Descendants of William Carpenter of Rehoboth, Plymouth Colony, now part of Bristol County, MA

Notes


15846. Charles Carpenter

He was in California for many years, now living in Yakima, Wash.

CENSUS:  1880 United States Census
Household:
Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
Charles CARPENTER   Self   M   Male   W   42   VERMONT   Farmer   VERMONT   VERMONT
Lena CARPENTER   Wife   M   Female   W   32   GERMANY   Keeping House   (GERMANY)   (GERMANY)
W. George CARPENTER   Son   S   Male   W   10   WASH TER   Goes To School   VERMONT   GERMANY
Chester CARPENTER   Son   S   Male   W   9   WASH TER      VT.   GERMANY
J. Emma CARPENTER   Dau   S   Female   W   6   WASH TER      VT   GERMANY
M. Lillie CARPENTER   Dau   S   Female   W   2   WASH TER      VT   GERMANY
J. Jason CARPENTER   Brother   M   Male   W   36   VERMONT   Farming   VERMONT   VERMONT
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Source Information:
 Census Place Atanum Valley, Yakima, Washington
 Family History Library Film   1255398
 NA Film Number   T9-1398
 Page Number   400C

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/scripts/data/database.cgi?file=Data&report=SingleArticle&ArticleID=0020457
Carpenter, Charles
Released 16 March 2004
History of the Pacific Northwest, Oregon and Washington, 1889

CHARLES CARPENTER. - Mr. Carpenter was born in Chattendon county, Vermont, February 1, 1838. He was the third son in a family of eight. Orrin and Jane (Basut) Carpenter were his parents. When thirteen years old he went with his parents to Franklin county, New York, and there received his education. In 1859 he came in company with his brothers J.W. and Henry, to California. They came via the Isthmus of Panama, and on the Pacific side took passage in the older steamer John L. Stevens for San Francisco. While in California Mr. Carpenter was engaged in various occupations, according to necessity or opportunity. Much of his time was spent in the schoolroom.

The year 1864 found him in British Columbia, spending the winter in Victoria. In the spring of 1865 he joined his brother George, who was overseeing the construction of a railroad to the Cariboo mines. Here he engaged in driving and teaming, making as much as fourteen hundred dollars per month. Upon the completion of the road he went into the mines, and occupied himself for a few months. He then decided to make a change in his work and proceeded to embark in the stock business. He accordingly went to Eastern Washington in 1868, and located on his present ranch of one hundred and sixty acres, four miles west of North Yakima. This continues to be his home, though he has another quarter section in the county. He has of late years engaged in hop-culture, in which he has been very successful.

Mr. Carpenter is a substantial farmer, and a good representative of the fertile and progressive country in which his influence has been felt. He was married in Portland to Miss Lena Webber, and has five children, George W., Chester, Emma J., Lillie M. and Edward J.


15849. Ezra J. Carpenter

Resided in Constableville, and Malone, N.Y.

CENSUS:
1880 United States Census
Household:
Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
Ezra CARPENTER   Self   M   Male   W   38   VT   Farmer   VT   VT
Columbia CARPENTER   Wife   M   Female   W   39   NY   Keeping House   NY   NY
Henry CARPENTER   Son   S   Male   W   13   NY   At School   VT   NY
Frederick CARPENTER   Son   S   Male   W   11   NY   At School   VT   NY
Frank CARPENTER   Son   S   Male   W   9   NY   At School   VT   NY
Addie CARPENTER   Dau   S   Female   W   7   NY   At School   VT   NY
Albert CARPENTER   Son   S   Male   W   5   NY   At School   VT   NY
Orin CARPENTER   Son   S   Male   W   3   NY      VT   NY
Caroline CARPENTER   Dau   S   Female   W   1   NY      VT   NY
Sarah MARTIN   Other   S   Female   W   22   NY   Servant   VT   NY
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Source Information:
 Census Place Constable, Franklin, New York
 Family History Library Film   1254833
 NA Film Number   T9-0833
 Page Number   538D


23662. Ada Blanche (Addie) Carpenter

CENSUS:   1880 United States Census  - from school
Household:
(Continued from Viola TREYLAND)
Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
Bertha MEEKER   Other   S   Female   W   6   VT      US   US
Pauline PINET   Other   S   Female   W   13   VT      QUE   QUE
Frank PRATT   Other   S   Male   W   6   VT   Attending School   VT   VT
Clinton PRATT   Other   S   Male   W   4   VT   Attending School   VT   VT
Harry W. SPEAR   Other   S   Male   W   7   VT   Attending School   VT   VT
Ann CONLON   Other   S   Female   W   13   VT   Attending School   IRE   US
Albert DREW   Other   S   Male   W   4   VT   Attending School   QUE   VT
Mary E SMITH   Other   S   Female   W   5   VT   Attending School   VT   VT
Archibald FORD   Other   S   Male   W   8   NH   Attending School   VT   VT
Charles E. FORD   Other   S   Male   W   10   MA   Attending School   VT   VT
Franklin HEATH   Other   S   Male   W   10   VT   Attending School   VT   VT
Charles SIPLES   Other   S   Male   W   6   VT   Attending School   VT   VT
Mabel R. WHEELER   Other   S   Female   W   11   VT   Attending School   VT   VT
Michael GARVEY   Other   S   Male   W   8   VT   Attending School   IRE   IRE
Martin GARVEY   Other   S   Male   W   4   VT   Attending School   IRE   IRE
Walter KELLY   Other   S   Male   W   7   VT   Attending School   IRE   VT
Charles PERVIER   Other   S   Male   W   9   VT   Attending School   US   US
Ada CARPENTER   Other   S   Female   W   4   VT   Attending School   US   US
Sarah LACKEY   Other   S   Female   W   12   VT   Attending School   US   US
James LACKEY   Other   S   Male   W   10   VT   Attending School   US   US
(Continued)
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Source Information:
 Census Place Burlington, Chittenden, Vermont
 Family History Library Film   1255343
 NA Film Number   T9-1343
 Page Number   23A


15853. Rosanna Carpenter

She had three children by Edgar.


William Lyon

Resided in Bristol, VT


15860. Chester W. Carpenter

Resided in Hineburg, Vt.1  MILI It is probably this Chester W. Carpenter who enlisted with the
three months' men in the last war, from Hineburg and served as 2d lieutenant in Company A, 7th regiment.
- 2  SOUR S203 3  TEXT pg 598


15863. John L. Carpenter

CENSUS:  1880 United States Census
Household:
Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
John L. CARPENTER   Self   M   Male   W   33   VT   Laborer   VT   VT
Martha A. CARPENTER   Wife   M   Female   W   29   VT   Keeping House   VT   VT
Elinor CARPENTER   Dau   S   Female   W   9   VT      VT   VT
Nellie B. CARPENTER   Dau   S   Female   W   7   VT      VT   VT
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Source Information:
 Census Place Huntington, Chittenden, Vermont
 Family History Library Film   1255343
 NA Film Number   T9-1343
 Page Number   244C


Martha A. Ross

They had two children.


15868. George Carpenter

BIRTH:
Vermont, Vital Records, 1760-1954
name: George Carpenter
event: Birth
event date: 07 Mar 1857
event place: , , Vermont, United States
gender: Male
age:
estimated birth year:
father: Calvin D Carpenter
mother: Alma
spouse:
spouse's father:
spouse's mother:
film number: 27501
digital folder number: 004542977
image number: 00099
Citing this Record
"Vermont, Vital Records, 1760-1954," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XFN1-3XR : accessed 24 Dec 2012), George Carpenter, 1857.

CENSUS: 1890 US Census - burned

CENSUS: 1892 New York State Census
New York, State Census, 1892
name: George Carpenter
event: Census
event date: 1892
event place: , North Elba, , 01, Essex, New York
age:
gender: Male
birthplace: U S
estimated birth year: 1856
alien or citizen:
film number: 0866323
digital folder number: 004640314
image number: 00164
Citing this Record
"New York, State Census, 1892," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3X7-QT7 : accessed 23 Dec 2012), George Carpenter, , North Elba, , 01, Essex, New York.

CENSUS: 1900 US Census - See image: RIN 146364 George Carpenter 1900.jpg
United States Census, 1900
name: George Carpenter
titles & terms:
event: Census
event date: 1900
event place: ED 2 Bridport town, Addison, Vermont, United States
birth date: Mar 1858
birthplace: Vermont
relationship to head of household: Head
father's birthplace: Canada
mother's birthplace: Canada
race or color (standardized): White
gender: Male
marital status: Married
years married: 21
estimated marriage year: 1879
mother how many children:
number living children:
immigration year:
page: 4
sheet letter: A
family number: 65
reference number: 12
film number: 1241689
digital folder number: 004120607
image number: 00029
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head George Carpenter M 42 Vermont
wife Ella Carpenter F 37 New York
son Georg H Carpenter M 17 Vermont
son Lenear Carpenter M 16 Vermont
son Wilford Carpenter M 11 Vermont
son Earnest Carpenter M 8 Vermont
son Eddie Carpenter M 5 Vermont
Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1900," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MMG5-1QW : accessed 24 Dec 2012), George Carpenter, ED 2 Bridport town, Addison, Vermont, United States; citing sheet 4A, family 65, NARA microfilm publication T623, FHL microfilm 1241689.


CENSUS: 1905 New York State Census
name: George Carpenter
residence: Moriah, Essex, New York
age: 46
estimated birth year: 1859
birthplace: United States
relationship to head of household: Head
race: W
gender:
family number:
page number: 3
line number: 1
film number: 0866324
digital folder number: 4518290
image number: 00155
Citing this Record
"New York, State Census, 1905," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/SP6Q-JDG : accessed 24 Dec 2012), George Carpenter, Moriah, Port Henry Village, E.D. 01, Essex, New York.

CENSUS: 1910 US Census
United States Census, 1910
name: George Carpenter
birthplace: Vermont
relationship to head of household: Self
residence: Port Henry Ward 1, Essex, New York
marital status: Married
race : White
gender: Male
immigration year:
father's birthplace: Vermont
mother's birthplace: Vermont
family number: 262
page number: 15
Household Gender Age Birthplace
self George Carpenter M 54y Vermont
wife Ella Carpenter F 39y New York
son Lemar Carpenter M 23y New York
son Welford Carpenter M 21y New York
son Ernest Carpenter M 18y New York
son Edward Carpenter M 15y New York
Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1910," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M5CX-WKM : accessed 23 Dec 2012), George Carpenter, Port Henry Ward 1, Essex, New York; citing sheet 15A, family 262, NARA microfilm publication T624, FHL microfilm 1374947.

CENSUS: 1920 US Census
United States Census, 1920
name: George Carpenter
residence: , Essex, New York
estimated birth year: 1869
age: 51
birthplace: Vermont
relationship to head of household: Self
gender: Male
race: White
marital status: Married
father's birthplace: Canada
mother's birthplace: Canada
film number: 1821111
digital folder number: 4313443
image number: 00906
sheet number: 8
Household Gender Age Birthplace
self George Carpenter M 51y Vermont
wife Ella Carpenter F 49y New York
son Edward Carpenter M 22y Vermont
Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1920," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MJLC-8B4 : accessed 23 Dec 2012), George Carpenter, , Essex, New York; citing enumeration district (ED) , sheet 8B, family 186, NARA microfilm publication T625, FHL microfilm 1821111.

CENSUS: 1930 US Census
United States Census, 1930
name: George Carpenter
event: Census
event date: 1930
event place: Port Henry, Essex, New York
gender: Male
age: 71
marital status: Widowed
race: White
birthplace: Vermont
estimated birth year: 1859
immigration year:
relationship to head of household: Head
father's birthplace: Vermont
mother's birthplace: Vermont
enumeration district number: 0014
family number: 239
sheet number and letter: 12A
line number: 28
nara publication: T626, roll 1437
film number: 2341172
digital folder number: 4661107
image number: 01004
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head George Carpenter M 71 Vermont
son Edward Carpenter M 33 Vermont
daughter-in-law Ethel Carpenter 12L> F 26 New York
boarder Blanche Maple F 20 New York
Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1930," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X7ZC-12K : accessed 24 Dec 2012), George Carpenter, Port Henry, Essex, New York; citing enumeration district (ED) 0014, sheet 12A, family 239, NARA microfilm publication T626, roll 1437.


Ella Douglas

In the 1900 US Census she was married for 21 years and had given birth to 5 children of which 5 are alive in 1900. Her father was from New York and her mother from Ireland.


15869. David Carpenter

CENSUS:  1900 US Census - See image: RIN 146364 George Carpenter 1900.jpg
On same page


Horttie E.

Per the 1900 US Census she had 6 children 4 living in 1900.  Parents born in VT NY


15872. Orvis Carpenter

CENSUS: 1870 US Census - with parents - See: RIN 69159 Calvin Carpenter 1870.jpg

CENSUS: 1880 US Census
Household:
Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
 Orvis V. CARPENTER   Self   M   Male   W   29   VT   Life & Fire Ins. Agent   VT   VT  
 Ida A. CARPENTER   Wife   M   Female   W   25   VT   Keeps House   VT   VT  
 Lelah M. CARPENTER   Dau   S   Female   W   4   VT      VT   VT  
 Alma E. CARPENTER   Dau   S   Female   W   2   VT      VT   VT  
 Alice GREENOUGH   Other   S   Female   W   18   VT   Domestic Servant   ---   ---  
 Charlotte ATKINS   Other   S   Female   W   24   VT   Millener   ENG   IRE  
Source Information:
 Census Place Bristol, Addison, Vermont
  Family History Library Film   1255340
  NA Film Number   T9-1340
  Page Number   25B

CENSUS: 1890 US Census - burned

CENSUS: 1900 US Census - See image: RIN 141745 Orvis Carpenter 1900.jpg
United States Census, 1900
Name: O Carpenter  
Titles & Terms:  
Residence: North Yakima City, Yakima, Washington  
Birth Date: Apr 1851  
Birthplace: Vermont  
Relationship to Head of Household: Self  
Spouse: Ida Carpenter  
Spouse's Titles & Terms:  
Spouse's Birthplace: Vermont  
Father:  
Father's Titles & Terms:  
Father's Birthplace: Vermont  
Mother:  
Mother's Titles & Terms:  
Mother's Birthplace: Vermont  
Race or Color (expanded): White  
Head-of-household Name: O Carpenter  
Gender: Male  
Marital Status: Married  
Years Married: 25  
Estimated Marriage Year: 1875  
Mother How Many Children:  
Number Living Children:  
Immigration Year:  
Enumeration District: 0121  
Page: 19  
Sheet Letter: A  
Family Number: 405  
Reference Number: 22  
Film Number: 1241754  
Image Number: 00434  
  Household Gender Age
   O Carpenter  M  
Spouse  Ida Carpenter  F  
Child  Allie Carpenter  F  
Child  Geo Carpenter  M  
Child  Earl Carpenter  M  
Child  Glenn Carpenter  M


Ida A. Morgan

CENSUS: 1900 US Census - Married 25 years and had 5 children of which 5 are alive in 1900.


23679. Lelah M. Carpenter

BIRTH:
Vermont, Vital Records, 1760-1954
Name: Carpenter  
Event: Birth  
Event Date: 29 Nov 1875  
Event Place: Vermont, United States  
Gender: Female  
Age:  
Estimated Birth Year:  
Father: Orvis Carpenter  
Mother: Ida Morgan  
Spouse:  
Spouse's Father:  
Spouse's Mother:  
Film Number: 540070  
Digital Folder Number: 4357174  
Image Number: 3139


23680. Alma E. "Allie" Carpenter

BIRTH:
Vermont, Vital Records, 1760-1954
Name: Carpenter  
Event: Birth  
Event Date: 13 Dec 1877  
Event Place: Vermont, United States  
Gender: Female  
Age:  
Estimated Birth Year:  
Father: Orvis Carpenter  
Mother: Ida Morgan  
Spouse:  
Spouse's Father:  
Spouse's Mother:  
Film Number: 540070  
Digital Folder Number: 4357174  
Image Number: 3131

DEATH:
Washington Death Certificates, 1907-1960
Name: Alma Overman  
Death Date: 22 Nov 1936  
Death Place: Seattle, King, Washington  
Gender: Female  
Race (Displayed on Form):  
Age at Death: About 57 years  
Estimated Birth Year: 1879  
Birth Date:  
Birth Place:  
Marital Status:  
Spouse's Name:  
Father's Name: O. V. Carpenter  
Father's Birth Place:  
Mother's Name: Ida Morgan  
Mother's Birth Place:  
Occupation:  
Street Address:  
Residence:  
Cemetery:  
Burial Place:  
Burial Date:  
Additional Relatives:  
Film Number: 2023361  
Digital GS Number: 4222399  
Image Number: 714  
Volume/Page/Certificate Number:


23681. George M. Carpenter

BIRTH:  May 1884 per the 1900 US Census and using death info below, 1 May 1884.
Vermont, Vital Records, 1760-1954
Name: George M. Carpenter  
Event: Birth  
Event Date: 01 May 1884  
Event Place: Vermont, United States  
Gender: Male  
Age:  
Estimated Birth Year:  
Father: Orvis V. Carpenter  
Mother: Ida Morgan  
Spouse:  
Spouse's Father:  
Spouse's Mother:  
Film Number: 540070  
Digital Folder Number: 4357174  
Image Number: 3845  

DEATH:
Washington Death Certificates, 1907-1960
Name: George M. Carpenter  
Death Date: 25 Sep 1943  
Death Place: Tacoma, Pierce, Washington  
Gender: Male  
Race (Displayed on Form):  
Age at Death: 59 years 4 months 24 days  
Estimated Birth Year: 1884  
Birth Date:  
Birth Place:  
Marital Status:  
Spouse's Name:  
Father's Name: Orvis Carpenter  
Father's Birth Place:  
Mother's Name: Ida Morgan  
Mother's Birth Place:  
Occupation:  
Street Address:  
Residence:  
Cemetery:  
Burial Place:  
Burial Date:  
Additional Relatives:  
Film Number: 2024169  
Digital GS Number: 4224849  
Image Number: 2023  
Volume/Page/Certificate Number: 1473


23682. Earl M. Carpenter

DEATH:
Washington Death Certificates, 1907-1960
Name: Earl M. Carpenter  
Death Date: 10 Jul 1914  
Death Place: Tacoma, Pierce, Washington  
Gender: Male  
Race (Displayed on Form):  
Age at Death: 23 years  
Estimated Birth Year: 1891  
Birth Date:  
Birth Place:  
Marital Status:  
Spouse's Name:  
Father's Name: O.V. Carpenter  
Father's Birth Place:  
Mother's Name: Ida Morgan  
Mother's Birth Place:  
Occupation:  
Street Address:  
Residence:  
Cemetery:  
Burial Place:  
Burial Date:  
Additional Relatives:  
Film Number: 1992321  
Digital GS Number: 4220932  
Image Number: 1328  
Volume/Page/Certificate Number: rn 550


15875. Clayton J. Carpenter

Resided in Hinesburg, VT

CENSUS: 1880 United States Census
Household:
Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
Clayton J. CARPENTER   Self   M   Male   W   25   VT   Butcher   VT   VT
Sarah M. CARPENTER   Wife   M   Female   W   24   VT   Keeping House   CAN   CAN
Guy V. CARPENTER   Son   S   Male   W   3   VT      CAN   CAN
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Source Information:
 Census Place Hinesburg, Chittenden, Vermont
 Family History Library Film   1255343
 NA Film Number   T9-1343
 Page Number   233B


Addie

NAME:  Addie was either married once before to a "Ward" or this was her maiden name.


George C. Oaks

Of Boston.


15888. John Carpenter

Really need 1790 to 1840 US Census to narrow down info.

From 1790 to 1810 there is one John or Jonah in 1810. From 1820 to 1840 the pattern is two Johns.
The 1830 makes sense because John Carpenter-20567 is listed as having his first child in 1830 and 3 children – 2 males and 1 female by 1840.
The 1820 John in Dover is puzzling unless he is single about age 17.

CENSUS: 1790 US Census  
name: John Carpenter
event place: Brattleboro, Windham, Vermont
page number: 106
line number: 9284
nara publication number: M637
nara roll number: 12
film number: 0568152
digital folder number: 004440914
image number: 00106

CENSUS: 1800 US Census  
name: John Carpenter
residence: Brattleboro, Windham, Vermont
page number: 503
nara publication number: M32
nara roll number: 52
film number: 218689
digital folder number: 004440858
image number: 00490


CENSUS: 1810 US Census  
No Johns in Windham listed, but ...
name: Jonah Carpenter - need to check to see if it is an abbreviation.
event place: Brattleboro, Windham, Vermont
page number: 239
line number: 2094
nara publication number: M252
nara roll number: 65
film number: 0218669
digital folder number: 004433254
image number: 00166
NOTE: 14 Carpenters listed as head of house in Windham, VT in the 1810 census.

CENSUS: 1820 US Census   
name: John Carpenter
event place: Brattleboro, Windham, Vermont
page number: 108
nara publication number: M33
nara roll number: 128
film number: 0281249
digital folder number: 004433259
image number: 00071

name: John Carpenter
event place: Dover, Windham, Vermont
page number: 181
nara publication number: M33
nara roll number: 128
film number: 0281249
digital folder number: 004433259
image number: 00107

CENSUS: 1830 US Census  
name: John Carpenter
event place: Guilford, Windham, Vermont
page number: 28
nara publication number: M19
nara roll number: 186
film number: 0027452
digital folder number: 004411342
image number: 00061

name: John Carpenter
event place: Guilford, Windham, Vermont
page number: 27
nara publication number: M19
nara roll number: 186
film number: 0027452
digital folder number: 004411342
image number: 00059

CENSUS: 1840 US Census  
name: John Carpenter
residence: Guilford, Windham, Vermont
page number: 45
nara publication number: M704
nara roll number: 547
film number: 0027442
digital folder number: 004410787
image number: 00095

name: John Carpenter
residence: Guilford, Windham, Vermont
page number: 44
nara publication number: M704
nara roll number: 547
film number: 0027442
digital folder number: 004410787
image number: 00093


******  Start of Notes ******

Number 8628 in the Carpenter Memorial on page 802.
Place of birth unknown.  He died when a young man.
NOTE: It is SPECULATION that this John Carpenter (son of John & Lucena (Thompson) Carpenter) who married Lois Grover.  But this is not proved.  See next.  See 1860 Census data below.
Per Pam White: Mother was "Anna" and father was "John Carpenter."

DEATH: 1 Oct 1880 but his wife is listed as a widow when she died on 17 Mar 1880.
If 1/10/1880 was used as death date and read wrong, then he died on 10 Jan 1880.  This is the reasonable explanation, but needs to be confirmed.

The following data supplied by Marque Carpenter on 29 Dec 2003.
Source: 1850 US Census Vermont, Windham County, Town of Guilford, Roll M432_929, John Carpenter living with wife Lois (age 42) and children.  His age is 46 thus being born Abt. 1803 in Madison, Vermont. Occupation: 1850, farmer.
John and Lois do not appear in the 1860 Census for Guilford.
MARRIAGE: . Marriage was found in Guilford Center town hall book "D" page 252
Married by J.P. Joseph Boydson to Lois Grover.
Record found in Town of Gulliford, Vermont BRD P.252

NOTE:  Vermont has a town called Madison Brook in Essex county.  This is near the NH border west of Route 3.

From: "Peter Blood"
To:
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:34 AM
Subject: [CARPENTER] John CARPENTER of Guilford, VT
I am researching the CARPENTER family of Guilford, VT. Can you answer the following questions on John CARPENTER's family? I will eventually want to prove this information using published sources and may ask you about yours.
a.. When was he born (about 1790 to 1805)?
b.. When did he die?
c.. Did he marry Lois GROVER January 09, 1827 in Guilford , Windham, VT?
d.. Was she born LOIS GROVER 13 Sep 1808 in Guilford, Windham , VT? Did she die . 17 Mar 1880 in Halifax ,Windham, VT? Was she the daughter of Elijah GROVER and Lydia GALLUP?
e.. Was there a daughter Lydia CARPENTER born to John CARPENTER and Lois GROVER 29 Jun 1853 in Guilford,Windham,VT? If so, her father John would have been in his 50s or 60s.
f.. Did daughter Lydia die in 1867 (age 14) or did she marry Daniel CARY in 1868, move to MA and die after 1920?
g.. Who were John CARPENTER's parents?
Peter Blood

CENSUS:  1860
From:
To:
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 8:48 PM
Subject: Draper Carpenter
In 1860 Census of Woodford, Bennington ,VT there is a Draper Carpenter 60 y/o male, with Olin Carpenter 58 y/o female ,Elijah Carpenter 30 y/o male, Draper Carpenter 16 y/o male, Jennette Carenter 2 other children 11 & 5 ? surname Lydia Draoper to young to be John Draper Carpenter formerly of Guilford VT.
John in NH
Reply ...
Hello John L.,
You wrote:
"In 1860 Census of Woodford, Bennington ,VT there is a Draper Carpenter 60 y/o male, with Olin Carpenter 58 y/o female ,Elijah Carpenter 30 y/o male, Draper Carpenter 16 y/o male, Jennette Carenter 2 other children 11 & 5 ? surname Lydia Draoper to young to be John Draper Carpenter formerly of Guilford VT.
John in NH.
The use of middle names seems fairly consistent in this family.
Olin appears to be the brother of John "Draper" Carpenter b. abt 1797/1804.  The 1860 census indicates age 60 which means born about 1800.
Lewis Elijah Carpenter b. 1830 is consistent with 1860 Census age 30 or born abt 1830.
John Draper Carpenter-24175 was born 12 Mar 1842/1844/1845 is consistent with the age 16 in the 1860 census this works out to be born abt 1844.
Mary Jeanett Carpenter-24173 was born in 1841 - you did not give the age from the 1860 census.  Age 18 or 19 would be consistent.
Lydia Lorne (Lydie) Carpenter-24992 was born about 4 Jul 1852 - you did not give age from the 1860 census.  Age 7 or 8 would be consistent.
Other children not mentioned except "other children 11 & 5?"  Nancy M. Carpenter-24176 was born in 1849 and would be about age 11 in 1860. The child age 5 or born about 1855 is missing.
All in all it is fairly consistent with this family.
Good find!
John R. Carpenter
La Mesa, CA
John L. Carpenter then sent ....
CENSUS: 1860 US Census.
Name Age in 1860 Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Race Home in 1860
(City,County,State) Gender
John Carpenter 60  1799 Vermont     Woodford, Bennington, Vermont Male
Olin Carpenter 58  1801 Vermont     Woodford, Bennington, Vermont Female
Eligah Carpenter 30  1829 Vermont     Woodford, Bennington, Vermont Male
Draper Carpenter 16  1843 Vermont     Woodford, Bennington, Vermont Male
Jennett Carpenter 18  1841 Vermont     Woodford, Bennington, Vermont Female
Sydia Lydia 11  1848 Vermont     Woodford, Bennington, Vermont Female
Charles Lydia 5  1854 Vermont     Woodford, Bennington, Vermont Male
Roll 653- 1316 page 1114
1860 census Woodford,Bennington,Vermont
Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: Woodford, Bennington, Vermont; Roll: M653_1316; Page: 1114; Image: 509; Family History Library Film: 805316.

Pam White < pamelacw@rochester.rr.com  > supplied ...
Notes for John Carpenter
more likely his father was John who died 2/1/1843
also see second listing as father John born 5/27/1790
1870 US Census Winhall, Bennington, VT (see below)
John age 67
Louis (Lois) S.  age 63
PAM ADDED THE FOLLOWING:
Notes for John Carpenter
more likely his father was John who died 2/1/1843
many possiblities who could be the father of John ca 1804

1850 US Census Guilford, Windham, VT - See image: RIN 20567 John Carpenter 1850.jpg
John's value of real estate owned $100
note: looks like children listed by middle names
John age 46 everyone in household born VT
Lois age 43
Asa K. age 16
Lois M.age 11
Mary J. age 9
Catherine age 7
John D. age 5
Nancy M.age 1

1860 US Census Woodford, Bennington, VT - See image: RIN 20567 John Carpenter 1860.jpg
AND RIN 20567 John Carpenter 1860b.jpg
John's value of acreage owed $200 property $
John age 60
Olive age 58
Elijah age 30
Draper age 16
Jenette age 18
Lydia age 11
Charles age 5 (possibly the grandchild)
why is wife listed as Olive?
there was a John and Olive in 1850 in Marshfield, VT with an Olive the right age but different age for her husband John - could my John and Lois be somewhere else and the children staying with relatives????

1870 US Census Winhall, Bennington, VT - See image: RIN 20567 John Carpenter 1870.jpg
Name: John Carpenter
Birth Year: abt 1803
Age in 1870: 67
Birthplace: Vermont
Home in 1870: Winhall, Bennington, Vermont
Race: White
Gender: Male
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members: Name Age
John Carpenter 67
Louis L Carpenter 63
Charles Newell 14
Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Winhall, Bennington, Vermont; Roll: M593_1615; Page: 592A; Image: 555; Family History Library Film: 553114.


EMAIL:
From: Peter Blood
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:27 AM
To: johnrcarpenter@cox.net
Subject: John CARPENTER 1803
John,
How have you been? Have you ever identified the parents of John CARPENTER of Vermont who married Lois GROVER?
I saw a military record for a John CARPENTER who reenlisted 17 Sep 1832 age 28 in Boston. he was born in Danville, Caledonia, VT.  That would be a 1804 birthyear. Do you know this guy?
I didn't even realize that there was a standing army in 1832. What was going on then?
Peter Blood
Urbana, MD

EMAIL: via Carpenter Digest, Vol 6, Issue 22
Name: John Carpenter ---------------------------------------- Birth: ca 1803/1804 Death: after 7/30/1870 and before Mar 17, 1880 Father: name unknown Carpenter Marriage: 7 Jan 1827 Guilford, VT by J.P. Joseph Boydson Town of Guilford, VT BRD P. 252 book "D" ---------------------------------------- Spouse: Lois (Louis) L. Grover ---------------------------------------- Birth: 13 Sep 1808 Guilford, Winham, VT per age 72y 6mo 4days at death Death: 17 Mar 1880 Halifax, Winham, VT per Halifax Town Records W Halifax Book 2 page 12 Father: Elijah Grover (~1780-~1845) Mother: Lydia Gallop (1771-1835) Children: ---------------------------------------- 1 M: Lewis Elijah Carpenter Birth: 1830 Leydon, MA Death: 1 Oct 1884 as stated on widow's application for accrued pension Spouse: Sarah A. Shepardson Spouse: Charlotte M. Wood Marriage: 2 Feb 1869 Manchester, VT attested by R. S. Cushman, Minister ---------------------------------------- 2 M: Henry Asa Carpenter Birth: 1836 VT - Winhall Town Clerk says birth with no year stated listed in her index book - no other details ---------------------------------------- 3 F: Lois M. Carpenter Birth: 1839 VT Spouse: Dunnican ---------------------------------------- 4 F: Mary Jeanette Carpenter Birth: 19 May 1841 VT Death: 3 Aug 1899 Marlboro, VT book4 pg3 died as a married woman age 58y 2mo 15d Spouse: Dunican Dunakin ---------------------------------------- 5 M: John Draper Carpenter Birth: 12 Mar 1842 Guilford, VT - death cert lists Halifax, VT Death: 22 Nov 1916 Bennington,Bennington, VT 3:30am veterans home age 74y 8m 10 d Spouse: Martha Ann Dunican Dunakin Marriage: 11 Jul 1865 Guilford, VT by Rev. Ethan Allen VT VR # P-1245 Spouse: Caroline (Carrie) Rosabelle (Rosevelt) Harvey Marriage: 11 Apr 1892 Hoosick, NY ---------------------------------------- 6 F: Catherine Janet Jenette Catherine Carpenter Birth: 25 Feb 1843 VT Death: 23 Sep 1911 Nelson, Tioga, PA at her daughter Mrs. William Chilson's home. Spouse: George Bracey Marriage: 26 Jun 1861 Searsburg, VT Spouse: Daniel Freeman Bump Marriage: 25 Dec 1863 Westfield, Tioga, PA ---------------------------------------- 7 F: Nancy M. Carpenter Birth: 1849 VT Death: bef 1860 ---------------------------------------- 8 F: Lydia Lorne Carpenter Birth: 4 Jun 1853 Guilford, Winham, VT Death: 2 Feb 1917 Colraine, Franklin, MA 64Y 6M 29D Primary lateral schlerosis of spinal cord Spouse: Daniel Carey Marriage: 22 Apr 1868 Guilford, Windham, VTaccording to one source the Vermont Vital Records Index to 1870 shows married 4/6/1868 Notes for John Carpenter DNA has not yet given us John b. ca 1804 parentage needed are more Carpenters to take DNA tests no proof of this but I have heard others mention a possible sister of John ca 1804 to be a Lydia 1830 US Census Guilford, Windham, VT John Carpenter (possibly says Junior) 20-30 son under 5 wife 20-30 1840 US Census Guilford, Windham, VT Carpenter, John b. between 1800-1810 lists 1 male <5 one male and 1 male 5 - 10 1 female <5 list no other female ?? where is Lois 1850 US Census Guilford, Windham, VT John's value of real estate owned $100 yet I found no record of him owning property in Guilford John age 46 everyone in household born VT Lois age 43 Asa K. age 16 Lois M.age 11 Mary J. age 9 Catherine age 7 John D. age 5 Nancy M.age 1 1860 US Census Woodford, Bennington, VT John's value of acreage owed $200 property $ John age 60 Olive age 58 Elijah age 30 Draper age 16 Jenette age 18 Lydia age 11 Charles age 5 (possibly the grandchild) why is wife listed as Olive? there was a John and Olive in 1850 in Marshfield, VT with an Olive the right age but different age for her husband John - could my John and Lois be somewhere else and the children staying with relatives???? 1870 US Census Winhall, Bennington, VT taken on 7/30/1870 John age 67 Louis (Lois) S. age 63 Charles Newell age 14 (again is this a grandson?) 1880 March 17, 1880 Lois' death records show her as a widow making John's death between 7/30/1870 and March 17, 1880. Notes for Lois (Louis) L. Grover I have a copy of a certified copy Lois' death record from Readsboro, VT. Although on 7/14/08 when I spoke with Annette the Readsboro Town Clerk she says that there is no record of her death there??? It states Lois Carpenter age 72y 6 mo 22 days a widow was born in Guilford and her father was Elijha Grover and her mother was Lydia. She died 3/17/1880 from "Engsifslos" (sp) in the town of Readsboro signed J. L. Harrington town clerk. U.S. Federal Census Mortality Schedules, 1850-1885 Name: Mrs Lois Carpenter Gender: Female Race: White Marital Status: Married Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808 Age: 72 Month of Death: Mar Cause of Death: Trainatic Erysipelas Census Year: 1880 Census Location: (City, County, State) Guilford, Windham, Vermont Enumeration District: 228 Line: 13 In the book by Joel Grover, "Ancestors and Descendants of Thomas Grover, there is mention of the marriage of Elisha Grover, son of Ebenezer Grover of Montague, Mass. to Louise Carpenter on 15 Oct. 1829. I HAVE NOT CHECKED THIS OUT YET Pam Carpenter White


Lois or Lousie S. Grover

Name of deceased: Lois Carpenter age 72 yrs 6 mos 4 days
birthplace: Guilford, Vt. father: Elisha Grover
mother: Lydia Gallup DOD Mar 17, 1880 POD Halifax, Vt.
BIRTH: This works out to be abt 13 Sep 1807.

NOTE:  something not right in data ....
E-MAIL:  From: Pam White  < pamelacw@rochester.rr.com >
To: John R. Carpenter
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: anyone ever seen this
When Lois Grover Carpenter died on 3/17/1880 she is listed as a widow so that means that John could not have died in Oct 1880 in Bennington.

Also it looks like Elijah (Lewis Elijah), Draper (John Draper), Jenett (Mary Jennett), Lydia, Charles (?? Lewis Elijah's son) are living with John and Olive Carpenter in 1860 and not with John and Lois.  My thoughts on this are the following possibilities:
1 - John and Lois or one of the children not in the 1860 census (Lois M., Catherine Janet, Nancy M.) are ill or in Nancy's case deceased and sent the children in the 1860 census to be with relatives.
2- I find it interesting that in 1860 census the children are in Woodford which is near Hoosick Falls as there always seems to be some connection to that area and the Carpenters and a connection has yet to be found.

Will keep searching for more answers and questions.
Pam


23690. Lois M. Carpenter

LOIS M. CARPENTER (Source: 1850 US Census Vermont, Windham County, Town of Guilford, Roll M432_929, living with parents age 11.), b. 1839 (Source: 1850 US Census Vermont, Windham County, Town of Guilford, Roll M432_929, age 11 in the 1850 census.).

Notes for LOIS M. CARPENTER:
# 8632-B in the Carpenter Memorial


23691. Mary Jeanett(e) Carpenter

MARY JEANETT CARPENTER (Source: 1850 US Census Vermont, Windham County, Town of Guilford, Roll M432_929, living with parents age 9.), b. 1841 (Source: 1850 US Census Vermont, Windham County, Town of Guilford, Roll M432_929, age 9 in 1850 census.); d. August 03, 1899, Marlboro, Windham County, Vermont; m. ? DUNICAN.

Notes for MARY JEANETT CARPENTER:
# 8632-C in the Carpenter Memorial


23693. Draper Carpenter

Is this the same person as John Draper?  Probably.


23695. Nancy M. Carpenter

NANCY M. CARPENTER (Source: 1850 US Census Vermont, Windham County, Town of Guilford, Roll M432_929, living with parents age 1.), b. 1849.


23697. Charles Carpenter

CHild per Pam White - pamelacw@rochester.rr.com