Group 4 and 38 - Descendants of an unknown Zimmerman-222353
likely of Switzerland
who came to North America in various emigrations
Notes
6.
John Zimmerman Carpenter
Surname: Zimmerman / Carpenter
John and Drusilla (Tomlinson) Carpenter. This line and its history back to John, who
immigrated from Germany, is well documented in the book "A Carpenter
Genealogy" by Lyle Sharp and Frances Stoner, published in 1996, 724 pages.
BOOK:
"A Carpenter Genealogy" by Lyle Sharp and Frances Stoner, published in 1996, 724 pages. t.asp?titleno=760849
Title A Carpenter genealogy : a compilation of data on John Carpenter, ca. 1736-ca. 1796 and some of his descendants Stmnt.Resp. compiled by Lyle C. Sharp & Frances Stoner Authors Sharp, Lyle C. (Main Author) Stoner, Frances E (Added Author) Notes Includes Miller, Hayes, Morris, Hague, Hannahs, Leach, Stephens, Tomlinson, and related families. John Carpenter possibly came from Germany and is believed to have married Druscilla Tomlinson ca. 1761. She was the daughter of Joseph Tomlinson Sr. and Rebecca Swearingen. John probably died in West Virginia. His sons left West Virginia for Ohio ca. 1796. <---------- Ohio River Territory! Subjects Carpenter Miller Hayes Morris Hague Hannahs Leach Stephens Tomlinson Copies Call Number - Location - Status 929.273 C226s - FHL FAM HIST Book - Available Format Books/Monographs Language English Publication [United States] : L.C.Sharp & F.C. Stoner, c1996 Physical x, 724 p. Subject Class 929.273 C226 Film Notes Note - Location [Film] No film notes for this title.
http://trees.ancestryinstitution.com/tree/8195125/person/-959823235
John Zimmerman Carpenter
Sources:
1790 United States Federal Census
1800 United States Federal Census
Index of the Rolls of Honor (Ancestor's Index) in the Lineage Books of the National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution, Vol. I
Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s
Pennsylvania Naturalizations, 1740-73
The Official roster of the soldiers of the American Revolution buried in the state of Ohio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanover
Hanover or Hannover (German: Hannover, [haˈnoːfɐ]), on the river Leine, is the capital of the federal state of Lower Saxony (Niedersachsen), Germany and was once by personal union the family seat of the Hanoverian Kings of Great Britain, under their title as the dukes of Brunswick-Lüneburg (later described as the Elector of Hanover). At the end of the Napoleonic Wars, the Electorate was enlarged to become the capital of the Kingdom of Hanover.
In addition to being the capital of Lower Saxony, Hanover was the capital of the administrative area Regierungsbezirk Hannover (Hanover region) until Lower Saxony's administrative regions were disbanded at the beginning of 2005. Since 2001 it is part of the Hanover district (Region Hannover), which is a municipal body made up from the former district (Landkreis Hannover) and city of Hanover (note: although both Region and Landkreis are translated as district they are not the same).
GRAVE: not really - memorial only
John Zimmerman Carpenter
Birth: 1731 Hanover, Region Hannover, Lower Saxony (Niedersachsen), Germany
Death: 1796 (aged 64–65) Virginia, USA
Burial: Unknown
Memorial #: 140562580
Bio:
work in progess
It is believed that when John arrived from Germany his name was Zimmerman and he changed it to Carpenter. born date could also be 1734.
there was another memorial but something happened to it and a new one was created.
He married Drusilla Tomlinson in 1761 in Wills Creek, Frederick, MD, USA
John Zimmerman Carpenter Born Abt 1731 in Hanover,, Niedersachsen, Germany Died Abt 1796 in (NOW) ,, West Virginia, USA married Drusilla Tomlinson. This Gabriel Hermann Carpenter (Zimmerman) son John after reading the source Elizabeth Scherer was born 1735 - Died 1807 Resource pages 27,28. This can not be the same John furthermore as noted above John Zimmerman Carpenter was born in Germany 1731 and according to the source Gabriel Hermann Carpenter (Zimmerman) came to the USA at the age of 2.
Children of Drusilla Tomlinson and John Carpenter are:
Thomas Carpenter.
John Carpenter, b. 1762, MD, USA.
+Robert Carpenter, b. 1763, Belmont, WV. USA, d. Feb 1850, Seneca, Monroe, OH, USA.
Anna Carpenter, b. 1766, VA, USA.
Daniel Carpenter, b. 1769, VA, USA.
Joesph Carpenter, b. 20 Feb 1771, VA, USA.
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~harringtonfamilies/Carpenter1.htm
and more here;
http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=2208&p=surnames.carpenter
Family Members
Spouse
Drusilla Tomlinson Carpenter 1739-1774
Children
Robert Carpenter 1763-1850
Joseph Carpenter 1771-1849
Created by: ma carpenter (47915041)
Added: 28 Dec 2014
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/140562580/john-carpenter
Citation: Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 15 April 2020), memorial page for John Zimmerman Carpenter (1731–1796), Find a Grave Memorial no. 140562580, ; Maintained by ma carpenter (contributor 47915041) Unknown.
Drusilla Tomlinson
GRAVE: not really - memorial only
Drusilla Tomlinson Carpenter
Birth: 1739 Frederick County, Maryland, USA
Death: 1774 (aged 34–35) Virginia, USA
Burial: Cremated, Other
Memorial #: 104766515
Bio:
She married John Carpenter in 1761 in Wills Creek, Frederick, MD, USA
Children of Drusilla Tomlinson and John Carpenter are:
Thomas Carpenter.
John Carpenter, b. 1762, MD, USA.
+Robert Carpenter, b. 1763, Belmont, WV. USA, d. Feb 1850, Seneca, Monroe, OH, USA.
Anna Carpenter, b. 1766, VA, USA.
Daniel Carpenter, b. 1769, VA, USA.
Joesph Carpenter, b. 20 Feb 1771, VA, USA.
Family Members
Parents
Joseph Tomlinson 1712-1797
Rebecca Drusilla Swearingen Tomlinson 1716-1797
Spouse
John Zimmerman Carpenter 1731-1796
Siblings
Benjamin Tomlinson 1752-1838
Jesse Tomlinson 1753-1840
Children
Robert Carpenter 1763-1850
Joseph Carpenter 1771-1849
Created by: ma carpenter (47915041)
Added: 7 Feb 2013
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/104766515/drusilla-carpenter
Citation: Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 15 April 2020), memorial page for Drusilla Tomlinson Carpenter (1739–1774), Find a Grave Memorial no. 104766515, ; Maintained by ma carpenter (contributor 47915041) Cremated, Other.
11.
John Carpenter
CENSUS: 1800 US Census
Name: John Carpenter
Home in 1800 (City, County, State): Newtown, Washington, Territory Northwest of the River Ohio
Source Citation
Year: 1800; Census Place: Newtown, Washington, Territory Northwest of the River Ohio; Series: M1804; Roll: 1
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1800 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
NOTE:
On image it shows Joseph Carpenter and the following in a cluster.
Thomas Carpenter
Roert Musgrove
John Carpenter <-----
John Radcliff?
James Piatt?
In another columun is another Joseph Carpenter by himself.
All near the lower right corner.
7.
Thomas Carpenter
ANCESTRY:
http://person.ancestry.com/tree/7237085/person/-1111648238/facts
Ancestry Sources
1820 United States Federal Census <-------- not supported by the age of Head of House, likely the son.
Parents
Unknown Father
Unknown Mother
Spouse & Children
Elizabeth Rainey 1757–
Jacob J. Carpenter 1782–1875
Thomas 2 Carpenter 1786–1850
Mary 2 Carpenter 1794–1870
William Carpenter 1795–1840
------------
BIRTH:
Listed as being born about 1756 LA - but his oldes son was born in the range of 1794 to 1804 per the 1820 US Census. IF WE SAY, this Thomas was 30 when his eldest son was born then this would make him born about 1764ish.
CENSUS: 1792 Mississippi -- ?
Mississippi, State and Territorial Census Collection, 1792-1866 - nothing close.
The only one found is ...
Name: La Vinda Carpenter <---- Look like La Vuida (La Vueda?) Carpenter to me on image. *
Census Date: 1792
County: Natchez
Locality: Santa Catalina
LINE: 22
Roll: v229_1
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Mississippi, State and Territorial Census Collection, 1792-1866 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007.
Original data: Mississippi State and Territorial Censuses, 1792-1866. Microfilm V229. 3 rolls. Heritage Quest.
NOTE: Census done in Spanish!
Blancos - Varones (men) - edades (ages) - 1, 2, 3 = 1, 3, _ <--- actual listing
Blancos - Hembras (females) - Edtades (ages) - 1, 2, 3 = 1, 3, _ <--- actual listing
* - I have no idea what this means. La Vuida or similar is used twice where the first name would be on this page.
CENSUS: 1810 US Census - Nothing close found in Louisiana.
Comment: The New Orleans Le Carpentier 1810 group may be tottaly separate - from this Thomas. And based on this, the entry into LA may be later than thought for this line. More details needed.
CENSUS: 1810 Mississippi - only Carpenter or similar found ...
Name: Joseph Carpenter
Census Date: 1810
County: Baldwin
LINE: 25
Roll: v229_1
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Mississippi, State and Territorial Census Collection, 1792-1866 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007.
Original data: Mississippi State and Territorial Censuses, 1792-1866. Microfilm V229. 3 rolls. Heritage Quest.
CENSUS: 1815-1817 Mississippi - no Carpenters or similar - closest match found ...
Name: Felix Zimmerman
Census Date: 1815-1817
County: Monroe
LINE: 34
Roll: v229_2
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Mississippi, State and Territorial Census Collection, 1792-1866 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007.
Original data: Mississippi State and Territorial Censuses, 1792-1866. Microfilm V229. 3 rolls. Heritage Quest.
Note: Starting in 1818 in Lawrence, 7 are found.
John Carpenter
Owen Carpenter
Samuel Carpenter
Sol Carpenter
Temple Carpenter
William Carpenter
William Carpenter
CENSUS: 1820 US Census This is likely the son because of the age shown.
Name: Thomas Carpenter
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1820
Event Place: East Baton Rouge, Louisiana, United States
Note:
Page: 21
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: M33
Affiliate Film Number: 32
GS Film Number: 0181358
Digital Folder Number: 005156914
Image Number: 00033
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1820", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHLF-9SS : 16 July 2015), Thomas Carpenter, 1820.
Note:
Males 1, _, _, 1,
Free White Males under 10
Males 10-16
Males 16-18
Males 16-26 <----------- oldest male born about 1794 to 1804 - This is likely Thomas the son.
Males 26-45
Males 45 and over
Comment:
There is a Mary Carpenter and a Thomas Carpenter 4 lines separate on image.See son Thomas notes.
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BOOK:
EARLY SETTLERS OF EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH LOUISIANA
BY NOEL WOLSEFER GEISSMANN 2008
Noel Geissmann
190 Middle Pearl Drive
Slidell, La. 70461
985 639 8276
noelueli@bellsouth.net mailto:noelueli@bellsouth.net>
CHAPTER THREE
...
THOMAS CARPENTER B. CA 1770, AND WIFE, ELIZABETH RAINEY
A second son of Jacob Sr is Thomas Carpenter that married Elizabeth Rainey. I think he came to Louisiana before his father. He was here by 1802. He is listed on the ledger of Cochran and Rae. In1805 he is a witness in a document concerning the shooting of a cow. He lived a few miles northeast of his father on the Comite River. Land ####. He sold that land ????
This involves the land on Big and Little Sandy Creeks, William Cain, Jacob Carpenter and David Jackson all lived on adjacent land. I think this Thomas Carpenter is the son of Old Jacob and is on the 1820 census. I am a Jackson, Cain and Carpenter
Parish Judges Books I page 34 Sale January 12, 1821
East Baton Rouge Parish, Louisiana
Thomas Carpenter to David, Jackson, vendee No. 36
State of Louisiana Parish of East Baton Rouge
Know all men by these presents that I Thomas Carpenter of the said Parish for the consideration of the sum of fifty dollars to me in hand paid by David Jackson of the aforesaid Parish, I do hereby bargin sell and deliver a certain improvement situated on little Sandy Creek about a half a mile from the conjunction. The said improvement I warrant and defend to the said David Jackson, against all my heirs or executors. I hereunto set my hand and seal, this 26th November 1820 (signed)
Thomas Carpinter (L.S.) Test. Wm Cain = Jacob
Carpinter = The foregoing bill of sale was duly
acknowledged before me the undersigned Judge
of the Parish of East Baton Rouge this fifteen
of January eighteen hundred & twenty one =
Ch Tessier P. J.
Recorded this 12 January 1821
Ch Tessier
P J
Transcribed Jan 2008
Noel Geissmann
... (more)
BOOK:
EARLY SETTLERS OF EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH LOUISIANA
BY NOEL WOLSEFER GEISSMANN 2008
Noel Geissmann
190 Middle Pearl Drive
Slidell, La. 70461
985 639 8276
noelueli@bellsouth.net >
CHAPTER THREE
(continued)
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Thomas Carpenter Sr. with the 1802 blotter and Spanish 1806 land document for 500 arpents. The Land Claims map shows Thomas Carpenter on the east side of Comite River at the northern end of Blackwater Road near the Zachary area. This may be that land or not for the 500 arpents. His wife was Elizabeth Rainey.
His daughter, Mary Carpenter b. 1794 is also my line. And documented. Her marriage record lists her parents as Thomas Carpenter and Elizabeth Rainey. (There was a William Rainey in The Ms Terr. With Jacob C and Wm Cain. In 1805.
Mary Browning and her son, Isaac Browning2Jr. lived in 1804-1807 on the east bank of the Amite River near what is now Watson, La. Joseph Clayton obtained the land after her. See documents.
If you look at a map of the area, if you cross the Amite River you are very near William Cain’s property and just across Sandy Creek to the northwest is the land of Jacob Carpenter, who was Mary Carpenter’s grandfather. You can see how Isaac Browning2Jr. and Mary Carpenter met.
I had wondered why Isaac Browning and Mary 1794 buy land from Lewis Hubbs Carpenter and move right in the middle of this other Carpenter family? It is because Lewis Hubbs Carpenter was her first cousin, son of Jacob Jr. and also a grandson of Jacob Sr.
May 21, 1837
Judges Books P p.374 shows where her Mary F. Carpenter sold 300 acres to each Sarah Carpenter Cook and Lewis H Carpenter.
Then seven month later, LH sells 150 acres to Isaac Browning, Jr. Isaac is married to yet another Mary Carpenter b. 1794, daughter of Thomas Carpenter and Elizabeth Rainey.
DEC 18 1837
VENDEE VENDOR
Browning, Isaac T L H Carpenter S & M j p 445 Dec 18 1837
Recorded this 11th Dec 1837
Ch Tessier P J
Before me Charles Tessier Parish Judge & Notary Public in and for the Parish of East Baton Rouge State of Louisiana, personally came & appeared L. H. Carpenter of this Parish who declares that he has granted bargained & sold & by these presence does grant, bargain &_sell convey unto Isaac T. Browning of the same Parish, a certain tract or parcel of land of his property situated on Sandy Creek Spring at about 21 miles east of Baton Rouge, measuring one hundred and fifty superficial acres, bounded west by Joer, East by the road leaving from Baton Rouge to Liberty, North by land of Sarah Cook & South by the seller, which piece of land is part of a larger tract he bought of Mary Carpenter by act on Record in this office.
To have and to hold unto the said Isaac T Browning his heirs and assigns the above described tract of land for ever, with general warranty.
The present conveyance is made for and in consideration of the sum of six hundred dollars of which two hundred dollars were paid in hand the receipt whereof is hereby acknowledged and the balance of four hundred dollars is to be paid by the purchaser in two equal payments of two hundred dollars the first payable in the month of January 1839 the last in the month of January 1840, for which amount the said Browning subscribed his two Notes which he delivered to the seller who acknowledged the same, which Notes I have signed Ne varietur to identify the same it being understood that the land sold by these presence shall remain mortgaged to receive the payment of said sum as aforesaid.
And the said I. T. Browning being here present accepts this sale made in his favor under the conditions therein set forth & waives the protection of a certificate from the Recorder of mortgage.
In witness whereof the parties have hereto set their names with me & in the presence of ?? Jackson & James Johnston witness at Baton Rouge this eighteenth of December eighteen hundred & thirty seven.
J Jackson L. H. Carpenter
James Johnston I. T. Browning
Ch Tessier
P J
Sarah sell all 300 acres on 2/29/1840.
EBR, La. Notorial Books M p. 177 2/29/1840
Shows the Sarah Cook sell to Ozem Woodruff, Sr., vendee and that Mary F. Carpenter is her mother. Have document Sells 300 acres Big Sandy Creek Spring.
SARAH CARPENTER COOK
1850 census
Sarah Cook age
Sarah daughter age 25
William son age 28
living next door to her brother, Lewis Hubbs Carpenter
also a neighbor is Wm Campbell, born North Carolina, Pullen, Brown, Spence
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1860 United States Federal Census
about Sarah Cook
Name: Sarah Cook
Age in 1860: 55
Birth Year: abt 1805
Birthplace: Alabama
Home in 1860: East Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Gender: Female
Post Office: Baton Rouge
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members: Name Age
Isaiah Tucker 44
Melissa Tucker 25
Edmund D Tucker 9
Wm T Tucker 7
Isaiah Tucker 5
Anna M Tucker 3
Jas M Tucker 11.12
Anna Holmes 61
Wm M Westbrook 13
Caroline M Westbrook 11
Jas M Tucker 40
Sarah Cook 55
Mary F Pullum 16
also a neighbor is Wm Campbell, born North Carolina, Pullen so still in the same place
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I think William Cook and his mother moved to Lamar Tx after the War Between the States.
U.S. Federal Census Mortality Schedules, 1850-1880
about Sarah Cook
Name: Sarah Cook
Gender: Female
Race: White
Marital Status: Widowed
Place of Birth: Alabama
Estimated birth year: abt 1805
Age: 65
Month of Death: Mar
Cause of Death: Pneumonia
Place of Death: (City, County, State)
Precinct 1, Grayson, Texas
Census Year: 1870
Note: after the civil war
If Sarah is born in 1805 in Ms Terr., then her mother, Mary F. Hubbs, had to be at least 15 and therefore b. ca 1790. Lewis H. was born in La. in 1812. Remember they settled Sandy Creek with Jacob, Sr. in 1811.
E-MAIL: -----Original Message-----
From: Noel Geissmann
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 11:44 AM
To: John R Carpenter
Subject: Noel last one
From the attachment ...
DOCUMENTS FOR THOMAS CARPENTER SR AND ELIZABETH RAINEY
1805
The first document that I have is 1805 April 12 for a Deposition of Thomas Carpenter regarding a cow that was butchered for meat by Thomas Brannon. Richard Devall was also deposed. Mr. Raney was mentioned as accompanying Thomas Carpenter on that day. Thomas Brannon had to pay James McGowen for time and expenses. The document says that this incident happened in February last which would be February 1805. This is the first date I have found for Thomas Carpenter in Louisiana. Spanish West Florida Records Vol X p. 71 04/12/1805.
**Note check, I think 1803 he was listed on Henderson account book or Cochran and Ray Book. If so this is the earliest.
If he is the son of Jacob, he settled in Louisiana before Jacob. In 1805 Jacob is still in the Mississippi Territory with William Cain and William Rainey. However, note that the Mr. Raney above was here in 1805. I think this is Joseph Rainey, who was a witness: Joseph Raney age 29 in 1805 b. 1776 for the marriage of Benjamin Browning to Patience Heaton in Baton Rouge. Isaac Browning Sr and Jr. were also in Louisiana by 1805.
1806
The second document is written in Spanish in 1806 August 28 to Senor Governador. It is for Thomas Carpenter’s acquisition of 500 arpents of land. 1 arpent = .846.28 acres. This would be for 423.14 acres. This is the land on the Comite River.
1809
1809 September 17
Marriage of their daughter, Mary Carpenter to Isaac Browning (Downey). It lists Thomas Carpenter and Elizabeth Rainey as her parents. Sept 17, 1809 EBR, La. BR St Joseph Records Catholic Diocese, even though they were not Catholic, living under Spanish control. His parents were Benjamin and Mary Taylor. Witnessed by Abiel Draughan and William Taylor (SJO-3,91).
Note: Isaac Browning was living on the Amite River near Chambers Cemetery and Watson today. If you cross the river to the northeast, you are very near the Sandy Creek Carpenters. I think Thomas sold his land on the Comite and moved closer to Sandy Creek.
1810 Census Not listed but not unusual.
1813
This is Thomas Carpenter that settled La on the Comite River ca 1813. This is located at the end of Blackwater Road near Zachary, La.
See land claims.Township Map T44SR2E # 48 for 196.25 acres and #53 for 443.45 acres (Total 640 acres) both on Cert 344 Thomas Carpenter. I do not know if this is part of the same land of 1806 on 500 arpents. The 1813 date is just a date to show when it was registered not settled.
Children of Thomas Carpenter Sr and Elizabeth Rainey:
Mary Carpenter b. 1794
Thomas Carpenter, Jr. b. ca 1795 m. Patience Waltman
William Carpenter b. ca 1790-1799 m. Mary Christmas, widow Browning
We have Thomas Carpenter in 1806 with 500 arpents of land. Also Thomas Carpenter in 1813 settled on the Comite River with 640 acres.
1820 Census EBR La over 45+ yrs old on Thompson Creek. wife 26-45. Elizabeth Rainey could be b. 1775 and be in this category. They fit the ages. Who are the children? Daughter Mary, married in 1809 and is listed with her husband, Isaac Browning, Jr.
1830 Census EBR, La.
Male 50-60 This would be Thomas Carpenter Sr.
Male 20-30 Could be William who married widow, Mary Christmas Browning and her children 2M 2F
Male 10-15
Male 5-10
Male under 5
Female 40-50 Could be Elizabeth Rainey? She would have been 15 when Mary was born.
Female 15-20
Female 10-15
Female 5-10
Their daughter, Mary Carpenter, is married and living two houses away. Husband is Isaac Browning (Brownin on this census) she was born 1794 and Isaac b. 1784. *See 1812 affidavit. This is definitely Mary and Isaac and Thomas Carpenter, her father. See their marriage license 1809 St. Joseph's records listing their parents. Thomas Carpenter and Elizabeth Rainey.
18.
Jacob J. Carpenter
BIRTH:
Given as abt 1782. Better guess abt 1795ish.
19.
Mary Carpenter
IMAGE:
RIN 189056 Mary Carpenter - Marriage letter.jpg
This image is regarding the Marriage of Mary Carpenter b. 1794 m. Isaac Browning in Spanish, listing Thomas Carpenter and Elizabeth Rainey as Mary's parents.
This per Noel Geissmann (noelueli@bellsouth.net)
PENSION:
See image: RIN 189056 Mary Carpenter 1812.jpg
This image is from Sept 1809 which matches Mary Carpenter and Isaac Brown(ing) marriage in Pension app 1812. This per Noel Geissmann (noelueli@bellsouth.net)
E-MAIL: -----Original Message-----
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To: John R Carpenter
Subject: Noel last one
From the attachment ...
Mary Carpenter and Isaac Browning Census Records
1830 census EBR list Isaac Brownin with family wife age would be 36 b. 1794 which matches the 1812 affidavit.
1850 Census lists Mary Browning's b. 1794 birthplace as Louisiana. Have document. 56. It is important to note that Mary is widowed and living next door to her sister in law, Patience Waltman Carpenter, mother of Phillip Carpenter. This is Murray’s line. You will see that Mary Carpenter Browning was the daughter of Thomas Sr. and Patience was married to Thomas Jr. who was also the child of Thomas Sr.
1860 age 66 living with son Isaac Browning state b. Ga
1870 Census lists Mary Browning's birthplace as Louisiana. Have document. Port Hudson age 76
1900 Census Records for East Baton Rouge Parish, Louisiana lists Isaac Thomas
Browning, son of Isaac T. Browning and Mary Carpenter Browning, and shows
the birthplace of Mary Carpenter as Alabama. But remember the Mississippi Territory was owned by Ga, Al, Fl, Ms, Spanish. So the different states fit.
Thomas Carpenter Jr., son of Thomas Sr. and Elizabeth Rainey, married Patience Waltman ca. 1820 so he would be out of the house.
Also remember that William Carpenter married Mary Christmas Browning, widow of John R. Browning ca. 1828 with several children.
The younger children in Thomas Sr.'s household could be grandchildren or step grandchildren.
It is unbelievable that so may Carpenter men married a woman named Mary and how many named their daughters Mary.
This complicates understanding many of the documents but you can get past it. You must attach a birth date to the Marys. You must also check the census records very carefully.
Isaac Taylor Browning
ANCESTRY:
http://person.ancestry.com/tree/7237085/person/-1025341112/facts
Ancestry Sources
1830 United States Federal Census
U.S., War of 1812 Service Records, 1812-1815
Parents
Unknown Father
Unknown Mother
Spouse & Children
Mary 2 Carpenter 1794–1870
John R. Browning 1814–
Charlotte Browning 1818–
Thomas Browning 1822–1869
Zedoch Marion Browning 1822–
Albert C. Browning 1824–1884
Isaac Taylor Browning 1832–1903
20.
William Carpenter
Need children - see spouses's notes
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From: Noel geissmann mailto:noelueli@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 9:23 AM
To: John R Carpenter mailto:jrcrin001@cox.net>
Subject: William R Carpenter
William R Carpenter was the s/o of Thomas Carpenter m. Eliz Rainey
Initial R comes from 1840 census EBR La.
He could be named for his grandfather William Rainey who was in 1805 with Jacob Carpenter and William Cain in Ms. Terr.
1810 and 1820, William Carpenter is listed in Red Wood Creek in Feliciana Parish. The 1820 census shows: 1M (16-26 3M (<10) 1F (16-26) 1F (10-16).
1830 EBR La census
with wife Mary Christmas Browning (widow of John R Browning) and Browning children (Isaac T, Rebecca Elizabeth, William James, John Wesley,
other four children girls are William Carpenters.
0022101 311001
2 males 10-15 , William Browning b. 1816 age 14, John Wesley Browning b. 1820 age 10
1 males 15 to 20 Isaac T Browning b 1812 age 18
1 male 30 to 40 (William Carpenter) b ca 1795
3 females under 5 Sarah Francis Carpenter b. 1830 age newborn, two unknown
1 female 5 to 10 Louisa Carpenter b. 1824 age 6
1 female 10 to 15 Rebecca Browning b. 1815 age 15
1 female 30 to 40 (Mary Christmas Browning Carpenter) b. ca 1793
1840 EBR La. William R Carpenter
0100201 0220001 This matches above.
He is not listed on the 1850 census
RefL Anne Eiland
I oabtained a great deal of documented information from my Devall relatives when I began my research on my father's family. It was in that material that I found that William C. Devall, Jr. married (1) Louise Carpenter, bn.ca 1822. They had three children: Willaim ca 1852; Louise ca 1854/1855, and Henerietta (ca 1848) {*This Henerietta was to be my great-grandfather Alfred Dalton Carpenter's first wife}.
When Louise died ca. 1854/55, William married 2) her sister Sarah (Safford) Carpenter, whose husband had died leaving her with one child, Richard Stafford. Sarah and William were raising his three children, her son, and their son, when he died.
Sarah then married William's brother, Richard, who had lost his first wife Sara Allen ( one of their daughters, Elizabeth Jane, was to be my great-grandfather Alfred Dalton Carpenter's second wife & my great-frandmother). In the end, Sara Carpenter and Richard Thomas ended up raising the children from all these marriages.
Although the Devall research stated that Louise and Sara Carpenter were the daughters of : William C. Carpenter and Martia (Mary) Christmas, there was nothing more on William and Mary Christmas in the notes. If the Devalls who did all the research had information on them, it wasn't in the material they sent to me. I have always thought there must be a connection of William to Thomas Carpenters but had not found any documentation to support that. I know that in 1810 and 1820, William Carpenter is listed in Red Wood Creek in Feliciana Parish. The 1820 census shows: 1M (16-26 3M (<10) 1F (16-26) 1F (10-16). That would mean the 1820 William would have been born between 1794 and 1804. However, In order to have those children I would lean toward the 1794 date, which would put him in the same age range as Mary Carpenter, Thomas, and Jacob. How does all this tie in with what you know about Mary Carpenter Browning?
There are a number of mentions of William Carpenter in the West Florida Spanish records. I'll look through those. Remember the article I wrote you about telling of Louis's Grandfather (great-grandfather?) Do you think that there might be any information in the Baton Rouge papers regarding that plantation of his that was known in 1859 as "Hope Estate? If he was a merchant, maybe we can tract some records in the Spanish Records of that period. DEATH: This is not this William Carpenter!! as 1840 census lists the above William Carpenter with children and wife
See Civil 3rd Judicial Districk Court
No. 3245 EBR La. Celeste Allain, papers transferred to probate court
William Carpenter is the defendant in Celete calling in a promissory note.
Tuesday, 7th June 1842, William Carpenter was deceased.
Need to check his probate for wife and children.
Martha E. Christmas
ANCESTRY:
http://person.ancestry.com/tree/7237085/person/-659455548/facts
Ancestry Sources
1830 United States Federal Census
1850 United States Federal Census
Louisiana Marriages to 1850
U.S. Federal Census Mortality Schedules, 1850-1885
U.S., Federal Census Mortality Schedules Index, 1850-1880
Parents
Thomas Christmas 1763–1818
Rebecca M. Collier 1767–1815
Spouse & Children
John R. Browning 1786–1819
Isaac T. Browning 1812–
Rebecca Elizabeth Browning 1815–
William James Browning 1816–
John Wesley Browning 1820–
Spouse & Children
William Carpenter 1795–1840
Louisa Carpenter 1822–1859
Mary Ann Carpenter 1825–
Sarah Frances Carpenter 1830–1896
Henry C. Carpenter 1835–
Spouse
James Jr. Kirby 1791–1880
8.
Jabob Carpenter Jr.
BOOK:
EARLY SETTLERS OF EAST BATON ROUGE PARISH LOUISIANA
BY NOEL WOLSEFER GEISSMANN 2008
Noel Geissmann
190 Middle Pearl Drive
Slidell, La. 70461
985 639 8276
noelueli@bellsouth.net >
CHAPTER THREE
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JACOB CARPENTER, JR.b ca 1785 (Tensaw Child) (Jacob)
AND WIFE MARY F HUBBS b ca 1789
1811 Settled in the fork Big Sandy Creek and Little Sandy Creek area of East Baton Rouge, La. early 1811. This is near the Liberty Road.
*DocumentOwned land next to William Cain and David Jackson. See Township maps T5S R2E
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1830 EBR census age 30 - 40
also living with Jacob is probably his father, 60-70 age
A Jacob Carpenter - Signed as family or friend for David Jackson's children for tutorship. Undertutor was Isaac Browning married to Mary Carpenter, who was the daughter of Thomas Carpenter and Elizabeth Rainey. My line
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1831 Jan 14
Jacob and Mary Carpenter (Jacob and Mary F Hubbs Carpenter I think) where taken to court owing $143.46 which they signed a note to pay.
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FAMILY AND FRIEND MEETING FOR DAVID JACKSON'S CHILDREN (JACOB WAS A NEIGHBOR)
1834 July 24
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State of Louisiana
Parish of East Baton Rouge
On this twenty fourth of July, eighteen hundred & thirty four were regularly convened before the undersigned Parish Judge & ex officio Judge of the Court of Probates for this Parish Messrs, Jacob Carpenter, Thomas Jackson, Joseph Pullian, Rowling Thomas & John Vining?, being the nearest relatives & friends of the minor children of the late David Jackson of this Parish deceased via: Thomas, William, John, Jewett, Polly, Hannah & Elizabeth Jackson, at the request of John Kerr for the purpose of approving the appointment of said Kerr as tutor to said minor children, and the security to be offered for the faithful administration of said trust. When, the said Judge administered to the members of said meeting the oath provided for by Law:
They took up the subject and discussed the interest of said minors
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then the members of the meeting were of opinion that the appointment of said Kerr was proper & con? , & that William Carpenter offered by said Kerr as his security is good & sufficient to receive/secure? a faithful administration for the trust & protect the interest of the minors & of the creditors. And Isaac Browning the under tutor of the minor children of the late David Jackson present at the meeting offered no objection to the foregoing deliberations.
Whereupon the meeting was closed. Jacob Carpenter Thomas Jackson & Isaac Browning not knowing to write made their mark
His his
Isaac X Browning Jacob X Carpenter
Mark mark
His
Thomas "T" Jackson
Mark
Ch. Tessier Joseph Pullian
P J Rawland Thomas
John Vining
*Note "T" is the mark for Thomas Jackson here
Transcribed by Noel Geissmann
August 2000
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9.
Johan Tobias "Tobias" Zimmerman
E-MAIL:
From: Dave ... mailto:DaveZimm@live.ca>
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Subject: Re: Here is what I have for lineage - Group 4
John, Karen and Noel,
I have been able to find the location in Germany as Furfeld. You can note that Catherine's birth location seems different but everything seems the same between two of the documents.
Also note it lists Tobias' parents (I am assuming all this as I cannot read German) on the marriage document.
I am also not sure if that is the correct Tobias arriving on the Beejapore as you can see from the passenger list that it does not have Catherine listed but has several others instead. Maybe I am mistaken???
Dave.
CHR: (Baptisim)
Name: Johann Tobias Zimmermann
Event Type: Taufe (Baptism)
Birth Date: 7 Okt 1808 (7 Oct 1808)
Baptism Date: 7 Okt 1808 (7 Oct 1808)
Baptism Place: Frankenbach u. Fürfeld, Württemberg (Baden-Württemberg), Deutschland (Germany)
Father: Johann Jakob Zimmermann
Mother: Katharina Friderika Bringle
Custodian: Evangelische Kirche Frankenbach (OA. Heilbronn)
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Württemberg, Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1500-1985 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
Original data: Lutherische Kirchenbücher, 1500-1985. Various sources.
MARRIAGE: 1852
Name: Johann Tobias Zimmermann
Birth Date: 08 Oct 1808 <----- I do not see this on your image
Birthplace: <----- resident of Furfeld (Fuerfeld)
Age:
Spouse's Name: Catharina Elisabeth Feile
Spouse's Birth Date: 05 Jul 1819 <------------- I do not see this on your image
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 22 Feb 1852 <------------- I do not see this on your image
Event Place: Evangelisch, Stetten Am Heuchelberg, Neckarkreis, Wuerttemberg
Father's Name: Johann Jacob Zimmermann <-------- from Snofare?
Mother's Name: Catharina Friedrike Braeuchle
Spouse's Father's Name: Jonas Feile
Spouse's Mother's Name: Margaretha Bruekmann
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M91742-1
System Origin: Germany-VR
GS Film number: 1184750
Reference ID: 2:1RPDSJV
Citing this Record:
"Deutschland Heiraten, 1558-1929," database, FamilySearch ( : 26 December 2014), Johann Tobias Zimmermann and Catharina Elisabeth Feile, 22 Feb 1852; citing Evangelisch, Stetten Am Heuchelberg, Neckarkreis, Wuerttemberg; FHL microfilm 1,184,750.
NOTE:
The image has 15 July 1851 as the recorded/registered by Johane Cristine Briuhard.
SEE ALSO:
Name: Johann Tobias Zimmermann
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Catharina Elisabeth Feile
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 22 Feb 1852
Event Place: Evangelisch, Stetten Am Heuchelberg, Neckarkreis, Wuerttemberg
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M91742-1
System Origin: Germany-ODM
GS Film number: 1184750
Reference ID:
Citing this Record:
"Deutschland Heiraten, 1558-1929," database, FamilySearch ( : 26 December 2014), Johann Tobias Zimmermann and Catharina Elisabeth Feile, 22 Feb 1852; citing Evangelisch, Stetten Am Heuchelberg, Neckarkreis, Wuerttemberg; FHL microfilm 1,184,750.
REGISTER: Probably not the same family ...
Maybe the same person? - maybe 1869? Compare wife - Children born 1835 to 1839.
Tobias Zimmermann
Relation to Head:
Haushaltsvorstand (Head)
Birth Date:
abt 1805
Birth Place:
Lambsheim
Residence Date:
1840
Residence Place:
Mannheim, Baden
Household Members:
Name
Tobias Zimmermann
Catharina Zimmermann
Margaretha Zimmermann
Georg Zimmermann
Ludwig Zimmermann
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Mannheim, Germany, Family Registers, 1760-1900 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
Original data: Polizeipräsidium Mannheim Familienbögen, 1800-1900. Digital images. Stadtarchiv Mannheim — Institut für Stadtgeschichte, Mannheim, Germany.
IMMIGRATION: - Apparently not the right family! - See note below.
Name: Tobius Zimmermann ( Tobies Zimmerman )
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: 01 May 1852
Event Place: New York, New York, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 43
Birthplace: Germany
Occupation: Tailor
Ship Name: Beejapore (Beyspon)
Birth Year (Estimated): 1809 ( abt 1810 )
Departure Port: Liverpool
Literacy: Unknown
Last Place of Residence:
Destination Place: Usa
Transit or Travel Compartment: Staying in the USA [Transit]; Steerage [Travel]
Affiliate Manifest ID: 00006890
Affiliate Publication Title: Germans to America Passenger Data file, 1850-1897
Affiliate ARC Identifier: 1746067
Citing this Record:
"United States Germans to America Index, 1850-1897," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KDWT-KWT : accessed 01 Feb 2014), Tobius Zimmermann, 1852.
NOTE:
When viewing this on Ancestry.com, the passenger list is available. It lists ...
Tobias Zimmermann 42 M
Elizabeth 32 F
Christian 13 F
Jacob 9 M
Christisen 7 F
Frederick 5 M
Philip infant
CENSUS: 1861 Canada Census
Name: Tobias Zimmerman
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1861
Event Place: Woolwich, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
Enumeration District: 02
Gender: Male
Age: 53
Marital Status: Married
Religion: Lutheran
Birthplace: Germany
Birth Year (Estimated): 1808
Sheet Number: 17
Line Number: 1
Affiliate Film Number: C-1079
Citing this Record:
"Ontario Census, 1861," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MQW6-WNH : accessed 01 Feb 2014), Tobias Zimmerman, 1861.
CENSUS: 1871 Canada Census
Name: Tobias Zimmerman
Gender: Male
Age: 62
Birth Year (Estimated): 1809
Birthplace: Germany
Marital Status: Married
Nationality:
Religion: Luthern
Event Place: 04, Woolwich b, North Waterloo 32, Ontario
Page Number: 1
Line Number: 7
House Number:
Family Number:
GS Film number: 4396336
Affiliate Film Number: C-9944
Digital Folder Number: 4396336
Image Number: 00420
Citing this Record:
"Canada Census, 1871," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M4Q4-P7J : accessed 01 Feb 2014), Tobias Zimmerman, Woolwich, North Waterloo, Ontario, Canada.
CENSUS: 1871 Canada Census Mortality Schedule
Name: Tobias Zimmerman
Gender: Male
Age (Expanded): 62 years
Birth Year (Estimated): 1808
Birthplace: Germany
Marital Status: Married
Event Date: Sep 1870
Religion: Lutheran
Event Place: 04, Woolwich b, North Waterloo 32, Ontario, Canada
Page Number: 1
Line Number: 7
GS Film number: 4396336
Affiliate Film Number: C-9944
Digital Folder Number: 004396336
Image Number: 00420
Citing this Record:
"Canada Census Mortality Schedules, 1871," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XMMT-L3Z : accessed 01 Feb 2014), Tobias Zimmerman, 1870.
GRAVE: image
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=111066850
Tobias Zimmermann
Birth: Oct. 7, 1808, Germany
Death: Sep. 23, 1870
Waterloo Regional Municipality
Ontario, Canada
Family links:
Spouse:
Catharina Zimmermann (1819 - 1874)
Burial:
Saint Peter's Lutheran Cemetery
Heidelberg
Waterloo Regional Municipality
Ontario, Canada
Created by: Dale White
Record added: May 23, 2013
Find A Grave Memorial# 111066850
Catharina Elisabeth Feile
ANCESTRY:
http://trees.ancestryinstitution.com/tree/2158185/person/-1857862070
Catharina Unknown Zimmerman
Birth 5 JUL 1819 in Germany
Death 8 JAN 1874 in Waterloo Co., Ontario, Can.
SEE ALSO:
http://trees.ancestryinstitution.com/tree/14575896/person/127929764
Catherine Felle
Birth 16 JUN 1819 in Germany
Death 08 JAN 1874 in Heidelberg, Ontario
REGISTER: Maybe the same person? Likely not.
Name:
Catharina Zimmermann [Catharina Dahringer]
Relation to Head:
Frau (Wife)
Birth Date:
abt 1805
Birth Place:
Stupheim
Residence Date:
1840
Residence Place:
Mannheim, Baden
Household Members:
Name
Tobias Zimmermann
Catharina Zimmermann
Margaretha Zimmermann
Georg Zimmermann
Ludwig Zimmermann
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Mannheim, Germany, Family Registers, 1760-1900 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
Original data: Polizeipräsidium Mannheim Familienbögen, 1800-1900. Digital images. Stadtarchiv Mannheim — Institut für Stadtgeschichte, Mannheim, Germany.
GRAVE: image
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=111064935
Catharina Zimmermann
Birth: Jul. 5, 1819, Germany
Death: Jan. 8, 1874
Waterloo Regional Municipality
Ontario, Canada
Family links:
Spouse:
Tobias Zimmermann (1808 - 1870)*
*Calculated relationship
Burial:
Saint Peter's Lutheran Cemetery
Heidelberg
Waterloo Regional Municipality
Ontario, Canada
Created by: Dale White
Record added: May 23, 2013
Find A Grave Memorial# 111064935
22.
Elizabeth Zimmerman
MARRIAGE: 1877
Name: John Vollmer
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 09 Dec 1877
Event Place: Heidelberg, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
Age: 23
Birth Year (Estimated): 1854
Father's Name: Peter Vollmer
Mother's Name: Catharina Vollmer
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Zimmerman
Spouse's Age: 23
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1854
Spouse's Father's Name: Tobias Zimmerman
Spouse's Mother's Name: Catharine Zimmerman
Page: 011054
GS Film Number: 1863650
Digital Folder Number: 004529120
Image Number: 01142
Citing this Record:
"Ontario Marriages, 1869-1927," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FMNL-QY9 : accessed 01 Feb 2014), Tobias Zimmerman in entry for John Vollmer and Elizabeth Zimmerman, 1877.
DEATH:
Name: Elizabeth Vollmar
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 29 Nov 1936
Event Place: Heidelberg,, Ontario
Gender:
Age: 82
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Birth Year (Estimated): 1854
Burial Date:
Burial Place:
Father's Name: Tobias Zimmerman
Mother's Name: Teil
Spouse's Name: John Vollmar
Reference ID: 035531
GS Film number: 2426618
Digital Folder Number: 4530562
Image Number: 00128
Citing this Record:
"Ontario Deaths,1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JKVH-RKN : accessed 01 Feb 2014), Tobias Zimmerman in entry for Elizabeth Vollmar, 1936.
23.
Maria Zimmerman
CENSUS: 1871 Canada Census
Name: Mary Zimmerman
Gender: Female
Age: 15
Birth Year (Estimated): 1856
Birthplace: O
Marital Status:
Nationality: German
Religion: Luthern
Event Place: 04, Woolwich b, North Waterloo 32, Ontario
Page Number: 33
Line Number: 16
House Number: 116
Family Number: 116
GS Film number: 4396336
Affiliate Film Number: C-9944
Digital Folder Number: 4396336
Image Number: 00402
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Mary Zimmerman F 15 O
Henry Zimmerman M 13 O
George Zimmerman M 11 O
William Zimmerman M 8 O
Citing this Record:
"Canada Census, 1871," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M4Q4-GCC : accessed 01 Feb 2014), Mary Zimmerman, Woolwich, North Waterloo, Ontario, Canada.
MARRIAGE: 1881
Name: Valentin Foerster
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Mar 1881
Event Place: Listowel, Perth, Ontario, Canada
Age: 33
Birth Year (Estimated): 1848
Father's Name: Ludwig Foerster
Mother's Name: Anna Maria Fliegter
Spouse's Name: Maria Zimmerman
Spouse's Age: 25
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1856
Spouse's Father's Name: Tobias Zimmerman
Spouse's Mother's Name: Catherine
Page: 009157
GS Film Number: 1869511
Digital Folder Number: 004529132
Image Number: 01143
Citing this Record:
"Ontario Marriages, 1869-1927," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FMJW-ZCR : accessed 01 Feb 2014), Tobias Zimmerman in entry for Valentin Foerster and Maria Zimmerman, 1881.
25.
George Zimmerman
ANCESTRY: No sources given!
http://trees.ancestryinstitution.com/tree/14575896/person/127932380
George K. Zimmerman
Birth 26 APR 1859 in Canada
Death 05 AUG 1911
Spouse
Matilda Balzer 1866 – 1928
Children
Private
Albert Adam Zimmerman 1888 – 1972
William B. Zimmerman 1890 – 1907
Karl Ezra Zimmerman 1892 – 1974
Ray George Zimmerman 1894 – 1961
Earl Henry Zimmerman 1897 – 1984
Reuben Austin Zimmerman 1899 – 1993
Theodore Herbert Zimmerman 1902 – 1980
Elmer John Zimmerman 1906 – 1977
Clara Emma Zimmerman 1908 – 1990
10.
Cornelius Hampton Carpenter
FSFT # MWC2-Y91
From Group 4 of the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project
Possible father is ...
Hamilton Cornelius Carpenter (c1790-1800 NC? - bet 1830/1840 GA)
**Brother Josiah - father b. VA per tax record m 1816 - son named Cornelius b.1843. **Brother Robert or first cousin - on tax record
**Brother John - on tax record - m. 1808
... and their speculated father …
John Carpenter - b. 1774 in VA d. 1839
Matilda Sharpe
FSFT # MWC2-Y3W
28.
Susan Carpenter
FSFT # MWC2-YSS
31.
Georgia Carpenter
FSFT # MWC2-YSP