Group 2 - Descendants of Richard Carpenter RIN 669-
The Providence (Pawtuxet section, now in Cranston), Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, now part of Providence County, RI Carpenter line
Notes
7841.
Samuel Carpenter
Same person in the following Census?
CENSUS: 1880 US Census
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
Samuel D. CARPENTER Self S Male W 52 NJ Farmer NJ PA
Matilda HAWK Other S Female W 33 NJ House Keeping NJ NJ
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Source Information:
Census Place Greenwich, Warren, New Jersey
Family History Library Film 1254799
NA Film Number T9-0799
Page Number 349A
10705.
Elmira Carpenter
She died during her first year of life.
10706.
Jasper Lundy Carpenter
He went west in October 1876. After marrying in KS he resided in Denver, CO.
10707.
Annie Carpenter
She died soon after her first birthday.
7843.
Phoebe Ann Carpenter
NAME: Phebe A. in 1880 US Census but Phoebe A. Carpenter in PRF.
BOOK: Genealogical Record of the Descendants of John and Elizabeth Campbell - 1883 Philadelphia, PA edited by a Descendant. Preface by E. Boylston Jackson.
Page 2 - No known relation to her Husband.
https://archive.org/details/GenealogicalRecordOfTheDescendantsOfJohnAndElizabethCampbell-1883/mode/2up
GRAVE: images <---- Replacement markers - CAUTION!
Phoebe A Carpenter
Birth: 1832 <--- approximate date
Death: 1899 (aged 66–67) <---- where did this come from?
Burial: Woodward Township Cemetery, Linden, Lycoming County, Pennsylvania, USA
Memorial #: 42207424
Family Members
Children
Joseph R Carpenter 1849-1919
John Wesley Carpenter 1854-1932
Created by: Rodger (47146601)
Added: 21 Sep 2009
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/42207424/phoebe-a-carpenter
Citation: Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 19 October 2018), memorial page for Phoebe A Carpenter (1832–1899), Find A Grave Memorial no. 42207424, citing Woodward Township Cemetery, Linden, Lycoming County, Pennsylvania, USA ; Maintained by Rodger (contributor 47146601) . NOTE:
Her marker is a smal freestanding stone with Phoebe A. 1832-1899 on it. It may be a memorial marker IF Emory Cemetery and Woodward Township Cemetery, both in Woodward Township, Lycoming, Pennsylvania are NOT the same cemetery!
CAUTION! - These are replacement markers and have no verification or documentation.
Jesse Bowman Carpenter
Jesse B. Carpenter is a native of Lycoming, Pa. and is a notable example of the proverbial "Pennsylvannia Farmer" residing on his farm overlooking the Susquehanna River at Linden, Pa..
NAME: Jesse or Jessie
LAND: 1839 - image
Name: Jesse B Carpenter [B. Jesse Carpenter]
Warrant Date: 3 Jun 1839
Warrant Place: Lycoming, Lycoming
[Acreage: 60 ]
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, Land Warrants and Applications, 1733-1952 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012.
Original data: Warrant Applications, 1733-1952. Harrisburg, PA: Pennsylvania State Archives.
Land Warrants. Pennsylvania State Archives, Harrisburg, PA.
CENSUS: 1850 US Census
Name: J B Carpenter [Jesse Bowman Carpenter]
Age: 46
Birth Year: abt 1814
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Pennsylvania
Home in 1860: Anthony, Lycoming, Pennsylvania
Post Office: Salladasburg
Dwelling Number: 1511
Family Number: 1511
Occupation: Farmer
Real Estate Value: 4000
Personal Estate Value: 1400
Household Members:
Name Age
J B Carpenter 46
Phebe A Carpenter 28
Joseph Carpenter 11
John W Carpenter 6
Asher M Carpenter 3
John Carpenter 73 <------- father
M A Newcom 19
Abram Newcom 24
Source Citation
Year: 1860; Census Place: Anthony, Lycoming, Pennsylvania; Roll: M653_1136; Page: 12; Family History Library Film: 805136
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1860 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2009. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: 1860 U.S. census, population schedule. NARA microfilm publication M653, 1,438 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.
SEE ALSO:
Name: Jesse Carpenter
Age: 35
Birth Year: abt 1815
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1850: Anthony, Lycoming, Pennsylvania, USA
Gender: Male
Family Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Jesse Carpenter 35
Phebe Carpenter 18
Joseph Carpenter 1
A Newcomer 14
Source Citation
Year: 1850; Census Place: Anthony, Lycoming, Pennsylvania; Roll: M432_795; Page: 184A; Image: 8
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1850 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2009. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: Seventh Census of the United States, 1850; (National Archives Microfilm Publication M432, 1009 rolls); Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29; National Archives, Washington, D.C.
CENSUS: 1860 US Census
Name: J B Carpenter [Jesse Bowman Carpenter]
Age: 46
Birth Year: abt 1814
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Pennsylvania
Home in 1860: Anthony, Lycoming, Pennsylvania
Post Office: Salladasburg
Family Number: 1511
Value of Real Estate:
Household Members: Name Age
J B Carpenter 46
Phebe A Carpenter 28
Joseph Carpenter 11
John W Carpenter 6
Asher M Carpenter 3
John Carpenter 73
M A Newcom 19
Abram Newcom 24
Source Citation
Year: 1860; Census Place: Anthony, Lycoming, Pennsylvania; Roll: M653_1136; Page: 12; Image: 17; Family History Library Film: 805136
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1860 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2009. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: 1860 U.S. census, population schedule. NARA microfilm publication M653, 1,438 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.
CENSUS: 1870 US Census
Name: James B Carpenter [Jesse B Carpenter] <--- clearly James B. on image
Age in 1870: 57
Birth Year: abt 1813
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1870: Piatt, Lycoming, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Male
Post Office: Jersey Mills
Value of Real Estate:
Household Members: Name Age
James B Carpenter 57
Phebe A Carpenter 37
Joseph R Carpenter 21
John W Carpenter 15
Asher M Carpenter 12
Source Citation
Year: 1870; Census Place: Piatt, Lycoming, Pennsylvania; Roll: M593_1370; Page: 307B; Image: 621; Family History Library Film: 552869
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1870 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2009. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data:
1870 U.S. census, population schedules. NARA microfilm publication M593, 1,761 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.
Minnesota census schedules for 1870. NARA microfilm publication T132, 13 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.
CENSUS: 1880 US Census
Name: J. B. Carpenter
Age: 66
Birth Date: Abt 1814
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1880: Piatt, Lycoming, Pennsylvania, USA
Dwelling Number: 67
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Phebe A. Carpenter
Father's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Mother's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Occupation: Farmer
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
J. B. Carpenter 66
Phebe A. Carpenter 47
John W. Carpenter 25
Asher M. Carpenter 22
Source Citation
Year: 1880; Census Place: Piatt, Lycoming, Pennsylvania; Roll: 1152; Page: 356D; Enumeration District: 063
Source Information
Ancestry.com and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. 1880 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010. 1880 U.S. Census Index provided by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints © Copyright 1999 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. All use is subject to the limited use license and other terms and conditions applicable to this site.
Original data: Tenth Census of the United States, 1880. (NARA microfilm publication T9, 1,454 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
SEE ALSO:
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
J. B. CARPENTER Self M Male W 66 PA Farmer PA PA
Phebe A. CARPENTER Wife M Female W 47 PA Keeping House PA PA
John W. CARPENTER Son S Male W 25 PA Farmer PA PA
Asher M. CARPENTER Son S Male W 22 PA Farmer PA PA
May CASE Other S Female W 15 PA Servant PA PA
Anna LITLEY*** Niece S Female W 15 PA Servant ENG PA
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Source Information:
Census Place Piatt, Lycoming, Pennsylvania
Family History Library Film 1255152
NA Film Number T9-1152
Page Number 356D
CENSUS: 1890 US Census - burned
CENSUS: 1900 US Census
Name: Jessie B Carpenter
Age: 86
Birth Date: Oct 1813
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1900: Piatt, Lycoming, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Mother's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Occupation:
Neighbors:
Household Members: Name Age
Jessie B Carpenter 86
Blanche Hepburn 16
Source Citation
Year: 1900; Census Place: Piatt, Lycoming, Pennsylvania; Roll: 1438; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 0068; FHL microfilm: 1241438
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1900 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004.
Original data: United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Twelfth Census of the United States, 1900. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1900. T623, 1854 rolls.
GRAVE: images
Jesse B Carpenter
Birth: 1813
Death: 1902 (aged 88–89)
Burial: Woodward Township Cemetery, Linden, Lycoming County, Pennsylvania, USA
Memorial #: 42207415
Family Members
Children
Joseph R Carpenter 1849-1919
John Wesley Carpenter 1854-1932
Created by: Rodger (47146601)
Added: 21 Sep 2009
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/42207415
Citation: Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 19 October 2018), memorial page for Jesse B Carpenter (1813–1902), Find A Grave Memorial no. 42207415, citing Woodward Township Cemetery, Linden, Lycoming County, Pennsylvania, USA ; Maintained by Rodger (contributor 47146601) .
COMMENT:
It is assumed that Emory and Woodward Township Cemteries are the same, One just being an older name. The marker for Jessie B. (in WTC) is a small fragment and free standing stone. This means it is NOT anchored to the ground and may be more of a memorial marker.
PRF:
Jessie B. Carpenter Compact Disc #55 Pin #596303
Politics: Democrat and Advocate of Temperance
He has 4 children with Phoebe Carpenter.
Religious Affiliation: Methodist , Trustee and seward of church
Occupation: Farmer
*** Note: Who was Anna Litley's parents? Compare Anna above with the one below.
How is she the niece of J. B.?
CENSUS: 1880 US Census
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
James LITTLEY Self M Male W 53 ENGLAND Brick Mason ENGLAND ENGLAND
Sarah J. LITTLEY Wife M Female W 41 PA Keeping House PA PA
John C. LITTLEY Son S Male W 23 PA Brick Mason ENGLAND PA
Joseph G. LITTLEY Son S Male W 22 PA Brick Mason ENGLAND PA
Anna E. LITTLEY*** Dau S Female W 15 PA At Home ENGLAND PA
Fannie M. LITTLEY Dau S Female W 13 PA At Home ENGLAND PA
Jcair B. LITTLEY Son S Male W 8 PA ENGLAND PA
Samuel J. LITTLEY Son S Male W 5 PA ENGLAND PA
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Source Information:
Census Place Moutoursville, Lycoming, Pennsylvania
Family History Library Film 1255152
NA Film Number T9-1152
Page Number 270C
CHAPTER LII.
BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCHES.
BOROUGH OF JERSEY SHORE, AND PORTER, WATSON, MIFFLIN (INCLUDING SALLADASBURG), AND PIATT TOWNSHIPS. JESSE B. CARPENTER, second son of John and Mary Carpenter, was born October 10, 1813, in Woodward township, Lycoming county. He was reared upon the old homestead, and received such an education as the common schools of that period afforded. After he grew to manhood he and his brother secured the patent for the tract entered by his grandfather, a portion of which is still owned by members of the family. In 1866 he purchased his present home of 125 acres in Piatt township, where he has since resided. Mr. Carpenter was married May 20, 1847, to Phebe Ann, daughter of Joseph and Hannah Carpenter of Eldred township. Four children are the fruits of this union: Joseph R.; William B., deceased; John W., and Asher M. Mr. Carpenter is one of the leading farmers of his township, and is a trustee and steward of the Methodist Episcopal church of his neighborhood. Throughout his life-long residence in Lycoming county he has been recognized as an industrious and honorable citizen, a man whose character is above reproach, and whose success has been attained by a conscientious performance of duty. He is a kind and charit-able neighbor, and ever ready to help the needy and afflicted. Politically, he has always been a stanch Democrat, and is also a firm advocate of the temperance cause. Both he and wife are now spending their declining years in the mutual love and respect of home and family, and in the enjoyment of the comforts which their industrious and economical habits have won.
10710.
William Bennett Carpenter
History of Lycoming County Pennsylvania edited by John F. Meginness; ©1892
Please note: This book was written more than 115 years ago and was reproduced exectly as published. Printed and on CD-ROM copies of this book are available from the from the Lycoming County Genealogy Society.
CHAPTER XLVIII.
BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCHES. CITY OF WILLIAMSPORT AND BOROUGH OF SOUTH WILLIAMSPORT.Under "D. R. P. RISSEL" - Alice, wife of William Carpenter, of Corning, New York.
IS this the same William?
10719.
Samuel James Littley
NAME: Went by James.
7846.
Charles Carpenter
CENSUS: 1880 US Census
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
Charles CARPENTER Self M Male W 36 PA Farm Hand PA PA
Hannah CARPENTER Wife M Female W 30 PA Keeping House PA PA
Isaiah CARPENTER Son S Male W 12 PA PA PA
Joseph A. CARPENTER Son S Male W 8 PA PA PA
Cora CARPENTER Dau S Female W 7 PA PA PA
Bertha M. CARPENTER Dau S Female W 1 PA PA PA
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Source Information:
Census Place Moutoursville, Lycoming, Pennsylvania
Family History Library Film 1255152
NA Film Number T9-1152
Page Number 259B
7866.
Alice Mary Carpenter
GRAVE: images
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=133455129
Alice Mary Carpenter Hopkins
Birth: Jan. 5, 1897
Fly Creek
Otsego County
New York, USA
Death: Apr. 9, 1985
Massillon
Stark County
Ohio, USA
Family links:
Parents:
Clarence Carpenter (1859 - 1907)
Mary Lucinda Hubbell Carpenter (1855 - 1942)
Spouse:
Arnold Edwin Hopkins (1895 - 1949)
Children:
Harold Solon Hopkins (1925 - 2006)*
Sibling:
Harold Daniel Carpenter (1891 - 1961)*
Alice Mary Carpenter Hopkins (1897 - 1985)
*Calculated relationship
Burial:
Glenwood Cemetery
Oneonta
Otsego County
New York, USA
Maintained by: Anonymous
Originally Created by: suscat
Record added: Jul 28, 2014
Find A Grave Memorial# 133455129
Arnold Edwin Hopkins
GRAVE: images
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=131158887
Arnold Edwin Hopkins
Birth: Jun. 21, 1895
New York, USA
Death: Apr. 9, 1949
Oneonta
Otsego County
New York, USA
Married to Alice Carpenter July 31, 1920. Veteran of World War I.
Family links:
Spouse:
Alice Mary Carpenter Hopkins (1897 - 1985)*
Children:
Harold Solon Hopkins (1925 - 2006)*
*Calculated relationship
Burial:
Glenwood Cemetery
Oneonta
Otsego County
New York, USA
Plot: AGRSDWRM
Created by: Anonymous
Record added: Jun 10, 2014
Find A Grave Memorial# 131158887
10724.
Harold Solon Hopkins
GRAVE:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=71177552
Harold Solon Hopkins
Birth: Jul. 1, 1925
Oneonta
Otsego County
New York, USA
Death: Mar. 8, 2006
Paradise Valley
Maricopa County
Arizona, USA
Family links:
Parents:
Arnold Edwin Hopkins (1895 - 1949)
Alice Mary Carpenter Hopkins (1897 - 1985)
Burial:
Valley Presbyterian Church Memorial Garden
Paradise Valley
Maricopa County
Arizona, USA
Created by: Susan Hopkins Ochs
Record added: Jun 11, 2011
Find A Grave Memorial# 71177552
E-MAIL:
From: Barbara McGillivary mailto:mcgilb@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 11:35 AM
To: John R Carpenter mailto:jrcrin001@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project - 340506 MtFull only
Hi,
My Carpenter family line starts with my Grandmother... Alice Carpenter Hopkins.
My GGfather was Clarence M Carpenter (1859-1907) Otsego County, NY
My GGGfather was Ervin or Irvin Carpenter (1830-1892) Otwego County, NY
My GGGGfather was Daniel G Carpenter (1805-1885) born in Rhode Island and died in Otsego Co, New York.
I am stuck proving anything before that. Most are in a cemetary near Fly Creek, New York.
My father Harold Solon Hopkins was an only child. My GGmother was Mary Hubbell Carpenter (1854-1942) I have proven the Hubbell family back Richard Hubbell of England and most of my DNA points to England.
Any assistance would be appreciated,
Barbara Toan Hopkins McGillivary
mcgilb@yahoo.com
7889.
Stephen van Rensselaer Carpenter Sr.
NOTES: From Barbara Martin:
My father, Stephen VR, had 2 sons, my brothers, neither of which had sons. So - the Amos Carpenter line fades out with my brothers.
BOOK:
Our Carpenter Family, privately published February 2016, by Barbara Carpenter Martin
of Baker, Florida. 235 Pages. Many pictures.
Note: This is similar to an ancestral report starting with RIN 34425. See the Book section of the CCE.
Page 7
The Carpenter Story, Generation I Stephen and Carrie Lee Walther Carpenter
If our great-uncle Ezra Kelly had not moved to the Coldwater community north of Milton, Florida, my brothers, sister and I may never have existed.
Uncle Ezra had grown up at Holt, Florida along with our grandmother, Isabel Kelly Carpenter Canfield, his older sister. (The Kelly family story will be told in another book.) Grandma Isabel married Van Carpenter and moved away from Holt, eventually living at Perry, Florida where my father, Stephen, and his brother, Raymond, were born.
Grandpa Van died soon after the birth of their second son, Raymond. Grandma returned home, and then lived with her sister and her family who had settled in southeast Alabama.
On December 21, 1923, Grandma Isabel married Henry Horace Canfield, a widower with other children. He was a native of Moss Point, Mississippi, but was working in Alabama at the time they met. They moved permanently to the Moss Point area, where his family already had deep roots.
In the years following the move to Mississippi, Daddy and his brother Raymond welcomed two new sisters - our Aunts Eloise and Vivian.
7
Growing up in the Escatawpa, Mississippi community, it was our Daddy’s destiny to attend school there (or at least pass through the doors) from 1923 to 1933. Highly intelligent though he was, diligent student he was not. Reports would come home to Grandma many days that he wasn’t in school. She knew she had sent him off to school each of those mornings, but apparently he spent his days playing the truant. Finally, at the end of the ninth grade, he ended his misery and dropped out of school.
A few years later, he returned to Florida to live off and on with his Kelly uncles and cousins. His cousin, Velma Kelly Stricklin, told he that she remembered him during that time for the crisp white pants he preferred to wear. He finally settled in the small town of Niceville where he lived and worked with his cousin, Carey Kelly, who owned a sawmill there.
Carey had bought the sawmill from the Spence family after they had gone bankrupt with it. The Spences went on to open the most successful fresh seafod market Niceville has ever known. Daddy was a fisherman, and he especially liked the mullet that were abundant in the bayous around Niceville. He wrote of catching 47 mullet one afternoon, and bringing home a bucket of oysters he caught “across the bay” another time. He would recall the good taste of the fish caught there long after he returned to Mississippi, and would hold it up as the standard for judging the quality of fish he caught in Mississippi waters. Mississippi fish never measured up to the Florida fish.
Meanwhile, Uncle Ezra, working on the railroad out of Holt, married one of the local school teachers, Bertha Willis, who was from the Coldwater community. Before 1930, Ezra and Bertha moved to Coldwater and became near neighbors to Will and Nancy Walther, our other grandparents.
Never having had children of their own, Ezra and Bertha seemed to have taken in stray Kelly nieces and nephews. Stephen was one of those strays. He became a frequent visitor to his Uncle Ezra Kelly’s farm. Those trips became even more frequent when he met the oldest child of the Walther neighbors - Carrie Lee Walther. Her family’s story was told in my Walther/Fuqua book.
Daddy and the Walther boys spent lots of time together. Uncle Gordon told me that Daddy even got him into trouble one night. It was watermelon season, and the melons were ripening in the field. One moonlit night, Daddy, Gordon and some of the other Walthers were out late. Passing Ezra Kelly’s melon field, Daddy suggested they snitch one of his uncle’s melons. While enjoying the fruit of their crime under the moonlight, they suddenly heard a voice from out of the quiet darkness, “Is it good, boys?” Uncle Ezra had caught them red-handed.
Friendship turned into love, and Stephen and Carrie Lee decided to marry. Although Niceville was only fifty miles away, courtship and making wedding arrangements proved difficult. There were no phones and Stephen had no vehicle. He borrowed his cousin’s car when possible, or made other arrangements. He would occasionally “go with the lumber truck” to Pensacola and then make a quick trip to the Walther farm north of Milton. I would think that was the truck from his cousin’s mill, delivering the finished lumber to the market.
In a letter he wrote Mamma just three months before they married, Daddy said, “I don’t know when I will get to see you again. I guess it will be about a month for the tires are getting bad on Carey’s old car and you know what that means.” 8
Transportation was not Daddy’s only problem. Grandpa Walther apparently did not approve of him or consider him a suitable match for Mamma. She spoke of that in a letter in December, just before their wedding, when she mentioned that Grandpa was still against their marrying. Daddy had been aware of his feelings. He had written earlier, “I don’t think hard of him at all for I guess he would hate to see you leave even with the best guy in the world.” They had an ally, though, in Grandma Walther. Daddy spoke of her, “ I am glad your mother feels the way she does about it for she can understand. I am glad we have got someone to sympathize with us.”
Daddy took the initiative in buying the furniture for their new home. In October, he wrote, “I wanted to go to see Mr. Floyd Willis about getting some furniture. I think I will be able to get it from him cheaper than I can anywhere else. I want you to tell me about what we will need to start off with for I might not get what you wanted.”
Mamma responded in a letter in early November, “I get kidded sometimes about you. Especially about you buying some furniture last Saturday. I don’t mind it so terribly much though. Maybe no one kids you. I know you can take it better than I for I never did know how to be teased for it gets off with me.”
Six weeks before their Christmas wedding, Mamma wrote, “Did you know that Christmas will not be always coming? Stephen, let’s go into life together with the determination to always love and treat each other as we want to be treated. I know if we fail to be true to each other we can’t be happy. To me, happiness is the most important thing in life.”
On Christmas Day, 1936, the two were married by the elder of the Coldwater RLDS church, Mr. C. J. Clark. Years later, his wife gave me my first piano lessons.
The country was coming out of a depression in 1936, and money was hard to find. In order to get gas money, they sold some of Grandma’s eggs. Before the wedding, she made a list of items that she needed for beginning housekeeping. I think that the cost of those items is worth noting:
broom - $.40
bowl - .35
towels - .50
irons - 1.60
glasses - .25
table cloth - .75
boiler - .40
plates - .60
washtub - 1.00
pan - .25
knives - .25
lamp - .75
dishpan - .50
butcher knife - .25
sifter - .20
frying pan - .50
forks - .25
water bucket - .50
baker - .20
spoons - .25
dipper - .15
kettle - .50
Carrie Lee moved to Niceville with Stephen and they lived in his cousin Carey’s house. I was born the following October at Crestview, about fifteen miles north of Niceville and ten miles from where my grandmother Isabel was born. One of Daddy’s many Kelly cousins and a nurse, Ethel, nursed me through my first night of life. Mamma gave her credit for keeping me alive, because I was having breathing problems throughout the night. Mamma never forgot the long ride she had to endure on a rough unpaved road to reach the hospital before I was born, even after Alzheimer’s robbed her of much of her memory. I’m not so sure she ever forgave me for putting her through all that!
9
By the following June, 1938, Daddy returned with his new family to live near his mother in Escatawpa, Mississippi, where the remainder of their children were born. His first job back in Mississippi was with a lumber company in Moss Point.
Van was born at home in Escatawpa in 1939. (His birth at home was not in the plans, but the bridge across Escatawpa River would not close that night. I’ll bet Mamma really never forgave him for that, either). It was nighttime and dark, so the doctor had Daddy hold the kerosene lamp near him while he delivered the baby. Just as he was his busiest, the lights went out. Daddy had fainted and had dropped the lamp. Aunt Eloise was present for Van’s birth.
The late summer of 1939 found Daddy without a job, and Mamma having gone home for an extended visit with her parents. The delight she felt in motherhood reflected in this letter she wrote to Daddy in September:
“The babies are doing wonderful. Barbara Jean is such a monkey. I told her Daddy said hello’. She shook her head up and down and said ‘hey’ and said ‘way up’. That is what she says when we ask her where you are and point towards the sky. Emma tells her she will never find you there. She is in the yard talking to her kitty. I wish you could hear her mumbling (trying to talk). It all sounds like Hitler’s many speeches. Van is a man now. He is six months old. He has one tooth. He can sit alone and crawl. Mostly when he sees trash he rolls to it no matter how far away. He can really do some rolling too. Hair pulling he loves. I wish he could get yours. My nose is sore as usual and he pulls it. That is how he wakes me about daybreak every morning regular, no matter how sleepy I am. He mocks the cat and makes a noise all the time and is never still. He smiles all the time. Lots of people say he is pretty. Barbara Jean is as brown as she can be but he is white as ever. His hair is still reddish. Barbara Jean has plenty now only it is not long.”
Sandra was born in 1940 at the Jackson County Hospital in Pascagoula, Mississippi. I was not quite three at the time. With a little brother between us, I was not overly impressed by the new baby. I do remember my first visit to see her in the hospital. Actually, all I remember is being set down on the floor, leaning against the wall, and staring at the gigantic bed that Mamma was resting on.
Before Sandra was born, the family moved to East Moss Point. At the time of her birth, we were living in a house with a Mrs. Yawn. Soon, we moved into what was called “Porterville”. In modern parlance, it would be called low-rent housing. Very low it was - for we had no indoor plumbing, no running water, no bathroom and no electricity. The families shared a common water pump in the middle of the project and community toilets on the edge. There was no icebox, but Mamma had made a hole under the house, lined it with tar paper and packed ice in that for cooling foods.
It was also during the “Porterville” days, 1943, that Daddy first began working at Ingalls Shipbuilding, a job which would cover most of his working years.
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I also began school while living there, but we soon moved a block away into what seemed then to be a big house. It was a strange and unsettling feeling for me as a first-grader to arrive home one day, only to discover my parents had moved down the street a block.
Johnny was born in 1944 at the same hospital as Sandra. Daddy was gone away serving in the war, and the three of us were taken over to Grandma Canfield’s house to stay while Mamma was in the hospital.
Daddy was inducted into the Navy March 15,1944. He spent most of his time in Scotland and Germany, although he was in England, France and Belgium for a short while. He spent about seven months of that time on a switch board operation at a power plant in Scotland, and two months at plant work in Germany. He was honorably discharged November 7, 1945.
While he was away, Mamma and the children moved back to Florida to live with Grandma and Grandpa Walther. I attended second and part of third grade at Allentown School. It was a fun experience to ride the same school bus as the high school students. The nearest I ever came to receiving a serious punishment at school was the day I jumped off the landing behind the cafeteria. Our teacher had told us to stay away from the landing. Somehow, I forgot. One of my classmates told on me and the teacher sent another to get a switch off the peach tree. As she was approaching me down the aisle with switch in hand, I began crying. Obviously a soft-hearted woman, she didn’t use the switch but reminded me never to do it again. Soon, the girl who told on me played on the landing. This time, I told on her. The teacher had no mercy on her.
Daddy’s only brother, Raymond, had enlisted with the CBs. In September of1944, while standing sentry duty on an island in the Pacific, he was shot by a Japanese sniper and he later died from the wounds. He received the Purple Heart and his name appears on the Tablets of the Missing at the Honolulu Memorial in Honolulu, Hawaii. (The “Missing” included those buried at sea or missing in action).
Raymond’s daughter, Dorothy, just three months old, had been born in June after he went into service, and he never had the joy of seeing her.
Following the war, Stephen and Carrie Lee returned to Mississippi, to the same house in East Moss Point. Mamma had saved enough money during the war to buy a lot and begin building a house of her own, which had long been her dream. They soon began the house, and Daddy did a great portion of the work. It was the house in which we Carpenter children grew up. That house remained her home the rest of her life. As humble as it was, she loved it and was proud of it.
Stephen, who despised school as a child, educated himself as an adult. He had begun some electrical courses before he entered the Navy. Once he returned from serving in World War II, he took correspondence courses and taught himself to be a very excellent ship’s electrician.
He spent most of his adult life working in shipbuilding. After moving to Mississippi, every job he ever held involved ships or boats, either at the shipyard, in the Navy, on board a dredgeboat or in a local barge yard. He helped to wire the first nuclear submarine produced by our country. We’ve been told that he installed the first radar unit ever placed on a private yacht - that of Mr. Ingalls who started the shipyard. He was a foreman for the electrical work on the last passenger/cruise ship built at Pascagoula. Van and Jo Ann later enjoyed a cruise on board that same ship.
Mamma became very active in the East Moss Point Baptist Church and each of us began attending church faithfully at an early age. She taught the “Beginners” Sunday School class for about 45 years, loving every minute of it.
I found a scrap of paper on which she had written out her Christian testimony. This is what she wrote:
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“I had known Jesus from a baby when Mama told me about Jesus from day to day. When I was 15 I knew it was time to publically accept Jesus and Oh! How great it was. There has been blessings untold to me... and never ‘no turning back’.”
Alcohol played a controlling role in Daddy’s life. Most of the difficulties he and Mamma ever had related to alcohol. Eventually, it led to their divorce. Daddy remarried but Mamma did not. The second wife died after a few years, and my parents then remarried. She jotted down another note that said, “We later remarried and had a good life together before he passed away. Of course it was not perfect”.
Daddy did make a profession of faith, and attended church somewhat in his last years.
Daddy’s second vice, cigarettes, brought on emphyzema which led to his early death to chronic asthma in 1966.
Mamma then married W. O. Carpenter, a fellow church member and neighbor. With him she enjoyed ten years of a truly Christian marriage. He was a deacon in the church and very active. Together, they visited the sick in the hospitals, taking Sunday’s church flowers to them. Mr. Oren died in 1985.
Mamma remained physically a healthy person, happily working in her garden even until the 85th summer of her life. However, Alzheimer’s disease finally took its toll, and she died in the year 2000, at the age of 88.
Daddy and Mamma are both buried in the Griffin Street Cemetery in Moss Point, Mississippi.
7890.
John Raymond "Red" Carpenter
Killed in Action (KIA) during World War II.
SEE Image: RIN 34427 John R Carpenter.jpg
NOTES: From Barbara Martin:
John died in WWII having never seen in one and only child - a daughter.
E-MAIL:
From: barbaramn
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Subject: Re: [Carpenter Cousins Google Groups] Carpenters who were Killed in action or Missing in action - Those that gave their all ...
John, please add my father’s brother, John Raymond Carpenter, to the list:
John R. Carpenter
Machinist's Mate, Second Class, U.S. Navy
06051678
United States Naval Reserve
AMERICAN BATTLE MONUMENTS COMMISSION
Entered the Service from: Mississippi
Died: September 20, 1944
Missing in Action or Buried at Sea
(He was standing sentry on a Pacific Island when a Japanese sniper shot him. Still alive, he was placed on hospital ship. The ship was bombed by a Japanese suicide plane, sank, and all were lost to the ocean).
DRAFT: WWII - 1940 - image
Name: Raymond John Carpenter
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age: 24
Relationship to Draftee: Self (Head)
Birth Date: 27 Sep 1916
Birth Place: Tallahasee, Florida, USA
Residence Place: Moss Point, Jackson, Mississippi, USA
Registration Date: 16 Oct 1940
Registration Place: Moss Point, Jackson, Mississippi, USA
Employer: Ingalls Ship Yard
Weight: 125
Complexion: Sallow
Eye Color: Blue
Hair Color: Red
Height: 5 7
Next of Kin: Isabelle Kelley Canfield
Household Members:
Name Relationship
Raymond John Carpenter Self (Head)
Isabelle Kelley Canfield Mother
Source Citation
The National Archives in St. Louis, Missouri; St. Louis, Missouri; WWII Draft Registration Cards for Mississippi, 10/16/1940-03/31/1947; Record Group: Records of the Selective Service System, 147; Box: 92
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S. WWII Draft Cards Young Men, 1940-1947 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
MILITARY: M.I.A.
Name: John R Carpenter
Inducted From: Mississippi
Rank: Machinist's Mate Second Class
Combat Organization: United States Navy Reserve
Death Date: 20 Sep 1944
Monument: Honolulu, Hawaii, United States
Last Known Status: Missing
U.S. Awards: Purple Heart Medal
Source Information
National Archives and Records Administration. World War II and Korean Conflict Veterans Interred Overseas [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000.
Original data: National Archives and Records Administration. Register, World War II Dead Interred in American Military Cemeteries on Foreign Soil and World War II and Korea Missing or Lost or Buried at Sea. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration.
SEE ALSO:
Name: John R. Carpenter
State Registered: Hawaii
Death Date: 20 Sep 1944
Cemetery: Tablets of the Missing at Honolulu Memorial
Cemetery Burial Plot: Missing in Action or Buried at Sea
Cemetery City: Honolulu
Cemetery Country: Hawaii
War: World War II
Awards: Purple Heart
Title: MacHinist's Mate, Second Class
Rank: MacHinist's Mate, Second Class
Service: U.S. Navy
Service ID: 6051678
Division: United States Naval Reserve
Data Source: World War II Honor Roll
Source Information
Ancestry.com. WWI, WWII, and Korean War Casualty Listings [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2005.
Original data: American Battle Monuments Commission. World War I Listing; World War II Listing; Korean War Listing. American Battle Monuments Commission.
MILITARY: Dedication - images
Name: John Raymond Carpenter
Year: 1943
School, Station, or Unit: US Naval Construction Battalion No· 073
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S. Navy Support Books, 1901-1902, 1917-2010 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015.
Original data: U.S. Navy Support Books, 1814–2010.
NOTE: per image
BOOK:
US Naval Construction Battalion No· 073 (SEABEES) - Patrol Squadron 19
"To those of the 73rd Battalion who made the Supreme Sacrifice, This book is respectively Dedicated"
The list includes ...
John Raymond Carpenter, MMS2c .................................... Jackson, Mississippi
COMMENT:
On page 15 of the book (image 1151 of 1440) in C Company is ... Middle image, Second row from the top, fourth from the left is: J. R. Carpenter.
On Page 23 of the book (image 1159 of 1440) - 15 Sept 1944 Peleliu D Day - First shore party went in on the 16th wave.
Page 24 - Lt. Powers in charge of unloading operation - dispersing supplies and ammo - "Several men had near accidents in packing ammo from the beach (AKA Orange Beach was the invasion beach) to front lines and it was while doing this task that Casper O'Neal was killed." Translation: near accidents equal brushes with death and men being wounded, but only one was killed in action.
By the morning of the 21 Sept 1944 saw all three ships (LSTs) landed on Purple Beach.
NOTE:
Presidential Unit Citation:
September 15 to 29 1944
Detachment 73rd Naval Construction Battalion's Shore Party (241 Personnel) - Companies A, B, and C.
Citation:
Navy and Marine Corps Awards
Manual NAVPERS 15,790 (REV.1953), Part II, Unit Awards, 15-29 Sept 44 - Assault and seizure of Peleliu and Ngesebus, Palau Islands, p.15
SEE ALSO: (Group III)
https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/n/navy-mc-awards-manual-rev1953/pt2-unit-awards.html
15-29 Sept 44 - Assault and seizure of Peleliu and Ngesebus, Palau Islands.
241 Personnel from 73rd Naval Construction Battalion's Shore Party.
MILITARY: - image - K.I.A.
Name: John Raymond Carpenter
Relative Name: Mrs. Dorothy Roberta Carpenter
Relative Relationship: Wife
State: Mississippi
Country: United States
Type of Casualty: Killed In Action
Roll: ww2c_27
Source Information
Ancestry.com. World War II Navy, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard Casualties, 1941-1945 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007.
Original data: State Summary of War Casualties from World War II for Navy, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard Personnel [Archival Research Catalog]; Records of the Bureau of Naval Personnel, Record Group 24; National Archives at College Park, College Park, MD.
NOTE: Per image
Carpenter, John Raymond, Machinist's Mate 2c, USNR. Wife, Mrs. Dorothy Roberta Carpenter, Box 13, Woodland.
GRAVE: images - US Military memorial for those MIA and buried at Sea or otherwise lie elsewhere.
MM2 John Raymond “Red” Carpenter
Birth: 27 Sep 1916 Florida, USA
Death: 20 Sep 1944 (aged 27)
Cenotaph: Honolulu Memorial, Honolulu, Honolulu County, Hawaii, USA
Plot: Courts of the Missing
Memorial #: 56117315
Bio:
Son of Nathaniel V Carpenter and Isabel Kelly Carpenter Canfield
His brother- Stephen V Carpenter
~~His family erected a cenotaph for him in Griffin Cemetery Moss Point MS.
~~World War II and Korean Conflict Veterans Interred Overseas about Carpenter
Name: John R Carpenter
Inducted From: Mississippi
Rank: Machinist's Mate Second Class
Combat Organization: United States Navy Reserve
Death Date: 20 Sep 1944
Monument: Honolulu, Hawaii, United States
Last Known Status: Missing
U.S. Awards: Purple Heart Medal
~~WWI, WWII, and Korean War Casualty
Listings about John R. Carpenter
Name: John R. Carpenter
State Registered: Hawaii
Death Date: 20 Sep 1944
Cemetery: Tablets of The Missing At Honolulu Memorial Cemetery
Burial Plot: Missing in Action or Buried at Sea Cemetery
City: Honolulu Cemetery
Country: Hawaii
War: World War II
Awards: Purple Heart
Title: MacHinist's Mate, Second Class
Rank: MacHinist's Mate, Second Class
Service: U.S. Navy Service ID: 6051678
Division: United States Naval Reserve
Data Source: World War II Honor Roll
Gravesite Details Entered the service from Mississippi.
Family Members
Parents
Isabel Kelly Canfield 1886-1958
Siblings
Stephen Van Rensselaer Carpenter 1915-1966
John Raymond Carpenter 1916-1944
Frances Eloise Canfield Hill 1924-2017
Maintained by: Linda Ellis (46955879)
Originally Created by: War Graves (6)
Added: 6 Aug 2010
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/56117315
Citation: Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 26 May 2020), memorial page for MM2 John Raymond “Red” Carpenter (27 Sep 1916–20 Sep 1944), Find a Grave Memorial no. 56117315, citing Honolulu Memorial, Honolulu, Honolulu County, Hawaii, USA ; Maintained by Linda Ellis (contributor 46955879) .
GRAVE: see image - Family memorial
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=56117315
MM2 John Raymond "Red" Carpenter
Birth: Sep. 27, 1916
Florida, USA
Death: Sep. 20, 1944
Son of Nathaniel V Carpenter and Isabel Kelly Carpenter Canfield
His brother- Stephen V Carpenter
~~
His family erected a cenotaph for him in Griffin Cemetery Moss Point MS.
~~
World War II and Korean Conflict Veterans Interred Overseas
about Carpenter
Name: John R Carpenter
Inducted From: Mississippi
Rank: Machinist's Mate Second Class
Combat Organization: United States Navy Reserve
Death Date: 20 Sep 1944
Monument: Honolulu, Hawaii, United States
Last Known Status: Missing
U.S. Awards: Purple Heart Medal
~~
WWI, WWII, and Korean War Casualty Listings
about John R. Carpenter
Name: John R. Carpenter
State Registered: Hawaii
Death Date: 20 Sep 1944
Cemetery: Tablets of The Missing At Honolulu Memorial
Cemetery Burial Plot: Missing in Action or Buried at Sea
Cemetery City: Honolulu
Cemetery Country: Hawaii
War: World War II
Awards: Purple Heart
Title: MacHinist's Mate, Second Class
Rank: MacHinist's Mate, Second Class
Service: U.S. Navy
Service ID: 6051678
Division: United States Naval Reserve
Data Source: World War II Honor Roll
Family links:
Parents:
Isabel K Canfield (1886 - 1958)
Note: Entered the service from Mississippi.
Burial:
Honolulu Memorial *
Honolulu
Honolulu County
Hawaii, USA
Plot: Courts of the Missing
*Cenotaph [?]
Maintained by: Linda Ellis
Originally Created by: CWGC/ABMC
Record added: Aug 06, 2010
Find A Grave Memorial# 56117315
NOTE:
COMBAT IN THE PACIFIC - 20 Sept 1944
Palau Islands US 1st Marine Division continues taking heavy casualties while attacking against strong Japanese resistance on Peleliu Island Landings on Peleliu Island, 15 September 1944 through October 1944 Operations in the Palau Islands, 1944-1945 US commander declares end of organized resistance on Angaur, but Japanese units continue to hold part of the island Landings on Angaur Island, September - October 1944
7904.
Amy Belle Carpenter
GRAVE:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=100616328
Amy Belle Carpenter Barnum
Birth: Feb. 20, 1870
Lawrence
Van Buren County
Michigan, USA
Death: Feb. 14, 1962
Husband's great grand aunt. Maiden name Carpenter. Amy Belle Carpenter; daughter of Francis Adelbert Carpenter & Susan Smith. She was born February 10, 1870 in Lawrence, Van Buren Co., MI and died February 14, 1962. She married Byron L. Barnum, April 4, 1886 in Decatur, Van Buren Co., MI.
(source Arleta ♥ (#46898856)
Family links:
Parents:
Francis Adelbert Carpenter (1846 - 1939)
Susanna Smith Carpenter (1842 - 1933)
Spouse:
Byron L. Barnum (1862 - 1928)
Children:
Esther Barnum Barnhart (1890 - 1956)*
Frank L. Barnum (1892 - 1915)*
Olive Maude Barnum (1902 - 1927)*
Siblings:
William Francis Carpenter (1868 - 1941)*
Amy Belle Carpenter Barnum (1870 - 1962)
Orrie M. Carpenter Clark (1871 - 1967)*
Maude Estelle Carpenter Howe (1873 - 1948)*
Roswell H. Carpenter (1875 - 1917)*
James "Erwin" Carpenter (1877 - 1948)*
Altha V. Carpenter Elliott (1880 - 1947)*
Nellie A. Carpenter McAdams (1883 - 1955)*
*Calculated relationship
Burial:
Harrison Cemetery
Decatur
Van Buren County
Michigan, USA
Created by: Jack Weiszer
Record added: Nov 12, 2012
Find A Grave Memorial# 100616328
Byron L. Barnum
GRAVE: good images
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=100616198
Byron L. Barnum
Birth: Feb. 28, 1862
Michigan, USA
Death: Jan. 28, 1928
Decatur
Van Buren County
Michigan, USA
Name: Byron L Barnum
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 28 Jan 1928
Event Place: Decatur, Van Buren, Michigan, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 65
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 28 Feb 1862
Birthplace: Michigan
Birth Year (Estimated): 1863
Father's Name: John Barnum
Mother's Name: Lugen Larabee
(source Sandy Vandertol (#47946311)
Family links:
Spouse:
Amy Belle Carpenter Barnum (1870 - 1962)*
Children:
Esther Barnum Barnhart (1890 - 1956)*
Frank L. Barnum (1892 - 1915)*
Olive Maude Barnum (1902 - 1927)*
*Calculated relationship
Burial:
Harrison Cemetery
Decatur
Van Buren County
Michigan, USA
Created by: Jack Weiszer
Record added: Nov 12, 2012
Find A Grave Memorial# 100616198