34846. Frederick d'Anterroches Carpenter
This family line supplied by John L. Carpenter (born 1945) of NH. (11/96)
BIRTH:
Name: Frederick Carpenter
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 4 Feb 1888
Birth Place: S O , Essex, New Jersey
Father: Marvin H Carpenter
Mother: Virginia Pudney
FHL Film Number: 494210
Source Information
Ancestry.com. New Jersey, Births and Christenings Index, 1660-1931 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data:
"New Jersey Births and Christenings, 1660-1931." Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah, 2009, 2010. Index entries derived from digital copies of original and compiled records.MISC: 1914 - image
Name: Frederick DAnterroches Carpenter
Birth Date: 4 Feb 1889
Birth Place: Maplewood, N.J.
Residence: Mexico
Civil Date: 16 Dec 1914
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Consular Registration Certificates, 1907-1918 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2013.
Original data:
Consular Registration Certificates, compiled 1907–1918. ARC ID: 1244186. General Records of the Department of State, 1763–2002, Record Group 59. National Archives at Washington, D.C.DRAFT: WWI
Name: Frederick D Anterroches Carpenter
[Frederick D'Anterroches Carpenter]
Race: Caucasian (White)
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 4 Feb 1889
Birth Place: New Jersey
Street address: 4 Euclid Ave
Residence Place: Essex, New Jersey, USA
Physical Build: Slender
Height: Tall
Hair Color: Light
Eye Color: Blue
Source Citation
Registration State: New Jersey; Registration County: Essex; Roll: 1712104; Draft Board: 5
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005.
Original data: United States, Selective Service System. World War I Selective Service System Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration. M1509, 4,582 rolls. Imaged from Family History Library microfilm.DRAFT: WWII
Name: Frederick Danterroches Carpenter
Age: 53
Race: White
Birth Date: 4 Feb 1889
Birth Place: Maplewood, New Jersey, USA
Residence Year: 1942
Residence: Toa Alta, Puerto Rico
Source Citation
The National Archives at St. Louis; St. Louis, Missouri; Draft Registration Cards for Fourth Registration for Puerto Rico, 04/27/1942 - 04/27/1942; NAI Number: 2555986; Record Group Title: Records of the Selective Service System; Record Group Number: 147
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
Original data:
United States, Selective Service System. Selective Service Registration Cards, World War II: Fourth Registration. Records of the Selective Service System, Record Group Number 147. National Archives and Records Administration.Social Security Death Index:
Frederick CARPENTER
Birth Date: 4 Feb 1889
Death Date: Jan 1980
Social Security Number: 581-66-4495
State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Puerto Rico
Death Residence Localities
ZIP Code: 00911
Localities: San Juan, San Juan, Puerto Rico
Santurce, San Juan, Puerto Rico
Notes for ETHEL A.NASH: She left 5 young children upon her death ,the youngest was 1 month old. Most went to foster homes. (info source:) Marjore S. ( Nash) Dresden,103 Kendale St. , Bowling Green,Kty 42103-3430.
This family line supplied by John L. Carpenter (born 1945) of NH. (11/96)
Frank was an accountant in Bellrose, LI, NY for Triboro Coach Bus Company ,Queens N.Y.CENSUS: 1900 US Census - with parents
DRAFT: WWI
Name: Frank C Carpenter
Event Type: Draft Registration
Event Date: 1917-1918
Event Place: New York City no 184, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 08 Aug 1897
Birthplace: Brooklyn, New York, United States
Nationality: United States
Affiliate Publication Title: World War I Selective Service System Draft Registration Cards
Affiliate Publication Number: M1509
GS Film number: 1818486
Digital Folder Number: 005265239
Image Number: 04599
Citing this Record:
"United States World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K6JN-LNC : accessed 09 Apr 2014), Frank C Carpenter, 1917-1918; citing New York City no 184, New York, United States, NARA microfilm publication M1509, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d); FHL microfilm 1818486.CENSUS: 1930 US Census
Name: Frank Carpenter
Birth Year: abt 1898
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: New York
Marital status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1930: Queens, Queens, New York, USA
Map of Home: View Map
Street address: Inwood Street
Ward of City: 4th Assembly Dist
Block: D
House Number: 10742
Dwelling Number: 36
Family Number: 39
Home Owned or Rented: Rented
Home Value: 40
Radio Set: No
Lives on Farm: No
Age at first Marriage: 20
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: New York
Mother's Birthplace: New York
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Chauffeur
Industry: Private Family
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker
Employment: Yes
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Carpenter 32
Violet Carpenter 31
Coles Carpenter 11
Wilber Carpenter 10
Beatrice Carpenter 5
Francis Carpenter 8
Neighbors:
Source Citation
Year: 1930; Census Place: Queens, Queens, New York; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 0370; FHL microfilm: 2341333
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1930 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2002.
Original data: United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1930. T626, 2,667 rolls.CENSUS: 1940 US Census
Name: Frank Carpenter
Titles and Terms: Sr
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1940
Event Place: Assembly District 4, Queens, New York City, Queens, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 43
Marital Status: Married
Race (Original): White
Race: White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: New York
Birth Year (Estimated): 1897
Last Place of Residence: Same House
District: 41-1207
Family Number: 94
Sheet Number and Letter: 5A
Line Number: 20
Affiliate Publication Number: T627
Affiliate Film Number: 2743
Digital Folder Number: 005458715
Image Number: 00548
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Frank Carpenter M 43 New York
Wife Violet Carpenter F 40 England
Son Coles Carpenter M 22 New York
Son Wilbur Carpenter M 21 New York
Son Frank Carpenter M 18 New York
Daughter Elizabeth Carpenter F 16 New York
Son Fred Carpenter M 6 New York
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1940," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K79W-QVB : accessed 17 Aug 2013), Frank Carpenter, 1940.CENSUS: 1950 US Census - due out in 2022
CENSUS: 1960 US Census - due out in 2032GRAVE: image
Frank Coles Carpenter
Birth: Aug 1897 Jamaica, Queens County, New York, USA
Death: Aug 1966 (aged 68–69) Lindenhurst, Suffolk County, New York, USA
Burial: Pinelawn Memorial Park, East Farmingdale, Suffolk County, New York, USA
Memorial #: 96262496
Created by: John Carpenter (47753974)
Added: 30 Aug 2012
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/96262496/frank-coles-carpenter
Citation: Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 03 May 2019), memorial page for Frank Coles Carpenter (Aug 1897–Aug 1966), Find A Grave Memorial no. 96262496, citing Pinelawn Memorial Park, East Farmingdale, Suffolk County, New York, USA ; Maintained by John Carpenter (contributor 47753974) .SSDI:
Given Name: Frank
Middle Name:
Surname: Carpenter
Name Suffix:
Birth Date: 8 August 1897
Social Security Number: 096-05-1440
State: New York
Last Place of Residence: Suffolk, New York
Previous Residence Postal Code: 11757
Event Date: August 1966
Age: 69
Citing this Record:
"United States Social Security Death Index," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VMK8-FMF : accessed 09 Apr 2014), null, Aug 1966; citing U.S. Social Security Administration, Death Master File, database (Alexandria, Virginia: National Technical Information Service, ongoing).
A U.S. Citizen.
GRAVE:
Violet Banister Carpenter
Birth: 1898 Manchester, Metropolitan Borough of Manchester, Greater Manchester, England
Death: 1962 (aged 63–64) Queens County, New York, USA
Burial: Pinelawn Memorial Park, East Farmingdale, Suffolk County, New York, USA
Memorial #: 198836171
Family Members
Spouse
Frank Coles Carpenter 1897-1966
Created by: jrcrin001 (48357735)
Added: 3 May 2019
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/198836171/violet-carpenter
Citation: Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 03 May 2019), memorial page for Violet Banister Carpenter (1898–1962), Find A Grave Memorial no. 198836171, citing Pinelawn Memorial Park, East Farmingdale, Suffolk County, New York, USA ; Maintained by jrcrin001 (contributor 48357735) .
42179. Elizabeth Beatrice "Betty" Carpenter
Notes for BEATRICE CARPENTER:
BIRTH: Birth year not known. Month and day ok. Age 16 (b. abt. 1924) and listed as Elizabeth in 1940 US Census
Also Known as " Betty"
1930 US Census indicates she was 5 yrs old and probably born in 1925
Marriage Notes for BEATRICE CARPENTER and RICHARD DANA:
1 REFN 5028
34870. Leslie Wilbur Carpenter
This family line supplied by John L. Carpenter (born 1945) of NH. (11/96)
CENSUS: 1910 US Census - with parents
CENSUS: 1920 US Census - with parentsCENSUS: 1930 US Census
Name: Leslie Carpenter
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1930
Event Place: Queens (Districts 0251-0500), Queens, New York, United States
District: 0359
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1906
Birthplace: New York
Immigration Year:
Father's Birthplace: New York
Mother's Birthplace: New York
Sheet Number and Letter: 6A
Household ID: 75
Line Number: 38
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: T626
Affiliate Film Number: 1598
GS Film number: 2341333
Digital Folder Number: 004639147
Image Number: 00650
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Leslie Carpenter M 24 New York
Wife Lillian Carpenter F 21 New York
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1930," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X453-MSM : accessed 09 Apr 2014), Leslie Carpenter, Queens (Districts 0251-0500), Queens, New York, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 0359, sheet 6A, family 75, NARA microfilm publication T626, roll 1598.CENSUS: 1940 US Census
Name: Leslie Carpenter
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1940
Event Place: Floral Park, North Hempstead Town, Nassau, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 33
Marital Status: Married
Race (Original): White
Race: White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: New York
Birth Year (Estimated): 1907
Last Place of Residence: Same Place
District: 30-23
Family Number: 64
Sheet Number and Letter: 3B
Line Number: 76
Affiliate Publication Number: T627
Affiliate Film Number: 2683
Digital Folder Number: 005458655
Image Number: 00663
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Leslie Carpenter M 33 New York
Wife Lillian Carpenter F 31 New York
Son Donald Carpenter M 7 New York
Daughter Carole Carpenter F 3 New York
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1940," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K3YB-FM6 : accessed 09 Apr 2014), Leslie Carpenter, Floral Park, North Hempstead Town, Nassau, New York, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 30-23, sheet 3B, family 64, NARA digital publication of T627, roll 2683.SSDI:
Given Name: Leslie
Middle Name: W
Surname: Carpenter
Name Suffix:
Birth Date: 2 March 1906
Social Security Number: 084-10-7918
State: New York
Last Place of Residence: Nassau, New York
Previous Residence Postal Code: 11001
Event Date: 3 November 1988
Age: 82
Citing this Record:
"United States Social Security Death Index," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JTYL-H5M : accessed 09 Apr 2014), null, 03 Nov 1988; citing U.S. Social Security Administration, Death Master File, database (Alexandria, Virginia: National Technical Information Service, ongoing).
42183. Carole Christine Carpenter
This family line supplied by John L. Carpenter (born 1945) of NH. (11/96)
34875. Francis Augustus Carpenter
CENSUS: 1920 US Census - with parents
CENSUS: 1930 US Census - with parentsCENSUS: 1940 US Census
Name: Francis Carpenter
Respondent: Yes
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1916
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: New York
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Jersey City, Hudson, New Jersey
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: Johnson Avenue
House Number: 424
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: Jersey City, Hudson, New Jersey
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Sheet Number: 61B
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 54
Occupation: Machinist
House Owned or Rented: Rented
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 19
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: High School, 1st year
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 42
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 32
Income: 650
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Francis Carpenter 24
Alice Carpenter 21
Patricia Carpenter 2
Francis Carpenter 11/12
Source Citation
Year: 1940; Census Place: Jersey City, Hudson, New Jersey; Roll: T627_2403; Page: 61B; Enumeration District: 24-96
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1940 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012.
Original data: United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Sixteenth Census of the United States, 1940. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1940. T627, 4,643 rolls.CENSUS: 1950 US Census - due out in 2022!
GRAVE:
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=78778347
Francis Augustus Carpenter
Birth: 1915
Death: 1979
Burial:
Saint Josephs Catholic Cemetery and Mausoleums
Toms River
Ocean County
New Jersey, USA
Created by: RobMinteer57
Record added: Oct 20, 2011
Find A Grave Memorial# 78778347NOTE:
He is not ...
Name: Francis Carpenter
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 9 Jul 1915
Death Date: 31 May 1979
SSN: 523017233
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Department of Veterans Affairs BIRLS Death File, 1850-2010 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data: Beneficiary Identification Records Locator Subsystem (BIRLS) Death File. Washington, D.C.: U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs.
That Francis is from Colorado.
Name: Francis Carpenter
SSN: 523-01-7233
Last Residence:
80631 Greeley, Weld, Colorado, USA
BORN: 12 Jul 1915
Died: May 1979
State (Year) SSN issued: Colorado (Before 1951)
Source Citation
Number: 523-01-7233; Issue State: Colorado; Issue Date: Before 1951
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2011.
Original data: Social Security Administration. Social Security Death Index, Master File. Social Security Administration.
Parents
John David Grant 1892–1977
Elizabeth Alice Coghan 1897–1981
Age 7/12 in the 1940 US Census.
DEATH:
Name: Edward W Carpenter
Birth Date: 3 Mar 1922
Birth Place: New Jersey
Death Date: 14 Aug 2011
Death Place: Las Vegas, Clark, Nevada, USA
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Nevada, Death Index, 1980-2012 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2013.
Original data: Nevada State Health Division, Office of Vital Statistics. State Death Index. Nevada Department of Health and Human Services, Carson City, Nevada.SSDI:
Name: Edward W. Carpenter
Last Residence:
89147 Las Vegas, Clark, Nevada
BORN: 23 Mar 1922
Died: 14 Aug 2011
State (Year) SSN issued: New Jersey (Before 1951)
Source Citation
Issue State: New Jersey; Issue Date: Before 1951
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2011.
Original data: Social Security Administration. Social Security Death Index, Master File. Social Security Administration.PRI:
Name: Edward Carpenter
Birth Date: 23 Mar 1922
Address: 106 Sherman Ave, Jersey City, NJ, 07307-2241
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S. Public Records Index, 1950-1993, Volume 2 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
Original data: Voter Registration Lists, Public Record Filings, Historical Residential Records, and Other Household Database Listings.
Not in the Carpenter Family in America book (1901).
Information supplied by Barbara Elizabeth Kardos (no date).
She married twice. Her first husband died in World War two.
Residence: Elmont, LI, NY.
A musician before the war. He was in the U.S. Army when he died.
He is listed as "Dutch".
34882. Edward Malcolme Carpenter Jr.
CENSUS: 1940 US Census - with parents
MARRIAGE: 1956
Name: Edward Malcolm Carpenter
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age: 21
Birth Date: abt 1935
Marriage Date: 3 Nov 1956
Marriage Place: Prince George, Virginia, USA
Registration Place: Prince George, Virginia, USA
Father: Edward Malcolm Carpenter
Mother: Anna Mae Hendricks
Spouse: Eileen Patricia Murphy
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Race: White
Spouse Age: 21
Spouse Father: Martin Murphy
Spouse Mother: Bridget Prendergast
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Virginia, Marriage Records, 1936-2014 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015.
Original data: Virginia, Marriages, 1936-2014. Virginia Department of Health, Richmond, Virginia.MILITARY:
Name: Edward Carpenter
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 7 Dec 1934
Death Date: 11 Jun 2001
SSN: 071284199
Branch 1: ARMY
Enlistment Date 1: 18 May 1956
Release Date 1: 23 May 1958
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Department of Veterans Affairs BIRLS Death File, 1850-2010 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data: Beneficiary Identification Records Locator Subsystem (BIRLS) Death File. Washington, D.C.: U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs.SSAPP:
Name: Edward Malcome Carpenter [Edward M Carpenter]
SSN: 071284199
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Date: 7 Dec 1934
Birth Place: Bronx N Y Br, New York
Death Date: 11 Jun 2001
Father: Edward Carpenter
Mother: Anna Hendrix
Type of Claim: Original SSN.
Notes: Dec 1951: Name listed as EDWARD MALCOME CARPENTER; 14 Jun 2001: Name listed as EDWARD M CARPENTER
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015.
Original data: Social Security Applications and Claims, 1936-2007.SSDI:
Name: Edward M. Carpenter
SSN: 071-28-4199
Last Residence:
10541 Mahopac, Putnam, New York, USA
BORN: 7 Dec 1934
Died: 11 Jun 2001
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (1951-1952)
Source Citation
Number: 071-28-4199; Issue State: New York; Issue Date: 1951-1952
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2011.
Original data: Social Security Administration. Social Security Death Index, Master File. Social Security Administration.PRI:
Name: Edward Malcolm Carpenter Jr
Birth Date: 7 Dec 1934
Phone Number: 295-2320
Address: 1941 Central Pk Av, Yonkers, NY, 10710
[105 Cliffside Dr, Yonkers, NY, 10710-3144 (1982)]
[17 Brookridge Ave, Eastchester, NY, 10709-3503 (1992)]
[17 Brookridge Ave, Eastchester, NY, 10709-3503]
[97 Jonathan Dr, Mahopac, NY, 10541-2205 (1996)]
[204 Alpine Pl, Tuckahoe, NY, 10707-3086 (1996)]
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S. Public Records Index, 1950-1993, Volume 1 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
Original data: Voter Registration Lists, Public Record Filings, Historical Residential Records, and Other Household Database Listings.
REF: 1910 census T-624-roll #678-Vol 91- ED #295-sheet #9A-page #219
dwelling #177-family #177-date of census May 10th, 1910
Census shows her father born in CT, mother born in NYREF: Birth certificate shows date of birth as August 13, 1882, father Edwin
Place, (age at last birth day was 25), mother Emma Carpenter
(age 21), documents that Pearl was their first child.She is buried in the Proctor family plot in Northview Cemetery, Dearborn, MI
Pearl, my grandmother, was from the Place family, who go back
to an American Indian grandmother (Eunice Josephine Long, and to
the John Aldin family who was one of the Mayflower founders.She was born in Petoskey, MI, her father, Edwin Ona Place had worked as a
lumerman during the white pine era. After the white pine had been cut over
her father moved into Petoskey and became a builder. He was involved in
building subdivision type homes. Some time after 1882 he moved his family
to CA. This lasted only one year, they moved back to MI,
purchasing property in Greenfield Township MI. He tried to do some farming
however was not a very good farmer, but apparently had sufficent money from
his home building in Petoskey that he could live on what he had saved.
This family line submitted by John E. Proctor (brn 1933) of Stillwell KS 4/96
REF: 1910 census T-624-roll #678-vol 91-ED #295-sheet #9A-page #219.
dwelling #177-family #177-date of census May 10th, 1910.
Census shows that his father was born in MI mother born in France.FARMS: lived on and worked by Harvey Peter Proctor from 1902 to 1944.
According to Stanley they usually moved by the first of April, this was due to
the fact that feed was running out by then and the spring planting season
was fast approching in that section of the country. Additionally farms
usually were sold in the spring of the year, Harvey would move onto a farm that
someone wanted to sell, stay that summer, or longer, then for whatever reason
could't or wouldn't pay the asking price, and then if the owner had a buyer
they would have to move to a new place.
Pommischackle1903 This is the farm where Stanley was born.
Louis 1904
Padgett 1905
Lathers 1906 Livonia Twp. Plymouth MI.
Truesdale 1908 Plymouth MI.
Smith 1910 Plymouth MI.
Miller 1911 west edge of Plymouth MI.
Murray 1912 Washtenaw Co half way between Plymouth and Ann Arbor
on a dirt trail, now called Curtus Rd. by McCormick lake.
Harvey tried to purchased this farm, but apparently
couldn't pay the full price. I have a contract showing
the price of this farm. Harvey paid $1,000.00 down, and
was to pay $5,000.00 in April of 1912, but apparently he
didn't have the money, they rented for 4 more years.They had
an Ann Arbor mailing address, across road was Plymouth RFD
Harvey had an attack of appendicitis in 1914, recovered in
a few days. Left Murray farm on April 1, 1916, moving to
the Bailey house, on Elm Street, in Trenton MI.
Bailey House 1916 Started a Watkins Liniment Route, this was at the prompting
of his father-in-law, Ed Place, that selling this line of
goods would be a good way to make a living. He never did
have any sucess in this endevour. This only lasted 1 yr.
In Jan 0f 1917, Ira Wilson (Harveys wifes brother in law)
gave him a milk route, as they, the Wilsons, had a large
farm, and had a contract from the Detroit Creamery Co. to
haul milk to the creamery from the stations where the
farmers brought it in. Harvey couldn't start on Jan. 1st
as he was still obligated to the Watkins line, so he hired
the hauling. The first of April, 1917, he finished that
effort and started driving the milk truck himself.
Tents (June 1917) Moved into tents, on Telegraph Road, one-half mile north of
Flat Rock, alongside the RR tracks. It was a wooded area
and Telegraph was then a sand and dirt road. They lived
there until September of 1917. The reason they had to do
this was because he couldn't find a house to live in. The
war was on and housing was so tight they couldn't get a
place to live. (This related by Stanley)
Halls house 1917 Harvey moved the family into this house in September
It was on Huron River Drive, halfway between Flat Rock and
Rockwood. He hauled milk and was doing well, until Jan. 1
of 1918, when a creamery opened up in Monroe, and they took
half of his load. He kept going until April, in mid April
he had a bad attack of apendicitis he wouldn't go to the
hospital, even though the doctor told him he would die. It
broke in a few days, and he was taken to the hospital.
Stanley had to drive the milk truck for a week, until
Harveys wife, Pearl, could make arrangments to have the
truck driven by a neighboring farmer. Harvey was in the
hospital for three weeks, and returned home. The First
World War was going on then and he went down to the Detroit
Ship Building Co, Wyandotte, and got a job as a watchman.
He was still not fully recovered, but could set down and
check the men in and out on this job. He did this for 3
months (received .50 cents per hour), then got a job
maintaing and coaling the steam cranes and locomotives.
He worked from 11:00 PM until 7:00 AM and got paid .70
cents per hour, this was a top wage in the shipyard. He
worked there until April of 1920. He had moved to the
Knight farm in 1919, but didn't do any farming, as Stanley
was by then old enough to do most of the work necessary.
Knight 1919 George Knight farm two miles west of Trenton on West Road
VanSickle 1921 George VanSickle farm on 6 mi. rd. one mile east of Salem MI
It was on this farm that Stanley found many Indian
artifacts, in a field having a large maple tree, he found
many of them under this tree.
Mason 1925 Mason farm on Townline road which is now Joy Road, just
around the corner from the Murray farm that he had once
tried to purchase. On Jan. 1st of 1929, Stanley left this
farm and went to MI State Agricultural College to
enroll in the Short Course of Agriculture, which was a 2
year course in Agriculture.
Munn 1929 Hershel Munn farm on Six mile road one mile west of Salem.
Spaulding 1932 On the Chelsea Manchester Road, now M-52.
Lamming 1935 On Kemner road, north of Manchester
Occidental 1941 On M-50, one mile west of Tecumseh
HOME 1944 Final home, built a house just north of Manchester, on
corner of an 80 acre farm. He never farmed it, was working
as a carpenter, and then was injured in an auto accident,
in 1947, and then quit work alltogether. Subquently sold
the land, retaing a few acres along the road and a small
wooded area, approx. 14 acres. This is now the site of
the Manchester Bank.Harvey was killed in a single vehicle auto accident. He went off the road in
a curve near Grass Lake and was killed. The family did not want an atopsy, at
that time it was not manditory, so none was preformed. There was disagreement
however as to why he died. Some felt that another car, that didn't stop, ran
him off the road, others felt he had a heart attack, while others felt that he
may have been going too fast and couldn't take the curve. No one knows!
Vera was born at Samuel Proctors (her grandfather) farm, he was then living on
Ford road, Plymouth, on March 26, 1907. The Harvey Proctor family was then
living on the Truesdale farm.My father, Stanley, never told me how Vera died, but I was told by Aunt
Florence that it was in child birth.
Her husband, Harold Carley, had wanted to take
her into the hospital but her father, my grandfather Harvey Proctor, exerted
enough control that he didn't do it. She apparently died at birth in the
home. Grandpa Proctor, Harvey, blamed Harold for her death and appar-
ently some very harsh words were exchanged. Harold left soon after the funeral
and was never heard from again according to Stanley and Aunt Florence. I never
heard any reference to Harold Carley aside from this information from Aunt
Florence, and no one talked very much about Aunt Vera.
Harvey, her father, had her maiden name (Proctor), placed on the tombstone and
wouldn't recognize her husband Harold. Harold later moved back to Canada where
he was from, no one ever admitted they heard for him again although Aunt
Florence had his death date.
They were married May 1, 1929 in Salem, Washtenaw MI
Harold Carley married Vera Mae Proctor on May 1, 1929, in Salem, MI
For all practical purposes no one admits ever hearing of Harold
after Veras death. Aunt Florence seemed to have some knowldge about him. It
would seem appropate that with Vera being Florences older sister, 3 or 4 years
apart, that they may have been close enough so that when she died, Florence
kept in touch with Harold Carley, but wouldn't admit it to anyone? Who knows?
except Aunt Florence, see her notes for clues.
Born November 11, 1923, when family was living on the George VanSickle farm,
located on Six mile road, one mile east of Salem, Mi.Harvey was called Junior
by everyone, and I can remember him as he was the youngest and would always
play with me and other cousins when we visited Grandma and Grandpa Proctor.
He drowned in the Manchester mill pond the week before he was to graduate from
high school, May 16, 1943. He had been out in a boat with two other boys fool-
around in the water. No one knew why, but the boat turned over and Jr. coundn't
swim well enough in the very cold water and he never made it the 30 or 40 yards
to shore.
He is buried in the Proctor and Place family plot in Northview Cemetary,
Dearborn MI.This family line submitted by John E. Proctor (brn 1933) of Stillwell KS 4/96