Group 3 - Descendants of William Carpenter-98-
Father of William Carpenter-584 (b. abt 1605)
Notes
16802.
Abraham Hoogland "Abram" Carpenter
NOTE:
Queens county until 1898, now Nassau county.
Number 1322 in the Daniel H. Carpenter book, 1901. See notes on page 299.
He died after a long and painful illness. He studied medicine after his
marriage and practiced at Newark, NJ. Died before 1900.
IGI also has:
Birth: 09 MAY 1836 Sands Point Light House,, , New York
Death: 13 JAN 1875
AND
Birth: 09 MAY 1836 Sand Point Lighthouse,L I,, , New York
Death: 13 JAN 1875 Newark, Essex, New Jersey
Burial: Newark, Essex, New Jersey
CHR: image
Name: Abraham Hoaglund Carpenter
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: May 9, 1830 <----- per image maybe 1836
Baptism Date: March 5, 1843
Baptism Place: New York City, New York, USA
Church: Seventh Presbyterian Church
Father: Benjamin Carpenter
Mother: Sarah A. Carpenter
Source Citation
Presbyterian Historical Society; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Book Title: 1818 - 1888
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Presbyterian Church Records, 1701-1970 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
Original data: Church Registers. Presbyterian Historical Society, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
NOTE: (101 of 134)
Daniel Hoaglund (b. 14 Apr 1828), Benjamin Coles (b. 23 Sep 1830), Abraham Hoaglund (b. 9 May 1830), Mary Elizabeth (b. 8 Jan 1839) and James Wesley Carpenter (b. 3 Dec 1842) all listed on the same image.
CENSUS: 1870 US Census
Name: Abram Carpenter
Age in 1870: 35
Birth Year: abt 1835
Birthplace: New York
Home in 1870: Newark Ward 4, Essex, New Jersey
Race: White
Gender: Male
Post Office: Newark
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Abram Carpenter 35
Addie Carpenter 26
Arthur H Carpenter 4
Harris Carpenter 72
Source Citation
Year: 1870; Census Place: Newark Ward 4, Essex, New Jersey; Roll: M593_880; Page: 367B; Image: 248186; Family History Library Film: 552379
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1870 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2009. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
CENSUS 1880 US: (NOTE: Abram is deceased and his widow is the head of house)
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
Addie CARPENTER Self W Female W 32 NY Music Teacher CT NY
Arthur CARPENTER Son S Male W 14 NY Wks Stch Factory NY NY
Harry CARPENTER Son S Male W 10 NY At School NY NY
Daisy CARPENTER Dau S Female W 8 NJ NY NY
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Source Information:
Census Place Oyster Bay, Queens, New York City-Greater, New York
Family History Library Film 1254919
NA Film Number T9-0919
Page Number 414D
DEATH:
Name: Abram H Carpenter
Birth Date: abt 1836
Death Date: 15 Jan 1875
Death Place: Newark, Essex, New Jersey
Death Age: 39 years 7 months
Gender: Male
Father Name: Benjamin
Mother Name: Sarah H
FHL Film Number: 584598
Source Information
Ancestry.com. New Jersey, Deaths and Burials Index, 1798-1971 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data:
"New Jersey Deaths and Burials, 1720–1971." Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah, 2009, 2010. Index entries derived from digital copies of original and compiled records.
Addie E. Downs
CENSUS: 1870 US Census
CENSUS: 1880 US Census
Name: Addie Carpenter
Age: 32
Birth Year: abt 1848
Birthplace: New York
Home in 1880: Queens, Queens, New York
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Connecticut
Mother's Birthplace: New York
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Music Teacher
Cannot read/write:
Blind:
Deaf and dumb:
Otherwise disabled:
Idiotic or insane:
Household Members:
Name Age
Addie Carpenter 32
Arthur Carpenter 14
Harry Carpenter 10
Daisy Carpenter 8
Source Citation
Year: 1880; Census Place: Queens, Queens, New York; Roll: 919; Family History Film: 1254919; Page: 414D; Enumeration District: 294; Image: 0538
Source Information
Ancestry.com and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. 1880 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010. 1880 U.S. Census Index provided by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints © Copyright 1999 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. All use is subject to the limited use license and other terms and conditions applicable to this site.
Original data: Tenth Census of the United States, 1880. (NARA microfilm publication T9, 1,454 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
CENSUS: 1885 Rhode Island State Census
Name: Addie J Carpenter
Birth Date: abt 1848
Birth Place: New York
Gender: Female
Age: 37
Marital Status: Married
Relationship: Wife
Enumeration Year: 1885
Township: Providence Ward 1
County: Providence
Enumeration District or Census Tract: 3
Line Number: 4
Household number: 61
Volume Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Addie J Carpenter 37
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Rhode Island, State Censuses, 1865-1935 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2013.
Original data: Rhode Island State Census, 1865. Microfilm. New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, Massachusetts.
Rhode Island State Census, 1875. Microfilm. New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, Massachusetts.
Rhode Island State Census, 1885. Microfilm. New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, Massachusetts.
CENSUS: 1890 US Census - burned
CENSUS: 1900 US Census
26427.
Harry B. Carpenter
In 1894 he was noted in Helena, MT. Not married as of then. This is likely not him - See grave.
CENSUS: 1870 US Census - with parents - age 7/12 not age 72!
CENSUS: 1880 US Census - with mother
GRAVE:
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=92251099
Harry B Carpenter
Birth: unknown
Death: Feb. 5, 1888
Burial:
Maplewood Cemetery
Freehold
Monmouth County
New Jersey, USA
Created by: RobMinteer57
Record added: Jun 20, 2012
Find A Grave Memorial# 92251099
26428.
Daisey T. Carpenter
BIRTH:
Name: Carpenter
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 9 Feb 1872
Birth Place: Newark, Essex, New Jersey
Father: Abm K Carpenter
Mother: Addie E
FHL Film Number: 494170
Source Information
Ancestry.com. New Jersey, Births and Christenings Index, 1660-1931 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data:
"New Jersey Births and Christenings, 1660-1931." Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah, 2009, 2010. Index entries derived from digital copies of original and compiled records.
CENSUS: 1900 US Census
Name: Daisy T Carpenter
Age: 28
Birth Date: Feb 1872
Birthplace: New Jersey
Home in 1900: Smithtown, Suffolk, New York
Sheet Number: 11A
Institution: Society Saint Johnland
Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 200
Family Number: 212
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: New York
Mother's Birthplace: New York
Occupation: Mation
Months not employed: 0
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
Can Speak English: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
...
Daisy T Carpenter 28
...
Source Citation
Year: 1900; Census Place: Smithtown, Suffolk, New York; Roll: 1166; Page: 11A; Enumeration District: 0779; FHL microfilm: 1241166
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1900 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004.
Original data: United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Twelfth Census of the United States, 1900. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1900. T623, 1854 rolls.
16803.
Mary Elizabeth Carpenter
NOTE:
Queens county until 1898, now Nassau county. Musketa Cove until 1834 then Glen Cove. Number 1323 in the Daniel H. Carpenter book, 1901.
CHR: image
Name: Mary Elizabeth Carpenter
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: January 8, 1839
Baptism Date: March 5, 1843
Baptism Place: New York City, New York, USA
Church: Seventh Presbyterian Church
Father: Benjamin Carpenter
Mother: Sarah A. Carpenter
Source Citation
Presbyterian Historical Society; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Book Title: 1818 - 1888
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Presbyterian Church Records, 1701-1970 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
Original data: Church Registers. Presbyterian Historical Society, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
NOTE: (101 of 134)
Daniel Hoaglund (b. 14 Apr 1828), Benjamin Coles (b. 23 Sep 1830), Abraham Hoaglund (b. 9 May 1830), Mary Elizabeth (b. 8 Jan 1839) and James Wesley Carpenter (b. 3 Dec 1842) all listed on the same image.
Thomas Jefferson Carpenter
Queens county until 1898, now Nassau county.
Number 1332 in the Daniel H. Carpenter book, 1901.
26429.
Edith Louise Carpenter
Number 1739 in "History and Genealogy of the CARPENTER FAMILY IN AMERICA"
by Daniel H. Carpenter, 1901.
26430.
Thomas Oscar Carpenter
Number 1745 in "History and Genealogy of the CARPENTER FAMILY IN AMERICA"
by Daniel H. Carpenter, 1901.
Sea Cliff was part of Queens county until 1898 when it became part of Nassau.
26431.
Jesse Erenstine Carpenter
Number 1744 in "History and Genealogy of the CARPENTER FAMILY IN AMERICA"
by Daniel H. Carpenter, 1901.
Sea Cliff was part of Queens county until 1898 when it became part of Nassau.
26432.
Sarah Eliza Carpenter
Number 1743 in "History and Genealogy of the CARPENTER FAMILY IN AMERICA"
by Daniel H. Carpenter, 1901.
Sea Cliff was part of Queens county until 1898 when it became part of Nassau.
26435.
George Latham Carpenter
Number 1740 in "History and Genealogy of the CARPENTER FAMILY IN AMERICA" by Daniel H. Carpenter, 1901.
Burial: Carpenter Family Cemetary , Sea Cliff, LI,NY.
16806.
James Smith Carpenter
Number 1326 in the Carpenter Family in America book by Daniel H. Carpenter, 1912.
CENSUS: 1880 United States Census
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
James CARPENTER Self M Male W 60 NY Bookkeeper NY NY
Ann E. CARPENTER Wife M Female W 60 NY Keeping House NY NY
Joshephene CARPENTER Dau S Female W 30 NY At Home NY NY
Mary W. CARPENTER Dau S Female W 20 NY At Home NY NY
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Source Information:
Census Place Long Island, Queens, New York City-Greater, New York
Family History Library Film 1254918
NA Film Number T9-0918
Page Number 18D
26437.
Josephine Elmore Carpenter
CENSUS: In 1880 US Census with father.
26440.
Mary W. or Mamie Carpenter
CENSUS: In 1880 US Census with father.
16807.
William Bird Carpenter
Number 1327 in the Carpenter Family in America book by Daniel H. Carpenter,
1912.
John Searing Pearsall
Number 1328 in the Carpenter Family in America book by Daniel H. Carpenter,
1912. Her husband was a farmer at Searintown.
16809.
John Wesley Carpenter
Number 1329 in the Carpenter Family in America book by Daniel H. Carpenter on page 248.
John Wesley, born about 1827, married and had one daughter; wife and daughter deceased. He died August 30, 1898. Buried at Searingtown, September 1, 1898.
UPDATE: Debra Carpenter has indicated that the John Carpenter who married Lucinda Dixon may not be the same John W. Carpenter as this John W. Carpenter. 3/30/2006 New e-mail: debcar60@earthlink.net
John & Lucinda Carpenter
Author: Debra Carpenter Date: 6 Mar 2006 10:32 PM GMT
Hello I am looking for info on John mainly, I know he was born in Va, abt 1813 to 1825, census shows his father born in Va. He was married on 2-17-1841 in Sumner, Tn, to a Lucinda Dixon-she was born in KY. I know of one son, Henry Carpenter b-2-12-1850 in Ky, who married a Nancy Ann Belcher,b- 8-10-1841 in Ky, . Any help greatly needed, thank you, Debra
26446.
Sarah Jane Carpenter
Died young.
16810.
Rosalie Elma Carpenter
Number 1330 in the Carpenter Family in America book by Daniel H. Carpenter.
James Metcalf Carpenter
a builder.
16812.
Thomas Jefferson Carpenter
Queens county until 1898, now Nassau county.
Number 1332 in the Daniel H. Carpenter book, 1901.
Mary Elizabeth Carpenter
NOTE:
Queens county until 1898, now Nassau county. Musketa Cove until 1834 then Glen Cove. Number 1323 in the Daniel H. Carpenter book, 1901.
CHR: image
Name: Mary Elizabeth Carpenter
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: January 8, 1839
Baptism Date: March 5, 1843
Baptism Place: New York City, New York, USA
Church: Seventh Presbyterian Church
Father: Benjamin Carpenter
Mother: Sarah A. Carpenter
Source Citation
Presbyterian Historical Society; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Book Title: 1818 - 1888
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Presbyterian Church Records, 1701-1970 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
Original data: Church Registers. Presbyterian Historical Society, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
NOTE: (101 of 134)
Daniel Hoaglund (b. 14 Apr 1828), Benjamin Coles (b. 23 Sep 1830), Abraham Hoaglund (b. 9 May 1830), Mary Elizabeth (b. 8 Jan 1839) and James Wesley Carpenter (b. 3 Dec 1842) all listed on the same image.
16813.
Latting Carpenter
Number 1333 in the Carpenter Family in America book (1901).
Family on page 302. See wife's notes regarding possible second wife.
He was a Captain of a coasting (a coast sailing) schooner.
CENSUS: 1850 US Census - with parents
CENSUS: 1860 US Census
CENSUS: 1870 US Census
Name: Latting Carpenter
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1870
Event Place: New York, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 34
Race: White
Race (Original): W
Birth Year (Estimated): 1835-1836
Birthplace: New York
Page Number: 81
Household ID: 1
Line Number: 2
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: M593
GS Film number: 000552580
Digital Folder Number: 004276963
Image Number: 00254
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Latting Carpenter M 34 New York
Caroline Carpenter F 25 New York
Wallace Carpenter M 0 New York
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1870," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M8V1-3HG : accessed 09 Apr 2014), Latting Carpenter, New York, United States; citing p. 81, family 1, NARA microfilm publication M593, FHL microfilm 000552580.
CENSUS: 1880 US Census
Name: Latting Carpenter
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1880
Event Place: Oyster Bay, Queens, New York, United States
District: 294
Gender: Male
Age: 45
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): W
Occupation: Sailor (Capt)
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Self
Birth Year (Estimated): 1835
Birthplace: New York, United States
Father's Birthplace: New York, United States
Mother's Birthplace: New York, United States
Sheet Number and Letter: 398C
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: T9
Affiliate Film Number: 0919
GS Film Number: 1254919
Digital Folder Number: 004243452
Image Number: 00508
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Self Latting Carpenter M 45 New York, United States
Wife Caroline Carpenter F 34 New York, United States
Son Coles Carpenter M 6 New York, United States
Nephew Louis Dickinson M 8 New York, United States
Son Wallace Carpenter M 10 New York, United States
Daughter Lilian Carpenter F 8 New York, United States
Mother-in-law Susan Dickinson F 64 New York, United States
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1880," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MZFH-3V3 : accessed 09 Apr 2014), Latting Carpenter, Oyster Bay, Queens, New York, United States; citing sheet 398C, NARA microfilm publication T9.
CENSUS: 1890 US Census - burned
CENSUS: 1892 New York Census
Name: Latting Carpenter
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1892
Event Place: , Oyster Bay,, 11, Queens, New York
Age:
Gender: Male
Birthplace: United States
Birth Year (Estimated): 1836
Citizenship Status:
GS Film number: 1976731
Digital Folder Number: 004640375
Image Number: 00413
Citing this Record:
"New York, State Census, 1892," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3X8-QPN : accessed 09 Apr 2014), Latting Carpenter,, Oyster Bay,, 11, Queens, New York; citing FHL microfilm .
MARRIAGE: 1894
Name: Latting Carpenter
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Amelia Huffinger Reid
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 03 Jun 1894
Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York
Father's Name: Coles
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Tuttle
Spouse's Father's Name: William
Spouse's Mother's Name: Margaret Kohn
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00122-2
System Origin: New_York-ODM
GS Film number: 1493119
Reference ID:
Citing this Record:
"New York, Marriages, 1686-1980," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F647-DQ4 : accessed 09 Apr 2014), Latting Carpenter and Amelia Huffinger Reid, 03 Jun 1894; citing reference ; FHL microfilm 1493119.
CENSUS: 1900 US Census
Name: Latting Carpenter
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1900
Event Place: Borough of Manhattan, Election District 20 New York City Ward 4, New York County, New York, United States
District: 88
Gender: Male
Age: 64
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): W
Relationship to Head of Household: Captain
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Captain
Number of Living Children:
Years Married: 7
Birth Date: Feb 1836
Birthplace: New York
Marriage Year (Estimated): 1893
Immigration Year:
Father's Birthplace: New York
Mother's Birthplace: Connecticut
Mother of how many children:
Sheet Number and Letter: 1A
Household ID: 3
Line Number: 7
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: T623
GS Film Number: 1241084
Digital Folder Number: 004114587
Image Number: 00500
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Captain Latting Carpenter M 64 New York
Wife Emilia Carpenter F 57 New York
Stepdaughter Margiret Carpenter F 28 New York
Son Daniels Carpenter M 5 New York
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1900," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MSJG-B85 : accessed 09 Apr 2014), Latting Carpenter, Borough of Manhattan, Election District 20 New York City Ward 4, New York County, New York, United States; citing sheet 1A, family 3, NARA microfilm publication T623, FHL microfilm 1241084.
Caroline M. Dickenson
The Daniel H. Carpenter book indicates she died on 17 June 1885 at aged 40, 4
months, 12 days. This information is different from the information supplied
by John L. Carpenter (born 1945) of NH who reports death date of 29 Sep 1925.
Could the person who died in 1925 be the second wife?
Also one record has 5 children (John L. Carpenter) and the book indicates 3.
Benjamin and Coles F. are the different children.
GRAVE:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=23471596
Caroline M. Carpenter
Birth: unknown
Death: Jun. 17, 1885 Inscription: Wife of Latting Carpenter, aged 40 yrs. 3 mos. 12 ds Burial: Saint Pauls Episcopal Church Cemetery Glen Cove Nassau County New York, USA Created by: Donna Record added: Dec 18, 2007 Find A Grave Memorial# 23471596
26460.
Wallace Carpenter
Number 1746 in the "Carpenter Family in America" book by Daniel H. Carpenter
(1901). No family listed in book. This family line supplied by John L.
Carpenter (born 1945) of NH. (11/96)
26461.
Lillian Carpenter
Number 1747 in the "Carpenter Family in America" book by Daniel H. Carpenter
(1901). No family listed in book. This family line supplied by John L.
Carpenter (born 1945) of NH. (11/96)
E-MAIL: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 From: "John L. Carpenter"
> Children of william robedee and lillian carpenter are:
> i. Charles Coles Robedee, born March 16, 1890; died July 30, 1890.
> ii. Ronald R Robedee, born February 20, 1891; died September 19, 1891.
> iii. George Wilfred Robedee(Sr), born April 25, 1894; died August 05, 1957.
> iv. Edith May Robedee, born May 10, 1896. She married Harold Greene.
> v. Ethel Louise Robedee, born December 30, 1898. She married Bernard Noonan.
> vi. William Brenton Robedee, born May 15, 1904; died August 29, 1979.
> vii. Lee Carpenter Robedee, born December 01, 1908; died November 01, 1985.
> viii. Guy McCoun Robedee, born October 22, 1910; died 1958. He married Grace
Arms.
> Source's :
> http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/e/r/Carol-ann-Berry/GENE5-0004.html
> Carol Ann Berry
> 2905 Brookside Dr.
> Iowa City, Iowa 52245
> United States
> cedartree2@juno.com
> Generation No. 2
> 2. SR. GEORGE WILFRED30 ROBEDEE (LILLIAN C.29 CARPENTER, LATTING28, COLES27,
LATTING26, COLES25, BENJAMIN24, NATHANIEL23, JOSEPH22, WILLIAM #121, RICHARD20,
ROBERT19, WILLIAM18, ROBERT17, RICHARD16, WILLIAM15, JOHN THE YOUNGER14, JOHN
THE ELDER13, RICHARD12, JOHN OR JEAN11 LE CARPENTIER, MAURICE10 CARPENTIER,
JEAN9 LE CARPENTIER, SIGER8, ELGAN7 CARPENTER, AILRIC6, RALPH5, GODWIN4,
WILLIAM "THE CARPENTER" DE MELUN3 (CARPENTER), WILLIAM2 DE MELUN, HERVE1) was
born April 25, 1894 in LI,NY., and died August 05, 1957. He married RUTH NOYES
Abt. 1937.
> Children of GEORGE ROBEDEE and RUTH NOYES are:
> i. COLES31 ROBEDEE, b. 1929.
> ii. FRANCIS I. ROBEDEE, b. January 12, 1938; d. 1941.
> iii. GEORGE WILFRED ROBEDEE, b. January 16, 1938; m. DIANA PROCINO; b.
January 19, 1943.
William Bennett Robedee
Fw: Carpenter,Lillian
Date: 99-02-13 From: jcarp45@top.monad.net (John in NH)
TO: John R. Carpenter
I think they have me mixed with You ?
-----Original Message-----
From: Cedartre@aol.com
To: jcarp45@top.monad.net <------- now at: Johnlsaywhat@aol.com
Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 11:56 AM
Subject: Carpenter,Lillian
>Dear John,
>I'm writing as a mutual interest in the William B. Robedee,Carpenter
>marriage.I am related by a 1st marriage of his father John ROBERDEE,1814.
>Willliam Bennett Roberdee, 8/11/1868 was married to Lillian Carpenter, and
>he died 1/4/1961.
>The father John Roberdee was 1st married to Sarah Bond?, came to Iowa in the
>1850s with 5 children. He returned to NY and 2nd married Susan McCoo
Bennett.
>John died 5/27/1900. John and Susan had one son,William Bennett Robedee.
>In 1980 George Robedee in Farmingdale,NY started an extensive search for
>the Robedee surname and has collected a huge amount of information. The
>various spellings have slowed things down as far as finding the Charles
>Robedee/Roberdee who came from France about 1790(birth date abt. 1775)
>There are several of us searching and hoping you might have come across
>something that would help. We can add to your information of Lillian
>Carpenter/Robedee. Thanks
>Carol Ann Roberdee/berry-Iowa Roberdee'sChildren of William Robedee and Lillian Carpenter are:
i. Charles Coles Robedee, born March 16, 1890; diedJuly 30, 1890.
ii. Ronald R Robedee, born February 20, 1891; diedSeptember 19, 1891.
iii. George Wilfred Robedee (Sr), born April 25, 1894; died August 05, 1957.
iv. Edith May Robedee, born May 10, 1896. She married Harold Greene.
v. Ethel Louise Robedee, born December 30, 1898. She married Bernar d Noonan.
vi. William Brenton Robedee, born May 15, 1904; died August 29, 1979.
vii. Lee Carpenter Robedee, born December 01, 1908; died Novembe r 01, 1985.
viii. Guy McCoun Robedee, born October 22, 1910; died 1958. He marrie d Grace Arms.
Source's : http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/e/r/Carol-ann-Berry/GENE5-0004.html
E-MAIL:
From: Wallpaper Johnlsaywhat@aol.com
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 3:16 PM
To: jrcrin001@gmail.com
Subject: Susan McCoon Halstead 1870 - 1945 FYI
My grt grandmother wife of Coles Carpenter 1872 - 1945
DEATH: City location uncertain.
Hello John, Some years back we were in touch. I have come across a newsclip of Susie Halstead who lived with her grandparents-Mr and Mrs Roberdee in 1887 before she married to Coles. She had run off to a Theatrical company at age 16. They, Susie & grandparent's, lived in Roslyn at the time. Somehow she has got the last name of McCoon tacked on but she is a Halstead-Father George Halstead (1846) and mother Sarah (1845) -living in North Hempstead, Queens co in 1880. A Grandmother, Susan Halstead is living with them age 60 bn NY. A Robedee descendant has Coles deceased in 1945 in Freeport, and Susie deceased in 1945 Jamaica. Do you have anymore on this couple Thanks if you can help Carol Ann Berry (descend from Roberdee's in Iowa) Cedartre@aol.com (9/09)
When Lillian Carpenter married to Willliam Bennett Roberdee-his parents were John Roberdee and Susan McCoun Bennett. I am from John Roberdee's 1st marriage to Sarah Bond to come to Iowa. John is only one to keep the R in Robedee/Roberdee. All the New York people dropped the R sometime around 1900.....I am trying to figure out which Roberdee grandparents this clip is talking about since Lillian was not married to William until 1889 and would not be granparent's anyway-so would you think it is John and Susan Bennett/Roberdee that she lived with Carol Berry The New York Times Published October 19, 1887 A WAYWARD GIRL Miss Susie Halstead, a handsome girl, 16 years old, who resided with her grandparents, Mr. and Mrs. Roberdee, in Roslyn, Long Island, has disappeared from Home, and, it is supposed, has gone to join a theatrical troupe. This is her second disappearance within three weeks. She left home a little over two weeks ago, and after several days was found by a detective in this city. A day or two after this Miss Halstead attempted to cut her throat in the presence of her granadparents. Then she became apparently contented, but on Monday, without any warning, she started off, and nothing has since been seen or heard of her. During the Summer Miss Halstead made the acquaintance of some members of a theatrical company who were boarding in Roslyn, and whose stories of an actress's life aroused in her a desire to go upon the stage. It is thought she has gone to find some of these people.
Caroline
NAME: Name not known. Possibly two wives!
26463.
Coles F. Carpenter
Probably died young.
26464.
Benjamin Carpenter
Probably died young.
Amelia Huffinger Reid
CENSUS: 1900 US Census
Name: Emilia Carpenter
Number of Living Children: 2
Years Married: 7
Birth Date: Feb 1843
Birthplace: New York
Marriage Year (Estimated): 1893
Immigration Year:
Father's Birthplace: New York
Mother's Birthplace: New York
Mother of how many children: 2
26466.
Margaret Carpenter
Step-daughter to Latting, from wife's previous marriage.
16815.
Thomas Dunham Carpenter
Number 1335 in the Carpenter Family in America book (1901).
Thomas was murdered on his sailing ship 12 Dec. 1887 by a hired hand.
Thomas was born on the old Carpenter homestead in Glen Cove, Long Island, New York. His parents were Coles and Martha (Tuttle) Carpenter. The homestead in the village of Sea Cliff now. Thomas was brought up with the sea. His father and uncle were ship owners in the sailing community as were their ancestors as far back as 1740's. As a teenager, in Sept 1862, he enlisted in the Union Armies 5th Heavy Artillery Co "C" at a New York rally along with his brother George. Thomas was discharged in Sept 1863. Thomas was afflicted with chronic kidney ailment and rheumatism which was made worse by several overnight details in the rain. He married Elizabeth Velsor at Syosset Long Island and returned home to live. He worked up seniority and became senior skipper of his uncle's ship the "Long Island". In Sept 1865 his daughter Aida died at 8 months of age. In 1866 Elizabeth died of consumption. In 1868 he married Hannah Strong at New York City. After a short time Thomas learned of her unfaithfulness to him and applied for a divorce. Finally on January 16,1876 a divorce was granted. Thomas married Christina Nielson. She was 16 years old and he was now 38 years old. Their marriage was rough. They lived at Christina's parents home in Brooklyn, NY. There were financial difficulties plus Thomas was out to sea frequently. They separated in 1884. Thomas lived most of the time on his Uncle's ship. He was murdered by Henry Francke on November 20,1886. He was 48 years old five feet eight and weighed 180 lbs with gray hair & a mustach. His body was found on May 28,1887 by local fisherman at Matinecock. The body had seven bullet holes and one leg and one arm were missing, presumed eaten away by fish. There was evidence that the body had been anchored down by the murderer. There was one dollar bill found in his pocket.Henry Francke confessed on his death bed of the murder. He was long suspected but never tried. He stated he was long haunted by what he described as the dead captain's ghost. The disagreement was regarding his pay. Captain Thomas Carpenter's remains were interred in the family plot in sea Clif, Long Iasland, NY. He was survived by his parents, three brothers, four sisters and his wife Christina. - From "Murder On The High Sea" by John L. Carpenter.
ARTICLE:
The following supplied by: John L. Carpenter of New Hampshire.
"Murder On The High Sea"
by John L. Carpenter
Sunday morning came as any other morning to this small sailing
community. It was November 21,1886 and the community was preparing for
the
thanksgiving holiday. Glen Cove, New York is located on the north coast of
Long Island situated near the mouth of Hempstead Harbor. On this
particular Sunday morning, Mr. C.L.Perkins was taking a morning stroll along
the beach
front when he noticed a schooner with all sails set. Mr.Perkins called out
several times and received no reply. Upon further exploration he found that
things were scattered about the cabin and there appeared to be bloodstains
on the deck and other areas. Mr. Perkins notified the local police.
After investigating the police concluded that the schooner was the
"Long Island" owned by James S. Carpenter & Sons. It had been sailed by
Mr. Carpenter's nephew Thomas Dunham Carpenter of Sea Cliff, New York. It was
determined that the stains on the schooner deck and other areas wereblood, and signs of a struggle had taken place. Also there was a small amount of money left in the cabin area. The captain's trunk was not tampered with. The schooner could not have run ashore on its own at the place it did because of all the rocks about. The captain was missing. There was no doubt
that he set sail from New York City on Sunday afternoon, November 20,1886.
Its was not known if he was alone. The captain was last seen off Sands Point, about five miles west of where the schooner was found, by Capt. Peters of the tug boat "Glen Cove". Capt. Peters stated he saw the captain at the wheel and had not noticed anyone else about. Also missing was the boatman (1st-mate) Henry Francke. He had only been employed for the last two months. After Brooklyn police were notified they brought Mr. Francke to their 55th Street Station House for questioning. He had been staying athis mother's house at 611 Humboldt St. At the arraignment he gave thefollowing statement: "I shipped with Capt. Carpenter two months ago. We two managed
the schooner. I had a disagreement with Capt. Carpenter about my pay when
we left Glen Cove for New York City on Thursday last. I told him that I would leave him unless I get more pay. I received my months wages after we arrived in New York City, then I left the schooner. On Saturday I went to Jay Street Pier where the schooner was lying to see if the captain would give me more pay. He wouldn't so I went away. He then took the schooner out alone. I went off to my sister's house and slept the Saturday night there and to my mothers on Sunday. I know nothing of what has come of Captain Carpenter." Mr. Francke was transferred to Glen Cove lockup for further questioning and arraignment before Justice Frost at Glen Cove. This transfer has caused some questions as well as controversy in Brooklyn and by the Queens County authorities. It is believed, by Queens County authorities that the taking of the prisoner, Henry Francke, to Glen Cove was not approved by the queens county authorities. It is also uncertain that Glen Cove police actually have jurisdiction of this case, there being
no actual proof to the locality of this crime. it would have been better, Brooklyn residents felt, if the investigation took place in Brooklyn,where there is a trained detective force. the follow up on clues could have been done in a more professional manner. Mr. Francke could have obtained the attendance of witnesses' At small expense if he was innocent.
On Friday, November 26,1886 Mr. Francke was brought before Justice Frost in Glen Cove. Mr. Flemming was district attorney prosecuting the case. as a result Mr. Francke was discharged because of insufficient evidence against him. Afterward he was held as a witness and privately examined . The results were not made public. Of course at this time there is no positive proof that Capt. Carpenter had been murdered and no body found. It is assumed by authorities that the captain was murdered, robbed, and thrown overboard. Then the perpetrators took the schooner to shore, where they made their escape, after putting out the fire in the forward cabin by pouring water over the coals. Some New York City authorities believe that river pirates could have committed this crime. A $50.00 reward is offered for the recovery of the body of Capt. Thomas D. Carpenter's body. He was 48 years old five feet eight inches tall, weighing onehundred and eighty pounds, with gray hair and a mustache.
Capt. Carpenter's Body Found
The mystery of the disappearance of Capt. Thomas D. Carpenter of the schooner "Long Island" was put to a end this day (May 28,1887) local
fisherman were walking to their fishing spot at Matinecock on the northern shore of Glen Cove where they came across a body that had apparently washed ashore. Local police were called to the scene. upon investigation of the body it was determined ,that the body had seven bullet holes and one leg
and one arm missing; presumed eaten away by fish. There was evidence that the body had been anchored down by the murderer(s). Also there was a one dollar bill found in his pocket. He was later identified as the missing schooner Captain, Thomas Carpenter. A private funeral was held and the remains were interred in the family plot in Sea Cliff, Long Island, N.Y.
"Obituary"
Thomas Dunham Carpenter was born August 20, 1838. His parents were Coles and Martha (Tuttle) Carpenter. Thomas was born on the old Carpenter
homestead in Glen Cove, Long Island, New York. The homestead is the village
of Sea Cliff now. Thomas was brought up with the sea. His father and uncle were ship owners the sailing community as were their ancestors as far back as 1740's. Thomas helped his dad and his uncle on their schooners As a teenager, in Sept. 1862, he enlisted in the Union Armies 5th Heavy Artillery Co. "C" at a New York rally along with his brother George.Thomas was discharged in Sept. 1863. Thomas was afflicted with chronic kidney ailment and rheumatism which was made worse by several overnight detailsin
the rain. Shortly after his return he began working in coastal ship operations for his uncle James S. Carpenter. It was abound this time that he married Elizabeth Velsor at Syosset Long Island and returned home to live. He worked up seniority and became senior skipper of his uncle's ship the "Long Island." In September 1865 his daughter Aida died at 8 months of age. In 1866 Elizabeth died of consumption. In 1868, he married Hannah Strong at New York City. After a short time Thomas learned of her unfaithfulness to him and applied for a divorce. Finally on January 16,
1876 a divorce was granted. Thomas married Christina Nielson. She was 16 years old, he was now 28 years old. Their marriage was rough. They lived at Christina's parents home in Brooklyn New York. There was financial difficulties plus Thomas was out to sea frequently or down to the piers
with his friends drinking heavily. After several years of difficulties,
Christina and Thomas separated in 1884. Thomas lived most of the time on his Uncle's ship. It was his dream to some day own his own ship and have his own business but this dream came abruptly to a end on November 20, 1886. He is survived by his parents, 3 brothers, 4 sisters, and his wife Christina.
Addendum
It has been reported that Henry Francke who was long suspected of murdering Captain Thomas Carpenter, confessed on his death bed of the murder. He stated he was long haunted by what he described as the dead captain's ghost. Perhaps Mr. Francke was fearful of retaliation in the
after life? Other details of his confession were not readily known.
The author of this article is John L. Carpenter
BIBLIOGRAPHY
"A Mysterious Affair," The Sea Cliff News, Sea Cliff, New York November 27,1886
"Blood Stained Schooner" The Roslyn News ,Roslyn, New York November 27, 1886.
"Capt. Carpenter's Body Found ,The Roslyn News, Roslyn, New York, May 28,1887
Carpenter, Daniel H., History & Genealogy Of The Carpenter Family, From The Settlement At
Providence, Rhode Island, The Marion Press, Jamaica, New York, 1901.
"River Pirates", The Brooklyn Eagle, Brooklyn New York November 24,1886
Smith, Cecilia Mrs., family bible records, Glenwood Landing, New York, 1989
Weidman, Bettes. & Martin, Linda b. ,Nassau County ,Long Island In Early Photographs, 1869-1940, Dover Publications, New York, 1981.
Union Pension Records of Christina Carpenters application in 1925.His Schooner was discovered Nov 21, 1886 on beach of Glenn Cove NY. It had been apparent it was navigated there because of all the rocks and no damage done to the schooner.
May 28 1887 his body was discovered in a another part of Glen Cove,called Matinicock Point North east of where the schooner was found.It was apparent after autopsy results were in Thomas was shot 7 times and thrown overboard.
Thomas was a veteran of the civil war 5th Heavy Art Co. E of the NY Volunteers he joined with his brother George Coles Carpenter.
SOURCES:
The SEA CLIFF NEWS-- 27 Nov 1886
The ROSLYN NEWS--28 May 1886
The BROOKLYN EAGLE---24 Nov 1886
UNION PENSION RECORDS OF THOMAS D. CARPENTER applied for on behalf of Christina Carpenter in 1925.
NEWPAPER CITES:
New York Tribune, Tuesday November 23, 1886
WHO KILLED CAPTAIN CARPENTER?
THE SAILOR HENRY P. FRANK ARRESTED
HE SAYS HE DID NOT GO ON THE SCHOONER—RIVER THIEVES SUGGESTED.
Henry P. Frank, who, It was thought, had murdered Captain Carpenter, of the schooner Long Island, off Glen Cove have Saturday or Sunday morning, was arrested yesterday and taken to the Seventh Precinct Police Station in Brooklyn. He told the police that he did not sail In the vessel from Jay St. This makes the police begin to think that if the captain was really murdered, it must have been by pirates or river thieves. James Carpenter, of Sea Cliff, the owner of the schooner, said yesterday that the man (Frank) had been employed on the vessel only about three months, and that the captain said a short time ago that he was afraid of him and would discharge him. When the captain sailed from New York on Saturday afternoon he had $100. The place where the schooner was found, on Sunday morning, is about three miles from Sea Cliff and nobody unacquainted with the shore at that point and the handling of boats could have brought her there without her being Injured. His schooner was seen as he passed Fort Schuyler at 5 Saturday evening.
Captain L. Carpenter, of Glen Cove, a brother of the murdered man said, “That no one man would have dared to assault his brother, who was six feet high and weighed 200 pounds.” “Early Sunday morning,” he continued, “two strange men were seen passing through the village of Glen Cove and going toward the railroad depot.”
The news of Frank's arrest at Greenpoint yesterday drew a large crowd of people to the railway station who expected to see the prisoner. Among them was C. Carpenter, the murdered man’s Father, who is eighty years old. The captain's trunk, which was found in the schooner's cabin, was locked when found, and the detectives have placed boards over the blood stains on the vessel's hull. When the discovery was first made the blood marks were dry and the fire in the galley stove had only just been put out. The captain's wife, father and four brothers live in Brooklyn and they have all followed a sea-faring life.
It is thought by Glen Cove people that Carpenter was watched by thieves who saw him leave this city alone and that they followed him, boarded the vessel, killed him and then threw his body overboard. A sharp watch Is being kept along the shore, and a reward will be offered for the finding of the body.
Frank, who is suspected of the murder, was arrested by Detective Doulin and Ayres yesterday morning at his mother's house. No. 811 Humboldt St., Williamsburg. He was asleep In bed, when Detective Doulin shook him and said " You're wanted for having murdered a man." “What!?” exclaimed Frank. jumping up in a hair stupid way.
"Has Tom given me away?” He was nervous and excited and when he grew more composed he said that he was paid off on Friday and went to the pier at Jay St. on Saturday, when he saw the Captain take the schooner up atone. He then returned, he says, to his mother's house at Greenpoint. After this statement Frank was locked up In the police station. His mother said to the detectives that he was a bad man and that this was not the first accusation upon which he had been in trouble.
Coles A. Carpenter, a cousin of the murdered man, has organized parties both at Glen Cove and Coney Island who will explore the rivers and see if there is anything in the theory that river thieves committed the murder.
When Frank was brought before Justice Nacher, previous to being committed to jail, he looked fret-fallen.
He is of medium height, slender and not more than twenty-six years old. On seeing Coles A. Carpenter he turned pale, but recovering himself quickly and in response to Mr. Carpenters observation: “Do you know me? Yes, certainly," and offered to shake hands with him. He waived examination and was taken to the Raymond Street Jail, his mother and sister crying and embracing him as he left the court.
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> A letter that may serve to throw some Light on the > mystery was received a: the HERALD office yester- > day. It Is unsigned. and although purporting to > come from. one of the assailants of Captain Carpenter > appears to be In the hand writing of a woman. The > letter is word for word as follows: > New York, Nov. 23„ 11886 > Der sear to theHerald Building or office: > I will rite to you a few lines In the matter of Capt. > Thomas D Carpenter and Henry Frank. Henry Frank is all to blame about It. > for he was to see me and told me togo for him for he had about two hendar > and fithy dolars > in cash. he knew of it was tO set sail for Glen cove > Saturday afternoon. I got about to harlem and my pardner went for him at > sands point about dark.. > Frank did not go with us as agreed. > We Went aboard or the Schooner Long Island With Capt T D Carpenter and > said “where is firank!" I left him to New York." Frank > told me to ask you, for *gob (a job) but I don’t Want no > gob. Then I and my pardners demanded the Capt money. > he said I have not got any money and then grabin a pole > and stricken me with it over the head andthe pole > broke in two peaces, and I settled with him it after. > I made Capt put the schooner on the beach below Glen > Cove dock. l made capt T D Carpenter to swim if he could. I and my pardner > wanted him to the bottom > Henry Frank, was much marter about money. I pound > him thirty five dollars in bills eleven in silver coin. I > would not done It for that amount if Frank hadent told > me about two hundred and fifty. I went to Glen cove > for that. I saw the paper and said that ha runaway. I will swair he never > run away for could not walk, let > lone runing away with twenty shot in him. Capt T D > Carpenter Is one mile of shore from sands Point in > Harbor. > I will tell more after this. > Captain Jacob Carpenter, a brother of the missing > man. and "Coly" Carpenter, another more distant > relative were shown this letter yesterday and they both agreed that the > writer must be acquainted with the details of the missing captains fate . > “I am satisfied that Captain Tom was shot” said Capt “Jake” “ as the > blood spots on deck were so very small.” > Captain T.D. Carpenter's effects were overhauled and this letter compared > with one that he had revived from > “your girl “ and the writing and spelling seemed somewhat similar. Still > the Captains fate is yet a mystery. Since his body has not been recovered.
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Clews to Carpenter's Fate
Blood Stained Trousers Said to be Frank's Found in the Yawl
a Reward for the Body
Clews to Carpenter's Fate Blood Stained Trousers Said to be Frank's Found in the Yawl
the Date: Wednesday, November 24, 1886 New York Herald newspaper: (New York, New York) Issue: 18356 ---------------------------------------------------------------
Captain Carpenter, the Missing Man's Brother, Holds to the Murder Theory.
A REWARD FOR THE BODY
The fate of Captain Thomas D. Carpenter. Who has been missing from his schooner. the Long, Island.,
since last saturday night or Sunday morning is still a mystery.
His brothers believe him murdered.. Several private detectives who have been employed by the relatives concerned yesterday visited the schooner as she lay afloat off Red Springs. near Glen Cove. Where,she had been found deserted with sails set,on the beach, and satisfied themselves that the blood spots on the stern deck and on the freshly broken ."setting pole' as well as upon the stool that the steersman had used for a seat were the result of a murderous assault.
No accident could have spirited the captain away and left such traces as they found, quote the detetectives.
RUMORS OF A HOAX EXPLORED
Those o the Glen Cove villagers who were not informed as to the facts gathered yesterday by Captain Jacob Carpenter hare begun to circulate yarns about the possibility of the absent captain being gone on a spree. “Somebody has started the story that my brother was missing some time ago.” for a long while said Captain Jacob Carpenter. and that he turned up all right, In the spring. That is a. false hood from beginning to end. He left his own schooner for a time and stopped with me on mine for a little while only, and that is the foundation for the absurd rumor. I tell you be has been murdered," Captain Jacob Carpenter was very earnest in what he said and when asked his reason for believing
that a tragic end had come to his brother said it—, "Henry T. Frank says that be had a row with Car-tain Carpenter and did not sail with him from Jay street last Saturday on that account. Is that con. Peet? Yes? Well„ Frank also states that he saw Captain Carpenter sail away with his schooner alone? lire% Now there-, for my reasons. Captain Peat's of the tug Glen Cove, tells me that be passed the Long Island Saturday evening and he clistinctly raw three men on board the schooner, I also have it from several very reputable men. whose names I do not think it advisable to disclose just at present, that Frank threatened the captain several, times.'
THREATS OF VIOLENCE,
What was the nature of the threats was asked of Captain Jacob Carpenter. . Frank you know, was employed at deckhand on the schooner. Several times he got drunk and the captain ordered him ashore both at New 'York and here at Glen Coves On each of these occasions Frank swore that if the captain discharged him he—the captain—would never leave his schooner alive.
" BLOOD STAINED TR0SERS'
Have you discovered any additional evidences of assault The captain was averse to answering this question at first, but finally consented to talk on the subject "A, pair of trousers was found in the yawl at the 'stern of the schooner." said the captain, and the front of them from the knees down was covered with blood." 'Do you mean that the captain was stripped of his clothing and thrown overboard ?
Oh, no, answered the captain with a. grant of satisfaction. The trousers had been worn by Frank. They were Frank's trousers." The captain slapped his hands together emphatically and his eyes sparkled with enthusiasm. "And the trousers were not entirely within the yawl.” Part of them hung overboard and lay in the careless position that they 'would nave assumed If thrown out of the cabin door.. To my mind whoever had on those trousers at the time of the murder took them off In the schooner cabin and throw them overboard. as he supposed. He did not for a moment think that the trousers would catch on the yawl. Oh no. it was intended that they should sink out of sight." As a suit of the missing captain's clothes are missing. this bit of evidence appeared to Captain Jacob Carpenter to be very important,
FRANK'S MASONIC PIN
And do you see this little pin?" added Captain Jacob, taking a small Masonic pin marked with a large With a large initial "G" from his pocket. "Mr.. Coles Carpenter, a cousin of Captain Thomas Carpenter, the missing man ,gave that pin to Franke and on Sunday a week ago I saw Frank trying to fasten the pin on a new heavy vest. Well. sir. today I found this pin on top of Frank's trunk in the schooners cabin." Continuing in his convincing way Captain Jacob Carpenter said that he believed the two men who were seen by the night watchman of Glen Cove, with bundles under their arms. going through the streets of that village" were the murderers, How they got on board the schooner he could not tell, but it was his own opinion that 'whoever murdered the captain met him in the East river in a rowboat.
“HE HAD STRUCK A MINE”
Henry T. Frank, who was arrested for the crime at his mother's residence, No,611 Humboldt street, Brooklyn, E. D., Monday morning was arraigned before Justice Naeller. of Brooklyn yesterday and given In charge of Deputy Sheriff Avers.; on a warrant Issued by Justice Frost, of Glen Cove. The prisoner was hagard in appearance aid wept bitterly, he was locked up In the Queens County Jail. He will be taken to Glen Cove for examination before Justice Frost today.
Detective Donum ,of the seventh precinct ( Brooklyn police station.) has visited several places where Frank spent his time last Sunday and learned that while under the influence of Liquor Frank displayed more money' than he was wont to have in his possession. and said that ho bad "struck a mine."
This statement by Frank's sister that be was seen in Greenpoint" concluded Captain Jacob Carpenter. may be all right In it self. but there is a train" that leaves Glen Cove at thirteen minutes to eleven on Saturday evenings, as stated in the HERALD this morning. and be could have taken that train and reached Greenpoint at five minutes to twelve"
“REWARD FOR CARPENTER'S BODY”
The following notice Is to be posted all along the coasts of Long Island today::
$ 50 REWARD.
Thee above reward will be paid for the recovery of the body of (CAPTAIN THOMAS D. CARPENTER of the Schooner Long Island. Who is believed to have been killed and his body thrown overboard on the night or morning of the 20th or 21st between Old Ferry Point and Glen Cove. Captain Thomas D. Carpenter was about five feet eight in height weighed about 180 pounds; Hair very gray, and mustache, and Is marked with a very distinctive saber wound across the ,small of his back. Any Information concerning the same will be thankfully received by Capt JACOB CARPENTER„ Sea Cliff, L.I. Dated Nov 23, 1886
The conductor of the train on the Long Island railroad that left Glen Core at about ten o'clock last Saturday night has not been seen by the authorities. It is believed that ho ought to be able to Identitfy the passengers who got on his train at that point, as It is not customary to pick up passengers at that hour.
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"Capt. Carpenter's Body Found ,The Roslyn News, Roslyn, New York, May
28,1887
Capt. Carpenter's Body Found
The mystery of the disappearance of Capt. Thomas D. Carpenter of the schooner "Long Island" was put to a end this day (May 28,1887) local fisherman were walking to their fishing spot at Matinecock on the northern shore of Glen Cove where they came across a body that had apparently washed ashore. Local police were called to the scene. upon investigation of the body it was determined ,that the body had seven bullet holes and one leg and one arm missing; presumed eaten away by fish. There was evidence that the body had been anchored down by the murderer(s). Also there was a one dollar bill found in his pocket. He was later identified as the missing schooner Captain, Thomas Carpenter. A private funeral was held and the remains were interred in the family plot in Sea Cliff, Long Island, N.Y.
"Obituary"
Thomas Dunham Carpenter was born August 20 , 1838. His parents were Coles and Martha (Tuttle) Carpenter. Thomas was born on the old Carpenter homestead in Glen Cove, Long Island, New York. The homestead is the village of Sea Cliff now. Thomas was brought up with the sea. His father and uncle
were ship owners the sailing community as were their ancestors as far back as 1740's. Thomas helped his dad and his uncle on their schooners As a teenager, in Sept. 1862, he enlisted in the Union Armies 5th Heavy Artillery Co. "C" at a New York rally along with his brother George.Thomas was discharged in Sept. 1863. Thomas was afflicted with chronic kidney ailment and rheumatism which was made worse by several overnight details in the rain.
Shortly after his return he began working in coastal ship operations for his uncle James S. Carpenter. It was abound this time that he married Elizabeth Velsor at Syosset Long Island and returned home to live. He worked up seniority and became senior skipper of his uncle's ship the "Long Island." In September 1865 his daughter Aida died at 8 months of age.
In 1866 Elizabeth died of consumption. In 1868, he married Hannah Strong at New York City. After a short time Thomas learned of her unfaithfulness to him and applied for a divorce. Finally on January 16, 1876 a divorce was granted. Thomas married Christina Nielson. She was 16 years old, he was now 28 years old. Their marriage was rough. They lived at Christina's parents home in Brooklyn New York. There was financial difficulties plus Thomas was out to sea frequently or down to the piers with his friends drinking heavily. After several years of difficulties, Christina and Thomas separated in 1884. Thomas lived most of the time on his Uncle's ship. It was his dream to some day own his own ship and have his own business but this dream came abruptly to a end on November 20, 1886. He is survived by his parents, 3 brothers, 4 sisters, and his wife Christina.
SOURCE:
"Capt. Carpenter's Body Found ,The Roslyn News, Roslyn, New York, May 28,1887
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Trenton evening News (Trenton N.J.)
MATE HENRY FRANK TO BE ARRESTED AGAIN,
Coroner Hall, of Glen Cove, L I., began an inquest yesterday upon the case of Captain Thomas D. Carpenter, who is supposed to have been murdered on board of his schooner Long Island on November 20, and whose body floated ashore at Glen Cove last week. After several witness had testified as to the, condition of the schooner when found, Captain Henry Abrams, of Whites tone told the jury that on Saturday, November 19, he saw the schooner off Flagg's Neck with two men on board, This statement convinced the listeners that the dead captain had taken Henry Frank, the mate of the schooner, aboard and a warrant was Immediately Issued for Frank's arrest, as a witness, and given to Detective James Ayers to execute. Samuel A. Adams a New York stevedore next testified that he saw Henry A. Frank assisting the dead captain to get his vessel out of port from the foot of Jay-st. on November I8. The inquest is continued today.
The Murder Theory Confirmed
By Associated Press to THE TIMES
GLEN Cove, L. I., May 25.—Dr. Watson who made the autopsy on the body of Captain Thomas D. Carpenter, which was found a short time ago, after having been in the water for more than six months says Captain Carpenter was not drowned. But was undoubtedly dead before he was put in the water. This confirms the theory that he was murdered by a person who was on board of the schooner Long Island with him when he sailed from New York Nov. 18, and who, after robbing him of a large amount of money and his watch, threw his body overboard and ran the vessel ashore at Sea Cliff; where it .was found two days afterward.
The Murder Theory Confirmed
By Associated Press to THE TIMES GLEN Cove, L. I., May 25.—
Dr. Watson who made the _autopsy on the body of Cap fain Thomas E. Carpenter, which was found a short time ago, after having been in the water for more than six mouths says Captain Carpenter was not drowned. But was undoubtedly dead before he was put in the water. This confirms the theory that he was murdered by a person who was on board of the schooner Long Island with him when he sailed from New York Nov. 18, and who, after robbing him of a large amount of money and his watch, threw his body overboard and ran the vessel ashore at Sea Cliff; where it .was found two days afterward
SOURCE:
By Associated Press to the Times (New York)
Trenton evening News (Trenton N.J.)
New Haven Register (New Haven, CT )
May 25, 1887
GRAVE:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=16005649
Thomas Dunham Carpenter
Birth: Aug. 20, 1838
Glen Cove
Nassau County
New York, USA
Death: Nov. 20, 1886
Glen Cove
Nassau County
New York, USA
Thomas was born on the old Carpenter homestead in Glen Cove, Long Island, New York. His parents were Coles and Martha (Tuttle) Carpenter. The homestead in the village of Sea Cliff now. Thomas was brought up with the sea. His father and uncle were ship owners in the sailing community as were their ancestors as far back as 1740's. As a teenager, in Sept 1862, he enlisted in the Union Armies 5th Heavy Artillery Co "C" at a New York rally along with his brother George. Thomas was discharged in Sept 1863. Thomas was afflicted with chronic kidney ailment and rheumatism which was made worse by several overnight details in the rain. He married Elizabeth Velsor at Syosset Long Island and returned home to live. He worked up seniority and became senior skipper of his uncle's ship the "Long Island". In Sept 1865 his daughter Aida died at 8 months of age. In 1866 Elizabeth died of consumption. In 1868 he married Hannah Strong at New York City. After a short time Thomas learned of her unfaithfulness to him and applied for a divorce. Finally on January 16,1876 a divorce was granted. Thomas married Christina Nielson. She was 16 years old and he was now 38 years old. Their marriage was rough. They lived at Christina's parents home in Brooklyn, NY. There were financial difficulties plus Thomas was out to sea frequently. They separated in 1884. Thomas lived most of the time on his Uncle's ship. He was murdered by Henry Francke on November 20,1886. He was 48 years old five feet eight and weighed 180 lbs with gray hair & a mustach. His body was found on May 28,1887 by local fisherman at Matinecock. The body had seven bullet holes and one leg and one arm were missing, presumed eaten away by fish. There was evidence that the body had been anchored down by the murderer. There was one dollar bill found in his pocket.Henry Francke confessed on his death bed of the murder. He was long suspected but never tried. He stated he was long haunted by what he described as the dead captain's ghost. The disagreement was regarding his pay. Captain Thomas Carpenter's remains were interred in the family plot in sea Clif, Long Iasland, NY. He was survived by his parents, three brothers, four sisters and his wife Christina. - From "Murder On The High Sea" by John L. Carpenter.
Family links:
Parents:
Coles Carpenter (1802 - 1891)
Elizabeth Tuttle Carpenter (1814 - 1891)
Burial:
Carpenter Cemetery
Sea Cliff
Nassau County
New York, USA
Created by: Judi Braddick
Record added: Oct 05, 2006
Find A Grave Memorial# 16005649
16817.
Jacob F. Carpenter
Number 1337 in the Carpenter Family in America book (1901).
Information supplied by Barbara Elizabeth Kardos (no date).
He captained sailing vessels for a living. He attended Sea Cliff Methodist
Church.
CENSUS: 1850 US Census - with parents
CENSUS: 1860 US Census
MARRIAGE: 1869
Name: Jacob Carpenter
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 27 Jun 1869
Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Registration Date:
Registration Year:
Registration Place:
Gender: Male
Age: 28
Marital Status: Single
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Birth Year (Estimated): 1841
Birthplace: Glenwood
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Spouse's Name: Maggie Delaney
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Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 20
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
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Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1849
Spouse's Birthplace: Ireland
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Reference ID: cn 4836
GS Film Number: 1544269
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Citing this Record:
"New York, New York City Marriage Records, 1829-1940," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24ZY-S69 : accessed 23 May 2016), Jacob Carpenter and Maggie Delaney, 27 Jun 1869; citing Marriage, Manhattan, New York, New York, United States, New York City Municipal Archives, New York; FHL microfilm 1,544,269.
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Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00586-1
System Origin: New_York-ODM
GS Film number: 1544269
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Citing this Record:
"New York Marriages, 1686-1980," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F6Q1-K6R : accessed 23 May 2016), Jacob Carpenter and Maggie E. Delaney, 27 Jun 1869; citing reference ; FHL microfilm 1,544,269.
CENSUS: 1870 US Census
CENSUS: 1880 US Census
Name: Jacob Carpenter
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1880
Event Place: Sea Cliff, Queens, New York, United States
District: ED 294
Gender: Male
Age: 39
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): W
Occupation: Sailor (Capt)
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Self
Birth Year (Estimated): 1841
Birthplace: New York, United States
Father's Birthplace: New York, United States
Mother's Birthplace: New York, United States
Note:
Sheet Letter: A
Sheet Number: 401
Sheet Number and Letter: 401A
Household ID: 11279180
Person Number: 0
Volume: 1
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: T9
Affiliate Film Number: 0919
GS Film Number: 1254919
Digital Folder Number: 005161599
Image Number: 00514
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Jacob Carpenter Self M 39 New York, United States
Maggie E Carpenter Wife F 26 New York, United States
Thomas G Carpenter Son M 5 New York, United States
Elizabeth Carpenter Daughter F 2 New York, United States
Leonard Rugner Other M 44 Germany
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZF4-BC2 : accessed 23 May 2016), Jacob Carpenter, Sea Cliff, Queens, New York, United States; citing enumeration district ED 294, sheet 401A, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 0919; FHL microfilm 1,254,919.
CENSUS: 1890 US Census - burned
CENSUS: 1900 US Census
CENSUS: 1910 US Census
Margaret E."Maggie" Delaney
She was educated in a convent. She died after 1910.
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In 1917 she was listed as Margaret Sevan on her son's WWI draft card. Did she remarry?
26469.
Sara Celia Carpenter
Not in the Carpenter Family in America book (1901).
Death date 18_8. Unknown which decade.
26470.
Elizabeth Carpenter
Not in the Carpenter Family in America book (1901).
Probably died young.
26472.
George Carpenter
Not in the Carpenter Family in America book (1901).
No further infomation known.
16819.
Ann Augusta Carpenter
Number 1339 in the Carpenter Family in America book (1901).
Joseph Simonson
CENSUS: 1880 United States Census
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
Joseph SIMONSON Self M Male W 41 NY Farmer NY NY
Ann SIMONSON Wife M Female W 41 NY Keeping House NY NY
Judith SIMONSON Dau S Female W 20 NY At Home NY NY
Catharine SIMONSON Dau S Female W 15 NY At School NY NY
Mary H. SIMONSON Dau S Female W 9 NY At School NY NY
Henry SIMONSON Father S Male W 80 NY NY NY
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Source Information:
Census Place Jamaica, Queens, New York City-Greater, New York
Family History Library Film 1254918
NA Film Number T9-0918
Page Number 626C