Group 3 - Descendants of William Carpenter-98-
Father of William Carpenter-584 (b. abt 1605)
Notes
8202.
James Gilbert Carpenter
Number 684 in the Carpenter Family in America, 1901 book.
No family listed. In North Castle in 1845.
The following notes suppled by: Vicki Carpenter Held - 9 Nov 2006 < vheld@utma.com >
More About JAMES G. CARPENTER:
Birth: “James G. (Gilbert) Carpenter was born the 10th day of the 11th month , 1827. North Castle, Westchester Co, NY”
Marriage: “James G. Carpenter Son of Enoch and Sophia Carpenter and Elizabeth Carpenter daughter of Job and Phoebe Carpenter were married the 13th day of the 11th month , 1854.”
The earliest Richland County Wisconsin records show that he purchased land on Feb. 20, 1856. Other land was purchased later. Real Estate records show that James G. sold land to David L Carpenter.. David in turn later sold the land back to Elizabeth Carpenter.
Elizabeth Carpenter
Number 688 in the Carpenter Family in America, 1901 book.
No family listed.
1 son H. L. Carpenter
8203.
James Carpenter
Number 685 in the book, The Carpenter Family in America by Daniel
H. Carpenter, 1901.
Family on page 240. Residence: Purchase, NY.
16245.
Hannah Carpenter
Number 1286 in the book, The Carpenter Family in America by Daniel
H. Carpenter, 1901.
No family listed.
16246.
Caroline Carpenter
Number 1287 in the book, The Carpenter Family in America by Daniel
H. Carpenter, 1901.
No family listed.
16247.
James E. or F. Carpenter
Number 1288 in the book, The Carpenter Family in America by Daniel
H. Carpenter, 1901.
No family listed.
NAME: Middle inital reported as F. and E.
16248.
Soloman Carpenter
Number 1289 in the book, The Carpenter Family in America by Daniel
H. Carpenter, 1901.
No family listed.
CENSUS: 1880 US Census - closest match found
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
S. L. CARPENTER Self M Male W 36 NY Laborer NY NY
Mary A. CARPENTER Wife M Female W 28 NY Keeping House NY NY
Arthur B. CARPENTER Son S Male W 5 NY NY NY
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Source Information:
Census Place Ulysses, Tompkins, New York
Family History Library Film 1254938
NA Film Number T9-0938
Page Number 355D
16249.
Jane Carpenter
Number 1290 in the book, The Carpenter Family in America by Daniel
H. Carpenter, 1901.
No family listed.
8204.
Alonzo D. Carpenter
Number 686 in the Carpenter Family in America, 1901 book.
No family listed. He was a resident of Sing Sing.
Born in either Putney, VT or Keene, NH. Moved to Michigan.
CENSUS: 1850 US Census - with parents
MARRIAGE: 1852 - image
Name: Alonzo Carpenter
Gender: Male
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 2 May 1852
Marriage Place: Somers, New York, USA
Church: First Presbyterian Church
Spouse: Phebe Jane Smith
Source Citation
Presbyterian Historical Society; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; U.S., Presbyterian Church Records, 1701-1907; Book Title: Church Register 1806-1871; Accession Number: V MI46 So54fc
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Presbyterian Church Records, 1701-1970 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
Original data: Church Registers. Presbyterian Historical Society, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
CENSUS: 1860 US Census - This is not the A. D. Carpenter of Rock County, WI!
Name: Alonzo Carpenter
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1860
Event Place: The Town Of Ithica, Richland, Wisconsin, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Race: White
Race (Original): [Blank]
Birth Year (Estimated): 1830
Birthplace: New York
Page: 65
Household ID: 499
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: M653
GS Film Number: 805428
Digital Folder Number: 004300454
Image Number: 00131
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Alonzo Carpenter M 30 New York
Pheobe Carpenter F 26 New York
Charles Carpenter M 7 New York
Lotte Carpenter F 5 New York
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1860," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MW9X-6FY : accessed 15 December 2014), Alonzo Carpenter, The Town Of Ithica, Richland, Wisconsin, United States; from "1860 U.S. Federal Census - Population," Fold3.com; p. 65, household ID 499; NARA microfilm publication M653, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C.; FHL microfilm 805,428.
DRAFT: image - Civil War
Name: Alonzo Carpenter
Birth Year: abt 1830
Place of Birth: New York
Age on 1 July 1863: 33
Race: White
Marital Status: Married
Residence: Ithaca, Richland, Wisconsin
Congressional District: 3rd
Class: 1
Source Citation
National Archives and Records Administration (NARA); Washington, D.C.; Consolidated Lists of Civil War Draft Registration Records (Provost Marshal General's Bureau; Consolidated Enrollment Lists, 1863-1865); Record Group: 110, Records of the Provost Marshal General's Bureau (Civil War); Collection Name: Consolidated Enrollment Lists, 1863-1865 (Civil War Union Draft Records); NAI: 4213514; Archive Volume Number: 1 of 3
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Civil War Draft Registrations Records, 1863-1865 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
Original data:
Consolidated Lists of Civil War Draft Registrations, 1863-1865. NM-65, entry 172, 620 volumes. NAI: 4213514. Records of the Provost Marshal General’s Bureau (Civil War), Record Group 110. National Archives at Washington D.C.
CENSUS: 1870 US Census
Name: Alonzo Carpenter
Age in 1870: 40
Birth Year: abt 1830
Birthplace: New York
Home in 1870: Milford, Crawford, Iowa
Race: White
Gender: Male
Occupation: Farm Laborer
Male Citizen over 21: Y
Personal Estate Value: 500
Household Members:
Name Age
Alonzo Carpenter 40
Source Citation
Year: 1870; Census Place: Milford, Crawford, Iowa; Roll: M593_385; Page: 483B; Family History Library Film: 545884
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1870 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2009. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data:
1870 U.S. census, population schedules. NARA microfilm publication M593, 1,761 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.
MARRIAGE: 1878
Name: Alonzo Carpenter
Birth Date:
Birthplace: Sing Sing, West Chester Co., N.Y.
Age:
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Waterman
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 28 Jan 1878
Event Place: Richland, Wisconsin
Father's Name: Job. Carpenter
Mother's Name: Phebe
Spouse's Father's Name: Rufus Waterman
Spouse's Mother's Name: Hannah M.
Race: White
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race: White
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00329-5
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1275524
Reference ID: p283 #25
Citing this Record:
"Wisconsin, Marriages, 1836-1930," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XRKL-WV1 : accessed 15 December 2014), Alonzo Carpenter and Elizabeth Waterman, 28 Jan 1878; citing reference p283 #25; FHL microfilm 1,275,524.
CENSUS: 1880 US Census - He is not A. D. in Rock County, WI.
BURIAL:
Name: Alonzo Carpenter
Birth Date: 1830
Death Date: 1885
Age: 55
Burial Location: Denison, Crawford
Cemetery: Oakland
General Burial Info: (Civil war vet. G. A. R. flag holder on grave)
Comments: hus of: Elizabeth
Source: Crawford County Burial Records
Page Number: 21
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Iowa, Cemetery Records, 1662-1999 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000.
Original data: Works Project Administration. Graves Registration Project. Washington, D.C.: n.p., n.d..
GRAVE:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=57450932
Alonzo Carpenter
Birth: 1830
Death: 1885
Family links:
Spouses:
Elizabeth L. Waterman Carpenter (1843 - 1913)
Phoebe Jane South Carpenter (1833 - 1865)*
*Calculated relationship
Note: WPA Records Civil war vet
Burial:
Oakland Cemetery
Denison
Crawford County
Iowa, USA
Created by: ADD
Record added: Aug 21, 2010
Find A Grave Memorial# 57450932
MISC:
At the outset I should say that my interest in Alonzo Carpenter stems from his marriage to Elizabeth Waterman, my great grand aunt. Bear with me as I write this down on the form of a narrative. I'll be sending along attachments to go along with it. Alonzo Carpenter married Phoebe Jane South on May 2, 1852 in New York State. According to James South they had about five children between then and 1860.
The Carpenter family first shows up in Wisconsin on records in 1860 when they are listed on the Federal Census in Ithica township, Richland Co. At the time two children are listed with them, Charles and Lottie (Charlotte). Coincidentally it is at this time that the Waterman family moves to the same township from Oregon township, Dane Co., WI. I haven't looked up the Carpenters at the Richland County Courthouse yet, but next time I'm down there I will.
Alonzo Carpenter next shows up in 1870. He has moved to Crawford Co., Iowa where he is listed in Milford township, working as a farm hand. His wife and children are not listed with him. John South has said that Phoebe died in 1865 in Iowa, but I have found nothing to prove his claim. I think I have found a listing for Phoebe Carpenter in Wisconsin in the census records of 1870 and later. I'm still looking.
In 1878 Alonzo Carpenter is back in Ithica township where on January 28 he weds Elizabeth Waterman, daughter of Rufus and Hannah Webber Waterman. He is, at this time, a lumber dealer in Denison, CrawfordCo., Iowa. After the marriage they move back to Denison, IA and takeup residence there. In October of 1879 their son Harry A. is born. In1880 The listing in the Federal Census shows Alonzo, a clerk,Elizabeth, keeping house, and two sons, Harry aged 1 year, born inIowa, and Benjamin aged 18 years, born in Wisconsin.
In 1885 Alonzo dies and is buried in Oakland cemetery just outside Denison. Elizabeth will go on to marry Harrison Crippen on December 29, 1887. After his death in 1894, she and her son Harry will livetogether until her death on March 3, 1913. Shortly after that Harry will marry a person named Myrtle and they will have two children. The daughter is named Dorothy and the son is named Harold. One intriguing fact is that in 1988 one Harold Carpenter died in Story City, IA. His birth date was December 1917. Harry Carpenter's son Harold was two and one half years old when the 1920 census was taken June.
Charles Carpenter shows up in 1920 in the Federal Census in Baraboo, WI along with his wife, the former Frances Stone. This is another reason that I feel that Phoebe Carpenter did not leave Wisconsin. I'll have to take another trip to Baraboo on of these days to research this thread. There are other questions that arise. What happened to the other children if Phoebe and Alonzo were supposed to have five children before they left New York? If Benjamin was born in 1862 ashis age in 1880 suggests, he must have been another son of Alonzo and Phoebe. What happened to him? According to my Haskin relatives, Harry left Denison, IA went west and was never heard of again. What happened to him and his wife? That's what so exciting and frustrating about this research. An answer to one question will bring about two or three new questions. Hope this has been some help for your research.
Cordially,
Mike Hodges
info from :"Michael Hodges" 8/23/02
BOOK:
A standard history of Sauk County, Wisconsin: Volume II
Source:
Cole, Harry Ellsworth, 1861-1929, Editor
A standard history of Sauk County, Wisconsin: Volume II
Chicago: Lewis Publishing Co., 1918
2 v. 27 cm.
URL to cite for this work: http://digital.library.wisc.edu/1711.dl/WI.ColeStandardv2
Page 825 (See son Charles A Carpenter's notes for full citation)
.. [In] 1856, Alonzo B. and Phoebe Jane (Smith) Carpenter, came west and located in Richland County, Wisconsin. Their place of settlement was in Ithaca Township on Bear Creek. Here Alonzo B. Carpenter took up a tract of Government land and followed farming actively for a number of years. He also served one term as county superintendent.
He had eighty acres of land and was in a fair way to prosperity when his good wife died on that farm February 21, 1865, at the age of thirty-one years, two months, twenty-five days. She was survived by five young children: Charles A., Charlotte, now deceased; Eugenia, Benjamin F. and Nellie. Charles was then twelve years of age. The father took his little family back to New York State for one year and then returned to Richland County, Wisconsin, and married for his second wife Miss Elizabeth Waterman. There was one child by the second wife, who was born in Iowa. Alonzo Carpenter followed the lumber business in Iowa for a number of years and died there May 16, 1885, at the age of fifty-four years, eight months, seventeen days. He was a well educated man, having gained his education in New York State. He became a pharmacist and was also a skilled accountant. Politically he was a republican and a member of the Masonic Order. The family on both sides were for generations connected with the Friends or Quaker Church. •
NOTE: This book citation was supplied by Jim Carpenter of San DIego, CA on 19 May 2018. jimcarpenter4@gmail.com
Phebe Jane South
NAME:
Wrongly given the maiden name of Smith in 2 records. One was a typo and the other a copy of the typo!
MARRIAGE: 1852 - image
Name: Phebe Jane Smith
Gender: Female
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 2 May 1852
Marriage Place: Somers, New York, USA
Church: First Presbyterian Church
Spouse: Alonzo Carpenter
Source Citation
Presbyterian Historical Society; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; U.S., Presbyterian Church Records, 1701-1907; Book Title: Church Register 1806-1871; Accession Number: V MI46 So54fc
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Presbyterian Church Records, 1701-1970 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
Original data: Church Registers. Presbyterian Historical Society, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
NOTE:
On image are the name of the witnesses. they are Oscar Smith and Eliza Y(?) Smith. Parents or relatives?
BURIAL: The following seems apply to this person's spouse??? SAME PERSON? Likely not. See Grave below.
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nh/grafton/benton/cemetery/westcem.txt
West Cemetery: Benton, Grafton County, New Hampshire
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This cemetery listing was published in 1904 in a book titled
"Some Things About Coventry-Benton New Hampshire"
by William F. Whitcher
Published by News Print, Woodsville, N. H. 1905.
West Cemetery
The following was written in 1904.
This cemetery, situated on the main road to Bath and Haverhill, near the school house in
district No. 5, has been much improved in recent years, and the lots are in the main well
kept. There is a fund of $500 established by the late Ira Whitcher the income of which is
to be applied annually for the care of this comparatively small burying ground.
The following are the inscriptions on the monuments and tombstones.
Name, first inscription Death date Age
Carpenter Phebe J. wife of Alonzo D. Carpenter Oct 10 1857
GRAVE: images
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=106307346
Phebe Jane South Carpenter
Birth: Nov. 26, 1833
New York, USA
Death: Feb. 21, 1865
Baraboo
Sauk County
Wisconsin, USA
Family links:
Spouse:
Alonzo Carpenter (1830 - 1885)
Children:
Charles albert Carpenter (1853-1926)
Burial:
Walnut Hill Cemetery
Baraboo
Sauk County
Wisconsin, USA
Plot: Section J
Created by: Marcia
Record added: Mar 06, 2013
Find A Grave Memorial# 106307346
16253.
Benjamin F. Carpenter
Not with the family in 1860. Died he die young?
Elizabeth L. Waterman
NOTE: In my records she is not listed as a spouse of Alonzo Carpenter.
PARENTS:
Father's Name: Rufus Bradley Waterman
Mother's Name: Hannah Mariah Webber
MARRIAGE: 1887
Name: Elizabeth Waterman
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 1843
Birth Place: Kaymund, WI
Marriage Date: 29 Dec 1887
Marriage Place: Denison, Crawford, IA
Marriage Age: 44
Bride Previous Husband's Name: Carpenter
Father: Rufus Waterman
Mother: Hannah M. Webber
Spouse: Harrison Crippin
FHL Film Number: 1035130
Reference ID: 2:3BP08NG
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Iowa, Select Marriages Index, 1758-1996 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
Original data: Iowa, Marriages. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013.
DEATH:
Name: Elizabeth L. Crippen [Elizabeth L. Waterman]
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Widowed
Age: 69
Birth Date: 27 Oct 1843
Birth Place: Wisconsin
Death Date: 3 Mar 1913
Death Place: Crawford County, Iowa
Burial Date: 6 Mar 1913
Burial Place: Denison, Crawford, Iowa
Father: Rufus Waterman
Mother: Hannah L. Wilber
FHL Film Number: 1514206
Reference ID: 129
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Iowa, Deaths and Burials, 1850-1990 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc, 2014.
Original data: Iowa, Deaths and Burials, 1850-1990. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013.
GRAVE:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=57450963
Elizabeth L. Waterman Carpenter
Birth: 1843
Death: 1913
Mother of Elizabeth was Hannah Webber Waterman (109795918)
Family links:
Parents:
Rufus Bradley Waterman (1810 - 1893)
Hannah Mariah Webber Waterman (1808 - 1886)
Spouses:
Harrison Crippen (1813 - 1897)
Alonzo Carpenter (1830 - 1885)*
Siblings:
Orrel Marie Waterman Haskin (1835 - 1910)*
Elizabeth L. Waterman Carpenter (1843 - 1913)
Adelbert Waterman (1847 - 1924)*
Andrew B. Waterman (1850 - 1919)*
*Calculated relationship
Note: WPA Records
Burial:
Oakland Cemetery
Denison
Crawford County
Iowa, USA ]
Created by: ADD
Record added: Aug 21, 2010
Find A Grave Memorial# 57450963
Charity
NOTE:
This is not Charity C. Anderson. That Charity married an Alonzo Curtis Carpenter.
8206.
Elizabeth Carpenter
Number 688 in the Carpenter Family in America, 1901 book.
No family listed.
1 son H. L. Carpenter
James Gilbert Carpenter
Number 684 in the Carpenter Family in America, 1901 book.
No family listed. In North Castle in 1845.
The following notes suppled by: Vicki Carpenter Held - 9 Nov 2006 < vheld@utma.com >
More About JAMES G. CARPENTER:
Birth: “James G. (Gilbert) Carpenter was born the 10th day of the 11th month , 1827. North Castle, Westchester Co, NY”
Marriage: “James G. Carpenter Son of Enoch and Sophia Carpenter and Elizabeth Carpenter daughter of Job and Phoebe Carpenter were married the 13th day of the 11th month , 1854.”
The earliest Richland County Wisconsin records show that he purchased land on Feb. 20, 1856. Other land was purchased later. Real Estate records show that James G. sold land to David L Carpenter.. David in turn later sold the land back to Elizabeth Carpenter.
8212.
Carman Rushmore Carpenter
Number 695 in the book, The Carpenter Family in America by Daniel H. Carpenter, 1901.
No family listed.
FSFT ID # KZNV-JY1
CENSUS: 1840 US Census
Name: Rushmore Carpenter
Home in 1840 (City, County, State): Kings, New York
Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 20 thru 29: 1 <----- b. abt 1811 to 1820
Free White Persons - Females - Under 5: 2
Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: 2
Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29: 1
Persons Employed in Manufacture and Trade: 1
Free White Persons - Under 20: 5
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 2
Total Free White Persons: 7
Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves: 7
Source Citation
Year: 1840; Census Place: Kings, New York; Roll: 289; Page: 546; Family History Library Film: 0017189
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1840 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: Sixth Census of the United States, 1840. (NARA microfilm publication M704, 580 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
CENSUS: 1850 US Census
Name: Carman R Carpenter
Gender: Male
Age: 38
Birth Year: abt 1812
Birthplace: New York
Home in 1850: Brookhaven, Suffolk, New York, USA
Occupation: Tailor
Industry: Apparel and accessories stores, except shoe
Line Number: 20
Dwelling Number: 314
Family Number: 349
Household Members:
Name Age
Carman R Carpenter 38
Belinda Carpenter 36
Ann M Carpenter 17
Margaret Carpenter 15
Carman Carpenter 8
Belinda B Carpenter 4
Saml L Carpenter 1
Source Citation
Year: 1850; Census Place: Brookhaven, Suffolk, New York; Roll: 601; Page: 209A
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1850 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2009. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: Seventh Census of the United States, 1850; (National Archives Microfilm Publication M432, 1009 rolls); Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29; National Archives, Washington, D.C.
PRI: 1850
Name: Rushmore Carpenter
Residence Date: 1850
Residence Place: Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States
Comments: Tailor
Source Citation
Hearnes' Brooklyn City Directory for 1850-1851; Publication Place: Brooklyn, New York; Publisher: Henry R. & William J. Hearne; Publication Year: 1850; Page Number: 73
Source Information
Ancestry.com. New York, Genealogical Records, 1675-1920 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004.
Original data:
For individual sources please see the source information listed with each record. Many of the source documents are available in the Genealogical Research Library collection or at the Family History Library.
CENSUS: 1855 New York State Census
Name: Carman R Carpenter
Birth Year: abt 1813
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Relation to Head: Head
Residence: Brooklyn City, Ward 5, Kings, New York, USA
District: E.D. 2
Household number: 944
Line Number: 37
Household Members:
Name Age
Carman R Carpenter 42
Belinda Carpenter 40
Margaret Carpenter 19
Carmon R Carpenter 12
Belinda B Carpenter 8
Luman S Carpenter 6
Claria S Carpenter 3
John H Carpenter 0
Source Information
Ancestry.com. New York, State Census, 1855 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2013.
Original data: Census of the state of New York, for 1855. Microfilm. Various County Clerk Offices, New York.
CENSUS: 1860 US Census
PRI: 1863 - image
Name: Rushmore Carpenter
Residence Year: 1863
Street address: 210 Fulton av
Residence Place: Brooklyn, New York, USA
Occupation: Tailor
Publication Title: Brooklyn, New York, City Directory, 1863
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data: Original sources vary according to directory. The title of the specific directory being viewed is listed at the top of the image viewer page. Check the directory title page image for full title and publication information.
PRI: 1865 & 1865 - images
Name: Carman R Carpenter
Residence Year: 1865 (1866)
Street address: 84 Washington
Residence Place: Brooklyn, New York, USA
Occupation: Tailor
Publication Title: Brooklyn, New York, City Directory, 1866
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data: Original sources vary according to directory. The title of the specific directory being viewed is listed at the top of the image viewer page. Check the directory title page image for full title and publication information.
CENSUS: 1865 New York State Census
Name: Carman Carpenter
Gender: Male
Relation to Head: Head
Birth Year: abt 1812
Age: 53
Residence: Brooklyn, Kings, New York, USA
Ward: 2
Line Number: 21
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Carman Carpenter 53 <--- born Kings
Matilda Carpenter 50 Wife <--- Malilda on image - should be Belinda - born NY
Source Information
Ancestry.com. New York, State Census, 1865 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
Original data: Census of the state of New York, for 1865. Microfilm. New York State Archives, Albany, New York.
NOTE: Per census image the following children are listed with the parents above.
Ann 28 F - born Kings
Margaret 26 F - born Kings
Malilda 18 F - born Kings
Clara 13 F - born Kings
John 10 M - borns Kings
DEATH:
Name: Carman R Carpenter
Age: 54
Birth Year: abt 1812
Death Date: 21 Apr 1866
Death Place: Kings, New York, USA
Certificate Number: 2149
Source Information
Ancestry.com. New York, New York, Extracted Death Index, 1862-1948 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
Original data: Index to New York City Deaths 1862-1948. Indices prepared by the Italian Genealogical Group and the German Genealogy Group, and used with permission of the New York City Department of Records/Municipal Archives.
Belinda Allen
FSFT ID # LVCL-JWM
BIRTH: image
Name: Belinda Allen
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 6 Sep 1814
Baptism Date: 9 Jun 1820
Baptism Place: New York City, New York, USA
Church: South Dutch Church
Father: Luman H Allen
Mother: Maria Beck
Source Citation
The Archives of the Reformed Church in America; New Brunswick, New Jersey; South Dutch Church, Members, Records, 1812-1857
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Dutch Reformed Church Records in Selected States, 1639-1989 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
Original data:
Dutch Reformed Church Records from New York and New Jersey. Holland Society of New York, New York, New York.
Dutch Reformed Church Records from New Jersey. The Archives of the Reformed Church in America, New Brunswick, New Jersey.
CENSUS: 1870 US Census - now a widow
Name: Belinda Carpenter
Age in 1870: 56
Birth Year: abt 1814
Birthplace: New York
Dwelling Number: 43
Home in 1870: Brooklyn Ward 5, Kings, New York
Race: White
Gender: Female
Post Office: Brooklyn
Occupation: Keeping House
Household Members:
Name Age
William Watson 29 <---- no relationship given
Jane Watson 29
Belinda Carpenter 56 <------------
Belinda Fergerson 22 <----- daughter
John Carpenter 15 <---- son
John Ferguson 2 <----- grandson
Source Citation
Year: 1870; Census Place: Brooklyn Ward 5, Kings, New York; Roll: M593_947; Page: 482B; Family History Library Film: 552446
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1870 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2009. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data:
1870 U.S. census, population schedules. NARA microfilm publication M593, 1,761 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.
CENSUS: 1875 New York State Census - damaged image
Name: Belinda Carpenter
Age: 59
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1816
Residence Date: 1 Jun 1875
Residence Place: Brooklyn Ward 04, Kings, New York, USA
Election District: Ward 04, E.D. 01
Household number: 31
Relation to Head: Head
Line Number: 39
Household Members:
Name Age
Belinda Carpenter 59 <---- Born NY <-------------------- Family 31
Magaret J Watson 35 <--- daughter --- born in Kings
Belinda Carpenter 26 <--- daughter --- born in Kings
John F Furgeson 6 <--- Grandchild --- born in Kings
Clara A Smith 5 <--- Grandchild --- born in Kings
William H Watson 2 <--- Grandchild --- born in Kings
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Because of the damaged images THIS IS NOT a continuation of the family above - IT IS A NEW FAMILY - Family 8 and page is out of sequence! Sadly in the remaining images, I can not find the next page for the above. JRC
John L Rogers 18 <---- Son b. NJ
Lizzie C Rogers 16 <--------- Daughter - b. NJ
William G White 35 <------- Daughter's husband - b. England
Ernest G Brooks 29 <-------- Daughter's husband - b. England
Edward H White 7 <--- Grandchild - b. NJ
Ernest A Brooks 3 <--- Grandchild - b. Kings
Chas G Brooks 1 <--- Grandchild - b. Kings
Ann Quillen 37 <----- servant - b. Ireland
Source Information
Ancestry.com. New York, State Census, 1875 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2013.
Original data: Census of the state of New York, for 1875. Microfilm. New York State Archives, Albany, New York.
PRI: 1879 - image - a widow still using her husband's name on directory
Name: Carmen R Carpenter
Gender: Male
Spouse: Belinda Carpenter
Publication Title: Brooklyn, New York, City Directory, 1879
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data: Original sources vary according to directory. The title of the specific directory being viewed is listed at the top of the image viewer page. Check the directory title page image for full title and publication information.
CENSUS: 1880 US Census
Name: Belinda Carpenter
Age: 65
Birth Date: Abt 1815
Birthplace: New York
Home in 1880: Brooklyn, Kings, New York, USA
Street: Shilton Street
House Number: 124
Dwelling Number: 16
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital status: Widowed <---------------
Father's Birthplace: New York
Mother's Birthplace: New York
Occupation: Keeping House
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Belinda Carpenter 65
Belinda Furguson 30 <-- daughter
John Carpenter 24 <--- son
John Furguson 11 <---- grandchild
Henry Furguson 4 <---- grandchild
Source Citation
Year: 1880; Census Place: Brooklyn, Kings, New York; Roll: 840; Page: 87C; Enumeration District: 005
Source Information
Ancestry.com and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. 1880 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010. 1880 U.S. Census Index provided by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints © Copyright 1999 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. All use is subject to the limited use license and other terms and conditions applicable to this site.
Original data: Tenth Census of the United States, 1880. (NARA microfilm publication T9, 1,454 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
PRI: 1880, 1883, 1884, 1885, 1886 - images - still using her husband's name!
Name: Carman R Carpenter
Gender: Male
Spouse: Belinda Carpenter
Publication Title: Brooklyn, New York, City Directory, 1880 (1883) (1884) (1885) (1886)
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data: Original sources vary according to directory. The title of the specific directory being viewed is listed at the top of the image viewer page. Check the directory title page image for full title and publication information.
CENSUS: 1890 US Census - burned
DEATH:
Name: Belinda B Carpenter
Gender: Female
Race: White
Marital status: Widow
Age: 72
Birth Date: abt 1823
Birth Place: New York
Residence Street Address: 60 Hall St
Residence City Ward: 25
Death Date: 7 Oct 1895
Death Street Address: 60 Hall Street
Death Place: New York City, Brooklyn, New York, USA
Death City Ward: 25 Ward
Cause of Death: Tetanus Comp Brights And Vol Heart Disease
Burial Date: 10 Oct 1895
Burial Place: Cypress Hills
Father's Birth Place: USA
Mother's Birth Place: USA
Certificate Number: 17884
Source Citation
New York City Department of Records & Information Services; New York City, New York; New York City Death Certificates; Borough: Brooklyn; Year: 1895
Source Information
Ancestry.com. New York, New York, Index to Death Certificates, 1862-1948 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT: 2020.
Original data: New York City Department of Records & Information Services. New York City Death Certificates.
SEE ALSO:
Name: Belinda B Carpenter
Age: 72
Birth Year: abt 1823
Death Date: 7 Oct 1895
Death Place: Kings, New York, USA
Certificate Number: 17884
Wills and Probates: Search for Belinda B Carpenter in New York Wills & Probates collection
Source Information
Ancestry.com. New York, New York, Extracted Death Index, 1862-1948 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
Original data: Index to New York City Deaths 1862-1948. Indices prepared by the Italian Genealogical Group and the German Genealogy Group, and used with permission of the New York City Department of Records/Municipal Archives.
16257.
Ann M. Carpenter
FSFT ID # LVCL-JF8
CENSUS: 1850 US Census - Mortality Schedule
Name: Ann M Carpenter
Age: 16
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1834
Place of birth: New York
Month of Death: Oct <-------- Died Oct 1849 - before the Census date of 1 June 1850.
Cause of Death: Consumption
Place of Death: Providence, Saratoga, New York
Census Year: 1850
Source Citation
U.S. Census Mortality Schedules, New York, 1850-1880; New York State Education Department, Office of Cultural Education; Albany, New York; Year: 1850; Roll: M2; Line Number: 20
Source Information
Ancestry.com. New York, U.S. Census Mortality Schedules, 1850-1880 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc, 2010.
16261.
Samuel Luman Carpenter
FSFT ID # LVCL-J5V
CENSUS: 1850 US Census - with parents - age 1 - listed as Samuel L.
CENSUS: 1855 New York State Census - with parents - age 12 - Listed as Luman S.
CENSUS: 1860 US Census
CENSUS: 1865 New York State Census
QUESTION:
Is he the Luman Carpenter cited in NY and the tax years of 1864 to 1866? If yesw then he is of Oswego County, NY. See:
https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=1264&h=2992842&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=7181
QUESTION:
Did he go to Oswego County, NY, marry a Hariett and had a will dated 6 Jul 1875? If yes - see:
https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=8800&h=2116677&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=7181
SEE ALSO:
https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=8800&h=2129742&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=7181
16263.
John Henry Carpenter
FSFT ID # LVCL-V3Z
CENSUS: 1855 New York State Census - with parents - age 0 - Listed as John H.
CENSUS: 1860 US Census
CENSUS: 1865 New York State Census - with parents - age 10 - Listed as John
CENSUS: 1870 US Census - with mother - age 15 - a porter
CENSUS: 1875 New York State Census - NOT with mother
CENSUS: 1880 US Census - with mother - age 24 - listed as John
CENSUS: 1890 US Census - burned
CENSUS: 1900 US Census
CENSUS: 1910 US Census
DEATH:
Name: John Henry Carpenter
Gender: Male
Race: White
Marital status: Single
Age: 62
Birth Date: 28 Mar 1855
Birth Place: Brooklyn, New York
Years in US: Life
Death Date: 29 Jan 1918
Death Street Address: 407 Berry St
Death Place: New York City, Brooklyn, New York, USA
Cause of Death: Cardiac Asthenia, Endocarditis, Senility, Pulmonary Edema Nephritis
Burial Date: 2 Feb 1918
Burial Place: Cypress Hill Cem
Occupation: Printer
Father's Birth Place: Hempstead LI NY
Mother's Birth Place: Hempstead LI NY
Father: Carmen Rushman Carpenter
Mother: Blenanka Carpenter
Executor: Mary Furyerson
Executor Relationship: Sister
Certificate Number: 2758
Source Citation
New York City Department of Records & Information Services; New York City, New York; New York City Death Certificates; Borough: Brooklyn; Year: 1918
Source Information
Ancestry.com. New York, New York, Index to Death Certificates, 1862-1948 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT: 2020.
Original data: New York City Department of Records & Information Services. New York City Death Certificates.
8213.
Richard F. Carpenter
Number 694 in the book, The Carpenter Family in America by Daniel H. Carpenter, 1901.
No family listed. He was a director in the Kings County Savings Bank of Brooklyn with his residence at 403 Berry Street and also at Southold, Long Island. He married and had at least one daughter.
8222.
William Frost Carpenter
Number 704 in the book, the Carpenter Family in America by Daniel H. Carpenter, 1901.
No family listed.
He was a tobacco dealer at 250 Henry Street, New York in 1862.
This address is in Brooklyn Heights - Brooklyn, Kings, New York.
CHR: image - not really Adult entry upon joining church.
Name: Wm. F. Carpenter
Event Type: ADULT Baptism
Birth Date:
Baptism Date: April 26, 1846
Baptism Place: New York City, New York, USA
Church: Seventh Presbyterian Church ***
Father:
Mother:
Source Citation
Presbyterian Historical Society; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Book Title: 1818 - 1888
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Presbyterian Church Records, 1701-1970 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
Original data: Church Registers. Presbyterian Historical Society, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
NOTE: (109 of 134)
Mary Elizabeth Carpenter listed also.
***
Seventh Presbyterian Church
Broome Street, southeast corner Ridge Street
New York, N.Y. 10002
Organ Specifications:
Broome Street, corner Ridge Street (1842-1934)
► II/9 Estey Organ Company, Op. 2233 (1924)
• II/30 George Jardine & Son (1857)
Sheriff Street, near Broome (1818-1842)
• unknown if any
The Seventh Presbyterian Church of Jesus Christ was organized on March 27, 1818, by Rev. Elihu V. Baldwin, D. D., in the home of William Badoe, and the first house of worship was located on Sheriff Street, near Broome. In 1842, a new church was built, as designed by Napoleon Le Brun. For more than twenty years the church was known as "Dr. Hatfield's Church," due to the pastorate of the Rev. Edwin F. Hatfield, D.D., who led the congregation from 1835 until he resigned in February 1856 to become pastor of the North Presbyterian Church. For many years, Seventh Presbyterian Church had the largest Sunday school in the United States. On February 4, 1934, the Seventh Presbyterian Church had its last service, after which it merged into the Church of the Sea and Land on Market and Henry Streets. ...
See more at: http://www.nycago.org/Organs/NYC/html/SeventhPres.html
Mary Elizabeth "Elizabeth" Baker
CHR: image - not really Adult entry upon joining church.
Name: Mary Elizabeth F. Carpenter
Event Type: ADULT Baptism
Birth Date:
Baptism Date: April 26, 1846
Baptism Place: New York City, New York, USA
Church: Seventh Presbyterian Church ***
Father:
Mother:
Source Citation
Presbyterian Historical Society; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Book Title: 1818 - 1888
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Presbyterian Church Records, 1701-1970 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
Original data: Church Registers. Presbyterian Historical Society, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
NOTE: (109 of 134)
Wm. F. Carpenter listed also.
16265.
William Henry Carpenter
Number 704 in the book, the Carpenter Family in America by Daniel H. Carpenter, 1901.
No family listed.
He was a tobacco dealer at 250 Henry Street, New York in 1862.
This address is in Brooklyn Heights - Brooklyn, Kings, New York.
CHR: image
Name: William Henry Carpenter
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: February 19, 1841
Baptism Date: July 5, 1846
Baptism Place: New York City, New York, USA
Church: Seventh Presbyterian Church
Father:
Mother:
Source Citation
Presbyterian Historical Society; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Book Title: 1818 - 1888
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Presbyterian Church Records, 1701-1970 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
Original data: Church Registers. Presbyterian Historical Society, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
NOTE: (110 of 134)
8226.
Samuel Carpenter
Samuel (17) Carpenter Jr. was born 26 March 1812, married Martha Allen
Hannah 9 October 1832 in Botetourt County, Virginia and died 5 July 1893 in
Covington, Alleghany County, Virginia.
CENSUS: 1830 US Census - with father
CENSUS: 1840 US Census - not found
CENSUS: 1850 US Census
Name: Samuel Carpenter
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1850
Event Place: Alleghany county, part of, Alleghany, Virginia, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 38
Race: White
Race (Original):
Birth Year (Estimated): 1812
Birthplace: Virginia
Household ID: 422
House Number: 421
Line Number: 11
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: M432
Affiliate Film Number: 933
GS Film Number: 29708
Digital Folder Number: 004191110
Image Number: 00067
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Samuel Carpenter M 38 Virginia
Martha Carpenter F 37 Virginia
Joseph Carpenter M 16 Virginia
Harriet Carpenter F 13 Virginia
John Carpenter M 11 Virginia
Samuel Carpenter M 9 Virginia
Mary Carpenter F 6 Virginia
James Carpenter M 4 Virginia
Charles Carpenter M 1 Virginia
Charles Mceslevie M 24 Virginia
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M88L-Y63 : 9 November 2014), Samuel Carpenter, Alleghany county, part of, Alleghany, Virginia, United States; citing family 422, NARA microfilm publication M432 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
CENSUS: 1860 US Census
Name: Samuel Carpenter
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1860
Event Place: Alleghany, Virginia, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 48
Race: White
Race (Original): [Blank]
Occupation:
Birth Year (Estimated): 1812
Birthplace: Virginia
Page: 80
Household ID: 511
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: M653
Affiliate Film Number: 1332
GS Film Number: 805332
Digital Folder Number: 005171510
Image Number: 00084
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Samuel Carpenter M 48 Virginia
Harriet E Carpenter F 22 Virginia
John C Carpenter M 20 Virginia
Samuel S Carpenter M 19 Virginia
Mary C Carpenter F 16 Virginia
Toby Carpenter M 14 Virginia
Charles C Carpenter M 12 Virginia
George M Carpenter M 9 Virginia
William C Carpenter M 6 Virginia
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1860", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4BB-73R : 30 December 2015), Samuel Carpenter, 1860.
CENSUS: 1870 US Census
Name: Samuel Carpenter
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1870
Event Place: Virginia, United States <---- Covington, Alleghany, Virginia, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 58
Race: White
Race (Original): W
Birth Year (Estimated): 1811-1812
Birthplace: Virginia
Page Number: 8
Household ID: 57
Line Number: 25
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: M593
GS Film number: 000553131
Digital Folder Number: 004268484
Image Number: 00504
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Samuel Carpenter M 58 Virginia
Harriett Carpenter F 30 Virginia
Charles C C Carpenter M 20 Virginia
George M Carpenter M 18 Virginia
Sarah Young Young F 13 Virginia <---- Domestic - mulato
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1870," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MFL6-C9N : 17 October 2014), Samuel Carpenter, Virginia, United States; citing p. 8, family 57, NARA microfilm publication M593 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 553,131.
CENSUS: 1880 US Census
Name: Samul Carpenter
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1880
Event Place: Covington, Alleghany, Virginia, United States
District: ED 3
Gender: Male
Age: 68
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Race (Original): W
Occupation: Retired Farmer
Relationship to Head of Household: Other
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Other
Birth Year (Estimated): 1812
Birthplace: Virginia, United States
Father's Birthplace: Virginia, United States
Mother's Birthplace: Virginia, United States
Note:
Sheet Letter: B
Sheet Number: 402
Sheet Number and Letter: 402B
Household ID: 13955910
Person Number: 6
Volume: 1
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: T9
Affiliate Film Number: 1353
GS Film Number: 1255353
Digital Folder Number: 005162584
Image Number: 00056
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Erasemas T Williams Self M 47 Virginia, United States
Emma B Williams Wife F 37 Virginia, United States
Georganna J Williams Daughter F 19 Virginia, United States
Allice J Williams Daughter F 18 Virginia, United States
Ada Williams Daughter F 14 Virginia, United States
James N Barrly Other M 32 Virginia, United States
Samul Carpenter Other M 68 Virginia, United States <------------
Charles W Echord Other M 25 Virginia, United States
Caroline Jones Other F 20 Virginia, United States
Henry Houston Other M 23 Virginia, United States
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCPF-MSX : 24 December 2015), Samul Carpenter in household of Erasemas T Williams, Covington, Alleghany, Virginia, United States; citing enumeration district ED 3, sheet 402B, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 1353; FHL microfilm 1,255,353.
CENSUS: 1890 US Census - burned
Mary
NAME: Mary? Persinger?
16267.
Capt. Joseph Hannah Carpenter
Joseph Hannah (18) Carpenter was born 24 July 1834, graduated as a civil
engineer from Virginia Military Institute in 1856 and served as a captain of
the Allegheny Roughs Light Artillery (Carpenter's Battery), 128 Regiment, 13th
Brigade, 5th Division of Virginia Militia during the Civil War. He was
severely wounded at the Battle of Cedar Mountain on 3 August and died from
his wounds on 5 February 1863.
W.I.A. = Wounded in Action.
SCHOOL: VMI
http://www1.vmi.edu/archiverosters/List.asp?num=2240
Joseph Hannah Carpenter (Class of 1856).
Genealogy: Born July 24, 1834, near Covington, Alleghany Co., Virginia; Father- Samuel Carpenter of Alleghany Co., VA; Mother- Martha Allen Hannah of Botetourt Co., VA; Paternal grandparents- William Carpenter and Mary [Persinger?]; Maternal grandparents- Joseph Hannah and Harriet [last name unknown]. Marriage: Never married. VMI Record: His parents were living near Covington, Virginia at the time of his enrollment. He entered VMI on July 13, 1852 and graduated on July 4, 1856, standing 7th out of 33 graduates. Occupation/Career: Deputy Clerk of Court and manager of a cement works. Military Record (Civil War): Entered service on April 22, 1861 at Covington as 1st Lieut., Company A, 27th Virginia Infantry; elected Captain August 1861; in late 1861 the company was converted to Artillery (known as Alleghany Roughs, Alleghany Artillery, Carpenter's Battery); unit was part of the famed Stonewall Brigade; mortally wounded in action (head) at Cedar Mountain in August 1862 and died 5 or 11 February 1863.
Joseph Hannah Carpenter (Class of 1856).
GRAVE: good images
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=15147776
Capt Joseph Hannah Carpenter
Birth: Jul. 24, 1834
Covington City
Virginia, USA
Death: Feb. 5, 1863
Bath County
Virginia, USA
Capt.,Co.A,27th Va.Inf.Regt.;Carpenter's Battery(Va.);WIA Cedar Mountain,Va.,8/9/1862;d. wounds,Fort Carpenter.
Note: Buried in Carpenter family plot,on right as you enter cemetery.
Burial:
Cedar Hill Cemetery
Covington
Covington City
Virginia, USA
Plot: Carpenter family plot
Created by: Scott Hutchison
Record added: Aug 04, 2006
Find A Grave Memorial# 15147776
COMMENT:
The Battle of Cedar Mountain, also known as Slaughter's Mountain or Cedar Run, took place on August 9, 1862, in Culpeper County, Virginia, as part of the American Civil War. Union forces under Maj. Gen. Nathaniel P. Banks attacked Confederate forces under Maj. Gen. Thomas J. "Stonewall" Jackson near Cedar Mountain as the Confederates marched on Culpeper Court House to forestall a Union advance into central Virginia. After nearly being driven from the field in the early part of the battle, a Confederate counterattack broke the Union lines resulting in a Confederate victory. The battle was the first combat of the Northern Virginia Campaign.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cedar_Mountain
16268.
Harriet Elizabeth Carpenter
Harriet Elizabeth (18) Carpenter was born 22 February 1837 and died 29 May
1925, unmarried.
16271.
Mary Catherine Carpenter
Mary Catherine (18) Carpenter was born 4 May 1844, married Dr. James Payne of
Falling Spring Valley, Virginia (date unknown) and died 21 November 1910.
16272.
James McDowell "Toby" Carpenter
James McDowell (18) Carpenter was born 4 September 1846, served in the
Carpenter Battery of artillery during the Civil War and died of his wounds 15
December 1865.
W.I.A. = Wounded in Action.
8229.
Burwell Carpenter
NOTE:
A Descendant tested as part of Group 13 of the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project.
Family Update from:
Van Ripper Family Tree
http://www.vanriper.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=vanriper&view=0&pid=26776&rand=983288730
WILL: See image: RIN 5349 Burwell Carpenter Will.pdf
CENSUS: 1790 US Census
Name: Burwell Carpenter
Home in 1790 (City, County, State): Wake, North Carolina
Free White Persons - Males - Under 16: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 16 and over: 1 <--- Born 1774 or before
Free White Persons - Females: 5
Number of Household Members: 7
Source Citation
Year: 1790; Census Place: Wake, North Carolina; Series: M637; Roll: 7; Page: 246; Image: 148; Family History Library Film: 0568147
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1790 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: First Census of the United States, 1790 (NARA microfilm publication M637, 12 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
Elizabeth
NAME: Surname may be Matthisson, Matison, or Mattison or even Madison?
16276.
Mary or Polly Carpenter
E-MAIL: From: Priscilla Wood
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 2:11 PM
To: John Carpenter
Subject: Burwell Carpenter
Hi John. I am at this Carpenter genealogy again. This time for my husbands line ,Burwell Carpenter b:1762 Nash NC, d:24 Jan 1831 Anderson SC. He married Elizabeth Mattison, and had many children, of which
Polly Mary Carpenter b 1796 Nash NC and died 1860 Pendelton Anderson SC.is the line I am fallowing.
She m: Laban Massey. Larry's grandmother was Martha Victoria Massey,3 geneations from Polly Mary Carpenter.
Do you have any info or Can you send me in the right direction to find source for this family?
Thanks,
Priscilla Wood
16278.
Elizabeth Carpenter
NAME: Elizabeth Walker and Elizabeth Carpenter appear to be the same person.
Elizabeth Lavina WALKER Birth: 8 Feb 1792 Becket, Berkshire, Massachusetts
Father: Ebenezer WALKER Mother: Elizabeth CARPENTER
NAME: Lovica WALKER Birth: 8 Feb 1792 Granville, Washington, New York. Same
Person.
These 3 Elizabeths were believed to be the same person. However, see mother's
notes for the problem with this!
16281.
Burwell Carpenter Jr.
See images:
RIN 5369 Burwell Carpenter Misc.jpg - this refers to him as John Burwell Carpenter. This is from the book called "Families of Old Pendleton district, South Carolina" Volume 2, by Linda Gale Smith Cheek.
NOTE: Image corrupted
Elizabeth "See Notes" Carpenter
Number 1105 in the Carpenter Memorial on page 171.
No Family listed.
Per corrective notes on page 839, Elizabeth married twice. First
to Ebenezer Walker of Becket, MA then secondly to Burwell Carpenter of
the Providence line that went to Virginia. This matches data in the Virginia
Carpenter data records.
AFN MTLC-KN and G8XP-PF are believed to be the same person.
However, children birth dates indicate she must have been born circa 1753 or
so. This seems to contradict the 1762 Elizabeth having children about 1773
unless there was two Elizabeths. THIS FAMILY ARRANGEMENT LEFT AS IS UNTIL
FURTHER DATA CAN BE FOUND. JRC 9/2000 SEE BELOW.
MARRIAGE: WARNING: BURWELL CARPENTER married ELIZABETH CARPENTER Abt. 1788, she was the daughter of ELISHA CARPENTER and DELIVERENCE MAROUGH.
-- This connection is incorrect. This is false data from Mattie Belle
Carpenter Ross connection to the western VA Carpenters. I cannot vouch for the
generations from Burwell on down, but it is my understanding that other
researchers have proved more of MBCR Elisha Carpenter with wife Deliverance Marough appears to have been lifted out of the IGI with no justification -- there is no evidence of any connection there and those two individuals did not live in NC.
Per Terry Lee Carpenter.
Burwell may have married an Elizabeth but she was not the daughter of ELISHA
CARPENTER and DELIVERENCE MAROUGH. Children transfered to the other "Elizabeth.
JRC. 1/2001
8230.
John Carpenter
NOTE:
A Descendant tested as part of Group 13 of the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project.
NAME:
John Carpenter did not have and never used a middle initial R., even though dozens of internet trees show it that way -- they copy each other and never check the original records. TLC
NOTE: Please note the profusion of wives to this John Carpenter. I know
at least one or more sets are wrong ... maybe. It will be interesting to see
which lines prove out in the future. Too many conflicting children and
spouses. Some of these John Carpenter families may belong to the related John Carpenters in this line. For now, I have included all data for future researchers. JRC 3/2000.
Slowly but surely we are moving children to their proper places!
Y-DNA has indicated that the son of this John, James Ludwell Carpenter-73141, matches descendants of Thomas Carpenter-5337 of Group 13. This seems to indicate that child and possibly marriage is correct. JRC 3/2010
CENSUS: 1810 US Census - Same person?
Name: John Carpenter
Home in 1810 (City, County, State): Franklin, North Carolina
Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 15: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44 : 1 <---- b. abt 1766 to 1784
Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 3
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44: 1
Numbers of Slaves: 9
Number of Household Members Under 16: 6
Number of Household Members Over 25: 2
Number of Household Members: 18
Source Citation
Year: 1810; Census Place: Franklin, North Carolina; Roll: 40; Page: 788; Image: 00159; Family History Library Film: 0337913
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1810 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: Third Census of the United States, 1810. (NARA microfilm publication M252, 71 rolls). Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
Nash County is northwest of Edgecombe County. Nash County was formed in 1777 from Edgecombe County. See:
CENSUS: 1820 US Census
CENSUS: 1830 US Census - John Carpenter Greene , Alabama 15 22
Name: John Carpenter
Home in 1830 (City, County, State): Greene, Alabama
Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: 2
Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 60 thru 69: 1
Free White Persons - Females - Under 5: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 50 thru 59: 1
Slaves - Males - Under 10: 1
Slaves - Males - 10 thru 23: 4
Slaves - Males - 24 thru 35: 2
Slaves - Males - 36 thru 54: 1
Slaves - Females - Under 10: 3
Slaves - Females - 10 thru 23: 2
Slaves - Females - 36 thru 54: 2
Free White Persons - Under 20: 4
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 1
Total Free White Persons: 7
Total Slaves: 15
Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored): 22
Source Citation
1830; Census Place: Greene, Alabama; Series: M19; Roll: 2; Page: 406; Family History Library Film: 0002329
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1830 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
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Original data: Fifth Census of the United States, 1830. (NARA microfilm publication M19, 201 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
DEATH:
Before 26 Apr 1836 which is the earliest date given in the probate record cited below. Likely he died a month or so prior. Call it about Mar 1836.
PROBATE: 1836 - images
Name: John Carpenter
Gender: Male
Probate Date: 12 Sep 1836 <--- earliest date in probate is 26 April 1836.
Probate Place: Greene, Alabama, USA
Inferred Death Year: Abt 1836
Inferred Death Place: Alabama, USA
Case Number: 317
Item Description: Estate Case Files No 314-323, Brantley, William, Folder 2 - Cunningham, John C, 1820-191
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Account Papers 1-3
Cover Page 4
Sales Paper 5
Inventory Papers 6-8
Account Papers 9-13
Administration Papers 14
Inventory Papers 15-16
Petition Papers 17-18
Account Papers 19-20
Petition Papers 21-25
Sales Paper 26-27
Account Papers 28-29
Administration Papers 30-31
Petition Papers 32
Inventory Papers 33-35
Petition Papers 36-39
Administration Papers 40-41
Account Papers 42-54
Administration Papers 55-58
Guardianship Papers 59-61
Account Papers 62-63
Petition Papers 64-65
Sales Paper 66-68
Inventory Papers 69-70
Petition Papers 71-74
Administration Papers 75-85
Account Papers 86-87
Guardianship Papers 88-92
Petition Papers 93-94
Account Papers 95-98
Petition Papers 99-115
Account Papers 116-117
Guardianship Papers 118-119
Account Papers 120-124
Order Papers 125-128
Petition Papers 129-131
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Source Citation
Greene County, Alabama, Estate Case Files, 1820-1915; Author: Alabama. Probate Court (Greene County); Probate Place: Greene, Alabama
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Alabama, Wills and Probate Records, 1753-1999 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015.
Original data: Alabama County, District and Probate Courts.
NOTE: Starting image is 688 of 1547. Then thats goes to image 818. There after is orpan court documents regarding guardianship records until image 983!
SEE:
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COMMENT: We have a Jubal Carpenter, Jr. with a probate in 1858 along with the 1836 plus many years of probate of John Carpenter of which a Jubal Carpenter was a son. Apparently he died during the probate of his father. The probate papers seem intermixed. JRC 20 Jun 2019.
Nathan M. Carpenter Executor for Jubal (yes, clearly Jubal and not John) Carpenter deceased. List of heirs, heirs in laws and legates. <---- Jubal Sr - son of John Carpenter
DAUGHTER - Millicent J(?) Cockrell, deceased - she departed before her father and had ...
1 - Dempsey Cockrell, admin of the Estate of Nathan E. Cockrell.
2- Augusteen W. Cockrell over 21.
3- Leoniedas A. Cockrell over 21.
4- Dempsey Cockrell, admin of the Nathan A. E. Cockrell deceased.
5- Luther D. Cockrell under 21.
6- Luinties Cockrell under 21.
7- James Cockrell under 21.
8- Catherine Cockrell under 21.
All of whom reside in Sumter County, Alabama. Dempsey Cockrell is the leagal guardian of those under 21 and are considered minors.
DAUGHTER - Eliza Hill, deceased and Jesse Hill, admin of the estate of Eliza Hill. She departed this life after (yes after) the death of her father in Greene County, AL.
SON - John D. Carpenter, over 21 years.
DAUGHTER - Sarah A. Cockrell.
SON - Nathan M. Carpenter.
DAUGHTER - Martha Weaver, wife of Reuben Weaver.
DAUGHTER - Elizabeth Higginbothume, deceased, who was the wife of Benjamin Higinbothume and him being the Heir in law of Admin of her estate. She died after the death of her father, but before the termination of the life estate created in the property and maintence in favor of Mrs. Sarah Carpenter - leving no child or children.
SON - Samuel T. Carpenter.
SON - Jubal Carpenter.
All over age 21 and who reside in Greene County, AL.
Dempsey Cockrell constents to being a second Administartor to estate.
List of real estate of John Carpenter sold on 20 Aug 1836. The total is $15,435.77. Jubal (son) buys seven sections and a Churchwell buys one.
Property and Inventory dated 2 April 1836 with estimated values. the total on first page is $1,929.25. The next page (includes slave names) is $15,178.77. See image 695 of 1547.
Sherriff of Greene County "empannelled" to sell off to Elizabeth Carpenter (widow & relice of John Carpenter, deceased) her dower in & to the real estate of said deceased per court order. List of properties.
Statement dated 14 Jan 1836 of those witnesses mentioned. <--- Unclear for what - hard to read. See 699 of 1547. The next page is for a disposition and petition of Jubal Carpenter and Churchwell Carpenter administrators of John Carpenter, deceased, now pending in the Orphans Court of Greene County, AL.
Inventory dated 25 Oct 1858 before the court that was missed in the personal property of Jubal Carpenter, deceased. Next page is a listing of property dated 23 Oct 1858.
List of the hire for labor of negroes and to whom dated 30 March 1836 by Administrators C. Carpenter and Jubal Carpenter Administrators.
Receipts of settlement dated 4 Sept 1863 to Sarah A. Cockrell and S. Tom Carpenter given by Nathan M. Carpenter, Executator of the estate of Jubal Carpenter.
On image 709 of 1547 is questions asked. This includes whether or not grandchildren are known of the deceased John Carpenter are known to Jubal Carpenter and Churchwell Carpenter, Administrators. This of those children of Harriett Carpenter, daughter of John Carpenter, deceased, who is also deceased and who married James B. Tutt. Requesting names and ages by James Yeates dated 13 June 1836.
List of property dated 4 May 1836 belonging to the estate of John Carpenter, deceased. Total given $9,505.46 1/2. Then follows sales of the estate. Total $20,288.24 1/2.
Annual settlement by Thomas Carpenter, Guardian for Stephen Carpenter dated 13 May 1839.
Admin Bond of Churchwell Carpenter and Jubal Carpenter dated 28 March 1836.
Receipt from Elizabeth Carpenter dated 16 May 1836 & executed on 19 May 1836.
Additional inventory and rents dated 9 Apr 1838. Total $491.06 1/4.
Receipt and supplemental inventory.
Petition of Elizabeth Carpenter wife of John Carpenter, deceased, for properties of the deceased. List given. Dated 26 April 1836.
Court accepts Jubal Carpenter and Churchwell Carpenter dated 13 Sept 1836 as Administrators of the estate of John Carpenter, deceased.
Image 729 of 1547 - final settlement Nathan Carpenter & Jacob Cockrell of Jubal Carpenter Administrator of John Carpenter deceased dated 14 May 1855.
On the next page is distributions ...
- To the heirs of Simeon Carpenter listing shares and amounts given.
to Benjamin Carpenter, Mary Raince, Thomas Carpenter, Furney Lee Carpenter, Jubal Carpenter, stephen Carpenter, Elizabeth Oneal, & Nancy Powell.
- To the minor heirs of Roena Brafofield (spelling?) ...
Wesley Brapfield, James A. Brapfield, Thomas Brapfield, & Levi Brapfield.
- To the heirs of Churchwell Carpenter ...
John N. Carpenter, Perry S. Carpenter, Kelly N. Carpenter, Eminia J. Carpenter, Ellen W. Carpenter, Mary A. M. Carpenter, Sidney C. Carpenter, Benjamin F. Carpenter, & Cora A. E. Carpenter.
- To the heirs of Jubal Carpenter ...
Eliza Hill wife of Jesse Hill, Sarah A. Cockrell wife of Jacob Cockrell, Natham M. Carpenter, & Martha Weaver wife of Ruben Weaver.
- To the heirs of Benjamin Williams ...
Mary Nalis wife of Josiah Nalis, Charity Jone wife of Woodson Jones, Jackson Williams, Meyrna Williams, Lawrence Williams, George Williams, & names cut off.
(Next page 732 of 1547)
- Heirs of Elizabeth Williams ...
Mary Nalis wife of Josiah Nalis, Charity Jones wife of Woodson Jones, Jackson WIlliams, Meyrna Williams, Lawrence Williams, George Williams, William C. Williams, Luschane Williams.
(Compare to Benjamin Williams heirs above)
- Heirs of Harritee Lutt ...
John Y. Lutt, James V. Lutt, Isabella Sanderson, & George W. Lutt.
- to Ludwell Carpenter.
Page 734 of 1547 - Expenses paid in 1855 on the estate of John Carpenter estate.
The comes a final settlement in the orphans Court during 1836 and 1837 and to whom.
Pettion of Jubal Carpenter & Churchwell Carpenter administrators of John Carpenter, deceased, regarding the death of Sarah Carpenter had properties listed. Some properties crossed off. The admins also further represent that Benjamin Carpenter, Jubal Carpenter, Winney Sanderford wife of James Sanderford, Churchwell Carpenter, Mary Raney wife of James Raney, Elizabeth Williams wife of Lawrence Williams - (Thomas Carpenter, Lee Carpenter, Rowena Brasfield wife of John Brasfield - Elizabeth Carpenter a minor about 17 years, Jubal Carpenter a minor about age 14, Stephen Carpenter a minor about 10 years, Nancy Carpenter a minor about 9 years, the same being the grandchildren of the said intestate and children of simeon Carpenter, deceased. -
Julia ann Richardson 10 years of age, M??? Richardson (hard to read maybe some type of relation to), Elizabeth Richardson, the grandchildren of said intestate and children of GGrien & Elizabeth Richardson. the said children all minors under 21. -
Zachariah tutt about seven years of age - V(?)iceroy Tutt about five years - Isabella Tutt about three or four years - George Tutt about eight months old, grandchildren of the said intestate and children of James B. Tutt & Harrietts Tutt late Harriett Carpenter.
(next page) Dated 29 April 1836. Recorded. (742 of 1547)
Elizabeth Carpenter the widow of the said decedant asking for lands to be sold, excepting the widows domain, for distribution of said estate.
Elizabeth Carpenter the widow of John Carpenter, deceased to herby release - relingusih, give, up all my right and privildege to take ot and recieve the lette rof administration of my deceased husband the said John Carpenter, deceased - and that it is my wish and desire that Jubal Carpenter and Churchwell Carpenter do take the Administartion thereof. Dated 6 March 1836.
Thomas Carpenter appointed guardian to Jubal Carpenter Jr. dated 9 April 1838.
Thomas Carpenter appointed guardian to Stephen Carpenter and Nancy Carpenter dated 9 April 1838.
Accounting by Thomas Carpenter on the behalf of Nancy Carpenter for 1844, 1845, & 1846 submitted 9 Nov 1846 - Ballanced due ward $564.65 3/4.
Image 752 of 1547 - Sale of real estate for the estate of John Carpenter, deceased by Admins.
(next page - now 1861)
Statement and opinion of Nathan M. Carpenter executor that on or about 14th day of January 1861 ... something about promisory note? <--- hard to read ... that said Jubal Carpenter at the time of his death ... <--- appears that Nathan M. Carpenter is executor of Jubal Carpenter. Maybe about 1866?
Then follows is an Inventory of notes and accounts beloing to the estate of Jubal Carpenter Jr., deceased. Dated 18 September 1838 or 1858.
Image 760 of 1547 - Report of County Sherriff to sell property as ordered by the court regarding the estate of Jubal Carpenter, Jr.
Aministration of the Jubal Carpenter, Jr. estate granted to A. R. Davis (Attoway? R.) dated 16 Sept 1858.
Nathan M. Carpenter executor of the last will and testament of Jubal Carpenter, deceased - fianl settlement - 1862/1863. Accounting list. Total $49,420.75. Next page is the list of collections and due to the estate. <--- Image 765 of 1547.
Accounting images to 772.
Then follows orphan court accounting and documents of minors mostly in April 1838.
Need to review the rest of the probate file ... 778 plus
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Image 819 of 1547
#317 Greene County Estate File - Carpenter, John 1838 Folder 100 - 2 of 2 folders.
Jubal Carpetner - administrator
Thomas Carpenter - guardian
Minors/heirs
Stephen Carpenter
Nancy Carpenter
Jubal Carpenter <---- Jr.
Elizabeth Carpenter
COMMENT:
Orphan court files on the above go to image 983 and mostly deals with accounting issues for minors.
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CENSUS: 1830 US Census - Other Carpenters in Greene County Alabama in 1830 follow.
Record Name Home in 1830 (County, State) Number of Slaves Total Number of All Persons
Wm Carpenter Greene, Alabama 1 7 <--- William Jr. C-203376
Simeon Carpenter Greene, Alabama 4 9 <--- Simeon C-203371
Benja Carpenter Greene, Alabama 10 <--- aka Samuel Benjamin C-73142, son of John C-5351
John Carpenter Greene, Alabama 15 22 <--- John C-5351, son of Thomas C-5337
Thomas Carpenter Greene, Alabama 3 <--- Thomas A. C-203375
Churchll Carpenter Greene, Alabama 8 15 <--- aka Churchwell C-73144, son of John C-5351
CENSUS: 1840 US Census - Other Carpenters in Greene County Alabama in 1840 follow.
Record Name Home in 1830 (County, State) Number of Slaves Total Number of All Persons
John R Carpenter Greene, Alabama 17 23 <--- aka John Rice C-73519
Simon Carpenter Greene, Alabama 17 30 <--- aka Simeon C-73148
Juval Carpenter Greene, Alabama 26 36 <--- aka Jubal C-73143
CENSUS: 1850 US Census - Other Carpenters in Greene County Alabama in 1850 follow.
Name Home in 1850 (City, County, State) Birth Year Birthplace Gender
Cornelia Carpenter Greene, Alabama abt 1841 Alabama Female
Hillard Carpenter Greene, Alabama abt 1820 North Carolina Male
John N Corpenter Greene, Alabama abt 1824 Alabama Male <--- John Newsom C-73391
Elizabeth Carpenter Greene, Alabama abt 1771 North Carolina Female
Eliza Carpenter Greene, Alabama abt 1819 North Carolina Female
Mary S Carpenter Greene, Alabama abt 1836 Alabama Female
Nancy Carpenter Pleasant Ridge, Greene, Alabama abt 1837 Alabama Female
Jubal Carpenter Clinton, Greene, Alabama abt 1813 North Carolina Male <--- Jubal C-73143
Ann Carpenter Greene, Alabama abt 1844 Alabama Female
John R Carpenter Greene, Alabama abt 1811 North Carolina Male <--- John RIce C-73519
Mary Carpenter Pleasant Ridge, Greene, Alabama abt 1808 South Carolina Female
Ellen Carpenter Clinton, Greene, Alabama abt 1825 Alabama Female
Nathan M Carpenter Clinton, Greene, Alabama abt 1827 Alabama <--- Nathan M. C-73379
Theodore Carpenter Clinton, Greene, Alabama abt 1846 Alabama Male
Elizabeth Carpenter Clinton, Greene, Alabama abt 1834 Alabama Female
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From: Donna Cuzze
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 1:31 PM
To: John R. Carpenter
Subject: Re: Jubal Carpenter definitely Edgecombe, NC
Hi,
I always wished Jubal was my ancestor as no one else had that name and would be so much easier to trace, ha ! But nooo... we had to be of Thomas.
Thanks for the info. I also found this today:
"John R. Carpenter of Greene County, Alabama sold land in FranklinCounty, NC April 5, 1833. Deed to Benjamin Carpenter in Franklin County, NC March 8, 1811; deed to Jubal Carpenter in Franklin County,NC March 17, 1818 and deed to Churchwell Carpenter of Greene County,Alabama 2/1/1828 "
Was posted at: which shows John as father of Jubal. That is probably correct. And Thomas of Nash did have a son named John according to a bunch of researchers. So perponderance of evidence leads one to believe this line is correct as posted:
1. Thomas of Nash
2. John of Edgecombe, Franklin & Greene Co
3. Jubal of Edgecombe, Franklin & Greene Co.
3. Churchwell of "
3. Benjamin of "
* they also show James & Simeon but I didn't see any docs with John and their names together.
So now we have proved the Greene County AL Carpenters are not of the Abigail Jordan line.
Donna From: Donna Cuzze
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 11:14 PM
To: John R. Carpenter 2
Subject: Re: Limestone Carps #1
First thing I see is this error:
4) Albert L. Carpenter-73496 of
Allen Richardson Carpenter-73481 of
Thomas J. Carpenter-73418 of
Simeon Carpenter-73148 of
John Carpenter-5351 b. abt 1764 Nash, NC M. abt 1790 , Greene, AL ***d. 1824 Newman,, GA*** Spouses: Elizabeth UpChurch, Mary ? and Mary Lee ?. AND way to many children!!! of Thomas “Jack” Carpenter-5337 b. 1740 Botetourt, VA d. 6 Aug 1803 ,, NC - See Group 13.
This line was supposed to be members of Group 2, but ...
Genetically tested descendants of Thomas "Jack" Carpenter-5337 are in Group 13 and Group 16. We do not know if this was an adoption situation or what. This line went from VA through Nash County, NC, to Greene County, AL (some alternating between NC & AL and one dying in Newman, GA) then Albert born in LA before winding up in TX. Someone got that all messed up. This was one of those "somebody said" and everyone copied it, including me at one point. However, now we know the John who died 1824 in Newman, COWETA, GA was John Carpenter the son of Abigail Jordan. He was definitely not the John of NC. Anson Co NC had both an Allen & a Thomas Carpenter listed in 1840 Anson Co but that Thomas was still there in 1860. There was also a Thomas Carpenter in Wake Co NC in 1840 that was of right age to be Allen's father. Some folks on Ancestry show Simeon of Franklin Co NC as his father but no one has any sources.
Thomas was in Sumter Co AL by 1850 where Allen b.1832 is in household. Then Allen is found in MS then LA with son Albert. Then Albert is found in Limestone. So, the latter part was pretty simple to piece together.
Here is what I show for the Greene Co AL Carpenters (Sumter is next to Greene, Montgomery & Washington. BLM shows no old deeds for Carpenters in Sumter):
1. Jubal, Benjamin & Churchwell Carpenters "all" deeded Greene Co in 1823. Records show them born in NC.
2. John Carpenter deeded land in Greene Co in 1828 & 1831 which is hard to do if he died in 1824. He is said to have married Elizabeth Upchurch.
John is said to be older than the other 3 and presumably their father.
John is said to be the son of Thomas Jack Carpenter. This info from others, I've not researched it.
3. Thomas Jack Carpenter d.circa 1803 in Nash Co NC.
4. I found the following land patents for Carpenters in 1830s Greene Co AL:
SIMEON (1830 1837) THOMAS (1834 1837) BENJAMIN (1835) CHURCHWELL M. (1832 1833)
FURNEY L. (1833 1834) JOHN R. (1834) JOHN (1831 1837) JUBAL Jubill? (1837)
KENNITH (1837) PHILLIP (1837) LEE (1834) LEROY (1837)
and SHADRACH (1834)
Thomas Carpenter (1811) might be the one listed in the 1830 Greene Co AL census (of right age with a wife and one young daughter). His son Allen stated he was born in AL so Thomas had to be there by 1832.
The Thomas in question (1811) was in Sumter in 1850 with Allen in hshold and then still in Sumter Co in 1860 and Allen was not (Allen was in Lauderdale MS). So it is very possible that Allen (1832) 's father Thomas (1811) was of the Greene Co Carpenter line. But if Thomas's father was John of Greene Co, his father did not die in 1824 GA. John of Greene Co was alive in the 1830 census, age 60-69.
Donna
NOTE:
John Carpenter-5351 (b.1764 d.1824) – Conflicting Spouses & children
TLC notes that John See Notes Carpenter-5351 is not related to Thomas “Jack” Carpenter-5337. This line is the old Mattie Belle Carpenter Ross's book on her family "My Ancestry" which was put together by her and a bogus researcher in GA, and is full of errors.
BOOK: See page 46 (for notes) of the Mowrey 1997 book. See book information
below:
UPDATE OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE NEW ENGLAND CARPENTER FAMILY OF ENGLISH ORIGIN - THE VIRGINIA / WEST VIRGINIA BRANCH - SOME DESCENDANTS OF JOSEPH CARPENTER - PIONEER OF THE JACKSON RIVER - MOWREY"S VERSION.
BY TERRY LEE CARPENTER AND PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
PRO BONO PUBLICO - PRIVATELY PUBLISHED, DOVER, OHIO, 1997.
BY PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
Page 46: 1. John (17) Carpenter presented Solomon's discharge in Botetourt
County court in February of 1780 and proved Solomon (15)'s Ranger service. He
was identified as "son of Thomas Carpenter and heir of Solomon Carpenter" on
this date and was issued a warrant for 60 acres of land as such. This
relationship was restated in another Botetourt County court case on 5 May 1791.
Brother Reuben, this John & grandson of Reuben Thomas were listed on the
1803 GA tax roll. In 1805 Henry, John & Thomas were listed in the
Lincoln Co. Georgia Land Lottery.
E-MAIL: Subj: Carpenter GEDCOM Date: 99-03-19 From:
dcarter@mylink.net (Daniel Carter)
John, Hi, sorry I did not supply enough information in my first E-mail.
Here is what I have on him: John CARPENTER, b. ca. 1773 in VA.
My first record of him is when he paid taxes in Hancock, GA in 1804. He
entered the GA Land Lottery in 1805, as a batchelor, and drew one lot, # 866.
For him to do this, he must have been in GA for at least a year. He was married
around 1805 as well, I believe. His wifes name was Mary, b. ca 1790. She was
believed to be Indian, Cherokee. He apparently moved, to Putnam Co., GA, paying
taxes in 1815. He entered the 1820 GA Land Lottery, having two draws, receiving
his land in Irving and Early County Districts. He was enumerated on the 1820
Federal census of Hancock Co., GA. He was shown with his wife Mary, five boys
and four girls:
Hamilton Carpenter, b. ca. 1808, Deborah Carpenter, b. ca. 1810, George W.
Carpenter, b. ca. 1811, Nancy Carpenter, b. ca. 1813, Bical Carpenter, b. ca.
1814, John Carpenter, b. 1815, Eleazar "Eli" Carpenter, b. 1816, James
Carpenter, b. 1817, Sarah H. Carpenter, b. 1825.
John Carpenter died around 1839. Mary died ca. 1857. Hope this information
helps.it is all I have on he and his wife. I have plenty on the children and
the resulting families. I am descended from Hamilton.
Thank you for responding, Daniel Carter.
WEB: "http://members.aol.com/wylenel/index.html"> Wylene & Joys Ancestory
Here is my web page with more information on it if you have the
time...... Wylene Alston. 27 July 1999 WyleneL@aol.com .
This web page chronicles Wylene's searches through the land records and other
data. It is well done. She is not convinced of the ancestry. She may be
right. JRC.
Part of her page is listed here;
JOHN AND MARY CARPENTER
Headright Land Grants were land grants issued by the Colonial Government,
based upon the number of persons in a household. A man would be entitled to
two hundred acres as his own headright, plus an additional fifty acres for his
wife, each child and each slave. He could not receive over one
thousand acres. The Colonial Government was under the rule of a King or
Queen in England. These grants were given to entice settlers into this new
Country. After the American Revolutionary War, our government gave out land
grants which were called Bounty Grants. These were given to men that had served
America during the war. Widows, orphans and certain others could also receive
these grants. In 1805, the United States Government began distribution
of lands that were ceded to them in Indian treaties. This distribution
of land was done by Land Lottery in which lots were drawn from hats. When there
were more entries than lots, blanks were used. Those that drew blanks
received no land. A free white male, a bachelor, 21 years of age or
over with one year of residence in Georgia, and a United States citizen received
one draw. A married male with the same qualifications received two draws.
Our earliest record of John Carpenter, who was born in Virginia between 1770
and 1780, was when he paid land taxes in Hancock County, Georgia, in 1804.
John Carpenter entered, and as a bachelor, drew only one lot. This was
lot number 866 which was a blank. Hancock County, Georgia, was formed
partly from Headright Land Grants, Bounty Grant Lands, and partly from Indian
lands. For John to enter the 1805 Land Lottery, he had to show proof of one
year of residence. This would mean that he was in Georgia by 1804.
John and Mary Carpenter were probably married by 1805. Many have wondered at
the degree of Indian blood of this couple.
Was Mary an Indian, or was John? Maybe they both were. The only documentation
found that even hints at Indian blood is on
the 1850 Federal Census record of their son, George W. Carpenter, in
Upson County, Georgia, on page 285. The census taker turned the page
sideways and wrote what surely must be "NATIVE AM. CLASSIFICATION".
John Carpenter paid land taxes in Putnam County, Georgia, in 1815. He entered
the 1820 Georgia Land Lottery, this time he
had two draws, and received his land in the Irvin and Early Districts.
John was enumerated in the 1820 Federal Census in Hancock County, Georgia. He
was shown with his wife, five sons and four
daughters. This would have been one daughter born 1804-10, Hamilton and George
W. born 1804-1810, Deborah, Nancy and
Bical born 1810-1820, John, Eli, and James born 1810-1820.
In 1822 Crawford County was formed out of parts of old Houston, Marion, Talbot,
and Macon Counties, Georgia. Then in
1824, Upson County was created from Pike and Crawford Counties.
On the sixth day of July 1824, John Carpenter and a John Bell, together,
purchased lot number 82, in the 16th district of
Houston County, Georgia. This land lot had been drawn by a Sheldon Farrow, but
it had been levied on and sold to John
Carpenter and Bell by Sheriff Burrell Orr of Pike County, Georgia.
More than a year later, on the 29th of November 1825, in Burke County, Georgia,
John Carpenter paid seventy dollars to Bell,
and received a quit claim deed to Bell's share of this property. This second
deed was written on the back of the first deed. These
deeds were not registered until the first of March 1845, in Upson County.
Hamilton Carpenter, the oldest son of John and Mary Carpenter, entered the 1827
Georgia Land Lottery. He drew land lot
number 180, District 9, Section 1 in Putnam County.
John Carpenter and his family were listed on the 1830 Federal Census in Putnam
County, Georgia. Their household consisted
of seven males and four females. This would have been John, listed as born
1770-1780, Mary born as born 1790-1800. The
eldest daughter was gone, probably married. Hamilton was listed as born
1800-1810, Deborah as born 1800-1810, George born
1810-1815, Nancy and Bical born 1810-1815, John and Eli born 1815-1820. James
and another male are listed as born between
1820-25. We have no record of this last male child, and we don't find
Sarah on this census. She was born ca. 1825, and should be listed.
There is a possibility that she was mistakenly recorded as a male, but in the
1840 census there is also a male listed who is
unaccounted for. So most likely, there was a son younger than James.
This youngest son was listed in the 1830 and 1840 censuses, but was not living
at home in 1850, when the first census was taken
that listed each member of the family by their first name and gave their age
and state of birth.
The Carpenter family was probably still living in Putnam County when George W.
Carpenter married Elizabeth Louisa Wallace
there on the fifth of June 1832. On the tenth of December of the same year,
John Carpenter deeded fifty acres of land in
Putnam County to a John Cousins.
John and Mary and their family, probably along with George and his family, had
relocated in Upson County, Georgia, by the
first of January 1838, when their daughter, Deborah A. Carpenter, married
William Hickey there. Another daughter, Bical
Carpenter, married Pleasant Spears on the fourteenth of January 1838, also in
Upson County.
George W. Carpenter sold some land in Upson County to Sarah Raines on the
twentieth of April 1839. George W. then moved
to Talbot County, Georgia, where he was listed on the 1840 census with his
wife, three sons and one daughter.
In the 1840 Federal Census of Upson County, Georgia, Mary was listed as head of
the household. Also enumerated were four
males and one other female. This would have been Hamilton, Eli, James, the
youngest son, and Nancy. John Carpenter had
died in the latter part of 1839. Deborah Carpenter Hickey and Bical Carpenter
Spears and were in their husband's households in 1840.
John Carpenter Jr. in 1840, was listed as head of his own house- hold as born
1810-1820. A female is also listed in his household as born 1820-1825. Sarah wasn't shown in her mother's household in 1840. This could very well be Sarah, keeping house for her brother. On the first of May 1841, Hamilton Carpenter and McDade Donnelly signed, sealed and delivered a security bond to Samuel Caraway, the Deputy Sheriff of Upson County. This bond of five hundred and twenty-six dollars and ninety cents was payable to William W. McNeil. The conditions of the bond was that George W. Carpenter should appear at the next Superior Court in Upson County on the third Monday in August, and would not depart from the county. To secure that McDade Donnelly would not be held liable for any loss, Hamilton Carpenter put up as security, one hundred acres and a negro girl named Betty, about twenty-one years of age.
John Carpenter Jr. married Sarah Cummings on the twenty-third of August 1846 in
Upson County, Georgia. She was possibly the daughter of Stephens Cummings. As far as we know, they only had one child, Napoleon, born in 1847.
James Carpenter married Irene/Arena Norris on the tenth of January 1848, in Troup County, Georgia. He probably died before 1850, when the Federal Census was taken. In 1850, Irene and their daughter, Sarah A., was enumerated in the household of her parents, Samuel and Elizabeth Norris. In 1860, Irene and Sarah are
listed in the household of her brother-in-law, Mark H. Griffin, the husband of her sister, Cornelia. Elizabeth Norris, widowed, was also living in the Griffin household.
On the seventh of May 1850, George W. and Eleazar Carpenter witnessed a deed for their brother, Hamilton Carpenter. Also witnessing the deed was Edmond Killebrew, a neighbor of George W. Carpenter. In
the 1850 Federal Census of Upson County, Georgia, taken on the twenty-eighth day of April, Edmond Killebrew was listed as household number two.
Household number four was George Carpenter and his wife, Elizabeth Louisa (Wallace) and their eight children, Jesse, George, Sarah, John, Louisa, Diadimona, Missouri and Harriet, with an age range of three through eighteen years. George is listed as a farmer. By 1860, George and his family were in Stewart County, Georgia, where they established their permanent home.
William and Deborah (Carpenter) Hickey and their children, Mary, Benjamin and Caroline were household forty-one, with William Hickey's occupation shown as a blacksmith. By 1860, the Hickeys were settled in Schley County, Georgia.
Hamilton and Berthina (Norris) Carpenter and their first three children, Calvin, Greenville "Green" and Deborah, were household number fifty-one. Hamilton was listed as a farmer. Berthina was shown as not being able to read or write. Hamilton and his family stayed in Upson County, Georgia, on the Carpenter land.
This land remained in the Carpenter family until Hamilton's son, Green Carpenter, sold it to his stepson, Edgar Allen, the twenty-sixth day of December 1916.
Edgar Allen was the son of John Wesley Allen, who died in 1862 of neglect and
lack of supplies while serving in the Confederate Army. After the Civil War, Edgar's mother, Frances Allen, married
Green Carpenter. They had one daughter, Lucille, who married Scott McMichael on the twenty seventh of April 1907, in Upson County.
Eli and Annzena (Norris) Carpenter were household fifty-two. At that time, they
had three children, Mary Ann, Dilly, and an infant listed as two months old. Dilly is listed on an old bible record as
Juley Ellender. She died the first of September 1858.
The 1850 census and the bible entry of her birth and death are the only record
we have of her. The infant listed was William Cicero Carpenter. Eli and Annzena are both shown as being unable to read or write. In 1860 Eli, his family and brother, John Jr., are listed in Randolph County, Alabama.
Household number fifty-three was John Jr. and Sarah (Cummings) Carpenter, their
son, Napoleon, and Mary and Nancy Carpenter. John Jr. is listed as unable to read and write, without occupation
and insane. Nancy is listed as an idiot. There is no notation as to whether she could read or write, but it is doubtful.
Mary Carpenter died before 1860, probably before the twenty-fourth of April 1855, when Nancy was admitted to the Georgia State Mental Hospital in Milledgeville, Georgia.
Nancy could very well have been a victim of Down's Syndrome. There has been several instances of it down through the family.
Mary was probably the only one who could control Nancy. When she died, Nancy
didn't understand what had happened to her mother and was grief stricken with the loss. The rest of the family probably couldn't manage her, so they had her committed.
Nancy died the thirtieth of June 1855, two months after entering the Georgia Mental Hospital in Milledgeville.
As to John Carpenter Jr., it is not so easy to come up with a simple explanation. John married Sarah Cummings on the 23 of August 1846, in Upson County, Georgia. At that time, to have acquired a wife, he probably was or seemed to be functioning normally. They had one child, Napoleon, who was three years old in 1850. No one
will probably ever know what was wrong with John, Jr. In 1860, Mary and Nancy were both dead. Sarah (Cummings) Carpenter and her son, Napoleon, were in the household of W.R. Jarrold in Upson, County, Georgia. Sarah was listed as a domestic. John was living in the household of his brother, Eleazar,
in Randolph County, Alabama.
JOHN AND MARY CARPENTER
JOHN CARPENTER
b. ca. 1770-1775, VA
d. ca. 1832-1840, GA
m. ca. 1806-1807
MARY _________
b. ca. 1790, NC
d. 1854-5, GA
1. daughter
b. ca. 1806, GA
2. B. HAMILTON CARPENTER
b. ca. 1808, GA
d. after 1870, prob. Upson Co., GA
m. 3 Mar 1845, Harris Co., GA
BERTHENA E. NORRIS
b. ca. 1825, GA
d. after 1880, prob. Upson Co., GA
She was the daughter of SAMUEL and ELIZABETH NORRIS.
3. DEBORAH A. CARPENTER
b. ca. 1810, Hancock Co., GA
d. after 1870, prob. Schley Co., GA
m. 1 Jan 1837, Upson Co., GA
WILLIAM HICKEY
b. ca. 1812, GA
d. after 1870, prob. Schley Co., GA
He was a blacksmith.
4. GEORGE W. CARPENTER
b. ca. 1811, GA
d. after 1880, prob. Steward Co., GA
m. 5 Jan 1832, Putman Co., GA
ELIZABETH LOUISA WALLACE
b. ca. 1814, GA
d. after 1880, prob. Stewart Co., GA
5. NANCY CARPENTER
b. ca. 1812-13, GA
d. 30 Jun 1855, State Mental Hospital, Milledgeville, GA
unmarried
6. BICAL CARPENTER
b. ca. 1814, GA
m. 14 Jan 1838, Upson Co., GA
PLEASANT SPEARS
b. ca 1815
7. JOHN CARPENTER
b. 1815, GA
m. 23 Aug 1846, Upson Co., GA
SARAH CUMMINGS
b. 1825-1831, GA
She was prob. the daughter of Stephen Cummings, listed in 1860 Upson Co., GA,
Federal Census. In 1850 Upson Co., GA,
John is listed as insane. In 1860 Upson Co., GA, Sarah, listed as a domestic,
and their son Napoleon, were in the household of W. R. Jarrold.
John was in the household of his brother, Eli, in Randolph Co., AL.
8. ELEAZAR "ELI" CARPENTER
b. 1816, GA
d. 30 Oct 1864, Baltimore, MD, a paroled prisoner of war in a Union hospital.
bur. 1 Nov 1864, B-64 Louden Park Cem., Confederate Lot,
Baltimore, MD.
m. 10 May 1846, Troup Co., GA
ANNZENA "ANGINE" NORRIS
b. Mar 1831, GA
d. After 1900, prob. OK
She was the daughter of SAMUEL and ELIZABETH NORRIS. She
married 2nd, 19 Aug 1886, E. D. CHRISTIAN.
9. JAMES CARPENTER
b. 1817, GA
d. before 1850
m. 10 Jan 1848, Troup Co., GA
IRENE NORRIS, GA
b. ca. 1827
She was the daughter of SAMUEL and ELIZABETH NORRIS.
10. son
b. ca. 1824, GA
d.
11. SARAH H. CARPENTER
b. 1825, GA
BIBLIOGRAPHY
1. 1820 Federal Census of Hancock Co., GA.
2. 1830 Federal Census of Putnam Co., GA.
3. 1840-1850-1860-1870-1880 Federal Censuses of Upson Co., GA 4. 1840 Federal
Census of Talbot Co., GA.
5. 1860-1870-1880 Federal Censuses of Steward Co., GA.
6. 1860-1870 Federal Censuses of Schley Co., GA.
7. 1860 Federal Census of Randolph Co., AL.
8. 1880 Federal Census of Elmore Co., AL.
9. 1850-1860-1870-1880 Federal Census of Tallapoosa Co., AL
10. 1900-1910 Federal Census of Navarro Co., TX
11. 1900-1910 Federal Censuses of Bosque Co., TX
12. IGI File marriage records for Harris, Upson, Troup, and Putnam Counties,GA
13. Early Georgia Tax Digest, by R. J. Taylor Jr., Foundation -
Atlanta, Georgia
14. 1805 Georgia Land Lottery, by Virginia A. Wood and Ralph Wood.
15. Putnam County, GA, deed records.
16. Georgia Index to Tax Records, 1804-1806, 1814-1817.
17. The 1820 and the 1821 Land Lotteries of Georgia, by Georgia
Genealogical Reprints and Southern Genealogical Press.
18. Reprint of Official Register of Land Lottery of Georgia 1827,
by Miss Martha Lou Houston.
19. Early Georgia Marriages, compiled by Joseph T. Maddox.
20. County Courthouse records from Putnam and Upson Counties, GA
21. Georgia State Mental Hospital, Milledgeville, GA records.
22. List of Confederate Soldiers Who Died While Prisoner of War
at Baltimore, MD, film, listed under Baltimore, MD.
23. Family tradition from Wyile Emerson and Tullos Carpenter.
24. Bible record belonging to Miley Jo Wagner, Granddaughter of
James Carpenter.
Compiled by: WYLENE L@AOL.COM and Accessing My Place Accessing My Place
Joy Adams-JA7238@AOL.COM
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B. HAMILTON CARPENTER
SECOND CHILD OF
JOHN AND MARY ANN CARPENTER
Hamilton Carpenter was the oldest son of John and Mary Carpenter. He was born
in 1808, in Georgia. We first find record of
him when he entered the 1827 Georgia Land Lottery. He drew land lot number 180,
District 9, Section 1, in Putnam County.
He would have been about nineteen years old at that time. He was living in his
father's household in Putnam County, Georgia,
when the 1830 Federal Census was taken. About 1835 he moved with his family to
Upson County, Georgia.
He was listed paying a poll tax of twenty-two cents in 1837. The Upson County
Tax Digest shows that he paid tax one hundred
and one and one fourth acres in District #1. The next time Hamilton was shown
paying a tax was in 1839, where he paid tax on
the same land as in 1837, twenty-eight cents.
John Carpenter died in June 1839, without a will. Everything he owned had to be
inventoried and sold. Hamilton purchased
the following items from his father's estate: one log chain, two dollars and
six and one fourth cents; one broad ax, three dollars
and fifty-six and one fourth cents; one lot of plow gear, two dollars and six
and one fourth cents; one lot plow and ox ring, two
dollars and twelve and one half cents; one lot farming tools, one dollar; one
scythe and cradle, one dollar and sixty-two and
one half cents; one plow, saw and cuneiform (wedge), sixty-two and one half
cents; one iron wedge, eighty-one and one fourth
cents; one lot of hoes, one dollar and thirty-one and one fourth cents; 3 axes,
two dollars and twelve and one half cents; one
steelyard (scales), twenty-five cents; eight bushels of oats, three dollars;
and three bushels of oats, eighty-seven and one half cents.
In 1840, Hamilton paid taxes on the land that his father, John Carpenter, had
paid taxes on prior to 1840. Hamilton was not in
the Tax Digest in 1841. In 1842, besides paying tax on the same land as in
1840, Hamilton was also shown as having two
hundred and thirty dollars and fifty cents at interest, and paid three dollars
and five and three fourths cents in tax. In 1843, he was only listed as
paying tax the land, his tax was one dollar and sixty- five cents.
Hamilton was listed with only one hundred acres in 1844, but he also owned two
slaves, and paid two dollars and thirty-one
cents in tax. In 1945, he paid tax on one hundred and sixty-seven acres and two
slaves. He paid two dollars and forty-eight cents in tax.
On the third of March 1845, Hamilton Carpenter married Berthena Norris in
Harris County, Georgia. She was the daughter of
Samuel and Mary Elizabeth (Stone) Norris. Hamilton's brother, Eleazar "Eli",
married Berthena's sister, Annzena, and his brother, James, married her
sister, Irene. On the first of May 1841, Hamilton Carpenter and McDade
Donnelly signed, sealed and delivered a security bond to Samuel
Caraway, the Deputy Sheriff of Upson County. This bond of five hundred and
twenty-six dollars and ninety cents and was
payable to William W. McNeil. The conditions of the bond was that George W.
Carpenter should appear at the next Superior
Court in Upson County on the third Monday in August, and would not depart from
the county. To secure that McDade
Donnelly would not be held liable for any loss, Hamilton Carpenter put up as
security, one hundred acres and a negro girl
named Betty, about twenty-one years of age.
There are no tax records for 1846 through 1849 in Upson County, but in 1850
Hamilton Carpenter paid tax on one hundred
and sixty-nine acres and paid eighty-eight cents in tax.
On the second of May 1850, Hamilton Carpenter sold one hundred and sixty-nine
acres of land to Edward Raines for eight
hundred dollars. His brothers, George W. and Eleazar, and an Edward Killebrew
witnessed the deed. In 1851 when he paid his
poll tax, he owned no land, but had four hundred and thirty dollars at interest
and paid one dollar and twenty-seven cents.
On the twenty-fifth of August eighteen fifty-one, Hamilton Carpenter purchased
two hundred and two and one half acres of
land from his brother George W. Carpenter, he paid one thousand dollars. This
deed was not recorded until the twentieth of
March eighteen ninety-five.
In the 1850 census of Upson County, Georgia, taken on the twenty- eighth of
August, Hamilton Carpenter was listed as head of house hold number fifty-one.
He was shown to be forty-two years of age, born in Georgia, and was a farmer.
The value of his real estate was shown as eight hundred dollars.
Berthena was twenty-five years old and born in Georgia. It was indicated that
she could not read or write. At that time they had three children, Calvin, age
3, Greenville, age 2, and Debora, two months old.
There are no tax records for 1852 and 1853. In 1854 Hamilton was shown with two
hundred and two and one half acres and
paid a tax of twenty-five cents. The tax records for 1855 are also lost, but in
1856, "Hambleton" Carpenter was listed with two
hundred and three and one half acres and paid a tax of one dollar and
ninety-one cents. This record shows he has one child
between eight and sixteen. This was the only age group for children listed on
the tax records.
Tax records for only one year between 1856 and 1860 are available, and which
year is unknown, but Hamilton had the same acreage, paid twenty-five cents in
tax and still had only one child between eight and sixteen. In 1860, he had
the same acreage, paid the same amount of tax, but had seven children between
eight and sixteen. The 1860 Federal Census taker in Upson County, Georgia,
was remiss in his job and used initials instead of taking the time to
write the given names of the people being enumerated. On page six hundred and
fifty, B. H. Carpenter was listed as fifty-three
years of age. His personal worth had increased from eight hundred dollars in
real estate in 1850 to seventeen hundred dollars in
real estate and three hundred and fifty dollars in personal estate.
Berthena, shown as B. E. Carpenter, was thirty-six years old and was again
listed as unable to read and write. C. N. (Calvin)
was thirteen, G. N. (Greenville) was twelve, D. A. E. (Deborah) was ten, J. T.
(James) was nine, B. A. (Ann) was seven, L. A. D.
(Lydia) was five, H. P. (Hamilton Parks) was two, and J. G. (John) was listed
as zero twelfths.
On this 1860 census, Hamilton Carpenter was listed as dwelling house number
eight hundred and seventy-two. Dwelling house
numbers eight hundred and seventy-two and seventy-three were listed as
unoccupied. These were probably the houses that Eli
and John Carpenter were listed as living in as heads of the household in the
1850 census.
In 1861 Hamilton paid tax on two hundred and three acres, has five children
between eight and sixteen and paid twenty-five
cents in tax. In 1862 and 1863 he has six children between eight and sixteen
and a tax amount isn't listed. In 1863 his land had
increased to two hundred fifty-seven acres His land in 1864 was listed as two
hundred and three acres and he paid forty-five dollars and fifty-seven cents.
There is no record of an estate settlement for Hamilton Carpenter, but
according to tax records, he died between the time he
paid taxes in 1864 and 1865 when his widow, Berthina, was listed on the tax
records.
On the eighth of June 1870, Berthena was shown as head of household number
three hundred sixty-one. She was forty-six years
old and unable to read or write. Her real estate value was listed as one
thousand dollars and her personal estate as five hundred dollars.
Deborah Carpenter's age was listed as twenty-four years, but this is not
correct, she would have been twenty. She was listed as
two months old in 1850 and ten years old in 1860. Her occupation, as all the
children in the household, was listed as farm hand
and they were all shown as not being able to read or write.
James Carpenter was twenty, Ann, seventeen, Lydia, fifteen, Parks, thirteen,
and John, ten. Jeff's age is covered by an ink
blotch, but he would have been seven, his age was listed as
seventeen in 1880. Also listed is a female child, Carrey Carpenter, her age
was seven months old, with the notation that she was
born in November. This child was not listed in the 1880 census.
Calvin Carpenter married Frances M. "Fannie" Smith in Upson County, Georgia, on
the seventh of November 1869. They were
living next to Berthena, in household three hundred sixty-two in 1870.
This was probably the house Eli and Annzena Carpenter occupied in 1850.
The next household after Calvin Carpenter, number three hundred and
sixty-three, could have been the house Mary Carpenter
was living in when she died. James Smith, forty years old and listed as a farm
hand, was living in it in 1870. His wife, Martha,
was also age forty. They were probably the parents of Calvin's wife, Frances.
Calvin was twenty-four years old and was listed as
a farm hand, he was probably working for his mother, Berthena. Frances was
twenty years old and shown as keeping house. Their daughter, Mary, was four
months old, with the notation she was born in March.
All of Berthena (Norris) Carpenter's children were living with her, or in the
next household, in 1870, except for Greenville
"Green" Carpenter. We haven't located him in 1870. Green Carpenter married
Frances Allen, the widow of Job Allen, on the
seventeen of December 1879, in Upson County, Georgia. Job Allen died of disease
at Camp Pickens, Virginia, on the
twenty-first of January 1862. Green and Frances Carpenter had one daughter,
Lucille. She married Scott McMichael, whose family lived nearby.
In 1880, in Upson County, Green Carpenter and his wife, Frances, were living in
household ninety-one. Berthena was head of
the household in number ninety-two. Listed with her were Deborah, thirty,
Lydia, twenty-five, Hamilton P., twenty-two, John
G., twenty, Jefferson J., seventeen, Alice Carpenter, ten, listed as a
grand-daughter and Hamilton, 22, named as a nephew. This
nephew was John Hamilton Carpenter, the youngest son of Hamilton's brother,
Eli, and Berthenia's sister, Annzena (Norris) Carpenter.
Calvin Carpenter was in household number ninety-three. He and his wife,
Frances, had three children, Mary, ten, James W., five, and Charles one.
It is possible that the Carrey Carpenter, listed in Berthena's household in
1870 as age seven months, is the above mentioned
Alice. The ages are the same. The 1880 census was the first to name the
relationship of the members of the household to the
head of the household, so there is no way of knowing if Carrey was a
granddaughter. Then there is the question of whose daughter was Alice? Calvin
has a daughter, Mary, a few months older, so she wouldn't have been his
Green wasn't married. It is possible that she may have been Deborah's daughter.
On the seventeenth of December 1890, Green Carpenter purchased his brother
Jack's one eighth share of inherited land from
their father's estate for one hundred and ten dollars and sixty-two cents. On
the ninth of May 1891, Green purchased his
brother Calvin's one eighth share for ninety dollars. Calvin's share included
what was known in the area, as the "Carpenter Spring".
Green Carpenter then purchased his brother John G.'s share on the thirtieth of
May 1891, for one hundred and ten dollars and
sixty- two cents. On the twenty-eighth of November he purchased his sisters
Elizabeth's and Lity Ann's undivided shares for ninety six dollars each.
The Carpenter land stayed in Green Carpenter's possession until he sold it to
his stepson, Edgar Allen, the twenty-sixth of
December 1916. Green Carpenter died in the early 1930's in Oklahoma City,
Oklahoma, where his daughter Lucille lived. Walter "Scott" and Lucille
(Carpenter) McMichael were childless, but raised Scott's nephew, Jack McMichael.
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DEBORAH A. CARPENTER
THIRD CHILD OF
JOHN AND MARY ANN CARPENTER
Deborah A. Carpenter and William Hickey were married the first of January 1837,
in Upson County, Georgia. In the 1850
Federal Census of Upson County, Georgia, Deborah's age was given as thirty-six.
This would give her year of birth as 1814. In
the 1860 Schley County, Georgia, Federal Census her age is listed as
forty-nine, making 1811 her year of birth. In 1870, her age
was sixty and setting her birth year as 1810. She was very likely born 1810,
only admitting to being older than her husband in
her later years.
John Carpenter died without a will in 1839. His estate had to be inventoried
and sold. William Hickey purchased the following
from John's estate: one lot of old iron, one dollar and eighteen and one fourth
cents; bellows, tongs and one piece of iron, two dollars.
William Hickey was first listed in the Upson County Tax Digest in 1845. He is
listed as one poll, owned no land and paid
sixty-eight cents in tax. There are no Tax Digests found for 1846 through 1849.
In 1850, the Tax Digest shows that William
Hickey owned no land and paid no tax. The 1850 Federal Census of Upson County,
Georgia, William Hickey was listed as
thirty-eight years old, his occupation listed as a blacksmith and his real
estate valued at six hundred dollars.
He owned no land in 1851 or 1852, paid no tax in 1851, but in 1852, Hickey paid
forty-six and eight tenths cents in tax. There
are no Tax Digests found for 1852 or 1853, so the last record we have of him in
Upson County was the 1852 tax record.
On the 1860 Federal Census of Schley County, Georgia, William Hickey's real
estate is worth two hundred dollars and his
personal estate listed as two hundred and fifty dollars. In 1870, according to
the Federal Census his real estate value has risen
to one thousand dollars and his personal value to seven hundred dollars.
William Hickey was listed as one of the first justices of peace in Schley
County, Georgia.
William Hickey wrote and signed his will on the tenth of August 1885. To his
wife, Elizabeth, during her lifetime, he bequeathed
his land and possessions, except his blacksmith and carpenter tools. These were
to be sold, and the proceeds of the sale and the money collected from notes
and accounts, were to be divided. Two thirds going to his wife, Elizabeth,
and one third to his daughter, Caroline E. Heam. Except twenty dollars
which he gave to his daughter Mary Ann C. Gillmore and her children. Mary Ann
Gillmore and her children were bequeathed all their indebtedness to his estate.
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GEORGE W. CARPENTER
FOURTH CHILD OF JOHN AND MARY ANN CARPENTER
George W. and Elizabeth "Louisa" (Wallace) Carpenter were married on the fifth
of January 1832, in Putnam County,
Georgia. George and his family probably moved to Upson County in 1833. He was
first listed on the Upson County tax records
in 1834 in Blounts' Militia district. George was listed with three polls, which
means there were three men between twenty-one
and sixty in his household. These two men were probably his brothers. The tax
records states that he owned no land and paid forty-seven cents in poll tax.
There is no Tax Digest found for 1835. In 1836, George Carpenter, still lived
in Blounts' Militia District, paid tax on one
hundred and one and one fourth acres, he was still listed with three polls and
paid fifty-three cents in tax. In 1837 and 1838
George was listed with three polls, paid tax on one hundred acres and paid
fifty-nine cents in tax each year. In 1839, he had two
polls, paid tax on one hundred acres and paid thirty-seven cents in tax.
George sold his land in Upson County to Sarah Raines on the twentieth of April
1839. George then moved to Talbot County,
Georgia, where he was listed on the 1840 Census, with his wife, three sons and
one daughter. Acting as agent in 1841 for his
mother, Mary, and his brother, John Carpenter, Jr., George paid taxes for them,
but he was not listed on the tax record.
On the first of May 1841, his brother, Hamilton Carpenter, and McDade Donnelly
signed, sealed and delivered a security bond
to Samuel Caraway, the Deputy Sheriff of Upson County. This bond of five
hundred and twenty-six dollars and ninety cents
was payable to William W. McNeil. The condition of the bond was that George W.
Carpenter should appear at the next
Superior Court in Upson county on the third Monday in August, and would not
depart from the county. To secure that
McDade Donnelly would not be held liable for any loss, Hamilton Carpenter put
up as security, one hundred acres and a negro
girl named Betty, about twenty-one years of age.
George Carpenter was not listed on the tax records in 1842, but in 1843 He was
listed with one poll for himself, and two polls
for two slaves that he owned. He paid tax on sixty-six acres, two dollars and
twenty-two cents. In 1844, he paid tax on
sixty-seven acres, eighty and one half cents. In 1845, he was shown as owning
no land and paid sixty-eight cents in tax.
There are no tax records available for 1846 through 1849. In, 1850 George paid
tax on two hundred and three acres, three
slaves, a total of three dollars and sixty-two cents in tax.
In the 1850 Upson County, Georgia, Census, taken on the twenty- sixth of
August, George was listed as thirty-eight years old
and a farmer with a real estate value of three thousand dollars. His wife,
Louisa, thirty-five, Jesse, eighteen and a student,
George, fifteen, Sarah A. thirteen, John, nine, Louisa, seven, Diadimina, five,
Missouri, four and Harriett, two. The 1850
census taker turned the census record sideways and wrote what must be "Native
Am Class." This is the only hint of the Indian
heritage in the family.
At the same time the census was taken, there was also a "slave census taken.
This 1850 slave census showed George Carpenter
owning four slaves: one black female, twenty-four years of age; one black
female, fifteen years of age; one mulatto male, six
years of age; and one mulatto female, four months old.
The last time George was listed on the Upson County tax records was in 1851.
He paid tax on two hundred and three acres, four slaves, had twenty dollars
at interest, he paid four dollars and sixty-two cents in tax.
George W. Carpenter and family were on the 1860 Federal Census of Steward
County, Georgia. His real estate value was listed
as two thousand dollars and his personal estate as seven thousand dollars.
Jesse, the oldest child, wasn't living at home,
George, Sarah, John, Diadimima, (Isabella) Missouri, (Mary Etta, Harriett) Mor
ganella were all listed. His children born since
1850 were Sophia, whose age was given as eleven, but most likely was ten,
Etheldor, eight, Victoria, six and Emma, four.
The 1860 slave census enumerated George Carpenter with six slaves: one black
male, forty-five years of age; one black female,thirty- seven years of age; one
one black female, twenty-five years of age; one mulatto male, seventeen
years of age; one black female, ten years of age; one black male, forty years
of age; one black female, one year of age; and one black male, one year of
age. George W. Carpenter was listed on the Muster Roll of Co. G, 46th Regiment,
Georgia Volunteer Infantry C. S. A., Stewart Co.,
GA. He was a private in Zollicoffer's Guards, recruited March 2, 1862.
B,His son, George W. Carpenter, Jr. was mustered in 4 March 1862 as a private in
Volunteer Infantry, Army of Tennessee, C S A, Schley County, Georgia, Schley
Rifles. He was transferred to Co. G, on the twentieth of March 1862. He was
captured at Atlanta, Georgia, on the twenty-second of July 1864.
John J. Carpenter, George's fourth child, was mustered in as a private on the
tenth of November 1861, into Company G, 31st Regiment, Georgia Volunteer
Infantry, Evans Brigade, Gordon's Division, Army of Northern Virginia, C S A,
Chattahochee and Stewart Counties, Georgia., He was appointed Corporal in 1861,
and 5th Sergeant on the second of November 1862. He was wounded
in 1863, and surrendered the ninth of April 1865 at Appomattox, Virginia.
George W. Carpenter, Sr. was listed on a tax list of firms and individuals
paying tax to operate business in Stewart County, GA, in 1868. He was on a
list of jurymen eligible for jury duty in 1869, Stewart Co., GA.
In 1870 George and Louisa are listed with children, Sarah, Vickie, and (Emma)
Anna. Their daughter, Diadimima Perkins, and granddaughter, Mary Perkins,
age seven, are also living with them. His real estate value is listed as one
thousand five hundred dollars and his personal estate as two thousand dollars.
John J. Carpenter, age twenty-nine, his wife , Alice E., age twenty-three
daughter, Emma, age two, and son John B., age six
months and shown to have been born in December, were listed in Sumter County,
Georgia on the 1870 Federal Census.
George and Louisa are listed with four grandchildren in 1880. William Rowe,
thirteen, Oscar Rowe, eleven, Lena Rowe, nine and Thomas Rowe, six.
MUCH MORE DATA IS ON THE WEB PAGE!!!
E-MAIL: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 From: "Darryl Cook"
Hello John.
I heard about your CD project, and all the Carpenter family info you have
gathered. If I could enlist your aid to help clarify a questionable
part of my family tree, I would be grateful. I am a descendent of Eleazer
(Eleazar) Ely Carpenter b. 1816 Putnam Co. GA. Most family research gets
cloudy at this point. We know his father was John Carpenter b. before 1790 in Virginia. Recently, at the
www.familysearch.com site, Eleazar is linked to the Carpenter's from
Jamica, NY and earlier Rebohoth, MA. Specifically, Joseph Carpenter b.1628
in Amesbury,Wiltshire, England. The lineage from Joseph to Eleazer is sketchy.
Joseph b. 1628, John b. 1658 CT?, John b.abt 1680 Jamaica, NY, John b.abt 1700
NY, John b. abt 1730 NY, John b. 1765 NY died VA, John b. 1786 VA, Eleazer b.
1816.
I was wondering if you could verify or disprove this linkage. If it
is valid then the line continues to before 1000 ad. If it is
someones wishful thinking, then I am basically stuck at Eleazer's
father. Thank you, Darryl Cook.
PS: My connection to Eleazer is as follows.
Eleazer Carpenter>>Alonzo C. Carpenter>>Cicero O. Carpenter>>Peggy L.
Carpenter>>Florene Worthley>> Darryl Cook
From: "Terry Carpenter"
To: "jrcrin001"
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [CARPENTER]
Hi John,
... "Bob Carpenter is #6060 in the Y-DNA study. He and I have been working on connecting his line for a couple of years. I'm certain it is connected to the Carpenters A'Plenty line -- he found a member of that line to join the Y-DNA project, should be seeing their sample by December. The Kiser connection is very significant. I'll leave it to Bob to explain the story when he's ready."
TLC notes that John See Notes Carpenter-5351 is not related to Thomas "Jack" Carpenter-5351. This line is the old Mattie Belle Carpenter Ross's book on her family "My Ancestry" which was put together by her and a bogus researcher in GA, and is full of errors. Possible "Carpenters A'Plenty" line - German/Swiss Carpenters.
Mary
Possible second marriage of John Carpenter to this Mary. See notes below:
From: DCarter669
>Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 21:03:53 EDT
>Hi, I am researching my Carpenter roots and have come across this name. John
>Carpenter was born Abt1775 in Virginia. He moved to Georgia around 1804 and
>entered the GA Land Lottery in 1805. He later married in 1805 to a woman
>named Mary. John and Mary Carpenter had eleven children that I know of but nine
of which I have names for:
>1.) Hamilton Carpenter
>b. ca1808 in GA
>d. ater 1870, probably in Upson Co., GA
>m. 3Mar1845 in Harris Co., GA
>Berthina E. Norris
>b. ca1825, GA
>d. after 1880
>2.) Deborah A. Carpenter
>b. ca1810, GA
>d. after 1870, Probably Schley Co., GA
>m. 1Jan1837, Upson Co., GA
>William Hickey
>b. ca 1812, GA
>d. after 1870, Probably in Schley Co., GA
>He was a blacksmith
>3.) Georgw W. Carpenter
>b. ca 1811, GA
>d. after 1880, Steward Co., GA
>m. 5Jan1832, Putnam Co., GA
>Elizabeth Louisa Wallace
>b. ca 1814, GA
>d. after 1880, probably Steward Co., GA
>4.) Nancy Carpenter
>b. ca 1812-1813, GA
>d. 30 Jun 1855, State Mental Hospital, Milledgeville, GA
>Unmarried
>5.) Bical Carpenter
>b. ca 1814, GA
>d. ?
>m. 14Jan1838, Upson Co., GA
>Pleasant Spears
>b. ca 1815
>d. ?
>6.) John Carpenter, Jr.
>b. 1815, GA
>d. ?
>m. 23Aug1846, Upson Co., Ga
>Sarah Cummings
>b. ca 1825-1831
>d. ?
>I believe she was the daughter of Stephen Cummings.
>7.) Eleazar "Eli" Carpenter
>b. 1816, GA
>d. 30 Oct 1864, Baltimore, MD-a paroled prisoner of war in a union hospital.
>m. 10May1846, Troup Co., GA
>Annzena "Angine" Norris
>b. Mar1831, GA
>d. after 1900, probably in Oklahoma
>She was the daughter of Samuel and Elizabeth (Stone) Norris
>8.) James Carpenter
>b. 1817, GA
>d. before 1850
>m. 10Jan1848, Troup Co., GA
>Irene Norris
>b. ca1827, GA
>d. ?
>Also a daughter of Samuel and Elizabeth Norris
>9.) Sarah H. Carpenter
>b. 1825, GA
>d. ?
>Not married that I know of.
>I have some pretty good info on the families after John Carpenter, but have
>run into a brick wall on his ancestors. If anyone has information pertaining
>to this family of Carpenters, please E-mail me at:
>dcarter669@aol.com
>Thank You,
>Daniel Carter.
Amanda Carpenter
NAME: Probably McGUIRE - based on children name sequence or mother's maiden
name? In record given her last name was Carpenter however.
16296.
John Thomas Carpenter
This John Thomas may have had a child named "John T. Carpenter" born abt 1823
NC and died 1895. He may also have had a child named "J.C. Carpenter."
UPDATE 12/20/2003 - Y-DNA Tests prove John T. Carpenter was of the German Carpenter line.
SEE: "Carpenters A'Plenty" by Robert C. Carpenter.
John Carpenter, surname anglicized from Hans Zimmermann, b c1702 Switzerland, d 1794 NC:
#C. Christian 'CZ' Carpenter, b c1721, d 1800:
#C(10). Frederick Carpenter, b c1772, d 1829:
#C(10)3. Joseph Carpenter, b c1795, d aft1850:
#C(10)31. John T. Carpenter, b c1820-5, d 1895:
J.C. Carpenter
>US Federal Census records show his birth place as:
>1860, Census records dated 21 July 1860, M653, Roll42, Page 46,
>Dwelling
># 269, Family # 265, show him and his wife Frances, and young son,
>John Jeff in Cache Twp., Greene Co., Arkansas, PO=Wolcott. It shows his
>age as 35, Occupation as farmer, and Birthplace as North Carolina. His
>wife's birthplace is recorded as South Carolina (which is correct I
>have traced her ancestors back two generations, in the Spartanburg, S.C.
>area. It aslo records John Jeff's birth place as Georgia. This would
>agree, i.e., Chattooga County, Georgia Marriage Records, Book 1, Page
>280, has John T. Carpenter being married to Frances E. Richardson on
>18 January 1855.
>1870, Census records dated 15 August 1870, M593, Roll 180, Page # 310,
>Dwelling # 503, Family # 499,Subdivision 145, Walker County, Georgia,
>PO at Rock Springs. It shows his age as 47, occupation as Huckster, and
>birthplace as North Carolina. At this point he and Frances have
>additional children: John Jeff 13, Mary s. age 6, and George W. age 2.
>Note all children have birthplace as Georgia.
>1880, Census records dated 13 June 1880, T9, Roll 139, Page 18,
>Dwelling # 155, Family # 157 Haywood District # 962, Chattooga County
Georgia.
>At this point, John Jeff is no longer in the household, Mary S. is now
>16, George W. is 13, and Wm J. is 7, (Note: believe the Wm. J. is in
>error, later information shows this individual is Joseph C.), James R.
>age 6, and last my grandfather, Noah Z. Carpenter age is 3.
>I have been unable to find an obituary or death certificate for John
>T. Carpenter, i.e., records were not kept in Georgia at that time, I am
>told. I do have two newspaper articles:
>
>1) Walker County Messenger, Vol XVIII No. 42, LaFayette, Georgia,
>Thursday October 24, 1895 "John Carpenter, 70 years or more... died 14
>October 1895." His headstone at the Old Bethlehem Baptist Church
>Cemetery in Chattooga Co., Georgia also reads 1895.
>
>2) Chattooga News, October 30, 1895 "John Carpenter, who lived near
>Subligna and who was hurt by a runaway horse over two weeks ago, died
>the second day after receiving his injuries".
>
>Basically, I have been able to document his life from 18 January 1855
>to his death on 14 October 1895, and also document all his children
>except for John Jeff and Mary S., John Jeff is supposed to have died at an
>early age and Mary S. married William J. Stowe. I have identified
>William J. Stowe's parents in the same cemetery as the one containing
>John T. Carpenter, and have written a lady in Phoenix regarding this
>line. Have received no answer, it has been about 4 weeks.
>
>As mentioned above, there is one oddity, i.e., the Wm. J. Carpenter
>mentioned in the 1880 census is never mentioned anywhere again.
>However, there is a Joseph C. or J.C. Carpenter mentioned in an
>Indenture involving my Grandfather and my Granduncle James R. In
>addition, I have information about the death of a Joseph C. Carpenter
>on 28 Jan 1896 from his estate records recorded in Chattooga Co.,
>Georgia.
>A J.C. Carpenter is buried in the same cemetery as John T. Carpenter,
>i.e., the graves are very close, like a family plot.
>
>Hope that I have not bored you with this information. All I can go on
>at this point is that John T. Carpenter was born in N.C.
Bobby L. Carpenter. carpe51@ibm.net 22 July 1998 E-Mail.
E-MAIL:
From: "Bob & Judy Carpenter"
To: "John R. Carpenter"
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: Family Tree DNA
> Hi John
> The kit number was 6060. I received confirmation on their receipt of my kit
> on 25 Nov.
> A brief Pedigree would be starting with myself: Bobby L. Carpenter, b: 16
> May 1938, my father - George Benson Carpenter, b: 21 Sep. 1909, my
> grandfather - Noah Zumon Peter Carpenter, b: 12 May 1877 and my
> Great-Grandfather John T. Carpenter, b: 1823 in N.C. and he died in
> Chattooga County, Georgia on 14 October 1895. My father and grandfather
> were both born in Chattooga Co., GA. The 1880 Census records that JTC's
> father was born in NC and his mother in PA. I don't know the names of JTC's
> parents or anything on him prior to his marriage to Frances E. Richardson in
> Chattooga County, GA on 18 January 1855. Census records show JTC as being
> born in 1820-1823-1825, depending upon which census you read. However, his
> headstone reads 1823. So, I have adopted the 1823 date and will retain that
> one until I find something different.
> Thanks Bob Carpenter
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John R. Carpenter"
> To: "Bob & Judy Carpenter"
> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 9:02 AM
> Subject: Re: Family Tree DNA
> > Hi Bob!
> > Great to hear from you!
> > Let me know the kit number.
> > Can you remind me which John T. Carpenter? Can you give me a brief pedigree?
> > Thanks!
> > John R. Carpenter
> > La Mesa, CA
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob & Judy Carpenter"
> > To: "John R. Carpenter"
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 12:27 PM
> > Subject: Family Tree DNA
> > > Hi John
> > > Received my DNA kit on 20 Nov and returned it on 21 Nov. I'm awaiting
> > the results. Who knows, they provide just what I've been looking for.> > > Thanks Bob Carpenter Grandson of John T. Carpenter
Mary Lee
E-MAIL: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 From: Wettduk@aol.com
John: Good afternoon.
Please find attached a copy of my Carpenter family data. My purpose in
sending this to you is my hope in finding history on a Thomas Carpenter
m. Mary Lee in I believe Nash Co. NC in the mid to late 1700s. I have
one son John Carpenter d. before 1838 in Greene Co., AL.
I hope there may be info in my gedcom file that can be of use to you.
Also, I am interested in what I need to do to obtain a copy of the CD on
it's release. Best regards, Mike Coop. wettduk@aol.com
mikec@humphrescpa.com
Mike adds spouse Mary Lee and Elizabeth Upchurch to this line.
E-MAIL: Thomas Carpenter & Mary Lee.
Thu, 9 Nov 2000 From: Travis Carpenter JoTravCarp@aol.com
My family (Those researching ancestors of James Ludwell Carpenter) have some
disagreement with some of the postings we have found on the Internet
concerning Thomas Carpenter who married Mary Lee. Information on the
Internet shows that Thomas had a son named John Carpenter who went to
Georgia. Our information shows that Thomas had a son named John who moved to
Green Co., AL. John owned land on Moccasin Creek in Franklin Co., NC, the
same land owned by Thomas Carpenter. John had a son named James Ludwell who
had extensive landholdings in NC. He is listed in the will of John Carpenter
of Greenie Co., Ala. We have a lot of documentation that supports these
assumptions and feel quite confident about our line of descent from Thomas
Carpenter.
Also on the Internet we have found that Thomas' father was a Solomon
Carpenter. We suspect this is not true for reasons that I do not fully
understand but I will try to get our "expert" involved and maybe he can shed
some light on this subject. We believe that there were 2 Thomas' in this
area during the same time. We show a Solomon Carpenter in VA who had a son
named Thomas who served in the Revolutionary War, and died in VA. There is
another Thomas Carpenter of Nash/Edgecombe Co. NC who served in the
Revolutionary War and died in Nash Co. This is the Thomas who married Mary
Lee. The Lee's, Burwell's, and Ludwell's were all Tidewater families. We
think there was a close relationship to these families as these names appear
as first or middle names of our family members. We believe that Thomas
Carpenter was not the Thomas from Botetout Co., but rather from the
Tidewater.
If anyone has information to add to this and help clear the waters it would
be greatly appreciated.
Travis Carpenter
JoTravCarp@aol.com
8235.
James Carpenter
Either James or Benjamin had children who went to KY then IN. Jane born about
1805, Peter born about 1808.