Information by Donald W. Carpenter (born 28 Apr. 1943) of Ontario, Canada.
"Death Notices from Christian Guardian" 1836-1850, Pages 57-58 which reads:
"Carpenter, Gershom was born in Sussex Co., N.J., Nov. 29, 1766, and came
to Canada, settling in Saltfleet twp. in 1787. In 1795, he married Sarah
Pettit. He died in Saltfleet twp., Jan. 15, 1845; survived by his wife,
5 sons and 2 daughters.
- April 23, 1845, p. 107, 0."In two records one of his children is listed as Jemima and in another record
as Jermiah.E-MAIL:
From: fredblairorillia@hotmail.com To: johnlsaywhat@aol.com Sent: 9/1/2013 8:03:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Carpenter family history query
John,
I found your posts in the Carpenter forum at ancestry.com. I am interested in the family history of Gershom and James Carpenter, the sons of Ashman Carpenter who died in 1789 in the Niagara area. I am writing veteran biographies for the men who served in the 5th Lincoln Militia during the War of 1812. I have the following bios:
Capt. Gershom Carpenter (1765-1845) @
He was born in Hopewell, New Jersey to Ashman Hope Carpenter and Mary Catherine Boyle. He married Sarah Pettit (1770-1847), the daughter of Charles Pettit and Mary Smith (Pati). In 1786, he arrived in Saltfleet Twp. (SCP). In 1794, he made a land petition. Since 1792, he had been in possession of Lot 7, Con. 2 and 3, Seventh Twp. and had made improvements on that land. On August 16, 1794, the petition was granted (U706). On October 1, 1798, John and Girsham Carpenter made a land petition as residents of Lincoln Co. In 1788, they arrived in the province with their father, Ashman Carpenter, who soon after became ill and unable to care for his family. The brothers had taken care of their family since and after their father’s death in 1789. Their father had located on 400 of the 500 acres allotted him. Several years after their father’s death, their elder brother, Alexander, had arrived in the province and claimed their father’s real property without supporting the family. As no deed had been issued for the 400 acres, John and Girsham requested a division of the property among the younger brothers (U707). In 1802, Gershom and John Carpenter received Lot 7, Con. 1 and 2 and Lots 16 and 17, Con. 2 in Saltfleet Twp. (GDM pg. 29). In 1804 he served in the 1st West Lincoln as an ensign (GDM pg. 22). He was stationed at Burlington Heights from September 17 to October 24, 1813 (5L168)(5L171)(5LGC1309). On September 26, 1815, he made a war claim, as a yeoman of Saltfleet Twp., for an ox which was impressed and died while in service on August 24, 1814. John Lewis of Grimsby certified the claim. In 1824, he resubmitted his war claim as a resident of Saltfleet Twp. (WC1300). He died in Grimsby (Pati).
Sgt. James Carpenter (1779-1813) @
...I have indices to the online documents for the land petitions, militia service, and war claims. Pati’s sources have not always been reliable and would like to confirm that information. I would also like to know both men’s birth dates, Sophia’s parentage, and further details on both men’s death and burial places. Both men appeared to have lived in Saltfleet Twp. during the war.
I have bios and sources for other men who lived in the area from Oakville to Hamilton, Ontario during the war.
Fred Blair
Orillia, Ontario, Canada
MORE:
The 4th Lincoln Militia was recruited from Clinton, Grimsby, Caistor, and Gainsborough Twp. It looks like Capt. William Carpenter was the brother of Capt. Gershom Carpenter of the 5th Lincoln Militia.GRAVE:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=132762216
Capt Gershom Carpenter
Birth: Nov. 29, 1765
New Jersey, USA
Death: Jan. 6, 1845
Grimsby
Ontario, Canada
Records indicate that Gershom came to Canada in 1787.
Family links:
Parents:
Ashman Hope Carpenter (1725 - 1786)
Mary Catherine Boyle Carpenter (1735 - 1815)
Spouse:
Sarah Pettit Carpenter (1770 - 1847)*
Children:
Sarah Carpenter (____ - 1823)*
Siblings:
Gershom Carpenter (1765 - 1845)
William Carpenter (1774 - 1853)*
James Carpenter (1779 - 1813)*
*Calculated relationship
Burial:
Saint Andrew's Anglican Church Cemetery
Grimsby
Niagara Regional Municipality
Ontario, Canada
Created by: Patricia Jackson
Record added: Jul 13, 2014
Find A Grave Memorial# 132762216
"Death Notices from Christian Guardian" 1836-1850, Pages 57-58 which reads:
"Carpenter, Mrs. Gershom, widow of the late Gershom Carpenter, died at
50-Mile-Creek, Saltfleet Twp. in Jan. 22, 1848 in her 70th year.
- April 12, 1848, p. 102, 0." See husband's notes.
DEATH: 22 Jan 1848 and 2 Dec 1847 in Grimsby, Grimsby Twp., Lincoln Co., ON., Canada per another record provided by Frank & Marilyn Crosswell of Windsor, ON Canada.Burial: The 50 Cemetery, Saltfleet Twp.,Grimsby, Wentworth Co., ON., Canada
Marriage Notices of Ontario - Reid.
NAME: Jemima in two records and Jermiah in another.
CHILDREN: & MARRIAGE provided by:
Frank & Marilyn Crosswell of Windsor, ON Canada.E-MAIL:
From: fredblairorillia@hotmail.com To: johnlsaywhat@aol.com Sent: 9/1/2013 9:27:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: RE: Carpenter family history query
John,
Thank you for the prompt reply and Gershom’s family tree. Charles intrigued me as he had received a war pension in 1875. I have a muster of about 700 men in the 5th Lincoln Militia but know that it is incomplete because documents have been lost. I have some material on the 4th Lincoln Militia where I found Charles and some other Carpenter men:
Private Ashman Carpenter (1795-1818)
...
Private Charles Carpenter (1796-)
...
Capt. William Carpenter
In 1804 he served as a captain in the 2nd Regiment of the West Riding of Lincoln County (GDM pg. 23). He served in the 4th Lincoln (OBF pg. 264). He served July 4 to 28, 1814 (4L1405)(4L1407).
These men are a lower priority for me, but I would like to know more about them. Please let me know if you want any of my sources. I have tagged the Carpenter bios with your email address so that I can update you if I learn more.
Fred
MORE:
The 4th Lincoln Militia was recruited from Clinton, Grimsby, Caistor, and Gainsborough Twp. It looks like Capt. William Carpenter was the brother of Capt. Gershom Carpenter of the 5th Lincoln Militia:
Capt. William Carpenter (c1761-) @
About 1761, William Carpenter was born in Hopewell, New Jersey to Ashman Carpenter and Mary Boyle. About 1786, he married Martha Smith, the daughter of Silas and Esther Smith. In 1799 he had a land grant in Grimsby Twp. (Car). In 1804 he served as a captain in the 2nd Regiment of the West Riding of Lincoln County (GDM pg. 23). He served in the 4th Lincoln (OBF pg. 264). He served July 4 to 28, 1814 (4L1405)(4L1407). He died in Winona (Car).
I have some War of 1812 indices. Gershom was the only one to make a war claim after the war. The Carpenter name was not recorded in my collection of militia historical notes. There should however be additional payroll records for the Carpenter men in the 4th Lincoln payroll documents which are online. I suspect that Capt. William Carpenter was present at the Battle of Lundy’s Lane on July 25 1814. I have not looked at most of these documents but estimate it would take one to two hours with high speed internet to review these documents. Please let me know if you want directions to these payrolls.
Fred
Information of Leslie Jay Carpenter (b. 1925) of Seattle Washington (4-1990),
Submitted by Donald W. Carpenter (born 28 Apr. 1943) of Ontario, Canada. Children order uncertain.Jerry Eugene Donovan (b. 1954) of Loveland, CO supplied updates to this family from a record he copied in March of 1997 that is called "History of the Carpenter Family as related by the late Joseph James Carpenter." This record was prepared by his daughter Nellie Carpenter-Patterson and recopied by James Webster Carpenter at Gary, Ind., another descendant in the Family Tree on June 26, 1912.
This record indicates that Joseph James and his wife lived in New Jersey until 1816 when they moved to Ontario (Canada West), Canada. All the family went with him except "brother Samuel" and "Sister Nancy at that time being married . . ." "My parents lived in Canada 8 years. They moved to Rochester, NY where my mother died in April 1824. My father never remarried again, lived with brother Samuel and others of his children until his death at
the home of his youngest John A. in Canada in 1851."
"Children all born in New Jersey except Elizabeth, Lydia and John."CHILD: Nancy listed in one record but not in another.
CHILD: Charles listed in one record but not in another. May be in wrong family.UPDATE: Submitted by Eric Carlson 18 May 2002.
Joseph Carpenter may have had Loyalist ties in that he and Margaret Hope moved to Ontario, Canada, in 1816 and stayed there for eight years; theythen moved to Rochester, New York, where Margaret Hope died in 1824. Joseph Carpenter was born about 1760 probably in Sussex County, New Jersey, but died in Ontario, Canada, about 1851 in the home of his son, Samuel Carpenter. They had 14 children in all who were born in New Jersey or Ontario, Canada.
-- R. Robert Mutrie Carpenter GenealogyJoseph lived in New Jersey and Pennsylvania then New York. He came with his wife to Upper Canada in 1816 and settled at Saltfleet Twp., Wentworth Co. Some of Joseph's children settled at Townsend Twp., Norfolk Co. and he joined them late in life.
The obitiuary of Joseph Carpenter appeared in the Christian Guardiannewspaper issue of 25 Jun 1851: "Joseph Carpenter was born in March,1769, in Essex County, N.J., got married in 1794 and joined thePresbyterian Church soon after that. In 1816, he came to Canada. He was converted at 50-Mile Creek in 1832, and joined the Methodist Church. His death occurred at Townsend township, May 9, 1851."
She married twice.
UPDATE: Submitted by Eric Carlson 18 May 2002.
Dunham Genealogy English and American Branches of the Dunham Family
Author: Isaac Watson Dunham
Call Number: R929.2 D917
The history and genealogy of the English and American Branches of theDunham Family.
Bibliographic Information: Dunham, Isaac Watson. Dunham Genealogy.English and American Branches of the Dunham Family. Bulletin Print.Norwich , Connecticut. 1907.EVENTS IN THE LIFE OF DEACON JOHN DUNHAM. He was born in the village ofScrooby, in Nottinghamshire, England, in the year 1588-9. He marriedAbigail Wood, who was distantly related to him. He was married in Leyden,Holland, Oct. 17, 1619, and their son John was born near the time ofdeparture of the Pilgrims for America, in 1620.
CHILDREN OF DEACON JOHN DUNHAM
XI. Benajah, the youngest child, was b. in 1640. He m. Elizabeth Tilson,of Scituate, Oct. 25, 1660. His occupation was similar to that of hisfather, a linen weaver. He accompanied his brother, Daniel, to Eastham,in 1668. He became a court officer in 1669. Here they separated and in1672 followed Jonathan, the son of Thomas his brother, and settled inPiscataway, New Jersey, south of Woodbridge, the home of Jonathan Dunham.He purchased 100 acres of land and became a planter. He took an activeinterest in the affairs of the colony and in 1673 was appointed captainof the militia, and as such was one of the committee of safety andcouncil of war. It was under this board that Jonathan Singletary, fromHaverhill, who had assumed the name of Jonathan Dunham, was condemned forhis vagrancy. His will was made May 10, 1679, and he died at Piscataway,N. J., Dec. 24, 1680.
BENAJAH DUNHAM.
XI. BENAJAH, b. Plymouth, 1640; m. Oct. 25, 1660. Elizabeth Tilson, ofScituate, dau. of Edmund, of Plymouth. He bought, in 1672, one hundredacres of land in Piscataway, N. J., and became a planter; 1664, afreeman; 1669, a court officer at Eastham; 1673, militia captain; May 10,1679, willed to son, Edmund, seventy acres of land on Raritan river; toMary, house and meadow on Bonham Creek, and one-third of cattle, movablegoods and books; to his wife, one-third of cattle, movable goods andbooks; to Elizabeth, forty acres of land, and one-third of cattle,movable goods and books; d. Dec. 24, 1680, at Piscataway, N. J. Issue: 2.I.--Edmund, b. July 25, 1661; m. July 15, 1681, Mary Bonham; b. Oct. 4,1661; d. March 17, 1734. 3. II.--John, b. Aug. 28, 1663; d. Sept. 6,1663. 4. III.--Elizabeth, b. Nov. 20, 1664; d. Dec. 31, 1667. 5.IV.--Mary, b. New Jersey, 1669; m. Mr. Thompson. Had son, John. 6.V.--Elizabeth, b. 1670, New Jersey; m. July 15, 1681, Jonas Wood. 7.VI.--Hannah, b. June 4, 1666; d. Dec. 25, 1667. 8. VII.--Benjamin, b.Oct. 28, 1667; baptized at Eastham, by Pastor Russell; d. young.
2 EDMUND, b. July 25, 1661, Plymouth; m. July 15, 1681, Mary Bonham, ofNicholas Bonham, and Hannah Fuller, of Samuel Fuller, and Jane Lothrop,of Edward Fuller and Ann, who came over in the Mayflower; Jane Lothropwas of Thomas of Robert, of John Lothrop, from Cherry Burton, England.Edmund, ordained at Westerly, R. I., 1705; pastor at Piscataway, N. J.;1705, founded Seventh Day Baptist, in New Jersey; Jan. 23, 1709,commissioned justice of peace by Queen Anne; d. March 17, 1734. Issue: 9.I.--Benajah, town clerk, 1714 to 1731; b. Aug. 13, 1684; m. Aug. 21,1704, Dorothy Martin; b. June, 1681; he d. Aug. 11, 1742. 10,II.--Elizabeth, b. Nov. 26, 1689; m. Aug. 21, 1704, Jonathan Martin. 11.III.--Edmund, Jr., b. Jan. 15, 1691; m. (1) March 11, 1717, DinahFitzrandolph, dau. of Thomas; m. (2) Mary Hill. 12. IV.--Jonathan, b.March 4, 1693; m. Aug. 5, 1714, Jane Pyatt, dau. of Reynier and ElizabethSheffield; m. 1677, in Long Island; d. March 10, 1777; she d. Sept. 15,1779. 13. V.--Ephraim, b. May 2, 1696; m. Jan. 16, 1716, Phebe Smalley.14. VI.--Ruth, b. Nov. 26, 1698; m. David Thomas. Thomas had Elizabeth;m. Mad Anthony Wayne; she was b. Newton Square, Philadelphia. 15.VII.--Mary, b. July 1, 1700; m. June 12, 1721, Elisha Smalley. 16.VIII.--Hannah, b. April 14, 1704; m. March 29, 1724, Josiah Davis.
11 EDMUND, b. Jan. 15, 1691; m. (1) March 11, 1717; 1715, member of Col.Thos. Ffarmer's Regiment, Fourth Company, Capt. Wetherbee; Dinah FitzRandolph; m. (2) Mary Hill, who was executrix in 1742. Issue, b. atPiscataway: 375. I.--Sarah, b. April 30, 1718. 376. II.--Rebecca, b. Oct.31, 1719. 377. III.--Nehemiah, b. Nov. 1, 1721; m. (1) Anne Dunn; m. (2)Mary Clarkson; m. (3) Anne McKinney; m. (4) Mrs. Bethany (Berdin) Adams;d. March 12, 1802. 378. IV.--Edmund, b. Oct. 13, 1723; m. 379.V.--Daniel, b. 1725; m. Dec. 17, 1749, Elizabeth Martin; d. 1778. 380.VI.--Dinah, b. 1725; m. Dec. 10, 1746, Joseph Dunn. 381. VII.--Elizabeth,b. Aug. 15, 1731; m. Feb. 22, 1764, Jacob Martin. 382. VIII.--Mary, b.July 1, 1734; m. March 30, 1768, John Conger. 383. IX.--Stephen, b. Oct.1, 1737; m. Elizabeth (???), 1763; bought 100 acres of Robinson; firstlieutenant, Fifth Company, Third Battalion; ensign, Third Company, ThirdBattalion, New Jersey Volunteers in Revolutionary war. 384. X.--CatherineC., b. 1741; d. Piscataway, 1814. 385. XI.--Peter. 386. XII.--Rachel.
377 NEHEMIAH, b. Nov. 1, 1721, Piscataway, N. J.; m. (1) Ann Dunn; m. (2)Mary Clarkson; m. (3) Oct. 26, 1768, Ann McKinney; m. (4) April 4, 1775,Mrs. Bethany (Berdin) Adams, who m. Mr. Stewart afterward. He bought in1760, 600 acres of Robinson, and moved to Clinton, Hunterdon Co., N. J.,1767; sold 40 acres to A. Bonnell; 1774, bought land at Piscataway,adjoining Abraham's, Benaiah's and Martin's lands, a part of the landpurchased by Robinson, of New Jersey Society; 1778, served in thirdassembly, New Jersey; 1783, served in seventh assembly; 1791-1797,justice of Hunterdon Co.; d. March 12, 1802, at Bethlehem. Issue, b. atPiscataway; 387. I.--Sarah, b. Aug. 27, 1746; m. Capt. Adam Hope; d.Sept. 29, 1826. 388. II.--Asa, b. 1751; pastor of Presbyterian Churchesat Oxford and Bethel, N. J.; 1806, succeeded David Barclay in theministry; m. (1) Sarah McPherson; m. (2) (???) Traphagan; m. (3) RebeccaOxford; m. (4) Mary McKinney, who d. from burns; m. (5) Elizabeth Moore;he d. Sept., 1825, at Shamokin, Columbia Co., Pa. 389. III.--Joanna, b.1752; m. April 18, 1772, Benaiah Dunham. 390. IV.--James, b. Oct., 1754;m. (1) Mrs. Mary (Dunham) Carhart; m. (2) Elizabeth Carpenter; d. Sept.,1820, Bethlehem, Pa. 391. V.--Aaron, b. 1759; unmarried; in New Jerseylegislature, 1791-95; 1786, 1788, grand treasurer and junior warden ofGrand Lodge of Masons of New Jersey; d. at Kingwood, Hunterdon Co., Nov.25, 1802. 392. VI.--John Clarkson, b. 1761; Clinton, 1817, thence toCincinnati; m. Martha Washington Willis; he d. 1839.
HOPE.
387 SARAH, b. Aug. 27, 1746, Piscataway; m. Oct. 31, 1765, Capt. AdamHope; b. June 13, 1741; d. Sept. 26, 1821; she d. Sept. 29, 1826,Bethlehem. When Gen. Lee was taken prisoner at White's Tavern, BushbyRidge, the remnant of his army and Gen. Sullivan's next in rank, marchedfrom Vialtown or Bernardsville, by way of Pluckemin to Clinton, and fromthence to the Delaware River, where they crossed into Pennsylvania andjoined Washington's army. While on their march through Clinton, forty ofSullivan's soldiers were provided with breakfast by Sarah Dunham. Issue:393. I.--Samuel Hope, b. Sept. 23, 1766; m. Rebecca Compton. 394.II.--Esther, b. Nov. 27, 1769; m. James Hall. 395. III.--Anna, b. Aug.18, 1772; m. Preston Foster. 396. IV.--Margaret, b. July 21, 1775; m.Joseph Carpenter. 397. V.--Nehemiah, b. June 27, 1778; m. Rebecca Emmons.398. VI.--Mary, b. Feb. 21, 1781; m. Elias Wyckoff; d. July 29, 1863.398a. VII.--James W., b. Nov. 10, 1784; m. Elizabeth Sharp. 399.VIII.--Lydia, b. May 31, 1787; m. Henry Emery.398a JAMES W. HOPE, b. Nov. 10, 1784; m. Feb. 14, 1813, Elizabeth Sharp;d. July, 1863. Issue: 400. I.--Marshall Hope. 401. II.--William. 402.III.--Aaron. 403. IV.--James H. 404. V.--George Washington. 405. VI.John. 406. VII.--Elias. 407. VIII.--Lydia.
EMERY.
399 LYDIA HOPE, b. May 31, 1787; m. April 22, 1807, Henry Emery. Issue:408. I.--Aaron Emery. 409. II.--William.393 SAMUEL HOPE, b. Sept. 23, 1766; m. 1791, Rebecca Compton. Issue: 410.I.--Ezra Hope. 411. II.--Sarah. 412. III.--Richard. 413. IV.--Mary. 414.V.--Adam. 415. VI.--Thomas. 416. VII.--John. 417. VIII.--William. 418.IX.--Lydia. 419. X.--Rebecca.
HALL.
394 ESTHER HOPE, b. Nov. 27, 1769; m. James Hall, May 17, 1789. Issue:420. I.--Meshac Hall. 421. II.--Aaron. 422. III.--Elizabeth. 423.IV.--Bethany. 424. V.--Anna. 425. VI.--Phineas. 426. VII.--Mary. 427.VIII.--Lydia. 427a. IX.--John.FOSTER.
395 ANNA HOPE b. Aug. 18, 1772; m. Preston Foster. Issue: 428. I.--AndrewFoster. 429. II.--Sarah. 430. III.--Robert. 431. IV.--Jane. 432.V.--Adam. 433. VI.--Thomas.CARPENTER.
396 MARGARET HOPE, b. July 21, 1775; m. Sept. 15, 1793, Joseph Carpenter.Issue: 434. I.--Mary Carpenter. 435. II.--Nancy. 436. III.--Samuel. 437.IV.--Ashman. 438. V.--Joseph, 1st. 439. VI.--Joseph, 2d. 440.VII.--Sarah. 441. VIII.--George. 442. IX.--William. 443. X.--Elizabeth.444. XI.--John. 445. XII.--Lydia.HOPE.
397 NEHEMIAH HOPE, b. June 27, 1778; m. Rebecca Emmons. Issue: 446.I.--Margaret Hope. 447. II.--John. 448. III.--Ann. 449. IV. Rachel. 450.V.--Mary.WYCKOFF.
398 MARY HOPE, b. Feb. 21, 1781; m. Oct. 18, 1798, Elias Wyckoff; d. July29, 1863. Issue: 451. I.--Elias Wyckoff. 452. II.--Sarah Ann. 453.III.--Lydia. 454. IV.--Nehemiah. 455. V.--Mary. 456. VI.--Christiana.457. VII.--Joanna. 458. VIII.--Rachel. 459. IX.--Aaron. 460. X.--George.
Mary died without children.
GRAVE: image
Mary Margaret Carpenter
Birth: unknown
Death: 18 Oct 1844
Burial: Winona 'The Fifty' Cemetery, Winona, Hamilton Municipality, Ontario, Canada
Memorial #: 77687857
Created by: Loraine Ertelt (47141973)
Added: 5 Oct 2011
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/77687857/mary-margaret-carpenter
Citation: Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 9 February 2018), memorial page for Mary Margaret Carpenter (unknown–18 Oct 1844), Find A Grave Memorial no. 77687857, citing Winona 'The Fifty' Cemetery, Winona, Hamilton Municipality, Ontario, Canada ; Maintained by Loraine Ertelt (contributor 47141973) .
NOTE:
William died without having children or he himself died young?GRAVE: image - same person? Likely
William B. Carpenter
Birth: unknown
Death: 21 Dec 1816
Burial: Winona 'The Fifty' Cemetery, Winona, Hamilton Municipality, Ontario, Canada
Memorial #: 77727675
Created by: Loraine Ertelt (47141973)
Added: 6 Oct 2011
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/77727675/william-b.-carpenter
Citation: Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 9 February 2018), memorial page for William B. Carpenter (unknown–21 Dec 1816), Find A Grave Memorial no. 77727675, citing Winona 'The Fifty' Cemetery, Winona, Hamilton Municipality, Ontario, Canada ; Maintained by Loraine Ertelt (contributor 47141973) .
Died at age two.
She reportedly never married.
See father's notes. Nancy had 3 kids.
NAME: Huckenberry or Hackenberry.
GRAVE: image
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=118951162
John Carpenter
Birth: unknown
Death: 1815
son of Aahman & Mary Carpenter
Aged: in the 19th year of his age.
Burial:
Saint Andrew's Anglican Church Cemetery
Grimsby
Niagara Regional Municipality
Ontario, Canada
Created by: Mark
Record added: Oct 19, 2013
Find A Grave Memorial# 118951162
CHILDREN: & MARRIAGE provided by:
Frank & Marilyn Crosswell of Windsor, ON Canada.
Samuel came to Saltfleet Twp. in 1787. He was married several times.
Submitted by Donald W. Carpenter (born 28 Apr. 1943) of Ontario,
Canada.
This Samuel is believed to be the Samuel Carpenter who is mentioned in the
"Death Notices from Christian Guardian" 1836-1850, Pages 57-58 which reads:
"Carpenter, Samuel was born in Sussex Co., N.J., c. 1776, and emigrated to
Canada West, settling in Saltfleet Twp. in 1787. In about 1801 he married
Mary Templer of Grimsby who die in 1838. In 1839, he married Mrs. Simonds of
Flamboro West. He died, Sept. 12, 1845; survived by his wife and family. -
Dec. 17, 1845, p. 33,0."In one record he has a daughter Sally who married a McMullen.
This may be a nick name for Martha, Mercy or Sarah. But to play it safe, she
is listed as a daughter.GRAVE: image
Samuel Carpenter
Birth: unknown
Death: 12 Sep 1845
Burial: Winona 'The Fifty' Cemetery, Winona, Hamilton Municipality, Ontario, Canada
Memorial #: 77612990
Family Members
Spouse
Mary Templar Carpenter 1777-1858
Children
Peter T. Carpenter* 1810-1832
Created by: Loraine Ertelt (47141973)
Added: 4 Oct 2011
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/77612990/samuel-carpenter
Citation: Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 9 February 2018), memorial page for Samuel Carpenter (unknown–12 Sep 1845), Find A Grave Memorial no. 77612990, citing Winona 'The Fifty' Cemetery, Winona, Hamilton Municipality, Ontario, Canada ; Maintained by Loraine Ertelt (contributor 47141973) .
NAME: Temple or Templer.
GRAVE: image
Mary Templar Carpenter
Birth: 1777
Death: 16 May 1858
Burial: Winona 'The Fifty' Cemetery, Winona, Hamilton Municipality, Ontario, Canada
Memorial #: 77612927
Family Members
Spouse
Samuel Carpenter* Unknown-1845
Children
Peter T. Carpenter* 1810-1832
Created by: Loraine Ertelt (47141973)
Added: 4 Oct 2011
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/77612927/mary-carpenter
Citation: Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 9 February 2018), memorial page for Mary Templar Carpenter (1777–16 May 1858), Find A Grave Memorial no. 77612927, citing Winona 'The Fifty' Cemetery, Winona, Hamilton Municipality, Ontario, Canada ; Maintained by Loraine Ertelt (contributor 47141973) .
See father's notes.
GRAVE: image
Peter T. Carpenter
Birth: 1810
Death: 6 Mar 1832
Burial: Winona 'The Fifty' Cemetery, Winona, Hamilton Municipality, Ontario, Canada
Memorial #: 77612875
Bio: Son of Samuel and Mary Carpenter
Family Members
Parents
Samuel Carpenter Unknown-1845
Mary Templar Carpenter 1777-1858
Created by: Loraine Ertelt (47141973)
Added: 4 Oct 2011
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/77612875/peter-t.-carpenter
Citation: Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 9 February 2018), memorial page for Peter T. Carpenter (1810–6 Mar 1832), Find A Grave Memorial no. 77612875, citing Winona 'The Fifty' Cemetery, Winona, Hamilton Municipality, Ontario, Canada ; Maintained by Loraine Ertelt (contributor 47141973) .
1563. Phoebe or Phebe Carpenter
BIRTH:
Some claim a birth of 19 Aug 1775 in New Jersey. But no proof or ciatation given other than undocumented internet trees.NOTE: Phoebe had five children. Only one lived past childhood, Mary.
Phoebe may have had a sister named Phebe who died in infancy.UPDATE:
99-04-04 11:21:35 EDT From: hoodnhat@telusplanet.net (Lorne & Faye Hood)
!Phoebe Carpenter daughter of Ashman Carpenter and Mary Boyle
born near Old Log Jail, Sussex County, New Jersey....born 1776...died
14 January 1842. In 1794 she became the wife of Stephen Coon.
Children
were 1. Mary...born 25 Oct 1795...died Nov 1872..married John A.
Stephenson.....2. Margaret...born 11 April 1797...died 7 March
1874...married James Tinlin on 30 October 1817......3. George
Rancier...born 13 March 1799...died 10 March 1872...married Deborah
Phoebe Smith on 2 April 1822.......4. Joseph...born 1802..died
1847...married Elizabeth Shaw.....5. William...born 25 Dec. 1804...died
1888 married Anne McMullen on 27 Feb. 1832....6. Stephen..born 1805 (a
couple of months after death of his Father)....died 1828.
On August 18, 1811 Phoebe Carpenter Coon remarried to Ebenezer Culver
and they became parents to Caroline....Eliza and Augustus.
The above was taken from some old writings of Stephen Coon 1826-1891.
Stephen's son Burwell has added to it as has George Rancier Wilfred
Coon. As you read some of the writings about George Rancier Coon born
1799 it says that he was sent to live with relatives after the death of
his father. Am still waiting on some info from some descendants in
Ontario and then will get a packet off to you. You will have to give me
your mailing address again as I misplaced it.
Another spot in the writing it says Ashman Carpenter his wife Mary
Boyle along with Stephen Coon (1764-1805) are buried in St. Andrews
English Church Cemetery, Grimsby, Ontario.
!Date: 99-02-24 00:57:04 EST From: hoodnhat@telusplanet.net (Lorne & Faye Hood)
Reply-to: hoodnhat@telusplanet.net TO: jrcrin001@aol.com
My George Rancier Coon was born 13 March 1799 in Lincoln County,
Ontario. He died 10 March 1872 in Oxford County Ontario. Married 3 April
1822 to Deborah Phoebe Smith..born 8 February 1805 and died 6 June 1883.
They are buried in Quaker Street Friends Cemetery in Norwich. They were
parents of five children.. Elizabeth S.; Stephen; Mary; Phoebe; and
George Rancier II.
I have found George Rancier I parents listed in two different
places...the first is at the Family History Center and they have John
Stephen Coon...b 1762 NJ and Phoebe Carpenter. The other was just in
some old writings and I am not sure who did them...they have John S.
Coon and Phebe Carpenter.Do know from Grandfather that the Coon family
was United Empire Loyalist. Have found on the 1861 census that George
Rancier Coon I states his religion as Quaker.BURIAL:
Not found on Canadian Headstones web page under surnames Coon or Culver.
https://canadianheadstones.com/search.html?page=&fname=&lname=Coon&trans=&prov=ON&idcemetery=&cemetery=Saint%20Andrews%20&limit=75&offset=525
SEE ALSO:
https://canadianheadstones.com/search.html?page=&fname=&lname=Culver&trans=&prov=ON&idcemetery=&cemetery=&limit=75&offset=0E-MAIL:
27 Feb 2020 via FTDNA System
mailto:jakob.brommersma@gmail.com
My 6th great grandmothers name was Phoebe Carpenter. She was born on august 19th 1775 in Hopewell, New Jersey. She died on the 14th of January in 1842. She married Stephen Coon (1764-1805) in the year 1794. Phoebe's father was Ashman Hope Carpenter (1725-1786) and her mother was Mary Catherine Boyle (1735-1815).
NAME: Stephen John or John Stephen Coon. See wife's notes.
Faye Hood in her update has Stephen Coon with no middle name.UPDATE:
Subj: Carpenter/Coon Connection Date: 99-05-28 From: FLTW To: JRCRIN001
John R. Carpenter
Recently I came across your answer to a question from Faye Hood regarding
Phoebe/Phebe (Have found it spelled both ways) Carpenter's husband Stephen
Coon. Have also found that his first name may have been John.
According to information I have found, Ashman Carpenter and family migrated to
Upper Canada as Loyalists in 1783. Soon after their arrival he became ill and
died in 1785 in Niagara, Lincoln Co., Ontario. Since Phoebe M. Carpenter was
born in 1776, she had to have been born in Sussex County, New Jersey and not in
Saltfleet or Toronto as some records show. My information comes from several
sources: A History of the Coon Family by Stephen Burnell Coon (1862-1936),
several different volumes of "The Annals of the Forty" published by the Grimsby
Historical Society, "The Carpenter and Coon Families" excerpts received from
the Hamilton Genealogical Association and from family information.
My father carried the "Carpenter" name as a middle name. John Stephen and
Phoebe had 6 children, the 6th, Stephen, was born a few months after his death
from injuries suffered when a tree fell on him while he was clearing his
property, Lot 4 Concession #5, Clinton Township, Lincoln Co., Ontario. This is
the location of the births of all his children. My records are as follows:
Descendants of Phoebe Carpenter
1
Phoebe Carpenter
b: 1776 Sussex County, New Jersey
d: 14 Jan 1842 Townsend Township, Norfolk County, Ontario, Canada
aka: Phebe Carpenter
+John Stephen Coon
b: 1764 New Jersey
m: Abt. 1794 Canada
d: 25 Jan 1805 Clinton Township, Lincoln County, Ontario, Canada
Burial: St. Andrews English Church Cemetery, Grimsby, Ontario
2
Mary C Coon
b: 25 Oct 1795 Lot #4 Concession #5, Clinton Township, Lincoln County, Ontario,
Canada
d: Nov 1872 Caistor, Ontario, Canada
+John Augustus Stephenson
b: 10 Oct 1783 North Carolina
m: 30 Jun 1817 Ontario, Canada
d: 07 Feb 1853 Caistor, Ontario, Canada
2
Margaret Coon
b: 11 Apr 1797 Lot #4 Con #5 Clinton Township, Lincoln County, Ontario, Canada
d: 17 Mar 1874
+James Tinlin
m: 31 Oct 1817
2
George Rancier Coon
b: 18 Mar 1799 Clinton Township, Lincoln County, Ontario, Canada
d: 10 Mar 1872 North Norwich Township, Oxford County, Ontario, Canada
Burial: QuakerStreet Friends Cemetery, North Norwich Township, Oxford County,
Ontario
+Deborah Phoebe Smith
b: 08 Feb 1805 Grimsby Township, Lincoln County, Ontario, Canada
m: 03 Apr 1822 Grimsby Township Lincoln County, Ontario, Canada
d: 06 Jun 1883 North Norwich Township, Oxford County, Ontario, Canada
Burial: QuakerStreet Friends Cemetery, North Norwich Township, Oxford County,
Ontario, Canada
2
Joseph Carpenter Coon
b: 18 Dec 1802 Clinton Township, Lincoln County, Ontario, Canada
d: 10 Sep 1847
Burial: Fulton
+Elizabeth Shaw
b: 14 Oct 1804 Toronto, York, Ontario, Canada
m: 05 Sep 1822
d: 13 Dec 1883
3
Isaac Shaw Coon
b: 08 Nov 1825
d: 16 Dec 1903
3
William Coon
b: Abt. 1828
3
George Coon
b: Abt. 1832
3
Prudence Coon
b: Abt. 1834
3
Deborah Coon
b: Abt. 1836
3
Mary Coon
b: Abt. 1838
3
Joseph Carpenter Coon, Jr
b: Abt. 1840 Toronto, York, Ontario, Canada
+Isabelle Ann Snyder
b: 1842
d: 01 Mar 1916
4
Sarah Elizabeth Coon
b: 25 Jun 1862
d: 01 Apr 1903 , Ontario, Canada
+Benjamin Howland Tweddle
b: 08 Aug 1855 Canada
m: 27 Dec 1882
d: 12 Jun 1931 Riverside, Riverside, CA
Burial: Evergreen Cemetery, Riverside, CA
5
Everard Hermon Tweddle
b: 04 Dec 1883 Abingdon, Ontario, Canada
d: 20 Mar 1969 Long Beach, Los Angeles, CA
+Leota Glenn Grizzle
b: 15 Jan 1884 Paxton, Indiana
m: 19 Sep 1917 Arlington Place, Riverside, CA
d: 23 Nov 1962 Long Beach, Los Angeles, CA
6
Wilbur Lowell Tweddle
b: 18 Dec 1919 Perris, Riverside, CA d. 27 Dec 1998
+Florence Redmond
b: 05 Mar 1919 Burlington,,Vt.
m: 29 May 1947 Orange, Orange, CA
5
Millie Ann Tweddle
b: 18 Jun 1885 Beamsville, Ontario, Canada
d: 1977
+Manly Cable
b: Abt. 1884
m: 27 Oct 1909
d: 1977
6
Roy Cable
b: 02 Sep 1911
d: 08 Jan 1983
+Millie
b: Unknown
m: Unknown
d: Unknown
6
Dorothy Cable
b: Feb 1916
6
Cecil Cable
b: Jun 1917
+Barbara
b: Unknown
m: 1949
d: Unknown
6
Ralph M. Cable
b: 23 Sep 1923 Macklin, Sask., Canada
+Hazel
b: Unknown
m: Bef. 1954
7
Robin G Cable
b: 26 Feb 1954 High Prairie, Alberta, Canada
+Helen
b: Unknown
m: Unknown
*2nd Wife of Ralph M. Cable:
+Marjorie A. Scheuerman
b: 08 Jun 1939 Calgary, Alberta, Canada
m: 03 Dec 1966 Las Vegas,,NV
7
Patricia A. Cable
b: 08 Jan 1968 Palm Springs, Riverside, CA
+Harald Groenen
b: Unknown
m: 07 Dec 1995 Las Vegas,,NV
7
Gordon M. Cable
b: 24 Jan 1969 Palm Springs, Riverside, CA
7
Brian R. Cable
b: 19 Jan 1971 Palm Springs, Riverside, CA
+Alison Carey
b: Unknown
m: 12 Jul 1997 Couer D'Lane,, Idaho
d: Unknown
5
Earl Carpenter Tweddle
b: 19 May 1887 Abingdon, Ontario, Canada (Beamsville)
d: 30 Jan 1954 Riverside, CA
Burial: Evergreen Cemetery, Riverside, CA
+Harriet Webber
b: 06 Jan 1895 Arlington Place, Riverside, CA
m: 14 Aug 1919 At the Bride's home, Arlington Place, CA.
d: 08 Dec 1987 Riverside,Riverside, CA
Burial: Evergreen Cemetery, Riverside, CA
6
Florence Lenore Tweddle
b: 02 Dec 1921 Arlington Place, Riverside, CA
+Richard Julian Wood
b: 29 Jan 1919 Riverside, Riverside, CA
m: 27 Jun 1947 Riverside, Riverside, CA
7
Bruce Richard Wood
b: 24 Oct 1950 Riverside, Riverside, CA
+Rebecca Sue Staley
b: 21 Sep 1946 Lima, OH
m: 01 Sep 1973 Lexington, KY
8
Eric Ross Wood
b: 06 Sep 1978 Austin, TX
7
Janet Louise Wood
b: 18 Jun 1952 Riverside, Riverside, CA
+Kenneth Lynn Hamilton
b: 22 Jan 1952 Brawley, Imperial, CA
m: 08 Sep 1973 San Diego, CA
8
Karen Lenore Hamilton
b: 04 May 1980 San Diego, San Diego, CA
6
Harold Vincent Tweddle
b: 02 May 1925 Riverside, Riverside, CA
d: 03 Apr 1944 Red Rock Air Field, AZ
Burial: Evergreen Cemetery, Riverside, Riverside, CA
4
Amelia A Coon
b: 1867
d: 1933 Grimsby, Ontario, Canada
+Francis Hildreth
b: 1868
3
Euphemia Coon
b: Abt. 1844
2 William Coon
b: 25 Dec 1804 Clinton Township, Lincoln County, Ontario, Canada
d: 1888
+Anne McMullen
m: 27 Feb 1832
2 Stephen Coon
b: 1805 Clinton Township, Lincoln County, Ontario, Canada
d: 1828 Clinton Township, Lincoln County, Ontario, Canada
*2nd Husband of Phoebe Carpenter:
+Ebenezer Colver
m: 18 Aug 1811 Ontario, Canada
2
Caroline Colver
2
Eliza Colver
2
Agustus Colver
Hope this information may be of some use or interest to you for your collection
of Carpenter information.
Florence
Mrs. Richard J. Wood
2525 Littleton Pl.
Costa Mesa, CA 92626BOOK:
Annals of the Forty book # 4 Loyalists and pioneer families of West Lincoln 1783-1833
Complied by: R. Janet Powell
Published by The Grimsby Historical Society 1955 - Revised and Reprinted 1983.
No e-book found. See: https://www.abebooks.com//servlet/SearchResults?tn=Annals+Forty:+Loyalist+pioneer+families+West+Lincoln,+1783-1833
Stephen Coon and his family are cited.BOOK:
History of Union Lodge, No. 7, Grimsby, Ont., Canada [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2008. Original data: William J Drope. History of Union Lodge, No. 7, Grimsby, Ont., Canada. [Peterborough, Ont.?]: [s.n.], [1899?].
Touching on the Lodge and its Founders - Stephen Coon mentioned (See image 5 of 14).
SEE: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/32866/flhcan1900_104953__0001-00004/187498?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return&rc=2112,1547,2250,1571;2270,1546,2346,1570
On January 5, 1805, as Brother Stephen Coon was lying on his deathbed ... (image 7 of 14).
SEE: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/32866/flhcan1900_104953__0001-00006/187500?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return&rc=2570,1892,2685,1922;2697,1892,2770,1922BURIAL: image
https://canadianheadstones.com/search-item.html?psid=947738
Stephen COON
St. Andrews Anglican Church, OGS#3330, Grimsby, Ontario
TRANSCRIPTION
MEMORY OF STEPHEN COON, WHO DIED ON THE 1(2?)th DAY OF JANUARY 1805 & IN THE 41ST YEAR OF HIS AGE Phrase: LEAVE YOU ALL BOTH GREAT & SMALL IN JESUS SAVING ARMS WHO CAN YOU SAVE
SUBMITTED BY: wagner.beamsville@gmail.com on 2016-11-27 17:12:41
James was a Sgt. in the 5th Lincoln Regt. War of 1812. He died of illness
while in the service and his widow received a pension for his war service.
!Submitted by Donald W. Carpenter (born 28 Apr. 1943) of Ontario,
Canada.E-MAIL:
From: fredblairorillia@hotmail.com To: johnlsaywhat@aol.com Sent: 9/1/2013 8:03:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Carpenter family history query
John,
I found your posts in the Carpenter forum at ancestry.com. I am interested in the family history of Gershom and James Carpenter, the sons of Ashman Carpenter who died in 1789 in the Niagara area. I am writing veteran biographies for the men who served in the 5th Lincoln Militia during the War of 1812. I have the following bios:
Capt. Gershom Carpenter (1765-1845) @
...
Sgt. James Carpenter (1779-1813) @
He was born in Grimsby to Ashman Hope Carpenter and Mary Catherine Boyle (Pati). On June 29, 1802, he made a land petition as a resident of Saltfleet Twp. He was 21 years old and had arrived in the province with his father and family at least twelve years ago. On August 3, 1804, the petition was dismissed as James had not appeared before the board (U708). In 1804 he married Sophia Agusta Simons (Pati). On December 23, 1811, he made a second land petition as a yeoman of Saltfleet Twp. He had resided in the province for about 23 years. It was certified in 1804 that his father was deceased and that he had the care of his elderly mother. The petition was recommended (U709). On January 26, 1813, he died of an illness. His widow, Sophia, received a militia pension (OTW)(WP2).
I have indices to the online documents for the land petitions, militia service, and war claims. Pati’s sources have not always been reliable and would like to confirm that information. I would also like to know both men’s birth dates, Sophia’s parentage, and further details on both men’s death and burial places. Both men appeared to have lived in Saltfleet Twp. during the war.
I have bios and sources for other men who lived in the area from Oakville to Hamilton, Ontario during the war.
Fred Blair
Orillia, Ontario, CanadaGRAVE: image
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=118951060
James Carpenter
Birth: Aug. 20, 1779
Grimsby
Ontario, Canada
Death: Jan. 26, 1813
Ontario, Canada
Son of Ashman H. Carpenter & Mary Catherine Boyle, husband of Sophia Simons
Family links:
Parents:
Ashman Hope Carpenter (1725 - 1786)
Mary Catherine Boyle Carpenter (1735 - 1815)
Siblings:
Gershom Carpenter (1765 - 1845)*
William Carpenter (1774 - 1853)*
James Carpenter (1779 - 1813)
*Calculated relationship
Burial:
Saint Andrew's Anglican Church Cemetery
Grimsby
Niagara Regional Municipality
Ontario, Canada
Created by: Mark
Record added: Oct 19, 2013
Find A Grave Memorial# 118951060
NAME: Went by Ann.
CAUTION:
Ancestry issue in that 3 descendants have Y-DNA tested and are part of Group 12 of the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project. We are not sure if this is a NPE (Non-Paternal Event = a formal or informal adoption within a lineage) or bad genealogy. For now we challenge the parents John Carpenter and Mary Hart.NOTE: MAJOR CORRECTION - See page 906 (insert) and 907 in the Carpenter Memorial.
Family number 49 - corrected to as listed.Number 325 in The Carpenter Memorial on page 86.
Family number 1 on page 160 (#145) and number 2 on page 824 (#1831).
Marriage number 3 not in CM. See Corrections on page 906 & 907.Pennsylvania Marriages before 1790: Two marriages given.
1768, June 16. Carpenter, Benjamin and Grace Morgan
1772, Aug. 10. Carpenter, Benjamin and Mary MorganBenjamin Carpenter was born near Woodbury, Gloucester, NJ just south and across the Delaware river from Philadelphia, PA. After the close of the Revolutionary War, he moved to Fauquier, VA (NOTE: NEVER PART OF , now W.Virginia), where his first and second (NOTE: not 2nd & 3rd) wives died. In 1797 he removed to Harrison county, VA (now WV). In 1804 to what is now Lawrence County, OH where he died in 1809.
NOTE: Fauquier, VA was never part of WV. There were two basic ways to get to Fauquier County from the Delaware River area between Philadelphia and Gloucester County, NJ.
1) By ship down the Delaware River to Delaware Bay then out to the Atlantic Ocean and back through Chesapeake Bay and up the Rappahannock River to a few miles southeast of Front Royal, Warren County, Virginia, near the single point where Warren, Fauquier, and Rappahannock counties come together. Then east into Fauquier County. This or something similar is most likely.
2) By land from Philadelphia west over the Philadelphia Wagon Road toward Washington, DC then southwest to the Old Northwestern Turnpike then eat into Loudoun County then south into Fauquier County.To go to Harrison County, WV from Fauquier County is by land. North into Loudoun County then west on the Old Northwestern Turnpike over the Shenandoah Mountains until you get to Harrison County then part of VA.
To go to Lawrence County, OH from Harrison County you head west on the Old Northwestern Turnpike until you get to the Ohio River. Then use the river to float to Lawrence County. Note, there was also a trail that went inland (west of the river into Ohio) then south.
Number 8953 in the Carpenter Memorial on page 824.
Number 8957 in the Carpenter Memorial. See page 824.
Not in the computer record.
McFarland was the name of her first husband.
Number 8960 in the Carpenter Memorial. See page 824.
She died in her 13th year in Ohio per the CM. Another record indicates
she was a stillborn death. Possibly 2 Linny children.
MARRIAGE:
He did not marry Mary Eldridge on 6 Dec 1784. This has been disproved. See RIN 131769 who married Mary Eldridge.MARRIAGE:
If he did not marry Mary, then who did he marry and where did he go after Philadelphia? Did he go to present day WV? More research needed.
Some place on line show he married a Mary Schumacher abt 1780 in Philadephia. But the John Carpenter she married died at age 21. So that is discounted.CHILDREN:
Where did these DMY dates come from? What are there source? Is it a family bible?
They are first seen in the old Ancestral File (AF) and no one has expanded upon them since.AF:
Several submissions from 1989, 1991 then PRF there after. Then resubmitted to the updated AF in 2011.
John CARPENTER
GENDER: Male
BIRTH: 1747 , Gloucester, NJ
FATHER: John CARPENTER
MOTHER: Sarah Mary DRIVER
SPOUSE: Mary
MARRIAGE: about 1780 Of Philadelphia,, PA
CITING THIS RECORD
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "Ancestral File," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:1:MWSW-BHR : accessed 2016-04-11), entry for John CARPENTER.
ANCESTRAL FILE NUMBER: Q7V9-05
COMMENT: On line someone attached Mary Schumacher to a John Carpenter. No proof and I can find no proof. For now, I provide samples below.
FAMILYSEARCH-Family Tree: Compare
https://familysearch.org/tree/#view=ancestor§ion=details&person=MWSW-BCY
NAME: Mary Schumacher
BIRTH: 5 September 1760 Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
DEATH: 3 December 1842 Montgomery, Montgomery, Pennsylvania, United States
FSFTN: MWSW-BCY
MARRIAGE: Abt 1780 of, Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
SPOUSE: John Carpenter
BIRTH: 1747 Gloucester, N.J.
DEATH: Deceased
FSFTN: L44Q-5YMANCESTRY: Family Tree - compare
http://person.ancestry.com/tree/82086592/person/34452017645/facts
Mary Schumacher
BIRTH 5 SEP 1760 • Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
DEATH 3 DEC 1842 • Montgomery, Montgomery, Pennsylvania, United States
MARRIAGE: abt 1780 of Philadelphia, PA
SPOUSE John Carpenter
BIRTH ABT 1747 • Gloucester, N.J.
DEATH AE 21 <----------------- abt 1768 if you use 1747
Other Sources
GEDCOM file submitted by Duane Anderson, duanea280@gmail.com. Imported on 21 July 2015.
CENSUS: 1830 US Census
Name: Stephen Carpenter
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1830
Event Place: Northern Liberties Ward 6, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Note:
Page: 149
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: M19
Affiliate Film Number: 157
GS Film Number: 0020631
Digital Folder Number: 005155998
Image Number: 00292
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1830," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHGT-TSC : accessed 11 April 2016), Stephen Carpenter, Northern Liberties Ward 6, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States; citing 149, NARA microfilm publication M19, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 157; FHL microfilm 20,631.
NOTE: 1 male 30-40 or b. abt 1790 to 1800. 1 male <5, 3 females <5, 2 females 5-10 & 1 female 30-40.
DEATH: Maybe the following person?
Wed. Oct. 10, 1827 Vol. 1 # 15- p. 119
"The Souvenir" Wed. July 18, 1827- Vol. 1 # 3- p.23, Philadelphia.
Died; On the 4th inst. Mr. John CARPENTER, book binder, aged 34 years.
http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/data/pa+index+4808109999321+F
DEATH:
Or maybe one of the following? At least they have 1795 as birth.
John Carpenter
Pennsylvania, Philadelphia City Death Certificates, 1803-1915
birth: 1795
death: 10 November 1822 Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
John Carpenter
Pennsylvania, Philadelphia City Death Certificates, 1803-1915
birth: 1795
death: 22 April 1822 Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Number 326 in the Carpenter Memorial. See page 86 and 906.
He is probably the father of Samuel H. Carpenter of Philadelphia. - This statement has been proved wrong.Did he move to Greenwich, Warren, New Jersey?
Other than what is in the CM, nothing really found. Likely misidentified?
This is not the Samuel H. Carpenter of Philadelphia. But it is left here for reference.
STORY:
The following story has been DISPROVED by Y-DNA testing via the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project - Group 3. Group 3 is an English line and not an Irish line.
There were ... four brothers [who] came from Ireland and settled in New York. Two came to WV, John and David, and one stayed in Ohio (which would explain the migration to Ohio for a time) and one remained in New York. The story is similar to what her grandfather Burse told her older sister. In this version, three brothers had come from Ireland during one of the famines. The three brothers were John, Ashman and David Carpenter. John went to Fort Pitt and then settled in Virginia, now WV. Ashman reputedly went to North Carolina and Patty was unsure about David. - Yet another version has David to PA.RELATED: Related Carpenter?
Patty Carpenter Helm wrote:
... Further, there is a William Carpenter who died in 1803 and who is buried at Maple Grove Cemetery who is a Rev. War soldier. See C-9, 5/5/98.
SEE: This lists 49 Carpenter matches, the above William Carpenter is W. R. Carpenter. NEED: Can anyone read the image or have a better image?
SEE: Find a Grave at:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSiman=1&GScid=79028&GSfn=&GSln=CarpenterARTICLE: "Carpenters of the South", SLC FHL 929.273 C225ctl, Chapter entitled "John of Monongalia Cny WV," page 1: "John Carpenter was born about 1710-1750 (probably c1750), married Anna ---, and was a native of NY." Information prepared by Terry L. Carpenter of Memphis, Tennessee. See C-3, #1 in the files of Janet Gesas Hornick, Englewood.
NOTE: This author stated that further research was needed to confirm relationships.COMMENT: RichardCLarson@aol.com wrote on July 24, 2005: "I am sure we are related to William Carpenter of Rehoboth, MA, branch. Founder: Captain William Carpenter b. 1605 in England and came to America in 1638. He had more descendants in the revolutionary war than any other family. -- JRC adds Confirmed Group 3!
MORE:
"John Carpenter 1765, Long Isand New York married Nancy Ann Miller, Father= John 1730 and Anna, John Carpenter 1700, John Carpenter 1680, John Carpenter 1658, John Carpenter 1626, William Carpenter 1605 (Married Abigail Briant) http://genealogycds.com/sales/carpenter.htm"E-MAIL:
On 29 July 2005 Richard wrote: "The Cds are very valuable tools for connecting to William of Reho and His son Captain John Carpenter. I was able to trace the the line of Johns, from Captain John back, but the link ended when one of his descendants failed to have a John. However I did find something notable that is listed. One of Captain John Carpeter's (b.1626) sons was Hope Carpenter)b.1660. His wife was Mary Ashman. They had a son named Ashmond Carpenter( along with some other descendants of this line named Ashman. This is probably where one would find the link between our Ashman Carpenter and William of Rehoboth Carpenter. Have you found any info on Ashman Carpenter's parents other than the ones that say John and Nancy. They could still possibly be the parents, but it is not John>John>John untill Captain John Carpenter. It would have to be from Hope Carpenter, as the Name Ashman Carpenter started poppingup after their marriage. I am going to leave the Captain John Carpenter and his ancestors, but I am going to leave the middle blank, as their is a connection. Let me know what you think."
COMMENT:
"The Hope/Ashman line is actually mainly from New Jersey. They were also loyalists to the crown in the rev war, meaning they migrated to Ontario." JRC adds yes they are related genetically!
MORE:
Jan wrote back: "I have a couple of lines where I have done as you mentioned, keeping the "way back" ancestors in my PAF database, and unlinking for a generation or more until further data appears. The Ashman name has always interested me. I have seen that Hope Carpenter hypothesis before. Maybe there is some credance to it, but I would want more firm data."