Descendants of Group 5 - Zimmermans / Carpenters
Notes
232.
Johann Christopher "Christopher" Zimmerman
BAPTISM: image
Name: Christoph Zimmermann
Event Type: Taufe (Baptism)
Birth Date: 16. Mrz 1692 (16 Mar 1692)
Baptism Date: 17. Mrz 1692 (17 Mar 1692)
Baptism Place: Sulzfeld, Preußen, Baden
Father: Christian Zimmermann
Mother: Eva Zimmermann
Parish as it Appears: Sulzfeld
Page number: 66
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Baden and Hesse Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1502-1985 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
Original data:
Mikrofilm Sammlung. Familysearch.org
Originale: Lutherische Kirchenbücher, 1502-1985.
MARRIAGE: 1714 - image
Name: Christoff Zimmermann
Gender: männlich (Male)
Event Type: Heirat (Marriage)
Marriage Date: 4 Sep 1714
Marriage Place: Bietigheim, Württemberg (Baden-Württemberg), Deutschland (Germany)
Spouse: Elizabetha Albrechts
Publication City or District: Bietigheim
Author: Evangelische Kirche Bietigheim (OA. Besigheim)
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Württemberg, Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1500-1985 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
Original data: Lutherische Kirchenbücher, 1500-1985. Various sources.
IMMIGRATION: 1717
Name: Christopher Zimmerman
Arrival year: 1717
Arrival Place: Virginia
Primary Immigrant: Zimmerman, Christopher
Family Members: Wife Elizabeth; Son John; Son Andrew
Source Publication Code: 3771
Annotation: Date of arrival at the colony at Germanna, Virginia. In 1725 the entire colony moved to the Robinson River near the foot of the Blue Mountains, in present Madison County. Much genealogical information.
Source Bibliography: KEITH, ARTHUR LESLIE. "The German Colony of 1717." In The William and Mary Quarterly (Institute of Early American History and Culture, Williamsburg, VA), ser. 1, vol. 26:2 (October 1917), pp. 79-95; vol. 26:3 (January 1918), pp. 178-195; vol. 26:4 (April 1918), pp. 234-249.
Household Members:
Name Relation
Christopher Zimmerman
Elizabeth Zimmerman Wife
Andrew Zimmerman Son
John Zimmerman Son
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Source Citation
Place: Virginia; Year: 1717; Page Number: 234
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc, 2010.
Original data: Filby, P. William, ed. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI, USA: Gale Research, 2012.
COMMENT:
Spotsylvania County, VA was created in 1720 from Essex, King and Queen, & King William Counties.
Orange County, VA was created in 1734 from Spotsylvania County.
Culpeper County, VA was created in 1748 from Orange County.
Madison County, VA was created in 1792 from Culpeper County.
COMMENT:
This means say a person who came to Virginia say in 1717 and settled in one place could have been in all of the above counties by 1749. And their decendants being in Madison County.
From Page 44 (Digital page 55) of the book cited below.
"The first settlers in Spotsylvania County lived about the old Lutheran church or at the foot of the Blue Ridge Mountains, on the Rapid Ann and Robinson Rivers. They did not move from this settlement or locality, although the name of the county changed four times from 1734 to 1790."
BOOK: EXTRACT
Clasping Hands With Generations Past - by Emma Rouse Lloyd, G929.2 R 863L pages 4, 48-57. Located at the Indianapolis, Indiana Library. Published in 1932. Includes Carpenters and Zimmermans.
SEE ALSO: FamilySearch.org Books
Clasping hands with generations past MCMXXXII (1932)
Title No 8689
Creator Lloyd, Emma Rouse, b. 1858
Extent 228 p.
Language English
Access Level Public
NOTE:
Book data OCRed and cleanup efforts were made, some transition errors may remain. Please compare to original work. JRC 29 Aug 2021
COMMENT:
This report is of data extraction citing related pages for Carpenters and Zimmermans in the above book.
- The Zimmerman Family section runs from book page 41 (Digital page 52 - aka +11) to page 57. Please take this in account with the following book index.
- The Allied Families section runs from book page 153 to 156 regarding Zimmermans.
- The Carpenter Family section runs from book page 158 to 161.
THE FOLLOWING IS FROM THE ABOVE IN RELATION TO THIS CHRISTOPHER ZIMMERMAN.
Page 41 (Digital page 52)
THE ZIMMERMAN FAMILY
CHRISTOPHER ZIMMERMAN* was born in Germany. In the year 1717 he emigrated with his Wife Elizabeth and two children, John and Andrew, to America. They came with a colony of twenty families (about eighty persons) who left Alsace on account of religious persecution.
Their intended destination was Pennsylvania. After a stormy and disastrous voyage of many weeks they were driven south and west, reaching land in Chesapeake Bay. Sailing up the Bay and the Rappahannock River to the head of tide water navigation, the ship anchored at Rappahannock, Virginia.
The colony first settled near Germanna where an earlier colony was located.
They later moved to the valley of the Robinson River and White Oak Run, in what is now (in 1932) Madison County. “The time of their removal can not now be fixed positively. It certainly was not earlier than April 23rd, 1724.” (**)
Their first work was to build a fort which could be used as a protection against hostile Indians. It was also used as a place of worship.
Later the German Chapel was built which was first called "Die Hoffmungs-volle Kirche,” or the Church of Good Hope.
Thus its offspring in Boone County, Ky. became Hopeful Church while the original
Hopeful Church in Virginia became the famous Hebron Lutheran Church, one of the oldest churches of its kind in the New World.
The first church consisted of a one room cabin of unhewn logs
with puncheon floor and seats of saplings, while a few logs at each
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* Huddle, History of Hebron Cburch, p. 11:
“ (**) Tradition has still preserved thirteen surnames which are said to be those of the first settlers. They are Carpenter, Zimmerman.
Again, p. 15, Mr. Huddle states: “We give the names of twenty-two German settlers” who first patented lands on the Robinson River and White Oak Run, June 24,1726. They are . . . Christopher Zimmerman . . . William Cimberman (Carpenter).
These and other early records seem conclusive evidence that there was a William (Cimberman) Carpenter in the 1717 colony and that there is nothing to show that he was related to Christopher Zimmerman.
Many puzzling questions face the genealogist owing to the changing of foreign names to an anglicized form and while it is true that some of the Zimmerman family adopted the English name, Carpenter, it is also true there were Carpenters among the early settlers who bore that name when they came to this country. For further data concerning the Carpenters, see Allied Families.
(20 Land Book, Richmond, Va., No. 12, pp. 474-483.)
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Page 42 (Digital page 53)
...
The names of the founders of Hebron church are lost, but among the names of the first twenty-two German settlers who patented lands on the Robinson River and White Oak Run, June 24th,1726, is that of Christopher Zimmerman.
Again among those who patented lands, September 28th, 1728, we find the names of Christopher Zimmerman and John Rouse. The Rev. Wm. P. Huddle in his History of the Hebron Lutheran Church of Madison County, Virginia, mentions Christopher Zimmerman as one of the first settlers to patent land in Spotsylvania County, and as one of the founders and original trustees of the church.
At Court held for Spotsylvania County on Thursday the fifth of April, 1728, Order Book 1724 to 1730, pp. 107-108.
" On petition Christopher Zimmerman in order to prove his right to take up land according to the Royal Charter, made oath that he came into this country in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and seventeen, and that he brought Elizabeth his wife and John and Andrew his children with him and that this is the first time of his proving their said importation whereupon certificate is ordered to be granted them of right to take up 200 acres of land.”
Christopher Zimmerman was appointed Surveyor of Roads and was one of the leading spirits of the little band of pioneers. He took an active part in the affairs of the community and became the owner of large tracts of land.
In 1729 on petition of Michael Clore to have a road cleared from Mr. John Lightfoot's plantation into the Germanna road, Christopher Zimmerman was appointed overseer of the work.
Page 43 (Digital page 54)
In 1729 the records of Spotsylvania County (Deed Book A) recite that Christopher Zimmerman, “cooper,” conveyed 200 acres of land to Frederick Cobler, Planter, for a consideration of 40 pounds currency, and on Oct. 6, 1730 he conveyed to William Johnson, 280 acres, “part of a tract granted said Zimmerman by patent Sept. 28, 1728. Her dower right to the land in this deed was conveyed by “Elizabeth, wife of Christopher Zimmerman,” on Dec. 1, 1730.
In 1734, he was appointed surveyor of the highway "from the German Road to Potatoe Run.”
In 1740, he was commissioned a Lieutenant in the Virginia Militia, by the Court of Orange County, and the commission was renewed in 1742.
In the Order book of the Augusta County (Va) Court, there is an entry, dated April 15, 1746, showing a return into court of an appraisement of the improvements on 400 acres of land, patented by Christopher Zimmerman, probably the tract devised in his will to his daughter Katherine. The report makes a valuation “on improvements on 400 acres on the James River, Feb. 13, 1745, of 137 apple trees planted and carried there 150 miles, £3; meat and bread carried the same distance and liquor, .51.”
From Stanard’s "Colonial Virginia” Page 125, we quote:
“The settlers . . . carried peach and apple trees on pack horses across the mountains .
In 1745, one of these, Christopher Zimmerman, carried a hundred and thirty-seven apple trees a hundred and fifty miles and planted them on his tract on the upper James River.”
WILL OF CHRISTOPHER ZIMMERMAN
“In the name of God Amen. I, Christopher Zimmerman, of St.
Mark's Parish in the County of Orange, being of perfect mind and
memory, Thanks be given the Almighty God there for, do make this,
my last will & Testament in Manner and Form following, that is to
say, first, I recommend my soul to Almighty God who gave it, hoping
Thro’ the Merits of my Dear Redeemer, Jesus Christ, to obtain
forgiveness for all my Sins & as to my Body to be decently buried at the
Discretion of my Executors hereafter mentioned and touching the
Temporal Estate as it has been the pleasure of God to bestow upon
me. I dispose of it in manner following, viz.: first, my desire is that
my just debts and funeral Expenses be paid.
Item-I give unto my Son, John Zimmerman, five pounds Current
Money of Virginia to be paid by Exefs out of my outlying Debts and
Personal Estate.
Item-I give to my daughter, Barbara Zeigler, my second best
horse that I have at my death.
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Page 45 (Digital page 56)
ltem-I give and bequeath to my Son, Frederick Zimmerman, the plantation whereon he now liveth containing two hundred Acres lying in the fork of Stony Run, to him and his heirs forever.
Item-I give and bequeath to my Son, Christopher Zimmerman, the plantation whereon I now live, containing two hundred Acres of Land, part o.fa Patent of four hundred Acres of Land, after the decease or marriage of my wife, Eliza Zimmerman, to him and his heirs forever.
Item-I give and bequeath to my daughter, Elizabeth Zimmerman, the remaining part of the Tract of Land whereon I now live, being part of a Patent of four hundred and forty Acres also to her and her heirs forever, also one Bed commonly called “Betty’s Bed” with the Furniture, also one oval Table and six black walnut Chairs.
Item--I give and bequeath to my Daughter, Katherine Zimmerman, four hundred Acres of Land lying in Augusta County on the West Side of the Blue Ridge, to her and her heirs forever. Also one Bed and Furniture, commonly called “Katherine’s Bed and Furniture,” also one oval Table and six black walnut Chairs, and also one Sorrel pacing Horse branded on the near Buttocks and Shoulder thus LyZ.
Item-I give all my Personal Estate not yet given, to be equally divided between my loving Wife, Eliza Zimmerman and my six Children and, I do constitute and appoint my loving Wife Eliza Zimmerman and my two Sons, John and Frederick Zimmerman, Executors 8:
Administrators of this my last will and testament revoking all former
wills heretofore by me made, ratifying and confirming this to be my
last will and testament in witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand
and seal this 30th day of November, 1748.
Probate March 23, 1749
Christopher Zimmerman
Witnesses
Eras Tyler
Francis Strother
his
Frederick X Cobler
mark
Other than the statement of his father that Andrew Zimmerman was brought to this country in 1717, there is no record of him. He
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Page 46 (Digital page 57)
probably died unmarried, and before his father's death in 1748, as there is no mention of him or his heirs in Christopher Zimmerman’s will.
Christopher Zimmerman left an estate of more than one thousand
acres of land.
It is known that Elizabeth, wife of Christopher Zimmerman I, was living at the time of her husband’s death in 1748. We infer that she died before July 21, 1757, because their son Christopher was not to have possession of the land his father willed him until after his mother's death, and he deeded some of this land on July 21, 1757.
CHRISTOPHER ZIMMERMAN1, died in 1748, in Culpeper County. His wife died about 1757, in the same county.
Children:
a John, m. Ursuly or Ursula
b Andrew, no record
C Barbara, m. Leonard Zeigler
d Frederick, rn. Sara/9
e Christopher II, no heirs, died in 1781
f Elizabeth, m. Mathias Weber
g Katherine, m. William Slaughter
DEATH:
Died after his will dated 30th day of November, 1748.
ANd before his probate dated March 23, 1749.
Some claim death in Dec 1748, but without proof.
See WILL: above
GRAVE: no image - some errors
Johann Christopher Zimmerman III
Birth: 16 Mar 1692 Baden-Württemberg, Germany
Death: Dec 1748 (aged 56) Culpeper County, Virginia, USA
Burial: Hebron Lutheran Church Cemetery, Madison, Madison County, Virginia, USA
Memorial #: 76020338
Bio: Baptised March 17,1692 Sulzfield,Germany
Heritage: Steffisburg, Canton of Bern,
Switzerland to Ravanberg,Baden,Germany.
Member of second Germanna Colony.
Lt.Militia, 1735-1742 Va.
Occupation a cooper and building
roads.
Born in Sulzfeld,Karlsruhe,
Baden-Wuerttemburg, Germany
Parents:
Hans Christian Zimmerman,Sr.(1669-1735)
Maria Eva Dunstlerin Zimmerman (1662-1698)
Grandparents:
Hans Christian Zimmerman
Maria Schuchter
Married twice:
1st. marriage:
July 10,1710 Sulzfeld,Heidelberg,Germany
Dorothy Rottle b.1687 Horndorff,Germany
died:Jan.16,1714 Sulzfeld,Germany
Daughter of Martin Rottle,a baker,of Horndorff,Germany
2nd. marrage:
Sept.4,1714 Bietigheim,Germany
Anna Elisabetha Albrecht
Born in Bietigheim,Wuerttemberg,Germany
Came to Americia in 1717.
Children of Dorothy :
John b.Ap.11,1711 Sulzfeld,Germany, married
Ursula Blankerbaker, he died about 1796
in Va.
Stillborn birth (1713-1713)Germany
Children of Anna:
Johann Martin b.June 15,1715 Germany
died 1717 enroute to Va.
They lived in Spotsylvania Co.,Va.
Andreas Andrew b.1717 enroute to Va.-
Nothing more is known on him.
Barbara "Barbary" b.1718-1786
married Johann Leonhardt Zeigler
Christopher,Jr. b.1719-1781
Fredrick b. abt.1721 married Sarah
Elizabeth b.abt.1723 married James Conner
Catherine b.abt1726 married William Slaughter
Will dated: Nov.30, 1748
Probated: Mar.23,1749
Family Members
Spouses
Dorothea Rottle Zimmerman 1687-1714
Anna Elisabetha Albrecht Zimmerman 1687-1757
Children
Johann Zimmerman 1711-1796
Barbara Zimmerman Edwards 1718-1786
Christopher Zimmerman 1719-1781
Created by: Ninnette Zeigler (47299405)
Added: 5 Sep 2011
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/76020338/johann-christopher-zimmerman
Citation: Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/76020338/johann-christopher-zimmerman : accessed 29 August 2021), memorial page for Johann Christopher Zimmerman III (16 Mar 1692–Dec 1748), Find a Grave Memorial ID 76020338, citing Hebron Lutheran Church Cemetery, Madison, Madison County, Virginia, USA ; Maintained by Ninnette Zeigler (contributor 47299405) .
Dorothea Rottle
GRAVE: no image - some issues - memorial only?
Dorothea Rottle Zimmerman
Birth: 1687 Sigmaringen, Landkreis Sigmaringen, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
Death: 16 Jan 1714 (aged 26–27) Landkreis Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Germany
Burial: Unknown
Memorial #: 135693092
Bio: Dorothea was the daughter of Martin Rottle, mother unknown. She was born 1687 in Gunzenhausen, Sigmaringen, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany. July 27, 1710 in Bietigheim, Wurttemberg, Germany she married Johan Christopher Zimmerman.
She was the mother of two, John Zimmerman born April 11, 1711. He died 1796. She had a stillborn in 1713.
She died January 16, 1714 in Bietigheim, Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, Germany.
Family Members
Spouse
Johann Christopher Zimmerman 1692-1748
Children
Johann Zimmerman 1711-1796
Created by: Lynn Moats (47199166)
Added: 10 Sep 2014
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/135693092/dorothea-zimmerman
Citation: Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/135693092/dorothea-zimmerman : accessed 29 August 2021), memorial page for Dorothea Rottle Zimmerman (1687–16 Jan 1714), Find a Grave Memorial ID 135693092, ; Maintained by Lynn Moats (contributor 47199166) Unknown.
Anna Elizabetha "Elizabeth" Albrecht
BAPTISM:
Name: Anna Elisabetha Albrecht
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 15. Sep 1687 (15 Sep 1687)
Baptism Place: Evangelisch, Bietigheim, Neckarkreis, Wuerttemberg
Residence Place: Bietigheim, Württemberg, Germany
Father: Jerg Albrecht
Mother: Anna Elisabetha
FHL Film Number: 1184899
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Germany, Select Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
Original data: Germany, Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013.
MARRIAGE: 1714 - image
Name: Elizabetha Albrechts
Gender: weiblich (Female)
Event Type: Heirat (Marriage)
Marriage Date: 4 Sep 1714
Marriage Place: Bietigheim, Württemberg (Baden-Württemberg), Deutschland (Germany)
Father: Jerg Albrechts
Spouse: Christoff Zimmermann
Publication City or District: Bietigheim
Author: Evangelische Kirche Bietigheim (OA. Besigheim)
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Württemberg, Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1500-1985 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
Original data: Lutherische Kirchenbücher, 1500-1985. Various sources.
GRAVE: no image - memorial only?
Anna Elisabetha Albrecht Zimmerman
Birth: 15 Sep 1687 Stuttgart, Stadtkreis Stuttgart, Baden-Württemberg, Germany <--- need proof
Death: 1757 (aged 69–70) Culpeper County, Virginia, USA
Burial: Hebron Lutheran Church Cemetery, Madison, Madison County, Virginia, USA
Memorial #: 76020750
Bio: Parents:
Count George Albrecht
(May 14,1644-March 24,1745)
Hesse,Darmstadt,Hessen,Germany
Family Members
Spouse
Johann Christopher Zimmerman 1692-1748
Children
Barbara Zimmerman Edwards 1718-1786
Christopher Zimmerman 1719-1781
Created by: Ninnette Zeigler (47299405)
Added: 5 Sep 2011
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/76020750/anna-elisabetha-zimmerman
Citation: Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/76020750/anna-elisabetha-zimmerman : accessed 29 August 2021), memorial page for Anna Elisabetha Albrecht Zimmerman (15 Sep 1687–1757), Find a Grave Memorial ID 76020750, citing Hebron Lutheran Church Cemetery, Madison, Madison County, Virginia, USA ; Maintained by Ninnette Zeigler (contributor 47299405) .
485.
Johann Martin "Martin" Zimmerman
BAPTISM:
Name: Johann Martin Zimmermann
Event Type: Taufe (Baptism)
Birth Date: 15. Jun 1715 (15 Jun 1715)
Baptism Date: 16. Jun 1715 (16 Jun 1715)
Baptism Place: Sulzfeld, Preußen, Baden
Father: Christoph Zimmermann
Mother: Anna Elisabetha Zimmermann
Parish as it Appears: Sulzfeld
Page number: 106
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Baden and Hesse Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1502-1985 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
Original data:
Mikrofilm Sammlung. Familysearch.org
Originale: Lutherische Kirchenbücher, 1502-1985.
DEATH: Before 1717 Immigration - not listed - likely deceased.
486.
Andrew Zimmerman
His father reported that Andrew came with him from Germany in 1717.
487.
Christopher Zimmerman
LAND: 1730
Name: Christopher Zimmerman
Date: 6 Oct 1730
Location: Spotsylvania Co., VA
Property: 280 a. in St. Geo. Par., Spts. Co.
Notes: This land record was originally published in "Virginia County Records - Spotsylvania County, 1721-1800, Volume I" edited by William Armstrong Crozier.
Remarks: Christopher Zimmerman of St. Geo. Par., Spts. Co., to William Johnson of same county and parish. 20, 280 a. in St. Geo. Par., Spts. Co.-part of tract granted sd. Zimmerman by patent Septr. 28, 1728. Decr. 1, 1730. Elizabeth, wife of Christopher Zimmerma
Description: Grantor
Book: B
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Source Information
Ancestry.com. Virginia, U.S., Land, Marriage, and Probate Records, 1639-1850 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2004.
Original data:
Chalkley, Lyman. Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia, 1745-1800. Extracted from the Original Court Records of Augusta County. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1965. Originally published in 1912.
Crozier, William Armstrong, ed. Virginia County Records - Spotsylvania County Records, 1721-1800. Being transcriptions from the original files at the County Court House of wills, deeds, administrators' and guardians' bonds, marriage licenses, and lists of revolutionary pensioners. New York, NY: Fox, Duffield & Co., 1905.
The will abstracts for Isle of Wight and Norfolk counties were taken from microfilmed copies of the original Will Books. Some of these records may be found at the Family History Library as well as other libraries and archives. The originals may be found at the appropriate county courthouses.
For individual sources please see the Notes section listed with each record.
GRAVE:
Christopher Zimmerman IV
Birth: 1719 Spotsylvania County, Virginia, USA
Death: 1781 (aged 61–62) Culpeper County, Virginia, USA
Burial: Hebron Lutheran Church Cemetery, Madison, Madison County, Virginia, USA
Memorial #: 108046638
Bio: Never married.
Family Members
Parents
Johann Christopher Zimmerman 1692-1748
Anna Elisabetha Albrecht Zimmerman 1687-1757
Siblings
Barbara Zimmerman Edwards 1718-1786
Half Siblings
Johann Zimmerman 1711-1796
Created by: Ninnette Zeigler (47299405)
Added: 8 Apr 2013
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108046638/christopher-zimmerman
Citation: Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108046638/christopher-zimmerman : accessed 29 August 2021), memorial page for Christopher Zimmerman IV (1719–1781), Find a Grave Memorial ID 108046638, citing Hebron Lutheran Church Cemetery, Madison, Madison County, Virginia, USA ; Maintained by Ninnette Zeigler (contributor 47299405) .
247.
Johannes Paul Zimmermann
ANCESTRY:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/39109691/person/19326249341
Parents
Hans Caspar ZIMMERMANN 1702 – 1771
Elisabetha KISTLER 1690 – 1730
Spouse & Children
Maria Catharina STEIN 1749 – 1786
Anna Catharina Zimmermann 1773 – 1827
Elisabetha ZIMMERMANN 1775 –
Johann Paul Zimmermann 1779 – 1813
Christian Duplicate of 104583 Deppen
Christian Deppen came to America in 1736 on the ship Princes Augusta.He was naturalized in 1734 and took the oath of allegiance to Coloniesin 1778. His will was written on 27 September 1775 and probated on 24September 1782.
263.
Christian Zimmerman
He may be the Christian Zimmerman who was an Anabaptist living on thelow ridge near Fortelbach, Markirch, Alsace in 1737.
269.
Jerg Christian "Christian" Zimmerman
FSFTID # GZZG-T16
Friederica Elisabeth Weber
FSFTID # K64S-F1S
508.
Maria Juliana Zimmermann
FSFTID # M6ZC-WBK
509.
Johanna Barbara Zimmermann
FSFTID # M6ZC-W17
510.
Johanna Margaretha Zimmermann
FSFTID # M6ZC-W1J
511.
Johann Ludwig Zimmermann
FSFTID # M6ZC-4MQ
Anna Barbara Werner
FSFTID # 941S-9JJ
Maria Catharina Ziegler
FSFTID # LD34-9TZ
512.
Maria Barbara Zimmermann
FSFTID # LB2M-V7W
514.
Heinrich Zimmerman
FSFTID # LH5P-M7B
Anna Catharina Rupp
FSFTID # LH5G-22N
515.
Johnannes Zimmerman
FSFTID # LH5G-LH1
Anna Muller
FSFTID # LH5G-G6Q
517.
Anna Marie Zimmerman
FSFTID # LH5G-5JK
271.
Johanne "Hans" "John" Zimmerman
NOTE: See other Hans "John" b. abt 1702 (RIN 90467)
NOTE:
Hans Zimmerman is the tentative agreed upon common ancestor of Group 5 with RCC caveat; The
DNA provides evidence and all other data strongly suggests this link. No documented proof has yet to be discovered and may never be discovered. I am about ready (Bob has already) to conclude this link without the hedge. RCC Jul 2012
BOOK: "Carpenters A'Plenty" by Robert C. Carpenter.
Following is the drop-down lineage from the immigrant ancestor to Bob, using Robert C. Carpenter's
CAP numbering system:
John Carpenter, surname anglicized from Hans Zimmermann, b c1702 Switzerland, d 1794 NC:
#C. Christian 'CZ' Carpenter, b c1721, d 1800:
#C(10). Frederick Carpenter, b c1772, d 1829:
#C(10)3. Joseph Carpenter, b c1795, d aft1850:
#C(10)31. John T. Carpenter, b c1820-5, d 1895:
#C(10)316. Noah Z. P. Carpenter, b 1877, d 1955:
#C(10)3165. George B. Carpenter, b 1909, d 1980
#C(10)31652. Bob Carpenter - Living
NAME: aka John or Hans Carpenter
From: Robert Carpenter mailto:rcarpenter2@charter.net>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 10:59 AM
To: John R. Carpenter 2 mailto:johnrcarpenter@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project - Group 5
John,
... I can verify the lineage from Barto Charles Carpenter through Jacob Zimmerman. I do believe that he
was the son of Hans of the Pink Plaisance which you have as the next generation. The DNA provides
evidence and all other data strongly suggests this link. No proof has yet to be discovered and may
never be discovered. I am about ready (Bob has already) to conclude this link without the hedge.
Trash the rest! We do not know who the father of Hans is. I have a candidate in Steffisburg--Hans and
Caterina Spring Zimmerman; Bob of CA adheres to the ideas of Richard Warren Davis that Hans was
the son of the Amish Preacher Peter Zimmerman of Alsace, migrating from Steffisburg. One of us or
neither of us may be correct. I do think that one of us is correct.
I am cautiously optimistic that something may be discovered in Swiss records to prove or disprove one
of these lines. There were so many Zimmermans in Steffisburg and so many in Alsace! Sorting them
with out consistent parish baptismal records is a challenge (to say the least).
Let me know if this makes sense!
Robert C.
In America Hans Zimmerman was also known as John Carpenter.
Zimmerman, a Mennonite family name found in West Prussia and South Germany, is also found regularly
in North America as well. It is most probable that the West Prussian Zimmermann family was
originally called Timmermann (Dutch for Carpenter) and that Timmermann was the form used until the
18th Century in the Danzig area.
The Deeds of Lancaster Co., PA prove that the elder Hans Zimmerman of the Pink Plaisance was the
brother of Peter Zimmerman of Cocalico Twp., who arrived on the Ship Friendship.
Richard Warren Davis wrote in his book, "Emigrants, Refugees and Prisoners", on page 06: 212. [?]
Hans Zimmerman, b. 1702. He was age30 when he arrived in 1732 on the ship Pink Plaisance. He was
marriedfirst to Salome who was age 34 in 1732 and secondly, Sarah between1750 and 1752.
He bought large tracts of land in Cocalico Township and Earl Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania
beginning in 1733. (Deed C-89,Lancaster)
He was taxed at Cocalico twp., Lancaster County in 1751.
He was not taxed at Cocalico in 1756. Hans was the administrator of the estate of Ulrich Zimmerman
who died in 1738.
He also posted bond for Nicholas Zimmerman's estate in 1752.
He had a number of deed transactions in Lancaster County. In a deed dated 1748, Hans Zimmerman
and his wife Salome, sold 85 acres of land in Earl Township to Christian Zimmerman and his wife
Barbara.Christian Zimmerman sold that land on 9 January 1752 to his brother Hans Zimmerman. (Deed
F-276, Lancaster).
In the deed dated 1752 it referred to Hans as late of CocalicoTownship. Hans apparently left Cocalico
by 1752. Hans was probably related to the Christian and Hans Zimmerman of Earl Township )deed
of1752), but was not their father.
In a deed dated 17 May 1750, Hans Zimmerman and his wife, Salome conveyed part of 1042 acres they
patented in 1739 in Cocalico Township to Hans' brother Peter Zimmerman. (Deed A-159, Lancaster).
The land was next to Ulrich Zimmerman's land. He was last of Cocalico in a deed dated 16 May 1753.
(Deed D02, Lancaster).
In 1755 Hans' lands were sold to Peter Bricker to pay off debts. At that time Hans failed to appear at a
hearing. (Deed D-303,Lancaster).
In 1757 more land of Hans Zimmerman was sold by the sheriff to pay debts and it was stated in the
deed that Hans "was late of my county". He apparently moved from Lancaster County by 1757. Above
from "EMIGRANTS, REFUGEES AND PRISONERS" by: Richard Warren Davis.
Benjamin Franklin in 1732 began publication of "Poor Richard's Almanack".
NOTE:
Wattenwil is a municipality in the administrative district of Thun in the canton of Bern in Switzerland.
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GRAVE: memorial only
Johannes “Hans” Zimmerman
Birth: 29 Dec 1702 Bern, Switzerland
Death: 10 Jun 1794 (aged 91) North Carolina, USA
Burial: Unknown
Memorial #: 43338580
Family Members
Spouse
Sarah Salome Zimmerman 1698-1790
Children
Anna Zimmerman Hildebrand 1725-1792
Jacob (Zimmerman) Carpenter 1734-1807
Created by: Ronald Halford (47177801)
Added: 20 Oct 2009
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/43338580/johannes-zimmerman
Citation: Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 05 February 2021), memorial page for Johannes “Hans” Zimmerman (29 Dec 1702–10 Jun 1794), Find a Grave Memorial no. 43338580, ; Maintained by Ronald Halford (contributor 47177801) Unknown.
Sarah Salome
NAME:
Hans Zimmermans wife's surname remains unknown. It may be Ruffner but no documentary evidence has proven that surname. For this reason it has been removed. JRC May 2014.
GRAVE: not really memorial only
Sarah Salome Zimmerman
Birth: 1698 Plauen, Vogtlandkreis, Saxony (Sachsen), Germany
Death: 1790 (aged 91–92) Lincoln County, North Carolina, USA
Burial: Unknown
Memorial #: 43339149
Family Members
Spouse
Johannes Zimmerman 1702-1794
Children
Anna Zimmerman Hildebrand 1725-1792
Jacob (Zimmerman) Carpenter 1734-1807
Created by: Ronald Halford (47177801)
Added: 20 Oct 2009
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/43339149/sarah-salome-zimmerman
Citation: Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 05 February 2021), memorial page for Sarah Salome Zimmerman (1698–1790), Find a Grave Memorial no. 43339149, ; Maintained by Ronald Halford (contributor 47177801) Unknown.
272.
Nicholas Zimmerman
Nicholas was listed as age 50 when he arrived in Philadelphia with a large group of
Mennonites in 1732 on the ship Pink Plaisance with his wife Elizabeth, age 30.
He was closely related to Hans Zimmerman of Cocalico Twp., who also arrived on the
same ship, but he was not Hans' father so I am assuming that they listed his age
wrong on the ship list and that his age may have been closer to the age of his wife
Elizabeth.
He was probably the brother of Hans Zimmerman.
He was taxed at Cocalico in 1751 and on 6 Feb 1755 at the Orphan Court of Lancaster
County his wife Elizabeth was listed as the administrator of the estate of Nicholas
Zimmerman. It stated that he had two daughters.
273.
Peter Zimmerman
Peter Zimmerman was born on 6 April 1708 and arrived on the ship"Friendship" on 3 September 1739. Ref: Harold Quin, 5300 Hudson Rd.,Lake ?Wylie, SC 29710-9506. (803) 831-2440.
Emigrants, Refugees and Prisoners, (An Aid to Mennonite FamilyResearch), Volume 1, Richard Warren Davis - page 407-408
2143 [?] Peter Zimmerman, b. 1704 (actually on 6 April 1708). He diedin 1790 at Cocalico twp., Lancaster County, PA. He was married to Annaas his seocnd wife. He had three daughters by his first wife and oneson by his second wife. He is probably the Peter Zimmerman who arrivedon the ship Friendship on 3 September 1739, age 35, the same day alarge group of Mennonites on ship Robert and Alice landed. He wastaxed at Cocalico in 1751. He bought land in Cocalico twp., from hisbrother Hans in 1747, 1750 and 1753. He sold the land he bought fromhis brother Hans (in 1747) to George Wohlfart in 1767 (Ref: DeedH-386, Lancaster Co., PA.
21431 Elizabeth Zimmerman
21432 Anna Zimmerman
21433 Barbara Zimmerman
21434 Peter Zimmerman, b. c 1755
Robert C. Carpenter wrote this essay: "Peter Zimmerman Sr. of Cocalico Township"
On September 3, 1739, Better (Peter) Zimerman arrived on the Friendship in Philadelphia with Wm. Vitery, Commander. Peter joinedhis kinsmen, other Zimmermans (variously spelled Zimerman, Zimmerman,Zimmermann(, who had previously settled in Cocalico and EarlTownships, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. On November 27, 1745,Peter Carpenter received a warrant for 50 acres in Lancaster County.In addition "his brother" Hans Zimmerman, the immigrant on the PinkPlianance arriving September 21, 1732, deeded Peter property inCocalico Township where Peter made his home. On June 12, 1747, Hansdeeded Peter 603 acres; on May 16 1753, he deeded him additional 42acres. Hans and Peter also received a warrant together for 100 acreson May 18, 1750. Proof that Peter and Hans were brothers may be foundin the deed between Hans and wife Salome to Frances Bowes' widowRachel. This deed, dated May 17, 1750, involved two tracts in CocalicoTownship. ["Pennsylvania Archives, 3rd Series, Volume 24, Warrantiesof land 1730-1898, Lancaster Co., Vol. I pp376-391, Vol. I pp567-568.Lancaster Co. Deeds Bk-C, p-89; Bk-D, p-1. Pa. German Pioneers Vol. 1,pp-78-83. Deed Bk-A, p-159 details that Hans and Peter wereBrothers."]
Erle C. Zimmerman Notes:
Indenture June 12, 1747 (Lancaster Co., Deed Book C, page 89)
John Carpenter of Cocalico Township and Salome. his wife of one partand Peter Carpenter of the same township, yeoman, of the other part,conveyed two tracts of land to Peter Carpenter, one tract containing603 acres and the other containing 36 acres from original tracts of903 acres and 1023 acres. Consideration 266 pounds.
Indenture June 4, 1767 (Lancaster Co., Deed Book H, page 386
Peter Zimmerman and Anna, his wife, of Cocalico Township, of one partand George Wohlfarht of the other part. Conveyed tract of 116 acreswhich was part of a tract patented to John Zimerman, alias Carpenter,on February 13, 1733. Consideration 180 pounds.
Peter Zimmerman wrote a will in 1785 and died in 1790. In his will,peter mentioned Ann, his wife, Peter, Mary, Elizabeth, Anna andBarbara as children of his first wife and Jacob as child of his secondwife.
Robert C. Carpenter's
COMMENTS: May 2014 - Concerns regarding this lineage.
Peter Zimmerman of Cocalico TWP, PA: The lineage is a bit confused. The DNA has proven that Bernhard Zimmerman (the son of this Peter) does not match our DNA despite at least one descendant to indicate a family connection. That descendant, whom I have attempted a number of times to contact, did locate the Steffisburg records for our Zimmermans and gave me some leads into that family. I have no idea the name of Bernhard's father but strongly suspect that it was not Peter of Cocalico, based upon the DNA. By the way this Peter was the brother of our Hans, which tends to suggest that Amish Preacher Peter of Alsace was not the father of Hans since he died in 1697; our Hans and his brother Peter were born in early 1700. Also this Peter's first wife was named Anna but I have never seen that he married Anna Wohlfahrt. Peter had a daughter who married a Wohlfahrt. Some have speculated that his first wife was a Weber.
Robert C. Carpenter added (2/2015)
1. Peter of Cocalico left a will dated 1785 and probated 1790. He listed some but not all of his children. Within the ones he listed he did not include Bernhardt.
2. In 1791 Peter Zimmerman, his son, filed a lawsuit against a number of the "appellant[s]". He was listed as a resident of Cocalico Township and as a son of Peter.
Bernhardt was not listed on this list.
3. Peter was married twice to two Anns. His second wife wrote a will August 24, 1816 and did not name Bernhardt as a son.
4. May 1, 1821 John Loos, an attorney for "ten of the heirs of Peter Zimmerman" filed a release in the Lancaster County Register of Deeds. None of these heirs included Bernhardt.
5. Bernhardt appears not to be one of "our Zimmermans" for a couple of reasons. He enlisted as a Revolutionary soldier; so he either repudiated his Anabaptist beliefs or did not have them. He resided some distance from Lancaster County with no indication that he ever attempted to receive his inheritance from Peter of Cocalico. Others lived as far away as Virginia and sued to get their share. If he was a son, he surely would have done so. Family names in Bernhardt do not match ours as closely as ours match each others!
Using the documentation listed above, plus church records and tax records, I have created a family listing for Peter Zimmermann of Cocalico. I am going to list some basic information and if you want more details, write me:
Peter Zimmermann b. abt 1704; d prior to Oct 7, 1790 married (1) Anna (Weber possibly); (2) before July 8, 1775 Anne Bricker. Children 1st marriage:
1. Elizabeth m. Feb 7, 1748 George Wahlfahrt;
2. Ann m. -?- Martin;
3. Barbara m. prior to 1797 Dr. George Keller of the Ephrata Cloister. She had a family in Shennandoah Co, VA
4. Mary m. Christian Wenger (Wingert)
5. Peter m. Elizabeth and had one child baptized by Rev. Waldschmidt in Lancaster Co, PA in 1781
2nd marriage:
6. Christian m. and had at least one child named Elizabeth;
7. Salome m. Peter Geistweith;
8. Jacob m. Apr 3, 1785 Anna Rettloff or Rettloss from the Waldschmidt records.
Anna Weber
NAME:
Surname possibly Weber. Daughter Elizbeth married a Wohlfarht.
Dr. George Keller
... of the Ephrata Cloister.
Anna Rettloff
NAME:
Rettloff or Rettloss