Descendants of the William Carpenters of the Bevis (1638)
Carpenter Cousins Encyclopedia of Carpenters - 2024 Update
Notes
3545.
Abiah Carpenter
Number 1862 on page 254 in the Carpenter Memorial.
1 MILI Abiah served in the Revolution as private in Captain Hick's
company, Colonel Daggett's regiment, Jan. 13, 1778; served two
months, 19 days in the ,RI alarm, the roll sworn at
Rehoboth. Abiah Carpenter of Rehoboth, private in Captain
Bullard's company, in Col. Thomas Carpenter's regiment, July 27,
1778, served one month, 16 days, in the ,RI alarm.
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George W. Peck
Resided in Hempstead.
Marshal Waldron
Resided in Bristol, RI
8383.
Luther Nelson Carpenter
BIRTH: image
Name: Luther Nelson Carpenter
Event Type: Birth
Birth Date: 12 Jun 1807
Birth Place: Rehoboth, Massachusetts
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Massachusetts, Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data: Town and City Clerks of Massachusetts. Massachusetts Vital and Town Records. Provo, UT: Holbrook Research Institute (Jay and Delene Holbrook).
SEE ALSO:
Name: Luther Nelson Carpenter
Birth Date: 12 Jun 1807
Birth Place: Rehoboth, Massachusetts, USA
Relative: chi:Abiah Carpenter; chi:Hopestill Carpenter
Source: Vital Record of Rehoboth, 1642-1896. Marriages, Intentions, Births, Deaths, with Supplement containing the Record of 1896, Colonial Returns, Lists of the Early Settlers, Purchasers, Freemen, Inhabitants, the Soldiers serving in Philip's War and the Revolution.
Births
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Rehoboth, Massachusetts, Vital Records, 1642-1896 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2000.
Original data: Arnold, James N. Vital Record of Rehoboth, 1642-1896. Providence, RI, USA: Narragansett Historical Publishing, 1897.
PROBATE: images
Name: Luther N Carpenter
Probate Date: 1823
Probate Place: Bristol, Massachusetts, USA
Inferred Death Year: Abt 1823
Inferred Death Place: Massachusetts, USA
Item Description: Probate Records, Carpenter, Jedediah - Carpenter, Samuel S.
Table of Contents 3 images
Cover Page 1
Account Papers 2–3
Source Citation
Bristol County (Mass.) Probate Records 1690-1881; Author: Bristol County (Massachusetts). Register of Probate; Probate Place: Bristol, Massachusetts
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Massachusetts, Wills and Probate Records, 1635-1991 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015.
Original data: Massachusetts County, District and Probate Courts.
3548.
Abel Carpenter
Number 1864 on page 254 in the Carpenter Memorial.
Family on page 426 (#605). Residence Lyndon, VT. He moved there in 1796 and
went into a school house to live until he could build a house of his own.
He was a soldier in the Revolutionary War - was engaged in the battle of
Monmouth, and Redbanks, and also in a skirmish at Harlem Heights, where he was
wounded by a musket ball which he received in his side and carried it with him
to his grave.
It was probably this Abel Carpenter who was Ensign in the 2nd RI
regiment, Israel Angel, colonel, and was promoted in the same company to 2nd
Lieutenant, services rendered in 1777 and 1778.
He reside in Lyndon at the time of his death. he was one of the select men of
the town for 20 years, and filled various other offices in town with honor to
himself and credit to the town. He never was confined to his bed a day in his
life by illness until his last sickness, 10 days before he died.
The family monument to Abel Carpenter Esq., one of the Revolutionary soldiers,
was the first monument errected in the cemetery at Lyndon, VT.
An Abel Carpenter served in the Revolutionary war as private in Captain Hicks
company, Col. Thomas Carpenter's regiment, Aug. 2, 1780; served 6 days; marched
to Tiverton on the RI alarm. The compiler of the Carpenter Memorial
is not sure if this last Abel Carpenter is the same as this Abel Carpenter.
http://www.usgennet.org/usa/topic/colonial/census/1840/1840vt_a.html
SOURCE: 1840 Census of Pensioners Revolutionary or Military Services;
With the names, ages, and places of residence
Returned by the marshalls of the several judicial districts; under
The Act for Taking the Sixth Census
Typed and Reformatted By: Kathy Leigh, March 11, 2001
VERMONT
A - D First Name Last Name Age Head of Household City County Possible Name
Abel Carpenter 86 Abigail Willard Lyndon Caledonia ***
Olive Carpenter 83 George Carpenter Randolph Orange
Elias Carpenter 78 Elias Carpenter Strafford Orange
John Carpenter 84 Jotham Warren Brattleboro Windham
E-MAIL: Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 From: Phoebe Cortez - MzCortez@aol.com
Subj: Re: [B-NE] 1732-1800 RI Newspapers
VOLUME 1
Page 54: "Deserted from Capt. Potter s Company, in Col. Angell s Regiment, David Sears, about 5 Feet 9 Inches high, of a dark Complexion, has dark brown Hair, and dark Eyes; says he was born in Middleborough. Whoever takes up and secures said Deserter, and return him to the Subscriber in Providence, shall have Five Dollars Reward, and all reasonable Charges, pakd by ABEL CARPENTER, Lieut. Providence Gazette March 15, 1777"
E-MAIL: Date: Sun, 30 Sept 2001 From: Phoebe Cortez - MzCortez@aol.com
Alphabetical List of Officers of the Continental Army - C - Fifteenth Virginia - page 145
Carpenter, Abel (R. I.). 2d Lieutenant 2d Rhode Island, 17th February, 1777; resigned 14th April, 1779.
8385.
Polly Carpenter
Number 3910 in the Carpenter Memorial. Page 426
8386.
Abel Carpenter
Number 3911 in the Carpenter Memorial on page 426.
Birth year 1782 not 1793 as per CM.
8388.
George Washington Carpenter
Number 3913 in the Carpenter Memorial on page 426.
A merchant and a farmer. No family listed in the CM.
!MARRIAGE: Providence records states that he was married 5 April 1814 but the
CM indicates 14 April 1814.
An example of his diary is listed on page 426. He was a merchant and a farmer.
8389.
Lydia Carpenter
Number 3915 in the Carpenter Memorial on page 427.
8391.
Lydia Carpenter
Number 3917 in the Carpenter Memorial on page 427.
8392.
Almira Carpenter
Number 3918 in the Carpenter Memorial on page 427.
Elkannah or Alcanor French
His father is to believed to be Elkanah French.
NAME: Alcanor in the Carpenter Memorial on page 196.
3568.
Col. Samuel Carpenter
He held the office of colonel in the militia.1 MILI Samuel Carpenter
enlisted in the service as 2d lieutenant, in
Capt. Nathaniel Carpenter's company for six months; was
discharged Jan. 15, 1776. Samuel Carpenter of Rehoboth
commissioned 1st lieutenant in Capt. John Paine's company in
Col. Jacob French's regiment of ,MA militia; stationed
at Winter Hill, Feb. 27, 1776. Samuel Carpenter of Rehoboth
commissioned 2d lieutenant in Capt. Hick's company, Colonel
Thomas' regiment, March 27, 1776; Samuel Carpenter lieutenant
in Capt. Hick's company, Colonel Carpenter's regiment, in the
,RI alarm; enlisted Dec. 8, 1776, served 16 days,
marched from Rehoboth to Bristol.
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Marriage Notes for Col. Samuel Carpenter and Lydia Short
Published Aug. 10, 1788
8397.
Samuel Carpenter
Resided in Taunton,,MA.
Sarah Martin "Sally" Carpenter
Number 3953 on page 430 in the Carpenter Memorial.
No family listed.
Zephaniah Bishop
Resided in Attleboro.
3569.
Peter Carpenter
Probably resided in Providence, R.I.
1 MILI It appears that he enlisted in the
Revolutionary war as private,
in Captain Isaac Hogdes' company, in Col. Francis' regiment in
October, 1776; Peter Carpenter Jr., appears on receipt dated
Oct. 9, 1776, for wages, in Captain Hodges company, from Aug.
12, to Oct. 1, 1776.
1 MILI
1 MILI
1 MILI
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8401.
Rachel Carpenter
Died young.
Michael Dayfoot
Resided in Bristol, VT
8405.
Peter Carpenter
Died in infancy.
Capt. George B. Peck
Resided in Bristol, RI
3572.
Hannah Carpenter
BIRTH:
Name: Hannah Carpenter
Birth Date: 16 Mar 1757
Birth Place: Rehoboth, Massachusetts, USA
Relative: chi:Peter Carpenter; chi:Rachall Carpenter
Source: Vital Record of Rehoboth, 1642-1896. Marriages, Intentions, Births, Deaths, with Supplement containing the Record of 1896, Colonial Returns, Lists of the Early Settlers, Purchasers, Freemen, Inhabitants, the Soldiers serving in Philip's War and the Revolution.
Births
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Rehoboth, Massachusetts, Vital Records, 1642-1896 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2000.
Original data: Arnold, James N. Vital Record of Rehoboth, 1642-1896. Providence, RI, USA: Narragansett Historical Publishing, 1897.
SEE ALSO: image
Name: Hannah Carpenter
Event Type: Birth
Birth Date: 16 Mar 1757
Birth Place: Rehoboth, Massachusetts
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Massachusetts, Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data: Town and City Clerks of Massachusetts. Massachusetts Vital and Town Records. Provo, UT: Holbrook Research Institute (Jay and Delene Holbrook).
AGBI:
American Genealogical-Biographical Index (AGBI)No Image
Name: Hannah Bliss
Birth Date: 1756
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Volume: 15
Page Number: 114
Reference: Gen. Column of the " Boston Transcript". 1906-1941.( The greatest single source of material for gen. Data for the N.E. area and for the period 1600-1800. Completely indexed in the Index.): 13 Nov 1905, 8285
Source Information
Godfrey Memorial Library, comp.. American Genealogical-Biographical Index (AGBI) [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 1999.
Original data: Godfrey Memorial Library. American Genealogical-Biographical Index. Middletown, CT, USA: Godfrey Memorial Library.
NAFH: image
Name: Hannah Carpenter
Gender: Female
Age: 41
Birth Date: 6 Mar 1757 <---- should be 16 Mar 1757
Birth Place: of Rehoboth <----------
First Marriage Date: 23 Dec 1779
Death Date: 18 Aug 1798
Spouse: Ephraim Bliss
Child: Mary Bliss
Ephraim Bliss
Christopher Bliss
Shubael Bliss
Hannah Bliss
Laruna Bliss
Hannah Bliss
Ira Bliss
Source Citation
Book Title: Genealogy of the Bliss family in America from about the year 1550 to 1880
Source Information
Ancestry.com. North America, Family Histories, 1500-2000 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
CHILDREN:
Ira Bliss 1779–1797 <--- likely
Mary Bliss 1780–
Ephraim Bliss Jr. 1782–1832
Christopher Bliss 1785–1827
Shubael Bliss 1787–1868
Hannah A. Bliss 1789–1791
Laruna Bliss 1792–1863
Hannah Bliss 1794–1844
Ephraim Bliss
PARENTS: Parents unknown. However his death date is close to another Ephraim Bliss born 24 May 1752.
The death date for this person is 8 May 1828 and for the other (born in 1752) is 8 May 1827.
They may be the same person but further information needs to be gathered. JRC 3/2001.
But ... newer info follows.
PARENTS:
Emphraim Bliss 1726-1804
Mary Moulton 1732-1759
NAME:
AKA Ephraim Bliss, Jr. and the third (III).
He was the third Ephraim Bliss in his line and his son was the fourth. While the family did not formally use modern designators such a Jr., Sr. II, III, et cetera, they did use the old English custom of Junior and Senior when two of the same name was present. And a few records show this Ephraim as a Jr. - Until his son comes of age!
BIRTH:
Name: Ephraim Bliss
Birth Date: 26 Dec 1753
Birth Place: Rehoboth, Massachusetts, USA
Relative: chi:Ephraim Bliss; chi:Mary Bliss
Source: Vital Record of Rehoboth, 1642-1896. Marriages, Intentions, Births, Deaths, with Supplement containing the Record of 1896, Colonial Returns, Lists of the Early Settlers, Purchasers, Freemen, Inhabitants, the Soldiers serving in Philip's War and the Revolution.
Births
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Rehoboth, Massachusetts, Vital Records, 1642-1896 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2000.
Original data: Arnold, James N. Vital Record of Rehoboth, 1642-1896. Providence, RI, USA: Narragansett Historical Publishing, 1897.
SEE ALSO: image
Name: Ephraim Bliss
Event Type: Birth
Birth Date: 26 Dec 1753
Birth Place: Rehoboth, Massachusetts
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Massachusetts, Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data: Town and City Clerks of Massachusetts. Massachusetts Vital and Town Records. Provo, UT: Holbrook Research Institute (Jay and Delene Holbrook).
MARRIAGE: 1779 - image
Name: Ephraim Bliss
Gender: Male
Spouse: Hanah Carpenter
Marriage Date: 23 Dec 1779
City: Rehoboth
County: Bristol
Source: Family History Library, Salt Lake City, UT, Film # 0562559.
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Massachusetts, Compiled Marriages, 1633-1850 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005.
Original data: Dodd, Jordan, Liahona Research, comp. Massachusetts, Marriages, 1633-1850. With some noted exceptions all marriage records in this collection can be found at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah, and may be available through Family History Centers throughout the United States. See table below for information listed.
CENSUS: 1790 US Census
Name: Ephraim Bliss Junior
Home in 1790 (City, County, State): Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts
Free White Persons - Males - Under 16: 2
Free White Persons - Males - 16 and over: 2
Free White Persons - Females: 3
Number of Household Members: 7
Source Citation
Year: 1790; Census Place: Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts; Series: M637; Roll: 4; Page: 505; Image: 550; Family History Library Film: 0568144
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1790 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: First Census of the United States, 1790 (NARA microfilm publication M637, 12 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
MARRIAGE: 1800 - image
Name: Mr Ephraim Bliss
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 23 Feb 1800 <----- Intention to marry date per image
Marriage Place: Savoy, Massachusetts
Spouse Name: Rebecca Smith <------- The widow Rebecca Smith per image
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Massachusetts, Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data: Town and City Clerks of Massachusetts. Massachusetts Vital and Town Records. Provo, UT: Holbrook Research Institute (Jay and Delene Holbrook).
CENSUS: 1800 US Census
Name: Ephraim Bliss
Home in 1800 (City, County, State): Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts
Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over: 1
Number of Household Members Over 25: 2
Number of Household Members: 2
Source Citation
Year: 1800; Census Place: Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts; Series: M32; Roll: 19; Page: 777; Image: 55; Family History Library Film: 205612
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1800 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: Second Census of the United States, 1800. NARA microfilm publication M32 (52 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
Second Census of the United States, 1800: Population Schedules, Washington County, Territory Northwest of the River Ohio; and Population Census, 1803: Washington County, Ohio. NARA microfilm publication M1804 (1 roll).
CENSUS: 1810 US Census
Name: Ephraim Bliss
Home in 1810 (City, County, State): Savoy, Berkshire, Massachusetts
Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25: 1
Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25: 1
Number of Household Members Under 16: 2
Number of Household Members: 4
Source Citation
Year: 1810; Census Place: Savoy, Berkshire, Massachusetts; Roll: 17; Page: 179; Image: 00157; Family History Library Film: 0205625
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1810 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: Third Census of the United States, 1810. (NARA microfilm publication M252, 71 rolls). Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
CENSUS: 1820 US Census
Name: Ephraim Bliss Junior
Home in 1820 (City, County, State): Savoy, Berkshire, Massachusetts
Enumeration Date: August 7, 1820
Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 15: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 18: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44: 1
Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 3
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44: 2
Number of Persons - Engaged in Agriculture: 3
Free White Persons - Under 16: 6
Free White Persons - Over 25: 3
Total Free White Persons: 11
Total All Persons - White, Slaves, Colored, Other: 11
Source Citation
1820 U S Census; Census Place: Savoy, Berkshire, Massachusetts; Page: 90; NARA Roll: M33_48; Image: 58
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1820 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: Fourth Census of the United States, 1820. (NARA microfilm publication M33, 142 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
DEATH:
Died about 8 May 1822 to 1828. No documentation given. Death year varies from 1822, 1825, 1827 and 1828 in various genealogies.
Hope C. Bliss (NSDAR #957629) indicates a May 1823 probate that is likely his in the DAR application papers. See below.
NAFH: image
Name: Ephraim Bliss [Ephraim Bliss 3rd] [Ephraim Bliss Jr]
Gender: Male
Age: 68
Birth Date: 20 Dec 1753 <--- Should be 26 Dec 1753 – see BIRTH: below
Birth Place: of Rehoboth and Savoy, Mass
First Marriage Date: 23 Dec 1779
Death Date: 8 May 1822 <---- Different from 8 May 1828
Father: Ephraim Bliss
Mother: Mary Moulton
Spouse: Hannah Carpenter
Rebecca Smith
Child: Mary Bliss
Ephraim Bliss
Christopher Bliss
Shubael Bliss
Hannah Bliss
Laruna Bliss
Hannah Bliss
Ira Bliss
Rufus Bliss
Rebeckah Bliss
Source Citation
Book Title: Genealogy of the Bliss family in America from about the year 1550 to 1880
Source Information
Ancestry.com. North America, Family Histories, 1500-2000 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
NDAR: ANALYSIS for Ephraim Bliss 3rd
Danielle Teyssier, NSDAR Genealogist
National Society Daughters of the American Revolution
Office of the Registrar General
1776 D Street NW
Washington, DC 20006-5392
Re: ANALYSIS for Ephraim Bliss 3rd New Patriot Application AIR
Dear Ms. Teyssier,
In response to your letter of 9 September 2019 requesting documentation to confirm dates and places of death for Ephraim Bliss 3rd and Hannah Carpenter in Generation 7, as well as information distinguishing which Hannah Carpenter of all likely candidates of this name born in Rehoboth was the one who married Ephraim Bliss 3rd. I will address the latter issue first.
Hannah Carpenter was probably born in Rehoboth 16 Mar 1757 to Peter Carpenter and Rachall Blanding/Blanden, based on information above. According to MA Town & Vital Records, Hannah died in Savoy Berkshire Co MA on 18 Aug 1798
I posit that Ephraim Bliss 3rd died in Savoy Berkshire Co MA on or about 8 May 1822, based on Genealogy of the Bliss Family from about the year 1550 to 1880 (pub. 1881), Land Records, and U.S. Federal Censuses for 1810 and 1820
Hannah Carpenter, Wife of Ephraim Bliss 3rd
Vital Records of Rehoboth lists numerous Hannah Carpenters born in Rehoboth Bristol Co MA who could have feasibly been the Hannah Carpenter who married Ephraim Bliss on 23 Dec 1779, when he was aged 26. Possibilities include the following, born between 1746 and 1765, aged 7 years older to 12 years younger than Ephraim:
Hannah Carpenter born in Rehoboth 9 May 1746 to Daniell Carpenter and Susannah
Hannah Carpenter born in Rehoboth 1 Jan 1751 to Eliphalett Carpenter and Freelove
Hannah Carpenter born in Rehoboth 14 Jul 1755 to Jonathan Carpenter and Abigail Walker
Hannah Carpenter born in Rehoboth 26 Jan 1756 to Jedediah Carpenter and Hannah Allen/Allyn
Hannah Carpenter born in Rehoboth 16 Mar 1757 to Peter Carpenter and Rachall Blanding/Blanden
Hannah Carpenter born in Rehoboth 17 Mar 1764 to Elisha Carpenter & Esther Greenwood
Hannah Carpenter born in Rehoboth 20 May 1765 to Eliphalet(t) Carpenter and Freelove Chaffe(e was the second Hannah in this family, probably named for her deceased sister above in (2)Vital Records of Rehoboth
The wife of Ephraim Bliss 3rd had eight children: Vital Records of Rehoboth
Child Birth Date Birthplace
Mary 18 Oct 1780 Rehoboth
Ephraim (4th) 17 Aug 1782 Rehoboth
Christopher 15 Feb 1785 Rehoboth
Shubael 1 Mar 1787 Rehoboth
Hannah (1st, died young) 10 Mar 1789 Rehoboth
Laruna (or Laranna), son 10 Jun 1792 Rehoboth
Hannah (2nd) 21 Jun 1794 Rehoboth
Ira 26 Mar 1797 Rehoboth
She died 18 Aug 1798 in Savoy Berkshire Co MA, where her husband remarried in 1800, had two more children by Rebecca Smith in 1800 and 1802, and where he died after 1820. US Fed Census 1820 The question is, which Hannah Carpenter of those born in Rehoboth was the Hannah Carpenter who married Ephraim Bliss 3rd, born in 1753.
Reviewing names of siblings and children that might suggest a family connection from Vital Records of Rehoboth, I found some correlation. I graded each candidate’s eligibility as follows, correlating to numbers above:
Hannah Carpenter born in Rehoboth in 1746: Eliminated from consideration
Died at age 17; could not have had eight children, as Ephraim’s wife Hannah did
Hannah Carpenter born in Rehoboth in 1751: Eliminated from consideration
Died before 1765, when sister Hannah was born (see #7 below)
Hannah Carpenter born in Rehoboth in 1755: Eliminated from consideration, ~24 years at marriage
Had a brother named Ephraim, though the son of Ephraim Bliss 3rd was likely named after his father. Hannah Carpenter born July 14, 1755, married Amaziah Peck in 1779, had no children named Ephraim, and died 3 Jan 1840 as Hannah Peck.Find A Grave Mem #123370279
Hannah Carpenter born in Rehoboth in 1756: Less likely candidate, ~23 years at marriage.
No names of this Hannah match those of her siblings or those of Ephraim Bliss
Perhaps married Calvin Jacobs in 1776RI Vital Extracts, 1636-1899 If so, she could not have married Ephraim in 1779. Jacobs died in 1810Find A Grave Mem #82813043. According to his Will, his children’s names were Hannah, Lucy, Olive, Polly, Clairanne, Nancy, and son Loranze, though spelling was difficult to decipher.
Hannah Carpenter born in Rehoboth in 1757: Most likely candidate, ~22 years at marriage
Mary, 1st child of Ephraim and Hannah, is likely named after Hannah’s closest sister Mary, who also had an aunt and grandmother named Mary. Ephraim (4th), first son of Ephraim and Hannah, was likely named to continue three generations of the Ephraim Bliss name, implying a stronger connection than the brother in (3)
Hannah Carpenter born in Rehoboth in 1764: Eliminated from consideration, aged ~15 years at Ephraim’s date of marriage and died after Ephraim’s date of remarriage. No names of siblings match those of Ephraim Bliss’s. Perhaps married Howland Kimball
Hannah Carpenter born in Rehoboth in 1765: Eliminated from consideration, aged ~14 years at marriage
Had a brother named Ephraim but inconclusive; likely named after her older sister Hannah, born 1751 and died young; perhaps married Isaac Barnes, Attleboro
Extensive research revealed no other clues for a variety of reasons:
Ephraim Bliss 3rd would not have included his first wife in his Will, since he remarried in 1800, and died 8 May 1822 at age 68, after first wife Hannah died in 1798
Birth records from the 1700s show no birth date, maternal grandparents, or maiden name of the mother
Marriage records from the 1700s show no birth dates or parents of the wife to confirm identity
Neither Marriage or Census records from early 1800s show relevant information to establish identity of mother through records of her children
Death records from the 1700s show only the wife’s married last name and no birth record information
Find A Grave shows no relevant information to identify Hannah Carpenter, wife of Ephraim Bliss
Family records on Ancestry or Family Search purporting to identify wife’s parents are not substantiated
Census records from the 1700s show no name, birth place, birth date, or parents of any wife
Genealogy of the Bliss Family from about the year 1550 to 18803 shows birth, marriage, and death dates, spouse, and children that concur with Genealogy of the Bliss Family4, as cited in my original DAR Supplement, but neither source cite primary records to prove whether the Hannah Carpenter born in 1756 or 1757 is the wife of Ephraim Bliss
After extensive hours of research, I was unable to definitively prove the lineage of the wife of Ephraim Bliss, other than her maiden name was Hannah Carpenter, born in Rehoboth, probably in 1756 or 1757. The birth date of 1757 concords with Genealogy of the Bliss Family from about the year 1550 to 1880, whose compiler might have had access to accurate unpublished information on Bliss family members since he was born just 42 years later. I am hoping you find this an acceptably accurate proof for someone born in the 1700s, given the above limitations of the records available. Moreover, my lineage to the Patriot goes through her husband.
Nonetheless, enclosed please find record MA Town & Vital Records, 1620-1988 confirming the date and place of death for Hannah (Carpenter) Bliss, wife of Ephraim Bliss 3rd, before his remarriage 19 months later on 13 Mar 1800.
Ephraim Bliss 3rd
Research on Ephraim Bliss 3rd was complicated by the number of Ephraim Blisses found in colonial America, both in Rehoboth and Berkshire County, in my own line and others. My extensive search for death records found no grave, death certificate or record for an Ephraim Bliss born in 1753, who died about 1822. Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriotsp. 90 lists a grave marker for Ephraim Bliss 3rd in Rehoboth, MA, where he was born. But I posit this is merely a memorial marker set by Rehoboth to claim Ephraim 3rd as a patriot son. I believe he was actually buried in Berkshire County in western Massachusetts, for these reasons:
Birth records of his children indicate he moved from Rehoboth, where his children were born, to Berkshire County, where his first wife died and where he married second wife Rebecca SmithMA Town & Vital Records, 1620-1988
Census records for 1810 and 1820 U.S. Federal Census Collection show he was in Savoy Berkshire County MA at age 57 and 67
Genealogy of the Bliss Family from about the year 1550 to 1880 p. 205 shows a death date of 8 May 1822, which is in accordance with the Census records showing him living near his sons in Savoy in 1810 and 1820. He was perhaps buried on his own land, explaining why the researched gravesites in Berkshire County show no record of a marker with his name
Indeed, I searched every site listed on the Berkshire County Cemetery Project, which reported no stone found for Ephraim Bliss 3rd, even in the “Bowen-Bliss-Smith Cemetery” in Cheshire, which is adjacent to Savoy, his home identified on the Censuses. Cemeteries were identified by town, church, family name, or individual stones, especially older ones or those for babies. This description from a graveyard in Cheshire suggests what could have happened to the gravestone of Ephraim Bliss 3rd:
This cemetery has long been forgotten and buried on rural farmland. In order to access it, you must go through the backyard of a family living on Wells Rd. The path to the cemetery is guarded by a Rotweiler, and although the owners say he is friendly, I recommend calling them ahead of time if you plan on visiting. They do like visitors to the cemetery. Once you sneak past "pooch" (not his real name) you climb up a hill and through some brush, you walk into the cemetery. If you visit it in the fall or the early spring it seems very stark and forgotten. Visiting the cemetery in May, I was shocked by how beautiful the yellow wildflowers made the cemetery. A great wish of mine would be to clean up the cemetery. 10 years ago, Peter White visited the cemetery after the town of Cheshire had done their cleanup for the 200-year celebration. He took a pole and began to prod the ground. He found two stones buried in the earth. Ricky Leab, a Berkshire Athenaeum librarian, checked a recording of this cemetery done in the early 1900s. They never recorded Thomas's stone. Thomas's stone had been buried for over 75 years.
[From Jenks Cemetery posting, Berkshire Co Gen Web Project]
Other county cemeteries cite stones missing altogether or sunk underground. In the adjacent town of Florida in Berkshire County, the Rice Burial Ground report cites this:
There is one gravestone, that of Lieut. Luke Rice, and one unmarked fieldstone in this lot. It is located about 7/10ths of a mile north on Church Road, off of Route 2, the Mohawk Trail. The plot is on the right (east) side of the road and is easily seen and accessible, surrounded by a rock wall. The area is moss covered and there are mounds and sunken indentations that indicate there could be several other unmarked burials here.
Numerous old cemeteries are listed in Savoy and Cheshire, many with only a few graves, suggesting that the deceased were initially buried on private lands owned by the local family or families, such as the Tomb, Tower, and Turner Cemeteries in Savoy to name a few. Additionally, dozens of gravestones listed in the Main Street Cemetery in nearby Dalton and Saint Bridgets Cemetery, also in Berkshire County, are missing dozens of last names and dates, perhaps because lichen and age have rendered many stones illegible.
Census records of 1810 and 1820 list “Ephraim Bliss” in Savoy Berkshire Co MA. Although these early Census records do not list names of family members to more definitively prove identity, the following suggests he was living in Savoy on a farm at his death, sometime after 1820:
1810 U.S. Federal Census:
Children of Ephraim 3rd would be the following ages:
Mary, aged 30
Ephraim 4th, aged 28
Christopher, aged 25
Shubael, aged 23
Laurena (son), aged 18
Hannah, aged 16
Ira, aged 13
Rebeckah, aged 8 (by 2nd wife Rebeckah)
These ages and genders do not quite concord with Ephraim 3rd or 4th nor with the handwritten Census, which is truncated, but the separate listings for Ephraim (aged 57) and Ephraim Jr (aged 22) indicate they maintained separate households, as the second wife of Ephraim 3rd was alive until 1817. Ephraim 4th married Olive Ingraham in 1806. Genealogy of the Bliss Family p. 377 indicates their son William was aged 4 and daughter Lydia was aged 2 in 1810. They may have also housed the youngest children of Ephraim 3rd, Ira aged 13 and/or Rebeckah aged 8, as well as non-family members.
1820 U.S. Federal Census:
Sons of Ephraim 3rd are listed as living in the same town of Savoy in 1820:
Ephraim, aged 38
Shubael, aged 33
Laurena, aged 28
N.B. Ephraim “Jr” was probably Ephraim 4th at the time of the both the 1810 and 1820 Census, was married and head of household, and presumably has his father Ephraim 3rd living with him by 1820, along with 6 persons under age 16, mostly women, no slaves, but three engaged in agriculture, implying a busy household. So, if his father allegedly died two years later in 1822, they might well have buried him on their own farmland. He was widowed by then, after his 2nd wife Rebecca died in 1817. I found a U.S. War Bounty Land Warrant, dated 1820, for “E. Bliss,” assigned to “heirs of E. Bliss,” but no definitive proof this was for “Ephraim Bliss 3rd”.
Land Records provide an additional clue that Ephraim Bliss 3rd died about 1822. The deed transfers Lot 157 in Savoy Berkshire County Massachusetts within the family:
Deed Dated Grantee Grantor Location Alleg’d Grantor Death Date
May 1794 Ephraim Bliss Nathan Shearman Lot 157 Orig purchase by EB Jr
Nov 1805 Ephraim Bliss et al Ephraim Bliss Jr Lot 157 EB Jr died July 1804
May 1823 Heirs of Ephraim Bliss et al Shubael Bliss Lot 157 EB 3rd died~May 1822
Dec 1824 Heirs of Ephraim Bliss et al Christopher Bliss Lot 157 EB 3rd died~May 1822 Oct 1828 Christopher Bliss Ephraim Bliss (4th?) Lot 157 EB 3rd died~May 1822
With four generations using the name ‘Ephraim Bliss,” it is difficult to know for sure which Ephraim is which. However, Shubael and Christopher were the second and third oldest sons of Ephraim 3rd. Ephraim Bliss Jr, father of Ephraim Bliss 3rd died in July 1804. Upon his death his farm passed down to “heirs of Ephraim Bliss et al,” which may have included his oldest son, Ephraim Bliss 3rd and his three other sons Benjamin, Obadiah, and Charles. My guess is, his oldest son Ephraim 3rd ran the farm. Regardless, the 1824 deed to Christopher Bliss after the death of his father, Ephraim 3rd, allegedly in 1822, specifies land “being one fourth part of the farm that my father Ephraim Bliss late of Savoy…possessed of, known by Lot No 157.” Additional research attempted to establish exact distribution without definitive or relevant answers. Without getting lost in the details, this Deed signed 24 April 1824 establishes that Ephraim Bliss 3rd died before that date.
I thought finding probate papers might further prove a date and/or place of death for Ephraim 3rd. When I initially found none, I thought perhaps Berkshire County was too far west to have up-to-date legal services during his lifetime. He moved to Berkshire County only three years after it was incorporated in 1797. According to Wikipedia,
Savoy began its existence within the Massachusetts Colony as part of "Northern Berkshire Township #6"…The town was officially incorporated in 1797…
The earliest related writing found is entitled History of the Town of Savoy by I. E. Miller, published by H. E. Millek, West Cummington, Mass., dated 1879:
Some of the older families in the south part of the town,
are Ingrahams, Bowkers, Biteses, Blisses, and Sturtevants… [History of Savoy, p. 10]
Given its fledgling status, Savoy had few lawyers, even by the latter 1800s:
Savoy cannot boast of the number of her sons in the le-
gal profession, but what may be wanting in quantity is am-
ply made up in quality. … [History of Savoy, p. 23]
That said, massmayflower.org provided an index to probate records from Berkshire County that included an 1822 reference to Ephraim Bliss, but the procured documents, which I enclose, were not related to Ephraim Bliss 3rd (likely to his brother Charles’s children). This database claims to hold probate file papers from 1761-1917 for Berkshire County, MA, supplied by the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court Archives, and managed online by New England Historic Genealogical Society, so I have little hope that a trip to Massachusetts would uncover any probate papers that would produce a more definitive date or place for Ephraim Bliss 3rd.
Conclusion
Please accept the above information and enclosed documents as sufficient proof to admit Ephraim Bliss 3rd as a bonafide Patriot in the DAR database. His service should not go unrecognized because records of the 1700s or early 1800s failed to include decisive information on the precise identity of Hannah Carpenter, other than that he did indeed marry a Hannah Carpenter of Rehoboth who bore him eight children. While Genealogy of the Bliss Family from about the year 1550 to 1880 does not cite primary written records, it offers information that might well have been handed down from only two generations removed.
My connection to this Patriot is through Christopher Bliss to Ephraim Bliss 3rd, not through Hannah Carpenter’s line. As much as Hannah’s line might offer another possible Patriot to research, my direct lineage to Ephraim Bliss 3rd is not dependent on identifying which Hannah Carpenter was his wife.
Ephraim Bliss’s grave has not yet been located and is likely buried somewhere by itself on the former family farmland. His exact place and date of death remains unknown, but can be estimated by land transfers and the 1881 genealogy until a grave is found. I hope this elusive detail will not prevent his inclusion in the DAR database, as it will further delay recognition of his service, along with that of his father and grandfather – an impressive three-generation trio of Patriots.
For clarity in the DAR records, please use “3rd” for this Patriot, rather than “Jr.,” because I hope to prove that his father and grandfather were also Patriots, to be designated “Ephraim Bliss Jr.” and “Ephraim Bliss Sr.” to clarify their identities, unless you suggest otherwise. These Ephraims have definitive dates and places of birth, marriage, and death, already researched. Generations of Ephraim Blisses promise to confuse future researchers, as elder Ephraims die and Ephraims Jr’s drop the “Jr” designation and become senior heads of households, but the designations of “Sr,” “Jr,” and “3rd” should suffice for clarifying these three generations of Patriots for our purposes.
Thank you for your consideration and efforts on reviewing this deserving Patriot. After extensive research I am at a loss as to where else to search for more definitive answers. I hope my explanations suffice until new evidence becomes available. For now, please advise if I have left any stone unturned.
Very truly yours,
Hope C. Bliss
NSDAR #957629
3575.
Molly Hunt
BIRTH: 22 or 28 May 1750. She was the eldest daughter.
DEATH:
She was 66 years old at her death.
GRAVE: images
Molly Hunt Carpenter
Birth: 22 May 1750 Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA
Death: 10 Aug 1815 (aged 65) Attleboro, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA
Burial: Hillside Cemetery, Attleboro, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA
Memorial #: 55179605
Inscription: Inscription: Whilst fond affection drops the frequent tear, over the cold form that now rests here, love fondly whispers that this Mouldring dust, may rest and reign among the just.
Family Members
Parents
John Hunt 1719-1806
Rachel Carpenter Hunt 1731-1759
Spouse
Penuel Carpenter Unknown-1798
Siblings
Peter Hunt 1757-1838
Half Siblings
Josiah Hunt 1764-1814
Created by: messinian (47198850)
Added: 2010-07-19T21:52:00.000Z
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/55179605/molly_carpenter
Citation: Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/55179605/molly-carpenter: accessed July 7, 2024), memorial page for Molly Hunt Carpenter (22 May 1750–10 Aug 1815), Find a Grave Memorial ID 55179605, citing Hillside Cemetery, Attleboro, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA; Maintained by messinian (contributor 47198850).
Phanuel Carpenter
Number 831 in the Carpenter Memorial. Page 143.
Family on page 267 and 268 (# 297). Marriage published 5 Nov. 1768.
See also page 136 of the Carpenter Memorial, Number 774 for more information.
He was a second cousin to Rachel, the mother of Molly, born 1750.
Phanuel Carpenter of Rehoboth, private in the Lexington massacre, in Capt.
Nathaniel Carpenter's Company, served 8 days; enlisted second time as private
in Capt. Nathaniel Carpenter's Company, Col. Carpenter's Regiment in the Rhode
Island Alarm Dec. 8, 1776 and served 4 days. He marched from Rehoboth to
Bristol. In enlisted a third time in Captain Samuel Brown's Company in Col.
Thomas Carpenter's Regiment in the Rhode Island Alarm Aug. 1, 1780 and served 9
days marching from Rehoboth to Bristol.
NAME:
Phanuel is sometimes seen as Penuel.
GRAVE:
Penuel Carpenter
Birth: unknown
Death: 23 Nov 1798 Attleboro, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA
Burial: Hillside Cemetery, Attleboro, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA
Memorial #: 85130488
Bio:
In his 62nd year
__________
Vital Records of Attleborough, MA
Gravestone Record
Family Members
Spouses
Dorothy Carpenter Unknown-1776
Molly Hunt Carpenter 1750-1815
Created by: Diana L. Brace (46885260)
Added: 2012-02-18T02:04:27.000Z
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/85130488/penuel_carpenter
Citation: Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/85130488/penuel-carpenter: accessed July 7, 2024), memorial page for Penuel Carpenter (unknown–23 Nov 1798), Find a Grave Memorial ID 85130488, citing Hillside Cemetery, Attleboro, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA; Maintained by Diana L. Brace (contributor 46885260).
suggestion for bio addition is CM data and comment above
suggestion for birth, places, parents & vet status
3578.
Thomas Carpenter
Number 1874 on page 255 in the Carpenter Memorial.
Family listed on 428 (# 609). A Farmer and justice of the Peace.
See notes page 256 for Revolutionary War service.
He was elected to the general court of Plymouth, as deputy, in
1818. He held the office of justice of the peace for many
years, also held other town offices. A farmer.
1 MILI It appears that he enlisted in the Revolutionary war as private,
in Captain Isaac Hodges' company, Aug. 12, 1776; served one
month; he enlisted again as private in Capt. John Dyer's
company, in Colonel Carpenter's regiment in the ,RI
alarm, Dec 8, 1776; served eight days and marched from Rehoboth
to Bristol; enlisted again as private in Captain Hicks'
company, in Colonel Daggett's regiment, in ,RI alarm,
Jan. 2, 1778; served three months, roll sworn at Rehoboth.
Thomas Carpenter of Rehoboth private in Captain Bullock's
company, in Colonel Carpenter's regiment, enlisted July 27,
1778; served one month and 16 days; again enlisted as private
in Capt. Simeon Cole's company, Colonel Carpenter's regiment, in
the ,RI alarm, Aug. 2, 1780; served six days and
marched to Tiverton.
1 MILI
1 MILI
2 SOUR S203
3 TEXT pg 256
Cynthia Wheaton
She died age 29.
Susanna Perrin
She was granddaughter of Daniel Perrin who married Abigail Carpenter.
Through which of his sons is unknown. Daniel is the best guess.
She was the granddaughter of Daniel Perrin who married Abigail
Carpenter.
3583.
Stephen Carpenter
Number 1878 on page 256 in the Carpenter Memorial.
Family on page 429 (# 610). A farmer. A Captain of Militia.
GRAVE: image
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=82808985
Capt Stephen Carpenter
Birth: Nov. 5, 1765
Rehoboth
Bristol County
Massachusetts, USA
Death: Jul. 15, 1850
Rehoboth
Bristol County
Massachusetts, USA
Parents:
Thomas Carpenter 1733 – 1807
Elizabeth Moulton 1736 – 1804
Children:
Hannah Carpenter 1791 – 1876
Stephen Carpenter 1793 – 1841
Maria Carpenter 1796 – 1819
William M Carpenter 1798 – 1816
Joseph Wilmarth Carpenter 1801 – 1864
Samuel Bliss Carpenter 1804 – 1843
Ira Winsor Carpenter 1807 – 1865
Abigail Whipple Carpenter 1810 –
Francis Henry Carpenter 1813 – 1881
Family links:
Parents:
Thomas Carpenter (1733 - 1807)
Elizabeth Moulton Carpenter (1736 - 1804)
Spouse:
Hannah Wilmarth Carpenter (1770 - 1850)*
Children:
William M Carpenter (1798 - 1816)*
Samuel B Carpenter (1804 - 1843)*
Ira Winsor Carpenter (1807 - 1865)*
Siblings:
Elizabeth Carpenter Abell (1755 - 1792)*
Thomas Carpenter (1758 - 1837)*
Sarah Carpenter (1760 - 1775)*
William Carpenter (1763 - ____)*
Stephen Carpenter (1765 - 1850)
James Carpenter (1767 - 1812)*
Peter Carpenter (1773 - 1814)*
*Calculated relationship
Burial:
Village Cemetery
Rehoboth
Bristol County
Massachusetts, USA
Created by: kickstand
Record added: Jan 01, 2012
Find A Grave Memorial# 82808985
Hannah Wilmarth
GRAVE: image
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=82808899
Hannah Wilmarth Carpenter
Birth: Oct. 7, 1770, USA
Death: Apr. 17, 1850
Rehoboth
Bristol County
Massachusetts, USA
Parents:
Joseph Wilmarth 1745-1827
Hope Whipple
Wife of Stephen Carpenter 1765-1850
Children:
Hannah Carpenter 22 Oct 1791
Maria Carpenter 2 Sep 1796
Stephen Carpenter 19 Sep 1793
William M Carpenter 5 Apr 1798
Joseph Wilmarth Carpenter 24 Nov 1801
Samuel Bliss Carpenter 15 Jun 1804
Ira Winsor Carpenter 19 May 1807
Abigail Whipple Carpenter 28 Jul 1810
Francis Henry Carpenter 24 Apr 1813
Family links:
Spouse:
Stephen Carpenter (1765 - 1850)
Children:
William M Carpenter (1798 - 1816)*
Samuel B Carpenter (1804 - 1843)*
Ira Winsor Carpenter (1807 - 1865)*
*Calculated relationship
Burial:
Village Cemetery
Rehoboth
Bristol County
Massachusetts, USA
Created by: kickstand
Record added: Jan 01, 2012
Find A Grave Memorial# 82808899
Nathan Fisher
Resided in Taunton,,MA.
8430.
William M. Carpenter
DEATH:
Name: William M. Carpenter
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 18 Nov 1816
Burial Place: Rehoboth, Massachusetts
Death Date:
Death Place:
Age:
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Occupation:
Race:
Marital Status:
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I09669-9
System Origin: Massachusetts-EASy
GS Film number: 1987645
Reference ID: 325
Citing this Record:
"Massachusetts Deaths and Burials, 1795-1910," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FC9F-RZ3 : 10 December 2014), William M. Carpenter, ; citing , reference 325; FHL microfilm 1,987,645.
GRAVE: image
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=82808800
William M Carpenter
Birth: 1798
Death: Nov. 18, 1816
Son of Capt. Stephen Carpenter
Family links:
Parents:
Stephen Carpenter (1765 - 1850)
Hannah Wilmarth Carpenter (1770 - 1850)
Siblings:
William M Carpenter (1798 - 1816)
Samuel B Carpenter (1804 - 1843)*
Ira Winsor Carpenter (1807 - 1865)*
*Calculated relationship
Burial:
Village Cemetery
Rehoboth
Bristol County
Massachusetts, USA
Created by: kickstand
Record added: Jan 01, 2012
Find A Grave Memorial# 82808800
8432.
Samuel Bliss Carpenter
GRAVE: images
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=82809631
Samuel B Carpenter
Birth: Jun. 15, 1804
Rehoboth
Bristol County
Massachusetts, USA
Death: Aug. 29, 1843
Aged 39 years. Buried with his wife.
Family links:
Parents:
Stephen Carpenter (1765 - 1850)
Hannah Wilmarth Carpenter (1770 - 1850)
Spouse:
Seraphina A Carpenter (1810 - 1890)*
Siblings:
William M Carpenter (1798 - 1816)*
Samuel B Carpenter (1804 - 1843)
Ira Winsor Carpenter (1807 - 1865)*
*Calculated relationship
Burial:
Village Cemetery
Rehoboth
Bristol County
Massachusetts, USA
Created by: kickstand
Record added: Jan 01, 2012
Find A Grave Memorial# 82809631
Seraphina A. Hix
CENSUS: Living with brother-in-law Francis H. Carpenter and family in Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts. Age 40 MA.
Name: Seraphina Carpenter
Residence: Rehoboth, Bristol, Massachusetts
Age: 40 years
Calculated Birth Year: 1810
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Gender: Female
Race (original):
Race (expanded):
Death Month:
Death Year:
Film Number: 14701
Digital GS Number: 4194637
Image Number: 00634
Line Number: 16
Dwelling House Number: 218
Family Number: 270
Marital Status:
Free or Slave:
Collection: United States Census, 1850
GRAVE: images
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=82809702
Seraphina A Carpenter
Birth: 1810
Death: Oct. 4, 1890
Widow of Samuel B. Carpenter. Aged 80 years and 6 months
Family links:
Spouse:
Samuel B Carpenter (1804 - 1843)
Burial:
Village Cemetery
Rehoboth
Bristol County
Massachusetts, USA
Created by: kickstand
Record added: Jan 01, 2012
Find A Grave Memorial# 82809702
3584.
James Carpenter
Number 1879 on page 256 in the Carpenter Memorial.
Family on page 429 and 430 (# 611). A manufacturer and farmer.
DEATH:died either 11 or 20 Oct. 1812.
MARRIAGE: See notes on which Lucy Bliss is which in Lucy's notes.
GRAVE: images
James Carpenter
Birth: 15 Sep 1767 Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA
Death: 20 Oct 1812 (aged 45) Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA
Burial: Village Cemetery, Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA
Memorial #: 11002036
Family Members
Parents
Thomas Carpenter 1733-1807
Elizabeth Moulton Carpenter 1736-1804
Spouse
Lucy Bliss Carpenter 1769-1817
Siblings
Elizabeth Carpenter Abell 1755-1792
Thomas Carpenter 1758-1837
Sarah Carpenter 1760-1775
William Carpenter 1763-Unknown
Stephen Carpenter 1765-1850
Peter Carpenter 1773-1814
Children
Joseph Carpenter 1789-1880
Rebecca Carpenter 1796-1810
Rosilla Carpenter 1799-1806
Created by: Karen (46487446)
Added: 21 May 2005
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/11002036
Citation: Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 12 November 2019), memorial page for James Carpenter (15 Sep 1767–20 Oct 1812), Find A Grave Memorial no. 11002036, citing Village Cemetery, Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA ; Maintained by Karen (contributor 46487446) .
Lucy Bliss
NOTE:
Her father is believed Jonathon Bliss and she was grand daughter of Lt. Ephraim Bliss. But there has been some discussion otherwise. Some believe that she was daughter of Abdial Bliss and his wife Lydia.
Jonathan and Abdial are brothers.
BIRTH1: Conflicting parents
23 June 1769 See: VR 3/120 per Neysa Garrett, which matches the Carpenter Memorial date given.
SEE: image (typed)
Name: Lucy Bliss
Event Type: Birth
Birth Date: 23 Jun 1769
Birth Place: Rehoboth, Massachusetts
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Massachusetts, U.S., Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data: Town and City Clerks of Massachusetts. Massachusetts Vital and Town Records. Provo, UT: Holbrook Research Institute (Jay and Delene Holbrook).
SEE ALSO:
Name: Lucy Bliss
Birth Date: 23 Jun 1769
Birth Place: Rehoboth, Massachusetts, USA
Relative: chi:Jonathan Bliss, Jr.; chi:Lydia Bliss <---------------------------
Source: Vital Record of Rehoboth, 1642-1896. Marriages, Intentions, Births, Deaths, with Supplement containing the Record of 1896, Colonial Returns, Lists of the Early Settlers, Purchasers, Freemen, Inhabitants, the Soldiers serving in Philip's War and the Revolution.
Births
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Rehoboth, Massachusetts, U.S., Vital Records, 1642-1896 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2000.
Original data: Arnold, James N. Vital Record of Rehoboth, 1642-1896. Providence, RI, USA: Narragansett Historical Publishing, 1897.
SEE ALSO:
NAFH: image
Name: Lucy Bliss
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 1769
First Marriage Date: 1788
Death Date: 1817
Father: Jonathan Bliss
Mother: Lydia Wheeler
Spouse: James Carpenter
Child: Joseph Carpenter
Source Citation
Book Title: Lineage Book of the Charter Members of the DAR Vol 037
Source Information
Ancestry.com. North America, Family Histories, 1500-2000 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
BIRTH2:
6 July 1765 is given by Gene Zubrinsky who cites Arnold, Vital Record of Rehoboth.
He (also) indicates that Lucy Bliss, daughter of Jonathan and Lydia (Wheeler) Bliss, was born at Rehoboth on 23 June 1769.
SEE: image (typed)
Name: Lucy Bliss
Event Type: Birth
Birth Date: 6 Jul 1765
Birth Place: Rehoboth, Massachusetts
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Massachusetts, U.S., Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data: Town and City Clerks of Massachusetts. Massachusetts Vital and Town Records. Provo, UT: Holbrook Research Institute (Jay and Delene Holbrook).
SEE ALSO:
Name: Lucy Bliss
Birth Date: 6 Jul 1765
Birth Place: Rehoboth, Massachusetts, USA
Relative: chi:Abdial Bliss; chi:Lydia Bliss <------------------------------
Source: Vital Record of Rehoboth, 1642-1896. Marriages, Intentions, Births, Deaths, with Supplement containing the Record of 1896, Colonial Returns, Lists of the Early Settlers, Purchasers, Freemen, Inhabitants, the Soldiers serving in Philip's War and the Revolution.
Births
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Rehoboth, Massachusetts, U.S., Vital Records, 1642-1896 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2000.
Original data: Arnold, James N. Vital Record of Rehoboth, 1642-1896. Providence, RI, USA: Narragansett Historical Publishing, 1897.
SEE ALSO:
Name: Lucy Bliss
Birth Date: 6 Jul 1765
Birth Place: Rehoboth, Massachusetts, USA
Relative: chi:Abdial Bliss; chi:Lydia Bliss
Source: Vital Record of Rehoboth, 1642-1896. Marriages, Intentions, Births, Deaths, with Supplement containing the Record of 1896, Colonial Returns, Lists of the Early Settlers, Purchasers, Freemen, Inhabitants, the Soldiers serving in Philip's War and the Revolution.
Births
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Rehoboth, Massachusetts, U.S., Vital Records, 1642-1896 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2000.
Original data: Arnold, James N. Vital Record of Rehoboth, 1642-1896. Providence, RI, USA: Narragansett Historical Publishing, 1897.
SEE ALSO:
NAFH: image
Name: Lucy Bliss
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 6 Jul 1765
Father: Abadial Bliss
Mother: Lydia Smith
Source Citation
Book Title: Genealogy of the Bliss family in America from about the year 1550 to 1880
Source Information
Ancestry.com. North America, Family Histories, 1500-2000 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
MARRIAGE: WHICH LUCY GOES WITH JAMES CARPENTER???
6 March 1789 per VR 4/228. Info supplied by Neysa Garrett, via email on 17 April 2009.
6 March 1789 given by Gene Zubrinsky, who writes, "James Carpenter and Lucy Bliss married at Rehoboth on 6 March (int. 15 Feb.) 1789.
Joseph Carpenter, first child of James and Lucy (Bliss) Carpenter, was born at Rehoboth on 8 September 1789."
26 Mar 1788 per the Carpenter Memorial. Note: Her first child Joseph would have been a 6 month pregnancy with the 1789 date and full term with the 1788 date. Is this why the other date was used? There is a definite need to confirm these dates.
SEE: image (pay wall)
Name: Lucy Bliss
Gender: Female
Spouse: James Carpenter
Marriage Date: 6 Mar 1789
City: Rehoboth
County: Bristol
Source: Family History Library, Salt Lake City, UT, Film # 0562559.
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Massachusetts, U.S., Compiled Marriages, 1633-1850 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005.
Original data: Dodd, Jordan, Liahona Research, comp. Massachusetts, Marriages, 1633-1850. With some noted exceptions all marriage records in this collection can be found at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah, and may be available through Family History Centers throughout the United States. See table below for information listed.
DEATH:
21 Sep 1817 per the Carpenter Memorial. Gene Zubrinsky writes, "Mrs. Lucy Carpenter, widow of James, died at Rehoboth on 24 September 1817, in her 45th year [sic] (Arnold, Vital Record of Rhode Island, 13:251 [from The Providence Gazette]). Although her age at death implies a birth year of about 1773, it's much closer to the birth date of Jonathan and Lydia (Wheeler) Bliss's daughter Lucy than to that of Abdiel and Lydia (Smith) Bliss's daughter Lucy."
Could the 21st be death date and the 24th be burial date?
Gene continues, "More significant, however, is that Jonathan Bliss (b. Rehoboth, 3 April 1767), son of Jonathan and Lucy (Wheeler) Bliss, married at Rehoboth on 5 November 1789, Sarah Martin. Born at Rehoboth less than two years later, on 22 August 1791, was James and Lucy (Bliss) Carpenter's second child, recorded as Sally Martin Carpenter. I you undoubtedly know, Sally was a nickname for Sarah.
While circumstantial, the evidence strongly suggests that James Carpenter's wife Lucy Bliss was born at Rehoboth on 23 June 1769, daughter of Jonathan and Lydia (Wheeler) Bliss.
All data above are from James N. Arnold, Vital Record of Rehoboth, 1642-1896 (Providence, 1897) except the one item for which I cite (in abbreviated form) his Vital Record of Rhode Island, 1636-1850, 21 vols. (Providence, 1891-1912)."
SEE: image (typed)
Name: Mrs Lucy Carpenter
Birth Date: abt 1773
Spouse Name: James Carpenter
Death Date: 24 Sep 1817
Death Place: Rehoboth
Death Age: 44
Page number: 251
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Rhode Island, U.S., Vital Extracts, 1636-1899 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
Original data: Arnold, James Newell. Rhode Island Vital Extracts, 1636–1850. 21 volumes. Providence, R.I.: Narragansett Historical Publishing Company, 1891–1912. Digitized images from New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, Massachusetts.
NOTE: Per image Vol. 13: Newspapers: Deaths
Carpenter ...
"Mrs. Lucy, widow of James, in 45th year, at Rehoboth. Sept. 24, 1817"
SEE ALSO: image (typed)
Name: Lucy Carpenter
Birth Date: abt 1772
Spouse Name: James Carpenter
Death Date: 21 Sep 1817
Death Place: Rehoboth
Death Age: 45
Page number: 29
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Rhode Island, U.S., Vital Extracts, 1636-1899 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
Original data: Arnold, James Newell. Rhode Island Vital Extracts, 1636–1850. 21 volumes. Providence, R.I.: Narragansett Historical Publishing Company, 1891–1912. Digitized images from New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, Massachusetts.
OBIT: image (typed)
Name: Mrs Lucy Carpenter
Birth Year: abt 1772
Event: Death
Spouse: James Carpenter
Death Date: Abt 1817
Death Place: Rehoboth
Age at Death: 45
Newspaper: Columbian Centinel
Publication Date: 29 Oct 1817
Publication Place: Massachusetts, USA
Call Number: 485704
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Newspaper Extractions from the Northeast, 1704-1930 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014. This collection was indexed by Ancestry World Archives Project contributors.
Original data: Newspapers and Periodicals. American Antiquarian Society, Worcester, Massachusetts.
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NOTE: per the typed image
"Carpenter, Lucy (Mrs.), relict of James Carpenter, d. in Charlestown, aged 45 yrs. (C.C. Oct 29, 1817)
GRAVE: images <---- one image has the birth of June 23, 1769 ... but this is a replacement marker typical of the early 1900s. There are no original markers there. It matches the DAR register in dates.
Lucy Bliss Carpenter
Birth: 23 Jun 1769 Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA
Death: 21 Sep 1817 (aged 48) Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA
Burial: Village Cemetery, Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA
Memorial #: 11002059
Gravesite Details Wife of James Carpenter. Other children include Sarah Martin, Lucy Bliss, James Jr. and Newton.
Family Members
Spouse
James Carpenter 1767-1812
Children
Joseph Carpenter 1789-1880
Rebecca Carpenter 1796-1810
Rosilla Carpenter 1799-1806
Created by: Karen (46487446)
Added: 21 May 2005
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/11002059/lucy-carpenter
Citation: Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 12 November 2019), memorial page for Lucy Bliss Carpenter (23 Jun 1769–21 Sep 1817), Find A Grave Memorial no. 11002059, citing Village Cemetery, Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts, USA ; Maintained by Karen (contributor 46487446) .
MISC:
E-MAIL:
From: Stacy M
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 6:39 PM
To: John R Carpenter
Subject: Some clarification on a specific Carpenter
...
Immediately following, on the next person on the next page, p. 112, lists his brother, Capt. Abdial Bliss. His Lucy is listed solely as b. 6 Jul 1763. There is NO mention of marriage, children, or death. However, it DOES state in Abdial’s bio “He had a large family, and removed to Vermont about 1798 with all except his eldest son, and died in C., June 10, 1805. He represented Calais in the Vermont Legislature, in 1800 and 1801.”
So could this also suggest that since he “took all but his eldest son” that HIS Lucy moved to Vermont with him??? Unfortunately, most Vermont records do not go that far back, and it seems they have transcribed every BLISS into BLINN due to the old handwriting. Either she went with or she does before hand, which I can’t find anything to confirm. But, according to this Bliss genealogy, sounds like it conformed Jonathan’s Lucy to be the bearer of James Carpenter’s 7 children. What do you think???
Have a great day,
Stacy Marti
COMMENT:
The mention of a 1798ish move to Vermont as described above has never been mentioned in the various discussions about Lucy Bliss and her 1789 marriage to James Carpenter. It seems to support the "strong suggestion" that Jonathon Bliss and Lydia Wheeler as the correct parents.
3587.
Peter Carpenter
Number 1882 on page 256 in the Carpenter Memorial.
Family on page (# 612). A farmer.
8446.
Elmira Carpenter
The 60th anniversary of their marriage was celebrated Friday
afternoon and evening March 19, 1880. They had many valuable
presents, among which was a purse to the value of $150.2 SOUR S203
3 TEXT pg 430
Edward Bliss
Of Rehoboth.