Descendants of William Carpenter of Rehoboth, Plymouth Colony, now part of Bristol County, MA

Notes


28473. Zenith Alvis Carpenter

Probably the son of William R. - see father's notes.


28482. Julia Elizabeth Davis

MARRIAGE: First United Methodist Church.


28492. Ethel Amelia Nash

Notes for ETHEL A.NASH: She left 5 young children upon her death ,the youngest was 1 month old. Most went to foster homes. (info source:) Marjore S. ( Nash) Dresden,103 Kendale St. , Bowling Green,Kty 42103-3430.


28504. William Thomas Carpenter

This descendancy line submitted by Debra Carpenter dcarpen253@aol.com in May
1999.


28507. Frank Coles Carpenter

This family line supplied by John L. Carpenter (born 1945) of NH. (11/96)
Frank was an accountant in Bellrose, LI, NY for Triboro Coach Bus Company ,Queens N.Y.


Violet Banister

U.S. Citizen.


33265. Beatrice "Betty" Carpenter

Notes for BEATRICE CARPENTER:
BIRTH: Birth year not known. Month and day ok.
Also Known as " Betty"
1930 US Census indicates she was 5 yrs old and probably born in 1925
Marriage Notes for BEATRICE CARPENTER and RICHARD DANA:
1 REFN 5028


28508. Leslie Wilbur Carpenter

This family line supplied by John L. Carpenter (born 1945) of NH. (11/96)


33269. Carole Christine Carpenter

This family line supplied by John L. Carpenter (born 1945) of NH. (11/96)


28511. Elizabeth Mae Hill

Not in the Carpenter Family in America book (1901).
Information supplied by Barbara Elizabeth Kardos (no date).
She married twice.  Her first husband died in World War two.
Residence: Elmont, LI, NY.


Arthur D. Schick

A musician before the war.  He was in the U.S. Army when he died.
He is listed as "Dutch".


28527. Pearl Florence Place

REF: 1910 census T-624-roll #678-Vol 91- ED #295-sheet #9A-page #219
dwelling #177-family #177-date of census May 10th, 1910
Census shows her father  born in CT, mother  born in NY

REF: Birth certificate shows date of birth as August 13, 1882, father Edwin
Place, (age at last birth day was 25), mother Emma Carpenter
(age 21), documents that Pearl was their first child.

She is buried in the Proctor family plot in Northview Cemetery, Dearborn, MI

Pearl, my grandmother, was from the Place family, who go back
to an American Indian grandmother (Eunice Josephine Long, and to
the John Aldin family who was one of the Mayflower founders.

She was born in Petoskey, MI, her father, Edwin Ona Place had worked as a
lumerman during the white pine era.  After the white pine had been cut over
her father moved into Petoskey and became a builder.  He was involved in
building subdivision type homes.  Some time after 1882 he moved his family
to CA.  This lasted only one year, they moved back to MI,
purchasing property in Greenfield Township  MI.  He tried to do some farming
however was not a very good farmer, but apparently had sufficent money from
his home building in Petoskey that he could live on what he had saved.


Harvey Peter Proctor

This family line submitted by John E. Proctor (brn 1933) of Stillwell KS 4/96

REF: 1910 census T-624-roll #678-vol 91-ED #295-sheet #9A-page #219.
dwelling #177-family #177-date of census May 10th, 1910.
Census shows that his father was born in MI mother born in France.

FARMS: lived on and worked by Harvey Peter Proctor from 1902 to 1944.
According to Stanley they usually moved by the first of April, this was due to
the fact that feed was running out by then and the spring planting season
was fast approching in that section of the country.  Additionally farms
usually were sold in the spring of the year, Harvey would move onto a farm that
someone wanted to sell, stay that summer, or longer, then for whatever reason
could't or wouldn't pay the asking price, and then if the owner had a buyer
they would have to move to a new place.
Pommischackle1903   This is the farm where Stanley was born.
Louis        1904
Padgett      1905
Lathers      1906   Livonia Twp.       Plymouth MI.
Truesdale    1908                      Plymouth MI.
Smith        1910                      Plymouth MI.
Miller       1911   west edge of       Plymouth MI.
Murray       1912   Washtenaw Co  half way between Plymouth and Ann Arbor
                   on a dirt trail, now called Curtus Rd.  by McCormick lake.
                   Harvey tried to purchased this farm, but apparently
                   couldn't pay the full price.  I have a contract showing
                   the price of this farm.  Harvey paid $1,000.00 down, and
                   was to pay $5,000.00 in April of 1912, but apparently he
                   didn't have the money, they rented for 4 more years.They had
                   an Ann Arbor mailing address, across road was Plymouth RFD
                   Harvey had an attack of appendicitis in 1914, recovered in
                   a few days.  Left Murray farm on April 1, 1916, moving to
                   the Bailey house, on Elm Street, in Trenton MI.
Bailey House 1916   Started a Watkins Liniment Route, this was at the prompting
                   of his father-in-law, Ed Place, that selling this line of
                   goods would be a good way to make a living.  He never did
                   have any sucess in this endevour. This only lasted 1 yr.
                   In Jan 0f 1917, Ira Wilson (Harveys wifes brother in law)
                   gave him a milk route, as they, the Wilsons, had a large
                   farm, and had a contract from the Detroit Creamery Co. to
                   haul milk to the creamery from the stations where the
                   farmers brought it in.  Harvey couldn't start on Jan. 1st
                   as he was still obligated to the Watkins line, so he hired
                   the hauling.  The first of April, 1917, he finished that
                   effort and started driving the milk truck himself.
Tents (June 1917)   Moved into tents, on Telegraph Road, one-half mile north of
                   Flat Rock, alongside the RR tracks.  It was a wooded area
                   and Telegraph was then a sand and dirt road.  They lived
                   there until September of 1917.  The reason they had to do
                   this was because he couldn't find a house to live in.  The
                   war was on and housing was so tight they couldn't get a
                   place to live.  (This related by Stanley)
Halls house  1917   Harvey moved the family into this house in September
                   It was on Huron River Drive, halfway between Flat Rock and
                   Rockwood.  He hauled milk and was doing well, until Jan. 1
                   of 1918, when a creamery opened up in Monroe, and they took
                   half of his load.  He kept going until April, in mid April
                   he had a bad attack of apendicitis he wouldn't go to the
                   hospital, even though the doctor told him he would die.  It
                   broke in a few days, and he was taken to the hospital.
                   Stanley had to drive the milk truck for a week, until
                   Harveys wife, Pearl, could make arrangments to have the
                   truck driven by a neighboring farmer.  Harvey was in the
                   hospital for three weeks, and returned home.  The First
                   World War was going on then and he went down to the Detroit
                   Ship Building Co, Wyandotte, and got a job as a watchman.
                   He was still not fully recovered, but could set down and
                   check the men in and out on this job. He did this for 3
                   months   (received .50 cents per hour), then got a job
                   maintaing and coaling the steam cranes and locomotives.
                   He worked from 11:00 PM until 7:00 AM and got paid .70
                   cents per hour, this was a top wage in the shipyard.  He
                   worked there until April of 1920.  He had moved to the
                   Knight farm in 1919, but didn't do any farming, as Stanley
                   was by then old enough to do most of the work necessary.
Knight        1919  George Knight farm two miles west of Trenton on West Road
VanSickle     1921  George VanSickle farm on 6 mi. rd. one mile east of Salem MI
                   It was on this farm that Stanley found many Indian
                   artifacts, in a field having a large maple tree, he found
                   many of them under this tree.
Mason         1925  Mason farm on Townline road which is now Joy Road, just
                   around the corner from the Murray farm that he had once
                   tried to purchase. On Jan. 1st of 1929, Stanley left this
                   farm and went to MI State Agricultural College to
                   enroll in the Short Course of Agriculture, which was a 2
                   year course in Agriculture.
Munn          1929  Hershel Munn farm on Six mile road one mile west of Salem.
Spaulding     1932  On the Chelsea Manchester Road, now M-52.
Lamming       1935  On Kemner road, north of Manchester
Occidental    1941  On M-50, one mile west of Tecumseh
HOME          1944  Final home, built a house just north of Manchester, on
                   corner of an 80 acre farm.  He never farmed it, was working
                   as a carpenter, and then was injured in an auto accident,
                   in 1947, and then quit work alltogether.  Subquently sold
                   the land, retaing a few acres along the road and a small
                   wooded area, approx. 14 acres.  This is now the site of
                   the Manchester Bank.

Harvey was killed in a single vehicle auto accident.  He went off the road in
a curve near Grass Lake and was killed.  The family did not want an atopsy, at
that time it was not manditory, so none was preformed.  There was disagreement
however as to why he died.  Some felt that another car, that didn't stop, ran
him off the road, others felt he had a heart attack, while others felt that he
may have been going too fast and couldn't take the curve.  No one knows!


33275. Vera Mae Proctor

Vera was born at Samuel Proctors (her grandfather) farm, he was then living on
Ford road, Plymouth, on March 26, 1907.  The Harvey Proctor family was then
living on the Truesdale farm.

My father, Stanley, never told me how Vera died, but I was told by Aunt
Florence that it was in child birth.
Her husband, Harold Carley, had wanted to take
her into the hospital but her father, my grandfather Harvey Proctor, exerted
enough control that he didn't do it.  She apparently died at birth in the
home. Grandpa Proctor, Harvey, blamed Harold for her death and appar-
ently some very harsh words were exchanged.  Harold left soon after the funeral
and was never heard from again according to Stanley and Aunt Florence. I never
heard any reference to Harold Carley aside from this information from Aunt
Florence, and no one talked very much about Aunt Vera.
Harvey, her father, had her maiden name (Proctor), placed on the tombstone and
wouldn't recognize her husband Harold.  Harold later moved back to Canada where
he was from, no one ever admitted they heard for him again although Aunt
Florence had his death date.
They were married May 1, 1929 in Salem, Washtenaw MI


Harold Carley

Harold Carley married Vera Mae Proctor on May 1, 1929, in Salem, MI
For all practical purposes no one admits ever hearing of Harold
after Veras death.  Aunt Florence seemed to have some knowldge about him.  It
would seem appropate that with Vera being Florences older sister, 3 or 4 years
apart, that they may have been close enough so that when she died, Florence
kept in touch with Harold Carley, but wouldn't admit it to anyone?  Who knows?
except Aunt Florence, see her notes for clues.


33284. Harvey Proctor Jr.

Born November 11, 1923, when family was living on the George VanSickle farm,
located on Six mile road, one mile east of Salem, Mi.

Harvey was called Junior
by everyone, and I can remember him as he was the youngest and would always
play with me and other cousins when we visited Grandma and Grandpa Proctor.
He drowned in the Manchester mill pond the week before he was to graduate from
high school, May 16, 1943.  He had been out in a boat with two other boys fool-
around in the water.  No one knew why, but the boat turned over and Jr. coundn't
swim well enough in the very cold water and he never made it the 30 or 40 yards
to shore.
He is buried in the Proctor and Place family plot in Northview Cemetary,
Dearborn MI.

This family line submitted by John E. Proctor (brn 1933) of Stillwell KS 4/96


28528. Flora May Place

Flora married George Maynard on April 16th, 1913 in Plymouth MI

In his memories Stanley Proctor relates that during the winters of 1925/26 &
1926/27 he and his girlfriend, Lucile Latson, went to visit Aunt Flora and
Uncle George.  Stanley was going to MAC at that time taking Agriculture Short
Courses.  They lived on a farm about six miles from East Lansing, on Grand
River Avenue.  "Aunt Flora loved to eat fish, but Uncle George wouldn't eat
them.  Occasionally Sunt Flora would invite Lucile and I over for a fish
dinner.  We always had a good time with them."