Group 3 - Descendants of William Carpenter-98-
Father of William Carpenter-584 (b. abt 1605)

Notes


1573. Samuel Carpenter

Number 321 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 86
Family on page 159 (#143)

Samuel went to North Carolina about 1774 and from there to Barron county, KY
in 1800 where he died in 1811.
A deed is recorded at Cleveland, NC dated 8 Oct 1811 from L___ Short and
Catherine Carpenter, executors of the estate of Samuel Carpenter, deceased of
the county of Barron, State of Kentucky, to Joseph Carpenter for 500 acres of
land.

Hunterdon county until 1838 when Hopewell became part of Mercer county.

NOTE: Read brother's notes!

Samuel moved to Barren County, Kentucky where he became quite prominent politically and economically. Some of his descendants traveled to central Missouri with so many other Carpenters and family members. Per Robert C. Carpenter.


4039. Sally Carpenter

Number 957 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 159.
Her descendants are residents of North Carolina (1898).


4040. Margaret Carpenter

Number 958 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 159.
Her descendants reside in Tennessee (1898).


4041. Ruth Carpenter

Number 959 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 159.
Her descendants reside in North Carolina (1898).


1574. Joseph Carpenter

NOTE:
Noted in the book "Carpenters A Plenty" by Robert C. Carpenter. See page 972.

A descendant of this Joseph Carpenter-13138 was Y-DNA tested via the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project and found to match genetically with Group 5, a Zimmerman line for Switzerland.  And not Group 3 of the Rehoboth, MA line as cited in the Carpenter Memorial (CM). This Joseph has been removed as a son of Hezekiah Carpenter-12823 from the CM.  ID (RINs) numbers after the surname reflect assigned numbers in the main Carpenter Cousins database.

There had been a concern that the Joseph in the CM and the genealogical descendants assigned were done in error. This has been confirmed and this is the reason for this note. May 2015 JRC

The following is the information cited in the CM and left for reference. The second paragraph may reflect the correct Joseph.

Number 322 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 86
Family on page 159 (#144)

He moved from Hopewell to Bucks county, PA and after the death of his father,
to North Carolina in 1775 and located in Irvon: afterwards to Ruthford (now
Cleveland county).  They were both buried at Knob Creek, Cleveland county, NC.

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new notes

Hunterdon county until 1838 when Hopewell became part of Mercer county.

Joseph moved from Hopewell to Bucks ,,PA, and after the
death of his father, to North Carolina, in 1775, and located in
Irvon; afterwards to Ruthford (now Cleveland County).2  SOUR S203

EMAIL:
From: Robert Carpenter
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:51 AM
To: carpenter@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Joseph Carpenter-13138 and Susanna Eakers-13139
John and all,
I am hoping that a male member of this family will have their DNA tested.
The lineage of this Joseph back to William Carpenter of English descent has
been contested. Joseph Zimmerman, whose brother was Samuel, resided in
upper Cleveland County, NC. They married Eaker sisters. All were German.
Joseph and Samuel are not direct descendants of Hans Zimmerman of Group 5
but rather of a relative from Pennsylvania. Their mother, Margaret Caquelin
(variously spelled) named them in her will. She married a Zimmerman first
and then a Caquelin. Samuel moved to Kentucky and a number of Joseph's
descendants moved to Tennessee. Others remained in North Carolina. Bob and
I have been unable to get a descendant of Joseph or Samuel to have their DNA
tested to prove once and for all that they belong to Group 5.
I am hopeful that this contact may motivate a member of the family to do so.
Robert Carpenter

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SPECULATION:  Unfounded per Robert Carpenter - 3 May 2015
Is Joseph C-13138 a half sibling of Sarah Salome Carpenter-112683 who married a David Klein (Cline) and who is buried in the same cemetery? SSC-112683 has Jacob Zimmerman-112652 and Catherine Ramsaur-112653 as parents. Suspicion of a earlier marriage of JZ-112652 to Margaret _______ is unfounded.   

PARENT:  
Their mother (of brothers Joseph & Samuel), Margaret Caquelin (variously spelled) named them in her
1798 will. She married a Zimmerman first and then a Caquelin.

LOCATION:  
Cleveland County created in 1841 from Rutherford and Lincoln Counties:

CENSUS: 1800 US Census - 2 listed
1)
Name: Joseph Carpenter
Event Place: Morgan, Rutherford, North Carolina
Page Number: 104
Affiliate Publication Number: M32
Affiliate Film Number: 33
GS Film number: 337909
Digital Folder Number: 004440861
Image Number: 00416
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1800," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHRW-HHB : accessed 5 May 2015), Joseph Carpenter, Morgan, Rutherford, North Carolina; citing p. 104, NARA microfilm publication M32, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 33; FHL microfilm 337,909.
Name: Joseph Carpenter Home in 1800 (City, County, State): Morgan, Rutherford, North Carolina Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 2 Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44 (1756 to 1774) to : 1 Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 2 Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over: 1 Number of Slaves: 6 Number of Household Members Under 16: 4 Number of Household Members Over 25: 3 Number of Household Members: 13
NOTE:  Should be 44 plus.
2)
Name: Joseph Carpenter
Event Place: Morgan, Rutherford, North Carolina
Page Number: 104
Affiliate Publication Number: M32
Affiliate Film Number: 33
GS Film number: 337909
Digital Folder Number: 004440861
Image Number: 00416
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1800," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHRW-HCS : accessed 5 May 2015), Joseph Carpenter, Morgan, Rutherford, North Carolina; citing p. 104, NARA microfilm publication M32, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 33; FHL microfilm 337,909.
Name: Joseph Carpenter Home in 1800 (City, County, State): Morgan, Rutherford, North Carolina Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 1 Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44: 1 Number of Household Members Under 16: 1 Number of Household Members Over 25: 2 Number of Household Members: 3

CENSUS: 1810 US Census - only 1 found  - appears to be the son
Name: Joseph Carpenter
Event Place: Not Stated, Rutherford, North Carolina
Page Number: 359 1/2
Line Number: 140
Affiliate Publication Number: M252
Affiliate Film Number: 42
GS Film number: 0337915
Digital Folder Number: 004433475
Image Number: 00177
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1810," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHL9-FVF : accessed 5 May 2015), Joseph Carpenter, Not Stated, Rutherford, North Carolina; citing p. 359 1/2, NARA microfilm publication M252 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 42; FHL microfilm 337,915.
Name: Joseph Carpenter Home in 1810 (City, County, State): Rutherford, North Carolina Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 5 Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44 : 1 Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44: 1 Numbers of Slaves: 1 Number of Household Members Under 16: 6 Number of Household Members Over 25: 2 Number of Household Members: 9

CENSUS: 1820 US Census - 3 found - 1 is in Lincoln County.
1)
Name: Joseph Carpenter
Event Place: Not Stated, Rutherford, North Carolina
Page Number: 389
Affiliate Publication Number: M33
Affiliate Film Number: 80
GS Film number: 0162796
Digital Folder Number: 004433378
Image Number: 00364
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1820," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHGS-C3B : accessed 5 May 2015), Joseph Carpenter, Not Stated, Rutherford, North Carolina; citing p. 389, NARA microfilm publication M33, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 80; FHL microfilm 162,796.
Name: Joseph Carpenter Home in 1820 (City, County, State): Rutherford, North Carolina Enumeration Date: August 7, 1820 Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 15: 1 Free White Persons - Males - 45 (born 1775 and before) and over: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over : 1 Slaves - Males - Under 14: 5 Slaves - Males - 14 thru 25: 2 Slaves - Males - 26 thru 44: 1 Slaves - Males - 45 and over: 1 Slaves - Females - Under 14: 3 Slaves - Females - 26 thru 44: 1 Slaves - Females - 45 and over: 1 Number of Persons - Engaged in Agriculture: 7 Free White Persons - Under 16: 1 Free White Persons - Over 25: 2 Total Free White Persons: 3 Total Slaves: 14 Total All Persons - White, Slaves, Colored, Other: 17
2)
Name: Joseph Carpenter II   <-------------------------------- Is this his son? No, he died in 1815.
Event Place: Not Stated, Rutherford, North Carolina
Page Number: 388
Affiliate Publication Number: M33
Affiliate Film Number: 80
GS Film number: 0162796
Digital Folder Number: 004433378
Image Number: 00363
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1820," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHGS-H15 : accessed 5 May 2015), Joseph Carpenter II, Not Stated, Rutherford, North Carolina; citing p. 388, NARA microfilm publication M33, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 80; FHL microfilm 162,796.
Name: Joseph Carpenter 2nd [Joseph Carpenter II] Home in 1820 (City, County, State): Rutherford, North Carolina Enumeration Date: August 7, 1820 Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 2 Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 15: 3 Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25: 2 Free White Persons - Males - 45  (born 1775 and before) and over: 1 Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 2 Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44: 1 Slaves - Females - Under 14: 2 Slaves - Females - 14 thru 25: 1 Number of Persons - Engaged in Agriculture: 6 Free White Persons - Under 16: 8 Free White Persons - Over 25: 2 Total Free White Persons: 12 Total Slaves: 3 Total All Persons - White, Slaves, Colored, Other: 15
3)
Name: Joseph Carpenter   --------- maybe, but it is further afield.
Event Place: East of the South Fork of the Catawba River, Lincoln, North Carolina
Page Number: 376
Affiliate Publication Number: M33
Affiliate Film Number: 83
GS Film number: 0162799
Digital Folder Number: 004433222
Image Number: 00242
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1820," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHLX-DWH : accessed 5 May 2015), Joseph Carpenter, East of the South Fork of the Catawba River, Lincoln, North Carolina; citing p. 376, NARA microfilm publication M33, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 83; FHL microfilm 162,799.

CENSUS: 1830 US Census - 4 found, two are in Lincoln County.
1)
Name: Joseph Carpenter
Event Place: Not Stated, Rutherford, North Carolina
Page Number: 446
Affiliate Publication Number: M19
Affiliate Film Number: 124
GS Film number: 0018090
Digital Folder Number: 004410633
Image Number: 00877
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1830," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHP6-9WC : accessed 5 May 2015), Joseph Carpenter, Not Stated, Rutherford, North Carolina; citing p. 446, NARA microfilm publication M19, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 124; FHL microfilm 18,090.
Name: Joseph Carpenter Home in 1830 (City, County, State): Rutherford, North Carolina Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: 1 Free White Persons - Males - 15 thru 19: 2 Free White Persons - Males - 20 thru 29: 5 Free White Persons - Males - 60 thru 69: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 14: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 40 thru 49: 1 Slaves - Males - 24 thru 35: 1 Slaves - Females - Under 10: 1 Slaves - Females - 10 thru 23: 1 Free White Persons - Under 20: 6 Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 6 Total Free White Persons: 13 Total Slaves: 3 Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored): 16
2)
Name: Joseph Carpenter
Event Place: Not Stated, Rutherford, North Carolina
Page Number: 508
Affiliate Publication Number: M19
Affiliate Film Number: 124
GS Film number: 0018090
Digital Folder Number: 004410633
Image Number: 00997
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1830," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHP6-SR5 : accessed 5 May 2015), Joseph Carpenter, Not Stated, Rutherford, North Carolina; citing p. 508, NARA microfilm publication M19, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 124; FHL microfilm 18,090.
Name:  Joseph Carpenter
Home in 1830 (City, County, State):   Rutherford, North Carolina
Free White Persons - Males - 60 thru 69:  1
Slaves - Males - Under 10:  1
Slaves - Males - 36 thru 54:  1
Slaves - Males - 55 thru 99:  1
Slaves - Females - Under 10:  2
Slaves - Females - 10 thru 23:  2
Slaves - Females - 36 thru 54:  1
Slaves - Females - 55 thru 99:  1
Total Free White Persons:  1
Total Slaves:  9
Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored):  10
3)
Name: Joseph Carpenter
Event Place: Not Stated, Lincoln, North Carolina
Page Number: 175
Affiliate Publication Number: M19
Affiliate Film Number: 122
GS Film number: 0018088
Digital Folder Number: 004409462
Image Number: 00343
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1830," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHGR-MCF : accessed 5 May 2015), Joseph Carpenter, Not Stated, Lincoln, North Carolina; citing p. 175, NARA microfilm publication M19, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 122; FHL microfilm 18,088.
4)
Name: Joseph Carpenter
Event Place: Not Stated, Lincoln, North Carolina
Page Number: 255
Affiliate Publication Number: M19
Affiliate Film Number: 122
GS Film number: 0018088
Digital Folder Number: 004409462
Image Number: 00502
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1830," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHGR-SRY : accessed 5 May 2015), Joseph Carpenter, Not Stated, Lincoln, North Carolina; citing p. 255, NARA microfilm publication M19, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 122; FHL microfilm 18,088.

GRAVE:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=21995111
Joseph Carpenter
Birth:  unknown   ---------------> Aged 86 years
Death:  Jan. 24, 1839     
Burial:
Knob Creek United Methodist Church Cemetery
Belwood
Cleveland County
North Carolina, USA
 
Created by: Sharon
Record added: Oct 06, 2007
Find A Grave Memorial# 21995111

EMAIL:
From: Robert Carpenter
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2015 2:34 PM
To: John R Carpenter 2 ; mjoyce@united.net
Cc: John 00 Chandler ; Terry 00 Carpenter ; Bobby Carpenter ; Ron Carroll ; Larry Zimmerman ; Richard (Dick) Zimmerman ; john schmeeckle
Subject: Re: Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project - 386630 lineage update - Group 5 unattached
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!
At long last the lineage is settled. The first person in North Carolina to suggest that Joseph and Samuel, brothers who married Eaker sisters, were not English as some had supposed was Bonnie Mauney Summers. It was Lorena Eaker in her Eaker history, who located the German signature of Joseph and provided other proof to indicate that Joseph and Samuel were in fact Zimmermans. When I printed my book, Carpenters A Plenty, I stated as such and offered the proof that Lorena and I had located in our research. Yet, some simply refused "to believe" this lineage. I always say when one writes a book, an article, or creates a written account, that it will be believed forever!
It was clear to me that DNA would prove the lineage once and for all, and am thankful that Horace was motivated to be tested. Whoever encouraged him, I offer my thanks.
There is still some mystery with this family. We do not have the name of the father of Joseph, Samuel and Salome who married John Stucky/Stucki and resided in I think Ohio. All three siblings came to North Carolina and owned land in the Knob Creek area.
On Feb 21, 1798, "Margaret Gacklin" of Elizabeth Township, Lancaster County, PA wrote her will in which she devised to "my three children . . . Sons Joseph Zimmerman & Samuel Zimmerman and Daughter Salome Stucky". She also mentioned that son in law John Stucky was executor.
My Pennsylvania research indicates that Elizabeth (uncertain maiden name) married a Zimmerman and then married Dietrich (Didie) Caquelin (Gockley) around 1772. No trace of her first husband has been located. I believe that he must have been one of the passengers or son of a passenger of the pink Plaisance which arrived 1732. The Caquelin family resided in Alsace among the Zimmermans and other Swiss Amish, who had moved there. The surname is variously spelled, may have a French origin, but in the parish records I perused they appeared to speak German and attended German Protestant churches. Quite a number of the surname moved to America. Dietrich arrived in 1736 on the Princess Augusta with the Deppens, Ruchtis, and other Swiss who had lived in Alsace. I say all of this for the benefit of our Zimmerman research group.
Samuel moved to Barren County, Kentucky where he became quite prominent politically and economically. Some of his descendants traveled to central Missouri with so many other Carpenters and family members.
Bringing these families together in our Group 5 is a wonderful accomplishment. Thanks to everyone who assisted with this process!
Robert Carpenter


Susanna Eakers

GRAVE:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=21995100
Susanah Carpenter
Birth:  unknown
Death:  Oct. 27, 1825   
Burial:
Knob Creek United Methodist Church Cemetery
Belwood
Cleveland County
North Carolina, USA
 
Created by: Sharon
Record added: Oct 06, 2007
Find A Grave Memorial# 21995100


Peter Mull

Left issue.


4044. Joseph Carpenter

CENSUS: 1800 US Census
Name: Joseph Carpenter
Event Place: Morgan, Rutherford, North Carolina
Page Number: 104
Affiliate Publication Number: M32
Affiliate Film Number: 33
GS Film number: 337909
Digital Folder Number: 004440861
Image Number: 00416
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1800," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHRW-HCS : accessed 5 May 2015), Joseph Carpenter, Morgan, Rutherford, North Carolina; citing p. 104, NARA microfilm publication M32, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 33; FHL microfilm 337,909.
Name: Joseph Carpenter Home in 1800 (City, County, State): Morgan, Rutherford, North Carolina Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 1 Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44: 1 Number of Household Members Under 16: 1 Number of Household Members Over 25: 2 Number of Household Members: 3

CENSUS: 1810 US Census
Name: Joseph Carpenter
Event Place: Not Stated, Rutherford, North Carolina
Page Number: 359 1/2
Line Number: 140
Affiliate Publication Number: M252
Affiliate Film Number: 42
GS Film number: 0337915
Digital Folder Number: 004433475
Image Number: 00177
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1810," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHL9-FVF : accessed 5 May 2015), Joseph Carpenter, Not Stated, Rutherford, North Carolina; citing p. 359 1/2, NARA microfilm publication M252 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 42; FHL microfilm 337,915.
Name: Joseph Carpenter Home in 1810 (City, County, State): Rutherford, North Carolina Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 5 Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44 : 1 Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44: 1 Numbers of Slaves: 1 Number of Household Members Under 16: 6 Number of Household Members Over 25: 2 Number of Household Members: 9

GRAVE:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=21995094
Joseph Carpenter
Birth:  unknown
Death:  Oct. 11, 1845   -----> 1815 on headstone!!!  Aged 26 years = abt 1889
Burial:
Knob Creek United Methodist Church Cemetery
Belwood
Cleveland County
North Carolina, USA
 
Created by: Sharon
Record added: Oct 06, 2007
Find A Grave Memorial# 21995094


1575. Joseph Carpenter

Number 322 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 86
Family on page 159 (#144)

He moved from Hopewell to Bucks county, PA and after the death of his father,
to North Carolina in 1775 and located in Irvon: afterwards to Ruthford (now
Cleveland county).  They were both buried at Knob Creek, Cleveland county, NC.
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The last paragraph above is likely correct for the Group 5 Joseph Carpenter.

NOTE:
A descendant of Joseph Carpenter-13138 was Y-DNA tested via the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project and found to match genetically with Group 5, a Zimmerman line for Switzerland.  And not Group 3 of the Rehoboth, MA line. That Joseph has been removed as a son of Hezekiah Carpenter-12823.  ID (RINs) numbers after the surname reflect assigned numbers in the main Carpenter Cousins database.

There had been a concern that the Joseph in the CM and the genealogical descendants assigned were done in error. This has been confirmed and this is the reason for this note. May 2015 JRC


1577. William H. Carpenter

SEE:  
Please see the RIN 124706 John Carpenter folder under Articles & such in the CE. This has the related attachments.JRC
E-MAIL:  
From: Larry Carpenter
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 1:41 PM
To: Jeffrey Carpenter ; Randall Carpenter ; Lori Frederick ; R. L. Robe ; John 00 Chandler ; Terry 00 Carpenter ; John R. Carpenter
Subject: Re: Follow-up on John (124706) ... a proposal for consideration to identify his lineage (2)
At least I believe we narrowed down the father of John (124706); and, we do not need to chase another John as I believe the evidence clearly points to the fact that William was the father of John (124706) … I did not think the YDNA supported Samuel's William, but it did seem to be logical … interesting thought about Hezekiah; dates seem to match up … not sure how to go about proofing the linkage, but was not sure I would ever know who was the father of John (124706) …. get back with you in the coming months when I dig into this a little more
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On ‎Sunday‎, ‎July‎ ‎15‎, ‎2018‎ ‎01‎:‎19‎:‎30‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EDT, John R. Carpenter wrote:
Larry, All,
Larry fantastic work! But ...
William Carpenter-5051 is Number 345 in the Carpenter Memorial. Page 88.
William Carpenter enlisted in the Orange Co. Militia 17 Mar 1759, age 20, born Goshen, a hatter by trade, served under Capt. Colvin Bradner. source - Muster Rolls of New York Porvincil Troops 1755-1764, by New York Historical Society, 1892, p. 156-157.
He has no family listed in the Carpenter Memorial.
His ancestry is ...
William Carpenter-5051
Samuel Carpenter-4963
Samuel Carpenter-3341
John Carpenter-587 <--------- He is the father of Hope Carpenter-12716
William Carpenter-584 (immigrant ancestor of Group 3) <----- Brother of Hope C-12716
IF both William C-5051 (b. abt 1668) and the descendants of Hope C-12716 (b. abt 1660/1662) ALL had the sub-group 3a mutations, then so should the rest of the children of their common father John C-587.
IF John C-587 (the father) had those markers then (again) the rest of his sons should have them also. Sadly, we do not see this.
His son John C-12521 has two descendants tested and they (FTDNA # 471861 and 602479) do not have the sub-group 3a mutations.
His son Samuel C-3341 has two descendants tested and they (FTDNA # 358096 and 233371) do not have the sub-group 3a mutations.
There are the very rare situations of latter sons having a mutation different from their father and other male siblings. But Hope C-12716 was the posited second male child of the family and William later as number four. This means it does not fit the very rare pattern at all.
The conclusion is that we have the wrong William Carpenter based on the Y-DNA markers of descendants.
But there is another maybe possibility ...
It is the unknown descendants of Hezekiah Carpenter-12772 (b. abt 1690/1693 NY) who is a son of Hope C-12716.
Number 84 in the Carpenter Memorial. Page 61
His family was dropped in the above record. Children listed for corrections
only. See Number 326a in the CM and family number 47. There are extensive
corrections on several pages in the errata (Additions and Corrections) section.
And further research indicates that Number 326a and more specifically the two children listed are incorrect also. Samuel and Joseph are listed as sons there. That Joseph had a descendant Y-DNA tested and was found to be part of the Group 5 line! Odds are so was his brother.
This simply means the children listed for Hezekiah C-12772 in the Carpenter Memorial are not his.
In my notes are a series of emails from Mike Morrissey from 2004. See the attached email.rtf
Mike provides a theory that Hezekiah C-12772 did indeed marry but died in Oct/Nov 1713 before his wife Abigail gave birth.
He shows that a Hezekiah Carpenter (Jr.), daughter of Abigail was baptized across the River from New Jersey on 15 Jun 1714 at the Dutch Reformed Church of Bensalem, Bensalem, Buck, Pennsylvania. ***
I have designated this Hezekiah (Jr.) as Hezekiah Carpenter-198784. If he was about age 25 when he married, this would be about 1739. Nothing found on him. Did he go South?
Of all the children and grandchildren of Hope C-12716, these two Hezekiahs (father and son) are real mysteries.
Could Hezekiah C-198784 (chr June 1714 PA) have been the father of William Carpenter (b. abt 1740ish and who died in 1807 in or near present day Fairmont, WV) cited by Larry? This would follow the Y-DNA bread trail, er Y-DNA mutational line.
Speculative Y-DNA line ...
Hope Carpenter-12716 (b. abt 1660/1662 NY – d. Jan/Mar 1712 NY)
Hezekiah Carpenter-12772 (b. abt 1693 NY – d. Oct/Nov 1713 NJ)
Hezekiah Carpenter-198784 (chr June 1714 PA – d. ? ? ) <--------- How can this be proved?
William Carpenter(no ID number yet) (b. abt 1740ish ? – d. 1807 WV
John Carpenter-124706 (b. abt 1765 NY – d. abt June/Jul 1826 WV)
Curious.
John R. Carpenter
NOTE:  Fairmont is in present day Marion County, WV.
Marion County was created in 1842 from Harrison and Monongalia Counties.
Harrison was created in 1784 out of Monongalia County.
Monongalia County was created in 1776 out of the district of Augusta.

E-MAIL: Some part proven wrong removed from the email below. JRC
From: Larry Carpenter
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 6:53 AM
To: Jeffrey Carpenter ; Randall Carpenter ; Lori Frederick ; R. L. Robe ; John R. Carpenter ; John 00 Chandler ; Terry 00 Carpenter
Subject: Follow-up on John (124706) ... a proposal for consideration to identify his lineage
ALL: I know it is summer and most of us have other things ongoing … but, after my Friday visit to the Marion County (WV) Genealogy room and, going over some previous research, I believe there is good evidence to consider that John's (124706) father is William Carpenter …
I have several electronic copies of deeds/tax/land/census/etc. records that I have accumulated over the last few months, I have attached a few of the key documents … and, my reasoning to suggest that William was the father of John (124706) and ... is is as follows:
1) In the late 1930s, President Roosevelt created the Work Progress Administration (WPA); WPA did more than simply build things … attached is a photocopy of the 1940s WPA Maple Grove Cemetery record which includes the name of William Carpenter who was born 1935 [1735], died 1807, and the record contains a note that he was in the Revolutionary War … William is grouped in the WPA record with the family of David (125340) and Sarah Carpenter … there is another record in the Marion County Genealogy room that indicates that David (125340) was buried with his grandfather William, this would infer that William was the father of John (124706) since John (124706) was the father of David (125340).
2) William's death in 1807 was two years after John (124706) purchased property on Prickett's Creek in what is now Fairmont WV … Maple Grove Cemetery was located within a few miles of John's (124706) homestead; approximately half way between the homestead and the center of town … attached is a photocopy of the 56 acres purchased by William Miller and John Carpenter in 1805.
3) ...
4) Family records always have indicated that John (124706) was born in Jamaica NY; this is the same location that William was born … Family records and census records indicate that the first two children of John (124706) and Ann was born in NY
5) It is well recognized that the uprising prior to and during the Rev. War forced people to relocate … many Carpenter's relocated to areas west of Long Island, i.e., NY and NJ … Orange County NY is an area that boarders NJ … Goshen is located in Orange County; thus, it is logical to believe that William (and, possibly his children were born in Jamaica, Long Island) relocated to Goshen to get away from the uprising that was occurring in New York City area … and, Warwick Township is about 8 miles south of Goshen; Warwick is significant in that is where it is believed that John (124706) first shows up in a 1790 Census
6) John and Ann are believed to be listed in a 1790 Warwick NY Census, i.e., the ages of John, Ann, their son, and their daughter mimic the family that ultimately moved to (W)V in the 1790s or early 1800s … Warwick is about 8 miles south of Goshen … the one issue with the 1790 Warwick Census is that there was another male identified in the household -- it is herby suggested that this additional male was John's father William, and that William accompanied John and Ann when they moved to (W)V … attached is a copy of the 1790 Warwick NY census which indicates that in the household of a John was two adult males, one adult woman, and two children; in 1790 the son of John (124706) and Ann was John S who would have been about 3 years old; their daughter Jane was about one
7) Although belief is that John (124706) was descended through Hope (12716) because of the common use of the name "Ashman" in John's (124706) descendants … it might be a stretch, but the proposed father of John (124706) is William and ... who was first cousins with Ashman (12769) … Samuel's (4963) father was also a Samuel (3341); and Ashman's (12769) father was Hope (12716) … Samuel (3341) and Hope (12716) were brothers; Hope married Mary Ashman … it is reasonable to believe that the brothers (Samuel and Hope) remained close; and, further that their children (Samuel and Ashman) saw each other at family gatherings … William (my suggestion that he was father of John (124706)) undoubtedly was familiar and/or heard the name "Ashman" many times while growing up; it is reasonable to believe that William like the name and could have suggested to John (124706) to name one of his son's Ashman … John (124706) and Ann named their 2nd child Ashman (125406); and, the name Ashman shows up many times in the descendants of John and Ann
8) I am not sure how all of the above matches with YDNA … [ the proposed father of William was proven incorrect - JRC] but, the 5 of us that are descendants of John (124706) have a unique YDNA commonality, and that YDNA commonality also shows up in the descendants of Ashman (21897) … in looking at Samuel's (3341) YDNA, I do NOT see the distinguishing factors that the five of us share … thus, the science may not support my theory
Bottom-Line: although I am not clear about the YDNA tracking … I do believe that William was the father of John (124706) … possibly there is another William born in 1735 that descended from Hope … however, there are a lot of factors that connect William to the Samuel lines … I am open for thoughts to agree/refute, but at this point, I propose that CC consider the lineage for John (124706) to be
William (584)  <---- yes (JRC)
John (587) <--- yes
Samuel (3341) -  <---- no
Samuel (4963) <---- no
William (???)
John (124706)
------------------------------------------------------------
On ‎Friday‎, ‎July‎ ‎13‎, ‎2018‎ ‎05‎:‎16‎:‎48‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EDT, Larry Carpenter wrote:
John/John/Terry: FYI … latest finding felt to be significant for our quasi group 3-A
Jeff/Randall/Lori/Ron: Currently dealing with outside projects, family outings, etc.... I need to find time to document a lot of things I pulled together in Mar/Apr/May and send each of you some packages of information, i.e., (1) courthouse photocopies of deeds/tax/land records for John (124706), (2) an overall analysis of children of John and Ann in an effort to identify some candidates from their oldest son in hopes we could get a Y-DNA test, and (3) research into Warwick NY where we think John and Ann began their marriage … BUT, thanks to Ron Robe (first cousin of Tim who was the most recent DNA tester that mimics our DNA; Ron's mother was a Carpenter), I have verified some information that I think all of you will find VERY interesting.
Ron pointed me to some WPA cemetery records showing a William H Carpenter who was born in 1735 and died/buried in Maple Grove Cemetery in Fairmont WV … in searching the web-based find-a-grave sites, William H does not show up … but in the records contained in the Marion County Genealogical Society there is a 1940s WPA Cemetery record's book that clearly shows William, and he is grouped with his grandson's family, i.e., David
Significance of this is
1) Some of us have been trying to link another John to be the father of John (124706); however, new evidence points to the fact that his father might have been William … John show's up as buying property in 1805 Monongalia (now Marion) County, William H died in 1807 in Monongalia County
2) WPA records indicate William H was a veteran of the Rev. War; and, that he was born around 1735 … we have previously discussed the possibility that John (124706) was probably born around 1765 --> William would have been 30 years old in 1765 when John (124706) was born
3) There are notes that indicate that William was buried in Maple Grove Cemetery as was his grandson David (128096); the WPA records group William together with David
4) Warwick NY 1790 census lists a family headed by John with a female, a son, and a daughter; these four fit the characteristics of John and Ann … the one anomaly to this logic was there was another elderly male in the house --> this might have been William
I plan to continue research into legal and land records to see if John (124706) and/or William appear in Monongalia County in the 1790s
ACTION: I would appreciate your thoughts and mind to begin to think about a William born in 1735 who might have had a son named John ...
Larry


1582. Jesse Carpenter

Jesse's children were probably born in Chester, N.Y.2  SOUR S203
3  TEXT pg 283


4049. Joseph Carpenter

He had five children.


Olive Taylor

Olive was living in Elmira in 1887 with her son Joseph Barney
and she was 92 years old.2  SOUR S203
3  TEXT pg 283


1583. James Carpenter

On the church records the name Colvill is spelled Colvill and Calvin;  in his father's will it is Colvill.
No children given for James.
Did he have a son named Jesse who married a Emma Sayer and had Sally Carpenter b. 1820 in Chester, Orange, NY?


1584. Benjamin Carpenter

MILITARY:
Benjamin Carpenter served in the American Revolution,
He fought in the battle of Montgomery, NY on the Hudson River bank against
Britsh General Sir Henry Clinton, and Earl.  The Carpenter cousins named
Clinton (Gen. James Clinton and Gen. George Clinton) were fighting their
British Cousins.

This family line submitted by John E. Proctor (brn 1933) of Stillwell KS 4/96

CITATION:
Name: Benjamin Carpenter
Residence Date: 1775
Residence Place: Goshen, Orange, New York, United States
Source Citation
American Archives (Series), 1774-1777 - Excerpts; Author: Force, Peter; Publication Place: Washington, D.C.; Publisher: Peter Force; Page Number: 590
Source Information
Ancestry.com. New York, Genealogical Records, 1675-1920 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004.
Original data:
For individual sources please see the source information listed with each record. Many of the source documents are available in the Genealogical Research Library collection or at the Family History Library.

CENSUS: 1790 US Census
Name: Benjamin Carpenter
Home in 1790 (City, County, State): Goshen, Orange, New York
Free White Persons - Males - Under 16: 3
Free White Persons - Males - 16 and over: 1
Free White Persons - Females: 2
Number of Household Members: 6
Source Citation
Year: 1790; Census Place: Goshen, Orange, New York; Series: M637; Roll: 6; Page: 373; Image: 334; Family History Library Film: 0568146
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1790 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: First Census of the United States, 1790 (NARA microfilm publication M637, 12 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.

TAX: 1799
Name: Benjamin Carpenter
Assessment Year: 1799 (1800, 1801)
Assessment Place: Goshen, Orange, New York, USA
Residence Year: 1799
Residence Place: New York, USA
Source Information
Ancestry.com. New York, Tax Assessment Rolls of Real and Personal Estates, 1799-1804 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
Original data: New York (State), Comptroller's Office. Tax Assessment Rolls of Real and Personal Estates, 1799–1804. Series B0950 (26 reels). Microfilm. New York State Archives, Albany, New York.

CENSUS: 1800 US Census
Name: Benjamin Carpenter
Home in 1800 (City, County, State): Goshen, Orange, New York
Free White Persons - Males -10 thru 15: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25: 2
Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44: 1
Number of Household Members Under 16: 2
Number of Household Members Over 25: 2
Number of Household Members: 6
Source Citation
Year: 1800; Census Place: Goshen, Orange, New York; Series: M32; Roll: 21; Page: 362; Image: 369; Family History Library Film: 193709
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1800 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: Second Census of the United States, 1800. NARA microfilm publication M32 (52 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.

CENSUS: 1810 US Census
Name: Benjn Carpenter
Home in 1810 (City, County, State): Goshen, Orange, New York
Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over : 1
Number of All Other Free Persons: 1
Number of Household Members Over 25: 2
Number of Household Members: 3
Source Citation
Year: 1810; Census Place: Goshen, Orange, New York; Roll: 29; Page: 504; Image: 00278; Family History Library Film: 0181383
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1810 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: Third Census of the United States, 1810. (NARA microfilm publication M252, 71 rolls). Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.

CENSUS: 1820 US Census - not found in Goshen, maybe living with a son or daughter?

DEATH:

E-MAIL: Either this Benjamin or his father was listed as a executor in the
following will. (Submitted on Wed, 12 Jan 2000 From: MzCortez@aol.com)
Abstracts of Wills Vol V 1754-1760, page 159 & 160:
Page 210.--In the name of God, Amen. I, SAMUEL GALIE, of Goshen, in Orange
County, being weak in body, February 14, 1756. I leave to my son Samuel 5
shillings. I leave to my son Richard my dwelling house I now live in in the
town of Goshen, and a piece of land lying near Thomas Sayres, which I
purchased of Thomas Mapes. I leave to my son Asa my house and land I
purchased of John Carp in Goshen, Also my two West Division lots of land. I
leave to my daughter Juliana, wife of George De Kay, 5 shillings. To my wife
Elizabeth the choice of my negroes, and to my daughter Dorithy the second
choice. "And as my wife is now pregnant, the child, if it lives, is to have
the third choice." All the remainder of my estate I leave to my wife and
children. I make my wife, and William Worthrinton, of Saybrook, and John
Galie, of Goshen, and Benjamin Carpenter, of Goshen, and Henry Usonow,
executors.
Witnesses, Joseph Wood, Israel Parshall, Jonathan Cory, Jr. Proved, February
28, 1757.


Lydia Chandler

This family line submitted by John E. Proctor (brn 1933) of Stillwell KS 4/96


4054. Jeremy Carpenter

NAME: Frank Bradner has Jeremy as James in his record.  He also provided the spouse.
From: "frank bradner"
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 5:27 PM

NOTE:  There was an "Uncle" James Carpenter who also married a Julia Owens.  Thus this marriage is probably in error and James is incorrect.


4055. Samuel Carpenter

Baptisim record comes from Rutenber's "History of the Presbyterian Church,
Goshen NY"

This family line submitted by John E. Proctor (brn 1933) of Stillwell KS 4/96


1587. James Carpenter

Number 994 in the Carpenter Memorial.  No family listed.

E-MAIL:
From: "Dennis Carpenter"
To:
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] 1817 Will of James Carpenter of Goshen, NY
...
The James Carpenter I was looking for married Julia Owen and died
between 1815-1829, his son, Benjamin Carpenter, was the first mayor of
Lockport, Niagara Co., NY.
Dennis Carpenter


E-MAIL: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 From: "Marcia Buffett"
Dear John:
Found this at the Fonda Archives today in a book entitled "Calendar of
Wills". I love it because it is a collection of way back stuff that we can
no longer actually get our hands on.
I'm researching the Dunning family who lived in the same area as my
Carpenter family, ie. Hope and Northville, Hamilton Co. NY. Came across
this:
Will of Jacob Dunning written 1770 Oct 15, probated Nov. 1, 1770 of Goshen
precint, Orange Co., NY yeoman, mentions son John, Jacob and Benjamin,
dau.. Bathsheba, Mehitabel and Mary. Real estate some in Wawayanda Patent
and personal property. Exec. 3 sons Witnesses: James Carpenter of Orange
co, schoolmaster, John Conkling and Elizabeth Dunning.
Don't know if you had all those Orange Co. Carpenter's or not but if you
do, here is a tidbit for James..at least now we know he was a schoolmaster!
Marcia   (NOTE: THIS DATA PROBABLY FOR THE JAMES CARPENTER B. 1752 IN GOSHEN, ORANGE, NY.)


1596. Joseph Carpenter

BIRTH: Name: Joseph Carpenter
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 20 Jul 1777
Christening Place: First Presbyterian Church, Goshen, Orange, New York
Birth Date: 01 Jun 1777
Birthplace: First Presbyterian Church, Goshen, Orange, New York
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Joseph Carpenter
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C53093-2
System Origin: New York-EASy
GS Film number: 1310908
Reference ID: 2:NQBV71
Citing this Record:
"New York, Births and Christenings, 1640-1962," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FDLS-LFS : accessed 25 Mar 2014), Joseph Carpenter in entry for Joseph Carpenter, 01 Jun 1777; citing First Presbyterian Church, Goshen, Orange, New York, reference 2:NQBV71; FHL microfilm 1310908.

CENSUS: 1790 US Census
Name: Joseph Carpenter Junior
Home in 1790 (City, County, State): Goshen, Orange, New York
Free White Persons - Males - Under 16: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 16 and over: 2
Free White Persons - Females: 5
Number of Household Members: 8
Source Citation
Year: 1790; Census Place: Goshen, Orange, New York; Series: M637; Roll: 6; Page: 373; Image: 334; Family History Library Film: 0568146
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1790 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: First Census of the United States, 1790 (NARA microfilm publication M637, 12 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.

Is the same person as below?
E-MAIL: 10 AUG 2000 from: Carolyn Bayer mabayer@borg.com
I have a copy of a land deed of Joseph Carpenter, JR made in 1800 where
he and Jesse Carpenter bought some land in Washington County.
It says Joseph JR is a farmer. It doesn't say where they came from
but Joseph was on the future census there and Jesse was not.
Joseph on 1810 and 1820. Last time Joseph was on, he
died in 1820. His family remained on in the following years. I also
have a copy of a land indenture made August 30, 1827. It was made by
his children to settle the estate of Joseph. It states that Joseph
died about 7 years ago. Seems that Solomon Thurston was granted
letters of administration and it was never done.  Here are the
children of Fannie Crandle and Joseph Carpenter: Sally b. 1796 m. Asa
Lanfear, Betsey b. 1797 m. Ephraim Holley (my line), James m. Alma no
dates, Clark C b. 1801 m. Deborah, Joseph III b. 1802 m. Lydia Baker,
Laura b. 1807 m. Albro Tripp and Thomas b. 1808 who m. Arsu (Ursala)
Evarts. Joseph was a minor at the time his father died. Joseph III and
Lydia loss their son Joseph in the Civil War. The AF has Thomas who m.
Ursala Evarts b. 1818 or something like that. They are on many census
and their age also is on the census. He and the Carpenter family
(meaning the ones listed here) are on the Warren County census for
many years. From the dates of birth of their children I imagine Fannie
and Joseph were m. circa 1795 and if they were around 18-20 at that
time it would seem like that Joseph could have been born in 1777. How
do I find out from the land deed where he came from?  I really believe
my Joseph could have come from the Orange County family. I am running
out of clues. Thanks again for everything.
Carolyn Bayer mabayer@borg.com


4067. Thomas Carpenter

...  The AF has Thomas who m. Ursala Evarts b. 1818 or something like that. They are on many census
and their age also is on the census. He and the Carpenter family (meaning the ones listed here) are on the Warren County census for many years.


1598. George Alexander Carpenter

CENSUS: 1850 US Census - See image: RIN 88857 George Carpenter 1850 ... jpg
Name: George A Carpenter
Residence: St. Mary's, Maryland
Age: 55 years
Estimated birth year: 1795
Birthplace: Maryland
Gender: Male
Race or color (on document):
Race or color (expanded):
Death month:
Death date:
Film number: 443527
Image number: 00435
Reference number: 7
Dwelling: 1412
Household id: 1360
Marital status:
Free or slave:
Collection: United States Census, 1850

GRAVE:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=42593500
George E Carpenter ----------Looks like George A to me.
Birth:  1792
Death:  Jul. 2, 1852  -----------------------21 not 2
St. Mary's County
Maryland, USA  
Family links:
 Spouse:
 Eleanor Carpenter (1800 - 1879)*
 Children:
 Samuel Parrish Carpenter (1828 - 1836)*
 Joseph Carpenter (1832 - 1853)*
 Thomas Benjamin Carpenter (1834 - 1847)*
 Jane E Carpenter (1842 - 1842)*
*Calculated relationship
Inscription:
age 60 years  
Burial:
Bethel Cemetery
Budds Creek
St. Mary's County
Maryland, USA
 
Created by: RosalieAnn
Record added: Oct 01, 2009
Find A Grave Memorial# 42593500


Eleanor Hayden

NAME: Listed as Ellen in the 1850 US Census.

GRAVE:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=42593499
Eleanor Carpenter
Birth:  1800
Death:  Jan. 20, 1879  
Family links:
 Spouse:
 George E Carpenter (1792 - 1852)
 Children:
 Samuel Parrish Carpenter (1828 - 1836)*
 Joseph Carpenter (1832 - 1853)*
 Thomas Benjamin Carpenter (1834 - 1847)*
 Jane E Carpenter (1842 - 1842)*
*Calculated relationship
Inscription:
wife of Geo. Carpenter
died aged 79 tears  
Burial:
Bethel Cemetery
Budds Creek
St. Mary's County
Maryland, USA
  
Created by: RosalieAnn
Record added: Oct 01, 2009
Find A Grave Memorial# 42593499


4075. Samuel Parish Carpenter

GRAVE:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=42593508
Samuel Parrish Carpenter
Birth:  1828, USA
Death:  Oct. 13, 1836
St. Mary's County
Maryland, USA  
Family links:
 Parents:
 George E Carpenter (1792 - 1852)
 Eleanor Carpenter (1800 - 1879)
 Siblings:
 Samuel Parrish Carpenter (1828 - 1836)
 Joseph Carpenter (1832 - 1853)*
 Thomas Benjamin Carpenter (1834 - 1847)*
 Jane E Carpenter (1842 - 1842)*
*Calculated relationship
Inscription:
Son of George & Eleanor Carpenter
age 8 years  
Burial:
Bethel Cemetery
Budds Creek
St. Mary's County
Maryland, USA
 
Created by: RosalieAnn
Record added: Oct 01, 2009
Find A Grave Memorial# 42593508


4076. George Hennning Carpenter

NOTE: Baltimore, MD was Founded in 1729. It was Incorporated 1796–1797 and became an Independent city in 1851. It was named for: Cecilius Calvert, second Lord Baltimore, (1605–1675)


4077. Joseph Carpenter

GRAVE:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=42593503
Joseph Carpenter
Birth:  1832
Death:  Jun. 20, 1853  
Family links:
 Parents:
 George E Carpenter (1792 - 1852)
 Eleanor Carpenter (1800 - 1879)
 Siblings:
 Samuel Parrish Carpenter (1828 - 1836)*
 Joseph Carpenter (1832 - 1853)
 Thomas Benjamin Carpenter (1834 - 1847)*
 Jane E Carpenter (1842 - 1842)*
*Calculated relationship
Inscription:
Son of George A & Eleanor Carpenter
age 20 years 6 months and 23 days
Burial:
Bethel Cemetery
Budds Creek
St. Mary's County
Maryland, USA
 
Created by: RosalieAnn
Record added: Oct 01, 2009
Find A Grave Memorial# 42593503


4078. Thomas Benjamin Carpenter

GRAVE:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=42593509
Thomas Benjamin Carpenter
Birth:  1834
Maryland, USA
Death:  Feb. 15, 1847
St. Mary's County
Maryland, USA  
Family links:
 Parents:
 George E Carpenter (1792 - 1852)
 Eleanor Carpenter (1800 - 1879)
 Siblings:
 Samuel Parrish Carpenter (1828 - 1836)*
 Joseph Carpenter (1832 - 1853)*
 Thomas Benjamin Carpenter (1834 - 1847)
 Jane E Carpenter (1842 - 1842)*
*Calculated relationship
Inscription:
son of George J & Eleanora Carpenter
aged 12 years 8 mons
Note: broken stone   
Burial:
Bethel Cemetery
Budds Creek
St. Mary's County
Maryland, USA
 
Created by: RosalieAnn
Record added: Oct 01, 2009
Find A Grave Memorial# 42593509


4079. Charles Lewis Carpenter

Civil War death?


4082. Jane E. Carpenter

BIRTH:  given date is 8 Feb 1842 - but ... headstone indicates a calulated birth of 8 Jan 1842. See below.

GRAVE:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=42593501
Jane E Carpenter
Birth:  1842
Death:  May 11, 1842
St. Mary's County
Maryland, USA  
Family links:
 Parents:
 George E Carpenter (1792 - 1852)
 Eleanor Carpenter (1800 - 1879)
 Siblings:
 Samuel Parrish Carpenter (1828 - 1836)*
 Joseph Carpenter (1832 - 1853)*
 Thomas Benjamin Carpenter (1834 - 1847)*
 Jane E Carpenter (1842 - 1842)
*Calculated relationship
Inscription:
age 4mn and 3da             ---------------------> This calulates out to be 8 Jan 1842
Daughter of George & Eleanor  
Burial:
Bethel Cemetery
Budds Creek
St. Mary's County
Maryland, USA
 
Created by: RosalieAnn
Record added: Oct 01, 2009