HANNAH is listed as #21-2 in the book TIMOTHY CARPENTER DESCENDANTS.
She is also listed in TIMOTHY'S C. will.
8209001 26 BATCH AND SHEET Number 0884787 LIBARY CALL NumberPer the T. Carpenter book:
HANNAH is recorded in some old records as HANNAH CARPENTER DELONG. Until proven
otherwise, we accept it as given above (ie a child of the first marriage). She
was devised the northern portion of her father's farm; his will records it was
his "will and pleasure that HANNAH's spouse NEHEMIAH enjoy the tract during his
natural life." Later, this family moved westward to Steuben, N.Y.
The compiler was unable to find any conveyance having been made by HANNAH and
her spouse in the Pittstown area. Gravesites inspected by the compiler in
1974, were in a dilapidated state. This cemetery is practically bushed over,
with many stones down. NEHEMIAH'S stone is standing, but about to topple,
while HANNAH'S already had. There were other WALLACE stones there.HANNAH DELONG married NEHEMIAH WALLACE In 1782. He is sometimes listed as
"NICHOLAS" - They had children. NEHEMIAH served in the Revolutionary war
with brother-in-laws JOSIAH and JEREMIAH in the 14th Albany Regiment of milita.
NEHEMIAH WALLACE'S name is sometimes recorded as NICHOLAS WALLACE. He was the
son of NATHANIEL and PATIENCE (EARLE) WALLACE and was named one of the
executors of TIMOTHY CARPENTER'S will. He served in the 14th Albany Regiment
of Milita in the Revolutionary War, as did his brother-in-law, JOSIAH and
JEREMIAH. This regiment was formed from the Hoosick-Schaghticoke areas.
His gravesite in Beechville Cemetery inspected by C.L. Carpenter, the compiler
of TIMOTHY CARPENTER DESCENDANTS in 1974, indicated his stone was about to
topple and the area about bushed over. His stone indicated he was AGE 78 YR.,
5 MO., 4 DAYS. There were other WALLACE stones there, but only two are
decipherable: THOMAS R. WALLACE, D. 8-6-1882, AGE 74, and PRUNDIA ANN WALLACE,
WIFE OF JOHN ROSE WALLACE, D. 8-23-1889, AGE 70 YR., 2 MO., 20 DAYS.
NEHEMIAH'S gravesite is being registered by the above compiler with the
National Graves Commission, Washington, D.C.
NOTE: #99 in T. Carpenter book. She married a ELI CARRINGTON. NFD 1992.
#100 in T. Carpenter book.
NOTE: #101 in T. Carpenter book. Married a Elizabeth Blanchard. NFD 1992.
NOTE: #102 in T. Carpenter book. She married a "FEBA" ? LOUK. NFD 1992.
NOTE: #103 in T. Carpenter book.
NOTE: #104 in T. Carpenter book.
NOTE: #105 in T. Carpenter book.
Number 139 in the book "The Carpenter Family in America" by Daniel H. Carpenter, 1901.
He married and had six children, one of whom was Robert who was living in 1848
at Fitchville, Huron county, Ohio. Robert stated that at that time there was
37 grandchildren of Henry, but fails to give any further information. He also
said there are none of his family living near him.GRAVE: not really - memorial only
Henry Carpenter
Birth: 6 Aug 1741 Queens County, New York, USA
Death: 22 Jan 1784 (aged 42) Westchester County, New York, USA
Burial: Unknown
Memorial #: 175970404
Family Members
Spouse
Phebe Dickinson Carpenter 1747-1784
Children
Robert Carpenter Unknown-1861
Created by: cousin_karl (47462808)
Added: 3 Feb 2017
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/175970404/henry-carpenter
Citation: Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 29 July 2019), memorial page for Henry Carpenter (6 Aug 1741–22 Jan 1784), Find A Grave Memorial no. 175970404, ; Maintained by cousin_karl (contributor 47462808) Unknown.Subj: Re: Henry Carpenter Date: 99-03-16 22:51:48 EST From: SEvans50
To: JRCRIN001
Dear John,
What a thrill to get this information from you! Thank you so much. I can't
handle GEDCOM, but would love to have any further information you could send
me. If necessary, I will send you my postal address.
Can you tell me how I could obtain the Daniel H. Carpenter book, or the
Carpenter Historical Journal? Both sound like something I would love to be
able to reference.
The information below is what I have on Henry Carpenter on down. Obviously,
some lines are more complete than others. The DeGarmo information is well
documented. The Sutton information...I am trying to get documented. The
Sutton/Carpenter link is quite new to me, and was sent by Gil Leach, a
Stoughtenburg/Ring researcher who had it in his family records. He had dates
only. His email address is: gilbleach@aol.com
He has been a gem in terms of sharing his knowledge. He would probably love to
hear from you, as well. I will send him a copy of what you sent to me.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Thank you again (so very much!),
Stefani EvansDESCENDANTS OF HENRY CARPENTER
Compiled by Stefani Evans 3-3-1999
HENRY CARPENTER, b. 8-6-1741, d. 1-22-1784, m. 3-1-1768 PHEBE _____, b.
3-30-1747, d. 4-7-1784 (36)
1.
SOPHIA CARPENTER, b. 3-18-1769, m. 3-25-1789, DANIEL SUTTON, b. 2-13-1768 (36)
1.1.
PHEBE SUTTON, b. 12-3-1791, m. Dutchess Co., NY, ROWLAND DE GARMO, b.
11-29-1785, Dutchess Co., NY, d. 6-6-1838, Dutchess Co., NY, son of PETER DE
GARMO, b. 9-2-1751, Pompton Plains, NJ, d. 8-4-1840, Dutchess Co., NY, and MARY
D. ROBINSON, b. 11-12-1763, NY, d. 6-3-1839, Dutchess Co., NY (2,3,36,41)
1.1.1.
MARY DE GARMO, b. cir. 1812 , m. JON HAIGHT (2,41)
1.1.1.1.
WILLIAM H. HAIGHT of Poughkeepsie, Dutchess Co., NY (2)
1.1.1.2.
MARY C. HAIGHT, m. _____ STOCKBRIDGE (2)
1.1.1.3.
ELIZABETH HAIGHT, m. _____ AYERS, Central Valley, Orange Co., NY (2)
1.1.2.
DAVID S. DE GARMO, b. 3-5-1818, d. 5-30-1875, m. PHOEBE H. LAWRENCE (2)
1.1.2.1.
SMITH LAWRENCE DE GARMO, b. 10-10-1842 (2)
1.1.2.2.
MARY H. DE GARMO, m. _____SMITH (2)
1.1.2.3. (SHOULD BE: 1.1.3 Elias)
ELIAS S. DE GARMO, d. 1-25-1887, m. CAROLINE _____ (2)
1.1.2.4. (SHOULD BE: 1.1.4 Eliza)
ELIZA DE GARMO, m. _____ CARPENTER (2)
1.1.2.5. (SHOULD BE: 1.1.5 Henry)
WILLIAM HENRY DE GARMO (2)
1.1.3.
ELIAS S. DE GARMO
1.1.4.
ELIZA DE GARMO
1.1.5.
WILLIAM HENRY DE GARMO
1.2.
ANNA SUTTON, b. 2-21-1795, m. 11-25-1818, DAVID D. DE GARMO, b. cir. 1791,
Dutchess Co., NY, d. 5-3-1845, Rochester, Monroe Co., NY, son of PETER DE
GARMO, b. 9-2-1751, Pompton Plains, NJ, d. 8-4-1840, Dutchess Co., NY, and MARY
D. ROBINSON, b. 11-12-1763, d. 6-3-1839 (1,2,3,36)
1.2.1.
PETER DE GARMO, b. cir. 1815, NY, d. 3-18-1880, Rochester, Monroe Co., NY
(2,41)
1.2.2.
ELIAS DE GARMO, b. 11-1816, NY, d. 2-8-1872, Milton, Ontario Province, Canada
(2,41)
1.2.3.
EDDY ANN DE GARMO, b. cir. 1820, d. cir. 12-23-1898, Rochester, Monroe Co., NY
(2,41)
1.2.4.
WILLIAM ELLSWORTH DE GARMO, b. cir. 1821, NY (2,41)
1.2.5.
DANIEL DE GARMO, b. 4-10-1911, Rochester, Monroe Co., NY, m. 11-8-1861,
Pittsford, NY, EMMILINE L. (Emily) SAUNDERS (2,41)
1.3.
ELIZABETH SUTTON, b. 5-3-1797, m. 2-8-1817, HARMON STOUTENBURGH, b. 2-26-1794,
d. 4-13-1868 (36)
1.3.1.
PHEBE STOUTENBURGH, b. 4-13-1818, m. THEODORE HORTON (36)
1.3.2.
SOPHIA STOUTENBURGH, b. 9-24-1820, d. 5-15-1827 (36)
1.3.3.
JACOB M. STOUTENBURGH, b. 6-25-1822 (36)
1.3.4.
DAVID STOUTENBURGH, b. 11-27-1824 (unmarried) (36)
1.3.5.
MARY STOUTENBURGH, b. 5-22-1827 (unmarried) (36)
1.3.6.
ELIZA STOUTENBURGH, b. 11-20-1829, d. 2-25-1865 (36)
1.3.7.
ANN STOUTENBURGH, b. 7-14-1832, m. _____ THURSTON (36)
1.3.8.
CAROLINE STOUTENBURGH, b. 7-26-1835, m. OSCAR RING (36)
1.3.9.
JAMES HENRY STOUTENBURGH, b. 2-22-1838, m. ELLEN BUDD, niece of Oscar Ring (36)
1.4.
PHILENAR SUTTON, b. 12-16-1800 (36)
1.5.
HENRY C. [Carpenter?] SUTTON, b. 1-4-1804, NY, m. 3-24-1824, Hyde Park,
Dutchess Co., NY, ELIZABETH DE GARMO, b. cir. 1806 (4-8-1801-(3)), Oswego,
Oswego Co., NY, daughter of PETER DE GARMO, b. 9-2-1751, Pompton Plains, NJ, d.
8-4-1840, Dutchess Co., NY, and MARY ROBINSON, b. 11-12-1763, d. 6-3-1839.
Henry C. Sutton and family in 1850 census, Rush, Monroe Co., NY; and 1860
census, Jefferson Twp, Cass Co., MI (1,2,3,27,34,36)
1.5. 1.
MARY ELIZABETH SUTTON, b. 12-30-1825, Dutchess Co., NY (1,2,3,27,34)
1.5. 2.
JOHN SUTTON, b. 8-12-1828, Dutchess Co., NY (1,2,3)
1.5. 3.
ROWLAND SUTTON, b. 3-26-1830, Dutchess Co., NY (1,2,3)
1.5. 4.
SOLOMAN (Sol) SUTTON, b. 3-1-1832, NY, m. MARY _____, in 1860 census, Jefferson
Township, Cass Co., MI (1,18,27)
1.5. 5.
PETER DEGARMO SUTTON, b. 6-6-1834, Ulster Co., NY, d. 4-18-1924, Overland Park,
Johnson Co., KS, Sergeant, Company H 113th Illinois infantry, wounded at
Vicksburg and the battle of Arkansas, member, G.A.R., Custer Post, St. Joseph,
MO, m. 10-18-1857, Edwardsburg, Cass Co., MI, MARY (Aunt Mollie, Grandie) ALDEN
ALLEN, b. 2-28-1841, Dublin, Wayne Co., IN, d. 3-31-1920, Kansas City, MO.
Married by Rev. Elisha B. Sherwood, with Hiram Norton and Mary Sheldon as
witnesses. Both residents of Jefferson Township, Cass Co., MI, at the time of
their marriage. Mother of Mary Alden Allen died at the birth of this child.
She was reared by her mother's sister, Jane Van Vliet Hull, b. cir. 1804, NY,
d. 8-27-1879, Franklin Twp., Sacramento Co., CA, wife of Sewell Hull, b.
8-12-1798, Danville Twp., Caledonia Co., VT. Hulls were neighbors of Suttons
in 1860 Cass Co. census. Mrs. Hull was an editorial writer for Horace Greeley
on his Tribune. Mary Alden Allen had two brothers, Wilbur Allen, and Henry
Allen; and two sisters, Matilda (Mattie) Dodson, who lived in San Diego, and
Leah Margaret (Mrs. George Richardson) Smith (mother of Senator George Alden
Smith, from MI). Removed family in 1871 to Deer Creek, Atchison Co., KS,
where he was a farmer. Peter Sutton in 1860 census, Jefferson Township, Cass
Co., MI, as a farmer. P.D. Sutton in 1870 census, Shannon Township, Atchison
Co., KS (1,2,3,14,15,17,18,19,20,21,26,27,34)
1.5. 5. 1.
CLYDE ALLEN SUTTON, b. 7-30-1857, MI, m. 9 times, mother of children deserted
the family (1,15,27,30)
1.5. 5. 1.1
CLAUDE SUTTON, b. cir. 1877, d. 6-8-1943, Kansas City, Jackson Co., MO (1,35)
1.5. 5. 1.2
MAYBELLE (Mabel) SUTTON, b. 1-31-1883, St. Joseph, MO, d. 9-29-1955, Kansas
City, Jackson Co., MO, m. 1903, ROBERT BIRON NUSSER, b. 1-18-1881, d. 5-6-1963,
Kansas City, Jackson Co., MO. Raised in Catholic orphanage from the age of
two. (1,17,30,33,35)
1.5. 5. 1.2.1.
RALPH WAYNE NUSSER, b. 6-6-1905, Kansas City, Jackson Co., MO, d. 4-29-1991,
Raymore, Cass Co., MO, buried Mt. Moriah Cemetery, Raymore, Cass Co., MO,
Ivanhoe Masonic Lodge, m. 6-8-1929, Kansas City, Jackson Co., MO, ANNABEL
HARRIETT WING, b. 9-29-1903, Kansas City, Jackson Co., MO, d. 5-1985
(1,17,29,33)
Ralph Wayne Nusser m. 1988, Raymore, MO (2) ELIZABETH MCCARTNEY (33)
1.5. 5. 1.2.1.1
BARBARA ANN NUSSER, descendant information deleted for privacy.
1.5. 5. 2.
FRED ELLSWORTH SUTTON, b. 6-10-1860, MI, d. 10-4-1937, Kansas City, Jackson
Co., MO, m. (1) MARGARET GRAHAM, daughter of WILLIAM GRAHAM and MARY _____, m.
(2) VIRGINIA (Ginny) COX, m. (3) Lillie B. _____ . He was one of David L.
Payne's 500 Boomers, who opened OK to white settlement, and author of Hands Up!
, with A.B. Madconald (Bobbs Merrill Company, Indianapolis, 1926), a book about
border life in the 1880's. 1893 first man to stake a 160-acre claim near Perry,
OK. Foreman C Bar Ranch, AZ; banker in Oklahoma City (1,14,15,17,28)
1.5. 5. 2.1.
EDWIN B. SUTTON, b. 1-2-1884, lived in Holland, MI and TX, d. 7-1967, McAllen,
Hidalgo Co., TX (1,6,14,15,28,)
1.5. 5. 2.2.
MONTE COCHRAN SUTTON, d. 1940 (1,14,15,28)
1.5. 5. 2.3.
INEZ EUDORA (aka GRAHAM) SUTTON, b. 3-17-1894, d. 12-1986, Greeley, CO, m.
JOSEPH (Josef) SLABOTSKY, b. 3-10-1894, d. 1-1972, Shawnee Mission, KS, son of
ABRAHAM SLABOTSKY (1,14,15,28)
1.5. 5. 2.3.1.
MARY GRAHAM SLABOTSKY, Descendant Information deleted for Privacy.
1.5. 5. 3
LEON (Lee) SUTTON, b. 11-7-1864, MI, worked in brick mills and at Luzier
Cosmetics, m. ANNA (Annie) WOODS, d. Atchison, KS (1,14,15,37)
1.5. 5. 3.1.
MARGARET (Maggie) SUTTON, b. 1-8-(cir. 1893), Atchison, KS, worked with brother
Charlie at H.D. Lee, d. 1-13-1978, Kansas City, Jackson Co., MO, m. ROBERT M.
COPENHAVER, b. 4-1-1891, d. 2-1-1954, Schell City, MO (1,17,37,38,40)
1.5. 5. 3.1.1.
ROBERT MOYER COPENHAVER, b. 7-18-1910, St. Joseph, MO, d. 3-8-1991, Blue
Springs, Jackson Co., MO, buried Mt. Washington Cemetery, Kansas City, Jackson
Co., MO, m. (1) GENEVA PICKETT, mother of children (17,29,37,39)
Robert Moyer Copenhaver m. (2) DOROTHY F. BURGETT (39)
1.5. 5. 3.1.1.1.
ROBERT LEON COPENHAVER, Descendancy information deleted for privacy.
1.5. 5. 3.1.2.
HARRY LEE COPENHAVER, b. 6-7-1916, St. Joseph, MO, m. 12-31-1938, LOVISA (Vi)
HURST (17,29,35,37,38) Descendancy information deleted for privacy.
1.5. 5. 3.2.
JOSEPH SUTTON, b. cir. 1895, supervisor Harraby Hospital, MO, m. (1) _____, m.
(2) _____ (1,37)
1.5. 5. 3.2.1.
LEROY SUTTON, b. 10-15-1916, d. 10-16-1982, Jackson Co., MO (37)
1.5. 5. 3.2.1.1.
GARY SUTTON, (37)
1.5. 5. 3.2.1.2.
JOYCE SUTTON (37)
1.5. 5. 3.3.
CARL SUTTON (1,37)
1.5. 5. 4.
CHARLES OSCAR SUTTON, b. 6-3-1866, Niles, Berrien Co., MI, d. 12-23-1952,
Overland Park, Johnson Co., KS, buried Overland Park, Johnson Co., KS, m.
8-16-1888, Atchison Co., KS, ALICE LEONA BUSH, b. 7-14-1867, Stewartsville,
DeKalb Co., MO, d. 7-30-1968, Centralia, Lewis Co., WA, buried Overland Park,
Johnson Co., KS, daughter of FRANK BUSH and SYRENA THOMPSON. Charles Oscar
moved from Marshall, MI, by covered wagon with family to Deer Creek, Atchison
Co., KS, in 1872. Sheriff, State of KS, U.S. Deputy Marshall, Territory of OK,
Private Investigator for Wells Fargo, Agent for Anheuser-Busch Brewing Co.,
Retired from H.D. Lee Clothing Co., Member, Board of Education, Overland Park,
KS. (1, 10,14,25,)
1.5. 5. 4.1.
PETER DEGARMO SUTTON (aka FRANCIS PATRICK SUTTON), b. 10-25-1890, Atchison Co.,
KS, d. 5-22-1964, Long Beach, Los Angeles Co., CA, m. (1) ETHEL M. ANDERSON,
div. 9-28-1921, Jackson Co., MO, no issue, m. 10-1-1921 (2) HAZEL MAY
HOUSEKEEPER (aka WEISS), b. 2-16-1902, South Bend, St. Joseph Co., IN, d.
10-6-1987, Laguna Hills, Orange Co., CA, daughter of EDMUND FRANCIS THORNTON
HOUSEKEEPER, b. 4-30-1879, d. 1930's, and EMMA T. CLARK, b. 1880, Lakeville,
IN, d. 5-25-1906, South Bend, St. Joseph Co., IN, buried Bowman Cemetery;
adopted 6-1-1906, Circuit Court, St. Joseph Co., IN, Petition #11075, by
GOTLIEB WEISS and DELLA CLARK (sister to Emma T. Clark) (1,4, 10)
1.5. 5. 4.1.1.
EMMA MAY SUTTON, Descendancy information deleted for privacy.
1.5. 5. 4.1.2.
ALICE PATRICIA (Patsy) SUTTON,
(1,4,6,10,11) MOTHER OF Stefani Evans the submitter. *******
1.5. 5. 4.2. WILLIAM (Willie) SUTTON, d. cir. 1980, 11-1972, living in Los
Angeles, CA 90004, 1979 living in Santa Monica, CA (1,31,35)
1.5. 5. 4.3.
EARL E. SUTTON, USN, d. 12-21-1979, San Diego Co., CA, m. ROSE KATHRYN
MCCARTY., b. 3-11-1903, MI, d. 9-16-1979, San Diego, San Diego Co., CA,
daughter of JOSEPH L. MCCARTY and MARY GRADI, MI (1,35)
1.5. 5. 4.4.
WESLEY LANGDON (aka Leonard) SUTTON, b. 6-11-1903, MO, d. 4-14-1996, Centralia,
Lewis Co., WA, m. Independence, MO?, JENNIE (GENEVA?) BENTLEY (1, 13)
1.5. 5. 4.4.1. Descendancy information deleted for privacy.
1.5. 5. 5.
WILLIAM VAN VLIET SUTTON, b. 10-29-1868, MI, member, Masonic Lodge No. 436,
Overland Park, Johnson Co., KS, m. MRS. JOSEPHINE (JOSIE) WALKER, d.
11-23-1943, buried Mt. Washington Cemetery, Kansas City, Jackson Co., MO. She
had son, Albert A. Walker, 1917 Company F 137th United States Infantry, Fort
Sill. The family lived in Overland Park, KS; he worked for Luzier Cosmetics.
No issue. (1,14,17,28,35)
1.5. 5. 6.
MARGARET (MAGGIE) INEZ SUTTON, b. 11-29-1870, MI, d. 6-15-1950, m. JOHN CURRAN
(1,14,28,35)
1.5. 5. 6.1.
KENNETH CURRAN, d. before 12-1979 (1,4,35)
1.5. 5. 6.2.
VERA CURRAN, worked for Luzier Cosmetics, Kansas City, MO, m. (1) CLARENCE
BOULT, m. (2) _____ LUZIER (1,32)
1.5. 5. 6.2.1.
CLARENCE BOULT, JR. (aka NEAL LUZIER) (1,32)
1.5. 5. 7.
ROY C. (Sonny) SUTTON, b. 7-10-1872 , d. cir. 1954, St. Louis, MO, m. CORA
_____, b. 4-24-1875, d. 7-1972, St. Louis, MO. Invented formula for Oxydol,
sold patent for $15,000, and owned a soap mfg. company. (1,6,14,28)
1.5. 5. 7.1.
DONELIA SUTTON, m. 11-20-1917, STANLEY BLEWETT WAGONER, son of HARRY E. WAGONER
and ADELINE PALMIER MYERS (1)
1.5. 5. 7.1.1.
WALTER D. WAGONER, b. cir. 1918 (1)
1.5. 5. 7.1.2.
JEAN SUTTON WAGONER, b. cir. 1919 (1)
1.5. 5. 8.
EDITH MAY SUTTON, b. 12-18-1878, KS, worked for Luzier Cosmetics, m. (1) _____
FLANDERS, m. (2) SAM HAAS, d. 1932, m. 7-5-1937 (3) CHARLES COBURN
(1,14,17,28)
1.5. 5. 9.
EDNA RAY SUTTON, b. 2-10-1880, KS, m. 6-1906, WILLIAM (Willie) APPLEGATE
BECKWITH PARRY, b. 7-7-1880, d. cir. 1952, son of JOHN PARRY and ANNIE TOLER,
of VA (1,14,17)
1.5. 5. 9.1.
NORMA MARGUERITE PARRY, b. 12-28-1910, worked for Luzier Cosmetics 2 summers,
m. 9-21-1946, ELMER NATHAN PAINTER, d. 8-24-1959, age 45 years (1,14,35)
Descendancy information deleted for privacy.
1.5. 5. 9.2.
RUTH BECKWITH PARRY, b. 1-20-1914, m. EDWARD MCKINLEY WHEAT (1,14)
Descendancy information deleted for privacy.
1.5. 5. 9.3.
ALAN TOLER PARRY, b. 2-9-1918, m. VENITA MITCHELL (1,14)
Descendancy information deleted for privacy.
1.5. 5. 9.3.1.2.
ALAN PARRY (35)
1.5. 5.10
WINNIE B. SUTTON, b. 2-20-1882, d. infant (1,24,35)
1.5. 6.
SMITH SUTTON, b. 11-17-1837, NY, m. cir. 1860, JULIA _____, b. cir. 1841,
Baden, Germany; in 1860 census, Jefferson Township, Cass Co., MI, served with
brother Peter in Company H, 113th Illinois Infantry, organized in Kankakee Co.,
IL, 10-1-1862 to 6-20-1865 (1,2,3,18,27,34)
1.5. 7.
SARAH ANNA SUTTON, b. 10-10(27?)-1839, NY (1,35,41)
1.5. 8.
WILLIAM H. SUTTON, b. 6-26-1841, NY, in 1860 census, Jefferson Township, Cass
Co., MI (1,18,27,34)
1.5. 9.
ALFRED H. SUTTON, b. 4-7-1843, NY (1,27,34)
1.5.10.
CHARLES OSCAR SUTTON, b. 5-20-1845, NY (1,27,34)
1.5.11.
ANNA [Hannah?] SUTTON, b. 1-1-1848, NY (1,27,34)
1.5.12.
ISABEL (Belle) SUTTON, b. 10-5-1851, MI (1,27)
1.6.
SOPHIA SUTTON, b. 1-17-180(7?) (36)
1.7.
DAVID WILLIAM SUTTON, b. 6-17-1811(1819?) (36)
2.
PHILENAR CARPENTER, b. 10-12-1771 (36)
3.
ELIZABETH CARPENTER, b. 10-14-1773 (36)
4.
BENJAMIN CARPENTER, b. 10-14-1775 (36)
5.
ROBERT CARPENTER, b. 7-7-1775 (36)
6.
HENRY CARPENTER, b. 3-4-1781 (36)Sources:
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Vilardi 11-1998
2. Descendants of Pierre DeGarmo of Albany, New York, Compiled by Mrs. John
Wood MacArthur of Toronto, Canada, reprinted in the Detroit Genealogical
Society Journal
3. Family group sheets sent 10-5-1998 by Bill DeGarmo, Highlands Ranch, CO
4. Conversation with Pat Broudy 11-1998
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6. Social Security Death Index, accessed by www.ancestry.com 11-1998, and
2-13-1999
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8. Conversation with John Lopez 11-1998
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11.Research and notes of Stefani Evans
12.Conversation with Bicky Ross 11-1998
13.Conversation with Charles Sutton 11-27-1998
14.Conversation with Kent Slabotsky 11-30-1998
15.Family records sent by Kent Slabotsky 12-1-1998
16.Email from Kent Slabotsky 12-4-1998
17.Information, scrapbook pages and notes of Norma Parry Painter, sent
12-14-1998
18. Jackson, Ronald Vern, 1860 Census Michigan (Federal Census Index),
Accelerated Indexing Systems International, North Salt Lake, UT, p. 799
19. Jackson, Ronald Vern, 1870 Census Kansas, p. 458
20. Email from Phyllis J. Hughes, Hull Family Association Genealogist, address:
BOBHughess@aol.com, received 2-1-1999
21. 1881 Necrologists Report and Election of Officers, Collections and
Researches Made by the Michigan Pioneer and Historical Society, Lansing, Robert
Smith & Co., accessed 1-26-1999, via
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23. Biography of William Alden Smith, accessed 1-26-1999, via
http://politicalgraveyard.com/geo/MI/CS/html
24. Pension application of Peter DeGarmo Sutton, dated 4-2-1915
25. Death certificate of Charles Oscar Sutton
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Nancy Phillips
27. 1860 Census, Jefferson Twp., Cass Co., MI, pages 168, 169 and 170
28. Information sent by Kent Slabotsky 2-11-1999
29. Kansas City Star Obituaries, 1998, accessed through www.ancestry.com
2-13-1999, (3-10-1991, page B6; 5-1-1991, page C3-C4)
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31. Letter from Bill Sutton to Emma Vilardi, 11-2-1972
32. Conversation with Norma Painter, 2-15-1999
33. Information from Bob Nusser, 2-25-1999
34. 1850 Census, Rush, Monroe Co., NY, page 303, FHC film #17105
35. Information received by Norma Painter, 2-27-1999
36. Email from Gil Leach, 2-25-1999, from information contained in two
handwritten booklets of Stoughtenburg family records
37. Conversation with Harry Copenhaver, 2-28-1999
38. Conversation with Linda Adams, 3-1-1999
39. Conversation with Pat Jackson, 3-2-1999
40. Conversation with Juanita Copenhaver, 3-2-1999, from Copenhaver Bible
41. Information sent by Bill DeGarmo, email 3-4-1999
42.Conversation with Michelle Schear, 3-6-1999
West Farms now the 23rd Ward of NYC.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywestch/towns/westfarm.htm
History
West Farms was a town originally located in Westchester County, until 1873 when it was annexed by New York city. In 1898 it was incorporated into The Bronx County which is one of the New York City counties/buroughs. When looking for vital records for the town of Westchester, you will need to check both counties, as well as the records located at the NYC Municipal Arhives. See also the Eastchester Historical Society.Boundaries: "The patent for West Farms was granted to John Richardson and Edward Jessup April 25, 1666. 'Bounded east by the river called by the Indians Aquehung, otherwise Bronks river, westerly by a little brook called by the Indians Sackwrahung, and southward to the Sound at East river, including a certain neck called Quinahung.' Edward Jessup had a daughter Elizabeth, who married Thomas Hunt, and his part came into their possession. The whole was divided in 1669. Thomas Hunt having the part still known as 'Hunt's Point.'"
Source: Early Wills of Westchester County, New York 1664-1784 by William S. Pelletreau, Am. M.; Pub. 1898; page 6, footnote.GRAVE: not really - memorial only
Phebe Dickinson Carpenter
Birth: 30 Mar 1747 Glastonbury, Hartford County, Connecticut, USA
Death: 7 Apr 1784 (aged 37) Westchester County, New York, USA
Burial: Unknown
Memorial #: 175970483
Family Members
Spouse
Henry Carpenter 1741-1784
Children
Robert Carpenter Unknown-1861
Created by: cousin_karl (47462808)
Added: 3 Feb 2017
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/175970483/phebe-carpenter
Citation: Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 29 July 2019), memorial page for Phebe Dickinson Carpenter (30 Mar 1747–7 Apr 1784), Find A Grave Memorial no. 175970483, ; Maintained by cousin_karl (contributor 47462808) Unknown.
Number 141 in the book "The Carpenter Family in America" by Daniel H.
Carpenter, 1901. Family on page 132 & 133.
!MARRIAGE: Westbury Records "Thomas Carpenter of the City of New York, tailor,
son of Joseph Carpenter deceased, of Oyster Bay, mariner, was married to
Hannah, daughter of Richard Alsop of Oyster Bay, 12d, 4mo. 1777."
Thomas was a tailor by trade, residing in New York City. He died after sireing
one child.
Thomas's widow remarried to Job Webb of Pennsylvania per Book A, page
151 of the Westbury Friends' Meeting Records which supplied most of the data
for this record.
Job Webb and his wife Hannah, mother of Alsop Carpenter were living at De
Ruyter, near Skaneateles, NY from 1814 to 1827. Per Adam & Ann Mott, pages
90, 107, & 135.
!Thomas Carpenter was received as a member of Westbury Meeting on 27 Nov. 1776
per Book C, page 164.
Number 142 in the book "The Carpenter Family in America" by Daniel H. Carpenter, 1901.
Family and notes on page 133 & 134. Four children listed - 3 males and 1 female - Phebe.
"Lewis Carpenter, grocer, of New York, Charles Thorne of Oyster Bay appointed Administrator April 10, 1786."
The Townsend Memorial indicates Lewis and Elizabeth had three children - all males.E-MAIL:
From: Jan Robison janrobison@yahoo.com
To: Nancy Taylor taylorn@westelcom.com
Cc: John R Carpenter
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002
Subject: Re: Phebe Carpenter
Hi, Nancy,
You wrote:
Dear Jan,
I was reading over your geneology info in Ancestry.com and came upon the information that Phebe "Carpenter" married Nathaniel Wright.The family information I have and according to "Memorial of the Townsend Brothers" pub.in 1875 says that phebe's mother,Betsy Townsend married first Lewis Carpenter by whom she had Thomas,Henry and Townsend.She married second Robert Little by whom she had Phebe,Elizabeth,and Martha.Thus Phebe was in fact Phebe Little from whom I am descended and of whom I have a daguerretype picture.Phebe was born Feb.10,1789 and died Apr.15,1867.Nathaniel Wright was born May 11,1787 and died July 30,1866.
I hope this is some help,and would like to know why our information differs.
Regards,
Nancy Taylor
I have no earthly idea! But, John Carpenter, copied above might now. Hey, John, how about seeing if you have anything. Thanks, Jan
REPLY
Hello Jan & Nancy,
I am sorry for the delay in replying. I wanted to check some things out before answering. I did not get the answer I was looking for however.
In the 1700s, formal adoptions were fairly rare. Legal adoption was mainly used to help designate property or title from a step parent or guardian to the adoptive child or heir. Overwhelmingly adoptions were for males and many were in their teens or older.
How important were "heirs?" The Magna Carta stresses "our heirs for ever" over and over. These "heirs" were designated either by their own loins or by that of others. Just reviewing the Magna Carta and doing a key word search will show you how important this was. See the following web page.
http://eawc.evansville.edu/anthology/magnacarta.htm
It was not until the beginning of the Industrial Revolution that more formal and legal protections were afforded to illegitamate and orphan children. Massachusetts lead the American states in 1851 in standardizing laws for adoption. England didn't do this until 1921. See the following web page for related information.
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/g2699/0003/2699000361/p1/article.jhtml
While some form of adoption has been around for thousands of years to provide for lost, orphan and such children. Many of the noble or great or not-so-great have been adopted. The Babylonian King Hammurabi with his written Code of Hammurabi is the earliest to survive intact with clear definitions of adoption. The following web page has details. I will provide extracts in the following paragraphs.
http://adoption.about.com/library/weekly/aa090699.htm?iam=excite_1&terms=heirs+adopt
"Adoption was very common during the ancient/classical periods, and generally involved adults - to carry on a dynasty, occupation, or family name; to care for a parent in old age, or to protect property rights."
"Perhaps the first well-known reference to adoption (or what we presume to be adoption) is the story of Moses who, as recorded in the Old Testament [Exodus 2:5-10], was adopted by Pharaoh's daughter in the 13th century BC."
"And of course, no adoption story would be complete without mention of Jesus Christ who was adopted by Joseph the Carpenter. According to practices of the times,when Joseph married Mary, he accepted Jesus as his own, which would carry the same legal weight as a modern-day adoption."
"Charles Dickens' 1838 classic wasn't far off the mark. In England, adoption existed, but without standard legal statutes. Other options for orphans, abandoned, and destitute children were workhouses, children's homes, orphanages, and kinship care.
During the time period 1597-1866, it was common for children who had been convicted of crimes to be deported to America or Australia together with adult criminals. And Child Migrants were sent from Britain and Ireland to the colonies as early as 1618. These children, generally between the ages of 5 and 12, were taken from children's homes and orphanages with the express purpose of culturally swamping "the native peoples by increasing the white population." They were often institutionalized or indentured when they arrived, and were notoriously ill-treated."
There is many interesting aspects of adoption. I suggest the following web page for more fascinating reading on the subject.
http://adoption.about.com/cs/historyarticles/index.htm
Now back to the 1700s.
English common law had no codes for adoption. It did for property. For all intents and purposes, people often became property. You could be fined or held liable under the "common law" for your property causing problems. Women were considered property of their husbands.
If you took in a widow, you were responsible for her children. If you took an apprentice (a young child most often), you were responsible for them. The same concept was extended to property, slaves and other indentured children (or adults). Older children often kept their birth surnames. The younger children sometimes were known by both their biological and adoptive surnames.
You could change your name very easily in those times. All you had to do was move to an area where they did not know you and state your version of your name. That was then accepted there.
Elizabeth Townsend-27564 married Lewis Carpenter-22625 on 27 Aug 1775 at St. George's, Church, Hempstead, NY.
On 7 Oct 1786 at the 1st Presbyterian, Church, New York City, NY she married Robert Little later of Horse-Heads, Chemung, NY but noted as of Orange county, NY at that time.
Eleven years had past from her first marriage to her second. The Townsend Memorial says she hadthree children, all males, during this 11 year time period.
Daniel H. Carpenter who compiled the 1901 "Carpenter Family in America" book states that (page 135 notes) that a Mr. William T. Carpenter of Horse-Heads, Chemung, NY wrote in a letter dated November 1893 that his grandfather was Lewis Carpenter (the one who married Elizabeth Townsend-27564) and that his widowed grandmother married Robert Little.
An earlier letter, dated February 1, 1893 from the same person, indicates that Elizabeth Townsend who married Lewis Carpenter had 3 males and 3 female children. See page 134.
To Daniel H. Carpenter's credit he provides the conflicting data. In my CE CD 2001, I do the same. See the attached jpg pictures of his book.
That Robert Little raised his stepchildren seems highly probable. The 3 male sons of Lewis Carpenter went with Lewis Little to the town of Horse-Heads. There they stayed for many years before they began to go different ways.
If Elizabeth Townsend had a child every 2.5 years in her first marriage she would have had about 4 children. Every 2.0 years she would have had 5 1/2 children.
With the information I have, Robert Little was 35 or so when he married the widow. This was probably his second marriage? Who were the children of his first marriage? Is there duplicate names? The widow may have been slightly older and probably still able to bear a few more children.
Question: Phebe Little or Phebe Carpenter? If the 10 Feb 1789 is birth date for the Phebe who married Nathaniel Wright, then we have the answer. If the 10 Feb 1789 date is when she and others were accepted into a Church, then we need to look some for more supporting data.
I hope my long winded excursion with a basic history into adoption was interesting. The reality is that we may never know on some of our ancestors who was and was not adopted informally. At least with Phebe we have a date and a mild debate!
John R. Carpenter
La Mesa, CAMORE:
From: Nancy Taylor
To: John R. Carpenter
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 8:27 AM
Subject: re:Phebe's mother
Dear John,
Thankyou very much for all the information you have provided relative to Phebe Carpenter or Little.It will take a while to digest it all.
I have some for you to throw into the mix.I am sending you 3 pages
(RIN 27564 ELIZ TOWNSEND A,B,C IN MISC PICS - withdrawn)
I am scanning written by George Nathaniel Hauptman(1844-1924),brother of my great grandfather,John Clinton Hauptman(1856-1923) and son of John Foster Hauptman(1819-1901).John Foster married Martha Wright(1820-1905),daughter of Phebe Carpenter or Little and Nathaniel Wright.The handwriting is rather difficult to read,but you can glean some interesting information from it.
I also have a daguerretype of Phebe with a handwritten note inserted into the frame saying,"Mother's mother.Phoebe Wright,born May 5,1789,JCH. JCH was my greatgrandfather ,John Clinton Hauptman.
At any rate,I think this information is as reliable as any that other researchers have included in their books.The Hauptman family lived in the New Hempstead area of Rockland County,NY.
Regards,
Nancy TaylorFINAL:
19 May 2002
Dear Nancy,
Thanks for the copy of the letters.
You wrote: "I think this information is as reliable as any that other researchers have included in their books."
I disagree. You seem to have better information (dates for example) and an excellent source (letter).
I wrote: "If the 10 Feb 1789 is birth date for the Phebe who married Nathaniel Wright, then we have the answer."
Please remember that Daniel H. Carpenter provided conflicting information on Phebe. The further information you have provided, if the 10 Feb 1789 is the birth date, to have settled the matter.
Any chance I can get a scanned copy of the daguerretype of Phebe? (never sent)
John R. Carpenter
La Mesa, CA
See Lewis Carpenter's notes.
SEE: MISC PICS under RIN 27564 (withdrawn)GRAVE: images
Elizabeth Townsend Little
Birth: unknown
Death: 28 Feb 1836
Burial: Warwick Cemetery, Warwick, Orange County, New York, USA
Memorial #: 130199270
Bio:
Aged 76 years
She married Robert Little on Oct 7, 1786.
Their daughter Phebe married Nathaniel Wright who share this family plot.
Family Members
Spouse
Robert Little Unknown-1831
Children
Phebe Little Wright Unknown-1867
Maintained by: DSON1492 (46855689)
Originally Created by: D DeWitt (47056960)
Added: 22 May 2014
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/130199270/elizabeth-little
Citation: Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/130199270/elizabeth-little : accessed 13 May 2022), memorial page for Elizabeth Townsend Little (unknown–28 Feb 1836), Find a Grave Memorial ID 130199270, citing Warwick Cemetery, Warwick, Orange County, New York, USA ; Maintained by DSON1492 (contributor 46855689) .