Number 1906 in the Carpenter Memorial. Family is number 622. See page insert. Resided in Brattleboro,,VT.
Page insert from Mrs. N. M. P. Akeley of 224 Canal street, Brattleboro, VT. No date given. This data is copied from "Old Burial Plot, near town line of Brattleboro via Marlboro.
Abel Carpenter d. 8 Aug. 1862 Age 95 Y.
Lucy Carpenter d. 21 Feb 1858 Age 58. Wife of Abel Carpenter.
(NOTE: Lucy died age 85 not 58!!!)
Mila Carpenter dau. of Abel & Lucy d. 26 Sept. 1840.
Lucy Carpenter dau. of Abel & Lucy d. 22 Aug 1834 age 23.
Palmer Carpenter d. Mar. 13, 1866 Age 59.Y.
Lois Carpenter d. 12 Mar. 1847 age 38. Wife of Cromwell Carpenter.
Patty Carpenter dau. of Abel & Lucy d. 20 Dec. 1833 Age 33.
She was the sister of Deborah Martin, the wife of Samuel.
Polly had six or seven children.
Resided near Northampton, MA.
NOTE: A descendant Y-DNA tested and did not match the Group 3 profile. They matched Group 98.
Parent Link is suspect!FSID# KZM4-N2G
BOOK: Palmer Families in America - Vol. 1
v. 1. Lt. Wm. Palmer of Yarmouth, Mass. and his descendants of Greenwich, Conn.
Palmers in America - page 178/179.
Author: Palmer, (Mrs.) Horace Wilbur,
Date of Publication: 1966 by Neshanic Print. Co. in Neshanic, N.J .
Subjects: Palmer family.
Dewey Decimal Class 929.2/0973
Library of Congress CS71.P175 1966
ISBN:
NOTE: 3 vols in this series.
https://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=12204
SEE ALSO:
https://openlibrary.org/books/OL5531142M/Palmer_families_in_America
FSFT# KC79-L8X
PARENTS:
Samuel Palmer (30 Nov 1750 Nine Partners, NY –25 Dec 1842 Middleburg, Scmmer., NY) • K4LP-B26
Sarah ____ (4 Nov 1758 of Dtchss., Scher., NY – Aug 1831 Middleburgh, Schoharie, NY • LDZK-DP2
Samuel Palmer is cited in the SAR application.
Name: Samuel Palmer
Birth Date: 30 Nov 1750
Birth Place: Nine Partners, New York
Death Date: 25 Dec 1842
Death Place: Middleburg, New York
SAR Membership: 89042
Role: Ancestor
Application Date: 9 Nov 1962
Spouse: Sarah Palmer
Children: Samuel Palmer
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data: Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970. Louisville, Kentucky: National Society of the Sons of the American Revolution. Microfilm, 508 rolls.
SEE ALSO:
New York, Tax Assessment Rolls of Real and Personal Estates, 1799-1804
Samuel Palmer
Palmer families in America
New York, Military Equipment Claims, War of 1812
Samuel Palmer
U.S., Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Application Files, 1800-1900
Samuel Palmer
New York, Tax Assessment Rolls of Real and Personal Estates, 1799-1804
Samuel Palmer
1830 United States Federal Census
Samuel Palmer
FSFT# MPWQ-1JL
GRAVE: images
Thomas Carpenter
Birth: 1756 Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA
Death: 29 Oct 1822 (aged 65–66) Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA
Burial: Village Cemetery, Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA
Memorial #: 14632711
Gravesite Details Aged 66 years.
Family Members
Spouse
Chloe Bliss Carpenter 1765-1813
Children
Zenas Bliss Carpenter 1802-1878
Created by: Karen (46487446)
Added: 17 Jun 2006
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/14632711
Citation: Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 12 November 2019), memorial page for Thomas Carpenter (1756–29 Oct 1822), Find A Grave Memorial no. 14632711, citing Village Cemetery, Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA ; Maintained by Karen (contributor 46487446) .
GRAVE: image
Chloe Bliss Carpenter
Birth: 4 Mar 1765 Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA
Death: 27 Jan 1813 (aged 47) Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA
Burial: Village Cemetery, Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA
Memorial #: 14633010
Gravesite Details Aged 48 years. She was the wife of Thomas Carpenter.
Family Members
Parents
Jonathan Bliss 1739-1800
Lydia Wheeler Bliss 1737-1803
Spouse
Thomas Carpenter 1756-1822
Siblings
James Bliss 1762-1842
Jonathan Bliss 1767-1799
Asahel Bliss 1771-1855
Shubael Bliss 1773-1840
Lydia Bliss Newman 1776-1822
Nancy Bliss 1784-1822
Children
Zenas Bliss Carpenter 1802-1878
Created by: Karen (46487446)
Added: 17 Jun 2006
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/14633010/chloe-carpenter
Citation: Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 12 November 2019), memorial page for Chloe Bliss Carpenter (4 Mar 1765–27 Jan 1813), Find A Grave Memorial no. 14633010, citing Village Cemetery, Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA ; Maintained by Karen (contributor 46487446) .
Number 1880 on page 256 in the Carpenter Memorial.
CONFLICT:
See CONFLICT section below for the section on a child (likely NPE event) of a first marriage that is genetically part of Group 18 of the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project and not Group 3.Number 1994 in the Carpenter Memorial. Page 264.
Family on page 446 to 450 (# 645). A farmer.
1994. I. JOHN was b. April 6, 1736 ; m. 1st, Cynthia Brown, Jan. 11, 1 781 ; she
was b. Jan. 20, 17 58, and d. Jan. 10, 1825, aged 67 years ; m. 2d,
Aznbah Perham, Nov. 26, 1825 ; she d. Aug. 2o, 1842, aged 88 years ; he d.
Feb. 1, 1843, aged 87 years. Residence, Brattleboro, Vt. A farmer.The following is an abstract of a letter from Mrs. Jason Clark, granddaughter o hn Carpenter: "My mother, Lucy Carpenter. was the youngest daughter of my grandfather, John Carpenter, the first settler on the old family homestead in Brattleboro. The old gentleman has often shown me where he cut the first tree for the to house, it being a vast wilderness when he came here. He was one of the first settlers of Brattleboro. My parents reside on the old homestead. We are now living in a house built by Cyril Carpenter. son of Edward who was a brother of Col. Benjamin Carpenter: this house stands only a short distance from where the two graves of Ed-ward and Col. Benjamin Carpenter are, which can be plainly seen from the window."
John Carpenter, Jr.. of Rehoboth, enlisted as private in Capt. Isaac Hodges' company, Colonel Francis regiment, from August to November. 1776; John Carpenter. Jr., enlisted again the same year in Captain Hicks' company, Colonel Carpenters regiment, in the Rhode Island alarm, Dec. 8, 1776 ; served 16 days ; he served in Capt. John Paine's company at Winter Hill, two months, April 1, 1776; he also enlisted Aug. 27, 17.77, in the Continental army for three years; joined Captain Hunt's company. Colonel Jackson s regiment: was 21 years old, five feet eight inches high ; served at Guelph. Penn.. April 30,1778 at Providence, R. I. Sept. 8. 1778; Pawtuxet, R. I., Jan. 7, 1779; at Providence. from July 9, to Dec. 31, 1779.PROBATE: notice - no date given - from Find A Grave
SATE Of VERMONT.
Probate District of Marlboro, ss.
In Probate Court, Feb. 24th, 1843.
AN instrument purporting to be the last Will and testament of John Carpenter, late of Brattleboro in said district, deceased, was presented for probate by John Carpenter, Jr., the executor therein named; Whereupon, it is ordered that hearing be had in the premises before said Court, at a session timer & to be helden at the Inn of Henry Smith in Brattleboro, in said district, on the last Thursday of April next. And for the purpose of notifying all persons interested therein, of the time and place of hearing, that they may appear and contest the Probate thereof (if they see cause) the said named executor is directed to publish a copy of the record of this order three weeks successively in the Vermont Phoenix, printed at Brattlelboro in said district previous to said time of hearing.
A true Copy from the Record. Attest, LEMUEL WHITNEY, Reg’r.CENSUS: 1790 US Census
1790 United States Federal Census
Name: John Carpenter
Home in 1790 (City, County, State): Brattleboro, Windham, Vermont
Free White Persons - Males - Under 16: 2 --------> b. abt 1776/1790
Free White Persons - Males - 16 and over: 1 -------> b. abt 1750/1755? (5 children)
Free White Persons - Females: 4
Number of Household Members: 7
Source Citation: Year: 1790; Census Place: Brattleboro, Windham, Vermont; Series: M637; Roll: 12; Page: 106; Image: 106; Family History Library Film: 0568152.CENSUS: 1800 US Census
1800 United States Federal Census
Name: John Carpenter
Home in 1800 (City, County, State): Brattleboro, Windham, Vermont
Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 1 ----------> b. 1789/1800
Free White Persons - Males -10 thru 15: 1 ----------> b. 1785/1790
Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over: 1 ----------> b. 1755 or less
Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15: 3
Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over: 1
Number of Household Members Under 16: 6
Number of Household Members Over 25: 2
Number of Household Members: 8
Source Citation: Year: 1800; Census Place: Brattleboro, Windham, Vermont; Roll: 52; Page: 503; Image: 490; Family History Library Film: 218689.CENSUS: 1810 US Census
No Johns in Windham listed, but ... two lines below Jonah is a John Carpenter!!!
The page is ripped but it clearly reads as John. Near the top of the page is David Carpenter, then Benajah, then Jonah followed by Joh then finally a Stephen. See image: RIN 20567 John Carpenter 1810.jpg
name: The following is for John Carpenter that is not listed in the AI or FS indexes.
1810 United States Federal Census
1 - 1 - 1 1 - - 1 50 140 - If I did this right it would be like:
Name: John Carpenter
Home in 1810 (City, County, State): Brattleboro, Windham, Vermont
Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 1 ----------> b. 1800/1810
Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 15:
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25: 1 ----------> b. 1785/1794
Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44 :
Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over : 1 ----------> b. 1765 or less
Bind here 50 140
Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25:
Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44:
Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over : 1
Number of Household Members Under 16:
Number of Household Members Over 25:
Number of Household Members:
Source Citation: Year: 1810; Census Place: Brattleboro, Windham, Vermont; Roll: 65; Page: 239; Image: 0218669; Family History Library Film: 00166.
NOTE: 14 Carpenters listed as head of house in Windham, VT in the 1810 census.CENSUS: 1820 US Census
1820 United States Federal Census
Name: John Carpenter Jr. <----------------
Home in 1820 (City, County, State): Brattleboro, Windham, Vermont
Enumeration Date: August 7, 1820
Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44: 1 ----------> b. 1776/1794
Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over: 1 ----------> b. 1775 or earlier
Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over : 1
Number of Persons - Engaged in Agriculture: 3
Free White Persons - Under 16: 1
Free White Persons - Over 25: 3
Total Free White Persons: 5
Total All Persons - White, Slaves, Colored, Other: 5
Source Citation: 1820 U S Census; Census Place: Brattleboro, Windham, Vermont; Page: 108; NARA Roll: M33_128; Image: 71.CENSUS: 1830 US Census - nothing matching - closest match is ...
1830 United States Federal Census
Name: John Carpenter Junior <-----------
Home in 1830 (City, County, State): Guilford, Windham, Vermont
Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 14: 1 ----------> b. 1816/1820
Free White Persons - Males - 30 thru 39: 1 ----------> b. 1791/1800
Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 30 thru 39: 1
Free White Persons - Under 20: 2
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 2
Total Free White Persons: 4
Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored): 4
Source Citation: 1830 US Census; Census Place: Guilford, Windham, Vermont; Page: 27; NARA Series: M19; Roll Number: 186; Family History Film: 0027452.PENSION: 1819 - image
Name: John Carpenter <--- Listed as a Private
Year Range: 1818-1832
Pension Office Place: Vermont, USA
Source Citation
The National Archives; Washington, D.C.; Ledgers of Payments, 1818-1872, to U.S. Pensioners Under Acts of 1818 Through 1858 From Records of the Office of the Third Auditor of the Treasury; Record Group Title: Records of the Accounting Officers of the Department of the Treasury; Record Group Number: 217; Series Number: T718; Roll Number: 1
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Revolutionary War Pensioners, 1801-1815, 1818-1872 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2007.
Original data:
Ledgers of Payments, 1818-1872, to U.S. Pensioners Under Acts of 1818 Through 1858 From Records of the Office of the Third Auditor of the Treasury, 1818-1872. NARA microform publication T718. 23 rolls. Records of the Accounting Officers of the Department of the Treasury, 1775-1978, Record Group 217. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
Pension Payment Roll of Veterans of the Revolutionary War and the Regular Army and Navy, 3/1801 - 9/1815. NARA microform publication M1786. 1 Roll. NAI: 2600769. Records of the Department of Veterans Affairs, 1773–2007, Record Group 15. The National Archives at Washington, D.C.
NOTE: per image
Per Act March 18, 1818 enrolled June 15, 1819 with application April 3, 1819. DROPPED from roll under Act May 1, 1820.
On same page is an ELijah Carpenter - private
SEE ALSO: CENSUS: 1835 Vermont Census - Pensioner List.CENSUS: 1835 Vermont Census - Pensioner List - image
Name: John Carpenter
Rank: Private
Age: 78
Birth Year: abt 1753
Pension Enrollment Date: 4 Mar 1831
Residence Place: Windham, Vermont, USA
Service Description: Mass. cont'l line <--------------- This supports he was once of MA! See JC-8494.
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., The Pension Roll of 1835 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
Original data:
United States Senate.The Pension Roll of 1835.4 vols. 1968 Reprint, with index. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 1992.
NOTE: per image - Entered TWICE!
Per Act March 18, 1818 enrolled June 15, 1819 with application April 3, 1819. DROPPED from roll under Act May 1, 1820. Pensioned again under Act June 7, 1832.
Second entry (second entry has a "Do" - aka ditto marker - for name. has Dec. 20, 1819 with application date of April 3, 1819.
COMPARE TO:
CENSUS: 1835 Vermont Census - Pensioner List - image - See 3) below
Name: John Carpenter
Rank: Private
Age: 78
Birth Year: abt 1753
Pension Enrollment Date: 4 Mar 1831
Residence Place: Orange, Vermont, USA <------------ Orange County
Service Description: Conn. militia <-----------------------
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., The Pension Roll of 1835 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
Original data:
United States Senate.The Pension Roll of 1835.4 vols. 1968 Reprint, with index. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 1992.
NOTE: Per image - this is the second Carpenter on the page.
Enrolled Aug 27, 1833 per application March 4, 1831.
The FIRST Carpenter on the page is ...
Jonathan Carpenter Pri&corp. Mass Militia Sept. 21, 1833 per March 4, 1831. <--- See 4) below
SEE ALSO: image <------ regard 3) below
Name: John Carpenter
Pension Year: 1833
Application State: Vermont
Archive Publication Number: M804
Archive Roll Number: 475
Total Pages in Packet: 25 <--------------------
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Application Files, 1800-1900 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
Original data: Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Application Files (NARA microfilm publication M804, 2,670 rolls). Records of the Department of Veterans Affairs, Record Group 15. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
NOTE: See images starting at:
https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/1995/images/MIUSA1775D_135041-00522?usePUB=true&_phsrc=QSF3024&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=37156
Per image (522 of 825) - John Carpenter of Orange County, VT who was a private in the company of Cpatin Mallbridge of the Regiment commanded by Col. Wolcott in the Conn.t. Troops for 8 months & 21 days. To receive 27 dollars and 98 cents to commense on the 4 th Day of March 1831. Certificate issued 28 August 1833.
Application starts on image 524 of 825. Then testimonies given about John Carpenter.CENSUS: 1840 Vermont Census - Pensioner List
Name: John Carpenter
State: VT
County: Windham County
Township: Age 84 Brattleboro ----------> b. abt 1756
Year: 1840
Page: 067
Database: VT 1840 Pensioners List
Source Information:
Jackson, Ronald V., Accelerated Indexing Systems, comp.. Vermont Census, 1790-1860 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 1999.
Original data: Compiled and digitized by Mr. Jackson and AIS from microfilmed schedules of the U.S. Federal Decennial Census, territorial/state censuses, and/or census substitutes.
SEE ALSO:
Census of Pensioners - Vemont
Page 67 (page 19 of 63)
John Carpenter age 84 - residing with Head of House Jotham Warren.
https://www2.census.gov/library/publications/decennial/1840/1840v4/1840d-03.pdfPENSION: 1843 - image
Name: John Carpenter
Year Range: 1831-1848
Pension Office Place: Windsor, Vermont, USA
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Source Citation
The National Archives; Washington, D.C.; Ledgers of Payments, 1818-1872, to U.S. Pensioners Under Acts of 1818 Through 1858 From Records of the Office of the Third Auditor of the Treasury; Record Group Title: Records of the Accounting Officers of the Department of the Treasury; Record Group Number: 217; Series Number: T718; Roll Number: 6
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Revolutionary War Pensioners, 1801-1815, 1818-1872 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2007.
Original data:
Ledgers of Payments, 1818-1872, to U.S. Pensioners Under Acts of 1818 Through 1858 From Records of the Office of the Third Auditor of the Treasury, 1818-1872. NARA microform publication T718. 23 rolls. Records of the Accounting Officers of the Department of the Treasury, 1775-1978, Record Group 217. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
Pension Payment Roll of Veterans of the Revolutionary War and the Regular Army and Navy, 3/1801 - 9/1815. NARA microform publication M1786. 1 Roll. NAI: 2600769. Records of the Department of Veterans Affairs, 1773–2007, Record Group 15. The National Archives at Washington, D.C.
NOTE: per image
Died 1st Feb 1843. <--------- This is consistent with the death of John Carpenter-8494.NOTE:
http://www.usgennet.org/usa/topic/colonial/census/1840/1840vt_a.html
SOURCE: 1840 Census of Pensioners Revolutionary or Military Services;
With the names, ages, and places of residence
Returned by the marshalls of the several judicial districts; under
The Act for Taking the Sixth Census
Typed and Reformatted By: Kathy Leigh, March 11, 2001
VERMONT
A - D First Name Last Name Age Head of Household City County Possible Name
Abel Carpenter 86 Abigail Willard Lyndon Caledonia
Olive Carpenter 83 George Carpenter Randolph Orange
Elias Carpenter 78 Elias Carpenter Strafford Orange
John Carpenter 84 Jotham Warren Brattleboro Windham ***COMPARE - Pension cites - with close data
1)
John Carpenter (birth and death dates unknown); Soldier in a Massachusetts regiment of the Continental Line; pension application(22157) submitted by himself.
2)
John Carpenter, Jr (RIN 8494) (born 6 Apr 1756, died 1 Feb 1843; <---------- Private in a Massachusetts unit: married (1st) to Cynthia Brown (2nd) to Azubah Perham
3)
John Carpenter (birth and death dates unknown); Soldier in a <---- CT Unit Connecticut unit; pension application(15371) submitted by himself.
4)
Jonathan Carpenter, Jr (RIN 13976)(born 19 June 1757, died 10 Mar 1837): Corporal in a Massachusetts unit; married to Olive Sessions; pension application (18873) submitted by his widow.
CENSUS: 1840 US Census - Pensioner List
Name: John Carpenter
Residence Age: 84
Birth Date: abt 1756
Residence Date: 1840
Residence Place: Brattleboro, Windham County, Vermont, USA
Page Number: 067
Database: Vt 1840 Pensioners List
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Vermont, U.S., Compiled Census and Census Substitutes Index, 1778-1840 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 1999.
Original data: Jackson, Ronald V., Accelerated Indexing Systems, comp.. Vermont Census, 1778-1840. Compiled and digitized by Mr. Jackson and AIS from microfilmed schedules of the U.S. Federal Decennial Census, territorial/state censuses, and/or census substitutes.DEATH: image
Name: John Carpenter
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1755
Death Date: 1 Feb 1843
Death Place: Brattleboro, Vermont, USA
Death Age: 88
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Vermont, U.S., Vital Records, 1720-1908 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2013.
Original data: State of Vermont. Vermont Vital Records through 1870. New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, Massachusetts.
State of Vermont. Vermont Vital Records, 1871–1908. New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, Massachusetts.GRAVE: image plus image of Probate notice
John French Carpenter <-------- NO evidence of middle name of French or middle intial F.
Birth: 6 Apr 1756 Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA
Death: 1 Feb 1843 (aged 86)
Burial: West Brattleboro Cemetery, West Brattleboro, Windham County, Vermont, USA
Memorial #: 152569333
Bio: age 88
Family Members
Parents
John Carpenter 1733-1821
Bethia French Carpenter 1731-1756
Spouses
Cynthia Brown Carpenter 1758-1825
Azuba Perham Carpenter Unknown-1842
Siblings
David Carpenter 1757-1818
Joanna Carpenter Allyn 1759-1852
Bethiah Carpenter Wheaton 1761-1847
Sarah Carpenter Lindsey 1762-1786
Cyrus Carpenter 1802-1863
Children
Bethiah Carpenter Scott 1784-1852
Sarah Carpenter Alexander 1785-1860
Elijah Woodward Carpenter 1788-1855
Cynthia Carpenter Briggs 1791-1818
John Carpenter 1793-1880
Lucy Carpenter Warren 1795-1823
Created by: msimonds (47871858)
Added: 20 Sep 2015
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/152569333/john-french-carpenter
Citation: Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/152569333/john-french-carpenter: accessed 17 September 2022), memorial page for John French Carpenter (6 Apr 1756–1 Feb 1843), Find a Grave Memorial ID 152569333, citing West Brattleboro Cemetery, West Brattleboro, Windham County, Vermont, USA; Maintained by msimonds (contributor 47871858) .
CONFLICT: Y-DNA mismatch
Descendants of calimed son John Carpenter Jr.-146674 (of an unknown marriage) who have Y-DNA tested are part of Group 18 of the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project.
NOTE: Based on the information gathered, the John Carpenter-146673 is consistent with the John Carpenter-8494
( b. 6 APR 1756 Rehobotoh, Bristol, MA - d. 1 FEB 1843 • Brattleboro, Windham, VT ) son of John Carpenter-8486 and Bethiah French. JC-8494 is a Carpenter line associated with Group 3 of the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project.
NOTE:
The early census records indicate a John Carpenter, Jr. b. abt 1776 in Brattleboro where and when John C.-8494 was present. I identify this John C.Jr.-146674 as the son of John C-146673.
NOTE:
See the problem? Two John C.s in one family or John C.-8494 had another marriage or relationship abt 1776 at age 20 before his first documented marriage of 11 Jan 1781. Or maybe ...? This is likely a sign of a NPE aka a non-paternal or non-paternity event.
NOTE:
NPEs can happen due to a formal or informal adoption of DNA into a genealogical line. Historically, a young widow with a young son would likely remarry. And the young son who bonds with his step-father often took his step-father's surname.
The farther back in time the NPE is, the harder it is to identify.
An NPE could explain how the "claimed" grandson John Carpenter II-20567 has descendants that are part of Group 18 and not part of Group 3 of the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project.
NOTE:
Cynthia Brown likely married and had a young son before her first husband died? Then she married Carpenter.
If so, we have an Non-Paternal Event or Non-Paterinty Event (NPE) where the young male child bonded with his step-father and assumed the surname Carpenter. Need more research on this.
Descendants of John Carpenter Jr.-146674 match genetically with Group 18 and not Group 3.GRAVE: image
Cynthia Brown Carpenter
Birth: 20 Jan 1758 Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA
Death: 10 Jan 1825 (aged 66) Windham County, Vermont, USA
Burial: West Brattleboro Cemetery, West Brattleboro, Windham County, Vermont, USA
Memorial #: 232308178
Bio: Died age 67Daughter of Amos Brown and Rebecca Wilmarth
1st wife of John Carpenter
NOTE: The grave of her husband, John, was posted on findagrave in 2015. Always wondered where Cynthia was buried. Sept 21, 2021 I visited John's grave and she was buried in the same row. Not sure why she was not recorded in 2015.
Inscription:
Wife of John Carpenter
Age 67 years
Family Members
Spouse
John French Carpenter 1756-1843
Children
Bethiah Carpenter Scott 1784-1852
Sarah Carpenter Alexander 1785-1860
Elijah Woodward Carpenter 1788-1855
Cynthia Carpenter Briggs 1791-1818
John Carpenter 1793-1880
Lucy Carpenter Warren 1795-1823
Created by: Sarah Pullen (48560543)
Added: 21 Sep 2021
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/232308178/cynthia-carpenter
Citation: Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/232308178/cynthia-carpenter: accessed 17 September 2022), memorial page for Cynthia Brown Carpenter (20 Jan 1758–10 Jan 1825), Find a Grave Memorial ID 232308178, citing West Brattleboro Cemetery, West Brattleboro, Windham County, Vermont, USA; Maintained by Sarah Pullen (contributor 48560543) .
BIRTH: Could she have been born in 1754?
GRAVE: image
Azuba Perham Carpenter
Birth: unknown
Death: 20 Aug 1842
Burial: West Brattleboro Cemetery, West Brattleboro, Windham County, Vermont, USA
Memorial #: 152569387
Bio:
age 89
Family Members
Spouse
John French Carpenter 1756-1843
Created by: msimonds (47871858)
Added: 20 Sep 2015
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/152569387/azuba-carpenter
Citation: Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/152569387/azuba-carpenter: accessed 17 September 2022), memorial page for Azuba Perham Carpenter (unknown–20 Aug 1842), Find a Grave Memorial ID 152569387, citing West Brattleboro Cemetery, West Brattleboro, Windham County, Vermont, USA; Maintained by msimonds (contributor 47871858) .
Number 1995 in the Carpenter Memorial. Page 264.
Family on page 450 (# 646). A farmer.1995. II. DAVID was b. Dec. 8, 17 J7 ; m. Elizahoth Sessions, May 3o, 1 787 ; he d. (646) Dec. 24, 181 7. Residence, Randolph, Vt. A farmer.
We find his name in Captain Stone's company, in 1777. in Colonel Latimer's regiment; his services commenced Aug. 23. and lie was discharged Nov. 9; he enlisted for a short term in 1779, in the 1st regiment, July 1; discharged Dec. 9; he also enlisted as private in Nathaniel Carpenter's company Colonel Carpenter's regiment in the Rhode Island alarm, July 2c, 1777 ; served one month and Avefi days ; again in Captain Hicks' company, in Colonel Daggett s regiment in the Rhode Island alarm, Jan. 2,1778; saved three months ; roll sworn at Rehoboth; again as corporal in Captain Bullock's company, Colonel Carpenter's regiment, in the Rhode Island alarm, July 27, 1778; served one month and 16 days.
David and Jonathan Carpenter. No. 1543. went to Pomfret, Vt.,May 13, 178o, and bought 100 acres of land, made a clearing and built a house; they had traveled 416 miles in 21 days ; they after-wards moved to Randolph. They were fourth cousins and probably married sisters.
Number 1996 in the Carpenter Memorial. Page 264.
Number 1997 in the Carpenter Memorial. Page 264.
1997. BETHIA was b. Jan. 26, 1761; m. Col. Joseph Wheaton, of Nathaniel4, James3, John2, Robert1, Nov. 23, 1779 ; she d. April 1, 1847, in her 87th year. Residence, Providence, R. I. A farmer.
They had a son Joseph Carpenter Wheaton, b. March 28, 1783, in Rehoboth, who m. Catherine Metcalf Sabin,
Number 1999 in the Carpenter Memorial. Page 265.
Parentage not confirmed?