Descendants of the William Carpenters of the Bevis (1638)
Carpenter Cousins Encyclopedia of Carpenters - 2024 Update

Notes


3814. Noah Carpenter

Number 2067 on page 270 in the Carpenter Memorial.
Family on page 458 (# 661).  A farmer.


8979. John Carpenter

Number 4297 on page 458 in the Carpenter Memorial.
No family listed. Probably born in upstate New York or Ohio.

WEB PAGE: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoswego/townoswego/oswegocitizens.html
TOWN OF OSWEGO CITIZENS
     Information was obtained from the History of Oswego County, N. Y., 1789 -
1877, published by Everett & Ferriss, 1878.  It is a list of
     the "Names of Citizens, Who Assisted and Contributed Towards The
Publication of the History of Oswego County, with Personal
     Statistics."  For further information on any of the names, please contact
the local Historical Society or Town Historian.
CARPENTER, John, Retired Publisher, Oswego, b. Greene Co., NY., s. 1830, p.o.
add. Oswego City, Box 1308.  (Is it for this John?)


3815. Elijah Sharpe Carpenter

Resided in Homer, N.Y. - Living with brother Asaph in the 1850 US Census.


3816. Ephraim Carpenter

MARRIAGE: Possibly married twice.  Second marriage produced only one child,
name unknown, spouse name unknown.


8989. Milo Lorenzo Carpenter

He moved west to PA or IL.


3817. Dr. Joel R. Carpenter

Not proven in family.

CENSUS:  1850 US Census - Cortland county NY - SAME PERSON?
http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycortla/census/1850-c.htm
Carpenter, Joel R.
Listed on page 732, visitation 585, Town of Cortlandville:
Carpenter, Joel R., age 61, M, Physician, b. NH
Beulah, age 51, F, b. CT
Meriva, age 24, F, b. NY
Abigail, age 16, F, b. NY
Erathen, age 12, M, b. NY


3820. Eli Carpenter

CONFLICT:  I have 2 Eli Carpenters in Cortland county about the same time.  One from CT and the other from NH.  I have them both married to a Miriam or Marion or Mariva.  SEE: RIN 17789 (b. 1795) and RIN 88512 (b. 1793).

Not proven in family.
SEE:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycortla/smhist/shchap19a.htm
History of Homer from Smith's History part 2
The water power at this site is a very valuable one. In 1816 Eli Carpenter came from Tolland, Conn., purchased a share in the water privilege and lands contiguous thereto and put up a fulling-mill and facitities for dyeing and dressing cloth, with carding machine, etc. This establishment was very prosperous for several years and the business was further extended by Mr. Carpenter in the manufacture of carpets of brilliant color, dyed by himself. In the mean time Mr. Crandall's mills had become somewhat imipaired by age and about thebyear 1835 or1836, he became the sole owner of the site and water power, and proceeded to erect new mills. The business revived, but the domestic manufacture of cloth declined yearly and was eventually abandoned. The mills erected by Mr. Carpenter are still standing, but have been much enlarged and changed to meet the growing needs of the vicinity. A large businss is done in the manufacture of flour and feed and in the production of lumber. Alfred Utley succeeded Mr. Carpenter in the mills, following whom came the present proprietors, the Holmes brothers in the saw-mill, and the Cortland Wagon Company in the grist-mills, which are managed for the company by Wm. H. Moore. Mr. Carpenter was a man of energy and business ability and prospered in whatever he undertook. He was justice of the peace a number of times, and died in 1863.

CENSUS:  1850 US Census - Cortland county NY
http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycortla/census/1850-c.htm
Carpenter, Eli
Listed on page 622, visitation 923, Town of Homer:
Carpenter, Eli, age 56, M, Dyer, b. NH
Mariva, age 47, F, b. CT
M.M., age 29, F, b. NY
M.M.M., age 5mo, F, b. NY
H.L., age 18, M, Hunter, b. NY
Runsom, Maria, age 16, F, b. NY


8998. Lucy A. Carpenter

Not proven as child.
CENSUS:  1850 US Census - Cortland county NY
http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycortla/census/1850-c.htm
Carpenter, Lucy A.
Listed on page 760, visitation 805, Town of Cortlandville:
Carpenter, Lucy A., age 20, F, Student, b. Unknown

Note: Listed with Ezra Thompson, Stewart


3824. Asaph Harmon or Hammam Carpenter

Number 2071 in the Carpenter Memorial. Family on page 460 (# 664).
NAME: Asaph Harmon in the Carpenter Memorial but Asaph Hammam in the bible records below.  SEE: WEB PAGE.

Chapter XIX - HISTORY OF THE TOWN OF HOMER.
Noah Carpenter came in from Pomfret, Windham county, Connecticut and located on lot 16, north of the village. His son, Asaph H. Carpenter, was born during the journey of his parents from the East. He lived on the parental homestead until his death recently. Francis B. Carpenter, one of the eminent artists of the country, and a resident of New York City, is a son of A. H. SEE: Web Page at:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycortla/smhist/shchap19.htm

WEB PAGE:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycortla/biblerec/bible2.htm
for: Bible Records - Carpenter Bible - inherited by Joseph Knapp.
The entries below are from the Asaph Carpenter family bible, passed down to Joseph Knapp by his grandmother. Joseph is a descendant of this line. To see the actual bible pages, please follow the links at the bottom of the page.
Births:
Asaph Hammam Carpenter June 28, 1800
Almira Clark May 26, 1801
Helen Mar Carpenter May 17, 1828
Francis Bicknell Carpenter August 6, 1830
Clement Dewitt Carpenter May 30, 1832
Henrietta Sevensworth Carpenter February 21, 1834
William Wallace Carpenter November 21, 1835
Mary Elizabeth Carpenter October 2, 1838
Daniel Webster Carpenter May 17, 1841
Henry Clay Carpenter May 17, 1841
Marriages:
Asaph H. Carpenter and Almira Clark October 3, 1826
Francis B. Carpenter and Augusta H. Prentiss August 5, 1831
C. Dewitt Carpenter and Adaline A. Ball September 25, 1855
Helen M. Carpenter and Rufus S. Eells September 5, 1860
Deaths:
Henry Clay Carpenter September 16, 1842
William Wallace Carpenter July 17, 1863
       Wounded at Gettysburgh Pa July 1, 1863
Helen M. Eells, Homer, August 6, 1871
Mary E. Carpenter, New York, January 25, 1881
(Died at 107 West 44th St. where her brother Frank and family were boarding)

BURIAL:
See father's notes.
CARPENTER     Asaph H.     b. June 20 , 1800     d. October 18 , 1883

CENSUS:  1850 US Census - See image: RIN 17529 Asaph H Carpenter 1850 4196781_329.jpg
http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycortla/census/1850-c.htm
Carpenter, Asaph H.
Listed on page 577, visitation 565, Town of Homer:
Carpenter, Asaph H., age 49, M, Farmer, b. NY
Almira, age 50, F, b. CT
Helen M., age 22, F, b. NY
Clement D., age 18, M, Farmer, b. NY
Henrietta L.,a ge 16, F, b. NY
William W., age 14, M, b. NY
Mary E., age 11, F, b. NY
Daniel W., age 9, M, b. NY
Elijah S., age 57, M, Farmer, b. CT


Almira Clark

BURIAL:
CARPENTER     Almira Clark     wife of Asaph H.   B. May 26 , 1800     d. May 23 , 1885


8999. Helen Marr Carpenter

Number 4312 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 460.  No family listed in that record.


9002. Henrietta Leavenworth Carpenter

Number 4315 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 461.
BIRTH: 1 Feb 1834 in the CM and 21 Feb 1834 in another record.
NAME: Middle name "Leavenworth" per the CM and another record has it as
"Seaverworth."  See father's notes under WEB PAGE for bible records.


9003. William Wallace Carpenter

Number 4316 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 461.
How and where he died is not known per the CM.
Additional information provided, indicates he died of wounds in a Hospital in Gettysburg, PA.  Thus he served in the Union Army during the Civil War.  SEE: grandfather's notes for Bible records that indicate that William Wallace
Carpenter died July 17, 1863 due to wounds he received at Gettysburgh, Pa July 1, 1863.    Wounded in Action - Died of Wounds (D.O.W.)

CENSUS: 1850 US Census - see father's notes.
Name: William W Carpenter
Census place: Homer, Cortland, New York
Age: 14 years
Estimated birth year: 1836
Birthplace: New York
Gender: Male
Race or color (on document):
Race or color (expanded):
Death month:
Death date:
Film number: 17069
Digital GS number: 4196781
Image number: 00329
Reference number: 25
Dwelling: 518
Household id: 565
Marital status:
Free or slave:
Collection: United States Census, 1850


9004. Mary Elizabeth Carpenter

Number 4317 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 461.
DEATH: Mary E. Carpenter, New York, January 25, 1881
(Died at 107 West 44th St. where her brother Frank and family were boarding).


9006. Henry Clay Carpenter

Number 4319 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 461.
Died age 1 year and 4 months.

GRAVE:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=96590315
Henry Clay Carpenter
Birth:  unknown
Death:  Sep. 19, 1842
Family links:
Parents:
 Asaph H Carpenter (1800 - 1882)
 Almira Clark Carpenter (1800 - 1885)
Sibling:
 Henry Clay Carpenter (____ - 1842)
 Henrietta L Carpenter Hawley (____ - 1895)*
*Calculated relationship
Inscription:
Henry Clay,
Twin son of
A.H. & A. Carpenter
Died
Sept. 16, 1842
Aged 1 y'r & 4 m's.
Burial:
Glenwood Cemetery
Homer
Cortland County
New York, USA
Plot: Sec. 14, Lot 7

Created by: Carol Darling
Record added: Sep 05, 2012
Find A Grave Memorial# 96590315


3826. Isaac Carpenter

ISAAC the 2nd, IS LISTED AS # 11-2 TIMOTHY CARPENTER DESCENDANTS.  HE MARRIED
JANE PURDY, SISTER OF PETER PURDY.  JANE HAD 8 KIDS OF WHICH ONLY 4 ARE LISTED.
ISAAC WAS DEVISED 5 SHILLINGS FROM HIS FATHER'S WILL 4 DEC 1787 AND PROBATED
15 FEB 1806.  ISAAC SETTLED AT "AUSTIN FARM" AND MOVED WITH BROTHER JOSIAH TO CHAUTAUQUA COUNTY, N.Y. ABOUT 1816.  PROBABLY PURCHASED ORIGINAL TRACT (T-1, R-13, LOT 8) IN HARMONY TWP IN FEB. 1816.

A reunion record indicates that Jane was a sister to a Peter Purdy.  An old
record indicates daughter Phebe was 10 to 15 years older than Israel (second
son), that Anderson was the eldest son and Abraham was the youngest.
Isaac had 8 children, only four names given however.
8209001 24 BATCH AND SHEET 0884787 LIBRARY CALL Number

HARMONY & NORTH HARMONY
This synopsis incompasses both Harmony and North Harmony.
HARMONY was taken off from Chautauqua, Feb 14, 1816. A part of Busti was taken
off in 1823. It comprised townships 1 and 2 in range 13, together with two
tiers of lots in townships 1 and 2 in range 12, from PA line to Chautauqua
Lake, and two additional lots in township 2, 12th range, south of the lake,
which included the village of Ashville. Making it the largest town in the county.
NORTH HARMONY was taken off from Harmony on Jan 1, 1919. Due to this late date.
The pioneer information of these two towns remains combined for this synopsis.
Original Purchases in Harmony- Township 1, Range 13.
1811. Israel Carpenter, 8.
1816. Isaac Carpenter, 47. Elijah Terry, 7. Zaccheus Hurbut, 7.
1817. Clark C. Carpenter, 31. Joel Powers, 16.
1823. Cyrenus Glass, 23. David Tierce, 23. David Preston, 15. Elihu Carpenter,
28. Almon Lewis, 15.

LAND: See brother Josiah's notes under LAND:


9008. Phebe Carpenter

Number 50-3 in the Timothy Carpenter book.


3827. James Carpenter

BOOK- GENEALOGY: Charles Lorain Carpenter, Rear Admiral, USN-Ret.,
THE DESCENDANTS OF TIMOTHY CARPENTER OF PITTSTOWN, RENSSELAER CO., NEW YORK.
Published 1976 - 200 copies By: The News-Journal - P.O. Box 398 Machias, Maine
04654.  Page 87.  JAMES listed as 12-2.
Will: JAMES was devised 5 shillings in accordance of his father's will,
dated Dec. 4, 1787 and probated Feb. 15, 1806.
He married SUSANNA SUTHERLAND on or before 1772, with offspring. There
are various spellings of "SUSANNA".  I am using the spelling used on her will
executed April 19, 1812 and probated at Troy, N.Y. on Sept. 13, 1813.
SEE: 8209001 24 BATCH AND SHEET Number /  0884787 LIBRARY CALL Number.

LAND: See brother Josiah's notes under LAND:


Susanna Sutherland

BOOK:
GENEALOGY: Charles Lorain Carpenter, Rear Admiral, USN-Ret.,
THE DESCENDANTS OF TIMOTHY CARPENTER OF PITTSTOWN, RENSSELAER CO., NEW YORK. Published 1976 - 200 copies By: The News-Journal - P.O. Box 398 Machias, Maine
04654. Page 87.

PARENTS:
Agnes Sutherland and Bestsy _____.

WILL:
SUSANNA'S will was executed on 19 April 1812 and probated at Troy, N.Y.,
13 Sept. 1813 (Vol. 4, Pg. 419, courthoouse at Troy); friends NATHAN NICHOLS,
JONATHAN HALL AND HANNAH MOSHER were named executors.  The will mentions
second son FRANCIS, third son SILAS and his wife PHEBE, and youngest son, ELIHU
and his wife, PATIENCE.  Witnesses were ABRAHAM MOSHER, JONATHAN HALL and
HANNAH MOSHER.  Troy Monthly Meeting records indicate SUSANNA was very active
in the women's affairs there.  Some old records list her husband as JANE S.
instead of JAMES.


9012. Elizabeth Carpenter

NOTE: #58 in T. Carpenter book.


9014. Margaret Carpenter

NOTE: #60 in the T. Carpenter book.


9018. James Carpenter

NOTE: #64 in the T. Carpenter book.


3830. Phebe Carpenter

PHEBE is listed as # 15-3 in the book TIMOTHY CARPENTER DESCENDANTS.  She
married PETER PURDY in 1767. PHEBE is listed as PHOEBE in several old records.
PURDY issue listed on page 140.  SEE 8209001 25 BATCH AND SHEET Number then
0884787 LIBRARY CALL Number.

PHEBE was devised 5 shillings in accordance with her father's will, dated
12-4-1787 and probated 2-15-1806 inn Troy, N.Y.


Peter Purdy

PETER PURDY'S will, executed 2-2-1815 and probated 5-25-1816, is on file at
Troy, N.Y. (Vol. 5, P.322).  Son JAMES was named executor; will mentions wife,
PHEBE, sons STEPHEN, SILAS, JAMES & JOSIAH (deceased), and married daughters
BETSEY (SLY) & HANNAH (PURDY); witnesses were WILLIAM AUSTIN, NATHAN NICHOLAS
and NICHOLAS EYCLESHMEN.


9019. Elizabeth Purdy

ELIZABETH married a Mr. SLY.  NFD - 1976.


9022. Hannah Purdy

HANNAH married a Mr. PURDY, a relative.  NFD - 1976.


9025. James Purdy

JAMES is recorded to have died 2-4-1870 on page 140 of the T. Carpenter book.
However, on the same page it indicates he is deceased before 2-2-1815 per his
father's will.
On page 56 of the same record, under 244-4, "In the 1860 census is an uncle,
James Purdy, age 80."


3832. Josiah Carpenter

BATCH 8209001 SHEET 25, LCN FOR SOURCE DOCUMENT 0884787

BOOK- GENEALOGY: Charles Lorain Carpenter, Rear Admiral, USN-Ret.,
THE DESCENDANTS OF TIMOTHY CARPENTER OF PITTSTOWN, RENSSELAER CO., NEW YORK.
Published 1976 - 200 copies By: The News-Journal - P.O. Box 398 Machias, Maine
04654. - JOSIAH is listed as 17-2.  Much detailed information in that record.
See also 913,004 Carpenter Family, Item 2: Vol. 140 - Page 29 (NY State) which
has microfilmed bible records of Josiah's family.

BOOK:
Number 17-2  in the Timothy Carpenter book.
PROBATE-FATHER: JOSIAH WAS NAMED ONE OF THREE EXECUTORS OF HIS FATHER'S
(TIMOTHY) WILL, DATED 12-4-1787 AND PROBATED 2-15-1806.  JOSIAH WAS DEVISED
THE SOUTH-WESTERN PORTION OF HIS FATHERS FARM, ACCORDING TO METES AND BOUNDS
SET FORTH IN THE WILL.

OCCUPATION: JOSIAH SERVED IN THE REVOLUNTIONARY WAR ON TWO OCCASIONS.  THE
NATIONAL ARCHIVES, WASHINGTON, D.C., AND THE HISTORICAL SECTION, NEW YORK STATE
ARCHIVES, ALBANY, CONTAIN DATA INDICATING HE WAS A PRIVATE IN CAPT. CORNELIUS
WILTSE'S CO., COL. YATES' 14TH ALBANY REGT., FORMED FROM THE
HOOSICK-SCHAGHTICOKE AREA.  A MUSTER ROLL DATED 3-27-1780 SHOWED HE SERVED FROM
3-25-1780 TO 3-27-1780.  ANOTHER MUSTER IN 1785 (DATE BURNED OFF) INDICATED HE
RECEIVED A PAY CERTIFICATE FOR SIX SHILLINGS, TEN PENCE.

MILITARY: 1776
Name: Josiah Carpenter
Residence Date: 1776
Residence Place: Albany, New York, United States
Comments: Fourteenth Regiment
Source Citation
New York in the Revolution as Colony and State, Vol. I - Extracts; Publication Place: Albany, New York; Publisher: J. B. Lyon Co.; Publication Year: 1904; Page Number: 125
Source Information
Ancestry.com. New York, Genealogical Records, 1675-1920 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004.
Original data:
For individual sources please see the source information listed with each record. Many of the source documents are available in the Genealogical Research Library collection or at the Family History Library.

NOTE: JAMES' PERSONAL BILE IN POSSESION OF MRS. VERNITA (GREEN) KVASHAY
OF SUGARTOWN, PA IN 1964, WHICH CONTAINED VITAL DATA.
Copy of which is microfilmed; 913,004 CARPENTER FAMILY Item 2: Vol. 140 New
York State - Page 29. The following diferences are noted: 1) JOSIAH born 10
April 1756 instead of 20 April, 2) SARAH born 11 Mar 1766 instead of 12 Mar,
3) Son DANIEL spelled DANNEL, 4) ISAAC born 11 Feb 1793 instead 10 Feb, 5)
Daughter JAMINA spelled JAMIMA C. born 7 Jun 1795 instead of 4 Jun, and
6) SALLY born 10 Apr 1802 instead 16 Apr.

PROBATE: JOSIAH'S WILL EXECUTED 12-15-1815 AND PROBATED 11-27-1819 AT
MAYVILLE, N.Y..

Harmony History from web site:
at:http://www.rootsweb.com/~nychauta/HISTORY/HISTORY.HTM
CARPENTER family- Josiah came from Pittstown, Rensselaer Co., NY in 1808 and
bought 1,000 acres. He bought Lots 55,56, 64 lying from 1-2 miles Southwest from Ashville.  His son James settled on part (lot 56) of this land in 1808- James and young wife stayed first in Thomas Bemus cabin, where son was born that year- first birth in town. In 1811, Josiah returned and built a home on Lot 64.  He came with with 4 sons- Daniel B., Isaac, Josiah Jr, and Timothy- his 7 daus md respectively: Israel Carpenter, Orange Phelps,
Gilbert Ward, Oliver Pier, Samuel Green and Henry Hosier- Mary was unmarried.
MORE:
The first town meeting for election of officers was held in 1816- No record of
those elected is available. Although Palmer Phillips is recorded as
representing town at suprvisors meetings.
On April 1, 1817 the following were elected officers:
Supervisor- Palmer Phillips Town Clerk- Orange Phelps Assessors- Wm. Matteson,
Daniel B. Carpenter, Joseph S. Pember. Com'rs of Highways- Palmer Phillips,
Wm. Matteson, D.B. Carpenter. Com'rs of Schools- Palmer Phillips, Joseph
Pember, Orange Phelps. Collector- Wm. Matteson Jr. Canstables- Noah Chapman,
Wm. Matteson Jr. Overseers of Poor- Obadiah Morely, Israel Carpenter. Pound
Masters- Wm. Matteson, Israel Carpenter, Josiah Palmeter. Fence Viewers-
Thomas Bemus, Nicholas Webber, Timothy Jenner. Sealer- Jonas Lamphear.
The first saw-mill was built by Reuben Slayton Jr. in Ashville, in 1811- to
which a grist-mill was soon added. Israel Carpenter, with Oliver Pier and
Stephen Groom built about 1820 a saw-mill and grist-mill at Blockville. A saw-mill was built
around 1825 by Francis W. Mather- 3 miles south of Panama. Isaac Carpenter
built a mill in 1828 a mile below Blockville. A saw-mill was also built by Harvey and
Theron Bly in 1847 on Goose Creek.

LAND:
http://matteson.us/mattesons_in_chautauqua_ny.shtml
HARMONY
Original Purchases in Harmony.—Township 1, Range 13. ... ... Township 1, Range 12. 1808. July, Josiah Carpenter, 55, 56, 64. ... 1823. December, Silas Carpenter, 54. Isaac Foster, 54. 1825. October, Reuben Benedict, 63. November, Truman Terry, 62. December, Heman S. Matteson, 62. Josiah Carpenter, 61. ...
The earliest settlements in the town of Harmony, were made in that part of it which lies in the 12th range. The first settlement in this town is said, in the State Gazetteer, to have been made by Reuben Slayton, from Otsego Co., in 1806, on lot 43; Daniel B. Carpenter, the same year, on lot 64:Jonathan Cheney, on lot 52, in 1807; Theron Bly, from Otsego Co., on lot 44, and Wm. Matteson on lot 52, both in 181 1; and James Carpenter on lot 56, in 1816. This statement is not only very indefinite, but in nearly every particular incorrect. There are in Harmony three lots with each of the numbers 43, 44, 52, 56, and 64, namely: one in each of the two entire townships in range 13, and one in the strip from range 12. The dates of settlement, above mentioned, are believed to be misstated in the case of every person named, except one. (Pg. 431)
In 1810, came Thomas Matteson; also Wm. Matteson, Jr., and his brother Estys, who were followed in 1811 by their father, Wm. Matteson, Sr., who died in 1858, in his 99th year. He was the last surviving Revolutionary pensioner in this county; having served, when quite young, during the last two years of the war. His son Victor M.[Matteson], and daughter Mehetabel, [ne Matteson] widow of Isaac Carpenter, are the only surviving children living in this county. _ James Carpenter, as will be seen hereafter, came seven years earlier than the year stated in the Gazetteer. (Pg. 432)
In the east part of the town. . . John H. Matteson settled on lot 62, near where his son Elisha [Matteson] resides. (Pg. 433)
The annual town-meeting was held at Eleazar Fletcher's, April 1, 1817,when the following officers were elected: Supervisor—Palmer Phillips. Town Clerk—Orange Phelps. Assessors— Wm. Matteson, Daniel B. Carpenter, Joseph S. Pember. Cofn'rs of Highways— Palmer Phillips, Wm. Matteson, Daniel B. Carpenter. Corners of Schools—Palmer Phillips, Joseph S. Pember, Orange Phelps. Collector— Wm. Matteson, Jr. Constables—Noah Chapman, Wm. Matteson, Jr. Over-seers of Poor—Obadiah Morley, Israel Carpenter. Poundmasters— Wm. Matteson, Israel Carpenter, Josiah Palmeter. Fence Viewers—Thomas Bemus, Nicholas Webber, Timothy Jenner. Sealer—Jonas Lamphear. (Pg. 436)

CENSUS: 1800 US Census
Name: Jonah Carpenter
[Josiah Carpenter]
Home in 1800 (City, County, State): Pittstown, Rensselaer, New York
Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 1
Free White Persons - Males -10 thru 15: 2
Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44: 1
Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 3
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25: 2
Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44: 1
Number of Household Members Under 16: 7
Number of Household Members Over 25: 2
Number of Household Members: 11
Source Citation
Year: 1800; Census Place: Pittstown, Rensselaer, New York; Series: M32; Roll: 26; Page: 50; Image: 53; Family History Library Film: 193714
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1800 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: Second Census of the United States, 1800. NARA microfilm publication M32 (52 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
Second Census of the United States, 1800: Population Schedules, Washington County, Territory Northwest of the River Ohio; and Population Census, 1803: Washington County, Ohio. NARA microfilm publication M1804 (1 roll).

CENSUS: 1810 US Census
Name: Josiah Carpenter
Home in 1810 (City, County, State): Pittstown, Rensselaer, New York
Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 2
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25: 2
Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over: 1
Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25: 3
Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over : 1
Number of Household Members Under 16: 4
Number of Household Members Over 25: 2
Number of Household Members: 11
Source Citation
Year: 1810; Census Place: Pittstown, Rensselaer, New York; Roll: 35; Page: 403; Image: 00058; Family History Library Film: 0181389
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1810 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: Third Census of the United States, 1810. (NARA microfilm publication M252, 71 rolls). Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.

GRAVE:  image
Josiah Carpenter
Birth: 20 Apr 1756
Death: 21 Jan 1818 (aged 61)
Burial: Blockville Union Burial Ground, Blockville, Chautauqua County, New York, USA
Memorial #: 10359614
Bio: Josiah was the third son of nine children born to Timothy and Elizabeth (Anderson) Carpenter, and grandson to Timothy and Experience (Chaffee) Carpenter of Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts.

Josiah married Sarah Benedict in 1781 in Pittstown Township, Rensselaer County, New York. The lovely couple were blessed with twelve children: Phebe, Hannah, James, Daniel Benedict, Mary, Isaac, Jemima, Betsey, Sallie, Jane, Josiah, Jr.,  and Timothy.

Josiah served in the Revolutionary War on two separate occasions. The National Archives, Washington DC, as well as the Historical Section, New York State Archives, Albany, New York, contains data which indicates that Josiah was a Private and served in Captain Cornelius Wiltse's Company, Colonel Yates' 14th Albany Regiment which formed from the Hoosick-Schaghticoke area.

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Chautauqua County Wills
Vol. I, pg. 77

Will of JOSIAH CARPENTER
Chautauqua, Chautauqua County, New York
Signed with mark, 25 Dec 1815.
Court: 3 Mar 1819

One-third of estate to wife Sarah Carpenter. $1 to daughter Phebe Ward wife of Gilbert Ward. $1 to daughter Hannah wife of Israel Carpenter. $1 to daughter Mary Carpenter, single woman. $1 to daughter Jemima Phelps wife of Orange Phelps. $1 to daughter Betsey Peer wife of Oliver Peer. $1 each and bedding to daughter Sally Carpenter, single woman, and Jane Carpenter, single woman. Land and stock to son James Carpenter and son Daniel B. Carpenter. Land to son Isaac Carpenter. $1 each to son Josiah Carpenter and son Timothy Carpenter.

Administrator: Sarah Carpenter, Daniel B. Carpenter, Isaac Carpenter

Witnesses: Joseph L. Pember, Benjamin Gates, Harvey Pember

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Early Settlers of Chautauqua County, New York

CARPENTER Family - Josiah came from Pittstown, Rensselaer Co., NY in 1808 and bought 1,000 acres. His son James settled on part of this land in 1808- James and young wife stayed first in Thomas Bemus cabin, where son was born that year- first birth in town. In 1811, Josiah returned with 4 sons- Daniel B., Isaac, Josiah Jr, and Timothy- his 7 daus md respectively: Israel Carpenter, Orange Phelps, Gilbert Ward, Oliver Pier, Samuel Green and Henry Hosier- Mary was unmarried.

MATTESON Family - Wm. Jr. and Estys, brothers, came in 1810- their father Wm. Sr. in 1811,(died 1858 in his 99th year), with son Victor- dau Mehetable md to Isaac Carpenter.
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Recorded in The Descendants of Timothy Carpenter of Pittstown, Rensselaer Co., New York, [pg. 103-104]
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A special thank you to Kathy Sloan for originally creating this memorial and transferring ownership to us, the Carpenter family, so that we could personalize it.

Gravesite Details Revolutionary War Star
Family Members
Spouse
Sarah Benedict Carpenter                 1766-1816
Children
Phoebe Carpenter Ward                 1782-1868
Hannah H. Carpenter Carpenter                 1784-1871
Daniel B. Carpenter                 1788-1861
Mary Carpenter                 1790-1861
Isaac Carpenter                 1793-1851
Betsey Carpenter Pier                 1797-1878
Josiah Carpenter                 1804-1877
Timothy Carpenter                 1806-1878
Maintained by: M'Lady (46821766)
Originally Created by: Kathy Sloan (46775251)
Added: 22 Jan 2005
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/10359614/josiah-carpenter
Citation: Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 24 January 2021), memorial page for Josiah Carpenter (20 Apr 1756–21 Jan 1818), Find a Grave Memorial no. 10359614, citing Blockville Union Burial Ground, Blockville, Chautauqua County, New York, USA ; Maintained by M'Lady (contributor 46821766) .

ANCESTRY:  bucherdeTree  by Denise Bucher
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/53086959/person/60000878291/facts

Ancestry Sources
1800 United States Federal Census
1810 United States Federal Census
Ancestry Family Trees
Millennium File
New York, Genealogical Records, 1675-1920
New York, Tax Assessment Rolls of Real and Personal Estates, 1799-1804
New York, Tax Assessment Rolls of Real and Personal Estates, 1799-1804
New York, Wills and Probate Records, 1659-1999
U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Web: New York, Find A Grave Index, 1660-2012
Other Sources
Page 2 Revolutionary War Service Records - Fold3
Page 2 Revolutionary War Service Records - Fold3

Parents
Timothy CARPENTER  1715–1806
Elizabeth Anderson  1719–1761

Spouse & Children
Sarah Benedict  1766–1816
Daniel Benedict Carpenter  1778–1861
Phebe Carpenter  1782–1867
Hannah H CARPENTER  1784–1871
James Carpenter  1786–1838
Mary Carpenter  1790–1861
Isaac Carpenter  1793–1851
Jemima H Carpenter  1795–1874
Betsey Carpenter  1797–1878
Sallie Carpenter   1799–1833
Mary Carpenter   1802–1833
Jane Carpenter   1802–1874
Jemima C Carpenter  1802–1874
Josiah Carpenter  1804–1877
Timothy Carpenter  1806–1878


Sarah Benedict

SARAH DID NOT MARRY A JOESPH CARPENTER BUT JOSIAH CARPENTER.
SOME RECORDS LIST 14 MAR AS BIRTH DATE BUT JOSIAH'S BIBLE LISTS IT AS 12 MAR.
Checking microfilmed Bible has the date as 11 Mar 1766.  12 Mar may be calandar adjusted.

SARAH DIED BEFORE HER HUSBAND'S WILL WAS PROBATED 11-27-1819 AT MAYVILLE
NY.    (VOL. "ZERO" OF MISCELLANEOUS RECORDS. P. 78)- 12-15-1815 WILL WRITTEN
      *** SEE PAGE 103 OF TIMOTHY CARPENTER DESCENDANTS

SARAH WAS A DAUGHTER OF THOMAS AND JANE (GUNN) BENEDICT.  HER FATHER WAS A
BAPTIST MINISTER.  SEE BENEDICT GENEALOGY, PAGE 67.

GRAVE: images
Sarah Benedict Carpenter
Birth: 18 Mar 1766 Ridgefield, Fairfield County, Connecticut, USA
Death: 9 Sep 1816 (aged 50)
Burial: Blockville Union Burial Ground, Blockville, Chautauqua County, New York, USA
Memorial #: 10359624
Gravesite Details w/o Josiah Carpenter
Family Members
Parents
Thomas Benedict                 1726-1785
Jane Gunn Benedict                 1726-1785
Spouse
Josiah Carpenter                 1756-1818
Siblings
Thomas Benedict                 1753-1841
Aaron Benedict                 1755-1845
Joseph Benedict                 1760-Unknown
James Benedict                 1762-1849
Isaac Oliver Benedict                 1763-1845
Children
Phoebe Carpenter Ward                 1782-1868
Hannah H. Carpenter Carpenter                 1784-1871
Daniel B. Carpenter                 1788-1861
Mary Carpenter                 1790-1861
Isaac Carpenter                 1793-1851
Jemima Carpenter Phelps                 1795-1874
Betsey Carpenter Pier                 1797-1878
Josiah Carpenter                 1804-1877
Timothy Carpenter                 1806-1878
Maintained by: M'Lady (46821766)
Originally Created by: Kathy Sloan (46775251)
Added: 22 Jan 2005
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/10359624/sarah-carpenter
Citation: Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 24 January 2021), memorial page for Sarah Benedict Carpenter (18 Mar 1766–9 Sep 1816), Find a Grave Memorial no. 10359624, citing Blockville Union Burial Ground, Blockville, Chautauqua County, New York, USA ; Maintained by M'Lady (contributor 46821766) .


9030. Mary Carpenter

MARY IS LIVING WITH HER BROTHER (Daniel) BENEDICT (# 75) IN THE HARMONY 1850 CENSUS OF
NEW YORK.  1855 CENSUS LISTS HER AGE AS 65 AND BORN IN RENSSELAER COUNTY.
BURIED IN THE SAMUEL GREEN PLOT IN PIONEER CEM.
Number 76-3 in the Timothy Carpenter book.
!8212607 3 BATCH AND SHEET Number
0884810 LIBRARY CALL Number

Microfilm 913,004 item 2, pg 29 (Carpenter Bible) gives birth date as
4 Mar 1790.

CENSUS: 1860 US Census - Living with brother Daniel B. Carpenter. Both siblings would die within a year.


3833. Mahab Carpenter

MAHAB is number 18-2 in the book TIMOTHY CARPENTER DESCENDANTS.  She married
WILLIAM STANTON and had children.  WILLIAM STANTON is NOT listed in the STANTON
GENEALOGY.
MAHAB was devised 5 shillings in accordance with her father's will, dated
12-4-1787 and probated 2-15-1806.  Family Tradition records her son BENJAMIN
STANTON probably was the grandfather of EDWIN STANTON, President LINCOLN'S
Secretary of War.  Research (1976) on the STANTON line does not substantiate
this family folklore.


William Stanton

SEE WIFE'S NOTES.


9040. Carpenter Stanton

Yes, this person was known as CARPENTER STANTON.


9041. Stanton Stanton

Yes, Really!  This person was known as STANTON STANTON.  I had a hard time
accepting it also.


3835. Jeremiah Carpenter

This line updated by John Laird via email < johnlarid9@aol.com  > in  May 2013.

2013 UPDATE.  See 25 May 2013 email below and Carpenter Executive Summary also below.
SEE: Under Articles subfolder & BOOK: Timothy Carpenter's Descendants - Jeremiah Carpenter 2013 Update:
RIN 0065 Jeremiah Carpenter - Family_Chronicle_Article_draft.doc
SEE: Under BOOKS subfolder - Timothy Carpenter's Descendants - Jeremiah Carpenter 2013 Update:
Jeremiah Carpenter Register Report - Jan 27 2013.jpg  (See below also)

2014 UPDATE:  With the TC Descendants book, under the subfolder JC 2013 Update is the final Family Chronicle article and Reister report.  See E-MAIL dated 3 May 2014 below.

JEREMIAH is listed as 19-2 TIMOTHY CARPENTER DESCENDANTS.  He married a JANE SHEARS who died prior to 1810. SECOND MARRIAGE to MRS. MARY HARMON, A WIDOW.

Issue by first wife only.  The widow had one child (ELIOT) from her previous marriage.
He was devised the remainder of his father's estate, as to moveables, as per will dated 4 DEC 1787 and probated at Troy, N.Y. on 15 FEB 1806.

He served in the Revolutionary War with the 14th Albany Regt. of NY.  The REVOLTIONARY WAR APPLICATION on record is in the files of the NATIONAL ARCHIVES in WASHINGTON DC, but he died before receiving final action.

Page 95 lists his service record and attempts by his widows to collect a War pension.  He resided in Wales, Erie county since 1818 to be near his sons and probably died there.
JEREMIAH'S gravestone was in a deterioated, undecipherable condition in 1968 when visited by the compiler of T. Carpenter Descendants, and even worse condition in 1974.

His gravesite is being registered with the National Cemetery System, Veterans Administration, Washington, D.C. 20420, in an attempt to obtain a new grave marker for the site.  Please see Page 94 and 95 for more details (in the T. Carpenter book).

GRAVE: See image: RIN 0065 Jeremiah Carpenter GRAVE.jpg
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=28440351
Jeremiah Carpenter
Birth: Aug. 28, 1760
Death: Nov. 20, 1840 Inscription: A Soldier of The Revolution Burial: Marilla Cemetery Marilla Erie County New York, USA Created by: Donna Ruhland Bonning Record added: Jul 21, 2008 Find A Grave Memorial# 28440351

E-MAIL:  Thu, 11 Jan 2001
From:  "bonbon"
Dear John:
I just noticed that you mentioned that your CD is in the final stage.  I
had no idea you were that far along.  I would appreciate it very much if
you would make a comment in my lineage.  As you know I have found some
errors in Charles L. Carpenter's book "Descendants of Timothy Carpenter."
I sent you one of the corrections.  I am still working on the next
generation.  My line goes as follows:
                       1)  Bonnie J. Shanklin Huser
                       2)  Mary J. Carpenter Shanklin
                       3)  Frank Carpenter
                       4)  William Carpenter
                       5)  William Carpenter
                       6)  Jeremiah Carpenter (possibly).  I am still working on this line.
I have proven that (#5) William Carpenter migrated to Wales, Erie Co., New
York from Pompey, Onondago Co., New York in 1811.  He was the first
Carpenter to purchased land from the Holland Land Company and settle in the
Wales area.  I have proof up to this transaction.  However, I also believe
that Charles L. Carpenter has many  mistakes in that next generation.  I
have about 30 wills for all the Carpenters in the Wales, Erie Co., NY area.
I believe my William is the son of Jeremiah Carpenter.  In William, Sr.'s
probate will there is mention of Abraham Carpenter, Harriet Carpenter,
Lydia Carpenter, Joseph Carpenter, and George W. Carpenter.
Would you please note in this generation there are possible errors if you
are using the data from Charles L. Carpenter's book.
Thanking you.  Please advise. Bonnie Huser.

E-MAIL2:
From:
To:
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 8:37 PM
Subject: [CARPENTER] Sylvanus Carpenter
> The post to the Carpenter list yesterday by Jack Frosty about the ancestry of
> Sylvanus Carpenter, cites past sources that list three possible fathers for
> him -- Jeremiah, Joseph, or Copeland Carpenter, all listed as sons of
> Jeremiah Carpenter, son of Timothy Carpenter of Pittstown in Rensselaer
> County, New York -- featured in the Charles Lorain Carpenter book about
> Timothy and his descendants. Yesterday's post suggests that while Sylvanus
> was originally listed as a descendant of Joseph, he now should be considered
> possibly a descendant of Copeland -- as Joseph and Jeremiah Jr. don't seem to
> fit.
>
> I am a descendant of Joseph, who died in 1869 in McHenry County, Illinois.
> Joseph left a will that does not include Sylvanus -- but does list nine other
> children still living at the time of his death.  Jeremiah Jr., shown in New
> York through the 1855 state census and was in Fillmore County, Minnesota by
> the 1860 federal census -- and appears to have had three sons, Warren, Niles,
> and William.  Sylvanus never appears to have been with him.  The only
> Copeland Carpenter shown in New York records is  John Copeland Carpenter, son
> of Jeremiah Sr.'s son George W., born about 1823.  The only one of his three
> known children that was a son was Henry, born ca 1856.  Sylvanus does not
> appear to be tied into this line.  All of Jeremiah's male children seem to
> have moved to Erie County by the 1820's from Onondaga County, New York -- and
> there is no Solomon, listed as Sylvanus' father, in this line.
>
> The Charles L. Carpenter book is, with regard to Copeland and Niles being
> sons of the original Jeremiah, quite probably in error.  There is no record
> of either in any New York records that place them at an age that would make
> them old enough to be sons of Jeremiah.  Copeland was Jeremiah's grandson by
> George W., and Niles was his grandson by Jeremiah, Jr.  I have text notes on
> these families if anyone is interested, and believe that Sylvanus must be of
> another entire Carpenter line.  I'd be happy to consider any alternative
> theories about what I've said, but I believe it's the best analysis of the
> facts I have.  I'm pleased it was brought up on the list, because there's
> been no where to post this information about this issue.
> John Laird

E-MAIL:
From: johnlaird9 > To: jrcrin001 > Sent: Sat, May 25, 2013 2:43 pm Subject: Carpenter Update
John - I have been in touch with you over the years, as I descend from the Timothy Carpenter line through his son - the Revolutionary War veteran Jeremiah Carpenter - who lived in Dutchess, Rennselear, Onondaga, and Erie Counties in New York from 1760 to his death in 1840. Charles L. Carpenter's book on Timothy Carpenter and descendants, and some records submitted also for your Carpenter encyclopedia, are not correct as to Jeremiah's family. You responded to one of my requests to correct the record by indicating that only completing a GEDCOM file would do the trick. I, and two other Carpenter researchers, have done just that. The Register Report is attached for Jeremiah, his correct children, and the next four generations. There is also an executive summary on the proving of the children. There is also a companion document - not attached - that has 225 pages of the raw documentation, the recording of every known record for those early generations. I would hope that you would include the attached documents in any future Carpenter encyclopedias. The incorrect information is all over the internet, and I am going to try some ways to see if we can get the correct version out. Any advice you have would be welcomed. This is a truly monumental research effort, and one that has followed the best practices in researching and presenting the information. Thanks for your consideration. I would be happy to answer any questions. John Laird Santa Cruz, CA
CARPENTER EXECUTIVE SUMMARY:
Jeremiah Carpenter Revolutionary War Veteran and His Family -
Executive Summary

Overview. Jeremiah Carpenter was a Revolutionary War veteran from New York who lived from 1760 to 1840 in Duchess, Rensselear, Onondaga, and Erie Counties in New York.  He was one of the children of Timothy Carpenter and Elizabeth Anderson - who descended from early Carpenters in Massachusetts and Rhode Island.

Jeremiah was chronicled in the 1976 book that Charles Lorain Carpenter compiled, “The Descendants of Timothy Carpenter of Pittstown, Rensselaer County, New York”, a valuable genealogical resource.  However, the book is not correct about the ages and members of Jeremiah’s family, but has been picked up without question and posted on Internet and family tree websites.  This summary will briefly set forth the facts contained in a long companion research document that proves the correct members of Jeremiah’s family - a family that is different from that listed in the Charles L. Carpenter book.

Linking Jeremiah to his children is difficult because Jeremiah left no probate, he was not in any property transactions in the last twenty-five years of his life, there is no marriage record that appears to exist for either of his marriages, his revolutionary war pension record lists only his second wife Mary and mentions none of his children, and he lived during a time when U. S. census records did not name people but only listed them by age.

This necessitates more focused research using any fact that can be gleaned from other sources.  These sources suggest five known children for Jeremiah - with the link for each based on unique sets of facts.  There is a likelihood of as many as four additional female children - who could have married and remain unknown because of the absence of marriage and probate records for Jeremiah and his family members.

This summary seeks to briefly demonstrate the facts on who Jeremiah’s children really were.  A much longer text document compiles all available information from census, probate, marriage, property, cemetery, and other records - starting with Rev. War veteran Jeremiah Carpenter and his children, with an especially large section on his son Joseph and family, my ancestral line.  Information will also be listed about Carpenters in the immediate areas where our Carpenters were, with the presumption that some can eventually be placed with the family somehow, or used to separate them from our own if that is the case.  There is also a brief section on Jeremiah's ancestry.

I also have been in touch with other Carpenter descendants who are researching this line, and they have been incredibly skilled and helpful in this research.  I have mentioned them in the narrative for the contributions they had made, and for where they connect.

Proving Jeremiah’s Children

The place to start this discussion is with the Charles Lorain Carpenter book on the descendants of Jeremiah’s father, Timothy Carpenter. Charles L. Carpenter lists ten children for Jeremiah.  He lists eight children by name: Jeremiah Jr. (1783); Joseph (1785); Copeland (1787); Niles (1789); John (1791); William R. (1793); Nancy (1795); and George Washington (February 2, 1801).  He listed a ninth unknown female as born in 1797, and a tenth child with no gender or birth year listed.

I believe there are five known children of Jeremiah and Jane - Nancy, William, Joseph Jeremiah Jr., and George W.  Based on later census and tombstone information where it exists - Nancy was born ca 1782/83; William ca 1784; Joseph ca 1789/1790; Jeremiah Jr. ca 1795/1798; and George W. ca 1800/1801.  There are as many as four other unnamed female children.

It is safe to assume that any children that Jeremiah and Jane had who lived past childbirth were listed in the 1790, 1800, 1810, or 1820 censuses.  Jeremiah and Jane probably married in the 1780 time frame, and Jane was dead by Jeremiah’s remarriage ca 1816.  I’ll recount those four censuses:

1790. Jeremiah Carpenter is shown in Pittstown, then in Albany County, in the 1790 census with one male over sixteen (Jeremiah), two under sixteen (Joseph and William), and three females (Jane, Nancy, and an unidentified third female).

1800. The 1800 census listing for Jeremiah (shown as “Jedediah” in the actual record) in Pompey, Onondaga County shows a man and woman between twenty-six and forty-five (Jeremiah and Jane); one female between sixteen and twenty-six (Nancy); two males and one female between ten and sixteen (Joseph, William, and one unknown female); and two females and one male under ten (Jeremiah Jr. and two unknown females).

1810. The 1810 census listing for Jeremiah in Pompey, Onondaga County, shows one man and one woman over the age of forty-five (Jeremiah and Jane), one woman between sixteen and twenty-six (Nancy reportedly had a son in December, so was probably married and out of the house - she was over twenty-six this year, so this appears to be one of the unknown girls from 1800), one man and one woman between ten and sixteen (Jeremiah Jr. and the other unknown girl from 1810), and one boy and one girl each under the age of ten George W. and unknown  girl).  William and Joseph had their own entries in the 1810 census.  I have yet to find a listing for Pardon Case and Nancy in this census - but as stated it is likely they were out of this house, and their three person family in this year does not fit into this census entry.

1820. Jeremiah Carpenter is shown in the 1820 census in Wales, in Niagara County (pre-Erie County, Erie was formed in this location in 1821), with a man over forty-five (Jeremiah), a woman between twenty-six and forty-five (second wife Mary, who was born ca 1793-94 according to her 1854 pension filing), one man and one woman between sixteen and twenty-six (George W. and unknown woman), and two boys under ten (Elliot, Mary’s son, and unknown second boy).  William, Jeremiah Jr. and Joseph - as well as Pardon Case and Nancy - each have their own entries nearby in the 1820 census.

These census entries together with facts from other records clearly identify the five children of Jeremiah and Jane:

1) Nancy is linked by a number of researchers, and is shown in Erie County in the 1855 census with a Carpenter, her son was named Jeremiah (and according to Charles Carpenter he was named Jeremiah Carpenter Case), one of her two daughters was named Jane (her mother’s name) and her county of birth was shown in a census record as Rensselaer.

2) William was in Erie and Onondaga Counties at the right place and time.  His 1810 Onondaga census entry is with a cluster with our Carpenters.  George W. Carpenter’s 1882 obituary shows that he walked from Pompey to Wales ca 1813 and lived with his brother William there until 1822.  William was in a deed with a nephew of Jeremiah in 1816 in pre-Erie Niagara County.  His wife Polly is shown with him in the 1816 deed.  Philo lists his father’s birth (John Carpenter, oldest son of William) as in Pompey Hill in 1808, placing this William there.  William died intestate in 1827 in Erie County, listing widow Polly and five children.  His wife Polly Carpenter remarried Stephen Searles, as stated in his obituary years later.  Stephen is shown to have two stepchildren, Lydia and William.  The death certificates of both in Michigan list William Carpenter and Polly Cobb as their parents.  John Carpenter, son of William, is shown in the 1830 census in Erie County next to Stephen Searles.

3) Joseph’s 1869 will in McHenry County, Illinois ties him to nine children.  His daughter Viletta, tied to him by his will, died in Illinois in 1879 where her death record lists that she was born in Pompey, Onondaga County, New York in 1814.  Joseph’s oldest son was named Jeremiah, and showed Onondaga County as the County of his birth.  Joseph was listed as his father Jeremiah’s agent in 1818.  Joseph is listed in deed records with fellow family members in Erie County.  A biography of Joseph’s son David in a Wisconsin county history lists his father as Joseph and places him outside of Buffalo in 1827 when David was born, where Joseph was shown next to his son-in-law Squire Blodgett in the 1840 Erie Co. census.  Joseph also married Caroline Case, and it is possible that she was the sister of the Case who married Nancy - indicating that it is possible a brother and a sister married a brother and a sister.  Joseph and Carolina Carpenter are shown signing deeds by these names - both in Erie County and in McHenry County, IL.

4) Jeremiah Jr. is linked by name, records with family members, and proximity was listed in the 1855 Erie County census as having prior residence in Onondaga County.

5) George W. is shown as son of Jeremiah in a biography of his son.  He is also in the right locations with other Carpenters in other records.

The census entries of 1790 through 1820 for Jeremiah match the above five children.

The only issue not completely resolved with the census entries is the issue of the unknown women in these early census entries of Jeremiah. There is an extra female in the 1790 entry, although it could have been a sister or mother to either Jeremiah or Jane as that year’s census listing did not list ages for women.  In 1800, there was an unknown female between ten and sixteen (which is of the age to be the extra female of 1790); and two unknown females under the age of ten.  In 1810, there is an unknown woman between sixteen and twenty-six, and an unknown girl under the age of ten - the older one being of the age to have been one of the unknown females in 1800.  In 1820, there is an unknown woman between sixteen and twenty-six, old enough to be the unknown younger female from 1810.  The fact that there were three unidentified females together at once in the 1800 census, and one in 1810 that had been born since 1800, means that there were at least four female children in this family in addition to daughter Nancy.

[By numbering the unknown females and matching them to the census entries, and making Nancy “Girl 1” - Girl 2 was born before 1790 and shown in 1790 and 1800; Girl 3 was born between 1790 and 1800 and was shown in 1800; Girl 4 was born between 1790 and 1794, and was shown in 1800 and 1810; and Girl 5 was born between 1800 and 1804, and was shown in 1810 and 1820.  Given that the last known male child was born ca 1800/1801, the ages of these unknown daughters fit with the other children’s ages. These ages also generally fit with the women marrying and leaving the household, rather than dying.  So it is likely that there were other related families that were in the vicinity of Jeremiah and the identified children.]

Once it is established that these are the five identified children of Jeremiah, we can work back through their census entries to identify their ages.  Nancy was listed in censuses in 1850 and after place her birth year as 1781 or 1782.  William’s census entries with Jeremiah and in 1810 and 1820 would place his birth year about 1784.  Joseph’s census records in 1850 or after place his birth year as 1789 or 1790.  Jeremiah Jr.’s future census records put his birth year in the 1795/1798 range.  George W.’s son’s biography lists George W. Sr.’s birth year as 1800, but other records suggest 1801.

Now that the children of Jeremiah have been identified, placed in birth order, and assigned general dates for their birth - this family can be compared to the family that Charles L. Carpenter listed.

Charles listed Niles and Copeland as sons of Jeremiah.  They were not.  John C. (Copeland) was born June 1, 1823 and was a son of George W. Carpenter and grandson of Jeremiah Sr. (Charles has an entry for both Copeland and John Copeland, even though they were one person in the grandchild generation); Niles was born in May 1825, a son of Jeremiah Jr. and grandson of Jeremiah Carpenter Sr.

Charles listed John Carpenter as a son of Jeremiah.  There were two John Carpenters in the Erie County region.  One was the John Carpenter born June 25, 1808, the son of William Carpenter and the grandson of Jeremiah.  The other was an older John who was born in Pennsylvania and is not of our Carpenters.  Charles L. Carpenter combined the two, gave that John the birth year of the Pennsylvania-born John and made them a son of Jeremiah.  There was not a son of Jeremiah named John.

Charles L. Carpenter does list a William as a son of Jeremiah.  However, he listed William R. (Rodman) Carpenter, who was not the William that was the son of Jeremiah, but was William Rodman Carpenter, the son of James Carpenter and Anna Rodman - and who died in 1868, forty years after the William who was the son of Jeremiah died.

Charles L. Carpenter also listed Nancy as having married Paulon Cose.  That was probably an error in record reading, as Nancy, in fact, married Pardon Case.  Joseph and Jeremiah Jr. were born later than Charles Carpenter had listed.

Charles had one unnamed female born in 1797 and another child of unknown age or gender.  There were as many as four female children other than Nancy in this family, and one could have been born in the 1797 period, but there is no evidence as to what year any one of them was born.

In summary, Charles Carpenter named eight children of Jeremiah, and noted unnamed women.  He was off on the ages of the children, and the fact that John, Niles, and (John) Copeland were grandchildren and not children of Jeremiah.  He was also off on which William he suggested as a son of Jeremiah, which John is the grandson, and that Nancy married Pardon Case rather than Paulon Cose.

There are five children of Jeremiah that fit public records and can be named.  There is a companion document that is over 220 pages that lists all public record entries for Jeremiah, his children and descendants to about 1900.  It is the backup for the summary that is listed here.

John Laird
Santa Cruz, CA
JohnLaird9@aol.com mailto:JohnLaird9@aol.com>
January, 2013

E-MAIL:  3 May 2014 to John Laird
John,
I like it. It was a journey of discovery, correction and education. You covered the problems, solutions and summary very well. It was not easy, but the results were well worth it.
You do know that you could have used my name? But the way it was done was fine also.
With your permission, I will use the your current pdfs – as is – to help others with Jeremiah’s line, show how to correct so called accepted genealogies and to generally educate others.
For the notes heading of Jeremiah Carpenter-65, I currently list ...
This line updated by John Laird via email < johnlarid9@aol.com > in May 2013.
2013 UPDATE. See 25 May 2013 email below and Carpenter Executive Summary also below.
SEE: Under Articles subfolder & BOOK: Timothy Carpenter's Descendants - Jeremiah Carpenter 2013 Update:
RIN 0065 Jeremiah Carpenter - Family_Chronicle_Article_draft.doc
SEE: Under BOOKS subfolder - Timothy Carpenter's Descendants - Jeremiah Carpenter 2013 Update:
Jeremiah Carpenter Register Report - Jan 27 2013.jpg (See below also)
JEREMIAH is listed as 19-2 TIMOTHY CARPENTER DESCENDANTS. He married a JANE SHEARS who died prior to 1810. SECOND MARRIAGE to MRS. MARY HARMON, A WIDOW.
...
I of course will update this a bit to tout your 2014 work!
Congratulations on the hard work, well done!
John R. Carpenter Carpenter Cousins Project
From: johnlaird9@aol.com mailto:johnlaird9@aol.com>
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:12 PM
To: jrcrin001@cox.net mailto:jrcrin001@cox.net>
Subject: Jeremiah Carpenter Article
John - Hope this reaches you in good spirit. You and I had corresponded last year about the Jeremiah Carpenter family issue and the article I was writing for Family Chronicle on the issue. The magazine has finally run the article, copies his mailboxes this week, and I have attached the article FYI - which, while having been revised since you and I had our exchange, still includes the language you suggested about our interactions. I have posted a GEDCOM file to ancestry.com, and included notes for Jeremiah and each of his family members - but not for the subsequent generations, although they are all there in complete format. It was a really good exercise. Just wanted to keep you up to date. Best, John


Jane Shears

Sometimes known as JANE SHEAR.  She was not listed in the census on 1810.


9046. 8 Carpenter

NOTE: #95 in the T. Carpenter book.  Probably died as a infant.


9048. 10 Carpenter

NOTE: #97 in T. Carpenter book.  Not Ledgible.  Not noted in later records
indicating death as a young child or infant.


Mary Harmon A Widow

Age 60 in 1854.