Group 3 - Descendants of William Carpenter-98-
Father of William Carpenter-584 (b. abt 1605)
Notes
8273.
Joseph Carpenter
1. Joseph (17) Carpenter was born about 1797 and married, possibly, Acenith
Romine in Lewis County 22 March 1820. He and his brother, Samuel, left what is
now the Harper District of Roane County in the 1830's and were lost track of,
but he married second, Mahala A. Harper 23 July 1838 in Washington County,
Ohio and was residing there in 1850. Some Carpenter researchers say
that this Joseph was a son of Jeremiah and that he died in a logging
accident near Addison (Webster Springs) shortly after his marriage to
Acenith Romine; but this is, obviously, incorrect.
CHILDREN: Minerva may be a child of his first marriage. One record indicates he
had some 13 children but only have been identified so far.
16487.
Minerva A. Carpenter
Minerva A. (18) Carpenter was born circa 1834.
Born either in VA or OH. Born of the first wife?
16488.
Alfred F. Carpenter
Alfred F. (18) Carpenter was born around 1838.
16489.
Elzra J. H. Carpenter
Ezra J.H. (18) Carpenter was born about 1839.
16490.
Mary D. Carpenter
Mary D. (18) Carpenter was born circa 1845.
16491.
Spencer Carpenter
Spencer (18) Carpenter was born around 1845.
16492.
Diantha Carpenter
Diantha (18) Carpenter was born about 1846.
16493.
Isaac Carpenter
Isaac (18) Carpenter was born circa 1848.
16494.
Frances A. Carpenter
Frances A. (18) Carpenter was born around 1850.
8274.
Stephen Carpenter
Stephen (17) Carpenter was born circa 1812, married Susanna Westfall 19
November 1829 in Lewis County and died after 1870 in Roane County. Susanna was
born circa 1815 and was a daughter of Andrew H. and Rachel (Raines).
SEE:
http://www.wvpioneers.com/getperson.php?personID=I3533&tree=WVP
1840 Jackson, VA 2m 5-10 1m 30-40 2f 0-5 1f 20-30 1850 Jackson, VA, pg 12 (pages out of order in this census) # 86-89 Carpenter Stephen 44 M Farmer Va Carpenter Susanna 39 F Va Carpenter Andrew 19 F Farmer Va Carpenter John 17 M Farmer Va Carpenter Phoeba 14 F Va Carpenter Lucretia 12 F Va Carpenter Sarah 9 F Va Carpenter George 5 M Va 1860 Roane, VA Stephen Carperter 54 Susanna 49 Lucretia 22 Sarah 18 George 15 1870 Harper Dist, Roane Co, VA Carpenter, S 59 Sarah 27 1880 Susan was l/w son John
16497.
Phoebe Carpenter
Phoebe (18) Carpenter was born around 1836 and married John White 3 September
1857 in Roane County (He was born 1835, son of Isaac and Mary White).
16498.
Lucretia J. Carpenter
Lucretia J. (18) Carpenter was born circa 1838 and married Samuel B. Hinzman
17 January 1861. He was born 1839, son of John and Margaret Hinzman.
16499.
Sarah Carpenter
Sarah (18) Carpenter was born around 1841 in Lewis County and married 21 March
1878 in Roane County to Marshall Smarr, born about 1840 in Lewis County.
16500.
George Carpenter
George (18) Carpenter was born circa 1845.
8275.
Susan Carpenter
Susan (17) Carpenter was born about 1814, married David Reed Jr. in Lewis
County on 29 June 1837 and died after 1860 in Roane County. David was a son of
David and Nancy (Romine) Reed Sr. and a veteran of the War of 1812.
16501.
Solomon Reed
Solomon Reed was born about 1836, married Jerushia Kelly (daughter of
Archibald Kelley) and was a Union soldier in the Civil War.
16502.
Marcellus Reed
Marcellus Reed was born circa 1838, fought as a Confederate soldier in the
Civil War and was killed in the Battle of Cloyd's Mountain.
DEATH: K.I.A. = Killed in Action during the Civil War.
16503.
Calvin B. Reed
Calvin B. Reed was born around 1840, married Margaret Randolph (daughter of
Riley) and was a noted gunsmith.
16504.
Nancy Reed
Nancy Reed was born circa 1842 and married Wesley Randolph.
16505.
John B. Reed
John B. Reed was born about 1844. He was a Confederate veteran of the Civil
War and was killed in a logging accident sometime after his discharge.
16506.
Martha J. Reed
Martha J. Reed was born circa 1846 and married Madison Hinzman.
16507.
David M. Reed
David M. Reed was born around 1849 and married Elizabeth Westfall a daughter
of Abram and Mollie (Harper) Westfall.
16508.
Jonathan R. Reed
Jonathan R. Reed was born about 1850 and married Mary Burdette, a daughter of
George St. Clair Burdette.
16509.
Elizabeth S. Reed
Elizabeth S. Reed was born around 1863 and married a Parsons.
8276.
Solomon Carpenter
Solomon (17) Carpenter was born around 1817, married Carrie A. Oldacre 1
December 1836 in Lewis County and died after 1880. Carrie was born around 1829
and was a daughter of Abraham Oldacre.
16510.
Sophia Carpenter
Sophia (18) Carpenter was born circa 1838 and married A.M. Queen
16511.
Sarah Carpenter
Sarah (18) Carpenter was born about 1841, married 1st Elias B. Queen and 2nd
Lafayette "Lafe" Starcher, son of Stephen and Charity (Hinzman) Starcher.
16512.
Daniel Carpenter
Daniel Johnson (18) Carpenter was born 28 February 1843, died 22 April 1934
and married Minerva Hinzman, daughter of John, 29 October 1868.
16513.
Mary Carpenter
Mary E. (18) Carpenter was born circa 1846.
16514.
Anthony Carpenter
Anthony (18) Carpenter was born about 1848.
16515.
Lucretia Columbia Carpenter
Lucretia Columbia (18) Carpenter was born around 1851 and married 28 May 1870
Perry Starcher, son of Stephen and Charity (Hinzman) Starcher.
8278.
Nathaniel Carpenter
FSFT# LV6G-TFN
Nancy White
FSFT# KHYT-6PS
8279.
Jesse "Ike" Tanner
BOOK: See page 52 (for notes) of the Mowrey 1997 book. See book information
below:
UPDATE OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE NEW ENGLAND CARPENTER FAMILY OF ENGLISH
ORIGIN - THE VIRGINIA / WEST VIRGINIA BRANCH - SOME DESCENDANTS OF JOSEPH
CARPENTER - PIONEER OF THE JACKSON RIVER - MOWREY"S VERSION.
BY TERRY LEE CARPENTER AND PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
PRO BONO PUBLICO - PRIVATELY PUBLISHED, DOVER, OHIO, 1997.
BY PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
PAGE 52: 2. Jesse "Ike" Tanner was born circa 1795, married 1st Mary "Polly"
Carpenter 14 August 1820 in Mason County (Mary was a daughter of Jesse and
Sarah Jane Riffe Carpenter) and 2nd Judith Carpenter (Judy was a daughter of
Jeremiah and Elizabeth Hamm Carpenter) circa 1837. All of Jesse and Judith
Carpenter Tanner's children 1837-1846 listed their parents as Jesse and Judy
Tanner when they married. Judy died 10 October 1859 and is reportedly buried
in the "Old Tanner Cemetery" on Craig Ridge. Mary Carpenter Tanner died in
childbirth with her last child, William, and is supposedly buried in the same
graveyard. Jesse Tanner married 3rd Lucinda Raines 11 February 1860 and died 26
March 1885. Lucinda was a daughter of Uriah and Massie (Hughes) Gandee, a widow
of Abraham Raines and a first cousin, but once removed, to Jesse Tanner through
the Hughes family. They are buried in the Memorial Gardens Cemetery at Spencer,
West Virginia. Jesse and Lucinda's (Page 52) children, 1862-1872, all listed
their parents as Jesse and Lucy or Lucinda when they married. Parental listings
offer substantial proof of whom Jesse Tanner married and when he married them.
NOTE: Jesse "Buffalo" TANNER Sr. AND Jesse "Ike" TANNER may or may not be the
same person. I think maybe, but there is enough debate to allow two until
further details come forth.
Judith "Polly" Carpenter
NAME: Judith was known as Polly, but her name is often spellt as Judy or Judah
instead of Judith. See page 48 of the Mowrey 1997 book:
Per page 48: 11. Judith (17) Carpenter was born around 1809, married Jesse
"Ike" Tanner circa 1837 and died 10 October 1859 (Jesse reported her death in
Roane County. Other records have her death in Braxton county, VA.
She was fifty years old and the daughter of J. and Elizabeth (Hamm) Carpenter
of Braxton (page 49) County. She and Jesse's first wife, Mary Carpenter
(daughter of Jesse and Sarah Jane Riffe Carpenter) are probably buried in the
old Tanner Cemetery on Craig Ridge.
MARRIAGES need clarification. Children conflicts. Could there be 2 Mary
Carpenters?
DEATH:
See line 41 Tanner, Judah death Oct 10, 1839 Roane County VA. Died of consumption age 50.
On the next page it lists her parents J & Elizabeth Carpenter of Braxton County, VA.
Jesse Tanner is the spouse and reporter of death. He is listed as the husband of the deceased. See image at:
http://images.wvculture.org/565847/00035.jpg
Lucinda "Gandee" Raines
LUCINDA WAS ABT 31 YRS YOUNGER TAN JESSE. LIVED IN ROANE CO WVA
IN CENSUS: 1860,70,80. THEIR LOG HOUSE BUILT BY JESSE WAS LOCATED ON
THEIR LARGE FARM WHICH IS NOW KNOWN AS THE ALVOID SECTION OF SPENCER,
WVA. THE CABIN SAT ON A KNOLL ACROSS FROM THE RAYMOND CARPER HOUSE NOW
STANDS.
SPOUSE: Jesse "Ike" or Jesse "Buffalo" Tanner? The same person?
It is interesting to note that in the Mowrey book concerning this marriage,
there are no birth dates given for any of the children. This is in variance
with all other families which at least show a year of birth.
16527.
Minter Tanner
Minter Jackson Tanner was born 24 August 1862, died 3 June 1951 and married 1
March 1887 Angeline Wine (daughter of Richard W. and Nancy (Miller) Wine) and
2nd 3 April 1912 Ada Mae Perrill.
Confusion agin occurs in this marriage. The Mowrey book shows this marriage
with 5 children, as entered in this record, but, the first birth, Richard
DeWitt is in 1914. It is unlikely that Minter and Angeline were married in
1887, and had no children untill 1914! However, Minter may have gone away for
that length of time, or whatever?
Angeline Wine
Angeline Wine was born around 1865 and married Minter J. Tanner 1 March 1887.
Minter was a son of Jesse and Lucinda (Gandee) Raines Tanner.
16528.
Rosa Tanner
Rosa Tanner was born in July of 1866 and married Albert "Abe" Goff circa
1883, 2nd 3 March 1892 Augustus Droddy and 3rd Marshall e.Greathouse.
16529.
Zelpha Mary Tanner
Zilpha Molly Tanner was born circa 1868, died 1937 and married Joe Smith.
In 1870 census she is called Zelpha age 2 yrs. b. Va.
In 1880 census she is called Mary age 12 b. Va.
8280.
Mathias Carpenter
Mathias' father is believed to be Samuel Carpenter (1742) son of Joseph. Not proven.
Others believe that his father was Mathias Zimmerman. Not proven.
Another believes that his father was John Zimmerman or John Mathis Zimmerman. Not proven.
I have added what I have found in census and FaG recently below. This seems to support more of the later. JRC
CENSUS: 1790 US Census
Name: Matthias Carpenter
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1790
Event Place: Surry, North Carolina, United States
Note:
Page: 520
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: M637
Affiliate Film Number: 7
GS Film Number: 0568147
Digital Folder Number: 005157139
Image Number: 00302
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1790", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHK1-CXK : accessed 5 January 2016), Matthias Carpenter, 1790.
CENSUS: 1800 US Census
Name: Mathias Carpenter
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1800
Event Place: Morgan, Ashe, North Carolina, United States
Note:
Page: 75
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: M32
Affiliate Film Number: 29
GS Film Number: 337905
Digital Folder Number: 004956030
Image Number: 00062
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1800", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHR8-FL6 : accessed 5 January 2016), Mathias Carpenter, 1800.
CENSUS: 1810 US Census
CENSUS: 1820 US Census
CENSUS: 1830 US Census
Name: Mathias Carpenter
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1830
Event Place: Ashe, North Carolina, United States
Note:
Page: 39
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: M19
Affiliate Film Number: 118
GS Film Number: 0018084
Digital Folder Number: 005155940
Image Number: 00080
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1830," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH5M-629 : accessed 5 January 2016), Mathias Carpenter, Ashe, North Carolina, United States; citing 39, NARA microfilm publication M19, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 118; FHL microfilm 18,084.
GRAVE: images - likely the same person as census records above. AND assumes the data entered is correct.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=58804158
Mathias Carpenter
Birth: Dec. 2, 1752
Pennsylvania, USA
Death: Oct. 17, 1835
Ashe County
North Carolina, USA
AKA Mathias Zimmerman
Family links:
Spouse:
Elizabeth Miller Carpenter (1755 - 1835)
Children:
Frances Carpenter Weatherman Davis (1771 - 1842)*
Jacob Carpenter (1778 - 1857)*
Margaret Carpenter Miller (1784 - 1865)*
David Carpenter (1793 - 1890)*
*Calculated relationship
Burial:
Welchs Cemetery
Warrensville
Ashe County
North Carolina, USA
Created by: Jerry
Record added: Sep 17, 2010
Find A Grave Memorial# 58804158
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http://www.martygrant.com/genealogy/carpenter/carpenter-mathias.htm
Mathias Carpenter (1750/55) and Elizabeth Miller of Surry, Wilkes and Ashe Co, NC
martygrant.com
I (Marty Grant) am a 6th Great Grandson of Mathias Carpenter and Elizabeth Miller.
Special thanks to Danny Miller, Paul Phipps, Evelyn Rice Tharp and many others for data shared on this family.
Mathias Zimmerman was born on December 2nd, in some year between 1750 and 1755. The years are based on his census records, and the date based on an old, now totally eroded tombstone. In the Miller (or Welch) Cemetery in Ashe Co, NC, there are several old tombstones, including one for "M. Carpenter" that listed his birth date and death date as Dec 2 1777 - Oct 17 1835. We know the death date is correct, so presumably the birth date was correct, at least the month and day. The "1777" was either a mistake by the carver, or by the person transcribing it. I visited this cemetery a few years ago, and found numerous old stones, that once had writing on them, but were now totally illegible. I did not find one with Mathias' name on it, at least not where I could read it. I suppose that when they were still legible, someone wrote down the dates. However, either they read the birth year wrong, or it was wrong on the stone. Many have incorrectly assumed that this stone was for a Mathias "Jr" since the birth year was so much more recent than our Mathias. However, there is no basis for such an assumption, and no records indicating there was a Mathias "Jr". The tombstone information was from the "Wade Eller Collection".
My way of designating Mathias' birth date is as 2 Dec 1750/1755. He was most likely born in Pennsylvania, though in what county, I could not even guess. There were literally hundreds, if not thousands of Germanic immigrants to PA in the 1700's named "Zimmerman" or some variation thereof (i.e. Simmerman, Shimmerman, etc), and unfortunately, "Mathias" was a common name among them. If I had to guess, I would say he was born in either Lancaster, Bucks, Berks or York County, PA. I could be wrong about all four of those though. It is also possible that he was born in some other state, or perhaps he himself was an immigrant to America.
In many years of research, neither I, nor my many fellow Carpenter researchers, have been able to identify Mathias' parents, nor even find a strong suspect. For some reason, several researchers show Mathias as a son of another Mathias, but I have not found the slightest proof of this.
...
Much more on the web page!
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E-MAIL:
From: "corbal" .
To: "John Carpenter" .
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000.
Subject: Information written by David Riley Carpenter.
John, Here is a copy of some information written by my great
grandfather. It is pretty interesting, but I doubt Mathias is the son
of Samuel since Mathias came from Holland according to this. Very truly
yours, Joann Stewart.
HISTORICAL SKETCHES OF
THE CARPENTER AND BURTON FAMILIES
BY DAVID RILEY CARPENTER, NEWTON, KANSAS
MATHIAS CARPENTER AND TWO BROTHERS COME FROM HOLLAND AND SETTLED IN NORTH
CAROLINA ABOUT THE LATTER PART OF THE 18TH CENTURY. TWO OF THESE BROTHERS
WENT SOUTH AND MATHIAS REMAINED IN NORTH CAROLIA AND BECAME A RICH
SLAVEHOLDER.
MATHIAS HAD THREE CHILDREN, ONE GIRL AND TWO BOYS. ONE BOY WAS ACCIDENTALLY
KILLED WHEN GROWN, THE OTHER, DAVID CARPENTER IS THE GRANDFATHER OF THIS THE
OLDEST GENERATION OF CARPENTERS LIVING, AND JACOB CARPENTER HIS SECOND CHILD
AND FIRST SON IS THE FATHER OF THIS CARPENTER FAMILY.
MATHIAS CARPENTER, THE SLAVEHOLDER, DIVIDED HIS SLAVES BETWEEN HIS TWO
CHILDREN, AND DAVID CARPENTER WAS A SLAVEHOLDER JUST LONG ENOUGH TO WRITE
EACH ONE'S DISCHARGE OR RELEASE FROM SLAVERY, AND THAT RELEASE WAS
PERMANENT.
THIS DAVID CARPENTER, AND HIS WIFE CATHARINE MAY REARED TEN CHILDREN, FIVE
BOYS AND FIVE GIRLS. ABOUT THE YEAR 1833, THE YEAR THAT ALL THE STARS
FELL, HE AND HIS FAMILY MOVED TO MONROE COUNTY, INDIANA AND SETTLED NEAR THE
LITTLE VILLAGE OF STAMFORD. HERE HE LIVED TILL ABOUT THE YEAR 1870. WHEN
HE WENT TO MISSOURI FOR A FEW YEARS, HE HAD ACCUMULATED CONSIDERABLE
PROPERTY, AND WAS ABLE TO GIVE EACH OF HIS CHILDREN FORTY ACRES OF LAND.
MEANTIME HE HAD VOLUNTERED AS A SOLDIER IN THE MEXICO WAR.(PER: HELEN
JONES ADAMS, "I REMEMBER SEEING THE RIFLE DAVID CARRIED HANGING OVER THE
DOORWAY OF GRANDAD'S PLACE IN NEW MEXICO. WHAT HAPPENED TO IT, I DO NOT
KNOW". MEXICAN WAR 1846-1847- GENERAL SCOTT TOOK MEXICO CITY SEPTEMBER 14,
1847. TREATY OF GUADALUPE HIDALGO FEBRUARY 2, 1848.) BUT ON HIS WAY ACROSS
THE GULF OF MEXICO TO THE WAR ZONE, HIS COMMAND WAS MET BY THE RETURNING,
CONQUERING ARMY FROM MEXICO. HE WAS A MEMBER OF THE METHODIST CHURCH AND AT ONE TIME A METHODIST CLASS LEADER.
CATHARINE (MAY) CARPENTER, LIVED TO BE ABOUT 70 YEARS OLD AND DAVID
CARPENTER LIVED TO BE 97 YEARS OLD. THEY WERE BOTH BURIED IN THE GREEN
COUNTY METHODIST CHURCH YARD, OR GRAVEYARD, ONE MILE WEST OF THE VILLAGE OF
STAMFORD, INDIANA. SEVERAL OTHERS OF THE CARPENTER FAMILY WERE BURIED
THERE.
JACOB CARPENTER, THE FATHER OF THIS OLDEST GENERATION OF CARPENTERS, WAS
BORN IN NORTH CAROLINA, MAY 16.1818, AND HIS WIFE, ELIZABETH BURTON WAS BORN
IN NORTH CAROLINA DECEMBER 12, 1824. THEY WERE UNITED IN MARRIAGE MARCH 16,
1843, NEAR ORLEANS, INDIANA. AFTER LIVING HERE AND THERE FOR A TIME THEY
SETTLED ON A LITTLE FARM IN MONRO COUNTY, NEAR THE VILLAGE OF STAMFORD,
INDIANA IN THE YEAR 1855. HERE THEY REARED THE LAST HALF OF THEIR FAMILY OF
14, 9 GIRLS AND FIVE BOYS.
IN THE SPRING OF 1871 THEY MOVED TO HARRISON COUNTY, MISSOURI, AND IN 1874
THEY MOVED TO ADAMS COUNTY, NEBRASKA AND SETTLED NEAR HASTINGS. HERE THEY
CELEBRATED THEIR GOLDEN WEDDING, MARCH 16, 1893 WHEN TWELVE CHILDREN SAT
DOWN WITH THEM AT THE DINNER TABLE. IN 1894 THEY SETTLED ON A LITTLE FARM
ONE MILE EAST OF THE TOWN OF FRANKLIN. JACOB DIED MARCH 14, 1913, AT THE
AGE OF 97 (95), LACKING TWO MONTHS. ELIZABETH DIED APRIL 6, 1905. THEIR
REMAINS LIE SIDE BY SIDE IN THE GREENWOOD CEMETARY NEAR FRANKLIN, NEBRASKA.
HERE ABOUT 15 RELATIVES OF THE CARPENTERS AND BURTONS ARE BURIED. TODAY BUT
FIVE OF THEIR CHLIDREN ARE LIVING; SARAH C. BURTON, ON A FARM NEAR
FRANKLIN, NEBRASKA, DAVID RILEY CARPENTER, IN NEWTON KANSAS, MRS MAGGIE E
JONES, IN LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA, MRS. AMANDA P. HARRISON IN GEERING,
NEBRASKA, AND JAMES T. CARPENTER ON A FARM NEAR POWELL, WYOMING. (WE DON'T
KNOW WHEN THIS WAS WRITTEN, PROBABLY BETWEEN 1939 AND 1940 SOMETHING. David
Riley Carpenter died April 21, 1944.)
RECAPITULATION:
AT THE TIME OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION A BAND OF MURDEROUS TORIES WENT
THROUGH THE COUNTRY KILLING ALL WHO WERE IN SYMPATHY WITH THE COLONIES, AND
WHEN THEY CAME TO THE HOME OF MATHIAS CARPENTER, HE WAS SICK IN BED, SO TWO
OF THEIR Number TOOK HIM OUT OF THE BED AND STRETCHED HIM ACROSS THE OPEN
DOOR, WHILE A THRID STOOD OUTSIDE AND SHOT AT HIM. AT THE CRACK OF THE GUN
THE TWO MEN LET THEIR VICTIM FALL TO THE FLOOR, SUPPOSING HIM TO BE DEAD.
HE WAS NOT STRUCK BY THE BALL AND WHEN THE TORIES WERE GONE HE GOT BACK IN
BED. WHEN THE TORIES HAD MADE THEIR ROUNDS THEY RETURNED BY WAY OF THIS
HOUSE AND STOPPED AND CONSULTED WHETHER THEY SHOUD GO IN AND SEE IF THEIR
VICTIM WAS STILL ALIVE, BUT FINALLY DECIDED HE WAS DEAD ENOUGH, SO THEY WENT
ON.
JOHN PLEASANT BURTON WAS A REVOLUTION SOLDIER, A VOLUNTEER FROM VIRGINIA.
HE DIED IN INDIANA, AND WAS BURIED IN THE OLD BURTON GRAVEYARD, TWO OR THREE
MILES WEST OF MITCHEL, INDIANA. AS IT WAS THE CUSTOM FOR SOME OF THE
REVOLUTIONARY SOLDIERS TO BE BURIED STANDING, HE REQUESTED TO BE BURIED THE
SAME WAY, WHICH REQUEST WAS GRANTED.
DAVID RILEY CARPENTER MARRIED EMMALINE AGUSTA PEAK AND HAD 12 CHILDREN.
, ONE OF WHICH WAS ANNA BEATRICE CARPENTER.
ANNA MARRIED SOLOMON LEROY JONES AND HAD FOUR CHILDREN. LE ROY, DON ,
CLELAND(PEE WEE) AND HELEN JONES.
ANNA'S SECOND MARRIAGE WAS TO BILL SANDLIN AND THEIR ADOPTED DAUGHTER RUTH
IS THE DAUGHTER OF ANNA'S ELDEST SON LE ROY AND FIRST WIFE DAISY BAKER.
LE ROY'S SECOND WIFE MARIAN DOOLEY
CHILDREN WILLIAM LEROY AND MARGIE.
DON JONES MARRIED ANN WHITE.
ADOPETE SON JIMMY LEE JONES.
SECOND WIFE JOYCE WILLIAMS.
SON DONALD STAR JONES.
CLELAND (PEE WEE JONES).
MARRIED PAULINE ADAMS.
CHILDREN DON LE ROY AND TERRI LYNN.
HELEN MARRIED JOSEPH S. ADAMS (no relation to Pauline).
CHILDREN JOSEPH WILLIAM AND JOANN.
Elizabeth "Eliza" Miller
GRAVE:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=58804237
Elizabeth Miller Carpenter
Birth: Jan. 1, 1755
Bucks County
Pennsylvania, USA
Death: 1835
Ashe County
North Carolina, USA
AKA Elizabeth Mueller
Family links:
Spouse:
Mathias Carpenter (1752 - 1835)*
Children:
Frances Carpenter Weatherman Davis (1771 - 1842)*
Jacob Carpenter (1778 - 1857)*
Margaret Carpenter Miller (1784 - 1865)*
David Carpenter (1793 - 1890)*
*Calculated relationship
Burial:
Welchs Cemetery
Warrensville
Ashe County
North Carolina, USA
Created by: Jerry
Record added: Sep 17, 2010
Find A Grave Memorial# 58804237
16532.
Frances "Franky" Carpenter
BIO:
http://www.martygrant.com/genealogy/carpenter/carpenter-mathias.htm
Frances Carpenter was born 26 Jan 1771 in Deep Creek community of Surry Co, NC (now Yadkin County).
Frances, known as "Franky" was born and christened with a German name, "Maria Phrone Zimmerman", and it was recorded as such in the Moravian Records, and gave her birth date and that she was a child of Mathias and Elizabeth. Our dear cousin Linda S. Watford (deceased) discovered this record a few years ago at the Moravian Archives in Winston-Salem, NC.
If I understand Germanic naming patterns correctly, the tradition was to name all the daughters with the same first name (such as "Maria", "Anna", etc) and refer to them by the middle name. The same would be true for the sons, all named "Johannes", or "George", etc. It appears that Mathias and Elizabeth started out with this same tradition, by naming Franky that way. We don't have birth records for the other children, so we don't know if the tradition was continued or not.
I've never found any records to support it, but family tradition records that Franky Carpenter married a Mr. Weatherman in Surry Co, NC. This Mr. Weatherman died soon after marriage, and apparently there were no children (or none we have discovered). This Mr. Weatherman is quite probably a son of Christian Weatherman who was a neighbor of Mathias Carpenter in old Surry County. Their marriage date would have been ca 1785 or so.
There was only one Weatherman listed on the 1786 census in Surry County, and that was Christian Weatherman.
Franky then married William Davis <../davis/wnc/davis-william.htm>. ca 1786 or so. They would have to have married in Surry County, since that is where her parents were then, however, it is possible that she and her Weatherman husband had moved to Burke County where Davis was living then, and they married there. Being a widow, she would not need her parents permission to marry.
In any event, after marrying William Davis, they lived in Burke County in the area that later became Yancey County (in 1833), and later became Mitchell County (in 1861) and finally, Avery County (in 1911).
See William Davis' own page for additional information on their family.
From the same web page.
Children of Frances Carpenter and William Davis were as follows:
+ 8 i Nancy3 Davis, born 1794/95 in Burke Co, NC (now Avery Co, NC). She married (1) Thomas Burleson; (2) George W Dean.
+ 9 ii Elizabeth3 Davis, born 1795/96 in Burke Co, NC (now Avery Co, NC); died 10 Oct 1883 in Mitchell Co, NC. She married (1) William Vaughn; (2) John Vance.
+ 10 iii John3 Davis, born 20 Oct 1798 in Burke Co, NC (now Avery Co, NC); died 29 Oct 1881 in Mitchell Co, NC. He married Sarah Buchanan.
+ 11 iv Jacob3 Davis, born 1801 in Burke Co, NC (now Avery Co, NC); died 7 Feb 1873 in Graham Co, NC. He married Susanna Miller (see 29).
+ 12 v Margaret "Peggy"3 Davis, born 1803/04 in Burke Co, NC (now Avery Co, NC); died 15 Oct 1868 in Mitchell Co, NC. She married Josiah G Wise.
+ 13 vi Thomas3 Davis, born 1804/05 in Burke Co, NC (now Avery Co, NC); died 1880/1900 in Graham Co, NC; buried in Lone Oak Cem, Graham Co, NC. He married Arabella Marilla Burchfield.
+ 14 vii Frances "Frankie"3 Davis, born 14 May 1808 in Burke Co, NC (now Avery Co, NC); died 4 Feb 1892 in Mitchell Co, NC. She married Wilson "Wilt" Burleson.
+ 15 viii Rachel3 Davis, born 21 Jun 1810 in Burke Co, NC (now Avery Co, NC); died 9 Sep 1865 in Cherokee Co, NC (now Graham Co, NC); buried in Old Mother Cem, Graham Co, NC. She married William Davis.
16 ix Catherine "Kate"3 Davis, born in Burke Co, NC (now Avery Co, NC); died Child in Burke Co, NC (now Avery Co, NC); buried in Davis Cem, Avery Co, NC.
GRAVE: images
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=113097397
Frances Carpenter "Franky" Weatherman Davis
Birth: Jan. 26, 1771
Surry County
North Carolina, USA
Death: Sep. 10, 1842
Yancey County
North Carolina, USA
Frances Carpenter was born 26 Jan 1771 in Deep Creek community of Surry Co, NC (now Yadkin County).
Frances, known as "Franky" was born and christened with a German name, "Maria Phrone Zimmerman", and it was recorded as such in the Moravian Records, and gave her birth date and that she was a child of Mathias and Elizabeth. This record was discovered by Linda S. Watford (deceased) at the Moravian Archives in Winston-Salem, NC.
Family links:
Parents:
Mathias Carpenter (1752 - 1835)
Elizabeth Miller Carpenter (1755 - 1835)
Spouse:
William Davis (1727 - 1841)*
Children:
John David Davis (1792 - 1881)*
Elizabeth Davis Vance (1796 - 1883)*
Katherine Davis (1800 - 1805)*
Jacob Davis (1801 - 1873)*
Margaret Davis Wise (1803 - 1868)*
Thomas Davis (1804 - 1880)*
Rachel Davis Davis (1810 - 1865)*
Siblings:
Frances Carpenter Weatherman Davis (1771 - 1842)
Jacob Carpenter (1778 - 1857)*
Margaret Carpenter Miller (1784 - 1865)*
David Carpenter (1793 - 1890)*
*Calculated relationship
Burial:
Three Mile Creek Cemetery
Three Mile
Avery County
North Carolina, USA
Created by: Chet Walker
Record added: Jun 30, 2013
Find A Grave Memorial# 113097397
William Davis
GRAVE: images
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=121400633
Corp William Davis
Birth: 1727
Virginia, USA
Death: Oct. 5, 1841
Yancey County
North Carolina, USA
According to careful Census analysis by Marty Grant, William's birth year is closer to about 1733.
Several family traditions give William's birth place as various locations on the British Isles. However, on the 1880 Federal Census, the first U. S. Census to list the parents' nativity, three of his four surviving children give his birthplace as Virginia. The fourth gave North Carolina as her father's birth place. Though not conclusive evidence, it must be considered compelling information from the available records.
The plaque states that William was a member of the 2nd North Carolina Regiment. This 'fact' seems to be in error if the statements of William's brother-in-law, Jacob Carpenter, are to be believed. Those statements say that William was at the Battle of King's Mountain and was wounded in the thigh. The problem is, the 2nd North Carolina Regiment Continental Line did not participate in the skirmish against Cornwallis' men at King's Mountain. Additional research should be conducted by interested parties.
It is known from William's will, recorded in Yancey Co., NC (Will Book 1, p. 353), that he was married once before he married Frances Wiseman née Carpenter. Therein he explicitly states they had three daughters and that they were the only children she bore him. Her name is not given in the will.
Any corrections or additions to this brief biography should be accompanied by verifiable documentation.
~CemeteryMan, ©2013
Family links:
Spouse:
Frances Carpenter Weatherman Davis (1771 - 1842)
Children:
Sarah Davis Rowan (1792 - 1851)*
John David Davis (1792 - 1881)*
Elizabeth Davis Vance (1796 - 1883)*
Katherine Davis (1800 - 1805)*
Jacob Davis (1801 - 1873)*
Margaret Davis Wise (1803 - 1868)*
Thomas Davis (1804 - 1880)*
Rachel Davis Davis (1810 - 1865)*
*Calculated relationship
Burial:
Three Mile Creek Cemetery
Three Mile
Avery County
North Carolina, USA
Created by: CemeteryMan
Record added: Dec 08, 2013
Find A Grave Memorial# 121400633
16535.
Mary Carpenter
BIO:
http://www.martygrant.com/genealogy/carpenter/carpenter-mathias.htm
Mary Carpenter married Joseph Roten (also spelled "Josiah" on occasion) ca 1807 in Ashe County.
Joseph Roten was born ca 1783/84 in Delaware (per the 1850 census) or North Carolina per the 1860 census. The name "Roten" was also spelled "Roughten" on some records. Pronounced "Row-ten".
There were no Roten's in 1800 Ashe County, so no clues to who Joseph's parents were.
Joseph Roten was listed on the 1810 census in Ashe County as "J. Roughten". There were two listed this way, on different pages. One was much older (age 26-44, born ca 1755/74), and quite possibly father of Joseph. Near Joseph was a "L. Roughten", possibly his brother. Next to Joseph was "J. Miller", quite possibly his brother-in-law Jonathan Miller <../miller/miller-jonathan-ashe.htm>. (Too bad this census taker only used initials!)
1810 census analysis (based on available evidence): (Explanation of this census <../reference/1810.htm>)
1810 Ashe Co, NC pg 12/82 J. Roughten 00100-20100
Analysis:
1 Male(s) 16-25 (1784-1794) Joseph ROTEN (1783/84)
1 Female(s) 16-25 (1784-1794) Mary CARPENTER Roten (1784/85) wife
2 Female(s) 0-9 (1800-1810) Margaret ROTEN (1808) daughter
Frances ROTEN (1809) daughter
Joseph was listed on the 1820 census in Ashe County, unfortunately, this census was mostly alphabetical, so we can't tell who his neighbors were. The ages of Joseph and wife in this census aren't an exact match, but this is them, I'm sure. An older woman, perhaps Joseph's mother was with them in 1820.
1820 census analysis (based on available evidence): (Explanation of this census <../reference/1820.htm>)
1820 Ashe Co, NC pg 16 Joseph Roten 110100-32101
Analysis:
1 Male(s) 16-25 (1794-1804) Joseph ROTEN (1783/84)
1 Male(s) 10-15 (1804-1810) Son? Brother? * Not in 1810
1 Male(s) 0-9 (1810-1820) Larkin ROTEN (1811)
1 Female(s) 45 & up (before 1775) Mother? (Bef 1775)
1 Female(s) 16-25 (1794-1804) Mary CARPENTER Roten (1784/85) wife
2 Female(s) 10-15 (1804-1810) Margaret ROTEN (1808) daughter
Frances ROTEN (1809) daughter
3 Female(s) 0-9 (1810-1820) Mary ROTEN (1810) daughter
Comfort ROTEN (1813/14) daughter
Daughter? (1810/20)
Joseph Roten was listed on the 1830 census in Ashe County. The ages for their children are not a perfect match for the children I have for them, but that isn't unusual.
1830 census analysis (based on available evidence): (Explanation of this census <../reference/1830.htm>)
1830 Ashe County, NC pg 17 Joseph Roten 1210001000000-0020101000000
Analysis:
1 Male(s) 40-49 (1780-1790) Joseph ROTEN (1783/84)
1 Male(s) 10-14 (1815-1820) Sydney ROTEN (1820) son
2 Male(s) 5-9 (1820-1825) James ROTEN (1820/21) son
Jacob ROTEN (1824) son
1 Male(s) 0-4 (1825-1830) David ROTEN (1828/29) son
1 Female(s) 40-49 (1780-1790) Mary CARPENTER Roten (1784/85) wife
1 Female(s) 20-29 (1800-1810) Mary ROTEN (1810) daughter
2 Female(s) 10-14 (1815-1820) Comfort ROTEN (1813/14) daughter
Lydia ROTEN (1822/23) daughter
In October 1835, after the death of Mathias Carpenter, his heirs made several deeds among themselves dividing his property. Joseph and Mary Roten were named on all of the deeds selling land to the other heirs, and on one deed (all were dated 21 Oct 1835), the other heirs sold Joseph Roten 300 acres on North Fork New River including the Big Spring. (Ashe County, NC Deed Book G page 165).
Joseph Roten was listed on the 1840 census in Ashe County just two houses from his nephew Andrew J. Carpenter, son of Christina Carpenter.
1840 census analysis (based on available evidence): (Explanation of this census <../reference/1840.htm>)
1840 Ashe County, NC pg 30 Joseph Roten 0022000100000-0110000100000
Analysis:
1 Male(s) 50-59 (1780-1790) Joseph ROTEN (1783/84)
2 Male(s) 15-19 (1820-1825) Sydney ROTEN (1820) son
James ROTEN (1820/21) son
2 Male(s) 10-14 (1825-1830) Jacob ROTEN (1824) son
David ROTEN (1828/29) son
1 Female(s) 50-59 (1780-1790) Mary CARPENTER Roten (1784/85) wife
1 Female(s) 10-14 (1825-1830) Daughter? (1825/30)
1 Female(s) 5-9 (1830-1835) Elizabeth ROTEN (1831/32) daughter
Joseph and Mary were listed on the 1850 Ashe County census. They were listed between their sons David and Jacob Roten.
1850 census abstract: (Explanation of this census <../reference/1850.htm>)
(Note: The dates at the end of each line are not part of the original census, but are approximate birth years based on age)
1850 ASHE CO, NC Page 319B House/Family # 1180/1180
ROTEN JOSIAH 66 M W FARMER DELEWARE 1783/1784
ROTEN MARY 65 F W NC 1784/1785
ROTEN ELIZABETH 18 F W NC 1831/1832
Joseph and Mary were listed on the 1860 census in Ashe County, NC.
1860 census abstract: (Explanation of this census <../reference/1860.htm>)
(Note: The dates at the end of each line are not part of the original census, but are approximate birth years based on age)
1860 ASHE CO, NC Page House/Family # 599/ 599
ROTEN JOSEPH 75 M W FARMER NC 1784/1785
ROTEN MARY 72 F W NC 1787/1788
Mary Carpenter Roten died in Ashe County between 1860 and 1870. I don't know where she is buried, perhaps at the Welch Cemetery near her parents.
Joseph Roten died in October 1869 in Ashe County, as reported on the 1870 census Mortality Schedule. He is possibly buried at the Welch Cemetery also.
There are probably many records to be found in Ashe County for this family, but I have not searched them out yet.
From the same web page.
Children of Mary Carpenter and Joseph Roten were as follows:
+ 37 i Margaret "Peggy"3 Roten, born 8 Jun 1808 in Ashe Co, NC; died 5 Jul 1893 in Ashe Co, NC. She married William Calhoun.
+ 38 ii Frances3 Roten, born 10 Jul 1809 in Ashe Co, NC; died 17 May 1896 in NC. She married Cary Ashley.
+ 39 iii Mary "Polly"3 Roten, born abt 1810 in Ashe Co, NC; died bef 1880 in Ashe Co, NC. She married William R Ashley.
+ 40 iv Larkin3 Roten, born 1811/12 in Ashe Co, NC; died 28 May 1881 in Ashe Co, NC. He married Sarah Calhoun.
+ 41 v Comfort3 Roten, born 1813/14 in Ashe Co, NC; died 1894 in Ashe Co, NC. She married John Spencer Ashley.
+ 42 vi Sydney3 Roten, born 7 Oct 1820 in Ashe Co, NC; died 4 Oct 1885 in Ashe Co, NC. He married (1) Mary "Polly" Brown; (2) Sarah Roten.
+ 43 vii Lydia3 Roten, born 1822/23 in Ashe Co, NC; died aft 1900. She married John W Calhoun.
+ 44 viii James3 Roten, born 1820/21 in Ashe Co, NC. He married Martha "Patsy" Calhoun.
+ 45 ix Jacob3 Roten, born 23 Jan 1824 in Ashe Co, NC; died 20 Aug 1901 in Ashe Co, NC. He married Nancy B Latham.
+ 46 x David3 Roten, born 1828/29 in Ashe Co, NC; died 13 Dec 1862 in Fredricksburg, VA. He married Sarah Osborne.
47 xi Elizabeth3 Roten, born 1831/32 in Ashe Co, NC.
8289.
Thomas Carpenter
MISC:
Ohio was formed as a state in 1803 from the Ohio Territory formed in 1799. Before that it was the "Territory NW of the Ohio River" and before 1790 it was the CT Reserve area.
Gallia County (formed in 1803), OH is directly across the river from Mason County (formed in 1804), VA, now WV.
CONFLICT:
Per his claimed son Joseph, this Thomas was born in VA of which part became WV. AND not born in OH. Yet the 1860 and 1870 US Census indicate birth in OH but the 1850 and 1880 cite VA/WV. See details below.
Thomas (17) Carpenter was born in October of 1796 in Gallia County, Ohio,
married Sarah Wright circa 1830 and died after 1880 in Roane County, West
Virginia.
Sarah was the daughter of Basil (pronounced Bozzel) and Nancy Jones (Miller)
Wright and supposedly born around 1812. (Census and other records indicate an
earlier birth year circa 1803/1806. Nancy was the widow of Samuel Miller. They
were the parents of the Samuel Miller who married Rebecca Carpenter and Joshua
Miller who married Nancy Wolfe, daughter of Jonathan and Bridget (Runnion)
Wolfe. Basil Wright is said to have been a veteran of both the Revolutionary
War and the War of 1812. The Millers and Wrights became half
cousins of each other after this marriage.
There is as much disagreement over the age of Thomas (17) Carpenter's wife
and when he married her as there is in naming his father Jesse's family. Most
sources claim that Sarah Wright was born circa 1812 (She even has a tombstone
to that effect) and that she married Thomas about 1830. Her age in the
censuses and a study of the birth order in Basil and Nancy (Jones) (Miller)
Wright's family indicate that her birthyear was approximately 1803.
Martha (cl8l7), Joseph (c1820) and John A. W823) are usually thought of as
being children of Jesse but are probably offspring of his son Thomas,
although the best approximation of their marriage date is 1823. Some purists
may have a problem with this, but a legally recognized nuptial
has never been a necessary prerequisite to parenting.
Thomas Carpenter's family had a cabin and farm at the present site of the
state hospital in Spencer, Roane County, West Virginia as early as the 1820's.
This tract of land was particuliarly valuable because it encompassed a small
cave that contained the saltpeter so necessary for manufacturing
gunpowder. Hunting was essential to supplement whatever could be raised
on the farm and stored for winter. The meat and hides of these animals
could also be traded for table salt, lead and other valuable products in
Kanawha. On one accasion, Thomas acquired a complete set of
dishes for his wife, Sarah, and carried them across the mountains in a "wampus"
(a sling tied over the neck and one shoulder to carry things from the front.
NOTE: Based on the above, we should find some trace of them in the census records.
Mason and Jackson Counties of Virginia became part of WV in 1862.
Mason County was created in 1804 from Kanawha County.
Jackson County was created in 1831 from Kanawha, Mason and Wood.
CENSUS: 1830 US Census
Name: Thomas Carpenter
Home in 1830 (City, County, State): Kanawha, Virginia
Free White Persons - Males - 20 thru 29: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29: 1
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 2
Total Free White Persons: 2
Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored): 2
Source Citation
1830; Census Place: Kanawha, Virginia; Series: M19; Roll: 191; Page: 186; Family History Library Film: 0029670
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1830 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: Fifth Census of the United States, 1830. (NARA microfilm publication M19, 201 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
CENSUS: 1840 US Census
1840 (City, County, State): Jackson, Virginia
Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 30 thru 39: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 30 thru 39: 1
No. White Persons over 20 Who Cannot Read and Write: 1
Free White Persons - Under 20: 3
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 2
Total Free White Persons: 5
Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves: 5
Source Citation
Year: 1840; Census Place: Jackson, Virginia; Page: 209
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1840 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: Sixth Census of the United States, 1840. (NARA microfilm publication M704, 580 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
CENSUS: 1850 US Census
Name: Thos Carpenter
Age: 47
Birth Year: abt 1803
Birthplace: Ohio
Home in 1850: District 27, Jackson, Virginia, USA
Gender: Male
Family Number: 107
Household Members:
Name Age
Thos Carpenter 47
Sarah Carpenter 47
John Carpenter 18
James Carpenter 14
Jno Huryman 36
Margaret Huryman 36
Rebecca Huryman 12
Samuel Huryman 10
Lefage AR Huryman 7
Jacob Huryman 5
Wm G Huryman 4
Madison Huryman 1
Source Citation
Year: 1850; Census Place: District 27, Jackson, Virginia; Roll: M432_953; Page: 194A; Image: 20
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1850 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2009. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: Seventh Census of the United States, 1850; (National Archives Microfilm Publication M432, 1009 rolls); Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29; National Archives, Washington, D.C.
CENSUS: 1860 US Census
Name: Thomas Carpenter
Age: 61
Birth Year: abt 1799
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Ohio <---------------- showing Ohio and not VA/WV
Home in 1860: Roane, Virginia
Post Office: Walton
Dwelling Number: 468
Family Number: 468
Occupation: Farmer
Real Estate Value: 500
Personal Estate Value: 400
Cannot Read, Write: Y
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Carpenter 61
Sarah Carpenter 44
Jonathan Reynolds 23
Source Citation
Year: 1860; Census Place: Roane, Virginia; Roll: M653_1375; Page: 611; Family History Library Film: 805375
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1860 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2009. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: 1860 U.S. census, population schedule. NARA microfilm publication M653, 1,438 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.
CENSUS: 1870 US Census
Name: Thos Carpenter
Age in 1870: 81
Birth Year: abt 1789
Birthplace: Ohio <---------------- showing Ohio and not VA/WV
Dwelling Number: 46
Home in 1870: Spencer, Roane, West Virginia
Race: White
Gender: Male
Occupation: Farmer
Cannot Read: Y
Cannot Write: Y
Male Citizen over 21: Y
Personal Estate Value: 300
Real Estate Value: 1000
Inferred Spouse: Sarah Carpenter
Household Members:
Name Age
Thos Carpenter 81
Sarah Carpenter 65
Source Citation
Year: 1870; Census Place: Spencer, Roane, West Virginia; Roll: M593_1699; Page: 63A; Family History Library Film: 553198
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1870 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2009. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data:
1870 U.S. census, population schedules. NARA microfilm publication M593, 1,761 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.
CENSUS: 1880 US Census - living with son James
Name: Thomas Carpenter
Age: 85
Birth Date: Abt 1795
Birthplace: West Virginia
Home in 1880: Spencer, Roane, West Virginia, USA
Dwelling Number: 69
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Father
Father's Birthplace: West Virginia
Mother's Birthplace: West Virginia
Sick: Old Age
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
James Carpenter 42
Rachel Carpenter 41
Mary Carpenter 19
George B. Carpenter 18
Martha F. Carpenter 17
Annie M. Carpenter 15
B. Ellen Carpenter 12
John Carpenter 10
Sarah E. Carpenter 8
Thomas D. Carpenter 5
Harry H. Carpenter 3
Eliza R. Carpenter 2/12
Thomas Carpenter 85 <-----------------
Source Citation
Year: 1880; Census Place: Spencer, Roane, West Virginia; Roll: 1413; Page: 87A; Enumeration District: 124
Source Information
Ancestry.com and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. 1880 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010. 1880 U.S. Census Index provided by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints © Copyright 1999 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. All use is subject to the limited use license and other terms and conditions applicable to this site.
Original data: Tenth Census of the United States, 1880. (NARA microfilm publication T9, 1,454 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
DEATH: about 1882
NOT THIS PERSON - CAUTION - some claim (obviously in error) that the Thomas above was the Thomas Carpenter of Belmont County, OH whose probate was dated 9 Oct 1882 and of who some claim as a death date. See below.
But per filmstrip number 604 of 2303, indicates that Thomas died on 11 Feb 1881 in Athens, Athens County, Ohio who died in the Insane Asylum. But this Thomas also held properties in the Town of Flushing that accumulated rents due and cited in the probate records and had to be sold. No spouse of children cited.
On filmstrip number 621 of 3203 is a kinship document dated 6 April 1881.
Atta Richards - sister
Walker Carpenter - brother
William Carpenter - brother
Riley Carpenter - brother
Jonathan Carpenter - brother
Mary McGee - sister - heir
Susan Johnson - sister
Sarah G. Powell - sister
John Carpenter - brother - heir
...................... posting
Name: Thomas Carpenter
Probate Date: 9 Oct 1882
Probate Place: Belmont, Ohio, USA
Inferred Death Year: Abt 1882
Inferred Death Place: Ohio, USA
Case Number: 8331
Item Description: Probate Court Records, 8323-8355, 1881
Table of Contents 264 images
Cover Page 1
Account Papers 2–4
Miscellaneous 5
Administration Papers 6–9
Account Papers 10–54
Petition Papers 55–56
Administration Papers 57–58
Order Papers 59–72
Inventory Papers 73–78
Sales Paper 79–91
Administration Papers 92–97
Sales Paper 98–102
Administration Papers 103–111
Order Papers 112–115
Sales Paper 116–140
Account Papers 141–147
Cover Page 148
Account Papers 149–185
Sales Paper 186–189
Miscellaneous 190
Administration Papers 191–196
Account Papers 197
Sales Paper 198–244
Account Papers 245–248
Sales Paper 249–253
Administration Papers 254–258
Petition Papers 259–261
Sales Paper 262–264
Source Citation
Probate Court Records (Belmont County, Ohio), Ca. 1836-1900 ; General Index to Estates, 1801-1935; Author: Ohio. Probate Court (Belmont County); Probate Place: Belmont, Ohio
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Ohio, Wills and Probate Records, 1786-1998 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015.
Original data: Ohio County, District and Probate Courts.
Sarah E. Wright
There is as much disagreement over the age of Thomas (17) Carpenter's wife
and when he married her as there is in naming his father Jesse's family. Most
sources claim that Sarah Wright was born circa 1812 (She even has a tombstone
to that effect) and that she married Thomas about 1830. Her age in the
censuses and a study of the birth order in Basil and Nancy (Jones) (Miller)
Wright's family indicate that her birth year was approximately 1803. Martha
(cl8l7), Joseph (c1820) and John A. c.1823) are usually thought of as being
children of Jesse but are probably offspring of his son Thomas, although the
best approximation of their marriage date is 1823. Some purists may have a
problem with this, but a legally recognized nuptial has never been a necessary
prerequisite to parenting.
Following taken from the Mowrey book, page 176, Vol. III, in misc family
entries;
Sarah E. Wright was born circa 1803/05 died in July of 1872 and married about
1823 Thomas Carpenter (born in October of 1796 in Meigs County, Ohio, died
after 1880 Roane County, West Virginia, son of Jesse and Sarah Jane "Jenny"
Riffe).
From the Mowrey book, page 180, Vol. III the following information is taken:
Nancy (Jones) Miller's marriage to Basil Wright after the death of her first
husband Samuel Miller, presents some timeline problems for the Carpenters. If
census records are to be believed, then Sarah E. Wright (wife of Thomas
Carpenter) would have had to have been born circa 1803/06 rather than the 1812
date that is usually assigned her.
In order to place Sarah in the family with some degree of certainly I am using
the birth date of 1803, which fits into the family. Future research may
correct this assumption.
16541.
Elizabeth or Eliza Carpenter
NAME: Eliza or Elizabeth.
Eliza (18) Carpenter (birthdate unknown) married Hiram Chapman before 1850.
16543.
Dusky Carpenter
NAME: Dusky may have been a nickname?
In another part of the Mowrey Book is the following note which may relate:
John A. (17) Carpenter was born 1820-1823, married Mary E. Sharp circa
1850, resided in Jackson County in 1850 and died in Roane County after 1870.
(There is much evidence to suggest that Martha, Joseph and John A. were
actually children of Thomas (17) and Sarah (Wright) Carpenter and that
Stephen and Susan were children of John (16) and Sarah Ratcliff Carpenter.
Research is necessary!)
16544.
Martha Carpenter
Martha (18) Carpenter was born circa 1817/20, unmarried in 1860.
May have died young.
NOTE: Her parents married about 1823!
CENSUS: 1860 US Census - enumerated with brother Joseph - see his notes.
16547.
Julia Carpenter
Probably not the same Julia but interesting data!
ABRIDGED COMPENDIUEM OF AMERICA GENEALOGY, FIRST FAMILYS OF AMERICA
VOL. 4 PG 277
William Francis Hocking M.D. 1836--1903 of Yonkers New York, and
Cleveland, Ohio, married 1871, Julia Carpenter born 1848 Southbridge,
had issue; (a) Grace Louise born 1875, married PROFESSOR WILLIAM H
RUNYON.
Seth Otis Thayer
PARENTS:
Job Thayer 1782–1857 • FSFT LR6T-HQ2
Marriage: 1823 Kanawha, Wood, Virginia, United States
Fanny Taylor1790–1857 • FSFT L418-C5Q
8296.
John A. Carpenter
Jackson county is now in WV.
NAME: AKA "Dusky".
John A. (17) Carpenter was born 1820-1823, married Mary E. Sharp circa
1850, resided in Jackson County in 1850 and died in Roane County after 1870.
(There is much evidence to suggest that Martha, Joseph and John A. were
actually children of Thomas (17) and Sarah (Wright) Carpenter and that
Stephen and Susan were children of John (16) and Sarah Ratcliff Carpenter.
Research is necessary!)
Mary Malinda Tanner
Here is another situation with an individual having two spouses named the John
Carpenter but who have different parents. This Mary Malinda with the same
parents but listed as Mary, in one marriage, married John Carpenter.
Which one is the correct spouse is not known.
One of the Marys may have had for a father one of the two Jesse Tanners in the
file.