Descendants of William Carpenter of Rehoboth, Plymouth Colony, now part of Bristol County, MA

Notes


2380. Elisha Carpenter

Resided in Warren, RI and Norton, ,MA.


Hiram P. White

Resided in Hennepin, ,IL


Alba Howard

Resided in West Bridgewater, ,MA.


5600. Betsey Carpenter

Betsey was John's second wife.


5601. Elisha Carpenter

Died young.


2382. Peter Carpenter

He came to Warren when a young man;  for a short time he was
occupied in teaching school;  from that position he was chosen
cashier of the Warren bank;  he held the position for about 30
years, having the reputation of being remarkably faithful and
exact in all his dealings and accounts;  about this period he
was stricken with paralysis and was compelled to vacate his
position, upon doing which the directors presented him, on
account of faithful services, with a solid silver pitcher which
still remains an heirloom in the hands of the oldest direct
descendant, the Hon. Charles Sidney Smith, Esq., ex-Mayor of
Providence, RI  At the time of his death, and for a number of
years previous, he was deacon of the Baptist Church.
Inscription:
PRESENTED TO
PETER CARPENTER ESQUIRE
BY THE
PRESIDENT, DIRECTORS & COMPANY
OF THE
WARREN  - BANK
As a tribute of respect for his faithful services as Cashier of
said institution for 30 years
Warren, RI, October, 1835
This cup holds nearly two quarts, and is of pure silver;  it
cost nearly $100.  (It was shown the Compiler by the family in
1845 or 1846.2  SOUR S203
3  TEXT pg 215


John Day Capt.

He followed the sea for a number of years and became the captain
of the vessel;  he left the sea for the gold regions of
California in the early days fo the gold fever;  he soon became
the surveyor of NV county.2  SOUR S203
3  TEXT pg 367


2385. William Carpenter

Number 1513 in The CARPENTER MEMORIAL.  Page 216.
Family is number 499 on page 368.  A farmer.


5609. Hannah Carpenter

Number 3236 in The CARPENTER MEMORIAL.  Page 368.
No family listed.


5610. Polly Carpenter

Number 3237 in The CARPENTER MEMORIAL.  Page 368.
No family listed. She married and farmer and resided in Mansfield, MA.


5611. Lucinda Carpenter

Number 3238 in The CARPENTER MEMORIAL.  Page 368.
No family listed.


5612. Nancy Carpenter

Number 3243 in The CARPENTER MEMORIAL.  Page 368.
No family listed. She resided in Mansfield, MA.


5614. Lucy Carpenter

Number 3240 in The CARPENTER MEMORIAL.  Page 368.
No family listed.


2386. John Carpenter

Number 1514 in The CARPENTER MEMORIAL.  Page 216.
Family is number 500 on page 368.  A farmer.  He resided in Sutton, MA AND
Croydon, NH.  His wife Polly had a brother named Isaac Goward.

Resided in Sutton, ,MA. and Croydon, NH


Polly Goward

She had a brother Isaac.


Jonathan Record

Resided in Croydon, NH


H. Persons

Resided in Fletcher, VT


2388. Ebenezer Carpenter

Number 1516 in The CARPENTER MEMORIAL.  Page 216.
Family is number 501 on page 369.  A farmer who resided in Sutton, MA.


5621. Ebenezer Carpenter

Number 3248 in The CARPENTER MEMORIAL.  Page 369.
No family listed.


5622. Lucy Carpenter

Died age 3.


2390. Samuel Carpenter

Number 1518 in The CARPENTER MEMORIAL.  Page 216.
He married a Burt (some say Tiley or Tyley) and resided in Sutton, MA.  He was
a manufacturer.  No family listed.

NOTES: SAMUEL Carpenter, number 1518 in the Carpenter Memorial
was born about 1780 in Norton, MA.  He married Tiley Burt of Sutton, MA
on October 6, 1806 and they had 10 children. Samuel died October 1,
1826 in Northbridge and Tiley died October 27, 1828 in Northbridge.
Both are buried in Lackey Cemetery. The children were:
Betsey, born May 12, 1808 in Northbridge and died July 4, 1839 in Northbridge.
She never married and is also buried in Lackey Cemetery.
Jonathan Carpenter, born November 17, 1809 in Northbridge, MA. He married a
Candice Peirce on October 9, 1832 in Northbridge, and he
died August 15, 1837 in Northbridge. He is also buried in Lackey Cemetery.
Nancy Carpenter, born July 18, 1811 in Northbridge, and married Ira Darling
of Millbury, MA on May 4, 1836
William Carpenter, born October 30, 1813 in Northbridge, MA and is believed
to have gone West.
Sarah Fuller Carpenter, born July 7, 1815 in Northbridge, MA.
Abigail Carpenter, born January 14, 1817 in Northbridge.  Married David W.
Bennett on April 14, 1842 in Northbridge, MA.
Mariah White Carpenter, born October 16, 1818 in Northbridge, MA
Miranda Eliza Carpenter, born December 5, 1820.  Married Jonathan Southwick
on March 24, 1844
Lucretia Aurelia Carpenter, born January 18, 1823 in Northbridge, MA.
Married Daniel C. Wood on July 14, 1844.
Silena Abilene Carpenter, born January 12, 1825, died November 8, 1826 in
Northbridge. She is also buried in Lackey Cemetery.
Submitted on Tue, 19 Sep 2000 by "Barbara Gjeltema"


Tiley Burt

NAME: First name may be Tiley.


5623. Betsey Carpenter

She never married.


2392. Josiah Carpenter

Number 1520 in the Carpenter Memorial on page 216.
Family on page 369 (# 502). A farmer.


Chloe Elvia Carpenter

Number 1914 in the Carpenter Memorial on page 259.
Family on page 369 (# 502)

Max Roha's data: (See mother's notes for source references).
SECOND GENERATION
4.  Chloe Elvia Carpenter [43] was born on 16 Aug 1770 in Rehoboth (Bristol)
MA. [2,44]  She died in Rowe, Franklin,
MA.  She was listed in Carp-Mem under #1914. [45]
She was married to Josiah Carpenter (son of ) on 27 Jun 1793 in Attleboro
(Bristol) MA.  Josiah Carpenter was born on 27
Sep 1770 in Attleboro (Bristol) MA.  He died in Rowe, Franklin, MA.  He was a
Farmer..  He was listed in Carp-Mem under
1520. [46]  Chloe Elvia Carpenter and Josiah Carpenter had the following
children:
+36 i. Chloe Carpenter.


5634. Nancy Carpenter

Number 3250 in the Carpenter Memorial on page 369. No family listed.


5635. Hannah Carpenter

Number 3251 in the Carpenter Memorial on page 369. No family listed.
She married a Rice and had 2 children.  Names not listed.


5636. Emeline Carpenter

Number 3252 in the Carpenter Memorial on page 369. No family listed.
She married a Ammidon and had 2 children.  Names not listed.


5637. Mary Carpenter

Number 3253 in the Carpenter Memorial on page 369. No family listed.
She married a Lord and had 1 child.  Name not listed.


2393. Daniel Carpenter

Number 1521 in the Carpenter Memorial on page 216.
A veteran of the War of 1812. He moved to Ohio around 1830.
He and his wife settled in Seneca, Ontario, NY and raised several sons on their
farm.  They both died in Hinkley and were burided in Litchfield, Medina county,
Ohio.

DEATH:  Father and his son, Daniel, died the same day?  27 Mar 1839.  The will below indicates that this Daniel's death was between Feb. 1839 (addenda date) and May 27, 1839 (probate date). This fits with the death date given.

From: "Winifred Sihon"
To:
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 6:13 PM
Subject: Daniel Carpenter of Medina OH d. 1839
I just have studied this will and determined that it is not my line, but perhaps someone else would like the copies I have of the actual will.
WILL OF DANIEL CARPENTER
To his beloved wife Hannah $1500, plus house, household goods, horse & carriage.
To his son James H.  $1000 to be paid when he reaches 21.  Hannah to be guardian with expenses for his maintenance and education provided from interest on the account.  After debts are paid, the rest of his estate is to
be divided equally among his children:  Daniel, Nancy Southerland, George, Abdul B. and James H.
The executors are to be his sons Daniel and George.  Signed by Daniel Carpenter of Hopewell, Medina Co., OH July 13, 1833 and witnessed by John Price and John Spangle of Hopewell.
A later addendum gives to his son James by deed, half of the farm situated in Litchfield, Medina Co and specifies that the children of Nancy are to be given her share upon her death.    dated Feb. 1839
The will was filed for probate May 27, 1839 (FHL film 423849 v. B 1832-1842  p. 157-160.
The Estate disposition was made May 30, 1839 with an accounting of property and money owned and owed.  One mortgage was held from a William Kelly in Greece, Monroe Co., NY perhaps the place from which they had come. (FHL film  423850 v. C 1839-1848 p. 379-381.)

A book at Seattle Public Library:  Newspaper Abstracts Huron Co., Ohio 1822-1835 by Henry Timman, 1974
lists the marriage of Daniel Carpenter to Julia Washburn, Oct. 8, 1835.  in Fitchville.  I assume this is the Daniel Jr. listed in the will.


2395. Apollos Carpenter

A Farmer who Resided in Rowe, Mass.


5648. Morris Carpenter

Died when he was seven years of age.


Betsey Carpenter

Number 1919 in the CM.


2397. Cyril Carpenter

Number 1524 in the Carpenter Memorial on page 216.
Family on page 370 (# 504). Residence: Probably Harford, PA.  A Farmer.

DEATH: Same Death date as father?  This is either a strange occurrence or one is in error. At this time, the father's death date seems more accurate and research needs to determine the death date of the son - this person. Done - grave found see the following email.

E-MAIL:
From: Bill Carpenter
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 3:18 PM
To: 'John R. Carpenter 2'
Subject: RE: Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project - FTDNA N92763
John,
Just a quick follow up to the Cyril date of death (1854). We spent some time in the early to mid 1980s searching for lost and/or abandoned cemeteries in the Greenfield Township PA area looking for evidence of Carpenters and associated families. During one of these forays we discovered a small Carpenter family cemetery that was lost to overgrowth and in danger of sinking into swamp land that had been created by damming a bordering pond. We photographed and documented as many of the headstones as we could. One of the headstones belonged to Cyril (my Great x 4 Grandfather); others belonged to his wife and other family members. I have visited the cemetery occasionally over the years including as recently as last summer (I think I still have the bramble bush scars). The names and dates are still readable on the headstones. The inscription on the headstone reads “In memory of CYRIL CARPENTER, WHO DIED Oct. 19, 1854. AE. 88y'rs 1 mo. & 5 days. Now we feel that each is blessed inheriting their eternal rest.” I think the 1854 date of death for this Cyril is accurate.
Bill

Descendant updates from Bill Carpenter on 19 Mar 2011.
The following notes are from Bill.
GPS Location N 41 deg 30.371 min, W 075 deg 37.638 min, nearest address 144 Sickler Pond Rd, Jermyn, PA 18433
nearest intersection Hwy 107 & Hwy 247 Jermyn, PA

Ref.0: No. 1524
Ref.0,p216: Cyril was b. Sep 14, 1766, m. Mary Tyler Apr 15,
  1790; he d. 19 Oct 1854. Residence probably Harford, and Greenfield, PA
A farmer.
Ref.5,p221: Tyler was the son of Cyrus C. & Mary Tyler of
  Attleboro, Mass. who were brought when children to Susq.
  Co. Cyrus was b. Sep 14 1766 & d. Oct 19 1854 & was
  buried in Greenfield, Lackawanna, Co.
Ref.7: m. Mary Tyler 15 Apr 1790 in Attleboro
Ref.10,p23: Harford taxpayers 1807-Cyril C. 5 improved acres
Ref.10,p31: The second range of tracts embracing nos. 13,14,
  15,16 extended to the SE boundary of the Tiffany farm,
  and Cyril Carpenter farm (Ansel J. Stearns). This fact
  accounts for a double corner on the latter's farm.
Ref.10,p79: John Carpenter, previous to 1804, had disposed
  of lot 14 to Thomas Sweet and Cyril Carpenter, both
  brothers-in-law.
Ref.10,p103: In 1810, Cyril C. was living on Whitney's place
  In 1820, Cyril C. was the first miller; in 1830, Cyril C.
  was running a sawmill below Leslie's bridge.
Ref.10,p130: In 1840 the wheel pit of Cyril C.'s mill, near
  Leslie's bridge was being used for a pen in sheep washing
Ref.10,p455: Cyril C.-storekeeper in John C.'s account book.
Ref.11: Wife of 1761
Ref.11,p385: Mary Tyler m. 15 Apr 1790 Cyril Carpenter. He
  was b. Attleboro, MASS., 14 Sep 1766; d. 23 Nov 1811. He
  was a farmer in Harford, PA.; children b. in Harford list
Ref.11,p385: Children (w/more): Lucinda who m. David Avery,
  Mary Tyler who m. Edmund Worth, Achsah, Tyler (d. young),
  Tilghman, Lucy, Tyler who m. Mary Graham, Cyril, Dan, and
  Electa who m. Joseph H. Robinson.
Ref.12A,F: Picture- In memory of CYRIL CARPENTER, WHO DIED
  Oct.19,1854. AE. 88y'rs 1mo.& 5 days. Now we feel that
  each is blessed inheriting their eternal rest.
Ref.22,p264c: Julia A. C. was a grand dau of Cyril C. & Mary
  Tyler both of the earliest families who settled in Har-
  ford.
Ref.22,717: Mary Tyler was the wife of Cyril C. of Green-
  field, Lakawana Co.
Ref.27,p213: Cyril m. Mary Tyler and moved to Greenfield,
  Lackawanna, PA.
Ref.35,v1,p77: Cyril Carpenter of Harford, Pa.; b. Sep 14, 1766 at
  Attleboro, Mass.; d. Oct 19, 1854 at Greenfield twp., Pa.; m.
  Apr 15, 1790 at Attleboro, Mass. Mary Tyler; both are buried in the Carpenter Cemetery in Greenfield twp., Pa.  10 children listed.

1800 census of Nicholson TWP

1810 census of harford (p158): 3-1-0-1-0-1-0-1-1-0-0 which means 5 men: 3-10,3-10,3-10,10-16,26-45 and 3 women: <10,16-26,26-45.

1830 census, p.339:
Carpenter, Cyril: 1 male 20-30; 1 male 60-70; 1 female 20-30; 1 female 60-70.
Carpenter, Cyril Jr: 1 male 20-30; 2 females under 5; 1 female 20-30.
Carpenter, Joseph: 1 male 5-10; 2 males 10-15; 1 male 15-20; 1 male 40-50; 2 females 5-10; 2 females 30-40.
Carpenter, Tilghman: 1 male under 5; 1 male 10-15; 1 male 30-40; 1 female 5-10; 1 female 30-40.

Given that Mary is buried in Greenfield and that she died in 1834, it seems fairly safe to assume that Cyril and his family had moved to Greenfield prior to 1834.  He apparently bought land in 1808.  Was this when he purchased the Greenfield lot?

1850 Census Roll 793, Page 250

The Sickler's Pond Cemetery can be difficult to find. The easiest way to get there is as follows: 1) exit at the Tompkinsville Exit on Route 81, 2) when you exit the Tompkinsville Exit (exit 202 onto Route 107) you immediately go West, 3) Very shortly (maybe a half mile or less) you will turn right so that you are heading North going parallel to Route 81, 4) after going north about 1.5 miles you will hit an intersection. At this intersection will be the Worth Baptist Church, 5) at this intersection you go east, which will take you over Route 81, 6) shortly after you cross over Route 81 (maybe a quarter mile at most), you will see an old cemetery on the left of the road, 7) Shortly past this cemetery the road will take a dogleg type turn to the left.  In the middle of this turn you will be able to turn right onto two compacted dirt and gravel roads.  This doglegged paved road which intersects with two dirt roads sometimes appears as a normal four-way intersection on some maps.  You will also note that just prior to this "intersection", on the right side of the road is another Carpenter cemetery.  8) At this intersection, you will turn right, and then will immediately be faced with the two dirt roads, 9) you take the dirt road on the left. 10) after about a half mile you will go across a very small bridge.  If you stop on this bridge you will see Sickler's pond on your left, and a smaller pond on your right, which is the downstream side. 11) As soon as you cross the bridge, the Carpenter cemetery will be on your right, along the side of the pond, about 200 feet from the bridge.  The easiest way to get to the cemetery is to continue going until you reach the first developed property.  On this property there is a house trailer.  If you tresspass along the side of this property , you will be able to see a field stone wall in the right rear of the property.  If you go over the fieldstone wall and head toward the pond, you will almost certainly hit the cemetery.  If you choose to not trespass, be prepared for an almost impassable and hellacious trip either through very thick overgrowth, or along an extremely marshy swamp.

I found the following partial deed involving Cyril Carpenter:
Ezra Stundavand? and Milla his wife to Cyril Carpenter. This indenture made the twenty seventh day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand, eight hundred, and eight Between Ezra Sturdivant? and Milla his wife of the township of Harford County of Luzerne and State of Pennsylvania on the one part and Cyril Carpenter on the other part of the above mentioned town county & state yeomans whereas the said Ezra Stundavant is lawfully seizes.....


Mary Tyler

The following notes are from Bill.  See Cyril Carpenter (b. 1766 d. 1854) for info.

Ref.0: Wife of No. 1524
Ref.5,p221: Tyler was the son of Cyrus C. & Mary Tyler who
  were brought as children to Susq. Co. Mary Tyler was b.
  Nov 5, 1769, d. Apr 15,1790; buried in Greenfield, Lacka.
Ref.7,p176-191: Cyrel C. m. Mary Tyler Apr 15, 1790 in
  Attleboro, Mass.
Ref.11: No. 1761
Ref.11,p385: Mary Tyler b. Attleboro, Mass. 5 Nov 1769, d.
  13 Jul 1834, m. 15 Apr 1790 Cyril Carpenter.
Ref.12a,f: Picture - IN memory of MARY, wife of Cyril
  Carpenter, who died July 3, 1834 AE 67ys. 7mo. & 28ds.
Ref.22,p264c: Julia A. Carpenter was a grand-dau of Cyril
  Carpenter & Mary Tyler. Mary Tyler was a dau of Job Tyler
  a sister of dea Joab Tyler & grand-dau of John Tyler.
Ref.35,v1,p77: Cyril Carpenter m. Apr 15, 1790 at Attleboro, Mass.
  Mary, dau of John and Marcy (Thacher) Tyler, Jr. of Harford, Pa.;
  b. Nov 5, 1769, at Attleboro, Mass.; d. July 3, 1834 at Greenfield,
  Pa.; both are buried in the Carpenter Cemetery in Greenfield twp., Pa.
  10 children listed.


2398. Daniel or Dan Carpenter

Dan Carpenter of Massachusetts and Camden, South Carolina
Dan/6 Carpenter, born on 14 Jun 1768 at Attleboro, MA [ABC] died on
Saturday, 4 Oct 1806 at Camden, Kershaw Co. SC [K&K, SCH&GM].  He was a
descendant of the Rehoboth branch of the English Carpenters as follows:
Dan/6< Cyril/5< Josiah/4< Obadiah/3< William/2< William/1 Carpenter).
He was a merchant and a pioneer Methodist.  He married in 1789 to Lydia
Thornton, migrated to Camden, Kershaw Co. SC before 1793 [K&K, BHC1].
Dan/6 Carpenter was a brother of Timothy/6 Carpenter of Tennessee.
Seven children [SCH&GM]:
1. Samuel/7 Carpenter, born c1790 in NY; no further information.
2. Stephen/7 Carpenter, born c1797, died young.
3. James/7 Carpenter, born c1799 at Camden, Kershaw Co. SC, died young
in Camden SC.
4. Harriet/7 Carpenter, died young at Camden SC.
5. Lydia/7 Carpenter, born in 1801, married Archibald Smith, died on 10
May 1833.
6. Dan/7 Carpenter, born 1802, died 15 Sep 1831 at Camden SC [BHC1],
married in Richmond VA on 21 Oct 1826 to Caroline Frances Holmes, a
native of NY [BHC1].  Children:
       6a. Dan/8 Carpenter, who died without issue [K&K].
       6b. Anna Maria/8 Carpenter, born 1831, died in Jun 1835.
7. Elizabeth K./7 Carpenter, married Achilles Sneed Edgeworth in 1819
[EBW], died in 1855; he married her widowed sister-in-law Caroline
Frances (Holmes) Carpenter in 1856.
Sources:
ABC:  Amos Bugbee Carpenter:  A Genealogical History of the Rehoboth
Branch of the Carpenter Family in America (Amherst MA, 1898), p. 216.
AST:  Albert Sidney Thomas:  A Historical Account of the Protestant
Episcopal Church in South Carolina, 1820-1957 (Columbia, SC, 1957), p.
507.
BHC1:  Brent H. Holcomb:  Marriage and Death Notices from Camden South
Carolina Newspapers, 1816-1865 (Easley SC, 1978), pp. 34, 5l, 57, 64,
67.
BHC2:  Brent H. Holcomb:  Marriage and Death Notices from the Southern
Christian Advocate, Vol. I, 1837-1860 (Easley SC, 1979), pp. 188, 443,
517.
EBW:  Elizabeth Bondurant Warren (ed.):  Family Puzzlers, No. 726 (17
Sep 1981).
K&K:  Thomas J. Kirkland and Robert M. Kennedy:  Historic Camden, Part
Two, Nineteenth Century (Columbia SC, 1926), pp. 100, 101, 103, 286,
436.
SCH&GM:  The South Carolina Historical and Genealogical Magazine, Vol.
XXX, p. 124.
Family Data submitted by Terry Lee Carpenter of TX by E-Mail: on 16 July 1999.
< diluvius@flash.net >.

MISC: Refers to this Daniel or Dan Carpenter ****
----- Original Message -----
From: Terry Carpenter
To: Donna Cuzze ; John R. Carpenter 2 ; John L Carpenter
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: SC Archives for Carpenters

SC (South Carolina) was involved in trade with New England and several New England Carpenters established merchant or mariner outposts in the southern port cities.
The Oliver mentioned in the SC archives was a mariner, possibly ABC #208.
The Richard was a merchant from Rhode Island who traveled throughout the southeast -- you can read more about him in my article "Richard Carpenter, Pioneer Merchant of British West Florida and the Natchez District of Spanish West Florida," in the National Genealogical Society Quarterly, Vol. 72, No. 1 (March 1984), pp. 51-62.  He is ABC #621.
**** The Dan Carpenter in Camden SC is ABC #1525, pp. 216, 370.  (His brother Timothy #1527 was an itinerant Methodist preacher who settled in Tennessee.)  ****
Lucy (Blanding) Carpenter, widow of Phanuel Carpenter ABC #2028, also lived in Camden SC.  The Abiah Carpenter may be ABC #719, who is unaccounted for in ABC.  Margaret and husband George Carpenter lived near Abiah and were probably related, but again, not enough evidence to prove anything.  The later Carpenters in the piedmont counties were from PA, VA, and NC lines.  Lots of interesting possibilities in the South!

Terry


5662. Stephen Carpenter

Died young.


5663. James Carpenter

Died young.


5664. Harriet Carpenter

Died young.


Archibald Smith

Was his father Archibald Smith b. abt 1780?  Ot were there two Archibald Smiths in 1840 NC?

E-MAIL: From: "Bob & Judy Carpenter"
To:
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 11:17 AM
Subject: John T. Carpenter
> Hi John
> I'm trying to close out old info that has not been rully answered while
> looking for my GGF John T. Carpenter and was wondering if you might have any
> info on the following: Namely that A John Carpenter was listed in the Anson
> Co., NC census for 1850 living in the household of Archibald Smith, 68, M,
> Farmer.  It is recorded in the Dumas Shop Dist. on page 230.  Listed along
> with Mr. Smith whom I presume is the father of Sarah.  "John Carpenter is
> listed as age 27, M, Laborer, and born in NC; his wife Sarah, age 25, also
> born in NC; daughter Elizabeth age 5, Son William, age 3, and another son
> James, age 1".  Somewhere along the line I picked up a note that this same
> John Carpenter was in the 1860 census for Tenessee. However, I can't prove
> that at this point in time.  However, I can prove that my GGF John T.
> Carpenter was in Cache, Greene Co., Arkansas for the 1860 Census.
>
> My GGF was born in NC in 1823 and he also would have been 27 years old.
> Since he was 12 years older that Frances E. Richardson when they married in
> Chattooga County, Ga on 18 January 1855, there is a good chance that he was
> married previously.  So, I'm just going back now and trying to prove or
> disprove info in my notes.
> Thanks
>
> Bob Carpenter
> Lompoc, CA

REPLY:
You wrote:
"... A John Carpenter was listed in the Anson Co., NC census for 1850 living in the household of Archibald Smith, 68, M, Farmer.  It is recorded in the Dumas Shop Dist. on page 230.  Listed along with Mr. Smith whom I presume is the father of Sarah.  "John Carpenter is listed as age 27, M, Laborer, and born in NC; his wife Sarah, age 25, also born in NC; daughter Elizabeth age 5, Son William, age 3, and another son James, age 1". "
I can help with Archibald Smith.
Three male Carpenters (Lydia's brothers) are not listed with families.  One died young.
1. Samuel Carpenter,
2. Stephen Carpenter, born c1797, died young.
3. James Carpenter
If the John Carpenter b. 1823 (age 27 in the 1850 Census) was living with his grandfather Archibald Smith - this means one of his daughters married, probably, Samuel or James Carpenter.
Comments?
John R. Carpenter

MORE:
From: "Terry Carpenter"
To: "John R. Carpenter"
Cc: "Bob & Judy Carpenter"
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 2:58 AM
Subject: Re: John T. Carpenter
> John,
>
> Thanks for helping.  This John Carpenter living with
> Archibald Smith in 1850 was John L. Carpenter, and can be
> traced into TN, whereas Bob's John Carpenter went to AR
> then returned to GA.  They are two separate Johns.
>
> Bob and I corresponded a while back I believe.  I offered
> some suggestions for identifying the line, but apparently
> they didn't work out.
>
> Regards,
> Terry