Descendants of ________ Carpenter b. abt 1747/1751 of SC d. abt 1782 GA - Progenitor of Group 16 of the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project.
Notes
167.
James Henry "Bud" Carpenter
E-MAIL: See image: RIN 132758 James Henry Carpenter comparison pic.jpg
From: Donna Cuzze dcuzze@earthlink.net
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 8:06 PM
To: Terry Carpenter
Cc: John R Carpenter 2
Subject: PHOTO: Carpenters
Hi Terry,
Couldn't remember if I sent this to you already.
Wayne Carpenter (who matches my dad's dna) sent me a photo of his great grandpa JAMES HENRY CARPENTER b.1862 and family [who Wayne says is a son of Ezra Carpenter]. The larger photo is one taken in Clay County AL of Sally (Harlen) and James Warren Carpenter relatives.
If I were just looking at these photos and nothing else, I would swear it is the same family. Amazing isn't it!
BTW: I finally am getting my gen files back online at www.tourlv.net/genealogy.html
Donna Cuzze
BIRTH: May have been born in TN?
MARRIAGE: Both 3 Jan 1884 & 5 Jan 1884 given as marriage dates.
Mary Lenora Jones
NAME: Middle name either Lenora or Lee Nora.
Minnie Pearl Roberson
NAME: Unknown if Roberson or Petty is maiden name or previous married name.
169.
Rueben M. Carpenter
Rueben M. but previous submission indicated he went by M. J.
Walter L. Cook
AFN GSSH-X7 and AFN CCNC-CL appear to be the same person.
174.
Mary Rebecca Elizabeth "Mollie" Carpenter
NAME: She went by "Mollie Rebecca."
Marriage is listed in publication "Camp County Texas Marriages, 1874 - 1978",
page 129.
SEE: Daughter's notes.
E-MAIL: UPDATE
From: laura.pilgrim@att.net
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 8:00 AM
To: jrcrin001@cox.net
Subject: Carpenter
Hey John,
It has been years since we "talked" and you probably don't remember me. I'm Billy King Pilgrim and live in Houston.
You answered a query back in 1999 (if I remember correctly) about my great great grandmother, Mary Rebecca Elizabeth "Mollie" Carpenter. As I said back then, family legend has it that Mollie was a Native American of Cherokee ancestry. Mollie was the daughter of John Augusta Carpenter and Sarah Cope. She married Eugene Napoleon Mosely/Lewis who, even today, is a total mystery to me. What little I have been able to uncover about him is limited to a letter from the husband (deceased) of one of my maternal aunts (deceased) back in 1979. Official records are silent with regard to Eugene. According to the letter, Eugene murdered his brother-in-law in Floyd County, Georgia for raping and impregnating Eugene's baby sister. He went to the sheriff and told him what he had done. The sheriff gave him a horse and told him to leave Georgia and never come back so he, the sheriff wouldn't have to arrest him and bring him to trial. The story goes on to say that he rode to Alabama and caught a boat which brought him to Texas where he met and married Mollie.
The family legend said that Mollie was born in a Cherokee Indian village near the town of Gilmer in Upshur County, Texas. After years of research, I think I have been able to prove that Mollie was indeed not of Native American ancestry. She was born in 1866 on a farm 14 miles north of Gilmer on land that her father, John Augusta Carpenter, had purchased from Samuel T. Cope, Mollie's grandfather. I have a copy of the Deed of Sale for that purchase.
I have visited with the President of the Upshur County Genealogical/Historical Society and also the curator of the Upshur County Historical Museum and both have stated that there never was an Indian village in Upshur County. Although there is a cemetery near Gilmer named Cherokee Cemetery. I have walked that cemetery twice. It contains few graves and none of the markers have names that one would association with Native Americans.
Another fact that was related to me was that there were no Cherokees in Texas following the Battle of the Neches in 1838. They were defeated and forced to quit Texas to the Indian Territory (Oklahoma). Mollie was born in Upshur County 28 years after that battle.
Federal Census records have never shown Mollie and her parents as other than white. It is my belief that the family legend began out of context due to Mollie's mother having been born in Indian Creek, Alabama. Nor were she and her parents ever enumerated in any Native American tribal censuses.
I have a picture of Eugene and Mollie that was taken before their deaths in the 1930s in Camp County, Texas. My uncle said that Mollie just looked like an Indian, that she had black hair and dark skin. I think the family legend had a lot to do with that.
I found the Carpenter website yesterday and am looking forward to studying more about my Carpenter ancestry.
Billy
Eugene Napolean Lewis
There is an interesting story behind Eugene Napoleon Lewis which I will
bore you with. It is contained in a letter that I received in 1978 from
my father's oldest sister's husband. Many of the facts in that letter
came from one of my g-aunts who lived in Pittsburg in 1978 but is now
deceased.
Eugene was born in Rome, Georgia. At that time his surname was Moseley.
He was living with his older sister, who was pregnant, and her husband.
They requested that Eugene's younger sister come and stay with them
until after the baby was born. The husband raped the younger sister and
impregnated her. Eugene went after his brother-in-law with a gun but
the brother-in-law ran when he learned he was being sought by Eugene.
Eugene sent him a note stating that if he ever came back, he (Eugene)
would kill him.
Sure enough, some time later, the brother-in-law slipped back home and
Eugene shot and killed him. Eugene then went to the Sheriff and
confessed what he had done. The Sheriff gave him a horse to ride and
told him to leave the state so that he wouldn't have to arrest him and
bring him to trial. It's said that the horses' shoes were put on
backward to make it look like its tracks were coming into town rather
than going out of town.
Eugene rode to Alabama, caught a boat on a river, and eventually landed
in Texas. As far as anyone knows, Eugene never returned to Georgia, and
after landing in Texas, he changed his name from Moseley to Lewis.
Eugene was a strong willed man who was liked by everyone who knew him.
In the late 1920's or early 1930's Eugene was approached by the Sheriff
of Camp County (TX) who had a wanted poster on Eugene. He confronted
Eugene and asked him if he was the man on the poster. Eugene replied
yes and asked what he, the Sheriff, was going to do about it. The
Sheriff replied that he was not going to do anything because Eugene had
lived a clean life and was a family man. The Sheriff said he was going
to tear up the poster and it would never be mentioned again, which it
apparently wasn't.
Several of my relatives have been to Georgia to research the Moseley
connection but have hit brick walls. They think they have located the
descendants of the Moseley family but the descendants will not volunteer
any information.
I don't know how much of this is fact or fiction but it makes for an
interesting story. This is the kind of stuff that makes genealogy so
much fun.
Billy King Lewis submitted the data on this descendancy line on 7
July 1999. Billy & Laura Pilgrim .
177.
John Reuben Carpenter
1860 - Beat 3, Erath, Texas, United States
1870 - Precinct 4, Fannin, Texas, United States
1880 - Precinct 4, Hill, Texas, United States
1890 -
1900 - Justice Precinct 2, Fisher, Texas
180.
Martha Adaline Carpenter
Adaline (Carpenter) Richardson 4
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=66e0d4a0-a0aa-4a09-a23e-06d460ccfcd5&tid=28695173&pid=216
img00075
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=4c3c18ea-4740-41ed-9760-4c719351028a&tid=28695173&pid=216
Adaline (Carpenter) Richardson 6
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=613fd2a3-12a9-4ad0-ab60-71f66ee6f824&tid=28695173&pid=216
img00076
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=170a9b1b-d850-4c66-8922-a87c3c3db5f7&tid=28695173&pid=216
George Hale Richardson
img00071
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=6cd151a2-a5aa-475a-82e6-209e25edca9a&tid=28695173&pid=396
435.
Sarah Isbel Richardson
Frank & Sarah Wedding
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=1d06dada-1d5c-457c-aa1a-9be90a92549d&tid=28695173&pid=709
437.
Bertie Richardson
img00050
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=67cc7260-6ebc-4e0a-9fda-d5691ba165c3&tid=28695173&pid=708
439.
Florence Richardson
1930 - Residence - Loraine, Mitchell, Texas
181.
James S. Carpenter
1900 - Residence - Justice Precinct 4 (East Half), Erath, Texas
James Samuel Carpenter
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=45bec20c-9851-456a-9d4a-0a3c447402e8&tid=28695173&pid=215
James Samuel Carpenter tombstone
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=d061b903-4eb7-413d-a75e-0cba15f89247&tid=28695173&pid=215
Rebecca Susanna McKnight
Rebecca McKnight Carpenter
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=367d2bb2-abed-4841-84fe-a2e79a5a31b4&tid=28695173&pid=510
Joseph Madison Suggs
Rock Island Railroad--Arkansas
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=e6423ba6-d26f-4cf1-ac73-344c8a586f20&tid=28695173&pid=599
Suggs Brothers
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=82b0008a-7688-44fa-86ef-737080a80ed0&tid=28695173&pid=599
Joseph Madison Suggs
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=dbe2823f-cffb-405b-b5f9-a17f6e307fc2&tid=28695173&pid=599
455.
Thelbert Kalvin "Tk" Suggs
Sons of Mary Alethea SmithSuggs
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=99a91f5d-b163-48f0-9099-e5ed6ce8bd3c&tid=28695173&pid=690
Thelbert K. Suggs
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=ef4f3f62-c6d1-4d32-b3b0-01f0b5b41899&tid=28695173&pid=690
456.
William Taylor Suggs
Sons of Mary Alethea SmithSuggs
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=712aa77d-4119-434b-a147-e8087f39455d&tid=28695173&pid=689
187.
William Whitifield Carpenter
CENSUS: 1900 US Census
Name: William W Carpenter
Titles & Terms:
Event: Census
Event Date: 1900
Event Place: ED 56 Justice Precinct 3, Limestone, Texas, United States
Birth Date: Aug 1866
Birthplace: Texas
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Father's Birthplace: Mississippi
Mother's Birthplace: Mississippi
Race or Color (Standardized): White
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 13
Estimated Marriage Year: 1887
Mother How Many Children:
Number Living Children:
Immigration Year:
Page: 25
Sheet Letter: B
Family Number: 462
Reference Number: 65
Film Number: 1241655
Digital Folder Number: 004118530
Image Number: 00130
Collection: United States Census, 1900
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head William W Carpenter M 34 Texas
Wife Icy Carpenter F 35 Texas
Son Kirby Carpenter M 19 Texas
Son Bedford Carpenter M 5 Texas
Father George W Carpenter M 55 Mississippi
Source Citation
"United States Census, 1900," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M3PD-T1J : accessed 31 Aug 2012), George W Carpenter in household of William W Carpenter, ED 56 Justice Precinct 3, Limestone, Texas, United States; citing sheet 25B, family 462, NARA microfilm publication T623, FHL microfilm 1241655.
Isie Permelia McKenzie
1930 - Sudan, Lamb, Texas
188.
James "Jim" Carpenter
CENSUS: 1900 US Census
Name: Jim Carpenter
Titles & Terms:
Event: Census
Event Date: 1900
Event Place: ED 64 Justice Precinct 8, Limestone, Texas, United States
Birth Date: Mar 1872
Birthplace: Mississippi
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Father's Birthplace: Mississippi
Mother's Birthplace: Mississippi
Race or Color (Standardized): White
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 5
Estimated Marriage Year: 1895
Mother How Many Children:
Number Living Children:
Immigration Year:
Page: 10
Sheet Letter: B
Family Number: 142
Reference Number: 63
Film Number: 1241655
Digital Folder Number: 004118530
Image Number: 00450
Collection: United States Census, 1900
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Jim Carpenter M 28 Mississippi
Wife Lenar G Carpenter F 21 Texas
Daughter Allace Carpenter F 3 Texas
Daughter Dasy Carpenter F 1 Texas
Source Citation
"United States Census, 1900," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M3PD-59W : accessed 31 Aug 2012), Jim Carpenter, ED 64 Justice Precinct 8, Limestone, Texas, United States; citing sheet 10B, family 142, NARA microfilm publication T623, FHL microfilm 1241655.
Lenar G.
Per 1900 US Census - 5 years married with 2 children born and 2 living. Parents both from Arkanas.