Descendants of Group 5 Zimmermans / Carpenters

Notes


5506. Bartow Craig Helton

BIRTH: Born Carpenter and legally and lawfully adopted. Helton on SSDI but descendants claim Hilton???

NAME: Nickname Barto?

E-MAIL:
From: Terry Carpenter
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 2:20 AM
To: John R. Carpenter 2
Cc: John Chandler
Subject: Re: ... - Group 5
Bartow Charles Carpenter is no. J8237 on p. 464 of the book Carpenters A'Plenty by Robert C. Carpenter, 14756. Robert's book notes only that Barto Carpenter "moved to Asheville NC."
John,  Here's an extract from the book following Robert's numbering system:  
John Carpenter, Anglicized from Hans Zimmermann, born c1702 in Canton of Berne, Switzerland, and died 10 Jun 1794 in NC [RCC:CAP].
#J. Jacob Carpenter, born 1734 in PA, died 3 May 1807 in NC, married c1759-1760 to Catherine Ramsour.
#J8. Jacob Carpenter, born c1778, died in Oct 1821, married on 27 Feb 1800 in Lincoln Co. NC to Katherine Quickel. #J82. Jonas Carpenter, born 10 Oct 1802, died 29 Apr 1869, married on 28 Aug 1824 in Lincoln Co. NC to Sarah 'Sally' Roberts.
#J823. Joshua P. Carpenter, born c1831, married on 10 Oct 1856 in Lincoln Co. NC to Barbara Catherine Beam. #J8237. Barto (Bartow) Carpenter, born c1869, "moved to Asheville NC" -- Bartow Charles "Barto" Carpenter-142784 (b. 23 Dec 1869, Catawba, NC - d. 25 Feb 1926 Asheville, Buncombe, NC), father of:
#J8237x. Bartow Craig Helton-142856 (b. 29 Aug 1892...  
Terry

CENSUS: 1900 US Census - with parents - parents married 1896.

CENSUS: 1910 US Census - with parents

CENSUS: 1920 US Census - with parents

MARRIAGE:  Same person???
Groom's Name: C B Hilton
Groom's Birth Date: 1891
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 29
Bride's Name: Hettie Jones
Bride's Birth Date: 1896
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 24
Marriage Date: 18 Dec 1920
Marriage Place:
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Unknown
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M75088-8
System Origin: Arkansas-EASy
Source Film Number: 1034257
Reference Number: 259
Collection: Arkansas, Marriages, 1837-1944
Source Citation
"Arkansas, Marriages, 1837-1944," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQB5-PJX : accessed 30 April 2012), C B Hilton (1920).

CENSUS: 1930 US Census - married with children
Name: Barton C Hilton
Event: Census
Event Date: 1930
Event Place: Newton, Catawba, North Carolina
Gender: Male
Age: 37
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Birthplace: North Carolina
Estimated Birth Year: 1893
Immigration Year:
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Father's Birthplace: North Carolina
Mother's Birthplace: North Carolina
Enumeration District Number: 0023
Family Number: 27
Sheet Number and Letter: 2A
Line Number: 13
NARA Publication: T626, roll 1680
Film Number: 2341414
Digital Folder Number: 4608275
Image Number: 00607
Collection: United States Census, 1930
Household Gender Age
Barton C Hilton M 37
Spouse Naomi Hilton F 34
Child Craig Hilton M 8
Child Joseph Hilton M 7
Child Josephine Hilton F 7
Child Edwin Hilton M 5
Source Citation
"United States Census, 1930," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3SW-62M : accessed 30 April 2012), Barton C Hilton (Newton, Catawba, North Carolina).

SSDI:
First Name: Bartow
Middle Name:
Last Name: Helton
Name Suffix:
Birth Date: 29 August 1892
Social Security Number: 244-07-6695
Place of Issuance: North Carolina
Last Residence: Conover, Catawba, North Carolina
Zip Code of Last Residence: 28613
Death Date: October 1975
Estimated Age at Death: 83
Collection: United States Social Security Death Index
Source Citation
"United States Social Security Death Index," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JY4R-866 : accessed 30 April 2012), Bartow Helton (1975).

E-MAIL: From: Nita
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 7:29 AM
To: John R. Carpenter
Subject: Re: Welcome to the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project - 218243 - 25/25 Group 5 match
Good morning, John!
Thank you so much for responding to me. Now, all I have to say is, "Help!" I began working on genealogy quite a few years ago;
and in the process, stumbled upon the fact that (Bartow Craig Hilton) my paternal grandfather's date of birth was three years before his parents were married. There are lots of details, but here is what I have:
Charles Franklin Hilton (B 1958 Newton NC - Living) My brother. Our father was
Charles Edwin Hilton (B 1924 Newton NC D 1975 Newton NC) His father was
Bartow Craig Hilton (B 1892 NC D 1975 NC). His father was ? --- Granddaddy was reared by Celia Elvinna Flowers and
Jacob Franklin Hilton. We always presumed them to be his biological parents, and we didn't know who Jacob's father
was and still don't. Bartow always told us he was the "only son of an only son," but Jacob had siblings. Bartow said
he had Indian blood and that could be true if Jacob was his father and Soloman Helton was his grandfather. He said his
grandfather's name was Henry, and that could be true if Laura Louisa Bolsch/Bolick was his biological mother. This is
the puzzle I am trying to solve through my brother's DNA.
Years ago, my great-grandmother Celia Elvinna Flowers Hilton (Jacob Franklin Hilton's wife) gave my aunt a 'piece of paper' that she thinks was Bartow's birth certificate. She is 92 years old now, and what she thinks she remembers is that Bartow's sir name on the birth certificate was Bartow Carpenter! She didn't want anyone to know Granddaddy was born out of wedlock so she hid the 'piece of paper,' which burned along with the house. I have continued to research Hilton/Helton but haven't been able to PROVE very much. Imagine our shock when my brother's DNA indicated we are descended from Carpenter's! Maybe my aunt's memory is better than I thought!
Here are some twists:
1. A woman in TX (Lela Davis) thinks Bartow Craig Hilton had a younger brother Franklin Helton. She even put a picture of Bartow on her Ancestry.com page. Is there any way to compare my brother's DNA with the TX Helton's DNA?
2. A genealogist, Carolyn Whitaker (whom I don't know), says Bartow Craig Hilton was the son of Laura Louisa Bolsch/Bolick and
Jacob Franklin Hilton. Here is a link to her page
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi? page=gr&GSln=helton&GSfn=laura&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=29&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=29945600&df=all&
So I am trying to find out whether my brother and I are Hilton's or Carpenters. Hopefully increasing the markers from 24 to 67 will tell us. Please pardon my ignorance, but I don't understand all the DNA terminology, i.e.,"Your Haplogroup is estimated to be I2B1."
Thank you so much for trying to help me.
Best regards,
Nita (Juanita) Hilton Gibson


Naomi Ervin

NAME: Nickname Jennie?


7826. Joseph Franklin Hilton

BIRTH:
Name: Joseph Franklin Helton
Event: Birth
Event Date: 06 Jul 1922
Event Place: Catawba, North Carolina
Other Birth Location:
Gender:
Race:
Father: Baits Craig Helton
Mother: Jennie Naomi Ervin
Page: 1028
Volume: 9
Collection: North Carolina, Birth Index, 1800-2000
Source Citation
"North Carolina, Birth Index, 1800-2000," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VHPF-KF1 : accessed 30 April 2012), Baits Craig Helton in entry for Joseph Franklin Helton (1922).


DEATH:
Name: Joseph Franklin Hilton
Titles & Terms:
Death Date:
Death Place:
Birth Year: 1922
Estimated Birth Year:
Burial Date: 20 Jul 1946
Burial Place: Newton, Catawba, N. C.
Cemetery:
Funeral Home:
Residence:
Street Address:
Gender: Male
Death Age: 24
Marital Status: Divorced
Race: White
Occupation: Printer
Birth Date: 06 Jul 1922
Birthplace: Catawba Co., N. C.
Father: Bartow Hilton
Father's Titles & Terms:
Father's Place of Birth: Catawba Co., N. C.
Mother: Naomi Ervin
Mother's Titles & Terms:
Mother's Place of Birth: Catawba Co., N. C.
Spouse: Doris Hewitt
Spouse's Titles & Terms:
Additional Relatives:
Informant:
Reference Number: v 16A cn 16025
Film Number: 1909211
Collection: North Carolina Deaths, 1931-1994
Source Citation
"North Carolina Deaths, 1931-1994," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPZG-5DL : accessed 30 April 2012), Bartow Hilton in entry for Joseph Franklin Hilton (1946).


5533. William Plato Carpenter Jr.

CENSUS: 1940 US Census
Name: William P Carpenter
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1940
Event Place: Ward 3, Mooresville, Coddle Creek Township, Iredell, North Carolina, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 37
Marital Status: Married
Race (Original): White
Race: White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: North Carolina
Birth Year (Estimated): 1903
Last Place of Residence: Same Place
District: 49-11
Family Number: 29
Sheet Number and Letter: 2B
Line Number: 48
Affiliate Publication Number: T627
Affiliate Film Number: 2930
Digital Folder Number: 005460313
Image Number: 00559
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head William P Carpenter M 37 North Carolina
Wife Ruth M Carpenter F 30 North Carolina
Daughter Nancy M Carpenter F 13 North Carolina
Son Robert Carpenter M 12 North Carolina
Daughter Mary R Carpenter F 9 North Carolina
Son Jimmie R Carpenter M 8 North Carolina
Son Gary C Carpenter M 7 North Carolina
Son Keith S Carpenter M 5 North Carolina
Daughter Silvia A Carpenter F 1 North Carolina
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1940," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KW7K-CXQ : accessed 12 Feb 2014), William P Carpenter, Ward 3, Mooresville, Coddle Creek Township, Iredell, North Carolina, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 49-11, sheet 2B, family 29, NARA digital publication of T627, roll 2930.

DEATH:
Name: William Plato Carpenter Jr.
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 04 Feb 1966
Event Place: Mooresville, Iredell, North Carolina
Birth Year: 1904
Birth Year (Estimated):
Burial Date: 06 Feb 1966
Burial Place: Rowan County, N. C.
Cemetery: Centenary Methodist Ch.
Funeral Home:
Residence Place: Mt. Uilla, Rowan, N. C.
Address: Route 1
Gender: Male
Age: 62
Marital Status: Married
Race (Original): White
Occupation: Salesman
Birth Date: 24 Jan 1904
Birthplace: Iredell
Father's Name: William Plato Carpenter
Father's Titles and Terms:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name: Nancy Melchor
Mother's Titles and Terms:
Mother's Birthplace:
Spouse's Name: Ruth Miller
Spouse's Titles and Terms:
Additional Relatives:
Informant's Name:
Reference ID: v 5A cn 5448
GS Film number: 1953697
Citing this Record:
"North Carolina, Deaths, 1931-1994," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FP9S-J9D : accessed 12 Feb 2014), William Plato Carpenter in entry for William Plato Carpenter Jr., 04 Feb 1966.


7864. Gary Cooper Carpenter

DEATH:
Name: Gary Cooper Carpenter
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Death
Event Date:                                      ------------------------------> No death date given! 1940 to 1994!
Event Place: Salisbury, Rowan, North Carolina
Birth Year: 1933
Birth Year (Estimated):
Burial Date:
Burial Place: Mt. Ulla, North Carolina 28125
Cemetery: Centenary Un. Methodist Church Cemetery
Funeral Home:
Residence Place: Mooresville, Iredell, North Carolina 28115
Address: Route 3, Box 62
Gender: Male
Age: 57
Marital Status: Divorced
Race (Original): White
Occupation: Carpenter
Birth Date: 15 Feb 1933
Birthplace: Mooresville, North Carolina
Father's Name: William Plato Carpenter
Father's Titles and Terms:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name: Ruth Miller
Mother's Titles and Terms:
Mother's Birthplace:
Spouse's Name:
Spouse's Titles and Terms:
Additional Relatives:
Informant's Name:
Reference ID: v 32B cn 32764
GS Film number: 1991673
Citing this Record:
"North Carolina, Deaths, 1931-1994," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG85-KY4 : accessed 12 Feb 2014), William Plato Carpenter in entry for Gary Cooper Carpenter, 23Jul1990.