4.
John Carpenter
5.
Rueben Carpenter Sr.
10.
Elizabeth Carpenter
6.
Thomas Carpenter
Reuben, John & Thomas were listed on the 1803 GA tax roll.
In 1805 Henry, John & Thomas were listed in the Lincoln Co. Georgia Land Lottery. Upto 1838, Thomas was named in various land transactions in Henry Co. GA along with Zachariah. He put up the $1500.00 bond with Wilkes for the Harlen kids guardianship.
Books, Articles, Wills & such: See the pdf on RIN 5379 Thomas Carpenter CONNECTING.pdf - This is the Rev. B May 2012 version. Connecting Thomas Carpenter by Donna Carpenter Cuzze
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Subject: [CARPENTER] Re: Thomas & Rueben as per Carp CD
> re: RUEBEN & THOMAS CARPENTERs
>
> A few years ago, I gave my original information to John for his CD. Since
> that time, I have been able to gather and analyze the records. I
> colaborated with Terry Carpenter (authored works on Southern Carpenter
> lines) and also with Steve Martanak (reasearcher of the NC Carpenters).
>
> There seems to be some confusion over the Thomas CARPENTERS who were all
> born early 1800s. Let me see if I can clear this up. Originally a work was
> done by Ms. Ross which most folks took for granted. If one looks at the
> records recorded in Henry Co GA, you will see each time Thomas (the brother
> of James Warren Carpenter) is mentioned, he is listed as Thomas "M."
> Carpenter. His father was also a Thomas, the brother of Reuben Carpenter,
> Sr. The fathers were born circa 1776-1785. Each named a son Thomas. The
> had another brother named John. John born the same era had a son named
> Thomas also.
> RIN 31345
> 1. One was born 1800/1801 and was the son of Rueben of Edgefield SC
> (b.1776-1780). This Thomas Carpenter was in Chickasaw, MS in the 1840 &
> 1850 census. Children: Rebecca, Caroline, Lucinda & Timothy.
> 2. The other one was Thomas "M." CARPENTER of Henry County GA who was born
> 1810 and had land transactions in Henry Co GA and had a brother James Warren
> Carpenter. His father was Thomas (b. abt 1785) the brother of Reuben. This
> Thomas "M" (note only 9 yrs difference in birth from #1 Thomas of MS) went
> to Randolph Co ALA about 1835. His brother James Warren married Sarah
> Abigail HARLIN who was bonded as a child by Thomas "M"s father, Thomas
> Carpenter of Henry Co. GA.
> Children: Mary L/E, William Thomas, Elisabeth, Lucinda, James R. John W.,
> Joseph, Lewis, Martha, Zachariah, Robert A, Nathan .
>
> Luckilly, Thomas "M"s daughter, Elizabeth married John HOLLOWAY and
> descendant Bev KEY noted a Bible record.
>
> 3. The other Thomas was born about 1801 lived in Lincoln Co. GA and Coweta
> GA and was the son of John CARPENTER. This Thomas had a son named Thomas
> Washington Carpenter b. abt 1832 who went to Marion Co. ALA according to
> descendant Greg NABORS.
>
> To make things more confusing, Reuben Sr. and Thomas Sr. (the elder
> brothers) both named sons Reuben. There was Reuben Jr. who went to TX.
> There was Reuben L. Carpenter who followed his brother Thomas "M" to
> Alabama.
>
> It was "suspected" that the Thomas Carpenter b. circa 1780-85 was the son of
> Thomas "Jack" Carpenter, but NOT proven. It was suspected the same Thomas
> along with his brother Rueben Sr. were sons of Abigail JORDAN and an UNKNOWN
> Carpenter but also NOT proven.
>
> Descendants of Thomas & Reuben CARPENTER
>
> 1 CARPENTER, Zachariah? Thomas? b: Abt. 1750
> . +?, Abigail ? Jordan b: Abt. 1750
> .... 2 CARPENTER, THOMAS* b: Bet. 1775 - 1782 d: Bet. 1838 - 1845 in Henry
> Co, Georgia (?Seminole War?)not in 1850 census
> ....... +MARTHENA, Mary / b: Bet. 1775 - 1790
> .......... 3 [1] CARPENTER, Zachariah "possibly" b: Abt. 1805
> ............. +SPOUSE, First b: Bet. 1804 - 1810
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Son 1 of Zac b: Bet. 1830 - 1835
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Dau 1 of Zac b: Bet. 1835 - 1840
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Dau 2 of Zac b: Bet. 1835 - 1840
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Dau 3 of Zac b: Bet. 1835 - 1840
> .......... *2nd Wife of [1] CARPENTER, Zachariah "possibly":
> ............. +JORDAN, "Possibly" Margaret b: Bet. 1805 - 1822
> .......... 3 CARPENTER, Elizabeth b: Bet. 1805 - 1810 d: Bet. 1845 - 1849 in
> ALA
> ............. +WILKINS, William W. b: February 22, 1815 d: December 10, 1884
> in AL, Clay Co. bur: Old Ashland Cemetery
> ................ 4 WILKINS, Eliza b: Abt. 1839
> ................ 4 WILKINS, Sandord R.(D) b: November 12, 1840 d: February
> 12, 1899 in AL bur: Old Ashland Cemetery
> ................ 4 WILKINS, George b: Abt. 1845 d: in "possibly" went to
> Autaugua Co AL
> .......... 3 [3] CARPENTER, Thomas M. II b: April 23, 1810 d: November 15,
> 1853 in Randolph Co., ALA
> ............. +BARROW, Lucinda b: August 12, 1811 d: July 16, 1852 in
> ?Randlph Co, ALA
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Mary L/E. b: December 14, 1833 d: November 30,
> 1862 in prob. Carroll Co., GA
> ................... +TANNER, Joseph b: Abt. 1830 d: Unknown
> ................ 4 [2] CARPENTER, William Thomas b: April 18, 1835 d: April
> 18, 1900 in AL, Randolph Co.
> ................... +(CURRY?), Mary or Mandy b: Bet. 1839 - 1841 d: April
> 17, 1894 in AL, Randolph Co. bur: Valley Grove Cemetery
> ................ *2nd Wife of [2] CARPENTER, William Thomas:
> ................... +WATSON, Amanda Frances"Fanny" b: Bet. July 24 1847 -
> 1851 d: 1941 in AL, Newell, Rrandolph Co. bur: Valley Grove Cem.
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Elizabeth C. b: August 10, 1836 d: February
> 27, 1907 in AL, Randolph Co. bur: Valley Grove Cemetery
> ................... +HOLLOWAY, John, Jr. b: Abt. 1835 d: Aft. 1880
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Lucinda b: May 11, 1838 d: 1905 in Randolph
> Co., ALA Valley Grove Cemetery
> ................... +LIPHAM, Thomas Newton b: October 07, 1827 d: April 09,
> 1894 in Randolph Co., ALA
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, James R. b: May 17, 1839 d: November 27, 1863
> in CSA 56th GA INF
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, John W. b: October 12, 1840 d: Unknown
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Joseph b: August 31, 1842 d: April 10, 1862 in
> Civil War?
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Lewis b: February 13, 1845 d: Unknown
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Martha H. b: January 21, 1847 d: April 11,
> 1864 in ALA
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Zachariah b: February 26, 1849
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Robert A. b: March 06, 1851 d: Unknown
> ................... +MCBURNETT, Martha (ML/MH) b: Abt. 1852 d: Unknown
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Nathan b: July 16, 1852 d: September 17, 1852
> in Randolph Co, ALA
> .......... *2nd Wife of [3] CARPENTER, Thomas M. II:
> ............. +BARROW, Ruth b: Abt. 1815 d: Aft. 1853 in prob AL
> .......... 3 CARPENTER, Frances "Fannie" b: Bet. 1810 - 1820
> ............. +MCKEE b: Bet. 1823 - 1825
> .......... 3 CARPENTER, JAMES WARREN*, Sr. b: January 21, 1813 d: January
> 04, 1857 in Clay/Talladega Co., ALA bur: Old Primitive Baptist Cemetery
> ............. +HARLIN, SARAH ABIGAYLE "SALLIE"* b: March 01, 1820 d: January
> 14, 1914 in Clay Co, Alabama bur: Old Primitive Baptist Cemetery
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Lydia Elizabeth b: October 20, 1839 d: June
> 05, 1917 in lived in North ALA in 1911 (72 yrs old)
> ................... +HAMNER, William R. b: February 27, 1836 d: March 15,
> 1908 in lived in North ALA
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Mary Ann b: May 28, 1841 d: February 02, 1878
> in Clay Co, Alabama bur: Old Macedonia Baptist Cemeter
> ................... +PONDER, Jasper b: Abt. 1841 d: Unknown in Clay Co,
> Alabama
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Sarah Abigail b: December 16, 1842 d: March
> 31, 1924 in AL, Franklin Co. Bur: Bethel Cem.
> ................... +JOHNSON, Thomas L. b: July 31, 1833 d: March 14, 1924
> in AL, Franklin Co. Bur: Bethel Cem.
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Mathena Candis b: January 01, 1844 d: August
> 27, 1877 in Clay Co, Alabama bur: Old Primitive Baptist Cemetery
> ................ 4 [4] CARPENTER, Nancy Jane b: September 13, 1846 d:
> October 28, 1905 in Unknown
> ................... +BREWSTER, M.J.C. b: Abt. 1846 d: Unknown in Unknown
> ................ *2nd Husband of [4] CARPENTER, Nancy Jane:
> ................... +WILLOUGHBY, William J. b: Abt. 1846 d: Unknown in
> Unknown
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, ZACHARIAH THOMAS*, Sr. b: July 29, 1848 d:
> August 10, 1908 in Lineville, Clay Co, Alabama -Concord Bapt Cemetery
> ................... +JOHNSON, Martha "MATTIE"Teague b: November 04, 1850 d:
> November 21, 1930 in Lineville, Clay Co, Alabama -Concord Bapt Cemetery
> ................ 4 [5] CARPENTER, David Harlin b: November 10, 1850 d:
> February 21, 1921 in Ashland, Clay Co, Alabama Macedonie Prim Bap Cemetery
> ................... +HARRIS, Margaret Jane b: November 09, 1849 d: January
> 14, 1931 in Clay Co, Alabama Macedonia Prim Bapt Cemetery
> ................ *2nd Wife of [5] CARPENTER, David Harlin:
> ................... +BARTLETT, Sarah Annie Agnes b: November 22, 1848 d:
> January 21, 1878 in Clay Co, Alabama bur:Macedonia Primitive Cemetery
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Emaly Caroline b: May 30, 1853 d: October 01,
> 1868 in Clay Co, Alabama
> ................ 4 [6] CARPENTER, James Warren "Bud", Jr. b: May 30, 1856 d:
> August 07, 1913 in Lineville, Clay Co., ALA Macedonie Prim Bap Cemetery
> ................... +RAY, Mary "Mollie" Elizabeth b: September 08, 1856 d:
> July 02, 1901 in Clay Co, Alabama Macedonia Prim Bapt Cemetery
> ................ *2nd Wife of [6] CARPENTER, James Warren "Bud", Jr.:
> ................... +WHITE, Callie b: April 02, 1876 d: February 11, 1931 in
> Clay Co, Alabama Macedonie Prim Bap Cemetery
> .......... 3 CARPENTER, Samuel "Tanner Sam" b: January 07, 1815 d: April 26,
> 1876 in ALA Clay Co bur: Old Wedowee Cem
> ............. +L./Q., Elizabeth b: July 12, 1820 d: December 23, 1891 in ALA
> Clay Co bur: Old Wedowee Cem
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Sarah A. b: 1841
> ................ 4 [7] CARPENTER, Frances b: 1843
> ................... +GREEN, Henry b: Abt. 1840
> ................ *2nd Husband of [7] CARPENTER, Frances:
> ................... +GAUNTT, Elbert T. b: Abt. 1840
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Martha b: 1845
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Elizabeth b: 1847
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Luther A. b: 1849
> .......... 3 [8] CARPENTER, Charles K. b: June 10, 1816 d: January 17, 1897
> in Talladega Co., ALA
> ............. +KENDRICK, Nancy b: Abt. 1817 d: Abt. 1841 in ALA ?
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Daniel H. b: Abt. 1840
> .......... *2nd Wife of [8] CARPENTER, Charles K.:
> ............. +MILLER, Jane E. b: May 25, 1820 d: October 21, 1901 in
> Talladega Co., ALA
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Rebecca A. b: 1842
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Mary E. b: 1844
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, William b: 1846
> .......... 3 CARPENTER, Child 10 Boy b: Bet. 1820 - 1825
> .......... 3 CARPENTER, Child 8 Girl b: Bet. 1820 - 1825
> .......... 3 CARPENTER, Child 9 Girl b: Bet. 1820 - 1825
> .......... 3 CARPENTER, William Henry b: 1825 d: Bet. 1861 - 1865 in CFArmy
> Shelbyville, TENN
> ............. +GARRETT, MARY Jane (NANCY?) b: February 15, 1835 d: Aft. 1880
> in prob ALA
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Francis William Henry b: May 28, 1859 d: Aft.
> 1895 in Clay Co, Ala bur: Olive Branch
> ................... +GREEN, Mariah b: 1857 d: 1911 in Clay Co, Ala bur:
> Olive Branch Cemetery
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Zachariah R. b: December 1861 d: Aft. 1900
> ................... +LAWS, Willie b: Abt. 1870 d: Aft. 1889
> .......... 3 CARPENTER, Martha b: Abt. 1827 d: Aft. 1850 in Unknown
> ............. +COOK, Francis T. speculate b: Abt. 1806
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Elisha b: Abt. 1845
> .......... 3 CARPENTER, Reuben L (Lewis?) b: December 14, 1828 d: June 21,
> 1863 in CFArmy Shelbyville, TENN
> ............. +GARRETT, EMILY b: April 27, 1833 d: May 31, 1915 in Clay Co.,
> AL Macedonia Prim Bapt Cemetery
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Elijah Thomas b: April 27, 1849 d: April 13,
> 1855 in Clay Co., AL bur: Old Macedonia Cemetery next to grandma
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Mary/Nancy Jane b: Abt. 1852
> ................... +HAMLIN, Gee Jethro b: Abt. 1850
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, John Lewis b: January 03, 1854 d: July 13,
> 1930 in Clay Co, Alabama Macedonia Prim Bapt Cemetery
> ................... +HAMLIN, Mary Jamima b: May 10, 1853 d: July 31, 1946 in
> Clay Co, Alabama Macedonia Prim Bapt Cemetery
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Geonetta "Jenetty" b: June 08, 1855
> ................... +MCCAIN, Dixon Hall b: Abt. 1850
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Julia Ann b: March 22, 1858
> ................... +PITTS, Jim b: Abt. 1855
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Sophronia "Sophie" b: June 07, 1861
> ................... +HARRIS, Johnathan H. b: Abt. 1860
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Sarah Armenda b: Abt. 1863 d: 1958
> ................... +HUDSON, James G. "Glen" b: Abt. 1862
> .... 2 [10] CARPENTER, Reuben, Sr. b: Bet. 1776 - 1780 d: Abt. 1840 in
> Edgefield Co., SC in SC 1810 and 1830 census
> ....... +BUTLER, Mary b: Bet. 1776 - 1780 d: 1838
> .......... 3 CARPENTER, Thomas b: Abt. 1800 d: Aft. 1850 in ?Chickasaw Co.,
> MISS
> ............. +AVEY b: Abt. 1802 d: Unknown in ?Chickasaw Co., MISS
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Rebecca b: Abt. 1835
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Caroline b: Abt. 1838
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Lucinda b: Abt. 1840
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Timothy b: Abt. 1850
> .......... 3 CARPENTER, Boy 3 b: Bet. 1800 - 1810
> .......... 3 CARPENTER, Boy 4 b: Bet. 1800 - 1810
> .......... 3 CARPENTER, Girl 3 b: Bet. 1800 - 1810
> .......... 3 CARPENTER, Abigail b: Abt. 1806 d: Unknown in Edgefield Co., SC
> ............. +STALNAKER, Samuel b: Abt. 1805 d: Unknown in ?Edgefield, SC
> .......... 3 [9] CARPENTER, Reuben, Jr. b: Abt. 1807 d: 1853 in 1850 Upsher
> TX and 1850 Talladega AL CENSUS *Pg 424 ref pg 417
> ............. +WIFE, Reubens b: Abt. 1807
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Son of Reuben 1 b: Bet. 1820 - 1825
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Son of Reuben 2 b: Bet. 1820 - 1825
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Robert b: 1825 d: 1862 in St Louis MO while in
> Union-Co B 1st ARK Volunteer INF
> ................... +POWELL, Mary A. b: Abt. 1825 d: Aft. 1891
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Son Reuben 4 b: Bet. 1825 - 1830
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Son of Reuben 3 b: Bet. 1825 - 1830
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Son of Reuben 5 b: Bet. 1830 - 1835
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Dau of Reuben 1 b: Bet. 1830 - 1835
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Dau of Reuben 2 b: Bet. 1835 - 1840
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Dau of Reuben 3 b: Bet. 1835 - 1840
> .......... *2nd Wife of [9] CARPENTER, Reuben, Jr.:
> ............. +KENDRICK, Ellen b: 1818 d: Unknown
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Sarah J. b: 1844
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Mary A.R. b: 1846
> .......... 3 CARPENTER, Mary b: Abt. 1807 d: Unknown in Chickasaw Co., MS ?
> ............. +GRAY, James b: Abt. 1805 d: Unknown in Chickasaw Co., MS ?
> .......... 3 CARPENTER, Jane b: Abt. 1815 d: Unknown
> ............. +BUTLER, Samuel b: Abt. 1815 d: Unknown in Edgefield Co., SC
> .......... 3 CARPENTER, Martha b: Abt. 1817 d: Aft. 1843 in Unk
> .......... 3 CARPENTER, Ellen b: Abt. 1820 d: Bef. 1843 in SC ?
> ............. +BARDON, John S. b: Abt. 1820 d: Unknown in SC ?
> .......... 3 CARPENTER, Frances b: Abt. 1822 d: Bef. 1843 in SC ?
> ............. +HILL, Joel P. b: Abt. 1820 d: Unknown in Unk
> .... *2nd Wife of [10] CARPENTER, Reuben, Sr.:
> ....... +HENDERSON, Rebecca b: Abt. 1780
> .... 2 CARPENTER, Nancy b: Bet. 1770 - 1782
> .... 2 CARPENTER, Mary b: Bet. 1770 - 1782
> .... 2 CARPENTER, John b: Bet. 1774 - 1782 d: Aft. 1820 in prob: Lincoln
> Co., GA
> ....... +WIFE, Johns b: Abt. 1780 d: Unknown in prob: Lincoln Co., GA
> .......... 3 CARPENTER, Thomas see note b: October 01, 1801 d: 1881 in
> Coweta Co., GA
> ............. +JOHNSON, Lovenia "Lovie" b: May 09, 1802 d: April 19, 1875 in
> Coweta Co., GA
> ................ 4 CARPENTER, Thomas Washington b: April 28, 1832 d:
> February 09, 1899 in Hamilton, Marion Co., AL
> ................... +FLURRY, Antoinette P. b: 1836 d: 1886 in Hamilton,
> Marion Co., AL
> .... 2 CARPENTER, Elizabeth b: Bet. 1776 - 1782 d: Unknown in Unk
> ....... +HANCOCK, George b: Bet. 1770 - 1780 d: Unknown in Unk
>
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Cc: John R. CD Carpenter
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:02 AM
Subject: Nix Last - Try THIS ONE
THOMAS CARPENTER c.1785 of Henry Co Georgia
There seems to be some confusion over the Thomas CARPENTERS who were all born between 1780 and 1811 living in GA.
A few years ago, I gave my original information to John R. Carpenter for his Carpenter CD. Since that time, I have been able to gather and analyze more records. In 1999, I collaborated with Terry Carpenter (authored works on Southern Carpenter lines) and also with Steve Mardonak (reasearcher of the Jordan-Moffetts) . There were at least three Thomas Carpenters in Walton/Henry County area circa early 1800s. Let me see if I can clarify these three.
We must begin with the story of Abigail Jordan-Carpenter-Moffett. According to an old diary, Abigail Jordan and an unknown Carpenter ( who died) had three sons... John, Reuben & Thomas. Abigail remarried Thomas Moffett in SC and relocated to GA. Steve Martanak and Terry Carpenter believe these brothers to be the children of Henry County GA circa early 1800s. Records show Thomas Carpenter witnessing a land transaction for Jordans as early as 1805. There are other records of the same era indicating the Moffet and Carpenter families are connected as shown on Steve Martanak's website.
LINCOLN CO DEED BOOKS
Lincoln County Genealogy and History
Compiled by: Robert S Davis Jr and James E Dorsey
Published by: Magnolia Press; PO Box 3; Swainsboro GA
Copyright 1987 by Magnolia Press
[pg 79][Deedbook E, 1805-1809]
THOMAS CARPENTER to REUBEN CARPENTER. 20 November 1805.
Deed for 148 acres sold by THOMAS MOFFETT to THOMAS and REUBEN CARPENTER
27 August 1803. Where THOMAS CARPENTER now resides. MARY CARPENTER
also signs as a grantor and by mark. Witnessed: Nathan
Jackson and Edward Hardy. Registered March 4, 1806. Pages 43-4.
[pg 79][Deedbook E, 1805-1809]
THOMAS MOFFETT to THOMAS CARPENTER and REUBEN CARPENTER. 27 August 1803. Deed for 148 acres. Witnessed: Chas. Ashley, Francis Pickett, and R.F. Winn, J.P. Registered March 5, 1806.
Pages 45-6.
You can see they definitely knew each other. I suspect that these Carpenters may have been descendants of the Boutetart VA line but it is not proven. Regardless of their lineage, my work presumes these three Carpenters, living in the same general area of Lincoln / Henry Counties in GA circa early 1800s, were related. Rueben and Thomas Carpenter's descendants continued using the names Thomas, Zachariah & Rueben through the current years.
THOMAS CARPENTER c. 1780 of Henry Co GA
This Thomas is the purported son of Abigail Jordan and Unknown Carpenter. An earlier work done by Mrs. E. L. Ross on the Alabama families who originated from Thomas Carpenter of Henry County GA through his son James Warren Carpenter, said Thomas's father was Reuben S. Carpenter of Edgefield SC. Most folks took Mrs. Ross's work for granted. However, I found some discrepencies and have made changes to my outline (click to see outline) excluding the idea that Reuben was Thomas's father. I believe Thomas to be the brother of John & Reuben Carpenters, born circa 1776-1785. Some of my reasoning is as followis:
a) Thomas and his brother Reuben each named a son Thomas and Reuben.
b) There was a Zachariah Carpenter born c.1805 living in Henry County GA who is named in fi-fa suits with Thomas & James Warren, Rueben & Thomas M Carpenters as either co-defendants or co-complainteffs. This definitely proves a relationship.
c) Since Thomas was named along with Zachariah in land transactions and witnessed transactions for Thomas and vice versa as early as 1827, and assuming one should be 16 +yrs old to sign, then Zachariah was probably born before 1811. Zachariah sold land to Thomas in 1831 which might indicate he is same age or older than Thomas. Don't know the connection between them, suspect Zachariah was either a father, brother or son.
d) My grandfather told me that his brother, Zackie, was named for a
ancestor who went to war and never returned.
e) Thomas M., James W. and William Henry Carpenters (William another suspected son of Thomas) all named a child Zachariah. Therefore, I listed him as a
probable son.
f) There was a Reuben L. Carpenter mentioned in some of the later transactions with Thomas and James Warren Carpenters in Henry County. (see more about Reuben L below).
g) My own line is through James Warren Carpenter, the son of Thomas Carpenter (c.1780). This connection is definitely provable through the published church record left by James Warren's wife Sarah Abigayle Harlen who states her mother was a Wilkin, her father was a Harlan and that Sarah was the wife of James Warren and that she was orphaned in 1824. Henry County records show Thomas Carpenter and Sarah's maternal uncle, John R. Wilkins, put up bond for her guardianship. Thomas's daughter Elizabeth married William Wilkins the brother of Sarah Abigayle's mother Judah Wilkins. Sarah and James Warren sued John R. Wilkins in 1838.
h) 1838 is the year in which I believe Thomas Carpenter (c.1780) died at approximate age of 58. He is not found after this in records of Henry Co GA. Several sons and Carpenter families, believed to be related, moved to Talladega and Randolph Counties Alabama between 1835 and 1840.
Census info indicates Thomas Carpenter (c.1780) had 12 childen. The ones highlighted went to Alabama:
Suspected children of Thomas :
Zachariah, Elizabeth (AL) , Thomas M.(AL) , Frances, James Warren (AL) , Samuel (AL) , Charles K.(AL) , 3 unidentified girls, William Henry (AL) , Reuben L. (AL)
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THOMAS "M." CARPENTER son of Thomas (c.1780): b. Apr 23, 1810 GA > AL
If one looks at the records of Henry Co GA, you will see almost every time Thomas the elder of Henry Co GA is mentioned, this Thomas "M" is named there with him. He was probably the son of Thomas Carpenter (c.1780) of Henry County and he was the most probable brother of James Warren Carpenter who married Sarah Abigail Harlin. This Thomas M. Carpenter was found circa 1836-1838 in Carroll / Heard County GA and in 1839 in Lebanon AL land deeds which is right on the Heard County Ga and Randolph County AL border. In 1850 he was found in the Randolph County AL census. He married Lucinda / Ruth Barrow and died 1853 in Randolph County AL. He left children at the ages of 20-18-17-15-14-13-11-8-6-4-2-1
Children of Thomas M. are: Mary L/E, William Thomas, Elisabeth, Lucinda, James R. John W., Joseph, Lewis, Martha, Zachariah, Robert A, Nathan. Luckily, Thomas "M"s daughter, Elizabeth married John Holloway and descendant Bev Key was copied on a Bible record.
The minor children were split up:
-Mary L had married Joseph TANNER and apparently took her 2 yr old brother Robert A. to live with her in Carroll Co. GA.
-James R. (now 21) was living in 1860 Carroll Co GA Censes with J.G. MORRIS
and his brother John W. (now 20yrs) was living with Thos. J. MORRIS.
It is of interest to note that the sons of Thomas M. Carpenter were living with TANNERs. There was a man called Samuel "Tanner" Carpenter living with wife Elizabeth in 1835 Randolph County Alabama in which Thomas M. Carpenter was also living in 1839. I believe Samuel was a possible son of Thomas Carpenter (c.1780) and brother to Thomas M. , but have no other proof.
It is also of interest that the sons of Thomas M. Carpenter lived in the MORRIS household. I have not seen anything to show a daughter of his married any Morris spouses. "Perhaps" these were grandparents and Thomas Carpenter (c.1780) was married to a Morris?
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THOMAS CARPENTER son of Rueben Sr.: b.1800/1 in SC >GA >MS
According to information supplied by Terry Carpenter, this Thomas is believed to be the son of Reuben Carpenter Sr. of Edgefield SC. He states this Thomas born circa 1800-1801 left GA and was in the Chickasaw MS census of 1840 & 1850. According to Terry, this Thomas had a brother Reuben Jr. who went to Upshur, TX.
Children of Thomas son of Reuben: Rebecca, Caroline, Lucinda & Timothy.
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THOMAS CARPENTER son of John Carpenter: b. Oct 1, 1801 SC > GA > AL
This Thomas was born about 1801 lived in Lincoln Co. GA and Coweta GA and according to descendant Greg Nabors, he was the probable son of John Carpenter. He married Lovenia "Lovie" Johnson. Greg says this Thomas had a son named Thomas Washington Carpenter b. abt 1832 who went to Marion Co. AL.
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REUBEN SR. AND THOMAS (the elder brothers) BOTH NAMED SONS REUBEN.
There was Reuben, of the 1840 Talladega County AL census who lived 2 doors from Charles K. Carpenter . At first I thought this was Reuben the son of Reuben Sr. However, most information found online shows that Reuben Sr's son, Reuben Jr., went to Ushur Co TX. The Reuben listed in Alabama age 30-40 with a female age 20-30 is definitely not in TX. Also, there is a smear under the male age group 50-60 so it is difficult to tell if the census taker intended for it to be marked or not. But possibly this Reuben was age 50-60 with another male in the household age 30-40. In the 1850 census this Reuben is still there, age 43 born SC which concurs to being the same Reuben age 30-40 in 1840 (not the smear mark). He has a wife Ellen born in GA and daughters Sarah J. and Mary A. R.. Talladega marriage records lists a Reuben Carpenter married Ellen Kendrick on Feb 10, 1836. Another Reuben is listed in the 1850 Talladega census. He is age 21 born GA with a wife Emily age 17 born GA and an infant son THOMAS age 1 born in Alabama. He is Reuben L. Carpenter , son of Thomas (c.1780), who married Emily Garrett.
1840 Talladega
Born
pg
1850 Talladega
Born
pg
Charles K
1810-1820
268
Charles K
1816 GA
392
Reuben 30-40
1800-1810
268
Reuben & Ellen
1807 SC
424
Reuben 50-60 + 1 male
1780-1780
268
James Warren
1813 GA
407
Reuben L. & Emily
1829 GA
417
Martha & Elisha
1828 GA
418
Note : There were TN Carpenters in the 1840 census named William S & James J. Do not think part of our line.
We can see Charles K of 1840 is the same of the 1850. It appears Reuben of the 1840 age 30-40 was probably head of household and lines up with the 1850 census. This means one of the following: (a) census taker made an ink mark and there was no elder male in the family (b) there was an elder male in the family who died or moved before 1850. The relationship to Charles K Carpenter and that of the elder Reuben could be cousins or brothers (only 9 yrs between them). Looking at Charles being born in GA and Reuben in SC makes me tend to lean toward cousins. Since the younger Reuben L had records in GA and Reuben L Carpenter stated he was born GA, and he didn't marry until 1-21-1848 in AL and was only married about two years then having the son Thomas in AL in 1839, I do not feel he was the son of the elder Reuben from SC. However, I feel they were definitly related and he could be a nephew or cousin of the elder Reuben. He might be his son but I think the younger Reuben went to AL when his father died about 1838. Reuben the elder definitely did not show a younger male in his household in 1840. Also, the younger Reuben L. buried his son in the Old Primitive Baptist Cemetery with the James Warren Carpenter family per this inscription:
Elijah Thomas Carpenter 4-27-1849 6 yrs 4-13-1855 Son of R.L. and Emily
It is also told that Reuben L & Emily donated the land for the cemetery. As a child, my father was taken to this cemetery and told it was where his great grandpa was buried. (My father being descendant of James Warren). Reuben L. also had a son named John Lewis Carpenter. "Perhaps" Reuben's middle name was Lewis? Reuben L Carpenter died on June 21, 1863 in Shelbyville TN during the Civil War. He still has descendants in Clay County AL (Clay became a county in 1866 after the 1850 census).
There was Reuben Carpenter, Jr. b. abt 1807, the son of Reuben Sr of Edgefield SC who was purported to have moved to Chickasaw MS according to several other researchers.
CONCLUSION: I have not done any new research of late. The persons I communicated with in 1999 may have new information by now. We all know this is not an exact science but I hope I have made the logical choices based on what evidence exists today. Please visit my family outline.
Donna Carpenter Cuzze
revised October 2004
E-MAIL: UPDATE
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:17:08 -0800 From: "Donna Cuzze" > Subject: [CARPENTER] Thomas Carpenter c.1780 SC - GA Hello Listers, As most of you know, Geocities is no more. That forced me to move my gen files and update them. I am nowhere near done, but I did update and publish my Thomas Carpenter files. Actually, I am very proud of myself as this is the first time I dug out all the records I collected over the years and put them all together. Whew! Took days. I have, to my own satisfaction, proved Thomas M. Carpenter b.1810 GA and James Warren Carpenter b.1813 GA to be brothers. I have, to my own satisfaction, proved their father to be Thomas Carpenter c.1780 of the SC Edgefield Carpenter line. You can check out my files at: Then click on CONNECTING THOMAS CARPENTER Parts 1& 2. Donna Cuzze
DEATH: Did he die in Walton, Henry, GA?
MISC:
1803 GA, LINCOLN -Thomas & Mary Carpenter sell to Reuben Carpenter the 148 acres they co-purchased originally from MOFFAT. [It is only 45 miles to Edgefield, SC].
Thomas & Reuben had to be minimum 21 yrs of age (born bef 1783).
1830 GA, HENRY Census: Thos & Wife 1780-1790, Boy 1810-1815, 2-Boys 1815-1820, 3-Girls 1820-1825, Boy 1820-1825, Girl 1825-1830, Boy 1825-1830, MAN 1770-1780. Neighbors: FEARS & JORDAN
NOTE: By Donna Carpenter Cuzze (July 2011) - used by permission via email.
Son 3: THOMAS CARPENTER, soldier b: Bet. 1775 - 1780 in SC?
Migrated to SC, GA, Lincoln/Wilkes on Wells Creek, to Warren & Henry Co.
d: Bet. 1838 - 1840 in GA, Henry Co?
TAX RECORD: 1803 GA TAXROLL: John, Reuben and Thomas were listed on GA taxroll.
CENSUS-1: 1820 GA, WARREN (Oglesthorpe Co), Thomas b.1775-1794, Wife, 4 males under 16, 2 girls under 16, and 8 slaves. *Note Henry County not formed yet. John C. Jordan also on census.
CENSUS-2: 1830 GA, HENRY, Thos & Wife 1780-1790, Boy 1810-1815, 2-Boys 1815-1820, 3-Girls 1820-1825, Boy 1820-1825, Girl 1825-1830, Boy 1825-1830, MAN 1770-1780. TWO KIDS MISSING. Neighbors: FEARS & JORDAN
LAND-1: 1792 GA, LINCOLN, Jas Moffet of Wilkes Co to Thos Moffett, 250a in Wilkies on Wells Crk. Wit: John CARPENTER, Sarah McCLENDAL & Henry WARE.
LAND-2: 1793 SC, PENDLETON DIST, Thomas Carpenter 1000 acres on Cedar Creek [this would now be on Savannah River just NW of Barnes in Anderson Co].
LAND-3: 1801 GA, LINCOLN - Thomas Carpenter witnesses Charles & Amey JORDAN's land sale to John Chancey JORDAN (b.1784) who would be buried by Thomas Carpenter's son in Clay Co ALA in 1866.
LAND-4: 1803 GA, LINCOLN, Thos MOFFETT to Thos & Reuben CARPENTER 148a.
LAND-5: 1805 GA, LINCOLN -Henry, John & Thomas Carpenters were listed in Land Lottery.
LAND-6: November 20, 1805 GA, LINCOLN, Thos CARPENTER to Reuben CARPENTER 148a [where Thos Carp now lives] original sold them by Thos MOFFETT 1803. Mary CARPENTER also grantor. Wit: Nathan JACKSON and Edward HARDY.
LAND -7: Other land transactions exist in records Henry Co Ga w/his sons, Thos.M., Zach & Warren who go to ALA circa 1838. Thomas died then?
MILITARY: 1832 Thomas Carpenter, Soldier, of Thompson's, Henry Co, granted 1838 draw 191 of the 1832 GA Land Lottery in 7th Dist, 3rd Sect, Cherokee.
RECORD-1: July 10, 1833 GA TELEGRAPH NEWS of HENRY CO shows John Daily vs Thomas M, Zachariah & Thomas Carpenters in a FiFa suit over their 25 ac of land which Thos lives on next to Reub Turner, Elisha Rogers & John R. WILKINS.
RECORD-2: February 06, 1834 GA TELEGRAPH NEWS of HENRY CO 3rd DIST Lot 81, John Daily vs Thomas, Zachariah & Thomas M. Carpenters in FiFa suit of 5 ac where Elisha Rogers now lives.
RECORD-3: "Diary of Josephine C. Robinson" stated Abigail Jordan Carpenter had three sons named Thomas, Reuben and John.
DNA: Three persons who descend from Reuben Jr's line match my father's DNA (Thomas Carpenter line, the brother of Reuben Sr).
MARRIAGE: Thomas's wife was probably the Mary named in the land record of 1805.
CHILDREN OF THOMAS & MARY CARPENTER:
Unknown Son circa 1804-1816
Zachariah Lee? Carpenter 1805 speculated: m1.Unknown m2. Marg Jordan? m3. Carver?
Thomas M. Carpenter Apr 23, 1810 m1. Lucinda Barrow m2. Rutha Barrow
James Warren Carpenter Jan 21, 1813 m. Sarah Abigail Harlen
Elizabeth Carpenter abt 1815 m. William W. Wilkins
Abigail? Carpenter Nov 8, 1820 m. Moses Watts
Unknown Son circa 1820-1825
Unknown Dau circa 1822-1825
Unknown Dau circa 1825-1830
Reuben L. Carpenter Dec 14, 1828 m. Emily Garrett
Five of Thomas's children moved to Talladega County AL.
CONNECTONS:
CONNECTING THOMAS CARPENTER - Part 1
by Donna Carpenter Cuzze
(revised June 2011) Permission needed for reprint.- used by permission via email.
DEDICATION:
Dedicated to my grandparents : John Barnett Carpenter and Mabel V. Cruise.
COMPILED FROM INFORMATION SUPPLIED BY: Richard O’Neal Carpenter, Pat Morgan-Lyons, Terry Carpenter, Steve Martonak, Sharon Patterson-Boling, Ginger Carpenter, Richard Soard, Lee Weaver, Beverly Key, Fred Summerlin, John Carpenter, Gail Elliott-Tucker, Nobie Carpenter-Hallmark & others, census records, Lincoln, Wilkes & Henry County GA records, Clay County AL records, LDS Family Centers, Findagrave and personal knowledge of descendants and others. Information collected between 1995 and 2008, updated 2011.
MY LINE:
My Carpenter line spent many years in Clay County Alabama. JAMES WARREN CARPENTER b.1813 was my 3rd great grandpa. His wife was SARAH ABIGAIL “SALLIE” HARLEN. They moved from Henry Co GA to Alabama in 1848. I have spent eleven years gathering records on this line. Based on preponderance of the evidence I found, I believe my 4th great grandfather was THOMAS CARPENTER who lived in Henry County GA circa early 1800s.
EVIDENCE:
My 3rd great grandmother, Sallie [Harlen] Carpenter, lived to be 94 years old. In her 91st year, she wrote a testimonial for the church. In it she stated her mother was Judah WILKINS and her father was Zachariah HARLEN who died when she was 4 yrs old. She said she married her husband, WARREN CARPENTER, in Henry County when she was 19 and consequently moved to Alabama in 1848. That same year she named her baby boy Zachariah Thomas Carpenter which appears to be after each of the grandpas.
I found Thomas Carpenter listed in the 1820 Warren County census [Henry Co. wasn't formed yet] with wife, 4 sons born 1804-1820 and 2 daughters b. 1804-1816. James Warren Carpenter was born 1813.
Pat Morgan-Lyons found documents that Sarah's father, Zachariah Harlen, was murdered in 1824 Greene Co, GA. Sarah would have been about 4 yrs old per her testimonial
Richard O. Carpenter found Henry County Georgia court records showing Sallie's guardianship was bonded by: THOMAS CARPENTER and JOHN R. WILKINS in 1828.
I found Thomas Carpenter listed in the 1830 Henry County census with wife, 5 boys, 4 girls and a 60-70 yr old man. One of his sons born before 1820 had moved out of the home making him have a total of SIX BOYS. There was only 1 Thomas Carpenter in the census.
I found documents showing James Warren Carpenter was married in 1838 Henry County Georgia to SARAH HARLIN.
I found a WILLIAM WILKINS who married ELIZABETH CARPENTER in Henry Co GA, also in 1838 like James Warren Carpenter and Sarah Harlin. I believe Elizabeth was a daughter of Thomas Carpenter and William was a relative of Sarah's mother, Judah (Wilkins) Harlen.
In 1833, the GA Telegraph News of Henry County shows tax liens on the property of:
Thomas M Carpenter - Zachariah Carpenter - & Thomas Carpenter in a FiFa suit over their 25 acres of land on which Thomas is living next to Reuben Turner, Elisha Rogers & John R. WILKINS.
I found Warren Carpenter listed in the 1840 Henry County census with wife and a daughter and another couple living in the home.
I found record that in 1844, Sarah & James Warren Carpenter sued John R. WILKINS (possibly for his Sarah's estate that John R. Wilkins controlled).
I found record that in 1848, Sarah & James Warren Carpenter moved to Alabama and in the Randolph County 1850 census they are living ""next door to Thomas M. Carpenter"" both Thomas M and Warren stated they were born in GA. In addition, Warren & Sarah's land deed was notorized by William W. WILKINS (spouse of Elizabeth Carpenter).
Photos of Sarah [Harlin] Carpenter in the possession of the family.
BASED ON THE ABOVE AND EVIDENCE IN PART 2, I am convinced that Thomas Carpenter was the father of James Warren Carpenter.
PART 2
WAS THOMAS CARPENTER OF HENRY CO GA
related to
EDGEFIELD SC CARPENTERS ?
An earlier research by Mrs. Ross on the Alabama families stated Thomas Carpenter's father was Reuben S. Carpenter of Edgefield SC. However, I found some discrepancies and have made changes to my outline "excluding" the idea that Reuben was my Thomas's father. However, Reuben Sr. of Edgefield did a son named Thomas born circa 1800. I believe my Thomas to be the "brother" of John & Reuben Carpenters, born circa 1776-1785 and that their father was Unknown Carpenter and their mother was ABIGAIL JORDAN who married 2nd Thomas Moffettt.
According to a diary written 1884 by Josephine C. Robinson, Abigail Jordan and an unknown Carpenter (who died ) had three sons... John, Reuben & Thomas. Abigail was a noblewoman and the Carpenters and Jordans were well off. Abigail had lived in SC, moved to Lincoln Co. GA and remarried to Thomas Moffettt in GA. Abigail and Thomas Moffettt had four sons, Thomas, Nathan, Jacob and James Moffettt. Some researchers believe these Carpenter & Moffett brothers to be the children that lived in Henry County GA circa early 1800s. Records show Thomas Carpenter witnessing a land transaction for Jordans as early as 1805. There are other indications the Moffett and Carpenter families are connected as shown on Steve Martonak's website http://users.ticnet.com/shmartonak/Moffettt.htm Steve was so gracious to contact me and share all his research with me. These deeds are posted on his website showing the many interactions of Carpenters, Moffetts and Jordans:
LINCOLN CO DEED BOOKS
Lincoln County Genealogy and History
Compiled by: Robert S Davis Jr and James E Dorsey
Published by: Magnolia Press; PO Box 3; Swainsboro GA
Copyright 1987 by Magnolia Press
[pg 79][Deedbook E, 1805-1809]
THOMAS MoffettT to THOMAS CARPENTER and REUBEN CARPENTER.
27 August 1803. Deed for 148 acres. Witnessed: Chas. Ashley, Francis
Pickett, and R.F. Winn, J.P. Registered March 5, 1806.
Pages 45-6.
[pg 79][Deedbook E, 1805-1809]
THOMAS CARPENTER to REUBEN CARPENTER. 20 November 1805.
Deed for 148 acres sold by THOMAS MoffettT
to THOMAS and REUBEN CARPENTER 27 August 1803.
Where THOMAS CARPENTER now resides. MARY* CARPENTER also signs as a grantor and by mark. Witnessed: Nathan JACKSON and Edward Hardy. Registered Mar 4, 1806. Pgs 43-4.
*Note Mary Carpenter is "selling" her interest as probable wife of Thomas.
**Reuben Carpenter is buying out his father's or his brother's (Thomas's) share in 1805. This Reuben's descendants are probably the ones that went to Chickasaw MS.
You can see they definitely knew each other. And if you will notice the name Nathan Jackson, he was Abigail & Thomas Moffett's son in law who was witnessing the deed of the Carpenter boys. He was the uncle of their half-aunt Margaret Peggy Moffettt Jackson. My work presumes the three Carpenter boys, the Moffetts and the Jordans living in the same general area of Lincoln / Henry Counties in GA circa early 1800s, were related. Rueben and Thomas Carpenter's descendants have continued using the names Thomas, Zachariah & Rueben through the current years.
Here are some more records and notes:
In 1803 -John, Rueben and Thomas CARPENTERS were listed in the GA Taxroll.
In 1805 -Henry, John and Thomas CARPENTERS were listed in the Lincoln Co. GA Land Lottery.
a) Thomas Sr. and his brother Reuben Sr. each named sons Thomas and Reuben. Thomas Sr.'s sons Thomas M. and Reuben L. both named sons Lewis and Thomas.
b) There was a Zachariah Carpenter born c.1805 living in Henry County GA who is named in fi-fa suits with Thomas, Rueben L. & Thomas M Carpenters as either co-defendants or co-complaintaints. This definitely proves a relationship.
c) Since Thomas was named along with Zachariah in land transactions and witnessed transactions for Thomas and vice versa as early as 1827, and assuming one should be 16 +yrs old to sign, then Zachariah was probably born before 1811. Zachariah sold land to Thomas in 1831 which might indicate he is same age or older than Thomas. I believe Zach was the son of Thomas.
d) My grandfather told me that his brother, Zackie, was named for an ancestor who went to war and never returned. That could have been his 3rd great grandpa Zachariah Harlen who we know was killed 1824 by White Caps but I tend to think it was Zachariah Carpenter of Henry Co born c.1805 as he is mentioned in records with Thomas Carpenter and disappears from Henry County about 1838. Then it appears the same Zac of Henry County is living in Harris County GA in 1840-1850 who has a son named James Warren and a daughter named Abigail. The son, James Warren Carpenter born c.1833 is living in Calhoun County AL in 1860 and has a son named ZACHARIAH. He married Nancy Jane GARRETT, daughter of Elijah Garrett and sister of Emily Garrett who married Reuben L. Carpenter. I believe James Warren (b.1833) and Reuben L (b.1828) to be cousins. In 1854 Harris County Grand Lodge was listed a Zachariah Carpenter, by trade a tyler or tailor. I have not found any more records yet of Zach b.1805 after 1854. I suspect he went to war in 1861-1865 and never returned. However, he may have adopted his brother Thomas M. Carpenter's sons Lewis and Zachariah and moved to Harrison County Texas.
1911 Sallie (Harlen) Carpenter wrote an autobiography and testimony to her church which was published in the Primitive Baptist. She stated she was 91 years old, her father died when she was about 4 while moving from Wilkes to Henry County. Said her mother was Judah WILKINS and her father was Zachariah HARLEN. She said she married WARREN CARPENTER when she was 19. She stated they moved to AL in 1848. They put their letters in the Bethlehem Baptist Church which was on the Georgia side of the state line though they physically lived on the Alabama side. They finally settled within 2 miles of the Macedonia Primitive Baptist Church in Clay County AL (where she was buried in 1914). Stated she had 9 children leaving 266 descendants. This was a touching and moving testimonial titled “The Peace.”
1998 the LIPHAM Family Bible was transcribed containing the descendants of THOMAS M. CARPENTER.
Armed with the above information and the Abigail Moffettt story and information from Terry Carpenter, Richard O. Carpenter, other cousins and researchers, I was able to put all the pieces together. I have made a time line of the records of these families (below). Thanks to all who contributed !
THE RECORDS TIMELINE
1780's : The only Carpenter in the Reconstructed Georgia census is Baley (Bailey) Carpenter in Burke County. This is consistent with the theory that our Carpenters were in South Carolina until Abigail's spouse died circa 1782.
1790 SC : Only 3 Carpenters are listed in what is left of the 1790 census of SC. They are as follows:
Pendleton Dist: BOSTEN CARPENTER born bef 1774, 2 males 1775-1790, 3 females.
Pendleton Dist: WILLIAM CARPENTER born bef 1774, 1 male 1775-1790, 4 females.
Charleston Co: JAMES CARPENTER born bef 1774, 1 male 1775-1790, 2 females.
The man we are looking for would have 3 males in his home in 1790, so I eliminated these. Our Reuben lived in Edgefield SC in 1800 so that may be where his family was from, but census records didn't make it.
1792 Land: GA, LINCOLN, James Moffet of Wilkes Co to Thos Moffett, 250a in Wilkies on Wells Crk. Wit: JOHN CARPENTER, Sarah McClendal & Henry Ware.
1801 Land: GA, Lincoln, Thomas Carpenter witnesses Charles JORDAN land sale. [pg 61][Deedbook D, 1803-1805] Charles Jordan and Amey his wife to John Chancey Jordan (could this be Rev. John C. JORDAN buried in Clay Co. b. 1784 d.1866?).
1801 Land: GA, Lincoln, Deed for 100 acres, part of 750 acres granted to Zachariah JORDAN 17 January 1787. It is on Cherokee Creek adjoining Thomas WADSWORTH, Elijah OFIELD, and TRIPLETT. Charles & Amey JORDAN witness
1801 Record: GA, Lincoln [pg 210][Inferior Court Minutes][July Term, 1801 (sic)] 1. Petit jury: { 48 men including John Carpenter, Jacob Jorden }
1803 Record: GA, Lincoln [pg 213][Inferior Court Minutes][July Term 1803] 1. Jurors (future term): {48 men including Thomas Carpenter, Samuel Jorden, Hardy Hunter, Hashley Warren }
1803 Land: GA, Lincoln [pg 79][Deedbook E, 1805-1809] THOMAS MoffettT to THOMAS CARPENTER and REUBEN CARPENTER. 27 August 1803. Deed for 148 acres. Witnessed: Chas. Ashley, Francis Pickett, and R.F. Winn, J.P. Registered March 5, 1806. Pages 45-6.
1805 Land: GA, Lincoln [pg 79][Deedbook E, 1805-1809] THOMAS CARPENTER to REUBEN CARPENTER. 20 November 1805. [Chain} Deed for 148 acres sold by THOMAS MOFFETT to THOMAS and REUBEN CARPENTER 27 August 1803. Where THOMAS CARPENTER now resides.
MARY* CARPENTER also signs as a grantor and by mark. Witnessed: Nathan JACKSON and Edward Hardy. Registered March 4, 1806. Pgs 43-4. Mary was giving up her right to the land and thus was probably Thomas's wife, mother or sister.
1810 Census: GA, Lincoln Co. Capt Jordan Leverett's District 1. JOHN CARPENTER lived next to JOHN C. JORDAN. " Also there was an Edward MORGAN in Dist 3 and a John MORGAN is Dist 5.
There is a 15 year gap before any more records are found on Thomas or Reuben.
1820 Census: GA, Warren/Oglethorpe Co, Thomas Carpenter b.1775-1794, Wife, 4 males under 16, 2 girls under 16, and 8 slaves. *Note Henry County not formed yet. John C. Jordan also on census.
1820 Census: Wilkes County, Georgia, page 192: Zachariah Harlen-1 male 16/26-1 female under 10-1 female 26/45. This confirms Sallie (Harlen) Carpenter's story that she was born in Wilkes.
1822 Record: An 1844 diary records Abigail (Jordan) Moffettt's death in 1822 and burial in Jasper Co. GA.
1823 Land: pg 232 Henry Co. GA, Charles JOURDAN sold to Jesse JOHNSON on Feb. 28, 1823, Dist. 9, one half, being the East half of Lot #98 for $150, Recorded July 11, 1823. Wit: Hugh LONGINO J.P., Asa HEARN, Thomas CARPENTER.
note: Two of Thomas' grandchilden marry JOHNSONS (Sarah Abigail m. Thomas L. JOHNSON in Henry Co. and Zachariah Thomas Carpenter md. Mattie J. JOHNSON in 1869 ALA.)
1824 Record: Reward offered in Greene Co GA for Peter Early, murderer of Zachariah HARLEN. This confirms Sallie's story. Thanks to Pat Morgan-Lyons for finding this and Ginger Carpenter for getting a copy of the original.
State of Georgia, by His Excellency George M. Troup, Governor....Whereas, I have received official information by the report of the Coroner of the county of Greene, in this state, that PETER A. EARLEY did, on the 17th inst., commit an aggravated murder on the body of ZACHARIAH Harlen, in said county. And whereas it is represented to me that the said Peter A. Earley has absconded, or conceals himself from justice; I have therefore thought proper to issue this my Proclamation, hereby offering a reward of $250.00....Given under my hand...at the State-house in Milledgeville, this 27th day of December, 1824...signed George M. Troup. By the Governor...signed E. Hamilton, Secretary of State.
Note...Peter A. Earley is fair complected, light hair and blue eyes, about 5 feet 9 inches high, near 20 years of age.
1826 Record: Judah HARLEN marries Elias C. MORGAN in Henry Co GA. Judah Morgan will be living with her daughter Sallie Carpenter in 1880 AL.
1827 Record: Elias C. Morgan, spouse of Judah (Wilkins-Harlen) Morgan died. Andrew BAGGETT and Britton OSBURN became guardians of Elias' two minor children.
1827 Record: Ga, Henry County, Zachariah Carpenter witnesses for Thomas Carpenter
1827 Record: To be sold at the courthouse in the town of McDonough, Henry County on the first Tuesday in September 1827: "One silver watch, 3 cows and calves and 4 1/2 acres of corn, levied on as the property of Elias C. Morgan to satisfy cost in behalf of the state". [Judah Harlan's second husband either died or was imprisoned. Elia is Sarah's step father].
1828 Record: GA, Henry Co. Bond signed for $1500 between John Wilkens and Thomas Carpenter for Harlin** Orphans. Recorded in Henry Co.: Pg.74 & pg. 259 We, John R. Wilkens & Thomas Carpenter are held firmly bound by the sum of $1500, this 4 August 1828, Condition of obligation is such that John Wilkins is this day appointed guardian to Sallie, Jared (David), and John Harlin, orphans of Zachariah Harlin, deceased. Witness: Samuel Johnson C.C.O.
1828 Record: 1828 Henry Co GA Records Pg 74 John R. Wilkins named as guardian. Error as name listed as John K. Wilkins on pg. 259 (recorded 6-21-1834). Other name transcription error was middle name of orphan David Harlan on pg. 74 and named Jared on pg. 259.
1828 Land: The orphans of Zachariah Harland of Pools District of Walton County, Ga. drew land in the Georgia land lottery--202 1/2 acres in Muscogee Co. 18th district, 2nd section #249--dated 22 Dec 1828.
1828 Land: [source: book on Georgia Journal...issue 6 Nov 1828] Agreeably to an order of the Inferior Court of HENRY County..will be sold on the 1st Tuesday in January next, at the courthouse in Harris County, 202 1/2 acres of land, #249, in the 18th district of said county, drawn by the orphans of ZACHARIAH HARLIN, deceased, and sold for the benefit of said orphans ..signed...JOHN R. WILKINS, guardian.
1829 Land: Judith Harland, widow of Pools district of Walton Co, Ga drew land in the land lottery--202 1/2 acres in Muscogee Co, 18th district 2nd section #35 on 27 Jan 1829. [Our Judith Harland would be the widow Judah MORGAN in 1829].
1830 Census: GA, Henry Co, Thomas had 5 boys, 4 girls and a 50-60yr old man lived w/him. TOTAL 9 kids (3 born BEF 1820, 2 KIDS MISSING from prior census). His neighbors were FEARS & JORDAN (Fears adopted 1 of the HARLAN orphans that Thomas bonded for).
1830 WARREN CO GA CENSUS Page 206 Line 9 of 27 Thomas CARPENTER 10121001=1030001; No slaves; 11 people total. Neighbors on either side were FIELDS, JORDAN, FEARS, DOSS, RAY, and WILDER, BARRON, NEWMAN, TURNER, PERKINS. This shows Thomas as age 50-60, implying a birth year of 1770-1780.
1830 Census: SC, Edgefield [previously 96th Dist] lists a Adam Carpenter, John Carpenter, Reuben Carpenter, & R. Carpenter.
1831 Record: GA, Henry Co., Zachariah Carpenter sells land to Thomas Carpenter.
1832 Land: A Zach Carpenter won GA land lottery Cherokee 5th dist." Possibly the one b.1805.
1833 Record: A writ against Thomas, Zachariah and "Thomas M." Carpenters. GA TELEGRAPH NEWS of HENRY CO shows John Daily vs Thomas M, Zachariah & Thomas Carpenters in a FiFa suit over their 25 ac of land which Thos lives on next to Reuben Turner, Elisha Rogers & John R. WILKINS.
1834 Land: Fi Fa -DAILY vs Thomas, Zachariah and Thomas M Carpenters. GA TELEGRAPH NEWS of HENRY CO 3rd DIST Lot 81, John Daily vs Thomas, Zachariah & Thomas M. Carpenters in FiFa suit of 5 ac where Elisha Rogers now lives.
1838 Record: GA TELEGRAPH NEWS of HENRY CO, on Sunday the 14th, inst. by Thomas G. Barnett, Esq., Col. Warren CARPENTER was married to Miss Sarah HARLIN. All of Henry County. [Proof as Sallie Carpenter stated in her autobiography, she was married in her 19th yr].
1838 Record: GA, Henry Co. *DAILY vs Thomas, Zachariah and Thomas M Carpenters.
There are no records found yet for Thomas after 1838. He either died or left Henry County.
1840 Census: GA, Harris Co., Z. Carpenter with wife, 1 son and 3 daughters. [Remember the Harlen orphans had won land in Harris Co].
1840 Census: GA, Henry Co, Dist 641, Page 359 line 3 : Warren Carpenter 20-30, wife 20-30, dau 0-5, Male age 10-15 [prob John R. HARLEN], Fem age 15-20 [sister of Warren?]. Orphans living with Warren? LJ CALLOWAY 8 doors (Sallie's 1/2 sister). Wm FEARS guadian of Sallie's brother living 2 doors away. 00101=10011; No slaves, 5 total, 1 in agriculture.
1840 Census: GA, Henry Co: Thomas [M] Carpenter 1810-1820, wife 1810-1820, Son (Jas R) 1835-1840, Son (Wm) 1830-1835, Dau (Eliz) 1835-1840, Dau (Lucinda) 1835-1840, Dau (Mary) 1830-1835. Census Extractions for Henry Co GA, Page 356 Line 3 of 31 Thomas CARPENTER 11001=21001; No slaves, 7 total, 2 in agriculture. [Warren Carpenter is listed on page 359].
1843 Land: Harland orphans of Derrick's district of Henry Co, drew land in the 1832 GEORGIA LOTTERY #261 in 9 district, 1 section of Cherokee and #147 in 11 District, 2 section of Cherokee. Granted on 1 Jul 1843.
1843 Land: Elias Morgan's orphans [Sarah's 1/2 siblings] of Allens District of Henry County, drew land in 1832 GEORGIA LOTTERY in the 10th district of 2nd section in Cherokee #37. It was granted on 1 July 1843.
1844 Record: GA, Henry Co, James Warren Carpenter and Sarah (HARLIN) sue John Wilkens (probably her grandpa).
Pg 268 first Tuesday in Jan. Fi Fa. Superior Court of Henry Co. Suit of Warren Carpenter and Sarah, his wife, vs John R. Wilkens. At
public sale, William L. Fears was the highest bidder at $18 for 101 1/4 acres of land described as the East half of lot #169, Dist 6, where
Wilkins now lives. Wit: Stephen Malone Henry Banks, J.P. Recorded by John Godwin.
Pg 275 Jan. 2, Fi Fa Superior Court of Henry Co. Suit of Warren CARPENTER and John R WILKINS. William GLEATON was the highest bidder at public sale at $403 for 202 1/2 acres of land lying in Lot #106 Dist. 11. Wit: William Russell, John Vandigrift, J.P. John
Godwin, Clk.
1845 Record: GA, Henry Co., William J. FEARS (now guardian of John R. Harlin) vs John Wilkens and Warren Carpenter bought the land. Pg.545 First Tuesday in September. Fi Fa Superior Court of Henry Co. William J. FEARS , guardian of John R. Harlin vs. John R. WILKINS. At public sale, Warren Carpenter was the highest bidder at $5 for 101 1/4 acres of land described as the West half of Lot #213, Dist 6. Wit: E.M.Jacson, Henry Stokes, recorded Jan 10, 1846, Joh Godwin, Clk.
< THOMAS M CARPENTER MOVED TO RANDOLPH CO AL >
1845 Land: Thomas M. Carpenter of Randolph AL deed for NWNE 12/ 18-S 12-E No Huntsville AL Randolph.
1848 Land: GA, Henry Co. James Warren Carpenter sells his land and moves to ALA. Just as Sallie Carpenter wrote in her autobiography.
< JAMES WARREN CARPENTER MOVED TO RANDOLPH CO AL >
1849 Record: James Warren Carpenter's brother REUBEN L. CARPENTER married Emily GARRETT Jan 22. 1849 in Talladega. Ref: Jordan Dodd, Liahona Research.
1850 Census: Warren & Sally were double enumerated. Once in Talladega on Nov 5 and once in Randolph Co. on Dec 16.
AL, TALLADEGA, Warren Carpenter 1813 GA, Sarah 1820 GA, Elizabeth 1839 GA, Mary 1841 GA, Sarah 1843 GA, Marthena 1845 GA, Nancy 1846 GA, Thomas 1848 GA.
AL, RANDOLPH Bt11: Warren Carpenter 1815 GA, Sallie 1820 GA, Lydia 1838 GA, Ann 1840 GA, Abigail 1842 GA, Thenea 1844 GA, Nancy 1845 GA, Zach T. 1847 GA.
I don't know why they used the girl's first names in one census and their nicknames or middle names in the other, but they did. (Lydia Elizabeth, Mary Ann, Sarah Abigail). Note that the youngest son was referred to as Thomas in the first census and as Zach T. in the second. Warren and Sally lived next door to Warren's brother, Thomas M. Carpenter who also had a young son named Zach.
1850 Census: AL, Randolph Bt11: Thomas [M.] Carpenter 1810 GA, Lucinda 1811 GA, Mary 1833 GA, Wm 1835 GA, Eliz 1836 GA, Lucinda 1839 GA, Jas 1841 GA, John 1842 *AL, Jos 1843 AL, Lewis 1844 AL, Martha 1846 AL, Zach 1849 AL.
1850 Census: AL, Talladega Co., REUBEN [L] CARPENTER age 1829 Ga, Emily 1833 AL, Thomas age 1849 AL. Neighbors: Garrett, Moffett
Ten doors away was Emily's father Elijah GARRET who gave land to his daughter Emily Carpenter in 1869 who in turn donated the land for the New Macedonia Cemetery in Clay Co. In the old cemetery is James Warren & Sallie Carpenter and Reuben & Emily's son Elijah Thomas Carpenter. Ref: Horse & Buggy Days on Hachet Creek by Mitchell Bennet Garrett, Jr.
Note: Another Reuben Carpenter was listed with a wife Ellen in the Talladega census. That Reuben was born abt. 1807 SC. Reuben L. was born 1828 GA and living 25 doors from NATHANIEL MOFFETT b.1789 GA (his half-uncle).
1850 Census: GA, Harris Co. Z. [Zachariah] Carpenter age 45 GA, Margaret 29 GA, James W. 17 b.1833, Sarah M. 14, Abigail 13, Rebecca T. 7, Mary J. 10, Elizabeth 7. All born in GA. In the next census, James W will be living in Calhoun Co AL.
1850 Land: AL, Randolph, Warren & Sarah Carpenter of RANDOLPH buys in CLEBURNE. 3-1-1850 1 s1/2se sect 6/ 18-S 8-E N 80 acres.
1851 Land: AL, Clay Co, Warren Carpenter of TALLADEGA buys in CLAY (name William was scratched out and input Warren). 11-1-1851 swse sect 27/ 19-S 8-E N 40.1 acres Clay which was in same town & sect as John C. JORDAN who is buried in the same cemetery with them.
1852 Land: Warren Carpenter and wife Sarah of Talladega County sell 80 acres located in Randolph Co. to Asseneath DISON of Randolph Co. Notorized by *William W. WILKINS* 400 acres S1/2SE1/4 Sect 6 Township 18 Range 13 in Randolph Co. $400.00. Copy of deed in my possession.
In 1850 Randolph census, Warren & Sarah lived two doors from an Elizabeth DISON.
Warren's sister Elizabeth was married to William W. Wilkins.
1852 Land: James Warren Carpenter's brother Reuben L Carpenter of Talladega deeds 40 acres NWNW 34 19S 8E [Clay County].
1852 Record: AL, Talladega Co (Clay), Lucinda (Barrow) wife of Thomas M. Carpenter died in child birth July 1852. Bible record.
1853 Record; Thomas M. Carpenter's death recorded in Lipham Bible as 11/15/1853. Estate records show his administrator was THOMAS JACKSON. Thomas Jackson may have been the son of Thomas M. Carpenter's half aunt, MARGARET PEGGY (MOFFETT) JACKSON, wife of Nathan Jackson.
1854, Tax List, Thomas M. CARPENTER, District 9, Lot 170, Georgia Militia District 1006, Carroll Co., GA . Thomas JACKSON was administrator for Thomas M. CARPENTER, deceased. Number of acres 2nd quality, 202 acres; land value 1200; amount of money and solvent debts of all kinds 1000; aggregate value of all property 2200; value after deducting 200, 2000. Amount assessed at one per cent 1.80. Total taxes 3.24 (Thomas M. Carpenter entry Carroll County, Georgia Tax Digest 1854, 9th District, Georgia Militia District 1006; microfilm GRC 1-611; Neva Lomason Memorial Library, 710 Rome Street, Carrollton, Georgia, 30117). Information researched and contributed to me by Cindy Holdridge Smith.
1855, Tax List, Thomas M. CARPENTER, District 11, Lot 170, Harrilson, Georgia Militia District 1111, Carroll Co., GA . Thomas JACKSON was administrator of estate. (Thomas Carpenter entry Carroll County, Georgia Tax Digest 1855, 11th District, Georgia Militia District 1111; microfilm GRC 1-612; Neva Lomason Memorial Library, 710 Rome Street, Carrollton, Georgia, 30117) Information researched and contributed to me by Cindy Holdridge Smith.
1856, Tax List, Thomas M. CARPENTER, District 9, Lot 170, Georgia Militia District 1006, Carroll Co., GA. Amount of money and solvent debts of all kinds 1500; aggregate value of all property 1500; value after deducting 200, 1300. Thomas JACKSON was administrator of estate. (Thomas Jackson entry Carroll County, Georgia Tax Digest 1856, 9th District, Georgia Militia District 1006; microfilm GRC 1-612; Neva Lomason Memorial Library, 710 Rome Street, Carrollton, Georgia, 30117) Information researched and contributed to me by Cindy Holdridge Smith.
1856, Tax List, Thomas M. CARPENTER, District 9, Lot 170, Harrilson District Georgia Militia District 1111, Carroll Co., GA. [This looks like a duplication of the property and taxes recorded above in District 1006. District 1006 borders No. 1111 on the north.] The amount of money and solvent debts of all kinds is 1500; aggregate value of all property 1500; value after deducting 200, 1300. Thomas JACKSON was administrator of estate. (Thomas Jackson entry Carroll County, Georgia Tax Digest 1856, 9th District, Georgia Militia District 1111; microfilm GRC 1-612; Neva Lomason Memorial Library, 710 Rome Street, Carrollton, Georgia, 30117) Information researched and contributed to me by Cindy Holdridge Smith.
1854 Record: GA, Harris Co., Grand Lodge of GA lists a Zachariah Carpenter, tyler or taylor. [The Harlen orphans had won lottery land in Harris County].
1857 Record: James Warren Carpenter died in Talladega (now Clay) County AL. Buried in Old Macedonia Primitive Baptist Cemetery'. Inscription reads “King father of Love, thou art gone to thy rest, forever to bask mid the joys of the blest." Transcribed by descendant Robert Sprayberry.
1857 Record: Sallie's brother DAVID JERED HARLEN died between 1857-1859. His last child was born 1857 and his wife ADELINE (COOPER) is a widow in 1860.
1858 Record: Sallie's daughter (and namesake) Sarah Abigail Carpenter married THOMAS LEVI JOHNSON on 12 August 1858 in Talladega county Marriage Book B-1856 (1852-1864), page 253. Information supplied by descendant Richard Soard.
1859 Land: Warren Carpenter [Jr.] of Talladega records in Clay. sesw 27/19-S 8-E N 40.11 Clay. This is after the death of his father James Warren Carpenter, Sr. but is the same land his father bought in 1851. Deed recorded 1-1-1859 nwsw sect 27 19-S 8-E N 40.11 acres Clay.
1860 Census: AL, Talladega, S. [Sallie] Carpenter (widow) 40 GA farming, L.E. 20 AL, M.A. 18 GA, M.C. 16 GA, N.J. 14 GA, T? (f)12 GA, "Z." (m) 10 GA, E.C. 8 GA, J.W. (m) 4 GA. ..Neighbors: J.A. MORGAN 60 GA [Sallie's mother Judah] , PONDERS, BREWSTERS & COLEMANS.
1860 Census: AL, Calhoun James W. Carpenter b.1834.GA with wife Nancy Jane [GARRETT], daughter Frances age 4, son William H. age 1. This is the probable son of Zachariah Carpenter b.1805.
Both James Warren Carpenter (b.1813) and his brother Thomas M. Carpenter (b.1810) were dead by 1860. Some of Thomas M.'s younger children were taken in by the older siblings and relatives. In 1860, Robert A. Carpenter was living with his sister sister Mary L. & her husband Joseph TANNER. John W. Carpenter was living with Joseph Tanner's uncle Thomas J. MORRIS.
Zachariah & Lewis Carpenter may have been the Z. and L. Carpenter living with their Uncle Zac Carpenter in Harrison Co. TX. The two boys are tacked on the bottom of census which usually indicates a different parent or relationship.
1860 Census: TX, HARRISON, Z. Carpenter b.1808 GA, S.A. 1820 NC, W.A. 1855 GA, C.T. 1858 TX, H.A. 3mos TX, **L.1850 GA, **Z. 1848 GA "MAYBE this is Lewis & Zach the orphans of Thomas M. Carpenter?""
1860 Census: GA, CARROLL: John W. Carpenter (orphan) living with his brother in law, Jos. Tanner's uncle Thos J MORRIS 1828, Susan R. 1838, Henry 1855, Ida 1857, Talula 1 mo, John Carpenter b.1840.
1860 Census: Robert A Carpenter (orphan) in GA, CARROLL, with sister Mary L. [Carpenter] & Joseph TANNER.
1860 Census: James Warren Carpenter's brother Reuben L. Carpenter was living in AL, Talladega, R.L. Carpenter 31 GA (1829], E. 26 GA, MJ 9, JL 6 AL (male), J 4 AL (female), JL 3 AL (female), SA 1mos AL (female). Lived next door to his father in law ELIJAH GARRETT b. 1810 SC.
1862 Record: REUBEN L. CARPENTER died in the Civil War as noted by his son in a later news publication (see 1923). Reuben is probably the Reuben Carpenter buried in TN, Shelbyville CSA 25th AL INF Co. G who died Apr 17, 1862.
1870 Census: AL, Lineville, E. [Emily] Carpenter, widow 1834 GA, MJ 1852 AL, *John L 1854, Geonetta 1856, Julia Ann 1858, Ann S 1860, Sarah A 1863, Franklin McCAIN 1847 [probably a nephew as 2 of Emily's siblings married McCAINS. Neighbor: Sallie Carpenter.
*This is the John L. Carpenter who published a wedding anniversary announcement in 1923 and was the son of REUBEN CARPENTER who died in CSA and EMILY (Garrett) CARPENTER.
1870 Census: AL, Lineville, S Carpenter 1820 GA, Mathenia C 1844 GA, David H 1851 AL, James W 1856 AL, Judy MORGAN 1797 GA. This is Sallie Carpenter with her younger children and her mother.
1870 Census: Sallie Carpenter's daughter S.A. Johnson is living next to Sallie's brother, John R. HARLAN in GA, Coweta, Thomas L age 40 GA, Sarah A 30 GA, James L, Wm T., Nancy A, Emily F, Baby: NEIGHBOR: John R. HARLEN the uncle of Sarah A. (Carpenter) Johnson.
1880 Census: AL, Clay , Sallie Carpenter and her mother Judah (Wilkins) Harlen-Morgan are living with son James W. Carpenter Jr. under surname CARPNER. JW Carpner 24 GA, ME 20 GA, MA 1 AL, Sarah 60 GA, Juda Morgin 84 GA:NC:VA.
1880 Census: Sallie's brother John R. Harlen was dead and his widow SARAH (BRADBERRY) HARLEN had moved back to Henry County GA. Sarah (wdo) 1830 GA, Mary 1851, Malinda 1862, Josyphine 1864, William 1868. Neighbors: Elizabeth C [Morgan] CALLAWAY (Sallie & John R. Harlen's half sister).
1884 Record: Josephine (Moffettt) Robinson wrote a journal of her family history, including the Abigail Jordan Moffettt history. Josephine was the granddaughter of Abigail Jordan Carpenter & Thomas Moffettt. Ref: Steve Martonak research.
1906 Record: Sallie (Harlen) Carpenter saved letters from granddaughters Doris Z HAMNER, and Missouri L JOHNSON (wife of James H.)
1911 Record: Sallie (Harlen) Carpenter wrote her autobiography "The Peace" published in the Primitive Baptist.
1912 Record: Sallie (Harlen) Carpenter saved a letter from Simon LIPHAM in which he refers to her as his AUNT. Lucinda is the daughter of and Simon is the grandson of THOMAS M. CARPENTER **proving James Warren Carpenter & Thomas M. Carpenter were brothers**
1912 Record: Sarah saved letters from her daughter Sarah "Abbie" JOHNSON of Bear Creek ALA. She was the wife of THOMAS LEVI JOHNSON. Letter in possession of Merle Johnson's daughter Jackie.
1914 Record: ALA Death Index lists death date of Sarah (Harlen) Carpenter date as Jun 14 1914 instead of Jan 14, 1914. She was buried along side her husband in Old Macedonia Primitive Baptist Cemetery. Her tombstone reads, "Having served her generation by the will of God, she fell asleep." Thanks to Robert Sprayberry for transcription.
1923 Record: The Lineville Headlight printed this announcement: John L. Carpenter married Mary J. Hamlin on 11 Nov 1873 in Clay Co, AL recently celebrated their 50th wedding Anniversary. He was the son of REUBEN CARPENTER, an early settler of Alabama who was killed on the battlefield while
serving with the CSA.
1928 Record: The family of Mary Jamima Hamlin and John Lewis Carpenter are all identified in The Ashland Progress while reporting on Mary & John's 55th wedding anniversary.
1998 Record: The Thomas "M." Carpenter b.1810 lineage is confirmed by the Thomas Newton LIPHAM Family Bible record. The family Bible of Lucinda (Carpenter) LIPHAM transcribed by a HALPIN descendant, lists Thomas M. Carpenter's wife as Lucinda BARROW and also supplies names, birth and death records of the family. Some of the Liphams lived in Randolph Co AL and were still living in the area of the 1880 census and 1912 when Simon Lipham wrote Sallie Carpenter.
BASED ON PREPONDERANCE OF EVIDENCE, I BELIEVE THE FOLLOWING TO BE TRUE:
* THOMAS CARPENTER of Henry Co GA c.1785 was probably the son of Abigail Jordan & Mr. Carpenter.
* Thomas had brothers named Reuben & John Carpenter as well as Moffettt 1/2 brothers.
* Brother Reuben died in Edgefield County SC and some of his sons went to MS and on to TX.
****My father's DNA matches a descendant of the Reuben Carpenter who went to TX***
* Thomas had a total of "6" sons born between 1804 - 1830. I believe 4 of them were:
ZACHARIAH Carpenter c.1805
JAMES WARREN Carpenter b. Jan 21, 1813
THOMAS M. Carpenter b. Apr 23, 1810
REUBEN L. Carpenter b. Dec 14, 1828
He had 2 other sons. One was born 1804-1816. The other was born 1820-1825. He may have had sons between the 1830 census and 1838. He should have a son named John after his other brother. I have considered whether "any or none" of the below could have been sons:
John B. Carpenter c.1820 GA lived in Randolph Co AL in 1860.
Eli (Eleazer) Carpenter c.1823 GA deeded land Randolph Co AL 1851.
William Henry Carpenter c.1825 ? died CSA 1861-65 buried TN.
William Carpenter c.1830 GA living in Randolph AL 1850.
* Thomas had "4" daughters born 1810-1830. I believe one of them to be:
ELIZABETH Carpenter c.1820
Anyone having evidence showing this is wrong, PLEASE email me at dcuzze@earthlink.net.
CHILDREN OF ABIGAIL JORDAN CARPENTER & THOMAS MOFFETT
Thomas Moffett was born circa 1760 in SC. His father, James Moffett, had immigrated from Scotland; first living in SC and finally in Wilkes/Lincoln County GA. Josephine C. Robinson's diary stated that James' son, soldier Thomas Moffett, married the widow Abigail Jordan Carpenter after the American Revolution ended. Josephine went into a lot of detail about many descendants but I am only going to list Abigail's children briefly as they are half-siblings to our Carpenters. These children were all born in Jasper Co Georgia where Thomas and Abigail had relocated and were subsequently buried.
Margaret “Peggy” Moffett circa 1784 m. Nathan W. Jackson
James Moffett circa 1785 m. Sarah “Sally” Bellamy
Jacob Moffett circa 1790 m. Sarah H. Saunders
Nathan Moffett circa 1790 m. Mary
Jane Moffett circa 1794 m. David Hunter
Elizabeth Moffett circa 1796 m. Elijah Boynton
NOTE-1: Nathan Moffett moved to Talladega Co AL and lived near Thomas Carpenter's son Reuben L. Carpenter b.1828.
NOTE-2: Margaret's spouse was a JACKSON. When Thomas Carpenter's son Thomas M. Carpenter died, a Thomas JACKSON was administrator. I am unaware of any relationship between Margaret Moffett Jackson and Thomas Jackson but trying to find one.
BURIALS: Josephine C. Robinson's diary states that Thomas Moffett died age 59, Abigail Jordan Carpenter Moffett died Nov 4, 1822 and were both buried in a Baptist Church yard in Jasper Co GA.
From: Donna Cuzze
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:36 PM
... We know Thomas Moffett was living in WILKES / LINCOLN CO GA and that he and Abigail moved to Jasper Co GA after marriage. We know in 1794 that John & Thomas Carpenter paid taxes in WARREN GA and Reuben was living in EDGEFIELD SC in 1800. We know the three brothers bought land from James Moffett in 1805 LINCOLN GA. After that, Reuben lived in EDGEFIELD, Thomas went to HENRY GA and John stayed in LINCOLN GA until at least 1820.
...
**OF INTEREST !! In 1794 GA, WARREN CO, Thomas Carpenter was listed in GRAY's Dist . (Reuben's daughter married a James Gray). However, Thomas was born at earliest 1775 which means he was only 19 when taxed. There was also a JOSEPH CARPENTER on same page** Abigail was already married married to Moffett by 1794 but Joseph may have been a brother or grandfather of her unknown husband.
Donna
Updates by Donna
Son 3: THOMAS CARPENTER, soldier b: Bet. 1775 - 1780 in SC?
Migrated to SC, GA, Lincoln/Wilkes on Wells Creek, to Warren & Henry Co.
d: Bet. 1838 - 1840 in GA, Henry Co?
TAX RECORD: 1803 GA TAXROLL: John, Reuben and Thomas were listed on GA taxroll.
CENSUS-1: 1820 GA, WARREN (Oglesthorpe Co), Thomas b.1775-1794, Wife, 4 males under 16, 2 girls under 16, and 8 slaves. *Note Henry County not formed yet. John C. Jordan also on census.
CENSUS-2: 1830 GA, HENRY, Thos & Wife 1780-1790, Boy 1810-1815, 2-Boys 1815-1820, 3-Girls 1820-1825, Boy 1820-1825, Girl 1825-1830, Boy 1825-1830, MAN 1770-1780. TWO KIDS MISSING. Neighbors: FEARS & JORDAN
LAND-1: 1792 GA, LINCOLN, Jas Moffet of Wilkes Co to Thos Moffett, 250a in Wilkies on Wells Crk. Wit: John CARPENTER, Sarah McCLENDAL & Henry WARE.
LAND-2: 1793 SC, PENDLETON DIST, Thomas Carpenter 1000 acres on Cedar Creek [this would now be on Savannah River just NW of Barnes in Anderson Co].
LAND-3: 1801 GA, LINCOLN - Thomas Carpenter witnesses Charles & Amey JORDAN's land sale to John Chancey JORDAN (b.1784) who would be buried by Thomas Carpenter's son in Clay Co ALA in 1866.
LAND-4: 1803 GA, LINCOLN, Thos MOFFETT to Thos & Reuben CARPENTER 148a.
LAND-5: 1805 GA, LINCOLN -Henry, John & Thomas Carpenters were listed in Land Lottery.
LAND-6: November 20, 1805 GA, LINCOLN, Thos CARPENTER to Reuben CARPENTER 148a [where Thos Carp now lives] original sold them by Thos MOFFETT 1803. Mary CARPENTER also grantor. Wit: Nathan JACKSON and Edward HARDY.
LAND -7: Other land transactions exist in records Henry Co Ga w/his sons, Thos.M., Zach & Warren who go to ALA circa 1838. Thomas died then?
MILITARY: 1832 Thomas Carpenter, Soldier, of Thompson's, Henry Co, granted 1838 draw 191 of the 1832 GA Land Lottery in 7th Dist, 3rd Sect, Cherokee.
RECORD-1: July 10, 1833 GA TELEGRAPH NEWS of HENRY CO shows John Daily vs Thomas M, Zachariah & Thomas Carpenters in a FiFa suit over their 25 ac of land which Thos lives on next to Reub Turner, Elisha Rogers & John R. WILKINS.
RECORD-2: February 06, 1834 GA TELEGRAPH NEWS of HENRY CO 3rd DIST Lot 81, John Daily vs Thomas, Zachariah & Thomas M. Carpenters in FiFa suit of 5 ac where Elisha Rogers now lives.
RECORD-3: "Diary of Josephine C. Robinson" stated Abigail Jordan Carpenter had three sons named Thomas, Reuben and John.
DNA: Three persons who descend from Reuben Jr's line match my father's DNA (Thomas Carpenter line, the brother of Reuben Sr).
MARRIAGE: Thomas's wife was probably the Mary named in the land record of 1805.
CHILDREN OF THOMAS & MARY CARPENTER:
Unknown Son circa 1804-1816
Zachariah Lee? Carpenter 1805 speculated: m1.Unknown m2. Marg Jordan? m3. Carver?
Thomas M. Carpenter Apr 23, 1810 m1. Lucinda Barrow m2. Rutha Barrow
James Warren Carpenter Jan 21, 1813 m. Sarah Abigail Harlen
Elizabeth Carpenter abt 1815 m. William W. Wilkins
Abigail? Carpenter Nov 8, 1820 m. Moses Watts
Unknown Son circa 1820-1825
Unknown Dau circa 1822-1825
Unknown Dau circa 1825-1830
Reuben L. Carpenter Dec 14, 1828 m. Emily Garrett
Five of Thomas's children moved to Talladega County AL.
CONNECTING THOMAS CARPENTER - Part 1
by Donna Carpenter Cuzze
(revised June 2011) Permission needed for reprint.
DEDICATION:
Dedicated to my grandparents : John Barnett Carpenter and Mabel V. Cruise.
COMPILED FROM INFORMATION SUPPLIED BY: Richard O’Neal Carpenter, Pat Morgan-Lyons, Terry Carpenter, Steve Martonak, Sharon Patterson-Boling, Ginger Carpenter, Richard Soard, Lee Weaver, Beverly Key, Fred Summerlin, John Carpenter, Gail Elliott-Tucker, Nobie Carpenter-Hallmark & others, census records, Lincoln, Wilkes & Henry County GA records, Clay County AL records, LDS Family Centers, Findagrave and personal knowledge of descendants and others. Information collected between 1995 and 2008, updated 2011.
MY LINE:
My Carpenter line spent many years in Clay County Alabama. JAMES WARREN CARPENTER b.1813 was my 3rd great grandpa. His wife was SARAH ABIGAIL “SALLIE” HARLEN. They moved from Henry Co GA to Alabama in 1848. I have spent eleven years gathering records on this line. Based on preponderance of the evidence I found, I believe my 4th great grandfather was THOMAS CARPENTER who lived in Henry County GA circa early 1800s.
EVIDENCE:
My 3rd great grandmother, Sallie [Harlen] Carpenter, lived to be 94 years old. In her 91st year, she wrote a testimonial for the church. In it she stated her mother was Judah WILKINS and her father was Zachariah HARLEN who died when she was 4 yrs old. She said she married her husband, WARREN CARPENTER, in Henry County when she was 19 and consequently moved to Alabama in 1848. That same year she named her baby boy Zachariah Thomas Carpenter which appears to be after each of the grandpas.
I found Thomas Carpenter listed in the 1820 Warren County census [Henry Co. wasn't formed yet] with wife, 4 sons born 1804-1820 and 2 daughters b. 1804-1816. James Warren Carpenter was born 1813.
Pat Morgan-Lyons found documents that Sarah's father, Zachariah Harlen, was murdered in 1824 Greene Co, GA. Sarah would have been about 4 yrs old per her testimonial
Richard O. Carpenter found Henry County Georgia court records showing Sallie's guardianship was bonded by: THOMAS CARPENTER and JOHN R. WILKINS in 1828.
I found Thomas Carpenter listed in the 1830 Henry County census with wife, 5 boys, 4 girls and a 60-70 yr old man. One of his sons born before 1820 had moved out of the home making him have a total of SIX BOYS. There was only 1 Thomas Carpenter in the census.
I found documents showing James Warren Carpenter was married in 1838 Henry County Georgia to SARAH HARLIN.
I found a WILLIAM WILKINS who married ELIZABETH CARPENTER in Henry Co GA, also in 1838 like James Warren Carpenter and Sarah Harlin. I believe Elizabeth was a daughter of Thomas Carpenter and William was a relative of Sarah's mother, Judah (Wilkins) Harlen.
In 1833, the GA Telegraph News of Henry County shows tax liens on the property of:
Thomas M Carpenter - Zachariah Carpenter - & Thomas Carpenter in a FiFa suit over their 25 acres of land on which Thomas is living next to Reuben Turner, Elisha Rogers & John R. WILKINS.
I found Warren Carpenter listed in the 1840 Henry County census with wife and a daughter and another couple living in the home.
I found record that in 1844, Sarah & James Warren Carpenter sued John R. WILKINS (possibly for his Sarah's estate that John R. Wilkins controlled).
I found record that in 1848, Sarah & James Warren Carpenter moved to Alabama and in the Randolph County 1850 census they are living ""next door to Thomas M. Carpenter"" both Thomas M and Warren stated they were born in GA. In addition, Warren & Sarah's land deed was notorized by William W. WILKINS (spouse of Elizabeth Carpenter).
Photos of Sarah [Harlin] Carpenter in the possession of the family.
BASED ON THE ABOVE AND EVIDENCE IN PART 2, I am convinced that Thomas Carpenter was the father of James Warren Carpenter.
PART 2
WAS THOMAS CARPENTER OF HENRY CO GA
related to
EDGEFIELD SC CARPENTERS ?
An earlier research by Mrs. Ross on the Alabama families stated Thomas Carpenter's father was Reuben S. Carpenter of Edgefield SC. However, I found some discrepancies and have made changes to my outline "excluding" the idea that Reuben was my Thomas's father. However, Reuben Sr. of Edgefield did a son named Thomas born circa 1800. I believe my Thomas to be the "brother" of John & Reuben Carpenters, born circa 1776-1785 and that their father was Unknown Carpenter and their mother was ABIGAIL JORDAN who married 2nd Thomas Moffettt.
According to a diary written 1884 by Josephine C. Robinson, Abigail Jordan and an unknown Carpenter (who died ) had three sons... John, Reuben & Thomas. Abigail was a noblewoman and the Carpenters and Jordans were well off. Abigail had lived in SC, moved to Lincoln Co. GA and remarried to Thomas Moffettt in GA. Abigail and Thomas Moffettt had four sons, Thomas, Nathan, Jacob and James Moffettt. Some researchers believe these Carpenter & Moffett brothers to be the children that lived in Henry County GA circa early 1800s. Records show Thomas Carpenter witnessing a land transaction for Jordans as early as 1805. There are other indications the Moffett and Carpenter families are connected as shown on Steve Martonak's website http://users.ticnet.com/shmartonak/Moffettt.htm Steve was so gracious to contact me and share all his research with me. These deeds are posted on his website showing the many interactions of Carpenters, Moffetts and Jordans:
LINCOLN CO DEED BOOKS
Lincoln County Genealogy and History
Compiled by: Robert S Davis Jr and James E Dorsey
Published by: Magnolia Press; PO Box 3; Swainsboro GA
Copyright 1987 by Magnolia Press
[pg 79][Deedbook E, 1805-1809]
THOMAS MoffettT to THOMAS CARPENTER and REUBEN CARPENTER.
27 August 1803. Deed for 148 acres. Witnessed: Chas. Ashley, Francis
Pickett, and R.F. Winn, J.P. Registered March 5, 1806.
Pages 45-6.
[pg 79][Deedbook E, 1805-1809]
THOMAS CARPENTER to REUBEN CARPENTER. 20 November 1805.
Deed for 148 acres sold by THOMAS MoffettT
to THOMAS and REUBEN CARPENTER 27 August 1803.
Where THOMAS CARPENTER now resides. MARY* CARPENTER also signs as a grantor and by mark. Witnessed: Nathan JACKSON and Edward Hardy. Registered Mar 4, 1806. Pgs 43-4.
*Note Mary Carpenter is "selling" her interest as probable wife of Thomas.
**Reuben Carpenter is buying out his father's or his brother's (Thomas's) share in 1805. This Reuben's descendants are probably the ones that went to Chickasaw MS.
You can see they definitely knew each other. And if you will notice the name Nathan Jackson, he was Abigail & Thomas Moffett's son in law who was witnessing the deed of the Carpenter boys. He was the uncle of their half-aunt Margaret Peggy Moffettt Jackson. My work presumes the three Carpenter boys, the Moffetts and the Jordans living in the same general area of Lincoln / Henry Counties in GA circa early 1800s, were related. Rueben and Thomas Carpenter's descendants have continued using the names Thomas, Zachariah & Rueben through the current years.
Here are some more records and notes:
In 1803 -John, Rueben and Thomas CARPENTERS were listed in the GA Taxroll.
In 1805 -Henry, John and Thomas CARPENTERS were listed in the Lincoln Co. GA Land Lottery.
a) Thomas Sr. and his brother Reuben Sr. each named sons Thomas and Reuben. Thomas Sr.'s sons Thomas M. and Reuben L. both named sons Lewis and Thomas.
b) There was a Zachariah Carpenter born c.1805 living in Henry County GA who is named in fi-fa suits with Thomas, Rueben L. & Thomas M Carpenters as either co-defendants or co-complaintaints. This definitely proves a relationship.
c) Since Thomas was named along with Zachariah in land transactions and witnessed transactions for Thomas and vice versa as early as 1827, and assuming one should be 16 +yrs old to sign, then Zachariah was probably born before 1811. Zachariah sold land to Thomas in 1831 which might indicate he is same age or older than Thomas. I believe Zach was the son of Thomas.
d) My grandfather told me that his brother, Zackie, was named for an ancestor who went to war and never returned. That could have been his 3rd great grandpa Zachariah Harlen who we know was killed 1824 by White Caps but I tend to think it was Zachariah Carpenter of Henry Co born c.1805 as he is mentioned in records with Thomas Carpenter and disappears from Henry County about 1838. Then it appears the same Zac of Henry County is living in Harris County GA in 1840-1850 who has a son named James Warren and a daughter named Abigail. The son, James Warren Carpenter born c.1833 is living in Calhoun County AL in 1860 and has a son named ZACHARIAH. He married Nancy Jane GARRETT, daughter of Elijah Garrett and sister of Emily Garrett who married Reuben L. Carpenter. I believe James Warren (b.1833) and Reuben L (b.1828) to be cousins. In 1854 Harris County Grand Lodge was listed a Zachariah Carpenter, by trade a tyler or tailor. I have not found any more records yet of Zach b.1805 after 1854. I suspect he went to war in 1861-1865 and never returned. However, he may have adopted his brother Thomas M. Carpenter's sons Lewis and Zachariah and moved to Harrison County Texas.
1911 Sallie (Harlen) Carpenter wrote an autobiography and testimony to her church which was published in the Primitive Baptist. She stated she was 91 years old, her father died when she was about 4 while moving from Wilkes to Henry County. Said her mother was Judah WILKINS and her father was Zachariah HARLEN. She said she married WARREN CARPENTER when she was 19. She stated they moved to AL in 1848. They put their letters in the Bethlehem Baptist Church which was on the Georgia side of the state line though they physically lived on the Alabama side. They finally settled within 2 miles of the Macedonia Primitive Baptist Church in Clay County AL (where she was buried in 1914). Stated she had 9 children leaving 266 descendants. This was a touching and moving testimonial titled “The Peace.”
1998 the LIPHAM Family Bible was transcribed containing the descendants of THOMAS M. CARPENTER.
Armed with the above information and the Abigail Moffettt story and information from Terry Carpenter, Richard O. Carpenter, other cousins and researchers, I was able to put all the pieces together. I have made a time line of the records of these families (below). Thanks to all who contributed !
THE RECORDS TIMELINE
1780's : The only Carpenter in the Reconstructed Georgia census is Baley (Bailey) Carpenter in Burke County. This is consistent with the theory that our Carpenters were in South Carolina until Abigail's spouse died circa 1782.
1790 SC : Only 3 Carpenters are listed in what is left of the 1790 census of SC. They are as follows:
Pendleton Dist: BOSTEN CARPENTER born bef 1774, 2 males 1775-1790, 3 females.
Pendleton Dist: WILLIAM CARPENTER born bef 1774, 1 male 1775-1790, 4 females.
Charleston Co: JAMES CARPENTER born bef 1774, 1 male 1775-1790, 2 females.
The man we are looking for would have 3 males in his home in 1790, so I eliminated these. Our Reuben lived in Edgefield SC in 1800 so that may be where his family was from, but census records didn't make it.
1792 Land: GA, LINCOLN, James Moffet of Wilkes Co to Thos Moffett, 250a in Wilkies on Wells Crk. Wit: JOHN CARPENTER, Sarah McClendal & Henry Ware.
1801 Land: GA, Lincoln, Thomas Carpenter witnesses Charles JORDAN land sale. [pg 61][Deedbook D, 1803-1805] Charles Jordan and Amey his wife to John Chancey Jordan (could this be Rev. John C. JORDAN buried in Clay Co. b. 1784 d.1866?).
1801 Land: GA, Lincoln, Deed for 100 acres, part of 750 acres granted to Zachariah JORDAN 17 January 1787. It is on Cherokee Creek adjoining Thomas WADSWORTH, Elijah OFIELD, and TRIPLETT. Charles & Amey JORDAN witness
1801 Record: GA, Lincoln [pg 210][Inferior Court Minutes][July Term, 1801 (sic)] 1. Petit jury: { 48 men including John Carpenter, Jacob Jorden }
1803 Record: GA, Lincoln [pg 213][Inferior Court Minutes][July Term 1803] 1. Jurors (future term): {48 men including Thomas Carpenter, Samuel Jorden, Hardy Hunter, Hashley Warren }
1803 Land: GA, Lincoln [pg 79][Deedbook E, 1805-1809] THOMAS MoffettT to THOMAS CARPENTER and REUBEN CARPENTER. 27 August 1803. Deed for 148 acres. Witnessed: Chas. Ashley, Francis Pickett, and R.F. Winn, J.P. Registered March 5, 1806. Pages 45-6.
1805 Land: GA, Lincoln [pg 79][Deedbook E, 1805-1809] THOMAS CARPENTER to REUBEN CARPENTER. 20 November 1805. [Chain} Deed for 148 acres sold by THOMAS MOFFETT to THOMAS and REUBEN CARPENTER 27 August 1803. Where THOMAS CARPENTER now resides.
MARY* CARPENTER also signs as a grantor and by mark. Witnessed: Nathan JACKSON and Edward Hardy. Registered March 4, 1806. Pgs 43-4. Mary was giving up her right to the land and thus was probably Thomas's wife, mother or sister.
1810 Census: GA, Lincoln Co. Capt Jordan Leverett's District 1. JOHN CARPENTER lived next to JOHN C. JORDAN. " Also there was an Edward MORGAN in Dist 3 and a John MORGAN is Dist 5.
There is a 15 year gap before any more records are found on Thomas or Reuben.
1820 Census: GA, Warren/Oglethorpe Co, Thomas Carpenter b.1775-1794, Wife, 4 males under 16, 2 girls under 16, and 8 slaves. *Note Henry County not formed yet. John C. Jordan also on census.
1820 Census: Wilkes County, Georgia, page 192: Zachariah Harlen-1 male 16/26-1 female under 10-1 female 26/45. This confirms Sallie (Harlen) Carpenter's story that she was born in Wilkes.
1822 Record: An 1844 diary records Abigail (Jordan) Moffettt's death in 1822 and burial in Jasper Co. GA.
1823 Land: pg 232 Henry Co. GA, Charles JOURDAN sold to Jesse JOHNSON on Feb. 28, 1823, Dist. 9, one half, being the East half of Lot #98 for $150, Recorded July 11, 1823. Wit: Hugh LONGINO J.P., Asa HEARN, Thomas CARPENTER.
note: Two of Thomas' grandchilden marry JOHNSONS (Sarah Abigail m. Thomas L. JOHNSON in Henry Co. and Zachariah Thomas Carpenter md. Mattie J. JOHNSON in 1869 ALA.)
1824 Record: Reward offered in Greene Co GA for Peter Early, murderer of Zachariah HARLEN. This confirms Sallie's story. Thanks to Pat Morgan-Lyons for finding this and Ginger Carpenter for getting a copy of the original.
State of Georgia, by His Excellency George M. Troup, Governor....Whereas, I have received official information by the report of the Coroner of the county of Greene, in this state, that PETER A. EARLEY did, on the 17th inst., commit an aggravated murder on the body of ZACHARIAH Harlen, in said county. And whereas it is represented to me that the said Peter A. Earley has absconded, or conceals himself from justice; I have therefore thought proper to issue this my Proclamation, hereby offering a reward of $250.00....Given under my hand...at the State-house in Milledgeville, this 27th day of December, 1824...signed George M. Troup. By the Governor...signed E. Hamilton, Secretary of State.
Note...Peter A. Earley is fair complected, light hair and blue eyes, about 5 feet 9 inches high, near 20 years of age.
1826 Record: Judah HARLEN marries Elias C. MORGAN in Henry Co GA. Judah Morgan will be living with her daughter Sallie Carpenter in 1880 AL.
1827 Record: Elias C. Morgan, spouse of Judah (Wilkins-Harlen) Morgan died. Andrew BAGGETT and Britton OSBURN became guardians of Elias' two minor children.
1827 Record: Ga, Henry County, Zachariah Carpenter witnesses for Thomas Carpenter
1827 Record: To be sold at the courthouse in the town of McDonough, Henry County on the first Tuesday in September 1827: "One silver watch, 3 cows and calves and 4 1/2 acres of corn, levied on as the property of Elias C. Morgan to satisfy cost in behalf of the state". [Judah Harlan's second husband either died or was imprisoned. Elia is Sarah's step father].
1828 Record: GA, Henry Co. Bond signed for $1500 between John Wilkens and Thomas Carpenter for Harlin** Orphans. Recorded in Henry Co.: Pg.74 & pg. 259 We, John R. Wilkens & Thomas Carpenter are held firmly bound by the sum of $1500, this 4 August 1828, Condition of obligation is such that John Wilkins is this day appointed guardian to Sallie, Jared (David), and John Harlin, orphans of Zachariah Harlin, deceased. Witness: Samuel Johnson C.C.O.
1828 Record: 1828 Henry Co GA Records Pg 74 John R. Wilkins named as guardian. Error as name listed as John K. Wilkins on pg. 259 (recorded 6-21-1834). Other name transcription error was middle name of orphan David Harlan on pg. 74 and named Jared on pg. 259.
1828 Land: The orphans of Zachariah Harland of Pools District of Walton County, Ga. drew land in the Georgia land lottery--202 1/2 acres in Muscogee Co. 18th district, 2nd section #249--dated 22 Dec 1828.
1828 Land: [source: book on Georgia Journal...issue 6 Nov 1828] Agreeably to an order of the Inferior Court of HENRY County..will be sold on the 1st Tuesday in January next, at the courthouse in Harris County, 202 1/2 acres of land, #249, in the 18th district of said county, drawn by the orphans of ZACHARIAH HARLIN, deceased, and sold for the benefit of said orphans ..signed...JOHN R. WILKINS, guardian.
1829 Land: Judith Harland, widow of Pools district of Walton Co, Ga drew land in the land lottery--202 1/2 acres in Muscogee Co, 18th district 2nd section #35 on 27 Jan 1829. [Our Judith Harland would be the widow Judah MORGAN in 1829].
1830 Census: GA, Henry Co, Thomas had 5 boys, 4 girls and a 50-60yr old man lived w/him. TOTAL 9 kids (3 born BEF 1820, 2 KIDS MISSING from prior census). His neighbors were FEARS & JORDAN (Fears adopted 1 of the HARLAN orphans that Thomas bonded for).
1830 WARREN CO GA CENSUS Page 206 Line 9 of 27 Thomas CARPENTER 10121001=1030001; No slaves; 11 people total. Neighbors on either side were FIELDS, JORDAN, FEARS, DOSS, RAY, and WILDER, BARRON, NEWMAN, TURNER, PERKINS. This shows Thomas as age 50-60, implying a birth year of 1770-1780.
1830 Census: SC, Edgefield [previously 96th Dist] lists a Adam Carpenter, John Carpenter, Reuben Carpenter, & R. Carpenter.
1831 Record: GA, Henry Co., Zachariah Carpenter sells land to Thomas Carpenter.
1832 Land: A Zach Carpenter won GA land lottery Cherokee 5th dist." Possibly the one b.1805.
1833 Record: A writ against Thomas, Zachariah and "Thomas M." Carpenters. GA TELEGRAPH NEWS of HENRY CO shows John Daily vs Thomas M, Zachariah & Thomas Carpenters in a FiFa suit over their 25 ac of land which Thos lives on next to Reuben Turner, Elisha Rogers & John R. WILKINS.
1834 Land: Fi Fa -DAILY vs Thomas, Zachariah and Thomas M Carpenters. GA TELEGRAPH NEWS of HENRY CO 3rd DIST Lot 81, John Daily vs Thomas, Zachariah & Thomas M. Carpenters in FiFa suit of 5 ac where Elisha Rogers now lives.
1838 Record: GA TELEGRAPH NEWS of HENRY CO, on Sunday the 14th, inst. by Thomas G. Barnett, Esq., Col. Warren CARPENTER was married to Miss Sarah HARLIN. All of Henry County. [Proof as Sallie Carpenter stated in her autobiography, she was married in her 19th yr].
1838 Record: GA, Henry Co. *DAILY vs Thomas, Zachariah and Thomas M Carpenters.
There are no records found yet for Thomas after 1838. He either died or left Henry County.
1840 Census: GA, Harris Co., Z. Carpenter with wife, 1 son and 3 daughters. [Remember the Harlen orphans had won land in Harris Co].
1840 Census: GA, Henry Co, Dist 641, Page 359 line 3 : Warren Carpenter 20-30, wife 20-30, dau 0-5, Male age 10-15 [prob John R. HARLEN], Fem age 15-20 [sister of Warren?]. Orphans living with Warren? LJ CALLOWAY 8 doors (Sallie's 1/2 sister). Wm FEARS guadian of Sallie's brother living 2 doors away. 00101=10011; No slaves, 5 total, 1 in agriculture.
1840 Census: GA, Henry Co: Thomas [M] Carpenter 1810-1820, wife 1810-1820, Son (Jas R) 1835-1840, Son (Wm) 1830-1835, Dau (Eliz) 1835-1840, Dau (Lucinda) 1835-1840, Dau (Mary) 1830-1835. Census Extractions for Henry Co GA, Page 356 Line 3 of 31 Thomas CARPENTER 11001=21001; No slaves, 7 total, 2 in agriculture. [Warren Carpenter is listed on page 359].
1843 Land: Harland orphans of Derrick's district of Henry Co, drew land in the 1832 GEORGIA LOTTERY #261 in 9 district, 1 section of Cherokee and #147 in 11 District, 2 section of Cherokee. Granted on 1 Jul 1843.
1843 Land: Elias Morgan's orphans [Sarah's 1/2 siblings] of Allens District of Henry County, drew land in 1832 GEORGIA LOTTERY in the 10th district of 2nd section in Cherokee #37. It was granted on 1 July 1843.
1844 Record: GA, Henry Co, James Warren Carpenter and Sarah (HARLIN) sue John Wilkens (probably her grandpa).
Pg 268 first Tuesday in Jan. Fi Fa. Superior Court of Henry Co. Suit of Warren Carpenter and Sarah, his wife, vs John R. Wilkens. At
public sale, William L. Fears was the highest bidder at $18 for 101 1/4 acres of land described as the East half of lot #169, Dist 6, where
Wilkins now lives. Wit: Stephen Malone Henry Banks, J.P. Recorded by John Godwin.
Pg 275 Jan. 2, Fi Fa Superior Court of Henry Co. Suit of Warren CARPENTER and John R WILKINS. William GLEATON was the highest bidder at public sale at $403 for 202 1/2 acres of land lying in Lot #106 Dist. 11. Wit: William Russell, John Vandigrift, J.P. John
Godwin, Clk.
1845 Record: GA, Henry Co., William J. FEARS (now guardian of John R. Harlin) vs John Wilkens and Warren Carpenter bought the land. Pg.545 First Tuesday in September. Fi Fa Superior Court of Henry Co. William J. FEARS , guardian of John R. Harlin vs. John R. WILKINS. At public sale, Warren Carpenter was the highest bidder at $5 for 101 1/4 acres of land described as the West half of Lot #213, Dist 6. Wit: E.M.Jacson, Henry Stokes, recorded Jan 10, 1846, Joh Godwin, Clk.
< THOMAS M CARPENTER MOVED TO RANDOLPH CO AL >
1845 Land: Thomas M. Carpenter of Randolph AL deed for NWNE 12/ 18-S 12-E No Huntsville AL Randolph.
1848 Land: GA, Henry Co. James Warren Carpenter sells his land and moves to ALA. Just as Sallie Carpenter wrote in her autobiography.
< JAMES WARREN CARPENTER MOVED TO RANDOLPH CO AL >
1849 Record: James Warren Carpenter's brother REUBEN L. CARPENTER married Emily GARRETT Jan 22. 1849 in Talladega. Ref: Jordan Dodd, Liahona Research.
1850 Census: Warren & Sally were double enumerated. Once in Talladega on Nov 5 and once in Randolph Co. on Dec 16.
AL, TALLADEGA, Warren Carpenter 1813 GA, Sarah 1820 GA, Elizabeth 1839 GA, Mary 1841 GA, Sarah 1843 GA, Marthena 1845 GA, Nancy 1846 GA, Thomas 1848 GA.
AL, RANDOLPH Bt11: Warren Carpenter 1815 GA, Sallie 1820 GA, Lydia 1838 GA, Ann 1840 GA, Abigail 1842 GA, Thenea 1844 GA, Nancy 1845 GA, Zach T. 1847 GA.
I don't know why they used the girl's first names in one census and their nicknames or middle names in the other, but they did. (Lydia Elizabeth, Mary Ann, Sarah Abigail). Note that the youngest son was referred to as Thomas in the first census and as Zach T. in the second. Warren and Sally lived next door to Warren's brother, Thomas M. Carpenter who also had a young son named Zach.
1850 Census: AL, Randolph Bt11: Thomas [M.] Carpenter 1810 GA, Lucinda 1811 GA, Mary 1833 GA, Wm 1835 GA, Eliz 1836 GA, Lucinda 1839 GA, Jas 1841 GA, John 1842 *AL, Jos 1843 AL, Lewis 1844 AL, Martha 1846 AL, Zach 1849 AL.
1850 Census: AL, Talladega Co., REUBEN [L] CARPENTER age 1829 Ga, Emily 1833 AL, Thomas age 1849 AL. Neighbors: Garrett, Moffett
Ten doors away was Emily's father Elijah GARRET who gave land to his daughter Emily Carpenter in 1869 who in turn donated the land for the New Macedonia Cemetery in Clay Co. In the old cemetery is James Warren & Sallie Carpenter and Reuben & Emily's son Elijah Thomas Carpenter. Ref: Horse & Buggy Days on Hachet Creek by Mitchell Bennet Garrett, Jr.
Note: Another Reuben Carpenter was listed with a wife Ellen in the Talladega census. That Reuben was born abt. 1807 SC. Reuben L. was born 1828 GA and living 25 doors from NATHANIEL MOFFETT b.1789 GA (his half-uncle).
1850 Census: GA, Harris Co. Z. [Zachariah] Carpenter age 45 GA, Margaret 29 GA, James W. 17 b.1833, Sarah M. 14, Abigail 13, Rebecca T. 7, Mary J. 10, Elizabeth 7. All born in GA. In the next census, James W will be living in Calhoun Co AL.
1850 Land: AL, Randolph, Warren & Sarah Carpenter of RANDOLPH buys in CLEBURNE. 3-1-1850 1 s1/2se sect 6/ 18-S 8-E N 80 acres.
1851 Land: AL, Clay Co, Warren Carpenter of TALLADEGA buys in CLAY (name William was scratched out and input Warren). 11-1-1851 swse sect 27/ 19-S 8-E N 40.1 acres Clay which was in same town & sect as John C. JORDAN who is buried in the same cemetery with them.
1852 Land: Warren Carpenter and wife Sarah of Talladega County sell 80 acres located in Randolph Co. to Asseneath DISON of Randolph Co. Notorized by *William W. WILKINS* 400 acres S1/2SE1/4 Sect 6 Township 18 Range 13 in Randolph Co. $400.00. Copy of deed in my possession.
In 1850 Randolph census, Warren & Sarah lived two doors from an Elizabeth DISON.
Warren's sister Elizabeth was married to William W. Wilkins.
1852 Land: James Warren Carpenter's brother Reuben L Carpenter of Talladega deeds 40 acres NWNW 34 19S 8E [Clay County].
1852 Record: AL, Talladega Co (Clay), Lucinda (Barrow) wife of Thomas M. Carpenter died in child birth July 1852. Bible record.
1853 Record; Thomas M. Carpenter's death recorded in Lipham Bible as 11/15/1853. Estate records show his administrator was THOMAS JACKSON. Thomas Jackson may have been the son of Thomas M. Carpenter's half aunt, MARGARET PEGGY (MOFFETT) JACKSON, wife of Nathan Jackson.
1854, Tax List, Thomas M. CARPENTER, District 9, Lot 170, Georgia Militia District 1006, Carroll Co., GA . Thomas JACKSON was administrator for Thomas M. CARPENTER, deceased. Number of acres 2nd quality, 202 acres; land value 1200; amount of money and solvent debts of all kinds 1000; aggregate value of all property 2200; value after deducting 200, 2000. Amount assessed at one per cent 1.80. Total taxes 3.24 (Thomas M. Carpenter entry Carroll County, Georgia Tax Digest 1854, 9th District, Georgia Militia District 1006; microfilm GRC 1-611; Neva Lomason Memorial Library, 710 Rome Street, Carrollton, Georgia, 30117). Information researched and contributed to me by Cindy Holdridge Smith.
1855, Tax List, Thomas M. CARPENTER, District 11, Lot 170, Harrilson, Georgia Militia District 1111, Carroll Co., GA . Thomas JACKSON was administrator of estate. (Thomas Carpenter entry Carroll County, Georgia Tax Digest 1855, 11th District, Georgia Militia District 1111; microfilm GRC 1-612; Neva Lomason Memorial Library, 710 Rome Street, Carrollton, Georgia, 30117) Information researched and contributed to me by Cindy Holdridge Smith.
1856, Tax List, Thomas M. CARPENTER, District 9, Lot 170, Georgia Militia District 1006, Carroll Co., GA. Amount of money and solvent debts of all kinds 1500; aggregate value of all property 1500; value after deducting 200, 1300. Thomas JACKSON was administrator of estate. (Thomas Jackson entry Carroll County, Georgia Tax Digest 1856, 9th District, Georgia Militia District 1006; microfilm GRC 1-612; Neva Lomason Memorial Library, 710 Rome Street, Carrollton, Georgia, 30117) Information researched and contributed to me by Cindy Holdridge Smith.
1856, Tax List, Thomas M. CARPENTER, District 9, Lot 170, Harrilson District Georgia Militia District 1111, Carroll Co., GA. [This looks like a duplication of the property and taxes recorded above in District 1006. District 1006 borders No. 1111 on the north.] The amount of money and solvent debts of all kinds is 1500; aggregate value of all property 1500; value after deducting 200, 1300. Thomas JACKSON was administrator of estate. (Thomas Jackson entry Carroll County, Georgia Tax Digest 1856, 9th District, Georgia Militia District 1111; microfilm GRC 1-612; Neva Lomason Memorial Library, 710 Rome Street, Carrollton, Georgia, 30117) Information researched and contributed to me by Cindy Holdridge Smith.
1854 Record: GA, Harris Co., Grand Lodge of GA lists a Zachariah Carpenter, tyler or taylor. [The Harlen orphans had won lottery land in Harris County].
1857 Record: James Warren Carpenter died in Talladega (now Clay) County AL. Buried in Old Macedonia Primitive Baptist Cemetery'. Inscription reads “King father of Love, thou art gone to thy rest, forever to bask mid the joys of the blest." Transcribed by descendant Robert Sprayberry.
1857 Record: Sallie's brother DAVID JERED HARLEN died between 1857-1859. His last child was born 1857 and his wife ADELINE (COOPER) is a widow in 1860.
1858 Record: Sallie's daughter (and namesake) Sarah Abigail Carpenter married THOMAS LEVI JOHNSON on 12 August 1858 in Talladega county Marriage Book B-1856 (1852-1864), page 253. Information supplied by descendant Richard Soard.
1859 Land: Warren Carpenter [Jr.] of Talladega records in Clay. sesw 27/19-S 8-E N 40.11 Clay. This is after the death of his father James Warren Carpenter, Sr. but is the same land his father bought in 1851. Deed recorded 1-1-1859 nwsw sect 27 19-S 8-E N 40.11 acres Clay.
1860 Census: AL, Talladega, S. [Sallie] Carpenter (widow) 40 GA farming, L.E. 20 AL, M.A. 18 GA, M.C. 16 GA, N.J. 14 GA, T? (f)12 GA, "Z." (m) 10 GA, E.C. 8 GA, J.W. (m) 4 GA. ..Neighbors: J.A. MORGAN 60 GA [Sallie's mother Judah] , PONDERS, BREWSTERS & COLEMANS.
1860 Census: AL, Calhoun James W. Carpenter b.1834.GA with wife Nancy Jane [GARRETT], daughter Frances age 4, son William H. age 1. This is the probable son of Zachariah Carpenter b.1805.
Both James Warren Carpenter (b.1813) and his brother Thomas M. Carpenter (b.1810) were dead by 1860. Some of Thomas M.'s younger children were taken in by the older siblings and relatives. In 1860, Robert A. Carpenter was living with his sister sister Mary L. & her husband Joseph TANNER. John W. Carpenter was living with Joseph Tanner's uncle Thomas J. MORRIS.
Zachariah & Lewis Carpenter may have been the Z. and L. Carpenter living with their Uncle Zac Carpenter in Harrison Co. TX. The two boys are tacked on the bottom of census which usually indicates a different parent or relationship.
1860 Census: TX, HARRISON, Z. Carpenter b.1808 GA, S.A. 1820 NC, W.A. 1855 GA, C.T. 1858 TX, H.A. 3mos TX, **L.1850 GA, **Z. 1848 GA "MAYBE this is Lewis & Zach the orphans of Thomas M. Carpenter?""
1860 Census: GA, CARROLL: John W. Carpenter (orphan) living with his brother in law, Jos. Tanner's uncle Thos J MORRIS 1828, Susan R. 1838, Henry 1855, Ida 1857, Talula 1 mo, John Carpenter b.1840.
1860 Census: Robert A Carpenter (orphan) in GA, CARROLL, with sister Mary L. [Carpenter] & Joseph TANNER.
1860 Census: James Warren Carpenter's brother Reuben L. Carpenter was living in AL, Talladega, R.L. Carpenter 31 GA (1829], E. 26 GA, MJ 9, JL 6 AL (male), J 4 AL (female), JL 3 AL (female), SA 1mos AL (female). Lived next door to his father in law ELIJAH GARRETT b. 1810 SC.
1862 Record: REUBEN L. CARPENTER died in the Civil War as noted by his son in a later news publication (see 1923). Reuben is probably the Reuben Carpenter buried in TN, Shelbyville CSA 25th AL INF Co. G who died Apr 17, 1862.
1870 Census: AL, Lineville, E. [Emily] Carpenter, widow 1834 GA, MJ 1852 AL, *John L 1854, Geonetta 1856, Julia Ann 1858, Ann S 1860, Sarah A 1863, Franklin McCAIN 1847 [probably a nephew as 2 of Emily's siblings married McCAINS. Neighbor: Sallie Carpenter.
*This is the John L. Carpenter who published a wedding anniversary announcement in 1923 and was the son of REUBEN CARPENTER who died in CSA and EMILY (Garrett) CARPENTER.
1870 Census: AL, Lineville, S Carpenter 1820 GA, Mathenia C 1844 GA, David H 1851 AL, James W 1856 AL, Judy MORGAN 1797 GA. This is Sallie Carpenter with her younger children and her mother.
1870 Census: Sallie Carpenter's daughter S.A. Johnson is living next to Sallie's brother, John R. HARLAN in GA, Coweta, Thomas L age 40 GA, Sarah A 30 GA, James L, Wm T., Nancy A, Emily F, Baby: NEIGHBOR: John R. HARLEN the uncle of Sarah A. (Carpenter) Johnson.
1880 Census: AL, Clay , Sallie Carpenter and her mother Judah (Wilkins) Harlen-Morgan are living with son James W. Carpenter Jr. under surname CARPNER. JW Carpner 24 GA, ME 20 GA, MA 1 AL, Sarah 60 GA, Juda Morgin 84 GA:NC:VA.
1880 Census: Sallie's brother John R. Harlen was dead and his widow SARAH (BRADBERRY) HARLEN had moved back to Henry County GA. Sarah (wdo) 1830 GA, Mary 1851, Malinda 1862, Josyphine 1864, William 1868. Neighbors: Elizabeth C [Morgan] CALLAWAY (Sallie & John R. Harlen's half sister).
1884 Record: Josephine (Moffettt) Robinson wrote a journal of her family history, including the Abigail Jordan Moffettt history. Josephine was the granddaughter of Abigail Jordan Carpenter & Thomas Moffettt. Ref: Steve Martonak research.
1906 Record: Sallie (Harlen) Carpenter saved letters from granddaughters Doris Z HAMNER, and Missouri L JOHNSON (wife of James H.)
1911 Record: Sallie (Harlen) Carpenter wrote her autobiography "The Peace" published in the Primitive Baptist.
1912 Record: Sallie (Harlen) Carpenter saved a letter from Simon LIPHAM in which he refers to her as his AUNT. Lucinda is the daughter of and Simon is the grandson of THOMAS M. CARPENTER **proving James Warren Carpenter & Thomas M. Carpenter were brothers**
1912 Record: Sarah saved letters from her daughter Sarah "Abbie" JOHNSON of Bear Creek ALA. She was the wife of THOMAS LEVI JOHNSON. Letter in possession of Merle Johnson's daughter Jackie.
1914 Record: ALA Death Index lists death date of Sarah (Harlen) Carpenter date as Jun 14 1914 instead of Jan 14, 1914. She was buried along side her husband in Old Macedonia Primitive Baptist Cemetery. Her tombstone reads, "Having served her generation by the will of God, she fell asleep." Thanks to Robert Sprayberry for transcription.
1923 Record: The Lineville Headlight printed this announcement: John L. Carpenter married Mary J. Hamlin on 11 Nov 1873 in Clay Co, AL recently celebrated their 50th wedding Anniversary. He was the son of REUBEN CARPENTER, an early settler of Alabama who was killed on the battlefield while
serving with the CSA.
1928 Record: The family of Mary Jamima Hamlin and John Lewis Carpenter are all identified in The Ashland Progress while reporting on Mary & John's 55th wedding anniversary.
1998 Record: The Thomas "M." Carpenter b.1810 lineage is confirmed by the Thomas Newton LIPHAM Family Bible record. The family Bible of Lucinda (Carpenter) LIPHAM transcribed by a HALPIN descendant, lists Thomas M. Carpenter's wife as Lucinda BARROW and also supplies names, birth and death records of the family. Some of the Liphams lived in Randolph Co AL and were still living in the area of the 1880 census and 1912 when Simon Lipham wrote Sallie Carpenter.
BASED ON PREPONDERANCE OF EVIDENCE, I BELIEVE THE FOLLOWING TO BE TRUE:
* THOMAS CARPENTER of Henry Co GA c.1785 was probably the son of Abigail Jordan & Mr. Carpenter.
* Thomas had brothers named Reuben & John Carpenter as well as Moffettt 1/2 brothers.
* Brother Reuben died in Edgefield County SC and some of his sons went to MS and on to TX.
****My father's DNA matches a descendant of the Reuben Carpenter who went to TX***
* Thomas had a total of "6" sons born between 1804 - 1830. I believe 4 of them were:
ZACHARIAH Carpenter c.1805
JAMES WARREN Carpenter b. Jan 21, 1813
THOMAS M. Carpenter b. Apr 23, 1810
REUBEN L. Carpenter b. Dec 14, 1828
He had 2 other sons. One was born 1804-1816. The other was born 1820-1825. He may have had sons between the 1830 census and 1838. He should have a son named John after his other brother. I have considered whether "any or none" of the below could have been sons:
John B. Carpenter c.1820 GA lived in Randolph Co AL in 1860.
Eli (Eleazer) Carpenter c.1823 GA deeded land Randolph Co AL 1851.
William Henry Carpenter c.1825 ? died CSA 1861-65 buried TN.
William Carpenter c.1830 GA living in Randolph AL 1850.
* Thomas had "4" daughters born 1810-1830. I believe one of them to be:
ELIZABETH Carpenter c.1820
Anyone having evidence showing this is wrong, PLEASE email me at dcuzze@earthlink.net.
From: Donna Cuzze
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 1:11 PM
To: DKCUZ
Subject: CORRECTION to Unknown sons of Carpenter
Hello Group 16,
Here is what we need to look for in the way of other descendants of John, Reuben & Thomas. Assuming that each of them named a son after the other, plus popular names down the chain, a process of elimination left me with some logical guesses as to their names.
All of them had a Thomas so we are NOT looking any Thomas's.
Son b. 1800-1810 SC possible names: John, Starling, Robert, Zachariah, Warren (or James W.)
Son b. 1800-1810 SC possible names: John, Starling, Robert, Zachariah, Warren (or James W.)
Son b. 1795-1805 GA possible names: John, Starling, Reuben*, Robert, Zachariah, Warren (or James W.)
Son b. 1815-1820 GA possible names: John, Starling, Robert
HERE IS HOW I ARRIVED AT THIS CONCLUSION:
... ...
THOMAS - 1 Unknown Son
Based on the 1820 Warren census, Thomas had 4 boys & 2 girls.
1820 GA, WARREN, Thos 1775-1794, Spouse 1775-1794, Boy 1804-1816, ZACH Boy 1804-1816, THOS M Girl 1804-1816, ELIZ Boy 1810-1820, JAS WARREN Boy 1810-1820, ???? Girl 1810-1820 ABIGAIL [4-boys, 2-girls].
Based on the 1830 Henry Co census, Thomas had 5 boys & 4 girls with the same unknown boy born 1815-1820.
So we are looking for 1 son born in GEORGIA.
Son b. 1815-1820 GA possible names: John, Starling
Donna Cuzze Las Vegas, NV www.cuzze.net
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Charles K. Carpenter
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Fannie McKee Carpenter