39. Josiah or Josias Carpenter
WARNING:
Per James Usher: Josias (b. 12 Sept.1661) and Phoebe returned to England
and died there.
However, a Josiah who bought land in Oyster Bay on Jan. 9, 1685 and sold his
father's Ephraim's land in 1703 had to be at least 21 years of age to
buy land, indicating he had to be born Jan 1664 or earlier.
Records of Genealogist Katherine Stone Moore of Stanwood, WA stated that
William of Providence was the father of Emphraim b. 1652 who was the father of
Josiah b. 1681, who is said to be the father of Samuel Carpenter b. 1716 of
West New Jersey.
There is sufficent evidence to confuse things. Then add that most of the
records of this part of Long Island burned in the early 19th century.
CAUTION:
This is likely one of James Usher's misdirections. He was a lawyer for the Carpenter Family Association who thought there was a fortune of money to be had for the rightful Carpenter heirs. Loyalists, and those Rebels of the Civil War had many genealogies re-done causing much confusion today. Y-DNA testing and better research has made inroads in the damage done by the CFA officers. Amos Bugbee Carpenter tried to correct many of these lines in his 1898 book. ABC also provides evidence that no fortune was ever there waiting for the rightful Carpenter heirs.
142. Samuel See Notes Carpenter
This is part of an Usher line. See listed father's notes.
This is likely to be a duplicate of Samuel Carpenter-12665, son of Josias C-12658. It is a similar line but much more correct than this Usher mess. JRC
143. Josiah or Josias Carpenter
Confused with father? A Quaker. No mention of him being married.
Number 1849 in the 1912 Book.
WILL: Will dated March 6, 1749, see Arnold Vital Records, P. 263 - 5-534.
DEATH: Other records have him dying 2 Aug. 1747, but they do not mention his will.
Number 1854 in the Carpenter Family in America, 1912 Book.
Number 1852 in the Carpenter Family in America, 1912 Book.
He was the grandson of Roger Williams of Providence.
SEE:
https://ia600208.us.archive.org/15/items/newenglandfamili031847/newenglandfamili031847.pdf
See Page 1117.
DEATH:DIED 24 Mar 1711 per Arnold Memorial.
Died after 1724 per other records.
Number 1853 in the Carpenter Family in america, 1912 Book.
Was this Benjamin Carpenter? Data seems off however! Donna Hellewell.
I concur. Spouse is not Benjamin Carpenter b. 1696,,RI. That Benjamin's first child was married in 1742, or born about 1720/1724 range. Too young to have a mother born about 1713. JRC 3/2001
He was co-owner of a sailing sloop in the Caribbean trade.
SEE: THE EPISTLE and Providence, RI, City deaths page 31 in the index.
WILL: Will dated 13 June 1751. SEE: "The Epistle", Vol. 6, Number 3 (March
1980) and records of Louise Carpenter Licklider.
He was a minister of the Friends and moved to North Carolina in 1745.SEE: page 323-324 in the Carpenter Family in America book by Daniel H.
Carpenter, 1901 for family listing. #1857.UPDATE: November 2015
Name: Silas Carpenter
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Birth: abt 1681 Pawtuxet, Providence, Rhode Island
Death: 13 Jun 1751 Pawtuxet, Providence, Rhode Island
Religion: Minister in the Friends Society
Father: Silas Carpenter (1650-1695)
Mother: Sarah Arnold (1665-1742)Spouses
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1: Sarah (Hannah) Arnold
Birth: abt 1688 Warwick, Kent, Rhode Island
Death: 27 Nov 1726 Warwick, Kent, Rhode Island
Father: Israel Arnold (1649-1716)
Mother: Mary Barker (-1723)
Marriage: 21 Dec 1708 Pawtuxet, Rhode Island
Children: Silas (1709-1801)
William (1711-)
Sarah (1712-1716)
Mary (1714-)
Ephraim (1716-1793)
Israel (1717-1721)
Phebe (1719-1787)
Joseph (1721-)
Israel (1722-1811)
Stephen (1724-1732)
Jacob (1725-)--------------------------------------------------
2: Frances Haynes
Birth: of Charles, of Warwiick
Marriage: 15 Nov 1739
Notes for Silas Carpenter
Note: Many genealogies are in error in stating that this Silas (1681-1751), father of Silas (1709-1801), had as a wife Christina Low. Rather, it was Silas the 3rd, his oldest son, who married Christina. Also, Daniel Hoogland Carpenter assigned Anthony Low Carpenter to the older Silas as his son, but Anthony was the son of younger Silas and Christina. Source of the error: History and Genealogy of the Carpenter Family in America: From the Settlement at Providence, R.I., 1637-1901 by Daniel Hoogland Carpenter, Marion Press, 1901, pp. 323-3241695, Dec. 22, His father’s will-proved 1701, Apr. 8. to eldest son Silas, mansion house, land and meadows at Pawtuxet, east side of Pauchesset river.
1708: Marriage: Silas of Providence, Sarah of Warwick, daughter of Israel, deceased. Married by Simeon Smith, Justice. Silas and Sarah were first cousins.
Title: James N. Arnold, Vital Record of Rhode Island, 1636-1850 (Originally published by Narragansett Historical Publishing Company; Providence, RI; 18911712: Admitted freeman of the colony (Rcds of Col. of Rhode Island and Prov. Plantations in New England, by John Russell Bartlett, V. 4, p. 141)
His home was at Pawtuxet, their farm being the original homestead property of William Carpenter (grandfather of Silas).1718: In 1718 The Friends’ (Quakers) Providence Monthly Meeting was established as a Meeting in its own right, and soon a meeting house was erected on what is now Meeting Street in Providence. (This was on the original home lot of William Carpenter). The meeting house burned in 1758, and a new meeting house was built on North Main Street. In 1953 the Meeting moved to its current location adjacent to Moses Brown School.
http://www.artsnowri.com/venue/detail/411 Providence_Friends_Meeting_House1739: Marriage to Frances Haynes: Silas Carpenter, of Providence, and Frances Haynes, of Charles, of Warwick, Nov 15, 1739, VRRI by Arnold, V. 7, Friends and Ministers, Narrangansett Friends Records-Marriages, p. 132,
Aug 3, 1743: Our friend Silas Capenter from Greenwich in New England, being on a visit in the ministry to friends of these parts, produced a certificate from the Monthly Meeting of friends at Greenwich in the colony of Rhode Island which gave good satisfaction U.S. Quaker Meeting Records, 1681-1935
3 Nov 1743: Chesterfield Monthly Meeting: A certificate from the Monthly Meeting at Greenwich recommending Silas Carpenter a Friend in the Ministry which is well accepted by this meeting. U.S. Quaker Meeting Records, 1681-1935
May, 1745: Silas of Providence, yeoman, deeds to John Dexter 232 Acres north side of Pawtuxet River. 5/5/1745
Sept, 1745: Silas present before the Council (Providence) and resigns as guardian of nephew, William, son of William, deceased, as he is about to leave the country. 9/18/1745 (He deeds again in 1747).
Greene's History of E. Greenwich, R.I. states that among the able ministers of the Friends Society was Silas Carpenter. They occasionally traveled to other parts of the county to preach.
When Silas Carpenter was about to move to North Carolina in 1745, the Meeting appointed two Friends to inquire into his circumstances and conversation and how he had left provision for his ancient mother. After three months the report was favorable. He was "clear from any entanglement in marriage."Oct. 1745: Sarah of Providence, relict and widow of Silas (the 1st) of Providence remits unto John Dexter "in return for maintenance by my son Silas of Providence right in farm conveyed to John Dexter by son Silas rather than the first. (This was mother of Silas, the 2nd). 10/5/1745:
I had wondered what happened to Silas Carpenter when he left Providence to go to North Carolina, or if he ever returned to RI. I found this which answered my question:
Extracted from minute book, Core Sound MM, Hege Library, Guilford College, Greensboro NC July 14, 2005
1750, 1st mo 6th Monthly meeting met before which Benjamin Small and Meriam Albertson, Henry Stanton, Junior, and Hope Borden laid their intentions of taking each other in marriage. Also a certificate from Cape Fear was read which manifested Friends unity and satisfaction with the visit of our esteemed Friend Silas Carpenter. He also requests one from us in order to remove to New England in order to a regular preceedings. the meeting appoints Nicholas Bryand and wife, William Hill and his wife to inquire into the conversations and clearness of all other incumberances of marriage of the two couples above named and also into the conversation of our Friend Carpinter and clearness in respect of marriage. No further business the meeting adjourns to meet in course. On the same date, Silas Carpenter: Witness to marriage of Benjamin Small and Miriam Alberton Source: Descendants of The Quaker John Small James D. Small Copyright © 1995 http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~smalljd/lines/quakerjohn-va.html1751: Death: "Carpenter, Silas, of Providence, yeoman. Will dated 3 Sep 1743, proved 27 June 1751, he died 13 June 1751, pg 282. Mentions: Sons Silas Carpenter, William Carpenter, Ephraim Carpenter, Joseph Carpenter, Israel Carpenter, & Jacob Carpenter--last 3 under 21. Daughter Mary Westcot. Witn: John Potter, Caleb Potter, William Briggs."
Title: Alden G. Beaman, Editor, Rhode Island Genealogical Register, Second Edition (Rhode Island Families Assn.; Princeton, MA; 1986-1999 Reproduced on Family Archive CD # 215, Vital Records: Rhode Island, 1500s-1900s; Genealogy.com, 2000)
Source: Rehoboth Roots by Jim Bullock, Rootsweb WorldConnect, updated: 2006-04-19
j.b.bullock@comcast.netOther sources:
1. Title: Gen. Dict. RI (1887) 14
2. Title: Gen. Dict. RI (1887) IV.VI.1.,p.243
3. Title: Providence marriages, v.1, p.86; in Vital Rec. RI, v.2 (1892), p.7Note on history of Friends in Providence:
The history of The Religious Society of Friends in Rhode Island began during the summer of 1657, when the ship Woodhouse arrived in Newport, to the considerable alarm of the local authorities. While the Quakers (originally an insulting term for Friends) were not welcomed in Rhode Island, they did not face the arrests, imprisonment, whippings, and hangings that occurred in neighboring Massachusetts. Over the next few years Friends slowly established themselves and by 1672 there were sufficient Friends in the area to warrant a visit by George Fox, a founder of Quakerism, and the establishment of New England Yearly Meeting.
By 1699 Friends Meetings were established in Newport, Narragansett, and East Greenwich, and subsidiary Meetings began to spread up the Bay.
In 1718 Providence Monthly Meeting was established as a Meeting in its own right, and soon a meeting house was erected on what is now Meeting Street* in Providence. The meeting house burned in 1758, and a new meeting house was built on North Main Street. In 1953 the Meeting moved to its current location adjacent to Moses Brown School.
http://www.artsnowri.com/venue/detail/411 Providence_Friends_Meeting_House*The first meeting house was erected on the town,lot first owned by our William Carpenter, Silas’s grandfather.
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Last Modified: 9 Nov 2015
Created: 10 Nov 2015
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Barbara C. Martin
5836 Dairy Rd.
Baker, Florida 32531GRAVE: not really - memorial only
Silas Carpenter, II
Birth: 1681 USA
Death: 13 Jun 1751 (aged 69–70) USA
Burial: Unknown
Memorial #: 73450092
Family Members
Parents
Silas Carpenter 1650-1695
Sarah Arnold Carpenter 1665-1710
Spouse
Sarah Arnold Carpenter 1689-1727
Children
Joseph Carpenter 1721-1812
Created by: Henry1952 (46507820)
Added: 16 Jul 2011
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/73450092/silas-carpenter
Citation: Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 20 February 2019), memorial page for Silas Carpenter, II (1681–13 Jun 1751), Find A Grave Memorial no. 73450092, ; Maintained by Henry1952 (contributor 46507820) Unknown.
WILL: Will dated 13 June 1751. SEE: "The Epistle", Vol. 6, Number 3 (March
1980) and records of Louise Carpenter Licklider.
He was a minister of the Friends and moved to North Carolina in 1745.SEE: page 323-324 in the Carpenter Family in America book by Daniel H.
Carpenter, 1901 for family listing. #1857.UPDATE: November 2015
Name: Silas Carpenter
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Birth: abt 1681 Pawtuxet, Providence, Rhode Island
Death: 13 Jun 1751 Pawtuxet, Providence, Rhode Island
Religion: Minister in the Friends Society
Father: Silas Carpenter (1650-1695)
Mother: Sarah Arnold (1665-1742)Spouses
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1: Sarah (Hannah) Arnold
Birth: abt 1688 Warwick, Kent, Rhode Island
Death: 27 Nov 1726 Warwick, Kent, Rhode Island
Father: Israel Arnold (1649-1716)
Mother: Mary Barker (-1723)
Marriage: 21 Dec 1708 Pawtuxet, Rhode Island
Children: Silas (1709-1801)
William (1711-)
Sarah (1712-1716)
Mary (1714-)
Ephraim (1716-1793)
Israel (1717-1721)
Phebe (1719-1787)
Joseph (1721-)
Israel (1722-1811)
Stephen (1724-1732)
Jacob (1725-)--------------------------------------------------
2: Frances Haynes
Birth: of Charles, of Warwiick
Marriage: 15 Nov 1739
Notes for Silas Carpenter
Note: Many genealogies are in error in stating that this Silas (1681-1751), father of Silas (1709-1801), had as a wife Christina Low. Rather, it was Silas the 3rd, his oldest son, who married Christina. Also, Daniel Hoogland Carpenter assigned Anthony Low Carpenter to the older Silas as his son, but Anthony was the son of younger Silas and Christina. Source of the error: History and Genealogy of the Carpenter Family in America: From the Settlement at Providence, R.I., 1637-1901 by Daniel Hoogland Carpenter, Marion Press, 1901, pp. 323-3241695, Dec. 22, His father’s will-proved 1701, Apr. 8. to eldest son Silas, mansion house, land and meadows at Pawtuxet, east side of Pauchesset river.
1708: Marriage: Silas of Providence, Sarah of Warwick, daughter of Israel, deceased. Married by Simeon Smith, Justice. Silas and Sarah were first cousins.
Title: James N. Arnold, Vital Record of Rhode Island, 1636-1850 (Originally published by Narragansett Historical Publishing Company; Providence, RI; 18911712: Admitted freeman of the colony (Rcds of Col. of Rhode Island and Prov. Plantations in New England, by John Russell Bartlett, V. 4, p. 141)
His home was at Pawtuxet, their farm being the original homestead property of William Carpenter (grandfather of Silas).1718: In 1718 The Friends’ (Quakers) Providence Monthly Meeting was established as a Meeting in its own right, and soon a meeting house was erected on what is now Meeting Street in Providence. (This was on the original home lot of William Carpenter). The meeting house burned in 1758, and a new meeting house was built on North Main Street. In 1953 the Meeting moved to its current location adjacent to Moses Brown School.
http://www.artsnowri.com/venue/detail/411 Providence_Friends_Meeting_House1739: Marriage to Frances Haynes: Silas Carpenter, of Providence, and Frances Haynes, of Charles, of Warwick, Nov 15, 1739, VRRI by Arnold, V. 7, Friends and Ministers, Narrangansett Friends Records-Marriages, p. 132,
Aug 3, 1743: Our friend Silas Capenter from Greenwich in New England, being on a visit in the ministry to friends of these parts, produced a certificate from the Monthly Meeting of friends at Greenwich in the colony of Rhode Island which gave good satisfaction U.S. Quaker Meeting Records, 1681-1935
3 Nov 1743: Chesterfield Monthly Meeting: A certificate from the Monthly Meeting at Greenwich recommending Silas Carpenter a Friend in the Ministry which is well accepted by this meeting. U.S. Quaker Meeting Records, 1681-1935
May, 1745: Silas of Providence, yeoman, deeds to John Dexter 232 Acres north side of Pawtuxet River. 5/5/1745
Sept, 1745: Silas present before the Council (Providence) and resigns as guardian of nephew, William, son of William, deceased, as he is about to leave the country. 9/18/1745 (He deeds again in 1747).
Greene's History of E. Greenwich, R.I. states that among the able ministers of the Friends Society was Silas Carpenter. They occasionally traveled to other parts of the county to preach.
When Silas Carpenter was about to move to North Carolina in 1745, the Meeting appointed two Friends to inquire into his circumstances and conversation and how he had left provision for his ancient mother. After three months the report was favorable. He was "clear from any entanglement in marriage."Oct. 1745: Sarah of Providence, relict and widow of Silas (the 1st) of Providence remits unto John Dexter "in return for maintenance by my son Silas of Providence right in farm conveyed to John Dexter by son Silas rather than the first. (This was mother of Silas, the 2nd). 10/5/1745:
I had wondered what happened to Silas Carpenter when he left Providence to go to North Carolina, or if he ever returned to RI. I found this which answered my question:
Extracted from minute book, Core Sound MM, Hege Library, Guilford College, Greensboro NC July 14, 2005
1750, 1st mo 6th Monthly meeting met before which Benjamin Small and Meriam Albertson, Henry Stanton, Junior, and Hope Borden laid their intentions of taking each other in marriage. Also a certificate from Cape Fear was read which manifested Friends unity and satisfaction with the visit of our esteemed Friend Silas Carpenter. He also requests one from us in order to remove to New England in order to a regular preceedings. the meeting appoints Nicholas Bryand and wife, William Hill and his wife to inquire into the conversations and clearness of all other incumberances of marriage of the two couples above named and also into the conversation of our Friend Carpinter and clearness in respect of marriage. No further business the meeting adjourns to meet in course. On the same date, Silas Carpenter: Witness to marriage of Benjamin Small and Miriam Alberton Source: Descendants of The Quaker John Small James D. Small Copyright © 1995 http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~smalljd/lines/quakerjohn-va.html1751: Death: "Carpenter, Silas, of Providence, yeoman. Will dated 3 Sep 1743, proved 27 June 1751, he died 13 June 1751, pg 282. Mentions: Sons Silas Carpenter, William Carpenter, Ephraim Carpenter, Joseph Carpenter, Israel Carpenter, & Jacob Carpenter--last 3 under 21. Daughter Mary Westcot. Witn: John Potter, Caleb Potter, William Briggs."
Title: Alden G. Beaman, Editor, Rhode Island Genealogical Register, Second Edition (Rhode Island Families Assn.; Princeton, MA; 1986-1999 Reproduced on Family Archive CD # 215, Vital Records: Rhode Island, 1500s-1900s; Genealogy.com, 2000)
Source: Rehoboth Roots by Jim Bullock, Rootsweb WorldConnect, updated: 2006-04-19
j.b.bullock@comcast.netOther sources:
1. Title: Gen. Dict. RI (1887) 14
2. Title: Gen. Dict. RI (1887) IV.VI.1.,p.243
3. Title: Providence marriages, v.1, p.86; in Vital Rec. RI, v.2 (1892), p.7Note on history of Friends in Providence:
The history of The Religious Society of Friends in Rhode Island began during the summer of 1657, when the ship Woodhouse arrived in Newport, to the considerable alarm of the local authorities. While the Quakers (originally an insulting term for Friends) were not welcomed in Rhode Island, they did not face the arrests, imprisonment, whippings, and hangings that occurred in neighboring Massachusetts. Over the next few years Friends slowly established themselves and by 1672 there were sufficient Friends in the area to warrant a visit by George Fox, a founder of Quakerism, and the establishment of New England Yearly Meeting.
By 1699 Friends Meetings were established in Newport, Narragansett, and East Greenwich, and subsidiary Meetings began to spread up the Bay.
In 1718 Providence Monthly Meeting was established as a Meeting in its own right, and soon a meeting house was erected on what is now Meeting Street* in Providence. The meeting house burned in 1758, and a new meeting house was built on North Main Street. In 1953 the Meeting moved to its current location adjacent to Moses Brown School.
http://www.artsnowri.com/venue/detail/411 Providence_Friends_Meeting_House*The first meeting house was erected on the town,lot first owned by our William Carpenter, Silas’s grandfather.
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Last Modified: 9 Nov 2015
Created: 10 Nov 2015
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Barbara C. Martin
5836 Dairy Rd.
Baker, Florida 32531GRAVE: not really - memorial only
Sarah Arnold Carpenter
Birth: 1689 Rhode Island, USA
Death: 26 Nov 1727 (aged 37–38) USA
Burial: Unknown
Memorial #: 73450295
Family Members
Spouse
Silas Carpenter 1681-1751
Children
Joseph Carpenter 1721-1812
Created by: Henry1952 (46507820)
Added: 16 Jul 2011
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/73450295/sarah-carpenter
Citation: Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 20 February 2019), memorial page for Sarah Arnold Carpenter (1689–26 Nov 1727), Find A Grave Memorial no. 73450295, ; Maintained by Henry1952 (contributor 46507820) Unknown.
SEE: Death records of Providence City, RI.