NOTE:
This is NOT the Peter “Hairy” Carpenter aka Zimmerman-163958 (1762 - 1845), son of Christian “CZ” Zimmerman-92091 from PA. That line is well documented.COMMENT:
New Hanover County, North Carolina.
Located in the Low Country or Tidewater of North Carolina, the county was formed in 1729 as New Hanover Precinct of Bath County, from Craven Precinct. It was named for the House of Hanover, a German royal family then ruling Great Britain. In 1734 parts of New Hanover Precinct became Bladen Precinct and Onslow Precinct. With the abolition of Bath County in 1739, all of its constituent precincts became counties.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Hanover_County,_North_CarolinaNOTE:
New Hanover County, North Carolina
First Settled / By: 1720s / English/Welsh, Scots-Irish
...
In May of 1713, Barren Island (Bald Head) was granted to Landgrave Thomas Smith, and in 1725 Governor George Burrington began to distribute land along the Cape Fear for colonization. Many of the new settlers came from South Carolina because of the lower taxes in North Carolina. Maurice Moore founded Brunswick Town on his grant on the west bank of the river - in present-day Brunswick County - and by June of 1726, a map of the town was filed with the Secretary of the Province. The next year a ferry was in operation across the river.In 1729, New Hanover Precinct was formed from Craven Precinct. New Hanover was named after the house of Hanover, of King George II. By 1730, a few Quakers settled in the Cape Fear area. Little is known about them, for all records have been lost.
In 1731, the lower Cape Fear spawned a few wealthy families whose lives became connected by marriage and economic interests. Thirty five members of the "Family," as historian Lawrence Lee termed them, owned 115,000 acres of land privately. The "Family" consisted of the Moores–Maurice, Roger, and Nathaniel, Edward Moseley, John Baptista Ashe, Samuel and John Swann, Thomas Jones, Edward Smith, Mosely Vail, Eleazer Allen, John Porter, and John Grange. In April, Governor George Burrington, who counted the Brunswick Town clique among his many enemies, asked the General Assembly to "pass an Act for building a Town on Cape Fear and appointing Commissioners for that purpose."
The present site of Wilmington was laid out in 1733 and it was first called New Carthage, then New Liverpool, then New Town or Newton. John Watson granted 640 acres in New Hanover Precinct. Watson, along with Joshua Grainger, Michael Higgins, and James Wimble were the chief owners of land on which Wilmington now stands. In April of 1733, they joined in laying out the town after a plan similar to that of Brunswick, originally settled in 1726 across the Cape Fear River.
Governor Gabriel Johnston's taking office in 1734 continued the feud with the "Family." By declaration he opened the Land Office on May 13, 1735, in Newton (Wilmington) to "prevent confusion and unnecessary disputes," and he ordered the Court of Exchequer and the Court of Oyer and Terminer to convene there instead of in Brunswick Town. The fortunes of Brunswick Town declined from that time forward. It was largely deserted and was burned during the American Revolutionary War. On the other hand, Governor Johnston reported "amazing progress" in Cape Fear development during Newton's first eight years.
https://www.carolana.com/NC/Counties/new_hanover_county_nc.htmlNOTE: EARLY NEW HANOVER CENSUS
No Carpenters cited on the New Hanover County Early Census indexes cited at:
https://www.ncgenweb.us/newhanover/early.html
No Carpenters on the 1786 NC State Census for New Hanover County
https://www.ncgenweb.us/newhanover/1786.htmlMILITARY: 1780 - 3 images - 3 claims
Name: Peter Carpenter
Event Type: Military Service
Event Date: 15 Jun 1780
Event Place: Wilmington, New Hanover, North Carolina, United States
Event Place (Original): Wilmington,, North Carolina, United States
Gender: Male
Digital Folder Number: 004320481
Image Number: 00876
Citing this Record
"North Carolina Revolutionary Pay Vouchers, 1779-1782," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WT-PR8V : accessed 2 May 2020), Peter Carpenter, 15 Jun 1780; citing Wilmington, New Hanover, North Carolina, United States, State Archives of North Carolina, Raleigh.
NOTE:
Peter got 60 pounds then 20 pounds then yet another 20 pounds 5 shillings per the THREE images all dated 15 June 1780.MILITARY: 1783 - image
Name: Peter Carpenter
Event Type: Military Service
Event Date: 18 Dec 1783
Event Place: Wilmington, New Hanover, North Carolina, United States
Event Place (Original): Wilmington,, North Carolina, United States
Gender: Male
Digital Folder Number: 004320481
Image Number: 00870
Citing this Record
"North Carolina Revolutionary Pay Vouchers, 1779-1782," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WT-5CYV : accessed 2 May 2020), Peter Carpenter, 18 Dec 1783; citing Wilmington, New Hanover, North Carolina, United States, State Archives of North Carolina, Raleigh.
NOTE:
The two ink stains on the image match up with the image for Owen Carpenter and has the same clerk.
Peter received 19 pounds, 3 shillings and 6 pence Spieces.CENSUS: 1790 US Census
Name: Peter Carpinter [Peter Carpenter]
Home in 1790 (City, County, State): New Hanover, North Carolina
Free White Persons - Males - 16 and over: 1 <---- b. before 1774
Free White Persons - Females: 1
Number of Slaves : 13
Number of Household Members: 15
Source Citation
Year: 1790; Census Place: New Hanover, North Carolina; Series: M637; Roll: 7; Page: 57; Image: 381; Family History Library Film: 0568147
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1790 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: First Census of the United States, 1790 (NARA microfilm publication M637, 12 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
SEE ALSO:
https://www.ncgenweb.us/newhanover/1790cen.htmlCENSUS: 1800 US Census
Name: Peter Carpenter
Home in 1800 (City, County, State): Wilmington, New Hanover, North Carolina
Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44: 1 <------- b. abt 1756 to 1774
Number of Household Members Over 25:
Number of Household Members: 1
Source Citation
Year: 1800; Census Place: Wilmington, New Hanover, North Carolina; Series: M32; Roll: 33; Page: 4; Image: 163; Family History Library Film: 337909
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1800 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: Second Census of the United States, 1800. NARA microfilm publication M32 (52 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
Second Census of the United States, 1800: Population Schedules, Washington County, Territory Northwest of the River Ohio; and Population Census, 1803: Washington County, Ohio. NARA microfilm publication M1804 (1 roll).
NOTE: Not on the following list:
https://www.ncgenweb.us/newhanover/1800cen.htmlCENSUS: 1810 US Census
PROBATE: 1811 - 8 images
Name: Peter Carpenter
Probate Date: Feb 1811
Probate Place: New Hanover, North Carolina, USA
Inferred Death Year: Abt 1811
Inferred Death Place: North Carolina, USA
Item Description: Estate Records, Calder, Robert E. - Colvin, Hanson M. --- Ca. 1757-1916
Table of Contents 8 images
Cover Page 1–2
Sales Paper 3–4
Inventory Papers 5–8
Source Citation
New Hanover County, North Carolina Original Estate Records, Ca. 1741-1942; Author: North Carolina. Probate Court (New Hanover County), North Carolina. Superior Court (New Hanover County); Probate Place: New Hanover, North Carolina
Source Information
Ancestry.com. North Carolina, Wills and Probate Records, 1665-1998 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015.
Original data: North Carolina County, District and Probate Courts.
NOTE: Per images ... Some images out of date order.
Property sale signed Dec 7, 1811 for a total of $4338.26.
Summary of Real estate probate that includes some 1300 aces of land and at least 4 lots. Dated 20 Feb 1811.COMMENT: By Ed Carpenter pleascyd@gmail.com (June 2021)
There is no proof of where Peter was born and it is conjecture as to him being connected to or related to Owen - 141916 as far as I can tell.
All I know is that PETER shows up on EVENT DATE: June 15, 1780 in Wilmington, Hanover, North Carolina receiving a Revolutionary War pay voucher. Peter got 60 pounds and 20 pounds 5 shillings. On EVENT DATE: December 18 he again receives another pay voucher.
(Recap of census data)
Peter had the following children:
8 M- WILLIAM CARPENTER - 204204 was born about 1800/1804 in of, New Hanover, North Carolina, USA. He died about 3 July, 1824. In New Hanover, North Carolina, USA.
9 M- JOHN CARPENTER - 209502 was born about 1803/1805 in New Hanover, North Carolina USA.
I have tried to find information on these children but thus far have come up empty handed. If a descendant of these children or Peter could be found today and be DNA tested we could find out if they are related to OWEN - 141916 1730/1740.
CENSUS: 1820 US Census
Name: William Carpenter
Home in 1820 (City, County, State): New Hanover, New Hanover, North Carolina
Enumeration Date: August 7, 1820
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25: 2
Total Free White Persons: 2
Total All Persons - White, Slaves, Colored, Other: 2
Source Citation
1820 U S Census; Census Place: New Hanover, New Hanover, North Carolina; Page: 227; NARA Roll: M33_84; Image: 233
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1820 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: Fourth Census of the United States, 1820. (NARA microfilm publication M33, 142 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.PROBATE: June 1825 - images
Name: Wm Carpenter
Probate Date: Jun 1825
Probate Place: New Hanover, North Carolina, USA
Inferred Death Year: Abt 1825
Inferred Death Place: North Carolina, USA
Case Number: 80
Item Description: Estate Records, Calder, Robert E. - Colvin, Hanson M. --- Ca. 1757-1916
Table of Contents 15 images
Cover Page 1
Inventory Papers 2–12
Administration Papers 13–15
Source Citation
New Hanover County, North Carolina Original Estate Records, Ca. 1741-1942; Author: North Carolina. Probate Court (New Hanover County), North Carolina. Superior Court (New Hanover County); Probate Place: New Hanover, North Carolina
Source Information
Ancestry.com. North Carolina, Wills and Probate Records, 1665-1998 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015.
Original data: North Carolina County, District and Probate Courts.
SEE ALSO: 1825 - images
Name: William Carpenter
Probate Date: 1825
Probate Place: New Hanover, North Carolina, USA
Inferred Death Year: Abt 1825
Inferred Death Place: North Carolina, USA
Item Description: Estate Records, Calder, Robert E. - Colvin, Hanson M. --- Ca. 1757-1916
Table of Contents 1 images
Cover Page 1
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Source Citation
New Hanover County, North Carolina Original Estate Records, Ca. 1741-1942; Author: North Carolina. Probate Court (New Hanover County), North Carolina. Superior Court (New Hanover County); Probate Place: New Hanover, North Carolina
Source Information
Ancestry.com. North Carolina, Wills and Probate Records, 1665-1998 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015.
Original data: North Carolina County, District and Probate Courts.
NOTE: Per images from all of the above.
The Sheriff of New Hanover County is ordered to collect $147.47 (includes interest from the date of 15 Dec 1825) from Eli Larkins and John Walker to be paid to the estate of WIlliam Carpenter. An additional $10 from them for costs.
NOTE: Another image (448 of 1971)
The Sheriff of New Hanover County is ordered to collect $147.47 plus $9.06 for costs. This order dated 2nd Monday of Dec 1831 (12 Dec 1831)
NOTE: Another image (450 of 1971)
The Sheriff of New Hanover County is ordered to collect $437.37 with interest from 3 July 1824 plus $8.73 for costs. This order dated 2nd Monday of February 1825 (14 Feb 1825).
NOTE: Per images 451 to 465 of 1971 showing property sold and notes collected to a total of $6,040.21.
NOTE: Per image 462 of 1971
John Carpenter is an heir to the estate of WIlliam Carpenter dated 13 Nov 1824 as noted by the Administrators of the estate. But, no relation given. I assume John is the brother and likely cited on the 1820 Census.
NOTE: Per image 464 of 1971
Benjamin Carpenter has the desire to have the negro children Vincent and Belinda formerly owned by William Carpenter to be sent to New York. Dated 1 May 1839 from Cyrus Stow. Who this Benjamin Carpenter is unknown other than he is of New York.
CENSUS: 1820 US Census
He is the assumed second male age 16 to 25 and heir to the estate of brother William Carpenter who died in 1824.NOTE: I did NOT find one record of John Carpenter in the census records of New Hanover, NC. Likely he went else where. Maybe New York?
E-MAIL:
From: Terry Carpenter mailto:diluvius@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 3:17 AM
To: Kevin Carpenter mailto:southerneagle@windstream.net ; John R. Carpenter mailto:jrcrin001@cox.net
Subject: Re: My Carpenter family
John and Kevin,Apologies for the lagtime in replying -- 4-day workweeks are always longer than 5-day workweeks in terms of hours worked. This is a line I've done substantial research on in the past. I haven't seen any original research on them since Ken Morrow 6-7 years ago. There are female descendants for whom the marriages and children are known, but who cannot be placed without further analysis of the records -- they are especially important because they often were the keepers of the family history. This is a summary of the line of descent:
Owen Carpenter, born ca. 1765, probably in NC, married by ca. 1785 in Moore Co. NC to Sarah Smith {she is sometimes erroneously listed as "Sarah Rachel Smith" which is an indication that the researcher has not done original research}. In 1790 he was enumerated in Montgomery Co. NC. He was in Franklin Co. GA by 1798. By 1820, he had followed two of his sons to Mississippi and settled in Lawrence Co. MS, where he was enumerated as "Owen Carpenter Snr." He doesn't appear as a head of household in the 1830 census but may have resided with a daughter and thus would not have shown up as a head of household. He died before 1833, in which year his widow Sarah was listed as head of household in Holmes Co. MS. In the December court term of 1836, one of his sons was appointed administrator of Sarah's estate in Carroll Co. MS; the estate was divided in the September 1841 term of court. Not all of Owen's and Sarah's descendants are known. Some can be placed using deeds, tax lists, the 1820-1880 censuses, the probate of Sarah (Smith) Carpenter's estate, and various other sources. Owen was father of:
- William Carpenter, born ca. 1786 in NC, died after 1850. In 1813 he was listed on a tax roll in Lawrence Co. MS. He enlisted in Lawrence Co. MS in 1815 in Captain William Smith's Company, 13th (Nixon's) Regiment of Mississippi Militia and served at New Orleans in the War of 1812. He signed a petition from the inhabitants of Marion Co. and Lawrence Co. MS in 1815. He married ca. 1810 to Susan _?_(maiden surname not known), who was born ca. 1788 in NC. They were enumerated in Lawrence Co. MS in 1820, in Copiah Co. MS in 1830, and in Yalobusha Co. MS in 1840 and 1850. William was father of:
-- Green Carpenter, born ca. 1830 in MS, died after 1880. He married by ca. 1853 to Nancy _?_, who was born ca. 1835 in MS. He is not yet absolutely proved as a son of William Carpenter, but he is posited here because in 1902 his son Wiley M. Carpenter witnessed an affidavit as a nephew of Derrel Carpenter, placing this Green Carpenter as a brother of Derrel, who was a proved son of William of Owen. Green Carpenter was enumerated in Clark Co. AR in 1860, in Hot Spring Co. AR in 1870, and in Garland Co. AR in 1880. He served in the Civil War in the 4th Arkansas Union Cavalry, with Derrell Carpenter, George W. Carpenter, John Carpenter, John W. Carpenter, Stephen H. Carpenter, and William F. M. Carpenter. Father of:
--- Green H. Carpenter, born in Dec 1861 per the 1900 census. He married first on 28 Dec 1886 in Garland Co. AR to Mollie E. Moose, second ca. 1899 to Alice, who was born in Jan 1881 in GA, and third on 10 Aug 1910 in Garland Co. AR to Annie Chancelor, who was born ca. 1894 in AR. Father of:
---- William Arthur Carpenter, born ca. 1887 in Garland Co. AR, married in 1911 to Mary E., who was born ca. 1892 in TX. He completed his WWIDRC in Kaufman Co. TX in Jan 1917. In 1930 he and his family were enumerated in Kaufman Co. TX with children:
----- 1. Elma L. Carpenter (son), born ca. 1912 in TX. <-- This appears to be your Elmer
----- 2. Bertie M. Carpenter (daughter), born ca. 1915.
----- 3. Sallie B. Carpenter, born ca. 1920.
----- 4. William A. Carpenter, born ca. 1926.If you can add to the genealogy, I'd like to keep a record of it in my research files. I'm primarily interested in the generations prior to 1860 -- I put most of my research time into sorting out all the early southern lines and finding their origins.
Terry
Terry added later: Owen Carpenter, b c1765, m c1785-1787 in Moore Co. NC Sarah Smith.JRC:
For example: Compare the following where 2 lines are mashed together. Child 5 Owen Carpenter matches this person, but the Ancestry is from another line.
http://www.genealogy.com/users/c/a/r/Thomas-Clinton-C-ardwell/FILE/0010page.html
5. Owen2 Carpenter (Thomas Owen1) was born 1765 in North Carolina, and died Abt. 1828 in Lawrence Co., MS. He married Sarah Rachel Smith Abt. 1785 in Moore Co., NC.
Children of Owen Carpenter and Sarah Smith are:
10 i. William3 Carpenter, born Abt. 1787.
11 ii. John Carpenter, born Abt. 1789.
12 iii. Nancy Carpenter, born Abt. 1790.
13 iv. Catharine Carpenter, born Abt. 1793.
14 v. Owen Carpenter, born Abt. 1795.
15 vi. Dennis Carpenter, born Abt. 1798. He married Elizabeth Wallace February 06, 1821 in Lawrence Co., MS.
16 vii. Nathan Carpenter, born Abt. 1797.
17 viii. Henry Carpenter, born Abt. 1806.
18 ix. Mary Carpenter, born Abt. 1809. She married Everett Smith July 26, 1821 in Lawrence Co., MS.
19 x. Malinda Carpenter, born Abt. 1813.
20 xi. Green Carpenter, born Abt. 1815.
2. Bible of Matthew Carpenter.Monroe County, N. C. Bible Project, Vol. IIBible in possession of Ruth Evan Owen, Clinton, Miss.MORE:
From: bc27 ad1453 mailto:bc27ad1453@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 11:10 PM
To: Wm David Carpenter mailto:wm.david.carpenter@gmail.com> ; 'John R. Carpenter' mailto:jrcrin001@cox.net>
Cc: '00 Carpenter Terry' mailto:diluvius@yahoo.com> ; southerneagle@windstream.net mailto:southerneagle@windstream.net> ; '00 Chandler John' mailto:john.chandler@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: Southern Carpenters - a reply from Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project
David,
As far as I know, it is not even in dispute that you descend from Owen Carpenter (b. ~1765, d. ~1828, MS) and Sarah Smith. Terry?
I do not know how much ground Terry has covered with you, but there almost certainly was no "Thomas Owen Carpenter." My very own uncle, Morris Carpenter, started that by taking a liberty he never should have taken, due to his inexperience at the time, back in the late '70s when he did his own research. He discovered my ancestor, Temple(ton) Carpenter (b. ~1768, NC), and traced him from MS back to NC. Bible records established that Temple was son of a Thomas Carpenter, however there is no known surviving record of a Thomas Carpenter in Anson/Montgomery or Cumberland/Moore Co., NC at that time. By default, my uncle just assumed that Owen Sr. of Cumberland/Moore must be Thomas, as if he were fully Thomas Owen Carpenter. It is not out of the question, but certainly not proven (no record exists which names a Thomas Owen Carpenter), and probably unlikely. Instead Thomas likely died young (Temple was enumerated in 1790 - and even earlier in 1786(?) in the state census, I think - as a single bachelor and head-of-household, which was consistent at that time with a man's father being dead). Of course, Owen Sr. was dead then! But I still think we are looking for a Thomas, distinct from Owen Sr., who died young, perhaps in the war.
Your Owen (b. ~1765), on the other hand, has always appeared to me to be the son of Owen Sr., based in no small part on the names he gave his children and in the order in which he gave them. Now it should be emphasized that naming is never in any way, shape, or form, proof of anything; however, the names Owen of Lawrence gave his children remain remarkable nonetheless. Catherine is there, as is Dennis (and probably others that I cannot remember), and they are right where you would expect them to be if Owen of Lawrence were (a) son of Owen Sr., and (b) using a certain extremely common naming pattern of the time. Note that Temple, although he named a son Owen, included none of those distinctive names associated with Owen Sr.'s family. Instead, he alone of all the Carpenters from that area named a son Solomon, and Solomon (b. ~1770) alone of all the Carpenters from that area named a son Temple, and circumstantially I think you have to lean toward Temple and Solomon being brothers, both sons of the mysterious Thomas (indeed Solomon alone of all them named a son Thomas). Furthermore, both Temple and Solomon are enumerated in Montgomery Co., NC in 1790 as young bachelors and heads-of-household, consistent again with their father being dead (men did not leave home back then until they got married). Your Owen shared Temple's migration pattern and Solomon did not (he went to Bedford Co., TN). But I believe that is only because each man migrated with his wife's family (which from observation I have come to suspect was the general rule), and both your Owen (b. ~1765) and my Temple were connected to that Smith family through marriage (Owen directly and Temple indirectly). Remember that they were part of the Nathan Smith Settlement in Franklin Co., GA.
I am delighted that you joined the project! We are about to stand on much firmer ground with our speculations about this family. Now, if a male Carpenter descendant of Owen of Tippah were to surface and test, we would be on that much firmer ground (recall the "German" speculations about Owen Sr., suggesting that Owen Sr. was not even related to Group 7). Again, I suspect that Owen (b. ~1777 of Tippah was Owen Sr.'s grandson. If we are dealing with two unrelated families, one German and one British, the structures will become a lot clearer after both your test and the test of an Owen of Tippah descendant. On the other hand, if everybody tests as Group 7, then we will be pretty much where we have always been, excepting that we will have ruled out the Owen Sr. "German" story.
BTW, I see below in the thread reference to another genealogical "urban legend," much like my uncle's "Thomas Owen Carpenter" fiasco, that being the statement that Owen Sr.'s wife Catherine was a Shamberger. I believe I personally was responsible for that one. I merely threw out that possibility to somebody once, based upon the fact that Owen Sr.'s grave today sits on Shamberger land. But that of course proves nothing. Yet there are plenty of people today who now firmly believe that Owen Sr.'s wife Catherine was a Shamberger, all because I was insufficently cautious with my words once, maybe 15 years ago.
Kevin W. CarpenterMILITARY: 1783 - War payment - image (or is this for his father?)
Owen Carpenter receives on 12 Aug 1783 from North Carolina, District of Wilmington, some 63 pounds, 17 shillings and ten pence Spiecies for his service.
Name: Owen Carpenter
Event Type: Military Service
Event Date: 14 Aug 1783
Event Place: Wilmington, New Hanover, North Carolina, United States
Event Place (Original): Wilmington,, North Carolina, United States
Gender: Male
Digital Folder Number: 004320481
Image Number: 00862
Citing this Record
"North Carolina Revolutionary Pay Vouchers, 1779-1782," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WT-G9KW : accessed 2 May 2020), Owen Carpenter, 14 Aug 1783; citing Wilmington, New Hanover, North Carolina, United States, State Archives of North Carolina, Raleigh.
NOTE:
See COMMENT below by Lynne Collins. This is from her Ancestry Family tree Gallery.
NOTE:
Wilimington is located is located in the far south east of the State of North Carolina.
WIKI:
The Wilmington Historic District is a national historic district located at Wilmington, New Hanover County, North Carolina. The district encompasses 875 contributing buildings 38 contributing sites, and 3 contributing structures in the historic core and surrounding residential sections of Wilmington.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmington_Historic_DistrictMILITARY: 1783 - image
Name: *En Carpenter <---- ink stain over first part of fore name leaving the letters "en." I suspect it is Owen Carpenter
Event Type: Military Service
Event Date: 04 Dec 1783
Event Place: Wilmington, New Hanover, North Carolina, United States
Event Place (Original): Wilmington,, North Carolina, United States
Gender: Male
Digital Folder Number: 004320481
Image Number: 00864
Citing this Record
"North Carolina Revolutionary Pay Vouchers, 1779-1782," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WT-GQN4 : accessed 2 May 2020), *En Carpenter, 04 Dec 1783; citing Wilmington, New Hanover, North Carolina, United States, State Archives of North Carolina, Raleigh.CENSUS: 1790 US Census - see image: RIN 139274 Owen Carpenter 1790.jpg
1790 United States Federal Census
about Owen Carpenter Name: Owen Carpenter
Home in 1790 (City, County, State): Moore, North Carolina
Free White Persons - Males - Under 16: 3
Free White Persons - Males - 16 and over: 3
Free White Persons - Females: 4
Number of Household Members: 10
Source Citation: Year: 1790; Census Place: , Moore, North Carolina; Roll: M637_7; Page: 157; Image: 434; Family History Library Film: 0568147.
QUESTION: Who is the following Owen Carpenter?
Name: Owen Carpenter
Home in 1790 (City, County, State): Montgomery, North Carolina
Free White Persons - Males - Under 16: 2
Free White Persons - Males - 16 and over: 2
Free White Persons - Females: 1
Number of Household Members: 5
Source Citation
Year: 1790; Census Place: Montgomery, North Carolina; Series: M637; Roll: 7; Page: 408; Image: 562; Family History Library Film: 0568147
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1790 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: First Census of the United States, 1790 (NARA microfilm publication M637, 12 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.CENSUS: 1800 US Census - see image: RIN 139274 Owen Carpenter 1800.jpg
1800 United States Federal Census
about Owen Carpenter Name: Owen Carpenter
Home in 1800 (City, County, State): Fayetteville, Moore, North Carolina
Free White Persons - Males -10 thru 15: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25: 1
Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over: 1
Number of Household Members Under 16: 2
Number of Household Members Over 25: 1
Number of Household Members: 4
Source Citation: Year: 1800; Census Place: Fayetteville, Moore, North Carolina; Roll #32; Page #49; Image: 58; Family History Library Film: 337908.LAND: image (Owen Carpenter - 1791)
Name: Owen Carpenter
Issue Date: 20 Aug 1802
Residence Place: Moore, North Carolina, USA
Certificate Number Range: 1606-1793a
Description: Moore 1606-1793a
Source Information
Ancestry.com. North Carolina, Land Grant Files, 1693-1960 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
Original data: North Carolina Land Grants. Microfilm publication, 770 rolls. North Carolina State Archives, Raleigh, North Carolina.
Description
This collection consists of North Carolina land grant files, including warrants, surveys, and other documents.BOOK:
Index to the colonial and state records of North Carolina covering volumes i-xxv : published under the supervision of the trust . Page 281 Index page - see image: RIN 139274 Owen Carpenter NCBKpg281.jpgCENSUS: 1810 US Census
CENSUS: 1818 Mississippi State Census
Name: Owen Carpenter
Census Date: 1818
County: Lawrence
Line: 7
Roll: v229_2
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Mississippi, State and Territorial Census Collection, 1792-1866 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007.
Original data: Mississippi State and Territorial Censuses, 1792-1866. Microfilm V229. 3 rolls. Heritage Quest.CENSUS: 1820 US Census
Name: Owen Carpenter Senior
Home in 1820 (City, County, State): Miscellaneous Townships, Lawrence, Mississippi
Enumeration Date: August 7, 1820
Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 15: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over: 2
Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44: 1
Slaves - Males - 14 thru 25: 1
Free White Persons - Under 16: 2
Free White Persons - Over 25: 4
Total Free White Persons: 6
Total Slaves: 1
Total All Persons - White, Slaves, Colored, Other: 7
Source Citation
1820 U S Census; Census Place: Miscellaneous Townships, Lawrence, Mississippi; Page: 62; NARA Roll: M33_57; Image: 76
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1820 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: Fourth Census of the United States, 1820. (NARA microfilm publication M33, 142 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.GRAVE: no image - memorial only
Owen Carpenter
Birth: 1765 Moore County, North Carolina, USA
Death: 1828 (aged 62–63) Lawrence County, Mississippi, USA
Burial: Unknown
Memorial #: 62185840
Bio:
Owen Carpenter was born 1765 in North Carolina, and died Abt. 1828 in Lawrence Co., MS. He married Sarah Rachel Smith Abt. 1785 in Moore Co., NC.
Children of Owen Carpenter and Sarah Smith are:
i. William Carpenter, born Abt. 1787.
ii. John Carpenter, born Abt. 1789.
iii.Nancy Carpenter, born Abt. 1790.
iv. Catharine Carpenter, born Abt. 1793.
v. Owen Carpenter, born Abt. 1795.
vi. Dennis Carpenter, born Abt. 1798. He married Elizabeth Wallace February 06, 1821 in Lawrence Co., MS.
vii. Nathan Carpenter, born Abt. 1797.
viii.Henry Carpenter, born Abt. 1806.
ix. Mary Carpenter, born Abt. 1809. She married Everett Smith July 26, 1821 in Lawrence Co., MS.
x. Malinda Carpenter, born Abt. 1813.
xi. Green Carpenter, born Abt. 1815.
Family Members
Parents
Thomas Owen Carpenter 1740-1780
Catherine Shamberger Carpenter 1743-Unknown
Spouse
Sarah Rachael Smith Carpenter
Siblings
Infant Carpenter 1780-Unknown
Children
John Carpenter 1789-1857
Created by: John Andrew Meyer (46869698)
Added: 26 Nov 2010
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/62185840
Citation: Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 13 June 2019), memorial page for Owen Carpenter (1765–1828), Find A Grave Memorial no. 62185840, ; Maintained by John Andrew Meyer (contributor 46869698) Unknown.Other Notes for OWEN CARPENTER:
Owned 80 acres on Bahala Creek in Lawrence County, MS according to 1814, 1816, 1818, 1820, 1821, 1822, 1824, and 1825 tax rolls. In 1817 owned 160 acres on Bogue Chitto Creek according to Lawrence County MS tax rolls. In 1818 owned 130 acres on Pearl River according to Lawrence County MS tax rolls. In 1819 owned 430 acres on Pearl River according to Lawrence County MS tax rolls.
Lived in Lawrence County, MS at time of 1820 census.COMMENT: By Ed Carpenter pleascyd@gmail.com (June 2021)
Owen and his family resided in Moore and Montgomery Counties until around 1794.
Owen was enumerated In the Montgomery County 1790 Census. It showed him as 25 years of age with 3 males 0-16, 1 male 16+, and 3 females and 4 others. Males 0-16 John, age 1, William age 4, Adam age 14. Ages 16+, Dennis, age 18, Mary age 21. Some must not have been his children. Adam, Dennis, and Mary may have been his siblings.
Owen shows up in Franklin Co., Georgia by 1795. Prior to leaving for Georgia, Moore Co. records of 1794 show Owen Carpenter 1773-1864, John Carpenter 1780, and a Sarah Carpenter (1782), orphaned children, who were bound to him and the court ordered his Bond be discharged. Terry Carpenter and John R. Carpenter administrators at the Carpenter Cousins Project, are fairly certain that the OWEN giving up the children is our OWEN Carpenter - 139274 born 1765. They believe OWEN was caring for the three and he was their Uncle and not their Father. They believe Owen -142307 and John - 142308 ended up in Lincoln Co. Tennessee and later Tippah Co. Mississippi. It is not known what happen to Sarah - 142309. They speculate that JOHN Carpenter - 141919 (1754), another son of OWEN 1730/1740 is their father. JOHN presumably died young (1780’s) and left three orphans and his brother OWEN (1765) ended up caring for them. Owen was preparing to leave for Franklin County, Georgia, at the time of the above court record, where he was in 1795, which may explain why he was giving up the orphans.
John and Terry also believe the orphan John - 142308 born 1780’s is the same John 1780’s that married Penelope McAfee in Williamson, Tennessee in 1808 and eventually ended up in Tishomingo County, Mississippi. He is believed to be the father of Adam Haywood Carpenter.
Sometime after the above court hearing in 1794 OWEN - 139274 moved his family to Franklin County, Georgia. It appears that Owen’s father-in-law Nathan Smith had moved his family there around 1791 to establish the Nathan Smith Settlement and Owen followed him there. Prior to the Revolutionary War, in 1773 the Cherokee and Creek Indians ceded large areas of land to the Georgia Colony and settlers started moving there. After the Revolutionary War individual states gained sovereignty over the back country and many states, including Georgia, concluded treaties with Native American tribes and encouraged people from other states to come and set up settlements. This is probably what prompted Nathan Smith and Owen, and many other families in North Carolina to move to Georgia. Georgia began granting land deeds to settlers between 1783 and 1788. The exact date Owen and Nathan Smith actually acquired the land is not known but is appears that Nathan and others to begin clearing the land for the Nathan Smith Settlement in 1791.
Shortly after arriving in Georgia, they learned that the lands they were deeded were disputed by the Cherokee and Creek tribes. The tribes complained that the Nathan Smith Settlement was on their land. Unfortunately, the land grant system was not well regulated and many settlers were sold or granted land that was yet to be surveyed. That was the case with the Nathan Smith Settlement.
An Indian Agent named Benjamin Hawkins was sent from Washington to settle the issue and he decided in the favor of the Indians. This controversy continued and in 1798 the settlers, OWEN, Nathan Smith, Stephen Smith, Nicholas Smith, James Minyard and 41 others petitioned Governor James Jackson to have the line rerun or take such action to protect them in the possession of their homes. This resulted in the “Four-Mile-Purchase” of 1804 where the Indians ceded a strip of land four miles wide and twenty miles but the controversy continued for years as some of the settlers were left outside the new line.
OWEN shows up on the Franklin County, Georgia Tax lists for 1800, 1801, 1803, 1805, and 1807.
However, sometime prior to 1813, Owen and many others settlers became discouraged and decided to sell their lands, warranted against all but Indian claims, and moved to new lands in Mississippi that were given up by the Choctaw Indians. Nathan Smith and his wife remained in Georgia and is believed to be buried in Banks County, Georgia.
In 1812 is believed OWEN and most of his family moved to Carroll and Lawrence County, Mississippi. Stephen and Nicholas Smith, James Minyard, Temple Carpenter also called it quits and moved their families at the same time. Each of the families purchased land in the Mississippi Delta of Lawrence and Carroll Counties, along Fair River, Bahala, Bogue Chitto, and McCall Creek areas. Owen was enumerated in the Mississippi Census as Owen Carpenter Senior for that year.
Owen shows up in the 1820 United States Census in Lawrence County. Mississippi as follows:
Free White males - under 10: 1
Free White males - 10 thru 15: 1
Free White males - 26 thru 44: 1
Free White males - 45 and over: 2
Free White females - 26 thru 44: 1
Slaves - male- 14 thru 25: 1
Free White persons - under 16: 2
Free White person - over 25: 4
Total Free White Persons: 6
Total Slaves: 1
Owen does not appear in the 1830 Census but may have resided with a daughter and thus would not have shown up as a head of household. He died before 1833, in which year his widow, Sarah, was listed as head of household in Holmes Co. Mississippi. In the December court terms of 1836, one of his sons was appointed administrator of Sarah’s estate in Carroll Co. Mississippi and the estate was divided in September 1841 terms of the court.
OWEN and SARAH had the following children:
1. 10 M - WILLIAM CARPENTER - 139273 was born about 1886 in Moore Co. N.C. and died on July 3, 1863.
2. 11 M - JOHN CARPENTER - 141904 was born about 1789 in Moore Co. NC and died on June 12, 1857
3. 12 F - NANCY CARPENTER -141905 was born about 1790 and died.
4. 13 F - CATHERINE CARPENTER - 141906 was born about 1793 in Moore Co. N.C. and died about 1840.
5. 14 M - OWEN CARPENTER - 141907 was born March 21, 1795 in Georgia and died in June 1864 in Ashley Co. Arkansas. He is buried in Flat Creek Cemetery at Fountain Hill, Arkansas. My 2nd Great Grandfather.
6. 15 M - DENNIS CARPENTER -141908 was born March 1797 in Franklin Co. Georgia and died 1865 in Carroll Co., Mississippi.
7. 16 M - NATHAN CARPENTER - 141898 was born November 18, 1805 In Franklin Co. Georgia and died on December 23, 1892 in Carroll Co. Mississippi
8. 17 M - HENRY CARPENTER - 141909 was born 1806 in Franklin Co. Georgia
and died in Mississippi in 1870.
9. 18 F - MARY CARPENTER - 141910 was born 1809 in Franklin Co. Georgia and died 1873 in Carroll, Co., Mississippi.
10. 19 F - MALINDA (Lindy) CARPENTER - 141911 was born April 8, 1813 in Carroll Co. Mississippi and died March 26, 1887 in Carroll Co. Mississippi.
11. 20 M - GREEN CARPENTER - 141912 was born about 1815 in Carroll Co. Mississippi and died on.
12. 21 M - WILEY CARPENTER - 192767 was born October 30, 1813 in Carroll Co. Mississippi and died on April 18, 1859.
*Not sure about Wiley being a son of Owen.
NAME:
Some give Rachel as a middle name, but middle names for females was very rare in this time period.WEB PAGE:
Genealogy of Nathan Smith
Ancestors of Jerry A. Smith
https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~ja7smith/family/Genealogy_of_Nathan_Smith_2.html#Sarah1765
(See her father Nathan Smith for more details)7. Sarah Rachel Smith2 [Nathan Smith1] (b. abt. 1765 in NC / d. abt. 1836 in Carroll Co. MS) married Owen Carpenter (b. abt. 1767 in NC / d. abt. 1828 in Lawrence Co., MS), the son of Thomas Owen Carpenter and Catherine Shamberger, about Nov 1785 in Moore Co. NC.
More about Sarah Smith:
1790 Federal Census of Moore Co. NC as wife of Owen Carpenter.More about Owen Carpenter:
1790 Federal Census of Moore co. NC
1798 Petition to the Georgia Governor
1820 Federal Census of Lawrence Co. MS (1,1,0,0,1,2,0,0,0,1,0)
From The Georgia Genealogical Society Quarterly Vol II Ser 3 March 1967: 1804-Summary of a Report of Colo. William Wofford, made to Colo. Jonathan Meigs, agent to the Cherokee Indians, Southwest Point, regarding the number and condition of the Settlers living in and near the "Wofford Settlement", on the Frontier of Georgia and the Cherokee Nation of Indians - lying between the Currahee Mountain and the Headwaters of the Oconee River. Nathan Smith's Settlers - Original Settlers left outside of Colo. Hawkins line 1st February 1798: Owen Carpenter, James Minyard. Original Land Plat Book for Carroll Co. MS: (1) Township 19 Range 4 E Owen Carpenter, Sr. 40.14 acres 1835 (2) Owen Carpenter 40.78 acres 1834 (3) John Carpenter 40.78 acres 1836
From Ken Morrow: bulldog38@prodigy.net : There are a few court records in Moore Co. which shed some additional light, but I note that your Owen had a son Dennis and a daughter Catharine and many grandchildren named Adam (and Dennis and Catharine). The Owen of TN had none of these accepting a grandson named Adam, I believe. On the weight of this and other evidence, I believe that your Owen of Lawrence Co., MS is indeed Owen CARPENTER, Jr., son of Owen CARPENTER, Sr. and wife Catharine (SHEFFIELD?) of Moore Co., Owen CARPENTER, Sr. being the patriot militiaman who was killed on his doorstep along with an infant son then held in his arms, by a single musket ball fired by a marauding band of Tories. The lineage of the other Owen is far from proven and I believe the claim that he is Owen Jr. does a disservice to you and other descendants of Owen CARPENTER of Lawrence Co., MS who may rightfully have the honor of passing that fantastic legacy on to your grandchildren. I speak as a descendant of Temple CARPENTER, claimed to be a son of a Thomas CARPENTER by Bible record so it does not immediately appear that I descend from Owen, Sr.
Owen’ Father, Thomas Carpenter (b. abt. 1740 in NC / d. 1780 in NC) married Catherine Shamberger (b. abt. 1743 in NC / d. UNK) around 1759 in NC. They lived in Bear Creek, Moore Co., NC. Thomas is buried in Shamberger Cemetery, Montgomery Co., NC. Thomas and his youngest son died at the hands British soldiers by being shot during the American Revolution. For more details on the Carpenter family, see Surname: Carpenter.
Thomas and Catherine Carpenter had 7 children: Jonathan Carpenter (b. abt. 1760 in NC), Solomon Carpenter (b. abt. 1763 in NC), Dennis Carpenter (b. abt. 1765 in NC), Owen Carpenter (b. abt. 1767 in NC), and Temple Carpenter (b. 1769 in NC), Adam Carpenter (b. 2 Jul. 1771 in NC), and Infant Carpenter (b. & d. 1780 in NC).A. Children of Sarah Rachel Smith and Owen Carpenter:
+ 38. i. William Carpenter (b. abt. 1787)
+ 39. ii. John Carpenter (b. abt. 1787 / d. 12 Jun 1857)
+ 40. iii. Nancy Carpenter (b. abt. 1791)
+ 41. iv. Catherine Carpenter (b. abt. 1793)
+ 42. v. Owen Carpenter (b. 21 Mar 1795 in GA / d. 1864 in AR)
+ 43. vi. Nathan Carpenter (b. abt. 1797)
+ 44. vii. Dennis Carpenter (b. abt. 1798)
45. viii. Henry Carpenter (b. abt. 1806)
46. ix. Mary Carpenter (b. abt. 1809)
+ 47. x. Malinda Carpenter (b. abt. 1813)
+ 48. xi. Green Carpenter (b. abt. 1815)More about Henry Carpenter
Henry married a lady named Cynthia about 1828.More about Mary Carpenter
Mary married a Mr. Case.Other Notes for SARAH SMITH:
Owned 80 acres on Bahala Creek in Lawrence County MS according to 1835 tax rolls.GRAVE: sort of ...
Sarah Rachael Smith Carpenter
Birth: 1765 North Carolina, USA
Death: 1836 (aged 70–71) Carroll County, Mississippi, USA
Burial: Burial Details Unknown
Memorial #: 62186001
Bio:
Sarah Rachel Smith
Family Members
Spouse
Owen Carpenter 1765-1828
Children
John Jacob Carpenter 1789-1857
Maintained by: Joel Hill (50346229)
Originally Created by: John Andrew Meyer (46869698)
Added: 26 Nov 2010
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/62186001/sarah-rachael-carpenter
Citation: Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/62186001/sarah-rachael-carpenter : accessed 22 February 2022), memorial page for Sarah Rachael Smith Carpenter (1765–1836), Find a Grave Memorial ID 62186001, ; Maintained by Joel Hill (contributor 50346229) Burial Details Unknown.
WEB PAGE:
Genealogy of Nathan Smith
Ancestors of Jerry A. Smith
https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~ja7smith/family/Genealogy_of_Nathan_Smith_2.html#Sarah1765
(See grandfather Nathan Smith for more details)**. Nancy Carpenter3 [Sarah Rachel Smith2, Nathan Smith1] (b. abt. 1792 in Putnam, GA) married Mr. Cothran (b. abt. 1790).
A. Children of Nancy Carpenter and Mr. Cothran:
. i. Malinda Cothran (b. abt. 1816)
. ii. Owen Cothran (b. abt. 1818)
. iii. Dennis Cothran (b. abt. 1820)
. iv. Mary Cothran (b. abt. 1822)More about Malinda Cothran
Malinda married Hiram Scroggins (b. abt. 1815)More about Owen Cothran
Owen married Eliza Unk.More about Dennis Cothran
Dennis married Eliza Wallace (b. abt. 1820)More about Mary Cothran
Mary married Mr. Case (b. abt. 1820)
CENSUS: In 1805-1809 Mississippi Census, he was living in Yalobusha County, Mississippi, USA
COMMENT: By Ed Carpenter pleascyd@gmail.com (June 2021)
Mary was married twice:
Mary married Everett Smith on July26, 1821 in Lawrence County, Mississippi, USA. Everett was born about 1809. She later married Jesse Case in 1832 in Copiah, Mississippi, USA
WEB PAGE:
Genealogy of Nathan Smith
Ancestors of Jerry A. Smith
https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~ja7smith/family/Genealogy_of_Nathan_Smith_2.html#Sarah1765
(See grandfather Nathan Smith for more details)**. Malinda Carpenter3[Sarah Rachel Smith2, Nathan Smith1] (b. 13 Apr 1813 in Carroll Co. GA / d. 26 Mar 1887 in Lick Mt. Twp., Conway Co. AR) married Henson Scroggins (b. 12 Dec 1802 in Oglethorpe Co. GA / d. 16 Nov 1860 in Conway Co. AR) on 6 May 1835 in Jones Co. GA.
A. Children of Malinda Carpenter and Henson Scroggins:
+ . i. Wylie Jones Scroggins (b. 8 Apr 1833 in MS / d. 29 Mar 1895 in AR)
+ . ii. Sarah Jane Scroggins (b. 1835 in MS / d. 1863 in AR)
+ . iii. LeRoy “Lee” Scroggins (b. 1 Jan 1837 in MS / d. 25 Feb 1909 in AR)
. iv. Jesse Scroggins (b. 1838)
+ v. Mary Jane Scroggins (b. 1 Mar 1839 in AR / d. 5 Jun 1898 in AR)
+ . vi. Greene Scroggins (b. 17 Mar 1841 in AR / d. 5 Aug 1899 in AR)
+ . vii. Robert Henson Scroggins (b. 1843 in AR / d. 1928 in AR)
. viii. Dennis Scroggins (b. 1845)
+ . ix. Rhoda C. Scroggins (b. 1847 in AR / d. 20 Aug 1916 in OK)
+ . x. Larkin Scroggins (b. 1849 in AR / d. 1889 in AR)
+ . xi. Malissa Scroggins (b. 1 Aug 1852 in AR / d. 16 Mar 1919 in AR)
+ . xii. James Monroe Scroggins (b. 26 Aug 1856 in AR / d. 26 Apr 1933 in AR)More about Jesse Scroggins
Have found no further information of JesseMore about Dennis Scroggins
Have found no further information on Dennis
Parent link not proven. But one descendant Y-DNA test matches Group 24!
Owen Sr.'s speculative son John (the John in the records around 1780 and speculative father of the three orphans) would certainly have been born earlier than 1764 and almost certainly earlier than 1760 (earlier than brother Owen of Lawrence).
More generally, all we can reasonably surmise from the records (in my opinion anyway) is that Owen (b. ~1765) was of virtual necessity son of Owen Sr. (as opposed to most of the current research out there!), and that the three orphans were almost certainly his nephews and niece and grandchildren of Owen Sr. by another son of Owen Sr. who appears to have died. The name of that deceased son is not precisely known, although a John who appears in the records around 1780 might be the leading candidate, and indeed the name John is arguably consistent with how the orphans later named their own children. However, I would just leave a question mark in the place of that speculative son and father of the orphans absent the necessary proof, or possibly use John with a question mark ("John(?)"). KenJohn Carpenter, b c1760s, d prior to 19 May 1794 when his posited brother "Owen Carpenter came into court, and gave up Owen Carpenter, Jr., John Carpenter and Sarah Carpenter, orphan children, who were bound to him and the court ordered his bond to be discharged." Terry
GRAVE: sort of ... no burial location
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=62185840
Owen CarpenterBirth: 1765 <-------- speculated date.
Moore County
North Carolina, USA
Death: 1828 <--------- speculated date.
Lawrence County
Mississippi, USA
Owen Carpenter was born 1765 in North Carolina, and died Abt. 1828 in Lawrence Co., MS. He married Sarah Rachel Smith Abt. 1785 in Moore Co., NC.
Children of Owen Carpenter and Sarah Smith are:
i. William Carpenter, born Abt. 1787.
ii. John Carpenter, born Abt. 1789.
iii.Nancy Carpenter, born Abt. 1790.
iv. Catharine Carpenter, born Abt. 1793.
v. Owen Carpenter, born Abt. 1795.
vi. Dennis Carpenter, born Abt. 1798. He married Elizabeth Wallace February 06, 1821 in Lawrence Co., MS.
vii. Nathan Carpenter, born Abt. 1797.
viii.Henry Carpenter, born Abt. 1806.
ix. Mary Carpenter, born Abt. 1809. She married Everett Smith July 26, 1821 in Lawrence Co., MS.
x. Malinda Carpenter, born Abt. 1813.
xi. Green Carpenter, born Abt. 1815.
Family links:
Parents:
Thomas Owen Carpenter (1740 - 1780) [NAME WRONG]
Catherine Shamberger Carpenter (1743 - ____) [WRONG]
Spouse:
Sarah Rachael Smith Carpenter
Children:
John Carpenter (1789 - 1857)*
Sibling:
Owen Carpenter (1765 - 1828)
Infant Carpenter (1780 - ____)*
*Calculated relationship
Burial:
Unknown
Created by: John Andrew Meyer
Record added: Nov 26, 2010
Find A Grave Memorial# 62185840
GRAVE: not really - but cited anyway
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=62186001
Sarah Rachael Smith Carpenter
Birth: unknown
Death: unknown
Sarah Rachel Smith
Family links:
Spouse:
Owen Carpenter (1765 - 1828)*
Children:
John Carpenter (1789 - 1857)*
*Calculated relationship
Burial:
Unknown
Created by: John Andrew Meyer
Record added: Nov 26, 2010
Find A Grave Memorial# 62186001
COMMENT: By Ed Carpenter pleascyd@gmail.com (June 2021)
6. M - DENNIS CARPENER -142311 (Owen) born about 1767 in Moore County, North Carolina and died about 1838 in maybe in Montgomery, Alabama. Dennis married Margaret Hahm. She was born 1768 in Edgefield District, South Carolina and died in 1850.
Dennis and Margaret had the following children:
25 F - SOPHRONIA CARPENTER - born about October 1800 and died about 1841.
26 F - CATHERINE KRUM CARPENTER - born about 1801 and died about 1839.
27 M - JOHN B. CARPENTER - born about 1805 in South Carolina and died about 1861 in Montgomery, Alabama.
28 F - MARGARET CARPENTER - born April 09, 1809/1810 and died March 01, 1886. Married James M. Newman on November 02, 1828, Montgomery, Alabama. He was born September 18, 1802 and died December 11, 1874. H
Notes for Margaret: Her Will probated March 16, 1886 in Montgomery, Alabama. Wills page 534. She is buried in Old Oakwood Cemetery, Montgomery, Alabama. Cause of death: Cancer of face.
Notes for James M. Newman: He is buried in Oakwood Cemetery, Alabama. Monument erected by great-grand niece, Nettie O’Brien.
29 F - SUSAN CARPENTER - born about 1811 and died. She married Jacob Harrison.
30 M - ALSTON H. CARPENTER - born about 1815 in Montgomery, Alabama and died May 26, 1840. He married Jane B. Newman on August 17, 1836 in Montgomery, Alabama. Notes: Cause of death of Alston: Found dead in road.
She married a Krum?
Her Will probated March 16, 1886 in Montgomery, Alabama. Wills page 534. She is buried in Old Oakwood Cemetery, Montgomery, Alabama. Cause of death: Cancer of face.
He is buried in Oakwood Cemetery, Alabama. Monument erected by great-grand niece, Nettie O’Brien.
She married Jacob Harrison.
Cause of death of Alston: Found dead in road.
COMMENT:
I do not believe there is really any doubt that Adam (b. 1771) was son of Owen Sr. such that he is definitely not related to Group 16. Unfortunately, I am not sure that there are today any male descendants of Adam and Dennis to test (definitely not of Dennis, if I remember correctly). Ken (2012)
NOTE: A Y-DNA test on a descendant does not match the genetic fingerprint of Group 24 represented by Owen Carpenter-141916. Sep 2015 JRCE-MAIL:
From: toddacarpenter@yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 7:46 PM
To: John R Carpenter
Subject: Todd Carpenter.pdf
Hi John,
See the attached which from my understanding is accurate. I have documents that also go further than Adam Carpenter but this may be a good start. Also, if there is any data you are missing from my line such as cousins and nieces/nephews, please let me know.
Best, ToddDescendants submitted by: Todd A. Carpenter toddacarpenter@yahoo.com
in June 2015.LAND: 1803 - image (Adam Carpenter - 1644)
Name: Adam Carpenter
Issue Date: 20 Aug 1803
Residence Place: Moore, North Carolina, USA
Certificate Number Range: 1606-1793a
Description: Moore 1606-1793a
Source Information
Ancestry.com. North Carolina, Land Grant Files, 1693-1960 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
Original data: North Carolina Land Grants. Microfilm publication, 770 rolls. North Carolina State Archives, Raleigh, North Carolina.
Description
This collection consists of North Carolina land grant files, including warrants, surveys, and other documents.CENSUS: 1810 US Census
Name: Adam Carpenter
Event Place: Not Stated, Edgefield, South Carolina
Page Number: 112
Line Number: 40
Affiliate Publication Number: M252
Affiliate Film Number: 62
GS Film number: 0181421
Digital Folder Number: 004433170
Image Number: 00091
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1810," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH23-DX3 : accessed 6 June 2015), Adam Carpenter, Not Stated, Edgefield, South Carolina; citing p. 112, NARA microfilm publication M252 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 62; FHL microfilm 181,421.CENSUS: 1820 US Census
Name: Adam Carpenter
Event Place: Not Stated, Edgefield, South Carolina
Page Number:
Affiliate Publication Number: M33
Affiliate Film Number: 118
GS Film number: 0162021
Digital Folder Number: 004433159
Image Number: 00158
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1820," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHL7-MNN : accessed 6 June 2015), Adam Carpenter, Not Stated, Edgefield, South Carolina; citing p. , NARA microfilm publication M33, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 118; FHL microfilm 162,021.CENSUS: 1830 US Census
Name: Adam Carpenter
Event Place: Not Stated, Edgefield, South Carolina
Page Number: 190
Affiliate Publication Number: M19
Affiliate Film Number: 172
GS Film number: 0022506
Digital Folder Number: 004410696
Image Number: 00381
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1830," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHP2-FVQ : accessed 6 June 2015), Adam Carpenter, Not Stated, Edgefield, South Carolina; citing p. 190, NARA microfilm publication M19, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 172; FHL microfilm 22,506.CENSUS: 1840 US Census
CENSUS: 1850 US Census
Name: Adam Carpenter
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1850
Event Place: Edgefield county, part of, Edgefield, South Carolina, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 80
Race: White
Race (Original):
Birth Year (Estimated): 1770
Birthplace: North Carolina
Household ID: 2113
House Number: 2106
Line Number: 33
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: M432
Affiliate Film Number: 852
GS Film Number: 444815
Digital Folder Number: 004205405
Image Number: 00282
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Adam Carpenter M 80 North Carolina
Molly Carpenter F 72 North Carolina
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1850," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M8QF-FBQ : accessed 6 June 2015), Adam Carpenter, Edgefield county, part of, Edgefield, South Carolina, United States; citing family 2113, NARA microfilm publication M432 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).COMMENT: By Ed Carpenter pleascyd@gmail.com (June 2021)
Adam married MATILDA Mollie/Milly SHEFFIELD -177527 in 1799. She was born 1776 in North Carolina and died 1881 in Edgefield, South Carolina. Adam and Milly had the following children:31 M - JOHN HENRY CARPENTER - 177526 was born about 1801/1802 and died on April 02, 1870.
32 M - DENNIS CARPENTER. - 198606 was born about 1812 and died October 1877.
33 M - WILLIAM CARPENTER - born 1807 and died 1860.
34 M - ISHAM CARPENTER -born about 1809 and died about 1840.
Notes for Adam: Probate date October 07, 1851. Back in 2012 Ken Carpenter felt he needed to have a descendant of Adam to do a YDNA test to place him in Group 24. Fortunately, I found a Lawrence Jennings Carpenter through Kay deBianca and encouraged him to get tested. He did and he proved to be a descendant of Adam.