Descendants of Group 5 Zimmermans / Carpenters

Notes


77. Christian Zimmerman

PARENT:
If the Group 5 family tree is correct, and if Dick Zimmerman's furtherst proven ancestor is indeed a son of Christian (as Larry's definitely is), then Christian Zimmermann of Denzlingen can only be a son of Peter b. 1668 (or of an unknown brother of Peter who just happened to have an identical mutation from 15 to 16 in the sixth position).   John Schmeeckle (11 Feb 2015)

ANCESTRY:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/804134/person/6058438159
Real basic data, no sources. Best guess on birth years.

LOCATION:
Richard Zimmerman proposes his ancestor Christian Zimmerman who died between 1765 and 1775 in , Denslingen, Baden, Germany.
Larry Zimmerman has his ancestor Christian Zimmermann (abt 1705 - abt 1771) in Denzlingen, Emmendingen, Baden-Württemberg, Germany.
Since all searches for Denslingen, Baden go to Denzlingen, Baden, I think it is the same place.

ARTICLE:
See: ARTICLE RIN 175876 Christian Zimmerman ZimGen2005.doc
DESCENDANTS OF CHRISTIAN ZIMMERMANN OF DENZLINGEN - a provisional genealogy by John Schmeeckle
Jan. 2003 - updated May 2005

REFERENCES: Some noted via email - no pacticular order.

John Schmeeckle for the January 2003, Mennonite Family History magazine, Volume XXII, Number 1. His article was titled: Needle in the Haystack - How I found the European Origin of my Zimmerman Ancestors is recorded on pages 22 through 31.
John Schmeeckle writes ... About 12 years ago I did extensive research on this family, following the trailblazing work of professional genealogist John Huppi. Huppi's work focused exclusively on the family in Europe. I did a lot of independent research in the vital records of Alsace and Baden, and I also established around 10 separate immigrant lines, coming to America in the mid-19th century and settling primarily in Illinois and points west.

John Schmeeckle adds:
Christian Zimmermann of Denzlingen (c. 1700-1706) What is known of his life and children (with much information on later generations in Europe) comes from John Huppi's research for Tom Lauber, which is online at

Thomas Lauber published a book, The Laubers, A Journey of Faith, in 2008 (ISBN0-9642077) in which most of the Zimmermann genealogy in Europe is detailed.
Richard adds ... Other names in my Zimmerman ancestry include Diller (Thueler), Hochstetler, Amstutz, Lauber, Schneider.  ...
I have the preliminary draft 5 of the Lauber book (European section) prepared by the Swiss genealogist, John Hueppi. Unfortunately, I have only a printed copy, but would be willing to make a copy (copies) (62 pages typed, single space, with 319 footnotes)

Larry Zimmerman, who last month published two articles on his Zimmerman ancestry in Mennonite Family History, January 2015, 34(1):4-9 and 10-11. Larry also published in 2014 Ancestral Traces: Zimmerman and Beer Family Journeys From Switzerland to America, Lulu Press, Raleigh, NC; ISBN:978-1-312-32724-5; 252 pages

Christian Rupp - (Rolf Brinkmann, Die Hochburg bei Emmendingen. 2007. Deutscher Kunstverlag GMBH Muenschen Berlin; ISBN 978-3-422-02098-6)

Richard Warren Davis, "Emigrants, Refugees and Prisoners - An Aid to Mennonite Family Research". He began his research in 1983 and published his book in 1995. (He met and worked with Robert Baecher in Alsace.) He later upgraded his book with various family reports. In his book, he covers both Peter Zimmermans, the Peter Zimmerman, b. 1668 is shown in his "Family B", and the Peter Zimmerman, b. c1640 is shown in his "Family D". The later one is the Peter who was married to Verena Stahli on 23 Mar 1666 and died in a freak accident in 1697 at Petite Liepvre, Alsace. In addition, he shows Hans Zimmerman, b. 7 Dec 1635 and Barbara Gilgan as the parents of Peter Zimmerman, b. 23 August 1668.

Robert Baecher, an independent scholar in France who has done groundbreaking research on Anabaptist history in Alsace and Switzerland. Finding and translating land and tax records in the Alsace and Bern. Robert Baecher also had an excellent article called “From Steffisburg to Ste. Marie-aux-Mines: The Exodus of Those Who Became Amish” in the January 2004 and April 2004 issues of Mennonite Family History. He had more information about Peter Zimmermann (b. abt. 1635) and his family in that article.
Robert Baecher wrote an article in 1996 for an edited book published by the Association française d'histoire anabaptiste-mennonite. His article, “The Patriarche of Sainte-Marie-aux-Mines,” was subsequently translated into English for the Mennonite Quarterly Review, January 2000.

Larry Zimmerman wrote ... My book, Ancestral Traces: Zimmerman and Beer Family Journeys From Switzerland to America (ISBN 9781312327245) is available through Lulu Press at lulu.com . I describe it as more than a genealogy because I tried to relate some of the social, political, economic, and religious events of the times in which the families lived, beginning in the 16th century and continuing to modern times. ...

Dick added info on ... "Mehr Zimmermans: Descendants of Johann Zimmermann and Anna Maria Schneider" is a spiral bound book compiled by John and Corrine Afton, May 1, 2002. Corrine was born in 1927 in Harper Co., Kansas. She served many years as a volunteer in the Genealogy Room at the Wichita Public Library. Unfortunately I do not have a mailing address for her and her e-mail address stopped working 5 or 6 years ago, which is when I lost touch with her. She and her husband published several other books including The Cemeteries of Butler County, Kansas. I think they lived in Benton, KS, for many years. The book was privately published and I don't know where you might locate a copy now.

EMAIL:
From: Larry Zimmerman
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 9:06 AM
To: John R Carpenter
Subject: Re: Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project - N136649 lineage update
John
I have good documentation to support the lineage all the way back to Christian Zimmermann (abt 1705 – abt 1771), my 5th great-grandfather. Professional genealogist John Hüppi was a premier researcher of Swiss Anabaptist family histories for many years and published a great deal in this area. His well-documented “Genealogical Outlines of Lauber and Zimmermann Families in Europe,” published in Thomas Lauber’s 2000 book, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, included this entry (p. 280):
Christian Zimmermann, [was] apparently born somewhere within the territories belonging to the Margrave of Baden-Durlach, Germany. From 11 November 1728 to 11 November 1738 he leased the properties in Sexau, Baden belonging to the Children of Martin Dölder . . . . Christian was later leaseholder of the Zehnthof in Denzlingen, Baden, from George’s day (23 April) 1739 until his death, sometime between 1765 and 1775. His wife’s given name is unknown, but her surname was probably Rupp. (end of quote)
Again, Hüppi provided citations from land records and other sources to support all the information he put forth in that paragraph.
Based on the dates given for the Sexau lease, I wrote in my history of the Zimmerman family that “if we assume that he [Christian] was at least 20 years of age when he leased the Sexau farm in 1828, then he was born no later than 1708 . . . However, it seems likely that Christian was a few years older when he leased the farm at Sexau, and I entered ‘About 1705’ as the date of his birth on the family tree.” Although Hüppi suggested that Christian might have been born in Baden-Durlach, I concluded that he was probably born in Upper Alsace, perhaps in the valley at Sainte-Marie-aux-Mines, which was the center of a sizeable Amish Mennonite presence until King Louis XIV ordered them out in 1712.
Given these dates, especially the year in which Christian began farming at Sexau, 1728, I think it doubtful that he was the Christian Zimmerman-154564 born 19 Aug 1710 in Sulzfeld, Baden. Moreover, I have found no evidence that my Zimmerman line went to the Karlsruhe region (Sulzfeld) after the dispersion out of Alsace. It appears they settled further south in Baden, in the Freiburg area. And there is no evidence I am aware of to suggest that the Christian in my lineage had a son Michael who immigrated in the 18th century to NC and KY.
Going back to Hüppi’s work, he found that Andreas Zimmermann (bef 1756 – 1793), my 4th g-grandfather as listed in the lineage, “followed his father, Christian, as leaseholder of the Zehnthof in Denzlingen, Baden, Germany, signing the new lease on behalf of his mother and himself in 1776. He later married Anna Maria Eissin. Andreas died in 1793."
I have solid documentary evidence to support the remainder of the lineage after Andreas: Michael, Daniel, Andrew, John, Walter, and Larry.
Thanks for the follow-up to my email. I am excited to be participating in the DNA project and look forward to getting the results of my 67-marker test. It looks like the kit has been sent from Houston, so I expect to get it in the next few days.
Regards
Larry Zimmerman


Larry Zimmerman Notes & References:
On Ancestry
 1. Larry Zimmerman, Ancestral Traces: Zimmerman and Beer Family Journeys From Switzerland to America, Lulu Publishing, Chapters 2 and 3, Larry L Zimmerman, San Diego, CA.A history of the author's Zimmerman and Beer family ancestors who originated in Switzerland and immigrated to America in the mid-19th century, eventually settling in Illinois. More than a genealogy, the book examines the forces that led families and individuals to come to the United States, and relates some of the social, political, economic, and religious events of the times in which the families lived, beginning in the 16th century and continuing to the present day.
 2. Robert Baecher, From Steffisburg to Ste. Marie-aux-Mines: The Exodus of Those Who Would Become Amish (Part I and Part II), Mennonite Family History, pp. 4-16 (in Part I) and 69-81 (in Part II), 2004, Larry L Zimmerman, San Diego, CA.Published in two parts by Mennonite Family History: Volume XXIII, Number 1, January 2004 (pp. 4-16); and Number 2, April 2004 (pp. 69-81). Originally published in French in 2002. Translated into English by Neil Ann Stuckey Levine.Robert Baecher, a French independent researcher, has conducted his studies using original source material from archives in Switzerland and France, and he has published numerous articles in Souvenance Anabaptiste/Mennonitisches Gedächtnis (SA/MG), the annual journal published each year by the Association Française d’Histoire Anabaptiste-Mennonite (AFAHM)."The village of Steffisburg [was] the place of origin of many families [including some of the Zimmermann name] who came to settle in Alsace. . . . Steffisburg emerged [during the course of the author's years of research] as a kind of reservoir that nourished the group that became the first followers of Jacob Ammann. . . . [The Amish] flowered at Ste. Marie-aux-Mines and then spread out further as a result of the forced breakup of the community of believers in 1712."This two-part article presents the results of Robert Baecher's research on Anabaptist families who fled Steffisburg, Switzerland in the last decade of the 17th century for Sainte-Marie-aux-Mines and nearby areas of Alsace, including several Zimmermann families that Baecher identified. The absence of birth and other vital records for Anabaptists in the Catholic parish registers of the Alsace communes--the only source of such vital records before the French Revolution brought the advent of civil records--makes it impossible to trace a direct line of Zimmerman ancestry to specific individuals of that name in the Alsace Amish congregations at Saint-Marie-aux-Mines and Colmar, and thereby link back to specific persons named Zimmermann who are known to have resided at Steffisburg.Nevertheless, my known Zimmerman family ancestors living in Baden and France during the 18th and early 19th centuries were Amish Mennonites, and there is substantial evidence linking them to the Alsace congregations and Steffisburg.
 3. Joseph Peter Staker, Amish Mennonites of Tazewell County, Illinois and Woodford County, Part One, Rŭpp to Ropp, p. 22; and The Stückers of Hilterfingen and Eriz, p. 80, 2013, World Wide Web.A three-part history of the Anabaptist origins in Europe and the immigration of numerous Amish Mennonite families to North America. Detailed genealogies of various families, including Zimmerman of Denzlingen (in Part Two). Well researched and documented. The entire text is available online at www.tcghs.org/links.htm A
full version of the work including document facsimiles, maps, and photos is available at the Tazewell County Genealogical & Historical Society in Pekin, Illinois, and the Mennonite Heritage Center in Metamora, Illinois. The text may be revised from time to time, and as a result, page numbers are subject to change. Consequently, citations to this source will be tied to sections as identified by their headings, which are less likely to change."[The Anabaptist congregation at Steffisburg] held a number of families that were later associated with [various families] of Central Illinois. Direct lines back to the congregation can be demonstrated for Brenneman (Brönniman of Oberdiessbach), Gingerich (Güngerich), Kaufman (Kaŭfmann), King (Küng and König), Oesch/Esch (Ösch of Oberlangenegg), Schweizer, Staker (Stüker of Hilterfingen and Eriz), and Yoder (Joder). They can also be assumed for Birkey (Bürcki), Farny (Farni), Gerber, Hodler (Hodel), Miller (Müller), Roth, Springer (Spring), and Zimmerman.In Steffisburg's Täufrödel 1557-1698, we found dozens of surnames that were later associated with Amish Mennonite families. [Staker provided dozens of surnames, including Zimmerman.] At least a third of these surnames, all found within a 12-mile area of the Swiss Oberland in the 1580s, were represented in Tazewell County [Illinois] three centuries later."Although nothing in this source serves to specifically identify my "Unknown Zimmerman" ancestor, but Joe Staker does establish that the Zimmerman family was included in the Anabaptist congregation at Steffisburg, and that the Zimmermans and numerous other families associated with that congregation eventually came to live in Central Illinois. In the case of the Zimmermans and several other families, it has not been possible to demonstrate a direct line back to the Swiss community, but as Staker declared, those direct lines can "be assumed "based on the totality of available evidence.
 4. Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirch Steffisburg (Bern), Kirchenbuch, 1528-1875 [Steffisburg], Stattsarchive Bern, Taufen, Heiraten, and Tote records, 1551 through 1699, LDS Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah, FHL Film 2005786, 2005787, and 2005964.My examination of the Steffisburg Kirchenbuch for the period 1551 (the earliest extant entries) through 1699 revealed 72 marriages in which either the bride or groom had the surname Zimmermann. There are scores of Zimmermann children in the Steffisburg baptismal records for the same 1551-1699 timeframe. And, of course, there are Zimmermann names in the death registers. Those statistics may not be an exact measure of Zimmermann births and marriages and deaths because the Anabaptists did not always comply with the registry requirements, but clearly the Zimmermann family was well represented in the Steffisburg parish. Several examples of specific individuals found in these church records are found in my book Ancestral Traces. As explained in detail in that book, it is not possible to trace a direct line back to any one of the Zimmermanns living at Steffisburg in the late 17th century, just prior to the exodus of the Anabaptist community to Alsace, France, but a connection between the Zimmermanns of Steffisburg and my known ancestors living in Baden in the 18th century is strongly implied by the evidence at hand.
 5. Larry Zimmerman, Ancestral Traces: Zimmerman and Beer Family Journeys From Switzerland to America, Chapters 2 and 3.
On Christian Zimmerman and his wife.
 12. Joseph Peter Staker, Amish Mennonites of Tazewell County, Illinois and Woodford County, Part Two, Zimmerman of Denzlingen, Michael Zimmerman, p. 122, 2013."Christian [Zimmermann] was born on French territory. He was a leaseholder at Sexau 1728-38, then took a lease at Denzlingen until his death."It is not certain that Christian Zimmerman was born in France, but it is highly likely that he was. See the Lauber source citation for a more complete explanation of that assertion.
 13. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Thomas R. Lauber, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008, Larry L Zimmerman, San Diego, CA, ISBN 0-9642077.A history of the Lauber and Zimmermann families. Appendix A, Genealogical Outlines of Lauber and Zimmermann Families in Europe, was written by John Huppi, a professional genealogist. Huppi provides detailed source citations for the information."Christian Zimmermann, apparently born somewhere within the territories belonging to the Margrave of Baden-Durlach, Germany. From 11 November 1728 to 11 November 1738 he leased the properties in Sexau, Baden, belonging to the children of Martin Dölder (Dölter), a deceased "arch-drunkard and curser." Christian was later the leaseholder of the Zehnhof in Denzlingen, Baden, from George's Day (23 April) 1739 until his death, sometime between 1765 and 1775. His wife's name is unknown, but her surname was probably Rupp."John Hüppi, the author of the source cited here did not explain his tentative conclusion that Christian was “apparently” born in Baden-Durlach, a conclusion that seems unlikely for the following reasons. Although nothing about Christian’s ancestry is known with certainty, his parents almost certainly lived in Alsace, and it is likely that Christian was born there. If we assume that he was at least 20 years of age when he leased the Sexau farm in 1728, then he was born no later than 1708, four years prior to the royal decree of King Louis XIV that prompted the dispersion of Anabaptists from Alsace. However, it seems more likely that Christian was a few years older than 20 when he leased the farm at Sexau, and I entered “About 1705” as his date of birth on the family tree. If that is correct, Christian of Sexau probably was the son of a Zimmermann family in the valley at Sainte Marie-aux-Mines. Given the absence of birth entries for Amish children in the French Catholic parish records, chances are remote that we will ever discover the names of Christian’s parents, his place of birth, or the exact date of his birth.
 14. Mark Häberlein and Michaela Schmolz-Häberlein, Eighteenth Century Anabaptists in the Margravate of Baden and Neighboring Territories, The Mennonite Quarterly Review, Section: Anabaptist Settlement and Economic Activity, 2001, World Wide Web.Volume LXXV, October 2001, Number FourElectronic version retrieved from http://www.goshen.edu/mqr/pastissues/oct01schmolz.html."In March 1739, Christian Zimmermann leased for nine years the so-called Widdumsgut in Denzlingen, a hereditary fief of the collegiate chapter of St. Margarethen in Waldkirch administered by the community. Zimmermann had to deliver 60 Malter (9000 liters) of rye -- 30 to the collegiate chapter, 20 to the margrave's Burgvogtei, and 10 to the community -- and pay 135 gulden (silver coins) annually. When Zimmermann renewed the contract for the Widdumsgut in June 1757, Jakob Rupp, Anabaptist tenant of the Steckenhof estate, gave surety for him. Zimmermann rented the estate until his death in 1771. His widow then took over the lease contract with her son Andreas, for whom the Anabaptists Christian Leutweiler of Schupfholz and Jakob Zimmermann of the Hochburg estate gave surety in 1774."
 15. Joseph Peter Staker, Amish Mennonites of Tazewell County, Illinois and Woodford County, Part Two, Zimmerman of Denzlingen, Michael Zimmerman, p. 122, 2013."Christian [Zimmermann] was born on French territory. He was a leaseholder at Sexau 1728-38, then took a lease at Denzlingen until his death."It is not certain that Christian Zimmerman was born in France, but it is highly likely that he was. See the Lauber source citation for a more complete explanation of that assertion.
 16. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Christian Zimmermann, apparently born somewhere within the territories belonging to the Margrave of Baden-Durlach, Germany. From 11 November 1728 to 11 November 1738 he leased the properties in Sexau, Baden, belonging to the children of Martin Dölder (Dölter), a deceased "arch-drunkard and curser." Christian was later the leaseholder of the Zehnhof in Denzlingen, Baden, from George's Day (23 April) 1739 until his death, sometime between 1765 and 1775. His wife's name is unknown, but her surname was probably Rupp."John Hüppi, the author of the source cited here did not explain his tentative conclusion that Christian was “apparently” born in Baden-Durlach, a conclusion that seems unlikely for the following reasons. Although nothing about Christian’s ancestry is known with certainty, his parents almost certainly lived in Alsace, and it is likely that Christian was born there. If we assume that he was at least 20 years of age when he leased the Sexau farm in 1728, then he was born no later than 1708, four years prior to the royal decree of King Louis XIV that prompted the dispersion of Anabaptists from Alsace. However, it seems more likely that Christian was a few years older than 20 when he leased the farm at Sexau, and I entered “About 1705” as his date of birth on the family tree. If that is correct, Christian of Sexau probably was the son of a Zimmermann family in the valley at Sainte Marie-aux-Mines. Given the absence of birth entries for Amish children in the French Catholic parish records, chances are remote that we will ever discover the names of Christian’s parents, his place of birth, or the exact date of his birth.
 17. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Christian Zimmermann, apparently born somewhere within the territories belonging to the Margrave of Baden-Durlach, Germany. From 11 November 1728 to 11 November 1738 he leased the properties in Sexau, Baden, belonging to the children of Martin Dölder (Dölter), a deceased "arch-drunkard and curser." Christian was later the leaseholder of the Zehnhof in Denzlingen, Baden, from George's Day (23 April) 1739 until his death,
sometime between 1765 and 1775. His wife's name is unknown, but her surname was probably Rupp."John Hüppi, the author of the source cited here did not explain his tentative conclusion that Christian was “apparently” born in Baden-Durlach, a conclusion that seems unlikely for the following reasons. Although nothing about Christian’s ancestry is known with certainty, his parents almost certainly lived in Alsace, and it is likely that Christian was born there. If we assume that he was at least 20 years of age when he leased the Sexau farm in 1728, then he was born no later than 1708, four years prior to the royal decree of King Louis XIV that prompted the dispersion of Anabaptists from Alsace. However, it seems more likely that Christian was a few years older than 20 when he leased the farm at Sexau, and I entered “About 1705” as his date of birth on the family tree. If that is correct, Christian of Sexau probably was the son of a Zimmermann family in the valley at Sainte Marie-aux-Mines. Given the absence of birth entries for Amish children in the French Catholic parish records, chances are remote that we will ever discover the names of Christian’s parents, his place of birth, or the exact date of his birth.
 18. Mark Häberlein and Michaela Schmolz-Häberlein, Eighteenth Century Anabaptists in the Margravate of Baden and Neighboring Territories, Section: Anabaptist Settlement and Economic Activity, 2001."In March 1739, Christian Zimmermann leased for nine years the so-called Widdumsgut in Denzlingen, a hereditary fief of the collegiate chapter of St. Margarethen in Waldkirch administered by the community. Zimmermann had to deliver 60 Malter (9000 liters) of rye -- 30 to the collegiate chapter, 20 to the margrave's Burgvogtei, and 10 to the community -- and pay 135 gulden (silver coins) annually. When Zimmermann renewed the contract for the Widdumsgut in June 1757, Jakob Rupp, Anabaptist tenant of the Steckenhof estate, gave surety for him. Zimmermann rented the estate until his death in 1771. His widow then took over the lease contract with her son Andreas, for whom the Anabaptists Christian Leutweiler of Schupfholz and Jakob Zimmermann of the Hochburg estate gave surety in 1774."
 19. Joseph Peter Staker, Amish Mennonites of Tazewell County, Illinois and Woodford County, Part Two, Zimmerman of Denzlingen, Michael Zimmerman, p. 122, 2013."Christian [Zimmermann] was born on French territory. He was a leaseholder at Sexau 1728-38, then took a lease at Denzlingen until his death."It is not certain that Christian Zimmerman was born in France, but it is highly likely that he was. See the Lauber source citation for a more complete explanation of that assertion.
 20. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Christian Zimmermann, apparently born somewhere within the territories belonging to the Margrave of Baden-Durlach, Germany. From 11 November 1728 to 11 November 1738 he leased the properties in Sexau, Baden, belonging to the children of Martin Dölder (Dölter), a deceased "arch-drunkard and curser." Christian was later the leaseholder of the Zehnhof in Denzlingen, Baden, from George's Day (23 April) 1739 until his death, sometime between 1765 and 1775. His wife's name is unknown, but her surname was probably Rupp."John Hüppi, the author of the source cited here did not explain his tentative conclusion that Christian was “apparently” born in Baden-Durlach, a conclusion that seems unlikely for the following reasons. Although nothing about Christian’s ancestry is known with certainty, his parents almost certainly lived in Alsace, and it is likely that Christian was born there. If we assume that he was at least 20 years of age when he leased the Sexau farm in 1728, then he was born no later than 1708, four years prior to the royal decree of King Louis XIV that prompted the dispersion of Anabaptists from Alsace. However, it seems more likely that Christian was a few years older than 20 when he leased the farm at Sexau, and I entered “About 1705” as his date of birth on the family tree. If that is correct, Christian of Sexau probably was the son of a Zimmermann family in
the valley at Sainte Marie-aux-Mines. Given the absence of birth entries for Amish children in the French Catholic parish records, chances are remote that we will ever discover the names of Christian’s parents, his place of birth, or the exact date of his birth.
 21. Mark Häberlein and Michaela Schmolz-Häberlein, Eighteenth Century Anabaptists in the Margravate of Baden and Neighboring Territories, Section: Anabaptist Settlement and Economic Activity, 2001."In March 1739, Christian Zimmermann leased for nine years the so-called Widdumsgut in Denzlingen, a hereditary fief of the collegiate chapter of St. Margarethen in Waldkirch administered by the community. Zimmermann had to deliver 60 Malter (9000 liters) of rye -- 30 to the collegiate chapter, 20 to the margrave's Burgvogtei, and 10 to the community -- and pay 135 gulden (silver coins) annually. When Zimmermann renewed the contract for the Widdumsgut in June 1757, Jakob Rupp, Anabaptist tenant of the Steckenhof estate, gave surety for him. Zimmermann rented the estate until his death in 1771. His widow then took over the lease contract with her son Andreas, for whom the Anabaptists Christian Leutweiler of Schupfholz and Jakob Zimmermann of the Hochburg estate gave surety in 1774."
 22. Joseph Peter Staker, Amish Mennonites of Tazewell County, Illinois and Woodford County, Part Two, Zimmerman of Denzlingen, Michael Zimmerman, p. 122, 2013."Christian [Zimmermann] was born on French territory. He was a leaseholder at Sexau 1728-38, then took a lease at Denzlingen until his death."It is not certain that Christian Zimmerman was born in France, but it is highly likely that he was. See the Lauber source citation for a more complete explanation of that assertion.
 23. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Christian Zimmermann, apparently born somewhere within the territories belonging to the Margrave of Baden-Durlach, Germany. From 11 November 1728 to 11 November 1738 he leased the properties in Sexau, Baden, belonging to the children of Martin Dölder (Dölter), a deceased "arch-drunkard and curser." Christian was later the leaseholder of the Zehnhof in Denzlingen, Baden, from George's Day (23 April) 1739 until his death, sometime between 1765 and 1775. His wife's name is unknown, but her surname was probably Rupp."John Hüppi, the author of the source cited here did not explain his tentative conclusion that Christian was “apparently” born in Baden-Durlach, a conclusion that seems unlikely for the following reasons. Although nothing about Christian’s ancestry is known with certainty, his parents almost certainly lived in Alsace, and it is likely that Christian was born there. If we assume that he was at least 20 years of age when he leased the Sexau farm in 1728, then he was born no later than 1708, four years prior to the royal decree of King Louis XIV that prompted the dispersion of Anabaptists from Alsace. However, it seems more likely that Christian was a few years older than 20 when he leased the farm at Sexau, and I entered “About 1705” as his date of birth on the family tree. If that is correct, Christian of Sexau probably was the son of a Zimmermann family in the valley at Sainte Marie-aux-Mines. Given the absence of birth entries for Amish children in the French Catholic parish records, chances are remote that we will ever discover the names of Christian’s parents, his place of birth, or the exact date of his birth.
 24. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."[Christian Zimmermann's] wife's name is unknown, but her surname was probably Rupp.Children of Christian Zimmermann [and his wife, the unknown Rupp]: Anna Maria Zimmermann, born about 1738 [first known child]  Jacob Zimmermann [a probable son], born 16 December 1735. [and several others, including Andreas, in period 1735 to about 1759]."
Based on the birthdates of her children, so far as they are known, Christian Zimmermann's wife, the unknown Rupp, may have been born about 1715.
 25. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."[Christian Zimmermann's] wife's name is unknown, but her surname was probably Rupp.Children of Christian Zimmermann [and his wife, the unknown Rupp]: Anna Maria Zimmermann, born about 1738 [first known child]  Jacob Zimmermann [a probable son], born 16 December 1735. [and several others, including Andreas, in period 1735 to about 1759]."Based on the birthdates of her children, so far as they are known, Christian Zimmermann's wife, the unknown Rupp, may have been born about 1715.
 26. Mark Häberlein and Michaela Schmolz-Häberlein, Eighteenth Century Anabaptists in the Margravate of Baden and Neighboring Territories, Anabaptist Settlement and Economic Activity, 2001."[Christian] Zimmermann rented the [Widdumsgut/Zehnthof] estate until his death in 1771. His widow then took over the lease contract with her son Andreas . . . After his mother's death in 1780, Andreas Zimmermann continued the lease on his own."


Rupp

NAME:
Probabbly Rupp.
Note: the first Amish leaseholder at the Hochburg (1713) was Christian Rupp - (Rolf Brinkmann, Die Hochburg bei Emmendingen. 2007. Deutscher Kunstverlag GMBH Muenschen Berlin; ISBN 978-3-422-02098-6).


131. Anna Maria Zimmerman

Died at age 17.

Larry Zimmerman Notes and sources:
 27. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Children of Christian Zimmermann [and his wife, the unknown Rupp]: Andreas Zimmermann, who followed his father as leaseholder of the Zenthof in Denzlingen. Anna Maria Zimmermann, born about 1738; died 21 October 1755 in Denzlingen at the age of seventeen. Michael Zimmermann, buried in Denzlingen 20 February 1741, as a small child. Heinrich Zimmermann, born about 1759; died 29 October 1761 in Denzlingen, at the age of two. Probable further sons of Christian Zimmermann: Johannes (Hans) Zimmermann, resident in Denzlingen, later a leaseholder in Niederemmendingen. Jacob Zimmermann, born 16 December 1735; grew up in Denzlingen. Michael Zimmerman, in 1778 living in Denzlingen (likely born after the death of [Michael buried in 1741]). Possible daughter of Christian Zimmermann: Barbara (Barbe) Zimmermann, born about 1752; died 26 November 1819 in Kingersheim, Haut-Rhin, France. She was married to Abraham Lauber. They resided in Denzlingen starting about 1793."
 28. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Children of Christian Zimmermann [and his wife, the unknown Rupp]: Andreas Zimmermann, who followed his father as leaseholder of the Zenthof in Denzlingen. Anna Maria Zimmermann, born about 1738; died 21 October 1755 in Denzlingen at the age of seventeen. Michael Zimmermann, buried in Denzlingen 20 February 1741, as a small child. Heinrich Zimmermann, born about 1759; died 29 October 1761 in Denzlingen, at the age of two. Probable further sons of Christian Zimmermann: Johannes (Hans) Zimmermann, resident in Denzlingen, later a leaseholder in Niederemmendingen. Jacob Zimmermann, born 16 December 1735; grew up in Denzlingen. Michael Zimmerman, in 1778 living in Denzlingen (likely born after the death of [Michael buried in 1741]). Possible daughter of Christian Zimmermann: Barbara (Barbe) Zimmermann, born about 1752; died 26 November 1819 in Kingersheim, Haut-Rhin, France. She was married to Abraham Lauber. They resided in Denzlingen starting about 1793."
 29. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Children of Christian Zimmermann [and his wife, the unknown Rupp]: Andreas Zimmermann, who followed his father as leaseholder of the Zenthof in Denzlingen. Anna Maria Zimmermann, born about 1738; died 21
October 1755 in Denzlingen at the age of seventeen. Michael Zimmermann, buried in Denzlingen 20 February 1741, as a small child. Heinrich Zimmermann, born about 1759; died 29 October 1761 in Denzlingen, at the age of two. Probable further sons of Christian Zimmermann: Johannes (Hans) Zimmermann, resident in Denzlingen, later a leaseholder in Niederemmendingen. Jacob Zimmermann, born 16 December 1735; grew up in Denzlingen. Michael Zimmerman, in 1778 living in Denzlingen (likely born after the death of [Michael buried in 1741]). Possible daughter of Christian Zimmermann: Barbara (Barbe) Zimmermann, born about 1752; died 26 November 1819 in Kingersheim, Haut-Rhin, France. She was married to Abraham Lauber. They resided in Denzlingen starting about 1793."


132. Michael Zimmerman

A small child when he died.

Larry Zimmerman notes and sources:
 45. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Children of Christian Zimmermann [and his wife, the unknown Rupp]: Andreas Zimmermann, who followed his father as leaseholder of the Zenthof in Denzlingen. Anna Maria Zimmermann, born about 1738; died 21 October 1755 in Denzlingen at the age of seventeen. Michael Zimmermann, buried in Denzlingen 20 February 1741, as a small child. Heinrich Zimmermann, born about 1759; died 29 October 1761 in Denzlingen, at the age of two. Probable further sons of Christian Zimmermann: Johannes (Hans) Zimmermann, resident in Denzlingen, later a leaseholder in Niederemmendingen. Jacob Zimmermann, born 16 December 1735; grew up in Denzlingen. Michael Zimmerman, in 1778 living in Denzlingen (likely born after the death of [Michael buried in 1741]). Possible daughter of Christian Zimmermann: Barbara (Barbe) Zimmermann, born about 1752; died 26 November 1819 in Kingersheim, Haut-Rhin, France. She was married to Abraham Lauber. They resided in Denzlingen starting about 1793."
 46. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey
of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Children of Christian Zimmermann [and his wife, the unknown Rupp]: Andreas Zimmermann, who followed his father as leaseholder of the Zenthof in Denzlingen. Anna Maria Zimmermann, born about 1738; died 21 October 1755 in Denzlingen at the age of seventeen. Michael Zimmermann, buried in Denzlingen 20 February 1741, as a small child. Heinrich Zimmermann, born about 1759; died 29 October 1761 in Denzlingen, at the age of two. Probable further sons of Christian Zimmermann: Johannes (Hans) Zimmermann, resident in Denzlingen, later a leaseholder in Niederemmendingen. Jacob Zimmermann, born 16 December 1735; grew up in Denzlingen. Michael Zimmerman, in 1778 living in Denzlingen (likely born after the death of [Michael buried in 1741]). Possible daughter of Christian Zimmermann: Barbara (Barbe) Zimmermann, born about 1752; died 26 November 1819 in Kingersheim, Haut-Rhin, France. She was married to Abraham Lauber. They resided in Denzlingen starting about 1793."
 47. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Children of Christian Zimmermann [and his wife, the unknown Rupp]: Andreas Zimmermann, who followed his father as leaseholder of the Zenthof in Denzlingen. Anna Maria Zimmermann, born about 1738; died 21 October 1755 in Denzlingen at the age of seventeen. Michael Zimmermann, buried in Denzlingen 20 February 1741, as a small child. Heinrich Zimmermann, born about 1759; died 29 October 1761 in Denzlingen, at the age of two. Probable further sons of Christian Zimmermann: Johannes (Hans) Zimmermann, resident in Denzlingen, later a leaseholder in Niederemmendingen. Jacob Zimmermann, born 16 December 1735; grew up in Denzlingen. Michael Zimmerman, in 1778 living in Denzlingen (likely born after the death of [Michael buried in 1741]). Possible daughter of Christian Zimmermann: Barbara (Barbe) Zimmermann, born about 1752; died 26 November 1819 in Kingersheim, Haut-Rhin, France. She was married to Abraham Lauber. They resided in Denzlingen starting about 1793."


136. Heinrich Zimmerman

Died young at age 2.

Larry Zimmerman Notes and sources:
 40. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Children of Christian Zimmermann [and his wife, the unknown Rupp]: Andreas Zimmermann, who followed his father as leaseholder of the Zenthof in Denzlingen. Anna Maria Zimmermann, born about 1738; died 21 October 1755 in Denzlingen at the age of seventeen. Michael Zimmermann, buried in Denzlingen 20 February 1741, as a small child. Heinrich Zimmermann, born about 1759; died 29 October 1761 in Denzlingen, at the age of two. Probable further sons of Christian Zimmermann: Johannes (Hans) Zimmermann, resident in Denzlingen, later a leaseholder in Niederemmendingen. Jacob Zimmermann, born 16 December 1735; grew up in Denzlingen. Michael Zimmerman, in 1778 living in Denzlingen (likely born after the death of [Michael buried in 1741]). Possible daughter of Christian Zimmermann: Barbara (Barbe) Zimmermann, born about 1752; died 26 November 1819 in Kingersheim, Haut-Rhin, France. She was married to Abraham Lauber. They resided in Denzlingen starting about 1793."
 41. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Children of Christian Zimmermann [and his wife, the unknown Rupp]: Andreas Zimmermann, who followed his father as leaseholder of the Zenthof in Denzlingen. Anna Maria Zimmermann, born about 1738; died 21 October 1755 in Denzlingen at the age of seventeen. Michael Zimmermann, buried in Denzlingen 20 February 1741, as a small child. Heinrich Zimmermann, born about 1759; died 29 October 1761 in Denzlingen, at the age of two. Probable further sons of Christian Zimmermann: Johannes (Hans) Zimmermann, resident in Denzlingen, later a leaseholder in Niederemmendingen. Jacob Zimmermann, born 16 December 1735; grew up in Denzlingen. Michael Zimmerman, in 1778 living in Denzlingen (likely born after the death of [Michael buried in 1741]). Possible daughter of Christian Zimmermann: Barbara (Barbe) Zimmermann, born about 1752; died 26 November 1819 in Kingersheim, Haut-Rhin, France. She was married to Abraham Lauber. They resided in Denzlingen starting about 1793."
 42. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Children of Christian Zimmermann [and his wife, the unknown Rupp]: Andreas Zimmermann, who followed his father as leaseholder of the Zenthof in Denzlingen. Anna Maria Zimmermann, born about 1738; died 21 October 1755 in Denzlingen at the age of seventeen. Michael Zimmermann, buried in Denzlingen 20 February 1741, as a small child. Heinrich Zimmermann, born about 1759; died 29 October 1761 in Denzlingen, at the age of two. Probable further sons of Christian Zimmermann: Johannes (Hans) Zimmermann, resident in Denzlingen, later a leaseholder in Niederemmendingen. Jacob Zimmermann, born 16 December 1735; grew up in Denzlingen. Michael Zimmerman, in 1778 living in Denzlingen (likely born after the death of [Michael buried in 1741]). Possible daughter of Christian Zimmermann: Barbara (Barbe) Zimmermann, born about 1752; died 26 November 1819 in Kingersheim, Haut-Rhin, France. She was married to Abraham Lauber. They resided in Denzlingen starting about 1793."


82. Hans Adam Zimmerman

NAME:  Hans is John in English. So Hans John is John John. I just use John.

He wrote his will on 9 January 1780 and it was proved 2 February 1786.the executors were Peter Zimmerman and Henry Martin. He was taxed at Earl Township in 1750. He was a Mennonite.

CHILDREN:  All children have Weber or was this one researcher just adding a  mother's maiden name for reference? Not a good idea. I went through and removed the Weber as a middle name for all the children. JRC 2014

BOOK:
Zimmerman, Ezra and Maria, compilers. A Branch of the Zimmerman OFF SPRING of Glause Zimmerman in Europe and His Children Who Came from Europe: Records of 12 Generations, Records of Births of over 325 Years, over 12,000 Families. Second Edition., Printed in 1988 by Gordonville, Penna. Print Shop 17529.
SEE: Page 3, Family No. 1 and continued on Family No. 2  Second Generation.
NOTE: This book propagates the error of using the wife's maiden name as the middle name for each child. This is wrong and without documentation. Where all initials are the same in the family, they should be ignored.
NOTE: The index uses family numbers and not page numbers.
No sources or documentation provided. This is a family listing by family numbers and with minimal location information. It shows DOB & DOD when known.


Anna Weber

Daughter of Henry Weber and Magdalena "Maudlin" Kendig.

NOTE:  If her mother's maiden name is Kendig, then the middle name should be removed. Without proof and it appears for ID purposes a researcher added mother's maiden names to the record.  Unfortunately, this has caused all sort of problems.


148. Esther Zimmerman

She was married to George Stauffer (1760-1832), A mENNONITE MINISTEROF eARL tOWNSHIP. THEY HAD NO ISSUE.


George Stauffer

George Stauffer was a Menn onite Minister of Earl Township. They hadno issue.


Peter Lantz

They moved to Virginia.


83. Christian Zimmerman

Christian was married to Barbara Stauffer, probably the sister of Mathias Stauffer of Earl Township, Lancaster Co., PA.  Her father was Christian Stauffer of Manheim, Germany who died at Salford Township, Montgomery Co., PA.

Christian was a Minnonite.