Descendants of William Carpenter of Providence (Pawtuxet section, now in Cranston), Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, now part of Providence County, RI

Notes


232. Joseph Carpenter Jr.

WILL: Will dated 21 Jan. 1792, proved July 1792.  Wife listed as Leah.
Joseph Carpenter served in Captian Dickenson's company in part of the French
and Indian Wars, heir John, son of Thomas.
A Patriot, he served in Captain John Lewis's Company of Botetourt County,
Virginia Militia in 1774. Children with which mother is uncertain.
See: Virginia Frontier by Kegley, page 273.
CHILDREN: Did not have a Matthew but Marthew, a female!

BOOK: See page 36 #2 (for notes) of the Mowrey 1997 book. See book
information below:
UPDATE OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE NEW ENGLAND CARPENTER FAMILY OF ENGLISH ORIGIN - THE VIRGINIA / WEST VIRGINIA BRANCH - SOME DESCENDANTS OF JOSEPH CARPENTER - PIONEER OF THE JACKSON RIVER - MOWREY"S VERSION.
BY TERRY LEE CARPENTER AND PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
PRO BONO PUBLICO - PRIVATELY PUBLISHED, DOVER, OHIO, 1997.
BY PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.  See father's notes on this Joseph's trial and escape.


Leah

NAME: Last name Carpenter per AF.  Probably married name.
Not in the Carpenter Memorial (1898) and not in the Samuel Carpenter (1912)
book as a Carpenter.  Mowrey's 1997 book gives no last name.
Could her name have been Judith Leah Scott? OR was Judith Scott another wife?


654. Mary Carpenter

E-MAIL: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 From: Sue Bishop bishop5@ix.netcom.com .
Mary CARPENTER married Robert VIORS in Botetourt Co. Va, 1/7/1785..
They moved to Kentucky in 1800 and bought a farm in Mason/Lewis County
in 1802.  They had five sons, four daughters.  I am descended from their
son John.  Both of them are buried on the farm where they lived on Quicks
Run Road, in Lewis County, Ky.  The family name eventually mutated to
VOIERS.


Robert Viers

He served in the Botetourt Militia before they were married, then they moved
to Eastern Ky eventually with their children. Sue.


655. Sarah Carpenter

Her husband was a testator in John Carpenter's application for a Revolutionary
War pension in the 1830's.  No further information known on this family.


William Gillespie

Is this the same William Gillespie who was born in Rowan county, North Carolina
in 1759 and who married and had children?  Did his grandson by the same name
die in Macoupen, IL in 1883/84?
Married: Frances (Fanny) Pickens.  They had family 539 below and one child
married and had family 35 below.  This data off AOL.
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    HUSBAND James TRIMBLE-83
                           LDS ORDINANCE DATA

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    BORN:    4 Dec 1780          PLACE: Abbeville Dist.
                            B:
    CHR.:                        PLACE:
                            E:
    DIED:   10 May 1839          PLACE: Nr Sulpher Sprin
                           SP:
    BUR.:                        PLACE:
                           SS:
    MARR:    9 Dec 1802          PLACE: Abbeville Distri
    FATHER: Joseph TRIMBLE-91
                           PARENTS' MRIN: 37
    MOTHER: Elizabeth (TRIMBLE)-92

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    WIFE    Margarette GILLESPIE-84

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    BORN:   19 Jun 1780          PLACE: Abbeville Dist.
                            B:
    CHR.:                        PLACE:
                            E:
    DIED:   10 May 1839          PLACE: Crittenden Co KY
                           SP:
    BUR.:                        PLACE:
    FATHER: William GILLESPIE-1383
                           PARENTS' MRIN: 539
    MOTHER: Frances (Fanny) PICKENS-1384

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    CHILDREN

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     1.  NAME: Catherine C. TRIMBLE-1357
    ---- BORN:  3 Oct 1803          PLACE: Abbeville Dist S
                            B:
     F   CHR.:                      PLACE:
                            E:
         DIED: 12 Mar 1850          PLACE: Livingston (now
                           SP:
         BUR.:                      PLACE:
                           has other marriage(s)
         SPOUSE: Philip FORD-1356
                           MRIN: 530
         MARR:                      PLACE:
                           SS:

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     2.  NAME: Matthew TRIMBLE-94
    ---- BORN:                      PLACE:
                            B:
     M   CHR.:                      PLACE:
                            E:
         DIED:                      PLACE:
                           SP:
         BUR.:                      PLACE:
         SPOUSE:
         MARR:                      PLACE:
                           SS:

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     3.  NAME: Frances (Fanny) TRIMBLE-1087
    ---- BORN:                      PLACE:
                            B:
     F   CHR.:                      PLACE:
                            E:
         DIED:                      PLACE:
                           SP:
         BUR.:                      PLACE:
         SPOUSE:
         MARR:                      PLACE:
                           SS:

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     4.  NAME: Joseph TRIMBLE-90
    ---- BORN:                      PLACE:
                            B:
     M   CHR.:                      PLACE:
                            E:
         DIED:                      PLACE:
                           SP:
         BUR.:                      PLACE:
         SPOUSE:
         MARR:                      PLACE:
                           SS:

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                                                       | Relationship to:
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Husband______________________________
                                                       |
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Wife______________________________    Date prepared: 26 Jan 1998

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    HUSBAND James TRIMBLE-83
                               Yr of Birth 1780
    WIFE    Margarette GILLESPIE-84
                               Yr of Birth 1780

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    CHILDREN (continued)

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     5.  NAME: Isaac TRIMBLE-82
    ---- BORN:                      PLACE:
                            B:
     M   CHR.:                      PLACE:
                            E:
         DIED:                      PLACE:
                           SP:
         BUR.:                      PLACE:
         SPOUSE:
         MARR:                      PLACE:
                           SS:

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                               Yr of Birth 1780
    WIFE       Margarette GILLESPIE-84
                               Yr of Birth 1780

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    -1HUSBAND  - James TRIMBLE-83-0
              Line 787 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long:
                BIRT PLAC Abbeville Dist. S.C.

              Line 790 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long:
                DEAT PLAC Nr Sulpher Springs Livingston Co. KY

              James trimble settled in what is now Crittenden Co. Ky, where he
died in about
              1808 (sic).

              Line 12480 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long:
                MARR PLAC Abbeville District S.C.

    -1WIFE     - Margarette GILLESPIE-84-0
              Line 799 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long:
                BIRT PLAC Abbeville Dist. S.C.

    -1CHILD  1 - Catherine C. TRIMBLE-1357-0
              Line 11692 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long:
                BIRT PLAC Abbeville Dist S.C.

              Line 11695 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long:
                DEAT PLAC Livingston (now Crittenden) Co. KY

              Catherine C. Trimble and her husband, Joseph Turner Handlin, are
buried in the cemetery of what is now White Chape.

              Other marriages:
                16 Oct 1828       Joseph Turner HANDLIN-1391
MRIN: 543

    -1CHILD  2 - Matthew TRIMBLE-94-0

    -1CHILD  3 - Frances (Fanny) TRIMBLE-1087-0

    -1CHILD  4 - Joseph TRIMBLE-90-0

    -1CHILD  5 - Isaac TRIMBLE-82-0

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    BORN:          1759          PLACE: Rowan Co.,North Carolina
                            B:
    CHR.:                        PLACE:
                            E:
    DIED:          1883/1884     PLACE: Macoupen Co.,Illinois
                           SP:
    BUR.:                        PLACE:
                           SS:
    MARR:                        PLACE:
    FATHER:
    MOTHER:

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    WIFE    Frances (Fanny) PICKENS-1384

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    BORN:                        PLACE:
                            B:
    CHR.:                        PLACE:
                            E:
    DIED:                        PLACE:
                           SP:
    BUR.:                        PLACE:
    FATHER: John PICKENS-15
                           PARENTS' MRIN: 8
    MOTHER: Eleanor (PICKENS)-16

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    CHILDREN

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     1.  NAME: John P. GILLESPIE-1382
    ---- BORN:                      PLACE:
                            B:
     M   CHR.:                      PLACE:
                            E:
         DIED:                      PLACE:
                           SP:
         BUR.:                      PLACE:
         SPOUSE:
         MARR:                      PLACE:
                           SS:

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     2.  NAME: Nellie GILLESPIE-1084
    ---- BORN:                      PLACE:
                            B:
     F   CHR.:                      PLACE:
                            E:
         DIED:                      PLACE:
                           SP:
         BUR.:                      PLACE:
         SPOUSE:
         MARR:                      PLACE:
                           SS:

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     3.  NAME: Fannie GILLESPIE-1083
    ---- BORN:                      PLACE:
                            B:
     F   CHR.:                      PLACE:
                            E:
         DIED:                      PLACE:
                           SP:
         BUR.:                      PLACE:
         SPOUSE:
         MARR:                      PLACE:
                           SS:

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     4.  NAME: Elizabeth GILLESPIE-1082
    ---- BORN:                      PLACE:
                            B:
     F   CHR.:                      PLACE:
                            E:
         DIED:                      PLACE:
                           SP:
         BUR.:                      PLACE:
         SPOUSE:
         MARR:                      PLACE:
                           SS:

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                                                       | Relationship to:
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Wife______________________________    Date prepared: 26 Jan 1998

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    HUSBAND William GILLESPIE-1383
                               Yr of Birth 1759
    WIFE    Frances (Fanny) PICKENS-1384
                               Yr of Birth

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    CHILDREN (continued)

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     5.  NAME: Lemma GILLESPIE-1081
    ---- BORN:                      PLACE:
                            B:
     F   CHR.:                      PLACE:
                            E:
         DIED:                      PLACE:
                           SP:
         BUR.:                      PLACE:
         SPOUSE:
         MARR:                      PLACE:
                           SS:

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     6.  NAME: Margarette GILLESPIE-84
    ---- BORN: 19 Jun 1780          PLACE: Abbeville Dist.
                            B:
     F   CHR.:                      PLACE:
                            E:
         DIED: 10 May 1839          PLACE: Crittenden Co KY
                           SP:
         BUR.:                      PLACE:
         SPOUSE: James TRIMBLE-83
                           MRIN: 35
         MARR:  9 Dec 1802          PLACE: Abbeville Distri
                           SS:

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                               Yr of Birth

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    -1HUSBAND  - William GILLESPIE-1383-0

    -1WIFE     - Frances (Fanny) PICKENS-1384-0

    -1CHILD  1 - John P. GILLESPIE-1382-0

    -1CHILD  2 - Nellie GILLESPIE-1084-0

    -1CHILD  3 - Fannie GILLESPIE-1083-0

    -1CHILD  4 - Elizabeth GILLESPIE-1082-0

    -1CHILD  5 - Lemma GILLESPIE-1081-0

    -1CHILD  6 - Margarette GILLESPIE-84-0
              Line 799 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long:
                BIRT PLAC Abbeville Dist. S.C.

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656. Judith Carpenter

Thomas Carpenter was a witness at her wedding.  No further information known on
this family.


657. Marthew Carpenter

NAME: CORRECTION: Not Matthew, but Marthe or Martha or Marthew.
Matthew was mentioned in his father's will in 1792, but not in his mother's
(Leah) will in 1806.  He may have died in that time period (likely) or have
moved to Missouri.  No further information is known.

E-MAIL: From: Sue Date: 25 August, 1999.
Just wanted to give you a bit of info I have.
There is a bit of confusion in your data.  Joseph did not have a son named
Matthew but he DID have a daughter named Marthe or Martha or Marthew.
Her name is spelled similar to the name Matthew and this caused the
confusion. She may have died young.  But she is listed as a daughter in
his will. I have a copy of it somewhere.  Each daughter got 10
shillings in his will, which seems to be a rather minor amount, although
he may have given each a dowry when they married.
Mary Carpenter married Robert Viors/Viers/Voiers (the name is spelled
many different ways) in Botetourt 1/7/1784.  I have a notarized copy of
the marriage record.


659. William Carpenter

William was mentioned in his father's 1792 will, but not in his mother's 1806
will.  William sold land inherited from his father to Jacob Persinger in 1800.
He possibly moved to Missouri after this sale.  No further information is
known.


660. Abigail Carpenter

She moved to Greenbrier County, VA about 1773 with her husband and she was
still alive in 1792.  No further information known.
Could she have married a second time to a Maloney? No proof given though.


234. Frances Elizabeth Carpenter

NAME: Francis or Frances. Spellers often misspelled Frances as Francis in the
1700s.


John Mann

SEE: Virginia Pioneer by David Glassburn, a book published in 1964.
John Mann is said to have emigrated from Ireland in 1730.   He served as
Ensign in Captain Cunningham's Company of Virginia Rangers under Colonel Boquet
in 1764 and was deceased before 10 Feb. 1780.

> 1   John Mann, Jr. b: 1725 in Ireland  d: 10 Oct 1774
>..  +Damis Unknown  m: in Botetourt Co. Va.
>The only question here is since John died in 1774, they must have divorced.
>Since he is not dead. His father John Mann, Sr. died 28 May 1749 do not think
>she would have waited 15 yrs. to remarry so it must be a marriage to John
Mann, Jr..
>20 Nov. 1764; John Mann, wife Damis, relinguished of dower. Damis now married
>to Joseph Carpenter.
>John Mann, Sr. married Francis Elizabeth Carpenter, his first cousin, their
>daughter, Elizabeth Mann, married my Jeremiah Carpenter of Braxton Co. WV.
>Until we can find something to change the Scotch-Irish Chronicles then we
>must say Damis was the wife of Joseph Carenter, Sr. and fist wife of John
Mann, Sr.
E-Mail from Donna Carpenter 8-27-98 regarding John Mann's first wife.
E_Mail con. 9-22-98.
John Mann took the "Oath of Importation" in Orange Co. Va. on 17 April 1735. He
declared himself a Citizen of Great Britain and a native of Ireland. The family
being Presbyterian, he no doubt came form Ulster. John probably landed in
Philadelphia and may have been in Pennsylvania, and Virginia several years
before taking the oath in 1735. No record of his wife, however his youngest
son, Thomas born shortly before or after 1735 and it is assumed John's wife
was in Virginia.
Indications are that his other three sons were born in Ireland.
In the last part of the 1700's, two Mann brothers, Asa & Moses moved to
Kentucky.  William Mann, and his family stayed in Virginia.  Taken from a
manuscript compiled by W. E. Pullen.
20 Nov. 1764; John Mann, wife Damis, relinguished of dower. Damis now
married to Joseph Carpenter.  Chronicles of
the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia Augusta County Court Records.
MARCH 16, 1768. (499) John Mann qualifies administrator of Caleb May.
(580) Thomas Mann, orphan of John Mann, to be bound; 28 May 1751 Augusta Co.
VA.  Early records are in Orange, Augusta, and Frederick Counties. By 1759
John's three living sons were located on the upper Jackson River, near
present day Covington, Va.
At a place originally known as Mann's Settlement, now Falling Springs, Va
Scotch-Irish Chronicles.
Page 487.--17th August, 1762. Joseph Carpenter to John Mann, 70, 230 acres on
Jackson's River.
Page 403.--20th August, 1760. Widow Swoob's appraisement, by Jos. Carpenter,
Peter Wright,  Jno. Mann.
Library of Va. Wills: Botetourt Co. Va.
William Mann 1778, Will Bk. A. 1770-1801 (Reel 20) son of John Mann of Jackson
River area.
p.   96-98 Will probated Nov 1778
p. 390-396 Accounts Rec. March 1795
Mike Mann reasearch:
William lived at Fort Home on Jackson River, Falling Springs, Va. He served in
Militia at Battle of Point Pleasant.
William Mann built a log structure (house) in 1761 in Falling Spring area near
the
Jackson River. It is the oldest structure in Alleghany County and is owned by
Rodney
Kyle. Covington Va. by Vance High, pulb. 4 Jul. 1976,
A William Mann served as a sgt. in the war. Moses Mann claimed his 200 acres
and
aslo 50 acres  a Thomas Mann was entilted to, as a soldier during the French &
Indian War.  Moses then assigned these acres to William HAMILTON. Thomas acres
were
warrant #1175.  Botetourt Co. Va. Court 1780 No. 581 awarded John , son of
Thomas
Carpenter and heir and son of Solomon Carpenter [this is how it is worded],
deceased
[Solomon] 50 acres of land.  John proved thru discharge papers that Solomon
Carpenter had served as a soldier in CPT Dickenson's Company of Rangers
1758-59.


235. Solomon Carpenter

He served in Captain Dickenson's Company of Rangers in 1759 and in Captain
John Lewis's Company of Volunteers from Botetourt County, Virginia in 1774.
He was a Patriot and an officer in the Continental Line in the Revolution.

SEE: Virginia Frontier by Kegley, page 272; Book ancestry of Jessie Hughes,
THE BORDER SCOUT, page 422; and the will of William Hughes of 1762, 9-16-1767,
Hampshire County, West Virginia.

On May 20, 1765 Joseph Carpenter, Sr. deeded to Soloman Carpenter 160 acres on
Jackson River bordered by John Mann.  Page 184, 1773 Soloman Carpenter to John
Mann, deed book, page 48, Botetourt County, Deeds and Index, Part 1, Film 7301
MESA, A2, Mormon Genealogy Library, Courthouse records of Fincastle, Virginia,
page 339, Judge Lyman Chalkey's records of Augusta County, Virginia.

BOOK: See page 36 #1 (for notes), page 40+ (for family) of the Mowrey 1997
book.   See book information below:
UPDATE OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE NEW ENGLAND CARPENTER FAMILY OF ENGLISH
ORIGIN - THE VIRGINIA / WEST VIRGINIA BRANCH - SOME DESCENDANTS OF JOSEPH
CARPENTER - PIONEER OF THE JACKSON RIVER - MOWREY"S VERSION.
BY TERRY LEE CARPENTER AND PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
PRO BONO PUBLICO - PRIVATELY PUBLISHED, DOVER, OHIO, 1997.
BY PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.   Born abt 1720 per above book.
Children per the above book are: Thomas (b. abt 1740), Solomon (b. abt 1745-50)
Amos (b. 1 Feb. 1754), Jeremiah (b. 1755-1757)), Benjamin (b. late 1750's),
Jesse (b. abt 1762), Nancy (?)(b. 1760-1770), Elizabeth (b. abt 1760),
Margaret (b. abt 1762), Agnes (b. abt. 1766), Joseph (?) (b. abt 1775 - might
have been a grandson), John (b. abt. 1764), and Sudna Elizabeth (b. abt 1765).
Children before the above book data was added: Thomas*, Samuel,
Benjamin*, Jeremiah*, Isaac, Libby**, Jesse*(?), Nathan(?), Nicholas(?),
and Benjamin.    *=Match with above book.  **=Match with Elizabeth above.
Please note the wide range and discrepancies of the children of this family.
Many are misplaced.

NOTE: On 11 April 2000 Terry Lee Carpenter of Texas explained as a side note
how his name came on the above book.  I think it is appropiate to mention it
here. This is a partial excerpt from Terry:
"Another point I would like to make, is that the book on this family that
was published by Paul Mowrey is his work, which he put my name on as a
co-author simply because I helped him gather much of the basic
information -- the interpretation is strictly his though.  He states
right up front that we differ on some of the lineage as he presented it,
but the specific differences are not always highlighted.  I have the
utmost of respect and admiration for Paul Mowrey -- he is an outstanding
person and historian, who has given the facts his best interpretation
based on his personal knowledge and he is entitled to his opinion, just
as Don Norman is, and you and I are -- It is a free country, thanks to
people like you and others who have fought and struggled to keep it this
way! I hope this is some help. Regards, Terry."

E-MAIL: From: RICHARD CARPENTER
To: John L. Carpenter
Date: 30 April, 2000
... If you haven't got a copy of "Border Settlers of Northwest Virginia"
by Lucullus V. McWhorter, a life of Jesse Hughes, I suggest you do
so. It has lots of information on the life of Jesse Hughes,
Indian fighter, and associates, such as Jeremiah Carpenter. Excellent reading!
Now to the descendants of Sudna and Solomon Carpenter. You show a marriage
date of 1740, VA.
If this Solomon Carpenter is son of Joseph Carpenter, then the date is wrong.
The records state that Joseph Carpenter came from NY in 1746 with most of his
children, then unmarried.  He received a patent for his land in 1750.
Mattie Bell Carpenter Ross, 1974, in her compilation "Some Descendants of
Joseph Carpenter and others", says Solomon Carpenter, born 1725 in New York,
son of Joseph Carpenter, married Sutnew --, perhaps daughter of Peter Wright.
She also writes, "Family researchers have established that there were three
separate branches of the Carpenter family in North Carolina.
These are (1) Quaker descendants of Samuel Carpenter of Philadelphia,
(2) descendants of Dr. Henry Zimmerman of PA-Germans, who changed their
names to it's English meaning, 'Carpenter',
(3) descendants of early VA settlers William and Simond Carpenter of England."
It appears to me that you have posted some of the information from Don Norman
and Donna Tivener, both of whom have listed quite a bit of incorrect,
unproven information!
Quoting from Chalkley's records, (available on line at VA library
website) ......
In 1764, Joseph Carpenter divided 464 acres equally between his sons Joseph Jr.
and Solomon.
In 1773, Solomon sold 160 acres to his brother in law John Mann
In 1779, Jeremiah Carpenter of Greenbrier bought of Moses Mann 160 Acres
In 1787 Thomas Carpenter bought 115 acres on Potts Creek
In 1784, David Glasburn bought of Thomas Carpenter 50 acres on Jackson's River
On Nov. 19, 1766, Joseph Carpenter and William Whesley were directed to survey
a road from Fort Defiance and Handley's Mill. Other men ordered out were
Solomon, Thomas, Nathaniel, Zopher, Joseph Jr., and a second Thomas
Carpenter and others.
Morton also states in "Annals of Bath County", "the Joseph Carpenter who came
from England as an indentured servant, and lived for seven years with
Luftus Pullen, was not related to the other families.
He settled in Little Valley about 1790 and reared twelve children.
Now, you show, if I'm reading right, 17 children of Solomon Carpenter and
Sudna Hughes!!!!!!!!!!! Hardly believable, even for those days!
There is no Carpenter researcher to my knowledge, that lists 17 children to
this marriage!
Agnes Carpenter is probably one of the Harrison County Carpenters, related to
Nicholas.
Also Margaret Carpenter, probably the same.
Thomas "Jack" Carpenter has not been proven to be of Joseph Carpenter's family
line.
No. 6 and no 14, both Benjamin Carpenter?
No 6 is probably one of the Amherst Carpenters, again, not proven to be related
to Joseph Carpenter no 10 No record of any Nathan Carpenter.
A mistaken records shows Kate Carpenter married to Nathan.
The records prove Kate's husband was Nicholas Carpenter, probably Jr.
no 11 Amos----born in New London, CT. 1754, again misplaced.
no 13 Nicholas, probably of German descent.
no 17 John Carpenter, probably related to Nicholas.
John, if I am wrong on any of my above assumptions, I will be glad to apologize
and change my records! Terry and Paul have set me
straight on several of my conclusions, (not all).
I know that you are a Yankee and don't know much about us southerners, but we
can be gracious at times!
LOL It is said that southern hospitality is an inch deep and a mile wide!~
Seriously, I have been to your website and it could very well lead astray a
new searcher. There are many now on the internet and they are putting any
data they find on their ancestry program and putting it out on the internet.
Just check Ancestry.com and you will see what I mean.
Richard L. (Dick) Carpenter. (Forwarded to me by John L. Carpenter)
MORE LAND DATA:
John (F ?) CARPENTER Greenbrier Co. VA land Grants Sims Land Grant Index -
1787 100 acres on Hands Creek; bk 2 p. 3 1792; 200 acres on Swobes Knob;
bk. 2 p. 416 1799 200 acres on Elks Run.    A map of 1861 shows Elk
River coming down out of the Alleghany Mts and connects into Kanawha
River at present day Charleston (which is in Kanawha Co.,W VA  I would
venture to guess that Elk Run is some place off of Elk R. and would also
explain the eventual land owned in Kanawha Co. in the early 1800s.  I
wish that I knew exactly where Swobe's Knob , as well as Hands Creek is
located.
Additional land is sited on Potts Creek (Abstracts of Surveys) p. 30 and 80.
Solomon owns 50 acres on Potts Creek, a branch of the James R. Oct. 16, 1767;
p. 83 Solomon Carpenter , 43 acres on Potts Creek a branch of James
River on 7 Oct. 1787.
-- Swobe2 CONT both were in Greenbrier Co. VA at the time and are in present-day Monroe
Co. WV.  Per Terry Lee Carpenter.

E-MAIL: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 From:    theblums@postoffice.pacbell.net
John,
It appears that this court date will help more closely pinpoint the time of death for Solomon
who marr. Sudrah Hughes ?  It seems pausible to me that this would have been the Solomon on Potts Creek.  Would a case concerning this Solomon move into the Greenbrier Court ?  I suppose that you have some evidence
of Botetourt being the place of death.
"1781 (Apr.?) Cornelius Daugherty assee. of Jas (Loud, Lord, Lorid?) agst Solomon Carpenter It appearing to the court that the defendant in this suit hath departed this life, It is ordered that the same do abate.
Jno Mann assee of Thomas Mann dec'd vs. John Akin the same  order as above by the death of petitioner
John Pursell plf. vs.  Jacob Mann deft."
*note:  there were several mentions of the Mann name in the court records.
Sandy.

CENSUS: 1850 US Census - with father. See father's notes.  Listed as Hanson age 10.


Sudnah or Sudrah Hughes

She was the "Widow" Carpenter living with her son, Jeremiah, in the 1790's,
when her other son, Benjamin, was killed by "Big Indian and Little Indian" in
1792.
E-MAIL:  Below is a Hughes Family Researcher who has written a book on the family.
"Patty B. Myers"

The book format below starts in this note field then goes to her sons note field
for Issac to the note field of Benjamin.
              Descendants of Sudna Or Sudrah Hughes
Generation No. 1
1.  SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES  (WILLIAM1) was born 1722 in VA.  She married
SOLOMON JOSEPH CARPENTER 1740 in Virginia, son of JOSEPH CARPENTER and FRANCES
DAMES.
Notes for SOLOMON JOSEPH CARPENTER:
In 1746 he came with his Father and his brothersJoseph,Zopher,and Nicolas
SOURCE: Don Norman's web page on this family.
He served in Capt. Dickersons Company of Rangers in part of the French &
Indian War in 1759 and in Capt. John Lewis's Company of volunteers From
Botetourt County,Virginia in 1774. He was a Patriot & an Officer in the
continental Line in the revolution.!He served in Captain Dickenson's Company of
Rangers in 1759 and in Captain
John Lewis's Company of Volunteers from Botetourt County, Virginia in 1774.
He was a Patriot and an officer in the Continental Line in the Revolution.

SEE: Virginia Frontier by Kegley, page 272; Book ancestry of Jessie Hughes,
THE BORDER SCOUT, page 422; and the will of William Hughes of 1762, 9-16-1767,
Hampshire County, West Virginia.
On May 20, 1765 Joseph Carpenter, Sr. deeded to Soloman Carpenter 160 acres on
Jackson River bordered by John Mann.  Page 184, 1773 Soloman Carpenter to John
Mann, deed book, page 48, Botetourt County, Deeds and Index, Part 1, Film 7301
MESA, A2, Mormon Genealogy Library, Courthouse records of Fincastle,
Virginia,page 339, Judge Lyman Chalkey's records of Augusta County, Virginia.
Children of SUDNA HUGHES and SOLOMON CARPENTER are:
2. i.
THOMAS "JACK"3 CARPENTER, b. 1740, Botetourt, VA; d. August 06, 1803, Nash,NC.
ii.
BENJAMIN CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1744, Virginia; d. 1792; m. (1) SARAH MERRITT,
August 25, 1789, Wake County, North Carolinia; m. (2) RUTH JEFFERERS, September
12, 1790.
iii.
JEREMIAH CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1746, NY Colony; m. ELIZABETH HAMM, March 08, 1785.
iv.
SOLOMON CARPENTER, b. Bef. 1751; m. LUCRETA PRENTIS, September 01, 1783.
v.
JESSE CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1752; m. (1) SARAH JANE RIFFE; m. (2) JENNY WRIGHT,
May 03, 1796.
vi.
ELIZABETH CARPENTER, m. JAMES MCDOWELL.
3. vii.
AMOS CARPENTER, b. February 01, 1754, Botetourt County, Virginia; d. March 31,
1838, Meigs ,Ohio.
viii.
MARGARET CARPENTER, m. JOSEPH RIFFE, September 16, 1779.
ix.
NANCY CARPENTER, m. HENRY RUNNIOUN.
x.
AGNES CARPENTER, m. JOSEPH WEST, February 17, 1781.
xi.
MARY CARPENTER, m. JAMES SCHOOLCRAFT.

Generation No. 2
2.  THOMAS "JACK"3 CARPENTER (SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born 1740
in Botetourt, VA, and died August 06, 1803 in Nash,NC.  He married MARY LEE
1760 in Nash, North Carolina, daughter of JAMES LEE and FRANCIS.
Notes for THOMAS "JACK" CARPENTER:
1790 Nash County Census, Thomas Carpenter,over 16 wfm, 1 m & 2F, under 16 yrs
old,wife & 1 boy 16 +, 1 girl - 16, 1 slave
1800 Census Nash County, SC :
Notes for MARY LEE:
!Marriage either 1760 or 1767.  Birth either 1740 or 1747.
Unknown if CARPENTER is maiden or married name.  Not found in the CM or SC
books.
Info supplied from " division of Thomas Carpenter's estate ,Febrary ,1894 ,
Nash County, N. C.
Mary Carpenter's estate settled August , 1832 Nash County, S. C.
Children of THOMAS CARPENTER and MARY LEE are:
4.
i.
BURWELL4 CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1762, Nash, NC; d. Bef. 1831, Anderson , SC.
5.
ii.
JOHN CARPENTER, b. 1764, Nash, NC; d. 1824, Newman, GA..
6.
iii.
RUEBEN LEE CARPENTER , SR., b. Abt. 1765, Halifax Dist. ,North Carolina; d.
1840, Edgefield County, SC.
iv.
FANNIE CARPENTER, b. 1768, Nash, NC; m. WILLIAM MANOR.
7.
v.
JAMES CARPENTER, b. 1768, Nash, NC; d. Bef. 1804.
vi.
BETSY CARPENTER, b. 1770, Nash, NC; m. ABRAHAM WINBOURN.
vii.
WILLIAM CARPENTER, b. 1770, Nash, NC; d. November 26, 1832, Surry , NC.
viii.
BENJAMIN CARPENTER, b. 1772, Nash, NC.
ix.
POLLY CARPENTER, b. 1772, Nash, NC; m. THOMAS BRYANT.
8.
x.
FRANCES CARPENTER, b. 1774, Nash, NC.
3.  AMOS3 CARPENTER (SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born February 01,
1754 in Botetourt County, Virginia, and died March 31, 1838 in Meigs ,Ohio.  He
married (1) MARY BICKLE, daughter of JACOB BICKLE and MARGARET.  He married (2)
MARGARET MCGLAUGHLIN February 18, 1802 in Botetourt County, Virginia.
Notes for AMOS CARPENTER:
Sources: Paul T. Mowery's book Update of the New England Carpenter Family of
English Origin
Info from family records of Debra Grubb, Gallia ,Ohio (jgrubb@zoomnet.net)
Amos (16) Carpenter was born Feb 1, 1754, married twice and died on March 31
1838 in Meigs County, Ohio. He first married a Mary Bickle before 1793 and
secondly, Margaret McGlaughlin on Feb 18 , 1802 (she was 17 years old he was 48
). Amos served in basicly the same outfits as his brother Solomon, except for
Captain John Lewis' Company of Botetourt Volunteers. Amos suffered from " shell
shock " caused from his expierences in the Revolutionary War. It is not known
if he and his first wife had children; however those by his second wife are.
Their are many decendants still living in Meigs County, Ohio (created from
Gallia), Ohio.
Notes for MARGARET MCGLAUGHLIN:
Source : Revolutionary War Period
Bible family & Marriage Records Gleaned from Pension Applications Volume #6
W-5239: VA/OH
Amos carpenter m. Margaret McGlaughlin 18 Feb 1803 by Elder Jacob Cozad at West
Fork Settlement , Harrison Co. , VA. She was age 76 in 1853. In 1853 resina
Gilpn gave statement that she was the nurse of Margaret McGlaughlin Carpenter's
when her son Jeremiah was born, and she was invited to the marriage but could
not cross the creek (West Fork) on account of the high rise. Margaret Bickel or
Bickle, in 1853 , stated that the soliders first wife was her husband's sister.
B.L. Wt. 26301-160-55
Source : Abstracts of Rev War pension Files
Carpenter , Amos, Margaret, W5239, BLW #23601-160-55, VA line, Sol lived in
Greenbrier Cty., VA. at enl, sol. appl 2 Oct 1832 Meigs Cty. , Ohio, age 77, a
res of Scipo township, OH.sol m. Margaret McGlaughlin 2-18-1803 at West Fork
Settlement in Harrison Cty,VA & sol d.5-31-1837 in Columbia township in Meigs
Cty, OH, wid appl 11-23-1853 Meigs Cty,OH,sol & wife had 3 children but only
Jeremiah their 1 st child was named & in 1853 was a res of Columbia township,
OH, in 1853 a Margaret Bickel or Bickle stated sol 1 st wife was her husband's
sister.
info supplied by Debi Grubb
1552 Kemper Hollow Rd.
Gallipolis , 0hio 45631
jgrubb@zoomnet.net

Child of AMOS CARPENTER and MARY BICKLE is:
i.
MARY4 CARPENTER.
Children of AMOS CARPENTER and MARGARET MCGLAUGHLIN are:
ii.
JEREMIAH4 CARPENTER, b. May 07, 1803, Botetourt County, Virginia; d. July 23,
1884, Ohio; m. SARAH ANN SIMPSON, February 18, 1823, Ohio.
Notes for JEREMIAH CARPENTER:
J
iii.
AMOS CARPENTER, b. 1806, Gallia , Ohio.
iv.
WILLIAM CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1809, Gallia , Ohio.

Generation No. 3
4.  BURWELL4 CARPENTER (THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was
born Abt. 1762 in Nash, NC, and died Bef. 1831 in Anderson , SC.  He married
ELIZABETH CARPENTER Abt. 1788, daughter of ELISHA CARPENTER and DELIVERENCE
MAROUGH.

Children of BURWELL CARPENTER and ELIZABETH CARPENTER are:

i.
15 CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1788.

ii.
WILLIS WILLIAM CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1790.

iii.
ELIZABETH CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1792.

iv.
DELANEY CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1794.

v.
SARAH CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1796.

vi.
BURWELL CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1798.

vii.
7 CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1800.

viii.
THOMAS CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1802.

ix.
ALFRED CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1804.

5.  JOHN4 CARPENTER (THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was
born 1764 in Nash, NC, and died 1824 in Newman, GA..  He married AMANDA
CARPENTER Abt. 1789.

Children of JOHN CARPENTER and AMANDA CARPENTER are:

i.
JOHN THOMAS5 CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1790.

ii.
M. EULA MCGUIRE CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1792.

iii.
ROBERT CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1794.

6.  RUEBEN LEE4 CARPENTER , SR. (THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES,
WILLIAM1) was born Abt. 1765 in Halifax Dist. ,North Carolina, and died 1840 in
Edgefield County, SC.  He married (1) MARY BUTLER in Edgefield Co., SOUTH
CAROLINA, daughter of THOMAS BUTLER and ?.  He married (2) HENDERSON.

Notes for RUEBEN LEE CARPENTER , SR.:
RUEBEN, John & Thomas were listed on the 1803 GA tax roll.

HENRY,  John & Thomas were listed in the 1805 Lincoln Ga Lottery.

Rueben L Carpenter Sr. was supposedly listed as a farmer in Edgefield Co.,
South Carolina.  His son Thomas was in Henry Co Georgia durnig the 1820 and
1830 census.  Thomas did a lot of land dealings in the Land Lottery.  He too
must have been a farmer as in different years his land was auctioned off.  His
son Thomas M. Carpenter and James Warren also have land records in GA.
Surprisingly, their is a $1500.00 bond between THomas (the father) and John
Wilkens in which the agreement states that John Wilkens will take guardianship
of Sallie, David Jered and John Harlen who were orphaned.  There seems to be a
lot of Zachariahs and Rueben Lee Carpenters.  Trying to figure if they were
children, brothers or fathers is difficult.  I have taken my best guess at
putting them where I think they belong based on dates, hearsay, stories and
land transactions (which would mean they would have to be old enough to buy,
etc.).

Children of RUEBEN CARPENTER and MARY BUTLER are:
9.
i.
THOMAS5 CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1790, Edgefield, SC; d. Abt. 1838, Walton, Henry,
GA.
10.
ii.
JOHN AUGUSTA CARPENTER, b. August 02, 1829, Edgefield , SC; d. January 25,
1881, Gilmer ,Upshur, TX..

7.  JAMES4 CARPENTER (THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was
born 1768 in Nash, NC, and died Bef. 1804.

Notes for JAMES CARPENTER:
info supplied by Donna Carpenter ,Phomiex Ariz.

Children of JAMES CARPENTER are:

i.
PATSY5 CARPENTER.

ii.
POLLY CARPENTER.

8.  FRANCES4 CARPENTER (THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was
born 1774 in Nash, NC.  She married JOHN HILL.

Child of FRANCES CARPENTER and JOHN HILL is:

i.
JOHN5 HILL, b. 1820; m. SOPHIA MCCLURE.

Generation No. 4

9.  THOMAS5 CARPENTER (RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES,
WILLIAM1) was born Abt. 1790 in Edgefield, SC, and died Abt. 1838 in Walton,
Henry, GA.  He married *LOVIE JOHNSON Abt. 1821 in Edgefield Co, SOUTH
CAROLINA.

Notes for THOMAS CARPENTER:
In 1803 -John, Rueben and THomas were listed in the Georgia Taxroll.
In 1805 -Henry, John and Thomas were listed in the Lincoln Co. Georgia Land
Lottery.
Up to 1838 -Thomas was named on various land transactions in Henry Co. GA
along with Zachariah.  He put up the $1500 bond with Wilkes for the Harlen kids
guardianship.

Notes for *LOVIE JOHNSON:
There is a Richard Johnson b 1759 VA Militia on ALA muster Roll

Children of THOMAS CARPENTER and *LOVIE JOHNSON are:
11.
i.
JAMES WARREN6 CARPENTER , SR., b. January 21, 1813, Georgia or So Carolina ?;
d. 1857, Clay Co, Alabama.

ii.
THOMAS M. CARPENTER, b. 1815, GA; d. Abt. 1840, GA.

iii.
CHARLES CARPENTER, b. 1816, GA; d. Unknown, Unknown.

iv.
FANNIE MCKEE (?) CARPENTER, b. 1820-1825, GA; d. Unknown, Unknown.

v.
GIRL 3 CARPENTER, b. 1820-1825, GA; d. Unknown, Unknown.

vi.
GIRL 2 CARPENTER, b. 1820-1825, GA; d. Unknown, Unknown.

12.
vii.
WILLIAM HENRY CARPENTER, b. 1825, Walton (Henry) Co. , Georgia; d. 1861-1865,
Confederate Army Shelbyville, TENN.

viii.
MARTHA CARPENTER, b. 1827.

13.
ix.
REUBIN L. CARPENTER, b. December 14, 1828, Henry Co, Georgia; d. June 21, 1863,
Shelbyville, Tenn.

10.  JOHN AUGUSTA5 CARPENTER (RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2
HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born August 02, 1829 in Edgefield , SC, and died January
25, 1881 in Gilmer ,Upshur, TX..  He married SARAH COPE September 05, 1850 in
Gilmer ,Upshur, TX..

Children of JOHN CARPENTER and SARAH COPE are:
14.
i.
RUBEN (M.J.)6 CARPENTER, b. December 19, 1851, Gilmer ,Upshur, TX.; d. August
01, 1934, Gilmer ,Upshur, TX..

ii.
HENRY ALAN CARPENTER, b. March 26, 1853, Gilmer ,Upshur, TX.; m. T.E. GALLOWAY.

iii.
LETHA ELIZABETH CARPENTER, b. February 16, 1856, Gilmer ,Upshur, TX.; m. ISSAC
TURNAGE, January 23, 1876.

iv.
CHARLES H. CARPENTER, b. January 22, 1858, Gilmer ,Upshur, TX.; d. April 02,
1877.

v.
WILLIAM W. CARPENTER, b. April 19, 1861, Gilmer ,Upshur, TX..

vi.
MARY R. E. CARPENTER, b. June 19, 1866, Gilmer ,Upshur, TX.; d. October 23,
1934; m. EUGENE LEWIS, October 21, 1883.

vii.
SAMUEL L. CARPENTER, b. February 22, 1875, Gilmer ,Upshur, TX.; d. November 25,
1906; m. (1) HATTIE O. QUINN, December 25, 1887; m. (2) LELA V. QUINN, July 07,
1901.

Generation No. 5

11.  JAMES WARREN6 CARPENTER , SR. (THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3,
SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born January 21, 1813 in Georgia or So
Carolina ?, and died 1857 in Clay Co, Alabama.  He married *SARAH A. HARLEN
November 11, 1838 in Henry Co, Georgia.

Notes for JAMES WARREN CARPENTER , SR.:
Warren is buried at the old Macedonia Cemetary.

Notes for *SARAH A. HARLEN:
Sallie wrote a letter in 1911 which was published in the Primitive Baptist
Newsletter.  She was born in Oglethorpe or Wilkes GA.  She moved to Henry Co.
when she was five.  Her father died making the trip.  Sallie and her brothers
David (Jered) and John were put under the guardianship of Mr. John R. Wilkens.
Later John R. Harlen was put in the guadianship of William J. Fears
Sallie married Warren when she was nineteen.  They lived two years in GA, moved
to Alabama border and shortly thereafter to Clay Co. Ala. where they raised 9
children.  Had 55 grandchildren, 174 great grandchildren and 22 grt.grt
grandchildren. Making 260 in all.  Sallie and Warren were active members of the
Macedonia Church throughout their lives.  Part of Sallie's testimony in the
letter stated, "I am obliged to praise Him if He takes all I have, for He does
all things well.  He gives and the right to take when it pleases Him."  She is
buried along side her husband at the "old" Macedonia Cemetary, with her mother
Judith (Morgan ?) Wilkens, daughters Marthena, Emaly Caroline and Mary Ann;
grandaughter Lucy M Ponder; nephew(?) Elijah Thomas and husband Warren.

Children of JAMES CARPENTER and *SARAH HARLEN are:

i.
LYDIA ELIZABETH7 CARPENTER, b. October 20, 1839, Henry Co, Georgia; d. June 05,
1917, Unknown; m. WILLIAM HAMMER.

15.
ii.
MARY ANN CARPENTER, b. May 28, 1841, Henry (Walton) Co., GA; d. February 02,
1878, Clay Co, Alabama.

iii.
SARAH ABIGAIL CARPENTER, b. December 16, 1842, Henry (Walton) Co., GA; d.
Unknown, Unknown; m. THOMAS L. JOHNSON, August 21, 1858.

Notes for THOMAS L. JOHNSON:
Land deeds recorded in Henry Co GA show a
Thomas D Johnson, title J.P. in 1832
Thomas J.Johnson, title Sherriff, in 1834
Jesse Johnson in 1823
Sherwood Johnson in 1828
Sarah Abigail Carpenter b. 12-16-1842 (dau. of James W. Carp Sr) married Thomas
L. Johnson.
Zachariah Thomas Carp b. 3-25-1848 married Mattie JOHNSON b.1850
Thomas' sons(Thomas M.and James Warren) went fromHenry Co. to Clay Co. Their
are land records showing this.

iv.
MATHENA CANDIS CARPENTER, b. January 01, 1844, Henry (Walton) Co., GA; d.
August 27, 1877, Clay Co, Alabama.

Notes for MATHENA CANDIS CARPENTER:
Mathina is buried in the "old" Macedonia Cemetary.

v.
MARY JANE CARPENTER, b. September 13, 1846, Henry (Walton) Co., GA; d. October
28, 1905, Unknown; m. (1) XXXX BRUSTER; m. (2) WILLIAM J. WILLOUGHBY, September
09, 1875.

16.
vi.
ZACHARIAH THOMAS CARPENTER, b. March 25, 1848, Henry (Walton) Co., GA; d.
August 10, 1908, Lineville, Clay Co, Alabama.

vii.
DAVID HARLIN CARPENTER, b. November 10, 1850, Clay Co, Alabama; d. February 21,
1921, Unknown; m. (1) BARTLETT; m. (2) JANE HARRIS.

viii.
EMALY CAROLINE CARPENTER, b. May 30, 1853, Clay Co, Alabama; d. October 01,
1868, Clay Co, Alabama.

17.
ix.
JAMES WARREN CARPENTER , JR., b. May 30, 1856, Clay Co, Alabama; d. August 07,
1913, Unknown.

12.  WILLIAM HENRY6 CARPENTER (THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR
SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born 1825 in Walton (Henry) Co. , Georgia, and
died 1861-1865 in Confederate Army Shelbyville, TENN.  He married NANCY JANE
GARRETT.

Notes for WILLIAM HENRY CARPENTER:
William died in the Confederate Army

Notes for NANCY JANE GARRETT:
Info I was given lists her birth as Feb 21 1835.  That would make her too young
to have these children.  Assume error and should be 1825

Children of WILLIAM CARPENTER and NANCY GARRETT are:

i.
ZACHARIAH7 CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1843, ALA or GA; d. Unknown, Unk.

ii.
FRANCES HENRY CARPENTER, b. 1843-1858, GA or ALA; d. Unknown, Unk.

13.  REUBIN L.6 CARPENTER (THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR
SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born December 14, 1828 in Henry Co, Georgia, and
died June 21, 1863 in Shelbyville, Tenn.  He married EMILY GARRETT January 21,
1848.

Notes for REUBIN L. CARPENTER:
Rueben and Emily had 7 kids.  He died in the Confederate Army.

Children of REUBIN CARPENTER and EMILY GARRETT are:

i.
UNKNOWN 17 CARPENTER, b. 1848-1863.

ii.
UNKNOWN 2 CARPENTER, b. 1848-1863.

iii.
UNKNOWN 3 CARPENTER, b. 1848-1863.

iv.
UNKNOWN 4 CARPENTER, b. 1848-1863.

v.
UNKNOWN 5 CARPENTER, b. 1848-1863.

vi.
UNKNOWN 6 CARPENTER, b. 1848-1863.

vii.
UNKNOWN 7 CARPENTER, b. 1848-1863.

14.  RUBEN (M.J.)6 CARPENTER (JOHN AUGUSTA5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3,
SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born December 19, 1851 in Gilmer
,Upshur, TX., and died August 01, 1934 in Gilmer ,Upshur, TX..  He married
LOUISE EMILY GOODWIN April 19, 1874 in Gilmer ,Upshur, TX., daughter of J.W.
GOODWIN and SARAH.

Children of RUBEN CARPENTER and LOUISE GOODWIN are:
18.  ... continued in the notes of her son Benjamin ...


662. Thomas Carpenter

NOTE: The following notes are a duplication of RIN 5337 - Thomas Carpenter b. abt 1740 VA/NC. Y-DNA has indicated a mismatch with Group 2. Descendants of Thomas are listed in Group 13.

DEATH: Either he or his wife died either 6 Aug. 1803 or 6 Oct. 1803.
He was identified as the "eldest son of solomon" in a court case om 5 May 1791
and served during Lord Dunmore's War in Captain John Lewis' company of
Botetourt Volunteers in 1774 with brothers; John, Solomon and Jeremiah.  He
was wounded at the Battle of Point Pleasant in westeren Virginia on
10 Oct. 1774, the first battle of the Revolutionary War.

BOOK: See page 40 (for notes) of the Mowrey 1997 book. See book information
below:
UPDATE OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE NEW ENGLAND CARPENTER FAMILY OF ENGLISH
ORIGIN - THE VIRGINIA / WEST VIRGINIA BRANCH - SOME DESCENDANTS OF JOSEPH
CARPENTER - PIONEER OF THE JACKSON RIVER - MOWREY"S VERSION.
BY TERRY LEE CARPENTER AND PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
PRO BONO PUBLICO - PRIVATELY PUBLISHED, DOVER, OHIO, 1997.
BY PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.  Terry Lee Carpenter disagrees with the ancestry of
Thomas "Jack" Carpenter.  He believes there are 2 Thomas Carpenters confused.
Page 46: Children of Thomas (16) Carpenter, of Solomon (15), of Joseph (14);
        1. John (17) Carpenter presented Solomon's discharge in Botetourt
County court in February of 1780 and proved Solomon (15)'s Ranger service. He
was identified as "son of Thomas Carpenter and heir of Solomon Carpenter" on
this date and was issued a warrant for 60 acres of land as such. This
relationship was restated in another Botetourt County court case on 5 May 1791.
        2. William (17) Carpenter - no further information.
        3. Thomas (17) Carpenter - no further information.
        4. Ruben (17) Carpenter - no further information.
        5. Burwell (17) Carpenter - no further information.
        Others?
Thomas (16) Carpenter is found in the Nash county, North Carolina censuses
of 1790 and 1800.  Reuben and Thomas Jr. are also found in both surveys.
William is in the 1800 census.  Burwell is found in the adjoining county of
Wake in 1790 and Nash county in 1800.
After Thomas's demise in 1803, these sons vascillate between
Pendleton and Edgefield Counties in South Carolina and those
counties surrounding Nash in North Carolina through 1840.
This writer (of the above book) has summaries of all of the Carpenters
living in the United States 1790 through 1840 by census and finds them very
helpful at times.

CENSUS: 1790 - See wife's notes.
CENSUS: 1800 - See wife's notes.

E-MAIL: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 From: Terry Lee Carpenter "diluvius@flash.net"
WFT is a big problem -- they just copy it and sell it, and they do put
on a warning to check out the data but it is most often ignored
completely.  The disclaimer keeps them from being legally liable, but
they know darn good and well what people are doing with the information
and don't care as long as there is a buck to be made from the
unsuspecting customer.
A genealogy faker put together a fake lineage from Thomas Carpenter of
Nash Co. NC back to Thomas "Jack" Carpenter and Joseph
(SEE HIS SON JOHN AND THE NOTES!)
Carpenter of Botetourt, that has been circulating for well over 20 years now.
All attempts to correct it have so far gone largely ignored because many of
the descendants don't want it challenged and have actively tried to
discredit anyone who tried to help them correct it.  But in the long
run, the truth will come out and the fakers will be discredited
themselves.  There are several others similar to that one that are also
circulating widely at present.  Just beware of the undocumented data out
there! Regards, Terry Lee Carpenter.


667. Benjamin Carpenter

BOOK: See page 41 (for notes) of the Mowrey 1997 book. See book information
below:
UPDATE OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE NEW ENGLAND CARPENTER FAMILY OF ENGLISH
ORIGIN - THE VIRGINIA / WEST VIRGINIA BRANCH - SOME DESCENDANTS OF JOSEPH
CARPENTER - PIONEER OF THE JACKSON RIVER - MOWREY"S VERSION.
BY TERRY LEE CARPENTER AND PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
PRO BONO PUBLICO - PRIVATELY PUBLISHED, DOVER, OHIO, 1997.
BY PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
Page 41: 5. Benjamin (16) Carpenter was probably born in the late 1750's,
married Ruth Jeffers 12 September1790 in Botetourt County and was killed by
Indians in March of 1792 on the Elk River in then Nicholas County. He was a
chainbearer for the survey of Jeremiah (16)'s land on the Elk River in Randolph
County on March 11, 1792 and again on the "back creek" of the Holly River on
March 13, 1792. His murder occurred shortly after this. Ruth was also killed at
this time (she was expecting their first child).

E-MAIL: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 From: Nkobblk@aol.com
Sudna Hughes Carpenter did not die in an Indian attack on Mar. 1792 on the
Elk River.
Benjamin Carpenter and wife Ruth Jeffers Carpenter were killed in this
attack. Benjamin was a brother of Jeremiah Carpenter who married Elizabeth
Hamm, possible sister of Job Hughe's wife.
Proof is yet to be found that Solomon and Sudna Hughes Carpenter were parents
of Jeremiah and Benjamin Carpenter of the Elk River settlement!


Ruth Jeffers

She was pregnant with her first child when she was killed by indians.


668. Jesse Carpenter

BOOK: See page 41 (for notes) of the Mowrey 1997 book. See book information
below:
UPDATE OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE NEW ENGLAND CARPENTER FAMILY OF ENGLISH
ORIGIN - THE VIRGINIA / WEST VIRGINIA BRANCH - SOME DESCENDANTS OF JOSEPH
CARPENTER - PIONEER OF THE JACKSON RIVER - MOWREY"S VERSION.
BY TERRY LEE CARPENTER AND PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
PRO BONO PUBLICO - PRIVATELY PUBLISHED, DOVER, OHIO, 1997.
BY PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
Page 41: 6. Jesse (16) Carpenter was born about 1762, married Sarah Jane
"Jenny" Rife or Riffe on May 3, 1796 and moved to Gallia County, Ohio
immediately thereafter.
He served in the War of 1812 and received a pension (later revoked) for
service in the Revolutionary War under a Captain Trunk. Some researchers
believe (page 42) that Jesse was twice married and that Sarah Jane was his
second wife. Jenny Rite (Wright?) was supposedly his first wife. Jesse's
marriage is yet to be found on any original list by John Alderson, the widely
travelled itinerant minister who supposedly celebrated the rites of matrimony
(Other Carpenter marriages are). Old English script sometimes seems to defy
deciphering and transliterations are very common. Perhaps this is a "second
hand reading". "Jenny" is the usual nickname for Jane. People are
often found with first, middle or nickname in different censuses. Any
legitimate proof of either marriage, particularly a second one, would quickly
eliminate the controversy.

NOTE: Is Jesse short for Nathan?


Sarah Jane "Jenny" Riffe

NAME: Riffe or Rife.  She husband's notes.
AKA: Jenny Rite (Wright?).
Father is believed to be Joseph.  However he may have been an uncle.


669. Nancy Carpenter

BOOK: See page 42 (for notes) of the Mowrey 1997 book. See book information
below:
UPDATE OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE NEW ENGLAND CARPENTER FAMILY OF ENGLISH
ORIGIN - THE VIRGINIA / WEST VIRGINIA BRANCH - SOME DESCENDANTS OF JOSEPH
CARPENTER - PIONEER OF THE JACKSON RIVER - MOWREY"S VERSION.
BY TERRY LEE CARPENTER AND PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
PRO BONO PUBLICO - PRIVATELY PUBLISHED, DOVER, OHIO, 1997.
BY PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
Page 42: 7. ?Nancy (16) Carpenter? was born circa 1760-1770's (supposedly
captured by Indians when Benjamin and Ruth Jeffers Carpenter were killed and
rescued by Jesse Hughes and her brother, Jeremiah) and married one of the
numerous Henry Runnions. This would have had to have been a brother of Elijah
Runnion (father of Henry, John and Elijah Jr.)!
Does the "?" mark indicate she may be of a different Carpenter line like Joseph
Carpenter????


672. Agnes Carpenter

BOOK: See page 42 (for notes) of the Mowrey 1997 book. See book information
below:
UPDATE OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE NEW ENGLAND CARPENTER FAMILY OF ENGLISH
ORIGIN - THE VIRGINIA / WEST VIRGINIA BRANCH - SOME DESCENDANTS OF JOSEPH
CARPENTER - PIONEER OF THE JACKSON RIVER - MOWREY"S VERSION.
BY TERRY LEE CARPENTER AND PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
PRO BONO PUBLICO - PRIVATELY PUBLISHED, DOVER, OHIO, 1997.
BY PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
No further information is known.


673. Joseph (Not of this line) Carpenter

THIS JOSEPH IS NOT THE SON OF SOLOMAN!  SEE BELOW!
The data is left here to provide correction for researchers!!!
Correct Parentage below.

BOOK: See page 42 (for notes) of the Mowrey 1997 book. See book information
below:  See also page 49 which refutes Joseph as the son of Soloman.
It indicates that this Joseph Carpenter was of German (Zimmerman)
ancestry and not of the New England Carpenters.  SEE NOTE BELOW!!!!
UPDATE OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE NEW ENGLAND CARPENTER FAMILY OF ENGLISH
ORIGIN - THE VIRGINIA / WEST VIRGINIA BRANCH - SOME DESCENDANTS OF JOSEPH
CARPENTER - PIONEER OF THE JACKSON RIVER - MOWREY"S VERSION.
BY TERRY LEE CARPENTER AND PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
PRO BONO PUBLICO - PRIVATELY PUBLISHED, DOVER, OHIO, 1997.
BY PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
No further information is known.
NOTE: A "?" is marked with this person.  Could he be a grandchild instead of a
son? OR from another line?  YES!!!  THE CARPENTER-ZIMMERMAN LINE!

NOTE:     !!!!!!!
>From: CrpntrT@aol.com(Terry L. Carpenter)
>Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:05:16 -0500 (EST)
>To: jcarp45@sover.net  (John L. Carpenter of NH)
>Subject: Re:  Re: Carpenter,Joseph;b. 1760 b.p. ?; Residence VA>OH
>Hi John,
>This is one of those lines that somebody stuck in under Solomon without doing
>enough research.  This Joseph is completely unrelated to Solomon, or Joseph
>of Botetourt.  This Joseph comes from a German line.  He's a son of John and
>Drusilla (Tomlinson) Carpenter.  The line and its history back to John, who
>immigrated from Germany, is well documented in the book "A Carpenter
>Genealogy" by Lyle Sharp and Frances Stoner, published in 1996, 724 pages.
> The book is thoroughly documented and should be studied by every serious
>researcher of southern Carpenters to make sure they've got the whole story on
>all the Carpenter families that crossed paths in the southern states in the
>early days, and as a great example of top quality genealogical research.
> Lyle and Frances are very careful researchers who did a true service for
>Carpenter researchers everywhere by doing such a great job on this book.
>
>Regards,
>
>Terry
>Subject: Re: Robert Carpenter  1763 - aft 1850  -  30 Mar. 1998
>
>
>The Joseph that married Sina Gillespie was Robert's brother.
>He was b. 20 Feb 1771 and d. Feb 1849.  I have listed as children of John
(ZIMMERMAN) CARPENTER and Druscilla TOMLINSON:  John b. abt 1762  d,1832/33
>            Robert b. 1763  d. Feb 1850
>            Anna  b. abt 1766  d. aft 1850 m.Thomas DAILEY
>            Daniel  b. abt 1769
>            Joseph  b. Feb 20,1771  d. 1849 m.Sina GILLESPIE
>            Thomas  b.   d.
>
>Terry


677. Isaac Carpenter

Might be Isaac had a nickname of Jesse?  Possible duplicate?
continued ...
Children of RUBEN CARPENTER and LOUISE GOODWIN are:
18.
i.
JOHN AUGUSTA7 CARPENTER, b. April 14, 1875, Gilmer ,Upshur, TX.; d. June 10,
1958, Gilmer ,Upshur, TX..
ii.
SALLIE CARPENTER, b. January 12, 1877, Gilmer ,Upshur, TX.; d. May 14, 1944,
Gilmer ,Upshur, TX.; m. WILEY B. GOLDMAN, December 11, 1910, Gilmer ,Upshur,
TX..
iii.
ROBERT JACKSON CARPENTER, b. December 20, 1879, Gilmer ,Upshur, TX.; d. October
16, 1956; m. MARY ELLA WIMS.
iv.
CHARLCIE CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1881, Gilmer ,Upshur, TX.; d. 1944; m. (1) JAMES
GREEN MALONEY; m. (2) WILLIE B. STRACENER, September 24, 1904.
v.
KATTIE CARPENTER, b. April 20, 1885, Gilmer ,Upshur, TX.; d. September 23,
1934; m. WALTER L. COOK, September 16, 1914.
vi.
EMILY CORNELIA CARPENTER, b. May 24, 1888, Gilmer ,Upshur, TX.; d. May 16,
1976; m. BILLY HILL, February 03, 1910.
vii.
EULA BELL CARPENTER, b. March 17, 1890; m. ELMER STRACENER, October 08, 1904.
viii.
JAMES LESTER CARPENTER, b. May 31, 1895, Gilmer ,Upshur, TX.; d. June 27, 1974;
m. ROSA KATHERENE FIELDEN.
ix.
LEONA CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1897.
x.
ROY CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1899.
xi.
SAMUEL CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1902.
Generation No. 6
15.  MARY ANN7 CARPENTER (JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3,
SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born May 28, 1841 in Henry (Walton) Co.,
GA, and died February 02, 1878 in Clay Co, Alabama.  She married JASPER PONDER
1856.
Notes for MARY ANN CARPENTER:
Sallie's daughter, Mary Ann is buried in the "old" Macedonia Cemetary.
Notes for JASPER PONDER:
Buried in Old Macedonia Cemetary w/ Lucy and Jasper
Child of MARY CARPENTER and JASPER PONDER is:
i.
LUCY M8 PONDER, b. July 15, 1867, Clay Co, Alabama; d. August 13, 1869.
Notes for LUCY M PONDER:
Sallie's grandaughter Lucy is buried in the "old" Macedonia Cemetary.
16.  ZACHARIAH THOMAS7 CARPENTER (JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS
"JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born March 25, 1848 in Henry
(Walton) Co., GA, and died August 10, 1908 in Lineville, Clay Co, Alabama.  He
married MATTIE JOHNSON.
Notes for ZACHARIAH THOMAS CARPENTER:
Zack is buried at the Macedonia Church.
Notes for MATTIE JOHNSON:
Mattie was listed in the 1920 census as head of household and daughter,
Beatrice age 35 single, lived with her. She listed her parents place of birth
as United States.
*Mattie died in Lineville and is buried at the Macedonia Church.
There is a Johnson family on 1850 ALA Choctaw Census :
  Johnsonn, C  #168
  Johnson, David b. 1823 a planter SC #179
  Demiris b 1811 SC
  * Martha b. 1833 SC  , Caroline b. 1837 AL , Darious b. 1840 AL ,
    Lafayett b. 1842 AL, Amanda A. b 1845 AL ,  A.D. feale b 1847 AL
There is a family on 1850 ALA Census:
  N. Johnson  b. 1810 NC #169
  M.C. 1838  AL,  M.E. b 1840 AL
There are families in 1850 ALA Census:
  Charles Johnson 26 VA
  m. Nnancy           21  MS
  Mary Johnson  54 NC
  m. Johnn D. Williams 50 NNC  Bap Minister
  MARTHA 19 VA
  James Johnson 40 England  laborer
  John Johnson 49 SC farmer #900
  m. Gracy 49 SC
  MARTHA age 12 AL
  Oliver Johnson 40 SC
  and Lilly Ann 30 GA
  MARY 5 AL
  James Johnson 65 VA  Meth. Minister #300
  m. Oliph  61 NC
  Thomas Johnson 25 GA
  w/ Sarah               70 VA
Children of ZACHARIAH CARPENTER and MATTIE JOHNSON are:
i.
EVAN8 CARPENTER, b. 1868-1880, Lineville, Clay Co, Alabama; d. Unknown,
Unknown; m. CARRIE.

ii.
LEE CARPENTER, b. 1868-1880, Lineville, Alabama; d. Unknown, Unknown.

iii.
TOM CARPENTER, b. 1868-1880, Lineville, Alabama; d. Unknown, Unknown.

iv.
OSCAR CARPENTER, b. 1868-1880, Lineville, Alabama; d. Unknown, Unknown; m.
CARRIE.

v.
GROVER CARPENTER, b. 1868-1880, Lineville, Alabama; d. Unknown, Unknown.

19.
vi.
JOHN WARREN CARPENTER, b. May 01, 1871, Ashland, Alabama; d. January 23, 1941,
Talledega, Alabama.

vii.
ROBERT H. CARPENTER, b. March 08, 1873, Lineville, Alabama; d. July 12, 1897,
Lineville, Alabama.

viii.
BEATRICE CARPENTER, b. 1885, Lineville, Alabama; d. Unknown, Unknown.

Notes for BEATRICE CARPENTER:
In the 1920 census Beatrice was listed as single and 35 yrs old living with her
mother, Mattie.  Mattie was listed as head of household.

17.  JAMES WARREN7 CARPENTER , JR. (JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4,
THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born May 30, 1856 in
Clay Co, Alabama, and died August 07, 1913 in Unknown.  He married (1) CALLIE
WHITE.  He married (2) MARY ELIZABETH RAY December 20, 1877.

Children of JAMES CARPENTER and MARY RAY are:

i.
CHILD 38 CARPENTER, b. 1874-1890.

ii.
CHILD 4 CARPENTER, b. 1874-1890.

iii.
CHILD 5 CARPENTER, b. 1874-1890.

iv.
CHILD 6 CARPENTER, b. 1874-1890.

v.
CHILD 7 CARPENTER, b. 1874-1890.

vi.
CHILD 8 CARPENTER, b. 1874-1890.

vii.
CHILD 9 CARPENTER, b. 1874-1890.

viii.
CHILD 10 CARPENTER, b. 1874-1890.

ix.
CHILD 11 CARPENTER, b. 1874-1890.

x.
CHILD 12 CARPENTER, b. 1874-1890.

xi.
CHILD 13 CARPENTER, b. 1874-1890.

20.
xii.
DERA GENEVA CARPENTER, b. June 07, 1900, Unknown; d. September 09, 1986,
Unknown.

18.  JOHN AUGUSTA7 CARPENTER (RUBEN (M.J.)6, JOHN AUGUSTA5, RUEBEN LEE4,
THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born April 14, 1875 in
Gilmer ,Upshur, TX., and died June 10, 1958 in Gilmer ,Upshur, TX..  He married
MARY EMMER COOK December 02, 1896 in Gilmer ,Upshur, TX., daughter of JAMES
COOK and MARY POOVEY.

Children of JOHN CARPENTER and MARY COOK are:

i.
LENA BESSIE8 CARPENTER, b. June 20, 1898, Gilmer,Upsher,TX; d. May 29, 1968,
Gilmer,Upsher,TX; m. EARLY CHESTON BISHOP, May 06, 1917, Gilmer,Upsher,TX.

ii.
WINNIE CORNELIA CARPENTER, b. November 15, 1900, Gilmer,Upsher,TX; d. April 15,
1965.

iii.
3 CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1903, Gilmer,Upsher,TX; d. Aft. 1978.

iv.
GUSSIE MAY CARPENTER, b. July 21, 1905, Gilmer,Upsher,TX; d. February 28, 1979.

v.
EURA LOUISE CARPENTER, b. July 03, 1910, Gilmer,Upsher,TX; d. November 25,
1962.

Generation No. 7

19.  JOHN WARREN8 CARPENTER (ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN
LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born May 01, 1871
in Ashland, Alabama, and died January 23, 1941 in Talledega, Alabama.  He
married IRENA VIOLA DEAN December 10, 1890 in Lineville, Alabama.
Notes for IRENA VIOLA DEAN:
Irene born 1872 AL  d. 9-2-1958 Talledega AL
 her mother was L.E. LACY

In Butler Co. AL "May" Cemetary
  Lula Binion Dean  b 7-20-1887 to 8-28-1970

ALA Civil War Musterroll Lists:
 1. James A. Lacy  15 (b. 1847) of Monroe Co, ALA  36th Infantry captured at
                             Missionary Ridge. Farmer
  2. Richard Dean  private Madison Co.,  -SC Continnentels- b. 1755 age 75
  3. John Deane SR.  Clark Co. Sgt of Artillary -VA Contin'l-
                             VA ST TROOPERS age 75

In the 1850 ALA COOSA Census:
  Obediah E. Lacy  32 yrs  TN
  m. Elizabeth Fitzgerald

  James Dean  32 yrs SC farmer
  m. Elizabeth (or is it his daugher ?) SC
  Mary, Sarah, John 5, William 3, Susan

Children of JOHN CARPENTER and IRENA DEAN are:
21.
i.
CHARLIE THOMAS9 CARPENTER, b. September 30, 1892, Ashland, Alabama; d. November
16, 1956, Talledega, Alabama.
22.
ii.
JOHN BARNEY CARPENTER, b. January 15, 1894, Clay Co, Alabama; d. May 30, 1981,
Hawthorne, California.

iii.
LACIE CARPENTER, b. August 08, 1895, Clay Co, Alabama; d. December 19, 1972,
Alabama; m. J.A. HAYNES.

iv.
SALLIE IBERTA CARPENTER, b. April 26, 1897, Clay Co, Alabama; d. Unknown,
Alabama; m. DOCK ESTES HAYES.

v.
CECIL CARPENTER, b. December 22, 1898, Clay Co, Alabama; d. Abt. 1982, Alabama;
m. MAUDIE WATTS.

23.
vi.
AUTHER CARPENTER, b. August 11, 1901, Clay Co, Alabama; d. September 05, 1968,
Alabama.

vii.
OLEN CARPENTER, b. August 26, 1902, Clay Co, Alabama; d. January 01, 1903.

viii.
LESSIE CARPENTER, b. November 28, 1907, Clay Co, Alabama; d. Abt. 1987,
Alabama; m. HOMER HAMPTON.

ix.
EULA CARPENTER, b. 1910, Clay Co, Alabama; d. Unknown, Unknown; m. (1) WYATT
HALLMARK; m. (2) ROGER BRADLEY.

24.
x.
NOBIE EULA CARPENTER, b. 1912, Clay Co, Alabama.

xi.
ROY SIM CARPENTER, b. August 29, 1914, Clay Co, Alabama; d. Abt. 1985, Alabama;
m. DORIS CANADA.

xii.
ZACKIE CARPENTER, b. October 06, 1916, Clay Co, Alabama; d. January 01, 1983,
Alabama; m. NADIE FORBUS.

20.  DERA GENEVA8 CARPENTER (JAMES WARREN7, JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN
LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born June 07, 1900
in Unknown, and died September 09, 1986 in Unknown.  She married WILLIAM HENRY
BELL December 27, 1917.

Children of DERA CARPENTER and WILLIAM BELL are:

i.
JAMES WILLIAM9 BELL, b. November 18, 1918.

25.
ii.
RUBY AILEEN BELL, b. December 08, 1920, Unknown.
26.
iii.
HENRY THURSTON BELL, b. March 19, 1924, Unknown.

Generation No. 8

21.  CHARLIE THOMAS9 CARPENTER (JOHN WARREN8, ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES
WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES,
WILLIAM1) was born September 30, 1892 in Ashland, Alabama, and died November
16, 1956 in Talledega, Alabama.  He married ELEANOR MAUDE WARD March 05, 1910
in Ashland, ALA.

Notes for CHARLIE THOMAS CARPENTER:
Buried in Macedonia Cemetary

Children of CHARLIE CARPENTER and ELEANOR WARD are:
27.
i.
ETHEL EUDELL10 CARPENTER, b. 1910, Talledega, Alabama; d. July 03, 1995,
Sylacauga, Alabama.
28.
ii.
CHARLES ONEAL CARPENTER, b. November 09, 1913, Old Town, Alabama.
29.
iii.
SARA CARPENTER, b. 1917, Alabama.
30.
iv.
MARY NELL CARPENTER, b. 1920, Alabama.
31.
v.
LENA MAE CARPENTER, b. 1922, Alabama.
32.
vi.
EVELYN CARPENTER, b. 1927, Lineville, Alabama; d. Unknown, Unknown.

22.  JOHN BARNEY9 CARPENTER (JOHN WARREN8, ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6,
THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was
born January 15, 1894 in Clay Co, Alabama, and died May 30, 1981 in Hawthorne,
California.  He married MABEL VERA CRUISE July 05, 1914 in La Grange, Georgia.

Notes for JOHN BARNEY CARPENTER:
"Papa" (as I called him) was listed in the 1920 Clay Co Census at age 25.
Occupation was crushing operator at the graphite mill.  Nanny was 22.  Fred was
4 yrs 6 mos.
Aunt Lillian Patterson's family is listed on the same page as well as Papa's
great grandmother Mattie and his great aunt Beatrice.

Children of JOHN CARPENTER and MABEL CRUISE are:
33.
i.
JOHN FRED10 CARPENTER, b. 1915, Clay Co, Alabama; d. December 1996, Clay Co,
Alabama.

ii.
CLARK AVERY CARPENTER, b. 1917, Clay Co, Alabama; d. 1919, Clay Co, Alabama.

iii.
JAMES BARNETT CARPENTER, b. 1919, Clay Co, Alabama; d. February 10, 1919, Clay
Co, Alabama.

iv.
ALBERT DEAN CARPENTER, b. 1923, Clay Co, Alabama; d. June 25, 1923, Clay Co,
Alabama.

v.
TWINS CARPENTER, b. 1924, Clay Co, Alabama; d. 1924, ( same day as birth) Clay
Co, Alabama.

34.
vi.
LAMAR WATSON CARPENTER, b. 1926, Anniston, Alabama.

vii.
TWINSS CARPENTER, b. 1929, Clay Co, Alabama; d. 1929, Clay Co, Alabama.

23.  AUTHER9 CARPENTER (JOHN WARREN8, ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6,
THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was
born August 11, 1901 in Clay Co, Alabama, and died September 05, 1968 in
Alabama.  He married BULAH ANNIE PETTUS.

Notes for AUTHER CARPENTER:
For many years Authur's family lived on Coffee Street.  Lamar Carpenter and
family visited them around 1962.

Children of AUTHER CARPENTER and BULAH PETTUS are:
35.
i.
JACQUILYN10 CARPENTER, b. 1934, Talledega, Alabama.

ii.
AUTHUR DONALD CARPENTER, b. 1940, Talledega, Alabama.

36.
iii.
WAYNE CARPENTER, b. 1944, Talledega, Alabama.

iv.
JIMMY CARPENTER, b. 1949, Talledega, Alabama; m. JIMMYS WIFE.

Notes for JIMMY CARPENTER:
Lives in Talladega

24.  NOBIE EULA9 CARPENTER (JOHN WARREN8, ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6,
THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was
born 1912 in Clay Co, Alabama.  She married HOWARD HALLMARK.

Notes for NOBIE EULA CARPENTER:
As of May 10, 1997 Aunt Nobie is still living in Anniston or Huntsville, Ala.

Children of NOBIE CARPENTER and HOWARD HALLMARK are:

i.
PATRICIA10 HALLMARK, b. Abt. 1933, ALABAMA; m. MC CULLY.

Notes for PATRICIA HALLMARK:
Living in Talledega, ALA/  Went to school in Montgomery where she met and
married her husband.

ii.
GINNY SUE HALLMARK, b. Abt. 1939, ALABAMA; m. GERNEY.

iii.
CHARLES JR. HALLMARK, b. Abt. 1941, ALABAMA; m. (1) MARLA; m. (2) SOMEONE
CARPENTER-STEWART.

Notes for CHARLES JR. HALLMARK:
Aunt Nobie says that Charles JR. has had open surgery, his spleen removec and
has diabetes and MS but looks great and gets around well.  He is retired.

25.  RUBY AILEEN9 BELL (DERA GENEVA8 CARPENTER, JAMES WARREN7, JAMES WARREN6,
THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was
born December 08, 1920 in Unknown.  She married WILLIAM IVERT ELLIOTT December
10, 1939.

Children of RUBY BELL and WILLIAM ELLIOTT are:
37.
i.
GAIL10 ELLIOTT, b. August 20, 1942, Unknn.
38.
ii.
MELBA ELLIOTT, b. August 01, 1949, Unknown.

26.  HENRY THURSTON9 BELL (DERA GENEVA8 CARPENTER, JAMES WARREN7, JAMES
WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES,
WILLIAM1) was born March 19, 1924 in Unknown.  He married MARY COLEMAN.

Child of HENRY BELL and MARY COLEMAN is:
39.
i.
DONNA10 BELL, b. July 22, 1949, Unknown.

Generation No. 9

27.  ETHEL EUDELL10 CARPENTER (CHARLIE THOMAS9, JOHN WARREN8, ZACHARIAH
THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2
HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born 1910 in Talledega, Alabama, and died July 03, 1995
in Sylacauga, Alabama.  She married CARL SPRAYBERRY.

Children of ETHEL CARPENTER and CARL SPRAYBERRY are:

i.
CHARLES11 SPRAYBERRY, b. 1929.

ii.
JOE NEAL SPRAYBERRY, b. 1930.

iii.
HARVEY GLEN SPRAYBERRY, b. 1936.

iv.
ROBERT SPRAYBERRY, b. 1946.

28.  CHARLES ONEAL10 CARPENTER (CHARLIE THOMAS9, JOHN WARREN8, ZACHARIAH
THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2
HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born November 09, 1913 in Old Town, Alabama.  He married
INEZ ITALINE GROGAN.

Children of CHARLES CARPENTER and INEZ GROGAN are:

i.
ETHEL MAE11 CARPENTER, b. 1933.

40.
ii.
RICHARD ONEAL CARPENTER, b. 1938, Opelika, Alabama.

iii.
JERRY WAYNE CARPENTER, b. 1945, Birmingham Al; d. May 18, 1979, Ft. Meyers,
FLA; m. BETTY SUE GARRETT.

29.  SARA10 CARPENTER (CHARLIE THOMAS9, JOHN WARREN8, ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES
WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES,
WILLIAM1) was born 1917 in Alabama.  She married OPAL THOMAS CLARK.

Children of SARA CARPENTER and OPAL CLARK are:
41.
i.
JANICE MERLE11 CLARK, b. 1943, Talledega, Alabama.
42.
ii.
GLENDA ANN CLARK, b. 1948, Talledega, Alabama.
43.
iii.
SUSAN CLARK, b. 1951, Talledega, Alabama.

30.  MARY NELL10 CARPENTER (CHARLIE THOMAS9, JOHN WARREN8, ZACHARIAH THOMAS7,
JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES,
WILLIAM1) was born 1920 in Alabama.  She married JIMMY ROWE SMITH.

Children of MARY CARPENTER and JIMMY SMITH are:
44.
i.
FAYE11 SMITH, b. 1942, Talledega, Alabama.
45.
ii.
STEPHEN NOAH SMITH, b. 1944, Talledega, Alabama.
46.
iii.
SANDRA NELL SMITH, b. 1946, Talledega, Alabama.

31.  LENA MAE10 CARPENTER (CHARLIE THOMAS9, JOHN WARREN8, ZACHARIAH THOMAS7,
JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES,
WILLIAM1) was born 1922 in Alabama.  She married (1) BILLY SMITH.  She married
(2) CRAD LAVERN HAYES.

Children of LENA CARPENTER and BILLY SMITH are:
47.
i.
BILLIE MAUREEN11 SMITH, b. 1940, Talledega, Alabama.
48.
ii.
RONALD STEPHEN SMITH, b. 1943, Talledega, Alabama.
49.
iii.
THOMAS DALE SMITH, b. 1946, Unknown.

32.  EVELYN10 CARPENTER (CHARLIE THOMAS9, JOHN WARREN8, ZACHARIAH THOMAS7,
JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES,
WILLIAM1) was born 1927 in Lineville, Alabama, and died Unknown in Unknown.
She married JESSE TERRY BEVERLY.

Children of EVELYN CARPENTER and JESSE BEVERLY are:
....     continued on brother Benjamin's note field ...


678. Nathan Possibly Carpenter

Was this person read wrong in records, and should have been "Nancy"?
Possible Duplicate?


679. Nicholas Possibly Carpenter

Possible grandchild instead of son as listed in the AF?


680. Benjamin Carpenter

This Benjamin is probably a duplicate or should be a grandchild.

.... continued ....

Children of EVELYN CARPENTER and JESSE BEVERLY are:
50.
i.
TERRY ROBIN11 BEVERLY, b. 1950, Talledega, Alabama.

ii.
RONDA BEVERLY, b. 1957; m. ROBERT DONALD JONES.

33.  JOHN FRED10 CARPENTER (JOHN BARNEY9, JOHN WARREN8, ZACHARIAH THOMAS7,
JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES,
WILLIAM1) was born 1915 in Clay Co, Alabama, and died December 1996 in Clay Co,
Alabama.  He married (1) KATHERINE Abt. 1945 in Unknown.  He married (2)
LILLIAN PATTERSON September 28, 1948 in California.

Notes for JOHN FRED CARPENTER:
Uncle Fred lived in Hawthorne, Calif. after the war.  He was in the Army.  He
married a lady named Katherine Smith.   They had a son named Charles.
Katherine left Fred for another man and left Charles with Fred.  Fred's Mom and
Dad (Barney and Mabel) took care of the baby for over a year and then Katherine
came and took him back.  She took him to Fla.  Fred then  married aunt Lil.  He
met her while staying wiht Aunt Nobie.  They never had any children.  Fred
worked for a manufacturing company until just before he was ready to retire the
plant closed down. He and Lil moved back to Lineville, Ala.  Uncle Fred died
there.  My "Unca Fred" always made me laugh.  He was a member of the Garfield
Church in Clay Co., ALA.

Notes for KATHERINE:
Katherine left son Charles with Carpenter grandparents for about a year then
took him to FLA.

Child of JOHN CARPENTER and LILLIAN PATTERSON is:

i.
CHARLES11 CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1946.

Notes for CHARLES CARPENTER:
Charles lived with his mother in FLA.

34.  LAMAR WATSON10 CARPENTER (JOHN BARNEY9, JOHN WARREN8, ZACHARIAH THOMAS7,
JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES,
WILLIAM1) was born 1926 in Anniston, Alabama.  He married DOROTHY DELORES
BRAMLETT August 28, 1948 in Inglewood, California, daughter of CLIFFORD
BRAMLETT and FLORENCE COOPER.

Children of LAMAR CARPENTER and DOROTHY BRAMLETT are:
51.
i.
DONNA KAY11 CARPENTER, b. 1949, Inglewood, California.
52.
ii.
PAMELA SUE CARPENTER, b. 1950, Inglewood, California.
53.
iii.
JERRY WAYNE CARPENTER, b. 1956, Inglewood, California.

35.  JACQUILYN10 CARPENTER (AUTHER9, JOHN WARREN8, ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES
WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES,
WILLIAM1) was born 1934 in Talledega, Alabama.  She married GENE FREEMAN.

Notes for JACQUILYN CARPENTER:
Lives in Talledega

Children of JACQUILYN CARPENTER and GENE FREEMAN are:
54.
i.
SON 111 FREEMAN, b. Abt. 1954, NC.

ii.
SON 2 FREEMAN, b. Abt. 1956, GA.

36.  WAYNE10 CARPENTER (AUTHER9, JOHN WARREN8, ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES
WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES,
WILLIAM1) was born 1944 in Talledega, Alabama.  He married BRIDGETTE.

Notes for WAYNE CARPENTER:
Lives in Nashville

Child of WAYNE CARPENTER and BRIDGETTE is:

i.
BOBBY11 CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1964.

37.  GAIL10 ELLIOTT (RUBY AILEEN9 BELL, DERA GENEVA8 CARPENTER, JAMES WARREN7,
JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES,
WILLIAM1) was born August 20, 1942 in Unknn.  She married HARRELL TUCKER
January 02, 1961.

Notes for GAIL ELLIOTT:
Gail and Donna contacted each other on the internet along with Don Carpenter
and Richard Carpenter.  April 9, 1997 was the day I (Donna) was contacted.
What a surprise to find cousins on the anniversary of my Grandma Carpenter's
birth!

Child of GAIL ELLIOTT and HARRELL TUCKER is:

i.
GARRY WAYNE11 TUCKER, b. August 02, 1962.

38.  MELBA10 ELLIOTT (RUBY AILEEN9 BELL, DERA GENEVA8 CARPENTER, JAMES
WARREN7, JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2
HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born August 01, 1949 in Unknown.  She married VAN COLLINS
III.

Children of MELBA ELLIOTT and VAN COLLINS are:

i.
VAN11 COLLINS IV, b. January 21, 1970.

ii.
CLEVELAND ELLIOTT COLLINS, b. October 05, 1973.

39.  DONNA10 BELL (HENRY THURSTON9, DERA GENEVA8 CARPENTER, JAMES WARREN7,
JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES,
WILLIAM1) was born July 22, 1949 in Unknown.  She married HANSEL DAVIE COLLINS
, JR..

Children of DONNA BELL and HANSEL COLLINS are:

i.
HANSEL DAVID11 COLLINS III, b. April 29, 1971.

ii.
ANDREW COLEMAN COLLINS, b. Abt. 1973.

Generation No. 10

40.  RICHARD ONEAL11 CARPENTER (CHARLES ONEAL10, CHARLIE THOMAS9, JOHN
WARREN8, ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS
"JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born 1938 in Opelika, Alabama.
He married BARBARA ANN STOKES.

Children of RICHARD CARPENTER and BARBARA STOKES are:

i.
CYNTHIA LYNN12 CARPENTER, b. 1958, Jacksonville, Fla.

55.
ii.
SANDY LEE CARPENTER, b. 1959, Brunswick, GA.
56.
iii.
WENDY SUE CARPENTER, b. 1965, Millington, Tenn.

41.  JANICE MERLE11 CLARK (SARA10 CARPENTER, CHARLIE THOMAS9, JOHN WARREN8,
ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA
OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born 1943 in Talledega, Alabama.  She married
THOMAS DWIGHT GRIMES.

Children of JANICE CLARK and THOMAS GRIMES are:

i.
JASON PAUL12 GRIMES, b. 1968.

ii.
JUSTIN CLARK GRIMES, b. 1972.

iii.
CLINT THOMAS GRIMES, b. 1978.

42.  GLENDA ANN11 CLARK (SARA10 CARPENTER, CHARLIE THOMAS9, JOHN WARREN8,
ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA
OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born 1948 in Talledega, Alabama.  She married
THOMAS MILTON STEPHENS.

Children of GLENDA CLARK and THOMAS STEPHENS are:

i.
DAVID THOMAS12 STEPHENS, b. 1977.

ii.
DANIEL STEPHENS STEPHENS, b. 1980.

43.  SUSAN11 CLARK (SARA10 CARPENTER, CHARLIE THOMAS9, JOHN WARREN8, ZACHARIAH
THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2
HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born 1951 in Talledega, Alabama.  She married NORMAN
LUTHUR BURTON.

Children of SUSAN CLARK and NORMAN BURTON are:

i.
BUFFY BENNETTA12 BURTON, b. 1979.

ii.
CELIA ROSE BURTON, b. 1981.

iii.
THADDEUS JUDSON BURTON, b. 1986.

44.  FAYE11 SMITH (MARY NELL10 CARPENTER, CHARLIE THOMAS9, JOHN WARREN8,
ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA
OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born 1942 in Talledega, Alabama.  She married
TOLVA LUNDFORD HARMON.

Children of FAYE SMITH and TOLVA HARMON are:

i.
BEVERLY BOUVIER12 HARMON, b. 1964.

ii.
TOLVA LUNDFORD JR HARMON, b. 1967.

45.  STEPHEN NOAH11 SMITH (MARY NELL10 CARPENTER, CHARLIE THOMAS9, JOHN
WARREN8, ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS
"JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born 1944 in Talledega,
Alabama.  He married JUDY ANN DTUDDARD.

Children of STEPHEN SMITH and JUDY DTUDDARD are:

i.
STEPHEN NOAH JR12 SMITH, b. 1967.

ii.
STEPHANIEL LYNN SMITH, b. 1969.

46.  SANDRA NELL11 SMITH (MARY NELL10 CARPENTER, CHARLIE THOMAS9, JOHN
WARREN8, ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS
"JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born 1946 in Talledega,
Alabama.  She married ALLEN DAVIS.

Children of SANDRA SMITH and ALLEN DAVIS are:

i.
MIKE12 DAVIS, b. 1967.

ii.
JENNIFER DAVIS, b. 1972.

47.  BILLIE MAUREEN11 SMITH (LENA MAE10 CARPENTER, CHARLIE THOMAS9, JOHN
WARREN8, ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS
"JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born 1940 in Talledega,
Alabama.  She married JIM HAROLD GALLOPS.

Children of BILLIE SMITH and JIM GALLOPS are:

i.
KIMBERLY RENEE12 GALLOPS, b. 1962.

ii.
GORDON SCOTT GALLOPS, b. 1964.

48.  RONALD STEPHEN11 SMITH (LENA MAE10 CARPENTER, CHARLIE THOMAS9, JOHN
WARREN8, ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS
"JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born 1943 in Talledega,
Alabama.  He married BARBARA MEEK.

Children of RONALD SMITH and BARBARA MEEK are:

i.
KELLYE LEIGH12 SMITH, b. 1962-1976, Unknown.

ii.
LORI MICHELLE SMITH, b. 1962-1976, Unknown.

iii.
SAMUEL ANDREW SMITH, b. 1977, Unknown.

49.  THOMAS DALE11 SMITH (LENA MAE10 CARPENTER, CHARLIE THOMAS9, JOHN WARREN8,
ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA
OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born 1946 in Unknown.  He married EARNESTINE
TEENIE.

Children of THOMAS SMITH and EARNESTINE TEENIE are:

i.
MICHAEL TODD12 SMITH, b. 1968.

ii.
DAPHNE JILL SMITH, b. 1973.

50.  TERRY ROBIN11 BEVERLY (EVELYN10 CARPENTER, CHARLIE THOMAS9, JOHN WARREN8,
ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA
OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born 1950 in Talledega, Alabama.  He married
CONNIE LYNN PARNELL.

Children of TERRY BEVERLY and CONNIE PARNELL are:

i.
PATRICK TERRY12 BEVERLY, b. 1980, Anniston, Calhoun Co., Alabama.

ii.
JAMIE LEE BEVERLY, b. 1982, Anniston, Calhoun Co., Alabama.

51.  DONNA KAY11 CARPENTER (LAMAR WATSON10, JOHN BARNEY9, JOHN WARREN8,
ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA
OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born 1949 in Inglewood, California.  She met
(1) LARRY A STACY , JR..  She married (2) ROBERT MINCEMEYER October 04, 1967 in
Anaheim, California.  She married (3) OSCAR BRANCHE SHEPARD 1974 in Las Vegas,
Nevada.  She met (4) ROGER ALAN JOHNSON Aft. 1996 in Phoenix, Az.

Notes for DONNA KAY CARPENTER:
Donna is the author of this family tree.  Most of information came from
relatives, Bibles, cousins Gail Tucker (nee Elliott), Richard Carpenter.
Anything prior to Thomas Carpenter b. abt 1790 was contributed by John DeMott.
AVERY information was contributed by Gail and cousin Len Avera Jr.

Child of DONNA CARPENTER and ROBERT MINCEMEYER is:
57.
i.
DAVID JOHN12 MINCEMEYER, b. 1968, Anaheim, California.

Child of DONNA CARPENTER and OSCAR SHEPARD is:
58.
ii.
*DAMON CHRISTOPHER12 SHEPARD, b. 1975, Anaheim, California.

52.  PAMELA SUE11 CARPENTER (LAMAR WATSON10, JOHN BARNEY9, JOHN WARREN8,
ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA
OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born 1950 in Inglewood, California.  She
married (1) CRAIG PALUMBO in Fullerton, California.  She married (2) TERRY
STEWART 1969 in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Child of PAMELA CARPENTER and CRAIG PALUMBO is:

i.
ZACHARY12 PALUMBO, b. 1975, Anaheim, California.

53.  JERRY WAYNE11 CARPENTER (LAMAR WATSON10, JOHN BARNEY9, JOHN WARREN8,
ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA
OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born 1956 in Inglewood, California.  He
married PATSY OROZCO December 1982 in Las Vegas, Nevada, daughter of VALENTINO
OROZCO and ELIZABETH.

Children of JERRY CARPENTER and PATSY OROZCO are:

i.
SHANNON12 CARPENTER, b. 1983, Anaheim, California.

ii.
ERIN CARPENTER, b. 1986, Anaheim, California.

54.  SON 111 FREEMAN (JACQUILYN10 CARPENTER, AUTHER9, JOHN WARREN8, ZACHARIAH
THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2
HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born Abt. 1954 in NC.  He married WIFE OF SON 1 FREEMAN.

Child of SON FREEMAN and WIFE FREEMAN is:

i.
JACKIES GRANDSON12 FREEMAN, b. Abt. 1974.

Generation No. 11

55.  SANDY LEE12 CARPENTER (RICHARD ONEAL11, CHARLES ONEAL10, CHARLIE THOMAS9,
JOHN WARREN8, ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS
"JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born 1959 in Brunswick, GA.
She married DAVID MICHAEL STACEY.

Children of SANDY CARPENTER and DAVID STACEY are:

i.
REBEKAH GRACE13 STACEY, b. 1981.

ii.
RACHEL MARIE STACEY, b. 1983.

iii.
DAVID MICHAEL II STACEY, b. 1986.

56.  WENDY SUE12 CARPENTER (RICHARD ONEAL11, CHARLES ONEAL10, CHARLIE THOMAS9,
JOHN WARREN8, ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4, THOMAS
"JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born 1965 in Millington, Tenn.
She married WILLIAM SCOTT DANIEL.

Child of WENDY CARPENTER and WILLIAM DANIEL is:

i.
ALLISON ELIZABETH13 DANIEL, b. 1988.

57.  DAVID JOHN12 MINCEMEYER (DONNA KAY11 CARPENTER, LAMAR WATSON10, JOHN
BARNEY9, JOHN WARREN8, ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4,
THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born 1968 in Anaheim,
California.  He married JANICE SANCHEZ May 1990 in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Notes for DAVID JOHN MINCEMEYER:
David was a beautiful redhead, brown eyed boy.  David had a rough life with
custody battles for him.  He came out of it with a deep faith in God.  David
loves outdoors, time with his kids and various mind related studies.  He began
work right out of high school for a computer testing board company called,
Litronics in Costa Mesa, California where today he is the engineering manager.

Children of DAVID MINCEMEYER and JANICE SANCHEZ are:

i.
DESIREE DANIELLE13 MINCEMEYER, b. 1988, Anaheim, California.

Notes for DESIREE DANIELLE MINCEMEYER:
Desiree is lovely with dark hair and big brown eyes.  She is a straight A
student.  When she was only 3, I asked her what she saw at the zoo that day.
"Lots of people," she replied.  Desiree knows no strangers and is a very
outgoing young girl.

ii.
BRENNON SCOTT MINCEMEYER, b. 1991, Anaheim, California.

Notes for BRENNON SCOTT MINCEMEYER:
Brennon is the spitten image of his father.  Always active and always,
WHY?WHY?WHY?  Like his sister, also and A student already.

58.  *DAMON CHRISTOPHER12 SHEPARD (DONNA KAY11 CARPENTER, LAMAR WATSON10, JOHN
BARNEY9, JOHN WARREN8, ZACHARIAH THOMAS7, JAMES WARREN6, THOMAS5, RUEBEN LEE4,
THOMAS "JACK"3, SUDNA OR SUDRAH2 HUGHES, WILLIAM1) was born 1975 in Anaheim,
California.  He married SHANNON GORDON 1994 in Phoenix, Az.

Children of *DAMON SHEPARD and SHANNON GORDON are:

i.
*ANTHONY LEE-ALAN13 SHEPARD, b. 1994, Phoenix, Az.

ii.
*ABIGAIL LEIGH-ANN SHEPARD, b. 1995, Phoenix, Az.


237. William Carpenter

William was killed in a battle near the Big Bend on the Jackson River by a
Indian force of some 50 Delaware and Mingo indians.  He was the commander of
the stockade at Fort Carpenter.  He moved there (now Alleghany County, VA)
about 1746.  His son Jeremiah was taken prisoner.

SEE: Historical Sketches of Alleghany County, VA, page 11, by Gay Arret.
"The indians met Carpenter near his home and killed him and made prisoners of
Jeremiah Carpenter, a son of the slain man, and two sons of Brown and one
woman.  The indians despoiled the house and taking some horses made a rapid
retreat."  Also "A Centennial History of Alleghany County VA" by Owen F.
Morten, pages: 12, 13, 15, 17, 33, 59 and 127.

SEE: Virginia Magazine of History, Vol. 10, pages 186 to 187; The History of
Braxton County and Central West Virginia, History of the Carpenters at Fort
Carpenter, 1746 to 1949 by Mary Evelyn Harlow Carpenter; The Carpenter Family
News-Journal, Dec. 1972 in Machias, Maine;  04654 State Library of Virginia.

SEE: Annals of Bath County, VA; List of Taxables, Botetourt Co., VA.
!DEATH: 1764 per AF.  10 Oct 1763 per Bette Jeanette Butcher Topp in August
1988 in her CARPENTER CHRONICLES, Vol. 25 (1995?).
!DESCENDANTS: per Bette Jeanette Butcher Topp.

SOURCES: In addition to the above;
See "History of Clay County, WV" by Hulda Hogshed and Elva Dawson Walker, 1989.
See "Border Settlers of Northwestern Virginia" by McWhorter.
See "Charles Rogers and his Descendants" by Edwin G & Kathryn Rogers.
See "Chronicles of Border Warfare" by Withers.
See "Roane County WV Family History 1989", pages 100-104, 256, & 277.
See "Calhoun County Lines and Links", Winter issue of 1991.
See "The Descendants of John Jarvis", by Don Norman.
See "The Descendants of Thomas Cottrell", by Don Norman.
See "The Descendants of Solomon Groves", by Don Norman.
See "Carpenter Family Group Sheets", by Ella May.
See "Census Records of Braxton County, VA" for 1850, 1860, & 1870.
See "Census Records for Gilmer County, VA" for 1850.
See "Census Records for Clay County, WV" for 1860 & 1870.

BOOK: See page 36-37 of the Mowrey 1997 book. See book information
below:  This William is not listed as child in that record.
UPDATE OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE NEW ENGLAND CARPENTER FAMILY OF ENGLISH
ORIGIN - THE VIRGINIA / WEST VIRGINIA BRANCH - SOME DESCENDANTS OF JOSEPH
CARPENTER - PIONEER OF THE JACKSON RIVER - MOWREY"S VERSION.
BY TERRY LEE CARPENTER AND PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
PRO BONO PUBLICO - PRIVATELY PUBLISHED, DOVER, OHIO, 1997.
BY PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.


Pringle

NAME: not proven.


682. Benjamin Carpenter

SEE: Historical Sketches of Alleghany County, VA, page 11, by Gay Arret.
Benjamin with his brother Jeremiah moved to the Elk River where Centralia,
Braxton County, is now.  Jeremiah made a clearing in the virgin forest
and built his home with Benjamin's help, about one-fourth of a mile above
Dry Run.  Benjamin soon went back to VA, returning with a wife.
Benjamin or Ben, as he was known, built his cabin at the mouth of Holly River,
four miles below Jeremiah's home.
Many small bands of indians roamed through the wilderness, and soon their small
settlement was found.  One of the indians slipped into Benjamin's home and
killed his wife.  The indian then hid in the cabin, waiting in ambush.
Benjamin, his mother, and a niece were on the south side of the river, where
he was clearing a field and burning log heaps.  Not knowing what happened
at home, Benjamin went to the cabin to start a meal.  Another indian fired at
him from the hill and missed.  As Benjamin entered the cabin and turned to grab
his rifle mounted above the cabin door, he was shot under the arm and killed
by the indian that had scalped his wife.


Jenny

DEAT PLAC near,Elk River,Centralia,Braxton, VA
!Name might be Jenny.


239. John Augusta Carpenter

John's middle name probably Augustas.  Carpenter went south to Botetourt
County.  In Virginia by 20 Nov. 1762.
SEE: My Ancestry by Mattie Bell Carpenter, page 10.

He probably had two sons who fought with their first cousin John Carpenter,
son of Thomas, who enlisted in a Company that was from Botetourt County of
Covington, VA.  Them being Amos and Solomon.
John was determined to be "no inhabitant" in Botetourt County, VA in a tax
enumeration on 20 Nov. 1762 and may have moved to North Carolina as early as
1755.

SEE: Carpenter and Related Family Historical Journal, Vol. 5, Winter
1994/1995, Number 8, page 519, documents his service in the Revolutiion.

BOOK: See page 39 (for notes) of the Mowrey 1997 book. See book information
below:
UPDATE OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE NEW ENGLAND CARPENTER FAMILY OF ENGLISH
ORIGIN - THE VIRGINIA / WEST VIRGINIA BRANCH - SOME DESCENDANTS OF JOSEPH
CARPENTER - PIONEER OF THE JACKSON RIVER - MOWREY"S VERSION.
BY TERRY LEE CARPENTER AND PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
PRO BONO PUBLICO - PRIVATELY PUBLISHED, DOVER, OHIO, 1997.
BY PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
No family is known per the above book.

SPECULATION: Was this Thomas (b. abt. 1729) was the son of Thomas (b. abt.
1713) of Joseph Carpenter (b. 1693)?  Listed as this pending clairification.
OR was he the son of this John with spouse Elizabeth Field???????????
No proof given.
Thomas CARPENTER     Compact Disc #35     Pin #76601    Sex: M
Birth:  1728/30  Place:   Musceta Cove,Long Island,New York Colony
Death:  1728/93  Place:   Amhurst,Amhurst Co.,Va.
Parents:
Father:  John CARPENTER     Disc #35     Pin #76842
Mother:  Elizabeth FIELD     Disc #35     Pin #76599
Notes and Sources:
Notes:   None
Sources:  None
Submitter:
Lovetta Darlene QUAYLE
P.O. Box 650113 Sterling, Utah 84665


243. Jacob Carpenter

Number 94 in the book "The Carpenter Family in America" by Daniel H.
Carpenter, 1901.

SEE: Early Wills Westchester County, NY (1664-1784) by Pellettreau, 1898
Page 339.  Mentioned as executor of a will of James Wright.
Will dated 3 July 1775 and proved 20 may 1776.

WILL: Jacob's will was proved 12 Feb. 1811 says "of New Castle."  See Vol. E,
p. 126, Westbury Records.


Ruth C. Carpenter

Number 71 in the book "The Carpenter Family in America" by Daniel H. Carpenter, 1901.

DEATH: IGI conflict
Birth: 1730 Musket Cove, , Queens, New York
Death:  08 FEB 1795


244. Zophar Carpenter

Number 95 in the book "The Carpenter Family in America" by Daniel H.
Carpenter, 1901.    Zophar or Zopher in some records.

WILL: Will dated 1794 and filed in the county of Garrard which was formed in
1797. His will mentions his wife Mary, and gives 100 acres to each of his three
sons, Zenes (Zenith), Rufus and Robert Carpenter.
The Census Records of Garrard County, Kentucky Index:
1800 - Mary, widow of Zophar, Zenes Carpenter, Rufus Carpenter.
1810 - Zenith Carpenter, Rufus Carpenter, Robert Carpenter
See the Carpenter and Related Family Historical Journal, Vol. X, No. 9, page
558 for more census information!

This family line submitted by Gerald Reid Tudor of Berea, KY.
Gerald disagrees with Charles about Zophar ever as having served as a drummer
in the Revolutionary War.
Documents (Summers, in his Annals of Southwest Virginia) indicate Zophar served
as a drummer in the French and Indian Wars.  While Zophar provided beef during
war time, it does not specify which.  Gerald states there is no credible source
for this Zophar serving in the Revolutionary War.
Gerald's E-MAIL is: g2door@kyblue.com

Charles Carpenter of Pocatello, ID indicates Zophar was a drummer in
Capt. Dickerson's Rangers in Augusta County Va.  Also he has descendants not
found in other records.  Was Charles' Zophar a young man as a drummer, probably
the son of this Zophar?  The younger Zophar would have had to be deceased by
1794 when the will was written. While this would explain things, Charles
Carpenter of ID believes they are the same person.  Charles also has some
children duplicated namely Rufus and Zenith which are in BOTH families with
spouse names the same.  UNTIL FURTHER INFORMATION COMES FORTH, THE RECORD STAYS
CONFUSED AS IS. JRC 4/98.

E-MAIL:
>The earliest Carpenter to settle in Madison Co., KY was a John Carpenter who
>was more than 20 miles from where Zophar settled.  There is no record of
>their meeting.  This john died quite early and his children were named.   In
>the case of Zophar, only his three known sons were named in his will.
>Zenes(later records say Zenith and a grandson is also named Zenith), Rufus,
>and Robert.  That I have added Mary, Leah, and Rachel is due to the close
>association and residence of the parties involved.  Zenith was the bondsman
>for Leah's marriage.  Zenith married Ann Boyle, dau of Major John Boyle.
>Alexander Boyle, son of John married Mary Carpenter.  Rachel's marriage to a
>McCollum is the weakest of my deductions.  The only fact connectiing them is
>a close association with the Carpenters in Garrard Co. and a future
>marriage.    At the death of Rachel's father John Reed, Rufus was to provide
>the care and education of a David McCollum until he became of age.  This
>David's mother was a Reed and he later married one of Robert Carpenter's
>Daughters (Robert the son of Zophar)    You might also take a close look at
>the supposed births of Zophar's daughters.  The marriage bond dates are
>accurate.
>We'll talk again.
>Gerald Tudor    My Genealogy Web Site is:
>http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/t/u/d/Gerald-R-Tudor/

E-MAIL: (More) From: Gerald Tudor;
Below are some facts about Zophar.  They may help some with questions.
The first knowledge we have of Zophar is found in his father =
Robert's will.  He is listed 2nd behind his brother Jacob .  Both are =
named executors with Mary, the second wife of Robert.  Robert's will was =
proven on 7mar1751.  At the time of will abstract by Daniel Hoogland =
Carpenter, he guessed the birth of Jacob as being about  1728.  Oma =
Glasburn Robinson, reports these facts in her "David Glasburn-Virginia =
Pioneer," then guesses the birth of Zophar as being about 1730.  Will =
was proven in Westchester Co., NY.                 FACT:      =20
The Grave marker of Zophar and Mary, placed sometime after =
the death of Mary reads:  In Memory of Zophar Carpenter =
and Mary his wife.  he died Feb. 6th A.D. 1798 Aged 65 years.    She =
died Aug. 14th A.D. 1832 Aged 97 years.=20
Therefore, Zophar and Mary's birth dates are about 1733 and 1735 =
respectfully.  Zophar's will was proven in 1798, Garrard Co, KY.   The =
will is simple.  It only mentions his three sons, Zenes, Rufus, and =
Robert.  Each is willed one hundred acres.  An inventory was taken at =
Mary Carpenters later.
Augusta  Co., VA. 1755:    Zophar's name is in a list of delinquents in =
the tax levies.  This means he was in the area earlier.
1756:  He was a Drummer in Capt. Dickenson's Company in the Indian wars. =
=20
8 May 1770:  At a court held for Botetourt Co., VA.   Gopher(sic) =
Carpenter for unlawfully keeping Moses Watkin's wife.  Grand Jury =
ordered that process issue against Carpenter and several others (other =
cases) returnable at the next court.  There was no further action found =
in the Carpenter case.  (Too bad, as such a case ,  untried, leaves open =
some interested speculations as to what "unlawfully keeping" meant and =
to who?
15 May 1771:  Zophar on jury.       8Feb1773:   Zophoe Carpenter appointed =
Surveyor of the Road, in room of William Wooley, who is discharged from =
that office.
14 July 1773:  Zopher appointed Surveyor of the Road from Fort Defiance =
(Boyle's Allum Rock) and the tithables who usually wrought thereon do =
attend him.
11 Nov 1779: Ordered that Zopher Carpenter's claim be certified who acted =
in Capt. Dickenson's Company of Rangers formerly for the defense of the =
Colony as a Drummer.     13Nov1780: (note that this date was printed =
1760 in error.  This would predate any authorization for claims)   =
Ordered that it be added to the order made at Nov. court granting land =
to Zopher Carpenter for military services performed as a Drummer, due =
proof was made that he served till he was legally discharged and the =
Company disbanded, and that he is an inhabitant of this State at the =
time of the passing the Act granting land & c.
15 Aug 1783:  Zophar on Jury.   14Nov1783:  Zopher Carpenter defendant in =
Case.  Jury awarded plaintiff, John Robinson three hundred pounds, but =
plaintiff acquitted the defendant of all the damages except twenty =
pounds.  Judgement was given for twenty pounds and cost.   The above =
data taken from Summer's Annals of Southwest Virginia.   On page 1386 =
Vol. II,  Zepher Carpenter listed as Drummer under Revolutionary =
Soldiers.  (This has to be an error as no proof is found of such =
service.  It is unlikely that he served again as a Drummer).
18 Mar 1778:  Botetourt Marriages.   David Glasburn to Elizabeth =
Carpenter, daughter of Joseph and Mary Carpenter.  (later research by =
Oma Glasburn Robinson and others proves the original record to say =
Zopher instead of Joseph).
Other sources from Robinson:  1763: Zophar purchased 135 acres NW side =
of Jackson's River.   ^Oct1767:  50 acres on James River.   Furnished =
supplies to the soldiers-wheat, corn, and one time 400lbs. of beef. =
(does not say for what war).
Nov 1768:  Zophar in court due to indebtedness to Israel Christian =
incurred on the 21st of Dec1765 for one shilling six pence for three =
Jews Harps.
1789:  Michael Mallow bought of Zophar Carpenter and Mary, his wife, and =
David Glasburn and Elizabeth, his wife, 130 acres on the north side of =
Jackson's River for 275 pounds.   (Mrs. Robinson says, "before and after =
this date there are several similar references linking the names of =
......   " the above individuals).
1791:  Zophar first appears in the Madison Co., VA tax list. (This is =
one year before Madison Co. became a Kentucky County.)
Zophar's 300 acres in western Madison Co., KY, an area that soon =
became a part of the newly formed Garrard Co., came from a 400 acre =
survey for John McKenzie, assignee of Robert Espie by virture of a =
premption Feb. 19, 1780 in then Lincoln Co., VA.  On 22Nov1788, John =
McKenzie traded to John Boyle of Madison Co. 205 acres of his 400 acre =
premption to join acrage already owned by Boyle for 200 acres in Lincoln =
Co.   Although Zophar willed his sons 300 acres, it was not officially =
recorded until 6Jun1816 when John Boyle, for five hundred pounds, =
transferred the 300 acres to Zenith, Rufus, and Robert Carpenter.  Part =
of this 300 acres came from that owned by Boyle prior the the trade to =
McKenzie.  (Later, seven acres of the 300 would be claimed by the =
Ambrose Ross estate which joined to the south. This was taken into =
consideration when Rufus Carpenter had the land surveyed in 1846.
Parts of the Carpenter land has remained in descendant's =
ownership to present 1998.  About 78 acres , including the the Carpenter =
Cemetery, is owned by this compiler's daughter.   Her husband, also a =
descendant, owns another joining 10 or 13 acres.
Oma Glasburn Robinson's family tradition says that Elizabeth, daughter =
of Zophar and Mary was of Irish descent.  Since Carpenter is of English =
of French descent, then Mary must be the Irish member.  This of course =
contradicts Kentucky family tradition that Davis was Mary's maiden name. =
There is no proof of this, however, and it is supposed that earlier =
family members may have gotten families mixed up in their oral =
histories.    Case in point:   It was always reported that Rachel, wife =
of Rufus, was a McCarthy.  This was proven to be in error when it was =
discoved in Rachel's application for a pension for Rufus' service in the =
War of 1812, that her full name was Rachel Alexander Reed (later spelled =
Reid).  Also, that their marriage was on 8Mar1808.  Officials then could =
not verify the marriage as the minister did not make a return to the =
court house.
The name Davis is persistant in published genealogies as the maiden =
name for Mary.   This is partially the fault of this compiler as he fed =
the data, but with a qualifier, "no proof" which has been ignored.  In =
one case it has been reported that mary was the widow Davis, nee Coles.  =
When the author of this was asked for his source, he responded that it =
was in the Coles genealogy but could not think just where at the time.  =
Thus the misdirection continues.   Davis, may very well belong to a =
family member.   It is possible that the mother of Rachel Reed Carpenter =
was a Davis, and that the McCarthy belongs to Mary, wife of Zophar. (NO =
PROOF).
There has been much speculation as to the marriage(s) of Zophar and =
how many children he had.   Taking into account that the known daughter =
Elizabeth was many years older that those who came with Zophar to =
Kentucky, makes you wonder about the in between years.  It is a fact =
that several Carpenter children were carried away on the early Virginia =
frontier by Indians.  There is no proof that they were children of =
Zophar.   Some suggest that Zophar must have had two wives, both named =
Mary and that the second Mary was the mother of the ones who came to KY. =
Also, there has been doubt that Mary in Kentucky would have given =
birth to Zenith, Rufus, and Robert at such an advanced age.   I suggest =
the hardiness of the frontier mother made it possible once she survived =
the first births.  After all Mary lived to be 97.  It has been forwarded =
that Zophar may have married his step-mother, Mary and left for the =
Virginia frontier were his uncle Joseph Carpenter had previously gone in =
1746.   Zophar's younger siblings Rufus and Mary may have been by his =
father's second wife.  There is no further trace of these two as well as =
the other siblings, unless the Rufus who married Olive Whitcomb on =
2Mar1777 is the brother.   If Zophar married his step-mother, is it =
likely that they would name a second son Rufus and possibly a daughter =
Mary?
For the children of Zophar and Mary, they will be forth coming in =
other notes.   Gerald Tudor    4Jul1998 .
As one studies families in close geographic communities in =
frontier times it is almost certain that there will be marriages of =
neighbor's children, even where there is close kinship, first =
cousins,etc.   In the case of Zophar, he is the only Carpenter residing =
in the western portion of early Madison Co., KY until several years =
later.   There had been Carpenters who preceded Zophar in this area, but =
one was killed by the Indians and another, Solomon, made an improvement =
where John Boyle later settled, and moved on.  It is not believed that =
there was family involved.  In the eastern end of Madison Co. there was =
a John Carpenter with a family.  Like Zophar, he died prior to 1800.  =
His children were identified.  There is no proof that the two were =
related.  A descendant of John says that he came from Virginia and was =
believed to be a Rev. War soldier.  Also in the same area was an Edmund =
Carpenter who also was deceased before 1800; no further trace on him.   =
With these facts and close associations it is reasonable to believe that =
certain female Carpenters were the daughters of Zophar and Mary, =
although circumstantial in evidence.
To this compiler there is enough evidence to keep these ladies, =
Mary, Leah, and Rachel as daughters of Zophar and Mary.   Remember, in =
that day and time, daughters were often left from wills, preferring the =
male sons to inherit.  So, until further data is proven, the family is =
larger than first thought.
Gerald Reid Tudor in 1998 A.D.    g2door@kyblue.com

PICTURES: Data provided by Gerald Tudor.
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/t/u/d/Gerald-R-Tudor/
SEE: MISC PICS. RIN 5754
Zophar and Mary's marker is located on the land that he homesteaded in Garrard
Co., KY. He was born in
Westchester Co., NY and later moved to that part of Augusta Co., VA that
became Botetourt Co. He arrived in KY
1790-1791. His parents, Robert and Elizabeth were both Carpenter cousins
whose American roots were in
Providence, RI and Rehoboth, MA.


Mary Cole Davis

NAME: Last name may be DAVIS, at least according to family tradition.
See husband's notes regarding census information.
!DEATH: Death date maybe for the wife (Mary) of her son, Zophar.


699. Robert Carpenter

NOTE: This area was Kentucky county, VA before 1780. After 1780 it was
Lincoln county, VA then KY then in 1786 Madison KY Territory.  In 1792 KY
became a state. He moved to Missouri or Kansas about 1852.

He is not Robert Carpenter-20271 who is from a Zimmerman line.


246. Barsilla or Beyzuilla Carpenter

Number 97 in the book, the Carpenter Family in America by Daniel H.
Carpenter, 1901.
Family on page 118.  He was a resident of New Castle, Westchester county.
WILL: His will was proved 7 Sept. 1791.  See Westchester County Wills, Vol. B.
p. 40.  Jacob Carpenter, witness.  Except for his oldest, all were underage
(less than 21 years old).


Charity

Died aged 97 years.


702. Thomas Carpenter

Number 312 in the book, the Carpenter Family in America by Daniel H.
Carpenter, 1901.  No family listed.  Not of age (21) in 1791.
He was of Coyeman's, Columbia county.


703. Judah Carpenter

Number 313 in the book, the Carpenter Family in America by Daniel H.
Carpenter, 1901.  No family listed.  Not of age (21) in 1791.


704. Mary Carpenter

Number 314 in the book, the Carpenter Family in America by Daniel H.
Carpenter, 1901.  No family listed.  Not of age (21) in 1791.


705. Sarah Carpenter

Number 315 in the book, the Carpenter Family in America by Daniel H.
Carpenter, 1901.  No family listed.  Not of age (21) in 1791.


249. Rufus or Ruphas Carpenter

Number 100 in the book "The Carpenter Family in America" by Daniel H.
Carpenter, 1901.
A Rufus Carpenter of North Castle was wittness to will of James Meadows of
Rye, October 4, 1778 (New York Wills, VOL. 36, P. 80.) & proved 22 May 1783.
SEE: Early Wills Westchester County, NY (1664-1784) by Pellettreau, 1898
Page 354 & 355.  Mentioned as witness and as a tailor. Verfies the info above.
BURIAL: buried Cushing Cem. " Graves of Revolutionary War Patriots" vol1,
p. 156.
CENSUS: 1790  census shows 2 sons, 2 dau. under 16.
SLC Fim #0873754 item 3.

E-MAIL: 31 Dec 2000 From: "Steve Somers"
Hello,
Attached are three generations of the descendents of Rufus Carpenter.
I have been meaning to send this information for a while, so better late
than never. Most of this information came from the descendents of Rufus
Carpenter and Olive Whitcomb of Woodstock, VT through their daughter Phebe Carpenter who married Gideon French. This from the work of Duane Powers (Olive French), Marilyn Ames (Louisa French), Howard Hodgson (Phebe French), the Deem family genealogy (Martha French) and some things I (also Phebe) dug up. There are some spelling errors in the Deem and Powers material.
I hope this is useful. Other than my line, I have little backup material.
One problem I see is the hard connection between Rufus Carpenter, North
Castle, NY in 1778 and Rufus Carpenter in Woodstock, VT in 1780 plus the
particulars of his likely mother, Mary, Robert Coles Carpenter's second
wife.  Steve Somers.  Tulsa, OK.


253. Coles Carpenter

Number 103 in the Carpenter Family in America book (1901).
See page 199 to 122 for notes and family.
!BIRTH: PLACE Duck Pond(Musketa Cove) Glenn Cove ,N.Y.
Musketa Cove became Glen Cove in 1834.
!Queens county was established in 1683 and this area became Nassau county in
1898.
!Coles was a weaver.  He lived at Duck Pond until 1773 then
moved to Walton Estate (Sea Cliff).  He died on Walton Farm.  One record
indicates death in Sept. 1781.
He was a Captain of the local or county militia.

WILL: Will dated 6 April 1779.  Probated 1781 per New York Wills vol. 34, p.
228.  He came in from the field complaining of a severe pain in his head.  He
leaned his head upon his wife's arm, and in this position, unknown to her, he
passed away.  He was buried in the Coles family burial ground at "Burial Hill."


Sarah Latting

Queens county was established in 1683 and this area became Nassau county in
1898.


713. Benjamin Carpenter

Number 319 in the book, The Carpenter Family in America by Daniel H. Carpenter,
1901.
BIRTH: in Queens county because Nassau county was created in 1898.
DEATH: When about 20 years of age, in good health, robust and strong, with a
prospect of many years of usefulness, he stood a chance of taking the small pox
from a sick neighbor.  So, as was the advise of the practitioners of that day,
he was "inoculated" with the virus and taken to a lonely building to spend the
time of sickness.  BUT like many another ones so "inoculated" it brought a sure
and speedy death.  It is said that his death was one of the means of greatly
helping to put a stop to the inhuman practice of "inoculating."


716. James Carpenter

Number 322 in the book, The Carpenter Family in America by Daniel H.
Carpenter, 1901.
BIRTH: in Queens county because Nassau county was created in 1898.
New York went from a Colony to State in 1776.


717. Sarah Carpenter

Number 323 in the Daniel H. Carpenter book, 1901.
!BIRTH: in Queens county because Nassau county was created in 1898.
!New York went from a Colony to State in 1776.


255. Tamar Carpenter

Number 107 in the book "The Carpenter Family in America" by Daniel H.
Carpenter, 1901.


John Crane

Subj:
John Crane and Tamer Carpenter
Date:
99-03-08 07:27:27 EST
From:
anita_gauld@hotmail.com (Anita Gauld)
To:
AAgor@aol.com
CC:
jrcrin001@aol.com

Hi Andrew.  Greetings from Fife Lake, Michigan.

On Sun, 7 Mar 1999 you wrote:
>I have information about John Crane and Tamar Carpenter his wife.
>They are my great-grandparents X 9.  He was a captain in the
>Revolutionary War- serving under Colonel Luddington.  He built the
>first structure in Mahopac, NY- he and his wife operated an inn
>there for many years.  He was a circuit court judge for many years
>in Duchess County, NY- until Putnam County was founded.  I have
>some of his speeches and writings- as well as a Crane family tree
>that John Crane wrote at the age of 83.  He is a well known local
>figure (both for his patriotism and his eccentricity)- The Crane
>family is the oldest family in Mahopac.  He and Tamar are buried in
>the Crane family cemetary in Mahopac, NY. The Cranes were
>Presbyterians.  If you are interested in any information about his
>family tree- I would be glad to send it to you.  Because I am in
> school right now- I don't have access to it at the moment- but
>would be glad to send it when I do.