Group 3 - Descendants of William Carpenter-98-
Father of William Carpenter-584 (b. abt 1605)

Notes

3474. Jesse Carpenter

NOTE:
Jesse is identified in a published recollection as a brother of Jeremiah Carpenter, who is a proved son of Solomon Carpenter based on a county court record. However, due to the questioned reliability of the author of the recollection, it's best to annotate him as "parentage not proven."   
[An]other Jesse was born c1785 (RIN 28439), and is easily separated from this Jesse, but they were merged in online "trees" that have been copied with no analysis being applied and replicated until they make up the majority of the hits in an Ancestry.com search ...  Terry Lee Carpenter

CORRECTION:
From: Terry Carpenter
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 9:57 AM
To: John R. Carpenter
Cc: John Chandler
Subject: Re: N14886's lineage update
Hi John,
The 1796 marriage record for Jesse Carpenter names his bride as Jenny Rife, and there is no record identifying her as Sarah Jane even though many internet trees state that. Her surname was not Wright -- the Rev. John Alderson, who married them, was a literate man, and he spelled Wright correctly in his list of marriages that he performed. Rife was later spelled Riffe -- it was pronounced "riffy" not "ryte."
The Jesse Carpenter who married in 1814 to Margaret Cottrell did not marry in 1796 to Jenny Wright -- he would have been only 11 years old at that time.
Both Jesses were too young to have served in the Revolutionary War. There are 4 Jesse Carpenters with War of 1812 service in Virginia or Ohio. One was the Jesse Carpenter born c1785 who married Margaret, the other three were from other places in Virginia.
The Van Ripper family tree information about the Carpenters is chock full of errors, for example, listing Amos Carpenter who was born 14 Feb 1754 in VA as born in "Lebanon, New London, Connecticut, USA." They cite two references, (1) U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 which are in large part unverified user-contributed say-so information that cannot be accepted at face value; and (2) unverified user-contributed Ancestry Family Trees that are no longer available -- and probably just as well because they most likely cited other Ancestry Family Trees none of which were based on original sources. The many obvious errors make it clear that they have been indiscriminately copying and conflating others' work.
Terry

BOOK: See page 41 (for notes) of the Mowrey 1997 book. See book information
below:
UPDATE OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE NEW ENGLAND CARPENTER FAMILY OF ENGLISH ORIGIN - THE VIRGINIA / WEST VIRGINIA BRANCH - SOME DESCENDANTS OF JOSEPH CARPENTER - PIONEER OF THE JACKSON RIVER - MOWREY"S VERSION.
BY TERRY LEE CARPENTER AND PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
PRO BONO PUBLICO - PRIVATELY PUBLISHED, DOVER, OHIO, 1997.
BY PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
Page 41: 6. Jesse (16) Carpenter was born about 1762, married Sarah Jane
"Jenny" Rife or Riffe on May 3, 1796 and moved to Gallia County, Ohio
immediately thereafter.
He served in the War of 1812 and received a pension (later revoked) for
service in the Revolutionary War under a Captain Trunk. Some researchers
believe (page 42) that Jesse was twice married and that Sarah Jane was his
second wife. Jenny Rite (Wright?) was supposedly his first wife. Jesse's
marriage is yet to be found on any original list by John Alderson, the widely
travelled itinerant minister who supposedly celebrated the rites of matrimony
(Other Carpenter marriages are). Old English script sometimes seems to defy
deciphering and transliterations are very common. Perhaps this is a "second
hand reading". "Jenny" is the usual nickname for Jane. People are
often found with first, middle or nickname in different censuses. Any
legitimate proof of either marriage, particularly a second one, would quickly
eliminate the controversy.

NOTE: Is Jesse short for Nathan?

Jenny Riffe

NAME: Riffe or Rife.  She husband's notes.
AKA: Jenny Rite (Wright?). <--- merged spousal name!?
Father is believed to be Joseph.  However he may have been an uncle.

NOTE:  This was Sarah Jane Riffe, now known as "Jenny Rife", is NOT Jenny Wright who married Jesse Carpenter-28439. Different people. JRC

COMMENT:
The 1796 marriage record for Jesse Carpenter names his bride as Jenny Rife, and there is no record identifying her as Sarah Jane even though many internet trees state that. Her surname was not Wright -- the Rev. John Alderson, who married them, was a literate man, and he spelled Wright correctly in his list of marriages that he performed. Rife was later spelled Riffe -- it was pronounced "riffy" not "ryte."
Terry Lee Carpenter (3 Sep 2018)

3476. Elizabeth "Libby" Carpenter

BOOK: See page 42 (for notes) of the Mowrey 1997 book. See book information
below:
UPDATE OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE NEW ENGLAND CARPENTER FAMILY OF ENGLISH
ORIGIN - THE VIRGINIA / WEST VIRGINIA BRANCH - SOME DESCENDANTS OF JOSEPH
CARPENTER - PIONEER OF THE JACKSON RIVER - MOWREY"S VERSION.
BY TERRY LEE CARPENTER AND PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
PRO BONO PUBLICO - PRIVATELY PUBLISHED, DOVER, OHIO, 1997.
BY PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
Elizabeth sued her father's estate in 1780.  Her son was alive at that time.
No further information known.

3477. Margaret Carpenter

BOOK: See page 42 (for notes) of the Mowrey 1997 book. See book information
below:
UPDATE OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE NEW ENGLAND CARPENTER FAMILY OF ENGLISH
ORIGIN - THE VIRGINIA / WEST VIRGINIA BRANCH - SOME DESCENDANTS OF JOSEPH
CARPENTER - PIONEER OF THE JACKSON RIVER - MOWREY"S VERSION.
BY TERRY LEE CARPENTER AND PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
PRO BONO PUBLICO - PRIVATELY PUBLISHED, DOVER, OHIO, 1997.
BY PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
She moved to Ohio with her husband.  No further information is known.

3480. John Carpenter

NAME: John Carpenter could have been John (F?) Carpenter? See father's notes.
BOOK: See page 42 (for notes) of the Mowrey 1997 book. See book information
below:
UPDATE OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE NEW ENGLAND CARPENTER FAMILY OF ENGLISH
ORIGIN - THE VIRGINIA / WEST VIRGINIA BRANCH - SOME DESCENDANTS OF JOSEPH
CARPENTER - PIONEER OF THE JACKSON RIVER - MOWREY"S VERSION.
BY TERRY LEE CARPENTER AND PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
PRO BONO PUBLICO - PRIVATELY PUBLISHED, DOVER, OHIO, 1997.
BY PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
Page 42: 12. John (16) Carpenter was born circa 1764 on the Jackson River,
served in the Revolutionary War from Botetourt County, Virginia under Captain
John Bowles in 1780, under Captain John McCoy in 1781 and was discharged by
Captain Peter Hull in 1783.  He lived in Greenbrier County in the 1780's, moved
to Harrison County circa 1790 and married Sarah Ratcliff in 1794.   They
resided on Hacker's Creek, Lewis County (and later Roane) before removing to
Washington County, Ohio about 1834 (maybe should be 1824?).
A pension for military service was granted
16 May 1833 but was later revoked. John was an Indian spy in what is now West
Virginia before his marriage and was burned out by the Indians on the frontier
in 1792 (perhaps in the same series of intrusions that saw his brother,
Benjamin, killed by Big Indian and Little Indian on the Elk and Holly
Rivers of Braxton/Webster Counties).

BIRTH: Born in 1764 per pension application. See:  Books, Articles, Wills & such:  RIN 31386 John Carpenter AMREV Pension.pdf

LAND: John (F ?) CARPENTER Greenbrier Co. VA land Grants Sims Land Grant Index.
1787 -  100 acres on Hands Creek; bk 2 p. 3 1792; 200 acres on Swobes Knob;
bk. 2 p. 416 1799 200 acres on Elks Run.    A map of 1861 shows Elk
River coming down out of the Alleghany Mts and connects into Kanawha
River at present day Charleston (which is in Kanawha Co.,W VA  I would
venture to guess that Elk Run is some place off of Elk R. and would also
explain the eventual land owned in Kanawha Co. in the early 1800s.  I
wish that I knew exactly where Swobe's Knob , as well as Hands Creek is
located.2 CONT -- Swobe2 CONT both were in Greenbrier Co. VA at the time and are in present-day Monroe
Co. WV.  Per Terry Lee Carpenter.

8277. Samuel Carpenter

Samuel (17) Carpenter No further information.

3481. Sudna Elizabeth Carpenter

BOOK: See page 42 (for notes) of the Mowrey 1997 book. See book information
below:  Page 52 for family.
UPDATE OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE NEW ENGLAND CARPENTER FAMILY OF ENGLISH
ORIGIN - THE VIRGINIA / WEST VIRGINIA BRANCH - SOME DESCENDANTS OF JOSEPH
CARPENTER - PIONEER OF THE JACKSON RIVER - MOWREY"S VERSION.
BY TERRY LEE CARPENTER AND PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
PRO BONO PUBLICO - PRIVATELY PUBLISHED, DOVER, OHIO, 1997.
BY PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
Page 42: 13. Sudna Elizabeth (16) Carpenter was born about 1765, married Samuel
Tanner on November 28, 1791 and died after 1850. Sudna's brother, Thomas, was
the bondsman for this marriage in Harrison County, Virginia. Samuel Tanner was
a veteran of the Revolutionary War (Jesse (16) Carpenter was one of his
testators when Sam made his pension application, but didn't receive any land
grant or pension (page 43) because he had not served long enough).  These
Tanners, along with a man named Jonathan Wolfe and a boy called "Tate", are
credited with being the founders of Spencer, seat of Roane County, West
Virginia. They are variously said to have lived in Harrison, Wood, Jackson and
Roane Counties. Aside from a brief stay in Gallia County, Ohio near her
brother, Jesse, they never moved, but the counties did!

CHILDREN: Page 52-54: Children of Sudna Elizabeth (16) Carpenter, of Solomon
(15), of Joseph (14):
       1. William Tanner was born about 1790. No further information.
       2. Jesse "Ike" Tanner was born circa 1795, married 1st Mary "Polly"
Carpenter 14 August 1820 in Mason County (Mary was a daughter of Jesse and
Sarah Jane Riffe Carpenter) and 2nd Judith Carpenter (Judy was a daughter of
Jeremiah and Elizabeth Hamm Carpenter) circa 1837. All of Jesse and Judith
Carpenter Tanner's children 1837-1846 listed their parents as Jesse and Judy
Tanner when they married.  Judy died 10 October 1859 and is reportedly buried
in the "Old Tanner Cemetery" on Craig Ridge.  Mary Carpenter Tanner died in
childbirth with her last child, William, and is supposedly buried in the same
graveyard. Jesse Tanner married 3rd Lucinda Raines 11 February 1860 and died 26
March 1885. Lucinda was a daughter of Uriah and Massie (Hughes) Gandee, a widow
of Abraham Raines and a first cousin, but
once removed, to Jesse Tanner through the Hughes family. They are buried in the
Memorial Gardens Cemetery at Spencer, West Virginia. Jesse and Lucinda's (Page
52) children, 1862-1872, all listed their parents as Jesse and Lucy or Lucinda
when they married. Parental listings offer substantial proof of whom Jesse
Tanner married and
when he married them.
    3. Joseph Tanner married Nancy Miller 17 August 1821 in Mason County,
Virginia- now West Virginia. Joseph and Jesse Tanners' marriage records are
found in Point Pleasant (Reverend Benjamin Wright's original records may be
inspected in Cottageville), West Virginia. This Nancy Miller has not been
linked with the pioneers,
Samuel and/or Joshua Miller, and remains unidentified as far as family is
concerned.
    4. James Tanner was born circa 1800 and married Nancy (surname unknown).
    5. Elijah Tanner was born about 1802 and married Marian King 29 August
1833. (This woman's name is also found as Mary A. and Mary Ann.)
    6. Mary Tanner was born around 1810. No further information.
    7. Elizabeth Tanner was born circa 1812 and married Benjamin Wright.
    8. Louise Tanner married Basil Miller. No further information.
    9.There was at least one other child in this family- perhaps an
?Artimethia?
    Samuel Tanner, Sudna Elizabeth Carpenter, Jonathan Wolfe, and a boy called
"Tate" were supposedly the first settlers in what is now Spencer, West Virginia
in 1812 (Jesse Carpenter's oldest son, Thomas, was fifteen years old at that
time and was nicknamed "Tater"). They had heard very enticing stories about the
area and its wonderful spring from Tanner's brothers-in-law, Jesse Hughes and
Jesse Carpenter, and had decided to sojourn there to see what it was like and
perhaps settle.
   It seemed to be an ideal place to homestead. There was a huge overhanging
rock shelf (variously called "the Cliffs", "Carpenter's Cave" et cetera), the
beautiful spring, a nearby creek (Tanner's Run) and abundant game in the
surrounding forest.
   There were even gigantic sugar trees in the "bottoms" for maple syrup in
March if things went well. Logs were cut and stood on end between ground and
ceiling to form the outside wall and brush was piled against it for insulation
and to shed water. Other logs were split to make "puncheon" table and chairs,
dry leaves were piled in the corners to serve as beds and a fire pit made so
that most of the smoke would go out through a crevice in the roof. A small
field had been cleared and enough corn planted to see them through the winter
(squash and "lazy wife" beans were interspersed with the "eight rows white"
corn to provide other preservable foodstuff).
   A sturdy cabin was built where the Roane County courthouse now stands the
following spring and Elizabeth, supposedly the Tanners" first child, was born.
Other Carpenters and Tanners as well as Runnions and Millers inhabited the
region shortly (page 53) thereafter. It would be unusual to find many people in
Roane County, even today, who are not related in some way to at least one of
these old founding families.
   The cliffs are still there on the campus of old Spencer High School but are
no more than a shadow of their original selves. Because of the danger to the
children, much of the shelf was broken off deliberately. There is a movement
afoot to preserve them. In their "heyday" the cave consisted of two rooms, side
by side with a partition of rock in between. The larger room must have been
some fifteen feet deep and thirty feet long with an eight foot ceiling, The
smaller room was just as deep but perhaps only half as long and served as a
stable for livestock, especially the family's milk cow.

Samuel Tanner

SAMUEL & SUDAH (CARPENTER) MARRIAGE RECORDED MARR. BK.#1, PG 15 BOND BY
SAMUEL & THOMAS CARPENTER. STATE OF VIRGINIA.
Sidney Carpenter on marriage record not Sudna, m. by Rev. Joseph
Cheuvront.

NOTE: There is, at times, heated discussion of who was Samuel's spouse(s).
All can agree on "Sudna or Sidney or both." Who were her parents is another
question.  So I will list 2 spouses until further detail can come out.

E-MAIL:
From: Rick Greathouse
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 3:30 PM
To: John R. Carpenter
Subject: Samuel Tanner
You may have Samuel Tanner's deposition for Rev War pension...Thanks,Rick Greathouserick@greathouse.us Archivist/Historian/WebmasterGreathouse PointHome of Guild GreathouseAdminGreathouse DNA Project

E-MAIL:
From: Rick Greathouse
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 3:07 PM
To: John R Carpenter
Subject: Re: Tanners, Carpenters and such, Oh My!

We have a mess with John Greathouse Sr. who married Sarah McDade. She was the daughter of James McDade and Rachel Tanner. Rachel Tanner was the daughter of Edward & Rachel [maiden name unknown] Tanner and a sister to Samuel Tanner who married Sudna Carpenter.

My lineage goes through Rachel Tanner and Samuel Tanner.

Edward & Rachel ? Tanner

..Rachel Tanner & James McDade

....Sarah McDade & John Greathouse Sr.

......Edward Greathouse & Elizabeth Matilda Blosser

........Isaac B. Greathouse & Sarah Tanner

..........Ervin M. Greathouse & Effie Leveary Webb

............Paul "Dick" Greathouse & Zadia Dale Price

..............Paul Richard Greathouse & Sharon Kay Boggs

................Richard Ivan Greathouse -> me

..Samuel Tanner & Sudna Carpenter

....Jesse Tanner & Judith Carpenter

......Sarah Tanner & Isaac B. Greathouse

........Ervin M. Greathouse & Effie Leveary Webb

..........Paul "Dick" Greathouse & Zadia Dale Price

............Paul Richard Greathouse & Sharon Kay Boggs

..............Richard Ivan Greathouse -> me

John Greathouse Sr. appeared near Evans, WV about 17 Sep 1806 when he announced his intentions to marry Sarah McDade in a marriage bond. It is almost like he walked out of of cloud leaving no trace to where he was residing before arrived at Evans, WV. Based on records he had the opportunity to state his age on between 1810 and 1866, he appears to have been born between March 1778 and 1782. If he was born in March 1778, then he was conceived about 9 months prior in June 1777, which would suggest his father was alive in June 1777, but perhaps not alive when he was born about March 1778. The only record which supports a March 1778 birth would be his headstone with inscription given by his son Edward Greathouse who ordered the headstone from a stone cutter in Ravenswood. I am thinking that Edward Greathouse may have become aware that his father was somewhat older than his father related to a Justice of the Peace, age 74 in 1856, so born about 1782.

There is some interesting individuals named in the household of John & Sarah McDade Greathouse as farm laborers in the 1850 census, Mordecai Stackhouse and Lewis Stackhouse. Mordecai was the son of Rohanah Greathouse who married John Stackhouse in Harrison County, VA in 1798. Lewis, son of Aaron Stackhouse was a grandson of Rohanah Greathouse Stackhouse.

I think that Rohanah Greathouse Stackhouse, Mordecai Stackhouse and Lewis Stackhouse knew what relationship John Greathouse Sr. was to them, but we don't.

If John Greathouse Sr. was born about March 1778, then there are two Greathouse males who died between 27 Sep 1777 and March 1778, who could have been the father of John Greathouse Sr.. Jacob Greathouse was killed during the Indian ambush of Cpt. William Foreman's Company on 27 Sep 1777. Daniel Greathouse was deceased by March 1778, when his brother John Greathouse was appointed administrator of the estate of Daniel Greathouse deceased.

Daniel Greathouse can be excluded from candidates who could have been the father of John Greathouse Sr. based on:

1799 - Paris District Court: Chancery Case # 3166, Gabriel Greathouse vs Andrew McCreery, Mary McCreery, Richard Morris and others
http://greathouse.us/archives/usa/ky/bourbon/1799-dep-greathouse-gabriel.htm

Allan W. Eckert was the first to conclude that Daniel Greathouse and Jacob Greathouse were brothers. I really hate to burst the bubble for the rest of the Greathouses who want to believe this, but it just is not so. I would grant that they were probably first cousins.

Johannes Adolph Grothaus & Anna Amelia Miller

..Johannes Grothaus, born 1721, moved to Philadelphia City about 1745 where he raised his family.

....Johannes Grothaus, born about 1745

....Maria Dorothea Grothaus, born about 1747, married Johannes Cramp in 1770, baptized children at German Reformed Church, Philadelphia City in 1772 [daughter], 1774 [daughter] and 1776 [Jacob].

....Jacob Grothaus, born about 1749, married Catharina Sybilla ? about 1770, baptized son Jacob on 5 Feb 1771 at St. Michael's and Zion Church, Philadelphia City. Worked as journeyman tanner with George Cooper, tanner, 3rd Street, Philadelphia City through March 1771.

....Henry Grothaus, born about 1750, may have been illegitimate Grothaus child baptized at German Reformed Church in May 1750, was renting lot in Middle Ward from John Ross in 1774.

..Herman Greathouse & Mary Stull

....John Greathouse, born 1752, m. Elizabeth

....Daniel Greathouse, born 1754, m. Mary Morris at Bruceton Mills about 1776.

......Gabriel Greathouse, born Jan 1777

Rick Greathouse
rick@greathouse.us

3482. Samuel Carpenter

AF has father as Soloman.  However Soloman may have been an uncle.  NFD.
Not in the Mowrey 1997 book!

8281. Rebbeca Carpenter

Rebecca (17) Carpenter was born 18 March 1798 and married Adam
Persinger before 1842. No further information.

8282. Joseph Carpenter

Joseph (17) Carpenter was born 3 June 1800, died 27 November 1874 and
married on 29 September in Boone County, Missouri, Arabella Davis, daughter of
Daniel and Lucinda (Hawkins) Davis. She was born 18 June 1812 and moved to
Boone County circa 1825. Joseph Carpenter was a twin.

Mary Evelyn Harlow Carpenter, wife of Joseph H. Carpenter, 3rd great
grandson of Joseph (14) Carpenter, wrote The Carpenters of Fort Carpenter,
1746- 1949 (privately published at Covington, VA, cl949).
It is a valuable work on one line of descent from Joseph the pioneer
but virtually impossible to obtain. The author was fortunate
enough to borrow Fort Carpenter's only copy for xeroxing during a 1989
visitation and return the original at his convenience by insured parcel post.

8283. Mary or Polly Carpenter

Mary "Polly" (17) Carpenter (Joseph (17)'s twin) was born 3 June 1800,
never married and died 23 October 1828.
The question is did she stay in VA or move to Boone county, MO about 1825?

8284. Martha Carpenter

Martha (17) Carpenter was born 25 December 1802 and married John
Mallow before 1842. No further information.

8285. Sarah or Sally Carpenter

Sarah "Sallie" (17) Carpenter was born 13 March 1805 and married William
Brunnerner before 1842. No further information.

8286. Elizabeth Carpenter

Elizabeth was never married.

8287. Jane "Jenney" Carpenter

Jane "Jenny" (17) Carpenter was born on 26 October 1809 and married
Isaac Tackett before 1842. No further information.

3491. Jesse Carpenter

PARENTS:
Claimed as:
William Carpenter b. abt 1727 NY - d. 10 Oct 1763 VA
_____ Pringle b. abt 1727 ? - d. ?  ?
Challenged as:
Solomon Carpenter b. 1714 NY - d. 1783 VA
Sudna Hughes b. 1725 PA - d. 1792 VA
NO DOCUMENT citing proof.

COMMENT:  
Two possible Jesse Carpenter combined below?  See 1830 US Census info below.
THIS IS NOT the Jesse Carpenter (RIN 5345) with the parents noted as challenged above.

CORRECTIONS:
From: Terry Carpenter
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 9:57 AM
To: John R. Carpenter
Cc: John Chandler
Subject: Re: N14886's lineage update
Hi John,
The 1796 marriage record for Jesse Carpenter (RIN 5345) names his bride as Jenny Rife, and there is no record identifying her as Sarah Jane even though many internet trees state that. Her surname was not Wright -- the Rev. John Alderson, who married them, was a literate man, and he spelled Wright correctly in his list of marriages that he performed. Rife was later spelled Riffe -- it was pronounced "riffy" not "ryte."
The Jesse Carpenter who married in 1814 to Margaret Cottrell did not marry in 1796 to Jenny Wright -- he would have been only 11 years old at that time.
Both Jesses were too young to have served in the Revolutionary War. There are 4 Jesse Carpenters with War of 1812 service in Virginia or Ohio. One was the Jesse Carpenter born c1785 who married Margaret, the other three were from other places in Virginia.
The Van Ripper family tree information about the Carpenters is chock full of errors, for example, listing Amos Carpenter who was born 14 Feb 1754 in VA as born in "Lebanon, New London, Connecticut, USA." They cite two references, (1) U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 which are in large part unverified user-contributed say-so information that cannot be accepted at face value; and (2) unverified user-contributed Ancestry Family Trees that are no longer available -- and probably just as well because they most likely cited other Ancestry Family Trees none of which were based on original sources. The many obvious errors make it clear that they have been indiscriminately copying and conflating others' work.
Terry

Older notes follow.

NOTE:
He married twice. First wife's name is unknown, it may have been Polly.
He served as an Indian spy during the Revolution, under Major William Lowther
and in Col. Joseph Crockett's Regiment. This regiment was called Illinois as
it was under George Rogers Clark which went to Ohio country to subdue the
Indians at at Vincennes. These soldiers protected the Continental Army from
having to fight on two fronts. IE the Indians in the west and the British in
the east. Jesse also served in the War of 1812.
Braxton county, Virginia is now in West Virginia.

CHILDREN:
Elizabeth, Jesse, Nancy and James added from:
Van Ripper Family Tree   <---------- See CORRECTIONS
http://www.vanriper.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=vanriper&view=0&pid=26720&rand=52178330
SEE ALSO:
https://vanriper.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=vanriper&view=0&pid=29653&ver=15801

BOOK: extracted pages - in the book section of the CE.
History of Braxton County and central West Virginia by Sutton, John Davison, 1844-1941, Published 1919 in Sutton, WV,  476 pages.  USE CAUTION!  

.................................................

MARRIAGE: 1796 - Per CORRECTIONS TLC  indicates this was Jesse C-5345
Name: Jesse Carpenter
Spouse: Janny Wright
Marriage Date: 3 May 1796
Marriage Location: Greenbrier County, Virginia
Source Information
Dodd, Jordan. Virginia, Compiled Marriages, 1660-1800 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 1997.
Original data: Dodd, Jordan, comp.. Virginia Marriages to 1800. Electronic transcription of marriage records held by the individual counties in Virginia.

MILITARY:  War of 1812
Date Enlisted: 6 Sep 1814
Date Discharged: 30 Jun 1815
Info from pension documents below.

MILITARY:  1814 - image
Name: Jesse Carpenter
Birthyear: abt 1787  <-----------------
Birthplace: Virginia, United States
Enlistment Age: 27  
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S. Army, Register of Enlistments, 1798-1914 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007.
Original data: Register of Enlistments in the U.S. Army, 1798-1914; (National Archives Microfilm Publication M233, 81 rolls); Records of the Adjutant General’s Office, 1780’s-1917, Record Group 94; National Archives, Washington, D.C.
NOTE:  Per image ...
Number, name, rank, Regiment, Company, Company Commander, Regimental Commander, Height in feet, inches, eyes, hair, complexion, age, occupation, Town or County Born, State born, (Next Page), when enlisted, where, by whom, period, Remarks.
2231, Carpenter, Jesse, Private, 2nd US Rifles, Capt. B. Harrison,, 5', 7", dark, sandy, fair, 27, Laborer, Harrison Co. Va, (next page) Sept 6 1814, (from) G(H?)alipolis, Lt. Miller, War, DR Feby. 16 & DR Malden NC April 15 1815 Present - Discharged at Detroit June 30, 1815 - term expired - See pension case.

LAND - Bounty Land for service in the War of 1812  - images
Name: Jesse Carpenter
Warrant Number: 25017
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S. War Bounty Land Warrants, 1789-1858 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007.
Original data:
U.S. Revolutionary War Bounty Land Warrants Used in the U.S. Military District of Ohio and Relating Papers (Acts of 1788, 1803, and 1806), 1788-1806; Microfilm Publication M829, 16 rolls; ARC ID: 635444. Records of the Bureau of Land Management, Record Group 49; National Archives at Washington, D.C.
War of 1812 Military Bounty Land Warrants, 1815-1858; Microfilm Publication M848, 14 rolls; ARC ID: 4923870. Records of the Bureau of Land Management, Record Group 49; National Archives at Washington, D.C.
NOTE:
Per Warrant image a Jesse Carpenter was a private in the company of Captain B. Harrison of the 2nd Regiment of US Riflemen and entitled to 160 acres of land for his service. Warrant No. 25017 - Dated 19 Feb 1822.
On the registered warrant list it shows:
Name, Vol., Page, Section, Township, Range, Warrant number
Jesse Carpenter, 8, 299, SE(?) 21, 6N., 16 W., 25017

CENSUS: 1830 US Census - 2 different aged Jesse Carpenter enumerated!
The first b. abt 1771 to 1780 and the second b. abt 1781 to 1790. These could be father and son, but maybe uncle and nephew instead?  The first one barely matches the Jesse we are working on.
1)
Name: Jesse Carpenter
Home in 1830 (City, County, State): Kanawha, Virginia
Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 50 thru 59: 1  <--- b. abt 1771 to 1780
Free White Persons - Females - Under 5: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: 3
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 14: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29: 1
Free White Persons - Under 20: 7
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 1
Total Free White Persons: 9
Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored): 9
Source Citation
1830; Census Place: Kanawha, Virginia; Series: M19; Roll: 191; Page: 186; Family History Library Film: 0029670
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1830 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
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Original data: Fifth Census of the United States, 1830. (NARA microfilm publication M19, 201 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
2)
Name: Josse Carpenter  [Jesse Carpenter]    Per CORRECTIONS - A third Jesse Carpenter married Margaret Cottrell in 1814 and he was born c1785.  Likely this person.
Home in 1830 (City, County, State): Kanawha, Virginia
Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 40 thru 49: 1  <--- b. abt 1781 to 1790
Free White Persons - Females - Under 5: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29: 1
Free White Persons - Under 20: 2
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 2
Total Free White Persons: 4
Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored): 4
Source Citation
1830; Census Place: Kanawha, Virginia; Series: M19; Roll: 191; Page: 187; Family History Library Film: 0029670
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1830 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: Fifth Census of the United States, 1830. (NARA microfilm publication M19, 201 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.

PENSION: 1833  - images   (Granted then denied due to cause!)
Name: Jesse Carpenter
Pension Year: 1833
Application State: Virginia
Archive Publication Number: M804
Archive Roll Number: 475
Total Pages in Packet: 10
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Application Files, 1800-1900 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
Original data: Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Application Files (NARA microfilm publication M804, 2,670 rolls). Records of the Department of Veterans Affairs, Record Group 15. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
NOTE:  
Given a pension and acknowledged as a Revolutionary War Soldier listed in Volume VII of the Report of the Secretary of War, page 74, 1835. Then it was later declared invalid and stopped on 16 Mar 1836. Reason is that investigation by witnesses claimed he was too young to have served.
Jesse served as a private in the VA militia under Captain Trunk's Company of Virginia for 2 years.
The five testimonies include a Nicholas Carpenter, relationship unknown. See filmstrip number 515 of 825.  A note (518 of 825) indicates Jesse was 83 in 1834 making him born about 1750ish. They same note indicates a Jesse was 74 in 1835 making him born about 1760ish.  

PENSION:  1833-1849 - images  
Name: Jesse Carpenter
Year Range: 1833-1849
Pension Office Place: Virginia, USA
Source Citation
The National Archives; Washington, D.C.; Ledgers of Payments, 1818-1872, to U.S. Pensioners Under Acts of 1818 Through 1858 From Records of the Office of the Third Auditor of the Treasury; Record Group Title: Records of the Accounting Officers of the Department of the Treasury; Record Group Number: 217; Series Number: T718; Roll Number: 5
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Revolutionary War Pensioners, 1801-1815, 1818-1872 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2007.
Original data:
Ledgers of Payments, 1818-1872, to U.S. Pensioners Under Acts of 1818 Through 1858 From Records of the Office of the Third Auditor of the Treasury, 1818-1872. NARA microform publication T718. 23 rolls. Records of the Accounting Officers of the Department of the Treasury, 1775-1978, Record Group 217. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
Pension Payment Roll of Veterans of the Revolutionary War and the Regular Army and Navy, 3/1801 - 9/1815. NARA microform publication M1786. 1 Roll. NAI: 2600769. Records of the Department of Veterans Affairs, 1773–2007, Record Group 15. The National Archives at Washington, D.C.
NOTE:
The image (316 of 405) indicates that Jesse Carpenter got a pension in March and September 1833 then it was stopped after March 1834.   (4 4 1)

CENSUS: 1840 US Census

PENSION:  1843 include death date and widow's death date.
Soldier: Jesse Carpenter
Widow: Margaret Carpenter   <----------- married Margaret Cottrell in 1814 per TLC
Marriage Date: 1814
Date Enlisted: 6 Sep 1814
Date Discharged: 30 Jun 1815
Soldier's Death Date: Jun 1843
Soldier's Death Place: Braxton Co, W VA
Military Service Location: United States
Widow's Death Date: 24 Nov 1880
Pension Number - #1: WO 38491
Pension Number - #2: WC 30979
Bounty Land Number - #1: 25017 160 12
Roll number: 16
Archive Publication Number: M313
Source Information
Ancestry.com. War of 1812 Pension Application Files Index, 1812-1815 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010.
Original data: War of 1812 Pension Applications. Washington D.C.: National Archives. NARA Microfilm Publication M313, 102 rolls. Records of the Department of Veterans Affairs, Record Group Number 15.

CENSUS: 1850 US Census

CENSUS: 1860 US Census

CENSUS: 1870 US Census
CENSUS: 1880 US Census

8291. Stephen Carpenter

Stephen (17) Carpenter was born about 1806 in Jackson County, married
Susanna Westfall 19 November 1829 in Lewis County and died after 1870 in Roane.

Margaret Cottrell

PENSION: War of 1812 - see more details on husband's notes.
Soldier: Jesse Carpenter
Widow: Margaret Carpenter <--------------
Marriage Date: 1814   <---------------
Date Enlisted: 6 Sep 1814
Date Discharged: 30 Jun 1815
Soldier's Death Date: Jun 1843
Soldier's Death Place: Braxton Co, W VA
Military Service Location: United States
Widow's Death Date: 24 Nov 1880  <--------------
Pension Number - #1: WO 38491
Pension Number - #2: WC 30979
Bounty Land Number - #1: 25017 160 12
Roll number: 16
Archive Publication Number: M313
Source Information
Ancestry.com. War of 1812 Pension Application Files Index, 1812-1815 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010.
Original data: War of 1812 Pension Applications. Washington D.C.: National Archives. NARA Microfilm Publication M313, 102 rolls. Records of the Department of Veterans Affairs, Record Group Number 15.

PARENTS:
Thomas Cottrell Sr. 1762–1850 •  FSFT#  L2WW-2XG​​
Marriage: 22 February 1791 Harrison, West Virginia, United States
Mary Polly O'Brien 1770–1850 • FSFT#  L5KL-5LW

8292. Susan Runnion

May have belonged to first marriage?
Susan (17) Carpenter was born circa 1816 in Jackson County, married
David Reed, Jr. in Lewis County 29 June 1837 and died after 1860 in Roane
County.

8294. Martha Runnion

Martha (17) Carpenter was born 1817-1820 and was unmarried in 1860.

3493. Sudna Sidney Carpenter

In this record their is two Sudna Carpenters who married Samuel Tanner on the
same date.  One of the Sudnas is in error and should be Sidney who married
Samuel Tanner on 5 Dec. 1791 per the History of Harrison County, West Virginia.

Samuel Tanner

SAMUEL & SUDAH (CARPENTER) MARRIAGE RECORDED MARR. BK.#1, PG 15 BOND BY
SAMUEL & THOMAS CARPENTER. STATE OF VIRGINIA.
Sidney Carpenter on marriage record not Sudna, m. by Rev. Joseph
Cheuvront.

NOTE: There is, at times, heated discussion of who was Samuel's spouse(s).
All can agree on "Sudna or Sidney or both." Who were her parents is another
question.  So I will list 2 spouses until further detail can come out.

E-MAIL:
From: Rick Greathouse
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 3:30 PM
To: John R. Carpenter
Subject: Samuel Tanner
You may have Samuel Tanner's deposition for Rev War pension...Thanks,Rick Greathouserick@greathouse.us Archivist/Historian/WebmasterGreathouse PointHome of Guild GreathouseAdminGreathouse DNA Project

E-MAIL:
From: Rick Greathouse
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 3:07 PM
To: John R Carpenter
Subject: Re: Tanners, Carpenters and such, Oh My!

We have a mess with John Greathouse Sr. who married Sarah McDade. She was the daughter of James McDade and Rachel Tanner. Rachel Tanner was the daughter of Edward & Rachel [maiden name unknown] Tanner and a sister to Samuel Tanner who married Sudna Carpenter.

My lineage goes through Rachel Tanner and Samuel Tanner.

Edward & Rachel ? Tanner

..Rachel Tanner & James McDade

....Sarah McDade & John Greathouse Sr.

......Edward Greathouse & Elizabeth Matilda Blosser

........Isaac B. Greathouse & Sarah Tanner

..........Ervin M. Greathouse & Effie Leveary Webb

............Paul "Dick" Greathouse & Zadia Dale Price

..............Paul Richard Greathouse & Sharon Kay Boggs

................Richard Ivan Greathouse -> me

..Samuel Tanner & Sudna Carpenter

....Jesse Tanner & Judith Carpenter

......Sarah Tanner & Isaac B. Greathouse

........Ervin M. Greathouse & Effie Leveary Webb

..........Paul "Dick" Greathouse & Zadia Dale Price

............Paul Richard Greathouse & Sharon Kay Boggs

..............Richard Ivan Greathouse -> me

John Greathouse Sr. appeared near Evans, WV about 17 Sep 1806 when he announced his intentions to marry Sarah McDade in a marriage bond. It is almost like he walked out of of cloud leaving no trace to where he was residing before arrived at Evans, WV. Based on records he had the opportunity to state his age on between 1810 and 1866, he appears to have been born between March 1778 and 1782. If he was born in March 1778, then he was conceived about 9 months prior in June 1777, which would suggest his father was alive in June 1777, but perhaps not alive when he was born about March 1778. The only record which supports a March 1778 birth would be his headstone with inscription given by his son Edward Greathouse who ordered the headstone from a stone cutter in Ravenswood. I am thinking that Edward Greathouse may have become aware that his father was somewhat older than his father related to a Justice of the Peace, age 74 in 1856, so born about 1782.

There is some interesting individuals named in the household of John & Sarah McDade Greathouse as farm laborers in the 1850 census, Mordecai Stackhouse and Lewis Stackhouse. Mordecai was the son of Rohanah Greathouse who married John Stackhouse in Harrison County, VA in 1798. Lewis, son of Aaron Stackhouse was a grandson of Rohanah Greathouse Stackhouse.

I think that Rohanah Greathouse Stackhouse, Mordecai Stackhouse and Lewis Stackhouse knew what relationship John Greathouse Sr. was to them, but we don't.

If John Greathouse Sr. was born about March 1778, then there are two Greathouse males who died between 27 Sep 1777 and March 1778, who could have been the father of John Greathouse Sr.. Jacob Greathouse was killed during the Indian ambush of Cpt. William Foreman's Company on 27 Sep 1777. Daniel Greathouse was deceased by March 1778, when his brother John Greathouse was appointed administrator of the estate of Daniel Greathouse deceased.

Daniel Greathouse can be excluded from candidates who could have been the father of John Greathouse Sr. based on:

1799 - Paris District Court: Chancery Case # 3166, Gabriel Greathouse vs Andrew McCreery, Mary McCreery, Richard Morris and others
http://greathouse.us/archives/usa/ky/bourbon/1799-dep-greathouse-gabriel.htm

Allan W. Eckert was the first to conclude that Daniel Greathouse and Jacob Greathouse were brothers. I really hate to burst the bubble for the rest of the Greathouses who want to believe this, but it just is not so. I would grant that they were probably first cousins.

Johannes Adolph Grothaus & Anna Amelia Miller

..Johannes Grothaus, born 1721, moved to Philadelphia City about 1745 where he raised his family.

....Johannes Grothaus, born about 1745

....Maria Dorothea Grothaus, born about 1747, married Johannes Cramp in 1770, baptized children at German Reformed Church, Philadelphia City in 1772 [daughter], 1774 [daughter] and 1776 [Jacob].

....Jacob Grothaus, born about 1749, married Catharina Sybilla ? about 1770, baptized son Jacob on 5 Feb 1771 at St. Michael's and Zion Church, Philadelphia City. Worked as journeyman tanner with George Cooper, tanner, 3rd Street, Philadelphia City through March 1771.

....Henry Grothaus, born about 1750, may have been illegitimate Grothaus child baptized at German Reformed Church in May 1750, was renting lot in Middle Ward from John Ross in 1774.

..Herman Greathouse & Mary Stull

....John Greathouse, born 1752, m. Elizabeth

....Daniel Greathouse, born 1754, m. Mary Morris at Bruceton Mills about 1776.

......Gabriel Greathouse, born Jan 1777

Rick Greathouse
rick@greathouse.us

8303. Elizabeth Tanner

Was there two Elizabeth Tanners in this family?  One died young?
Elizabeth Tanner was born circa 1812 and married Benjamin Wright.

8305. Joseph Tanner

Joseph Tanner married Nancy Miller 17 August 1821 in Mason County,
Virginia- now West Virginia. Joseph and Jesse Tanners' marriage records are
found in Point Pleasant (Reverend Benjamin Wright's original records may be
inspected in Cottageville), West Virginia. This Nancy Miller has not been
linked with the pioneers, Samuel and/or Joshua Miller, and remains
unidentified as far as family is concerned.
Nancy Miller probably married Joseph Carpenter also.

Nancy Miller

Two Millers listed.  Nancy Miller & ? Miller. Probably the same but maybe
sisters?

8310. Artimethia Tanner

There was at least one other child in this family- perhaps an ?Artimethia?

8311. Louise Tanner

Louise Tanner married Basil Miller. No further information.

8312. Mary Wright

Mary Tanner was born around 1810. No further information.

3495. Soloman Carpenter

Solomon Carpenter Compact Disc #13 Pin #4773

Hannah

Hannah Carpenter Compact Disc #13 Pin #4774

3496. John F. Carpenter

CAUTION:  
Different parents given as per received earlier. Spouses uncertain!

ANCESTRY:  Carpenter Family by Bette Carpenter
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/154520585/person/132049372233/facts

Parents
Thomas Carpenter  1750–1819
Margaret  1750–

Spouse
Mary Polly Major  1780–1840

Spouse & Children
Mary "Polly" Wheeler  1775–
Alexander A Carpenter  1792–1868
Alexander Carpenter

Spouse & Children
Private
William Carpenter  1815–1849

Ancestry Sources
1820 United States Federal Census
1830 United States Federal Census
1840 United States Federal Census
Ancestry Family Trees
Virginia, Compiled Marriages, 1660-1800
Virginia, Compiled Marriages, 1740-1850
West Virginia, Wills and Probate Records, 1724-1985

3503. Zophar Carpenter

CAUTION:
HIGHLY LIKELY intermixed data with father of the same name. AND THAT THEY ARE ONE AND THE SAME.  OR This Zophar is really Robert the son of Zophar Carpenter-5754.

NOT listed in in the Carpenter Family in America book of 1901.

CLAIM:
Zophar, Jr. was a drummer in Capt. Dickerson's Rangers in Augusta  Va.
He was a Patriot, he served in the Revolutionary War.
This Zophar is not mentioned in his father's 1794 will indicating he died
previously.  Descendants of Zopher supplied by :
Charles Carpenter of Pocatello, Idaho  83204.
WARNING:
Gerald Reid Tudor indicates that there was only one Zophar Carpenter and Charles has
the two Zophar families intermixed.

E-MAIL: Some misc. info:
>From: "GT" Now at: g2door@roadrunner.com
>Subject: Zophar
>Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 13:28:44 -0400
>She died Aug. 14th A.D. 1832 Aged 97  years.
>An  inventory was taken at Mary Carpenters later.
>This means he was in the area earlier.
>  "" meant and  to who?
>Zophoe Carpenter appointed Surveyor of the Road, in room  of
>William Wooley, who is discharged from that office.
>Zopher appointed Surveyor of the Road from Fort Defiance (Boyle's Allum
>Rock)  and the tithables who usually wrought thereon do attend him.
>   & c.
>It is unlikely that he served again as a Drummer).
>(later research by Oma Glasburn Robinson and others proves the
>original record  to say Zopher instead of Joseph).
>Furnished supplies to the  soldiers-wheat, corn, and one time
>400lbs. of beef. (does not say for what  war).
>Zophar in court due to indebtedness to Israel Christian  incurred on the
>21st of Dec1765 for one shilling six pence for three Jews  Harps.
>   "  " the above individuals).
>Zophar first  appears in the Madison Co., VA tax list. (This is one year
>before Madison Co.  became a Kentucky County.)
>(Later, seven acres of the 300 would be claimed by the Ambrose
>Ross estate which joined to the south. This was taken into consideration
>when  Rufus Carpenter had the land surveyed in  1846.
>Her husband, also a descendant, owns another joining 10 or  13
>acres.  Officials  then could not verify the marriage as the
>minister did not make a return to the  court house.
> ""        It is possible that  the mother of Rachel Reed Carpenter
>was a Davis, and that the McCarthy belongs  to Mary, wife of Zophar. (NO
>PROOF) If Zophar married his step-mother, is it
>likely that they would name a second son Rufus and possibly a daughter
>Mary?  For the children  of Zophar and Mary, they will be forth
>coming in other notes.        4Jul1998

CENSUS:  1820 US Census - NOTE - this was once claimed as being Zophar. But is clearly just a Z.
Name: Z Carpenter
Event Place: Garrard, Garrard, Kentucky
Page Number: 120
Affiliate Publication Number: M33
Affiliate Film Number: 21
GS Film number: 0186181
Digital Folder Number: 004433283
Image Number: 00136
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1820," index and images, (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XHLR-N5S : accessed 03 May 2014), Z Carpenter, Garrard, Garrard, Kentucky; citing "1820 United States Federal Census,"  p. 120, NARA microfilm publication M33, roll 21, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 0186181.
NOTE:  Next door is a Jeny Carpenter

8316. Mary Carpenter

MARRIAGE: m. 11May1792:   Mary Carpenter married Alexander Boyle, son of John Boyle.   John's  daughter, Ann, later married Zenith Carpenter on 23 Mar 1793. These are neighbors and have close ties in land transactions.

E-MAIL: Wed, 6 Jun 2001  From: "Timothy Bell"
Thank you for letting me know about the cd set. My ancestor Alexander Boyle, son of Major John Boyle and Jane Black Boyle, married Mary Carpenter, according to research on the internet she was the daughter of Zophar Carpenter.  Do you know if this is correct?  If it is I will order the cd set right away.  Please let me know.
Sincerely,  Lavinia Bell.

8318. Leah Carpenter

MARRIAGE:  20 Nov 1793:    Leah Carpenter married Thomas Tinsley.  Zenith
Carpenter is the bondsman.  Later Rufus Carpenter gives proof of age for
Levisa Tinsley in her marriage to a Hugh Ross.  Levisa is most likely
the daughter of Leah and Thomas.  Leah and Thomas are completely lost
from the scene after their marriage.  There was an early Thomas Tinsley
who was a minister and likewise was heard of no more.  Could have been
the same as preachers moved about (NO PROOF).

8319. Rachel Carpenter

MARRIAGE: 13 Dec 1799:   Rachel Carpenter married Stephen McCollum.
There is less convincing evidence for Rachel as a daughter, but the
marriage took place in the newly formed Garrard Co. and there were no
other Carpenters except Zophar and his family.  Certainly, none of these
ladies would have been on the frontier without family.  Therefore, it
looks like Zophar had this one for a daughter also.   There is a
McCollum connection to the Carpenters through the Reed/Reid family.  In
1808, John Reed either made his will and / or it was proved on the same
date or in the same year.  The court papers do not say when proved.  In
his will are sons, John and Andrew; a daughter Rachel, who in the same
year married Rufus Carpenter, son of Zophar.  The will also put to
Rufus' charge, the care and education of a David McCollum.  This same
David later married a Polly Gentry in neighboring Lincoln Co.  He later
moved to Missouri at about the same time Zophar's youngest son Robert
went west.  David took as his second wife, Nancy Carpenter, daughter of
Robert.  An 1889 short biography of David McCollum reports that, "His
father, his grandfather, and his great-grandfather were all named Davy;"
that he was born in Garrard Co., Ky., Jan 22, 1802.  His mother was
Polly Reed.  This Polly had to be a sister to Rachel who married Rufus
Carpenter and probably died in child birth or shortly after David was
born.  Knowing that Rachel, his daughter was to be married or was
already married to Rufus, was incentive and agreeable to all that David
would be in good hands.   At least the family ties continued.  As to how
close Stephen, husband of Rachel Carpenter McCollum was to the other
McCollums is uncertain.  Stephens bond was signed by a Daniel McCollum.
Perhaps he was a brother to David, the father of young David who was put
in the care of Rufus.  As with the Tinsleys, there is no further
knowledge of Rachel and Stephen.

3504. Elizabeth Carpenter

Charles Carpenter has this Elizabeth of Zophar Jr. but birth date would
indicate Zophar, Sr.

MARRIAGE:
Name: David Glassburn
Birth Date: null
Birthplace: null
Age: null
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Carpenter
Spouse's Birth Date: null
Spouse's Birthplace: null
Spouse's Age: null
Event Date: 18 Mar 1778
Event Place: Botetourt, Virginia
Father's Name: null
Mother's Name: null
Spouse's Father's Name: Zopher Carpenter
Spouse's Mother's Name: Mary Carpenter
Race: null
Marital Status: null
Previous Wife's Name: null
Spouse's Race: null
Spouse's Marital Status: null
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: null
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M86871-7
System Origin: Virginia-EASy
GS Film number: 30734
Reference ID: Pg 7
Citing this Record:
"Virginia, Marriages, 1785-1940," index, (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XRC3-2QS : accessed 03 May 2014), Zopher Carpenter in entry for David Glassburn and Elizabeth Carpenter, 18 Mar 1778; citing Botetourt, Virginia, reference Pg 7; FHL microfilm 30734.