Descendants of Group 5 - Zimmermans / Carpenters
Notes
276.
Christian Zimmermann
PARENT:
If the Group 5 family tree is correct, and if Dick Zimmerman's furtherst proven ancestor is indeed a son of Christian (as Larry's definitely is), then Christian Zimmermann of Denzlingen can only be a son of Peter b. 1668 (or of an unknown brother of Peter who just happened to have an identical mutation from 15 to 16 in the sixth position). John Schmeeckle (11 Feb 2015)
UPDATE: Sept 2021 - Larry Zimmerman comments:
{My] immigrant ancestors, came to America around 1840, a full century after the Zimmermans who settled in Pennsylvania. Our ancestors were devout Amish Mennonites who had been part of the congregation at the Hochburg in Baden. Michael, my immigrant ancestor settled in Butler County, Ohio, joining an Amish congregation there. [This ancestry] traces our ancestry back to Steffisburg.
Christian Zimmermann is of Sexau and Denzlingen. Thomas Lauber, a member of that Amish Mennonite family, published a book on his family and the Zimmermans,
The Laubers: A Journey of Faith (2008). Lauber hired John Huppi as his primary researcher, and
Huppi assembled a deeply researched genealogy of the Zimmermann family in Baden.
He began the Zimmermann genealogy with this:
Christian Zimmermann, apparently born somewhere within the territories
belonging to the Margrave of Baden-Durlach, Germany. From 11 November 1728
to 11 November 1738 he leased the properties in Sexau, Baden, belonging to the
children of Martin Dölder (Dölter), a deceased “arch-drunkard and curser.”
Christian was later leaseholder of the Zehnthof in Denzlingen, Baden, from
George’s Day (23 April) 1739[*] until his death sometime between 1765 and
1775. His wife’s given name is unknown, but her surname was probably Rupp.
[*Huppi footnote135] The community of Denzlingen petitioned the margrave on
1 August 1739 that Christian Zimmermann be exempted from the protection fee
required of Anabaptists. The community fathers stated that he was “born in the
land,” perhaps in order to obtain a favorable response.
A number of families named Zimmermann are attested among the Anabaptists living in the region of St.
Marie-aux-Mines, Alsace, down to 1712, when the king of France ordered the
expulsion of all Anabaptists from his realm. [Baecher’s article “La communauté
anabaptiste du bailliage de Sainte-Marie-aux-Mines, 1690-1730” is cited]
Christian may have been born shortly before or after the dispersion.
Huppi documented the children of Christian Zimmermann.
The late John Huppi is one of the few researchers whose work I accept without question.
Nevertheless, I verified for myself the original document Huppi reviewed, the petition claiming
Christian Zimmermann had been “born in the land.” With the help of Helmut Gingerich in
Germany, I obtained a scan of the 1739 document from the Baden-Wurttemberg archives. The
Denzlingen petitioners lauded themselves for recruiting an Anabaptist, “people who understand
the art of agriculture very well . . . [specifically] a worthy one named Christian Zimmermann.” A
marginal notation referring to Christian includes: “welcher im Land gebohren,” meaning “who
was born in this principality” (of Baden). However, the complete sentence reads: “welcher im
Land gebohren und bisher einen Hof zu Sexau in Bestand gehabt.” My emphasis is on the
second phrase, which translates to: “and previously had a farm in Sexau.” Thus, we learn, the
Christian Zimmermann who farmed the Dölder property at Sexau was one and the same with the
Christian Zimmermann who had just assumed the lease for the Zehnthof in Denzlingen in April
1739.
This is an important point of clarification, because the argument has been made that Christian
Zimmermann at Sexau had a son of the same name, born in Baden, and that it was the younger
Christian who took the lease in Denzlingen. Under this hypothesis, Christian junior, having been
“born in the land,” would explain the Denzlingen landlords’ plea to relieve Christian of full
payment of the protection fee normally accessed on Anabaptists. Zimmerman family researcher
John Schmeeckle proposed this idea in 2016, and he outlined it in a post on WikiTree.com,
which ends with this statement:
Christian Zimmermann of Sexau paid the protection fee in 1738 (because he was
a foreigner). Researcher John Huppi conflates this Christian Zimmermann with
his presumed son Christian, who leased an estate in Denzlingen in 1739 and in the
same year was exempted from paying the protection fee because he was born
in Baden.
John advanced his idea in good faith, but I think the 1739 document refutes it.
There is another hypothesis related to Christian Zimmermann, found online, which does not
stand up to scrutiny.
A genealogy on Ancestry.com shows Christian was born in 1695, that his parents were Christian
Zimmermann (1663-1713) and Ursula Breitenstein (1662-1714), and that his paternal
grandparents were Hans Zimmerman (1635-1708) and Barbara Gilgen (1640-1700).
The source cited for Christian Zimmermann and Ursula Breitenstein is “Germany, Select
Marriages, 1558-1929”, a database on Ancestry. It shows a Christo Zimmermann (as spelled in
the database), born at Berlipp, Bern, Switzerland, married Ursula Breitenstein on 30 July 1693 at
Auggen, Baden, Germany, and that Christo’s father was Hannss Zimmermann.
The reported marriage location, Auggen in Baden, caught my attention, because there were
Anabaptist families, including Zimmermanns, living at Auggen in the early 19th century. That
was more than a century after the 1693 marriage, but perhaps there was a Swiss Anabaptist
presence at Auggen much earlier. As I detailed above, the community of Denzlingen petitioned
the margrave of Baden-Durlach in 1739 on behalf of Christian Zimmermann (who was then the
leaseholder at the Zehnhof estate in Denzlingen) for tax relief, arguing that he, Christian, had
been “born in the land.” Auggen was, in fact, within Baden-Durlach, so if Christian was born at
Auggen, he would have been “born in the land.”
To investigate this possibility, I went to the Auggen church book and located the original
primary record referenced in that German marriages database, the marriage record for Christe (as
it was actually spelled) Zimmermann and Ursula Breitenstein. It confirms the marriage took
place on 30 Jul 1693, and that Christe Zimmermann, an unmarried farm worker (Dienstknect), a
native of Bern, the son of Hannß Zimmermann, a Calvinist from Belp (Canton Bern,
Switzerland) married Ursula Breitenstein, daughter of Jerg Breitenstein, citizen of Zeglingen of
Basel-Land (Switzerland) and a long-time resident at Auggen.
On 9 February 1697, Christian Zimmermann (as his name was spelled on that occasion) and his
wife Ursula Breitenstein presented a son named Christian for baptism at the Lutheran church in
Auggen. Christian, who was born four days before the baptism, was the third child of Christian
and Ursula, according to that entry. I found the records showing a son Hans Zimmermann was
baptized 30 May 1694 and a daughter Maria was baptized on 19 September 1695, thus
confirming that Christian was the third child. The names of the witnesses are not typical of the
Amish Mennonites. I researched many of them and found they appear to have been residents at
Auggen, likely Germans. Breitenstein too is not a Swiss Anabaptist family.
The 1693 marriage record for Christian Zimmermann indicated he was the son of Hannß
Zimmermann of Belp. I searched the Belp church registers and found that Hanß Zimmermann of
Belpberg and Elisabeth Schlechter had a son named Christen baptized there on 26 December
1669. If that is the Christian who married at Auggen in 1693—and I think it is—then Christian
was age 23 at the time of his marriage to Ursula. Note that the 1669 baptism entry done at Belp
does not identify the parents of Christian as Hans Zimmermann and Barbara Gilgen of
Steffisburg. That couple married at Steffisburg and had a son Christian in 1663, but I see no
evidence to support the hypothesis that this person was the grandfather of Christian
Zimmermann, born at Auggen, Baden in 1697. On the contrary, the Belp record disproves that
idea—Christian’ grandparents were Hanß Zimmermann of Belpberg and Elisabeth Schlechter.
I see nothing to hint an Amish Mennonite affiliation with any of these individuals at Belp or
Auggen, and Christian Zimmermann of Sexau/Denzlingen was Amish Mennonite.
Postscript: Christian Zimmermann and Ursula Breitenstein subsequently moved to the Kraichgau
region of Germany, 100 miles north of Auggen. I recently discovered the following entry in
Schweizer Einwanderer in den Kriachgau (Swiss Immigrants in the Kraichgau) by Diefenbacher,
et. al. (1983).
ZIMMERMANN, Christian, von Belp BE, [died] Weingarten [in Kraichgau]
13.11.1713 (50-jährig [age 50]) [married to] Ursula Breitenstein ([died]
Weingarten im Febr. 1714, 52-jährig)
Christian Zimmermann and Ursula Breitenstein relocated to Weingarten sometime after the birth
of their son Christian, presumably taking their children with them. Christian, born in 1697,
would have been about 17 when his parents died. His fate is unknown, but he was not Christian
Zimmermann of Sexau and Denzlingen.
So, who was Christian of Sexau and Denzlingen? Who were his parents? When and where was
he born?
We can set an approximate birth year with some confidence. In Ancestral Traces, I assumed
Christian was at least 20 years of age when he leased the farm at Sexau in 1728, but probably a
few years older. I entered “abt. 1705” as his birth year. If he was as young as 20 when he
assumed the Sexau lease, he was born in 1708. A reasonable range for his birth might be 1698-
1708.
Therefore, I find myself disagreeing slightly with John Huppi in the last line of the quotation I
inserted on pages 29-30. He said: “Christian may have been born shortly before or after the
[1712] dispersion [from Alsace].” Indeed he may have been born a few years before 1712, but
not after. Again, I estimate he was born between 1698 and 1708. And, if that is so, then he was
born in Alsace, either in the valley at Ste. Marie-aux-Mines, or in one of the villages on the
Alsatian plain that were home to the Amish immigrants from Steffisburg.
I do agree with Huppi when he flagged the fact that “A number of families named Zimmermann
are attested among the Anabaptists living in the region of St. Marie-aux-Mines, Alsace, down to
1712.” He drew the connection from Christian of Sexau/Denzlingen back to the Amish
Mennonites of Alsace on the basis of historical events. We know the Hochburg Amish
Mennonite congregation, founded near Sexau and Denzlingen in 1713, was an outgrowth of the
colony in Upper Alsace.
Y-DNA analysis was in its infancy when Huppi created his Zimmermann genealogy for Tom Lauber in 2008, but now we have genetic data to supportHuppi’s making the linkage to Alsace, and back to Steffisburg.
The Y-DNA evidence is clear:
The genetic legacy I inherited from Christian Zimmermann of Sexau/Denzlingen, my
documented 5th great-grandfather, was a legacy he inherited from his ancestors who lived at
Steffisburg and in Alsace. But as we know, the Y-DNA cannot tell us who his parents and
grandparents were. However, I think we can come up with probable candidates.
Perhaps it’s self-evident, but still worth stating: Christian was the son of a Zimmermann von
Steffisburg who had left Bern. That narrows the universe of potential fathers.
PARENT?
Could he have been the son of Hans Zimmermann, the grandson of Peter Zimmermann, the
Amish preacher? No. We have shown that Peter’s line “daughtered out” with no male progeny.
Could the Christen Zimmermann who ended up in Baden have been born of one of the
Zimmermanns I discussed in developing Lineage A, that is could he have been a direct
descendant of Christen Zimmermann, born ca, 1617-22, the forefather of the Zimmermanns who
married into the Blanck family? There is no evidence in the historical record to support such a
contention. That family migrated to Salm, from where some of the family members emigrated to
Pennsylvania. There is nothing to suggest that any member of this family line moved to Baden
and joined the Hochburg congregation there.
Christian might have been the grandson of Hans Zimmermann in der Weid through any one of his sons: Christen, Hans, Niclaus, or Peter. (Refer to the “Anthoni Zimmermann Family of Steffisburg” chart.)
I believe the weight of evidence suggests that Hans in der Weid’s first-born son Christian (b. 1657) was the
most likely father of Christian of Sexau/Denzlingen.
ANCESTRY:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/804134/person/6058438159
Real basic data, no sources. Best guess on birth years.
LOCATION:
Richard Zimmerman proposes his ancestor Christian Zimmerman who died between 1765 and 1775 in , Denslingen, Baden, Germany.
Larry Zimmerman has his ancestor Christian Zimmermann (abt 1705 - abt 1771) in Denzlingen, Emmendingen, Baden-Württemberg, Germany.
Since all searches for Denslingen, Baden go to Denzlingen, Baden, I think it is the same place.
ARTICLE:
See: ARTICLE RIN 175876 Christian Zimmerman ZimGen2005.doc
DESCENDANTS OF CHRISTIAN ZIMMERMANN OF DENZLINGEN - a provisional genealogy by John Schmeeckle
Jan. 2003 - updated May 2005
REFERENCES: Some noted via email - no pacticular order.
John Schmeeckle for the January 2003, Mennonite Family History magazine, Volume XXII, Number 1. His article was titled: Needle in the Haystack - How I found the European Origin of my Zimmerman Ancestors is recorded on pages 22 through 31.
John Schmeeckle writes ... About 12 years ago I did extensive research on this family, following the trailblazing work of professional genealogist John Huppi. Huppi's work focused exclusively on the family in Europe. I did a lot of independent research in the vital records of Alsace and Baden, and I also established around 10 separate immigrant lines, coming to America in the mid-19th century and settling primarily in Illinois and points west.
John Schmeeckle adds:
Christian Zimmermann of Denzlingen (c. 1700-1706) What is known of his life and children (with much information on later generations in Europe) comes from John Huppi's research for Tom Lauber, which is online at
Thomas Lauber published a book, The Laubers, A Journey of Faith, in 2008 (ISBN0-9642077) in which most of the Zimmermann genealogy in Europe is detailed.
Richard adds ... Other names in my Zimmerman ancestry include Diller (Thueler), Hochstetler, Amstutz, Lauber, Schneider. ...
I have the preliminary draft 5 of the Lauber book (European section) prepared by the Swiss genealogist, John Hueppi. Unfortunately, I have only a printed copy, but would be willing to make a copy (copies) (62 pages typed, single space, with 319 footnotes)
Larry Zimmerman, who last month published two articles on his Zimmerman ancestry in Mennonite Family History, January 2015, 34(1):4-9 and 10-11. Larry also published in 2014 Ancestral Traces: Zimmerman and Beer Family Journeys From Switzerland to America, Lulu Press, Raleigh, NC; ISBN:978-1-312-32724-5; 252 pages
Christian Rupp - (Rolf Brinkmann, Die Hochburg bei Emmendingen. 2007. Deutscher Kunstverlag GMBH Muenschen Berlin; ISBN 978-3-422-02098-6)
Richard Warren Davis, "Emigrants, Refugees and Prisoners - An Aid to Mennonite Family Research". He began his research in 1983 and published his book in 1995. (He met and worked with Robert Baecher in Alsace.) He later upgraded his book with various family reports. In his book, he covers both Peter Zimmermans, the Peter Zimmerman, b. 1668 is shown in his "Family B", and the Peter Zimmerman, b. c1640 is shown in his "Family D". The later one is the Peter who was married to Verena Stahli on 23 Mar 1666 and died in a freak accident in 1697 at Petite Liepvre, Alsace. In addition, he shows Hans Zimmerman, b. 7 Dec 1635 and Barbara Gilgan as the parents of Peter Zimmerman, b. 23 August 1668.
Robert Baecher, an independent scholar in France who has done groundbreaking research on Anabaptist history in Alsace and Switzerland. Finding and translating land and tax records in the Alsace and Bern. Robert Baecher also had an excellent article called “From Steffisburg to Ste. Marie-aux-Mines: The Exodus of Those Who Became Amish” in the January 2004 and April 2004 issues of Mennonite Family History. He had more information about Peter Zimmermann (b. abt. 1635) and his family in that article.
Robert Baecher wrote an article in 1996 for an edited book published by the Association française d'histoire anabaptiste-mennonite. His article, “The Patriarche of Sainte-Marie-aux-Mines,” was subsequently translated into English for the Mennonite Quarterly Review, January 2000.
Larry Zimmerman wrote ... My book, Ancestral Traces: Zimmerman and Beer Family Journeys From Switzerland to America (ISBN 9781312327245) is available through Lulu Press at lulu.com . I describe it as more than a genealogy because I tried to relate some of the social, political, economic, and religious events of the times in which the families lived, beginning in the 16th century and continuing to modern times. ...
Dick added info on ... "Mehr Zimmermans: Descendants of Johann Zimmermann and Anna Maria Schneider" is a spiral bound book compiled by John and Corrine Afton, May 1, 2002. Corrine was born in 1927 in Harper Co., Kansas. She served many years as a volunteer in the Genealogy Room at the Wichita Public Library. Unfortunately I do not have a mailing address for her and her e-mail address stopped working 5 or 6 years ago, which is when I lost touch with her. She and her husband published several other books including The Cemeteries of Butler County, Kansas. I think they lived in Benton, KS, for many years. The book was privately published and I don't know where you might locate a copy now.
EMAIL:
From: Larry Zimmerman mailto:larry-zimmerman@att.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 9:06 AM
To: John R Carpenter mailto:jrcrin001@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project - N136649 lineage update
John
I have good documentation to support the lineage all the way back to Christian Zimmermann (abt 1705 – abt 1771), my 5th great-grandfather. Professional genealogist John Hüppi was a premier researcher of Swiss Anabaptist family histories for many years and published a great deal in this area. His well-documented “Genealogical Outlines of Lauber and Zimmermann Families in Europe,” published in Thomas Lauber’s 2000 book, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, included this entry (p. 280):
Christian Zimmermann, [was] apparently born somewhere within the territories belonging to the Margrave of Baden-Durlach, Germany. From 11 November 1728 to 11 November 1738 he leased the properties in Sexau, Baden belonging to the Children of Martin Dölder . . . . Christian was later leaseholder of the Zehnthof in Denzlingen, Baden, from George’s day (23 April) 1739 until his death, sometime between 1765 and 1775. His wife’s given name is unknown, but her surname was probably Rupp. (end of quote)
Again, Hüppi provided citations from land records and other sources to support all the information he put forth in that paragraph.
Based on the dates given for the Sexau lease, I wrote in my history of the Zimmerman family that “if we assume that he [Christian] was at least 20 years of age when he leased the Sexau farm in 1828, then he was born no later than 1708 . . . However, it seems likely that Christian was a few years older when he leased the farm at Sexau, and I entered ‘About 1705’ as the date of his birth on the family tree.” Although Hüppi suggested that Christian might have been born in Baden-Durlach, I concluded that he was probably born in Upper Alsace, perhaps in the valley at Sainte-Marie-aux-Mines, which was the center of a sizeable Amish Mennonite presence until King Louis XIV ordered them out in 1712.
Given these dates, especially the year in which Christian began farming at Sexau, 1728, I think it doubtful that he was the Christian Zimmerman-154564 born 19 Aug 1710 in Sulzfeld, Baden. Moreover, I have found no evidence that my Zimmerman line went to the Karlsruhe region (Sulzfeld) after the dispersion out of Alsace. It appears they settled further south in Baden, in the Freiburg area. And there is no evidence I am aware of to suggest that the Christian in my lineage had a son Michael who immigrated in the 18th century to NC and KY.
Going back to Hüppi’s work, he found that Andreas Zimmermann (bef 1756 – 1793), my 4th g-grandfather as listed in the lineage, “followed his father, Christian, as leaseholder of the Zehnthof in Denzlingen, Baden, Germany, signing the new lease on behalf of his mother and himself in 1776. He later married Anna Maria Eissin. Andreas died in 1793."
I have solid documentary evidence to support the remainder of the lineage after Andreas: Michael, Daniel, Andrew, John, Walter, and Larry.
Thanks for the follow-up to my email. I am excited to be participating in the DNA project and look forward to getting the results of my 67-marker test. It looks like the kit has been sent from Houston, so I expect to get it in the next few days.
Regards
Larry Zimmerman mailto:larry-zimmerman@att.net>
Larry Zimmerman Notes & References:
On Ancestry
1. Larry Zimmerman, Ancestral Traces: Zimmerman and Beer Family Journeys From Switzerland to America, Lulu Publishing, Chapters 2 and 3, Larry L Zimmerman, San Diego, CA.A history of the author's Zimmerman and Beer family ancestors who originated in Switzerland and immigrated to America in the mid-19th century, eventually settling in Illinois. More than a genealogy, the book examines the forces that led families and individuals to come to the United States, and relates some of the social, political, economic, and religious events of the times in which the families lived, beginning in the 16th century and continuing to the present day.
2. Robert Baecher, From Steffisburg to Ste. Marie-aux-Mines: The Exodus of Those Who Would Become Amish (Part I and Part II), Mennonite Family History, pp. 4-16 (in Part I) and 69-81 (in Part II), 2004, Larry L Zimmerman, San Diego, CA.Published in two parts by Mennonite Family History: Volume XXIII, Number 1, January 2004 (pp. 4-16); and Number 2, April 2004 (pp. 69-81). Originally published in French in 2002. Translated into English by Neil Ann Stuckey Levine.Robert Baecher, a French independent researcher, has conducted his studies using original source material from archives in Switzerland and France, and he has published numerous articles in Souvenance Anabaptiste/Mennonitisches Gedächtnis (SA/MG), the annual journal published each year by the Association Française d’Histoire Anabaptiste-Mennonite (AFAHM)."The village of Steffisburg [was] the place of origin of many families [including some of the Zimmermann name] who came to settle in Alsace. . . . Steffisburg emerged [during the course of the author's years of research] as a kind of reservoir that nourished the group that became the first followers of Jacob Ammann. . . . [The Amish] flowered at Ste. Marie-aux-Mines and then spread out further as a result of the forced breakup of the community of believers in 1712."This two-part article presents the results of Robert Baecher's research on Anabaptist families who fled Steffisburg, Switzerland in the last decade of the 17th century for Sainte-Marie-aux-Mines and nearby areas of Alsace, including several Zimmermann families that Baecher identified. The absence of birth and other vital records for Anabaptists in the Catholic parish registers of the Alsace communes--the only source of such vital records before the French Revolution brought the advent of civil records--makes it impossible to trace a direct line of Zimmerman ancestry to specific individuals of that name in the Alsace Amish congregations at Saint-Marie-aux-Mines and Colmar, and thereby link back to specific persons named Zimmermann who are known to have resided at Steffisburg.Nevertheless, my known Zimmerman family ancestors living in Baden and France during the 18th and early 19th centuries were Amish Mennonites, and there is substantial evidence linking them to the Alsace congregations and Steffisburg.
3. Joseph Peter Staker, Amish Mennonites of Tazewell County, Illinois and Woodford County, Part One, Rŭpp to Ropp, p. 22; and The Stückers of Hilterfingen and Eriz, p. 80, 2013, World Wide Web.A three-part history of the Anabaptist origins in Europe and the immigration of numerous Amish Mennonite families to North America. Detailed genealogies of various families, including Zimmerman of Denzlingen (in Part Two). Well researched and documented. The entire text is available online at www.tcghs.org/links.htm A
full version of the work including document facsimiles, maps, and photos is available at the Tazewell County Genealogical & Historical Society in Pekin, Illinois, and the Mennonite Heritage Center in Metamora, Illinois. The text may be revised from time to time, and as a result, page numbers are subject to change. Consequently, citations to this source will be tied to sections as identified by their headings, which are less likely to change."[The Anabaptist congregation at Steffisburg] held a number of families that were later associated with [various families] of Central Illinois. Direct lines back to the congregation can be demonstrated for Brenneman (Brönniman of Oberdiessbach), Gingerich (Güngerich), Kaufman (Kaŭfmann), King (Küng and König), Oesch/Esch (Ösch of Oberlangenegg), Schweizer, Staker (Stüker of Hilterfingen and Eriz), and Yoder (Joder). They can also be assumed for Birkey (Bürcki), Farny (Farni), Gerber, Hodler (Hodel), Miller (Müller), Roth, Springer (Spring), and Zimmerman.In Steffisburg's Täufrödel 1557-1698, we found dozens of surnames that were later associated with Amish Mennonite families. [Staker provided dozens of surnames, including Zimmerman.] At least a third of these surnames, all found within a 12-mile area of the Swiss Oberland in the 1580s, were represented in Tazewell County [Illinois] three centuries later."Although nothing in this source serves to specifically identify my "Unknown Zimmerman" ancestor, but Joe Staker does establish that the Zimmerman family was included in the Anabaptist congregation at Steffisburg, and that the Zimmermans and numerous other families associated with that congregation eventually came to live in Central Illinois. In the case of the Zimmermans and several other families, it has not been possible to demonstrate a direct line back to the Swiss community, but as Staker declared, those direct lines can "be assumed "based on the totality of available evidence.
4. Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirch Steffisburg (Bern), Kirchenbuch, 1528-1875 [Steffisburg], Stattsarchive Bern, Taufen, Heiraten, and Tote records, 1551 through 1699, LDS Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah, FHL Film 2005786, 2005787, and 2005964.My examination of the Steffisburg Kirchenbuch for the period 1551 (the earliest extant entries) through 1699 revealed 72 marriages in which either the bride or groom had the surname Zimmermann. There are scores of Zimmermann children in the Steffisburg baptismal records for the same 1551-1699 timeframe. And, of course, there are Zimmermann names in the death registers. Those statistics may not be an exact measure of Zimmermann births and marriages and deaths because the Anabaptists did not always comply with the registry requirements, but clearly the Zimmermann family was well represented in the Steffisburg parish. Several examples of specific individuals found in these church records are found in my book Ancestral Traces. As explained in detail in that book, it is not possible to trace a direct line back to any one of the Zimmermanns living at Steffisburg in the late 17th century, just prior to the exodus of the Anabaptist community to Alsace, France, but a connection between the Zimmermanns of Steffisburg and my known ancestors living in Baden in the 18th century is strongly implied by the evidence at hand.
5. Larry Zimmerman, Ancestral Traces: Zimmerman and Beer Family Journeys From Switzerland to America, Chapters 2 and 3.
On Christian Zimmerman and his wife.
12. Joseph Peter Staker, Amish Mennonites of Tazewell County, Illinois and Woodford County, Part Two, Zimmerman of Denzlingen, Michael Zimmerman, p. 122, 2013."Christian [Zimmermann] was born on French territory. He was a leaseholder at Sexau 1728-38, then took a lease at Denzlingen until his death."It is not certain that Christian Zimmerman was born in France, but it is highly likely that he was. See the Lauber source citation for a more complete explanation of that assertion.
13. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Thomas R. Lauber, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008, Larry L Zimmerman, San Diego, CA, ISBN 0-9642077.A history of the Lauber and Zimmermann families. Appendix A, Genealogical Outlines of Lauber and Zimmermann Families in Europe, was written by John Huppi, a professional genealogist. Huppi provides detailed source citations for the information."Christian Zimmermann, apparently born somewhere within the territories belonging to the Margrave of Baden-Durlach, Germany. From 11 November 1728 to 11 November 1738 he leased the properties in Sexau, Baden, belonging to the children of Martin Dölder (Dölter), a deceased "arch-drunkard and curser." Christian was later the leaseholder of the Zehnhof in Denzlingen, Baden, from George's Day (23 April) 1739 until his death, sometime between 1765 and 1775. His wife's name is unknown, but her surname was probably Rupp."John Hüppi, the author of the source cited here did not explain his tentative conclusion that Christian was “apparently” born in Baden-Durlach, a conclusion that seems unlikely for the following reasons. Although nothing about Christian’s ancestry is known with certainty, his parents almost certainly lived in Alsace, and it is likely that Christian was born there. If we assume that he was at least 20 years of age when he leased the Sexau farm in 1728, then he was born no later than 1708, four years prior to the royal decree of King Louis XIV that prompted the dispersion of Anabaptists from Alsace. However, it seems more likely that Christian was a few years older than 20 when he leased the farm at Sexau, and I entered “About 1705” as his date of birth on the family tree. If that is correct, Christian of Sexau probably was the son of a Zimmermann family in the valley at Sainte Marie-aux-Mines. Given the absence of birth entries for Amish children in the French Catholic parish records, chances are remote that we will ever discover the names of Christian’s parents, his place of birth, or the exact date of his birth.
14. Mark Häberlein and Michaela Schmolz-Häberlein, Eighteenth Century Anabaptists in the Margravate of Baden and Neighboring Territories, The Mennonite Quarterly Review, Section: Anabaptist Settlement and Economic Activity, 2001, World Wide Web.Volume LXXV, October 2001, Number FourElectronic version retrieved from http://www.goshen.edu/mqr/pastissues/oct01schmolz.html."In March 1739, Christian Zimmermann leased for nine years the so-called Widdumsgut in Denzlingen, a hereditary fief of the collegiate chapter of St. Margarethen in Waldkirch administered by the community. Zimmermann had to deliver 60 Malter (9000 liters) of rye -- 30 to the collegiate chapter, 20 to the margrave's Burgvogtei, and 10 to the community -- and pay 135 gulden (silver coins) annually. When Zimmermann renewed the contract for the Widdumsgut in June 1757, Jakob Rupp, Anabaptist tenant of the Steckenhof estate, gave surety for him. Zimmermann rented the estate until his death in 1771. His widow then took over the lease contract with her son Andreas, for whom the Anabaptists Christian Leutweiler of Schupfholz and Jakob Zimmermann of the Hochburg estate gave surety in 1774."
15. Joseph Peter Staker, Amish Mennonites of Tazewell County, Illinois and Woodford County, Part Two, Zimmerman of Denzlingen, Michael Zimmerman, p. 122, 2013."Christian [Zimmermann] was born on French territory. He was a leaseholder at Sexau 1728-38, then took a lease at Denzlingen until his death."It is not certain that Christian Zimmerman was born in France, but it is highly likely that he was. See the Lauber source citation for a more complete explanation of that assertion.
16. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Christian Zimmermann, apparently born somewhere within the territories belonging to the Margrave of Baden-Durlach, Germany. From 11 November 1728 to 11 November 1738 he leased the properties in Sexau, Baden, belonging to the children of Martin Dölder (Dölter), a deceased "arch-drunkard and curser." Christian was later the leaseholder of the Zehnhof in Denzlingen, Baden, from George's Day (23 April) 1739 until his death, sometime between 1765 and 1775. His wife's name is unknown, but her surname was probably Rupp."John Hüppi, the author of the source cited here did not explain his tentative conclusion that Christian was “apparently” born in Baden-Durlach, a conclusion that seems unlikely for the following reasons. Although nothing about Christian’s ancestry is known with certainty, his parents almost certainly lived in Alsace, and it is likely that Christian was born there. If we assume that he was at least 20 years of age when he leased the Sexau farm in 1728, then he was born no later than 1708, four years prior to the royal decree of King Louis XIV that prompted the dispersion of Anabaptists from Alsace. However, it seems more likely that Christian was a few years older than 20 when he leased the farm at Sexau, and I entered “About 1705” as his date of birth on the family tree. If that is correct, Christian of Sexau probably was the son of a Zimmermann family in the valley at Sainte Marie-aux-Mines. Given the absence of birth entries for Amish children in the French Catholic parish records, chances are remote that we will ever discover the names of Christian’s parents, his place of birth, or the exact date of his birth.
17. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Christian Zimmermann, apparently born somewhere within the territories belonging to the Margrave of Baden-Durlach, Germany. From 11 November 1728 to 11 November 1738 he leased the properties in Sexau, Baden, belonging to the children of Martin Dölder (Dölter), a deceased "arch-drunkard and curser." Christian was later the leaseholder of the Zehnhof in Denzlingen, Baden, from George's Day (23 April) 1739 until his death,
sometime between 1765 and 1775. His wife's name is unknown, but her surname was probably Rupp."John Hüppi, the author of the source cited here did not explain his tentative conclusion that Christian was “apparently” born in Baden-Durlach, a conclusion that seems unlikely for the following reasons. Although nothing about Christian’s ancestry is known with certainty, his parents almost certainly lived in Alsace, and it is likely that Christian was born there. If we assume that he was at least 20 years of age when he leased the Sexau farm in 1728, then he was born no later than 1708, four years prior to the royal decree of King Louis XIV that prompted the dispersion of Anabaptists from Alsace. However, it seems more likely that Christian was a few years older than 20 when he leased the farm at Sexau, and I entered “About 1705” as his date of birth on the family tree. If that is correct, Christian of Sexau probably was the son of a Zimmermann family in the valley at Sainte Marie-aux-Mines. Given the absence of birth entries for Amish children in the French Catholic parish records, chances are remote that we will ever discover the names of Christian’s parents, his place of birth, or the exact date of his birth.
18. Mark Häberlein and Michaela Schmolz-Häberlein, Eighteenth Century Anabaptists in the Margravate of Baden and Neighboring Territories, Section: Anabaptist Settlement and Economic Activity, 2001."In March 1739, Christian Zimmermann leased for nine years the so-called Widdumsgut in Denzlingen, a hereditary fief of the collegiate chapter of St. Margarethen in Waldkirch administered by the community. Zimmermann had to deliver 60 Malter (9000 liters) of rye -- 30 to the collegiate chapter, 20 to the margrave's Burgvogtei, and 10 to the community -- and pay 135 gulden (silver coins) annually. When Zimmermann renewed the contract for the Widdumsgut in June 1757, Jakob Rupp, Anabaptist tenant of the Steckenhof estate, gave surety for him. Zimmermann rented the estate until his death in 1771. His widow then took over the lease contract with her son Andreas, for whom the Anabaptists Christian Leutweiler of Schupfholz and Jakob Zimmermann of the Hochburg estate gave surety in 1774."
19. Joseph Peter Staker, Amish Mennonites of Tazewell County, Illinois and Woodford County, Part Two, Zimmerman of Denzlingen, Michael Zimmerman, p. 122, 2013."Christian [Zimmermann] was born on French territory. He was a leaseholder at Sexau 1728-38, then took a lease at Denzlingen until his death."It is not certain that Christian Zimmerman was born in France, but it is highly likely that he was. See the Lauber source citation for a more complete explanation of that assertion.
20. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Christian Zimmermann, apparently born somewhere within the territories belonging to the Margrave of Baden-Durlach, Germany. From 11 November 1728 to 11 November 1738 he leased the properties in Sexau, Baden, belonging to the children of Martin Dölder (Dölter), a deceased "arch-drunkard and curser." Christian was later the leaseholder of the Zehnhof in Denzlingen, Baden, from George's Day (23 April) 1739 until his death, sometime between 1765 and 1775. His wife's name is unknown, but her surname was probably Rupp."John Hüppi, the author of the source cited here did not explain his tentative conclusion that Christian was “apparently” born in Baden-Durlach, a conclusion that seems unlikely for the following reasons. Although nothing about Christian’s ancestry is known with certainty, his parents almost certainly lived in Alsace, and it is likely that Christian was born there. If we assume that he was at least 20 years of age when he leased the Sexau farm in 1728, then he was born no later than 1708, four years prior to the royal decree of King Louis XIV that prompted the dispersion of Anabaptists from Alsace. However, it seems more likely that Christian was a few years older than 20 when he leased the farm at Sexau, and I entered “About 1705” as his date of birth on the family tree. If that is correct, Christian of Sexau probably was the son of a Zimmermann family in
the valley at Sainte Marie-aux-Mines. Given the absence of birth entries for Amish children in the French Catholic parish records, chances are remote that we will ever discover the names of Christian’s parents, his place of birth, or the exact date of his birth.
21. Mark Häberlein and Michaela Schmolz-Häberlein, Eighteenth Century Anabaptists in the Margravate of Baden and Neighboring Territories, Section: Anabaptist Settlement and Economic Activity, 2001."In March 1739, Christian Zimmermann leased for nine years the so-called Widdumsgut in Denzlingen, a hereditary fief of the collegiate chapter of St. Margarethen in Waldkirch administered by the community. Zimmermann had to deliver 60 Malter (9000 liters) of rye -- 30 to the collegiate chapter, 20 to the margrave's Burgvogtei, and 10 to the community -- and pay 135 gulden (silver coins) annually. When Zimmermann renewed the contract for the Widdumsgut in June 1757, Jakob Rupp, Anabaptist tenant of the Steckenhof estate, gave surety for him. Zimmermann rented the estate until his death in 1771. His widow then took over the lease contract with her son Andreas, for whom the Anabaptists Christian Leutweiler of Schupfholz and Jakob Zimmermann of the Hochburg estate gave surety in 1774."
22. Joseph Peter Staker, Amish Mennonites of Tazewell County, Illinois and Woodford County, Part Two, Zimmerman of Denzlingen, Michael Zimmerman, p. 122, 2013."Christian [Zimmermann] was born on French territory. He was a leaseholder at Sexau 1728-38, then took a lease at Denzlingen until his death."It is not certain that Christian Zimmerman was born in France, but it is highly likely that he was. See the Lauber source citation for a more complete explanation of that assertion.
23. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Christian Zimmermann, apparently born somewhere within the territories belonging to the Margrave of Baden-Durlach, Germany. From 11 November 1728 to 11 November 1738 he leased the properties in Sexau, Baden, belonging to the children of Martin Dölder (Dölter), a deceased "arch-drunkard and curser." Christian was later the leaseholder of the Zehnhof in Denzlingen, Baden, from George's Day (23 April) 1739 until his death, sometime between 1765 and 1775. His wife's name is unknown, but her surname was probably Rupp."John Hüppi, the author of the source cited here did not explain his tentative conclusion that Christian was “apparently” born in Baden-Durlach, a conclusion that seems unlikely for the following reasons. Although nothing about Christian’s ancestry is known with certainty, his parents almost certainly lived in Alsace, and it is likely that Christian was born there. If we assume that he was at least 20 years of age when he leased the Sexau farm in 1728, then he was born no later than 1708, four years prior to the royal decree of King Louis XIV that prompted the dispersion of Anabaptists from Alsace. However, it seems more likely that Christian was a few years older than 20 when he leased the farm at Sexau, and I entered “About 1705” as his date of birth on the family tree. If that is correct, Christian of Sexau probably was the son of a Zimmermann family in the valley at Sainte Marie-aux-Mines. Given the absence of birth entries for Amish children in the French Catholic parish records, chances are remote that we will ever discover the names of Christian’s parents, his place of birth, or the exact date of his birth.
24. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."[Christian Zimmermann's] wife's name is unknown, but her surname was probably Rupp.Children of Christian Zimmermann [and his wife, the unknown Rupp]: Anna Maria Zimmermann, born about 1738 [first known child] Jacob Zimmermann [a probable son], born 16 December 1735. [and several others, including Andreas, in period 1735 to about 1759]."
Based on the birthdates of her children, so far as they are known, Christian Zimmermann's wife, the unknown Rupp, may have been born about 1715.
25. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."[Christian Zimmermann's] wife's name is unknown, but her surname was probably Rupp.Children of Christian Zimmermann [and his wife, the unknown Rupp]: Anna Maria Zimmermann, born about 1738 [first known child] Jacob Zimmermann [a probable son], born 16 December 1735. [and several others, including Andreas, in period 1735 to about 1759]."Based on the birthdates of her children, so far as they are known, Christian Zimmermann's wife, the unknown Rupp, may have been born about 1715.
26. Mark Häberlein and Michaela Schmolz-Häberlein, Eighteenth Century Anabaptists in the Margravate of Baden and Neighboring Territories, Anabaptist Settlement and Economic Activity, 2001."[Christian] Zimmermann rented the [Widdumsgut/Zehnthof] estate until his death in 1771. His widow then took over the lease contract with her son Andreas . . . After his mother's death in 1780, Andreas Zimmermann continued the lease on his own."
Rupp
NAME:
Probabbly Rupp.
Note: the first Amish leaseholder at the Hochburg (1713) was Christian Rupp - (Rolf Brinkmann, Die Hochburg bei Emmendingen. 2007. Deutscher Kunstverlag GMBH Muenschen Berlin; ISBN 978-3-422-02098-6).
543.
Anna Maria Zimmerman
Died at age 17.
Larry Zimmerman Notes and sources:
27. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Children of Christian Zimmermann [and his wife, the unknown Rupp]: Andreas Zimmermann, who followed his father as leaseholder of the Zenthof in Denzlingen. Anna Maria Zimmermann, born about 1738; died 21 October 1755 in Denzlingen at the age of seventeen. Michael Zimmermann, buried in Denzlingen 20 February 1741, as a small child. Heinrich Zimmermann, born about 1759; died 29 October 1761 in Denzlingen, at the age of two. Probable further sons of Christian Zimmermann: Johannes (Hans) Zimmermann, resident in Denzlingen, later a leaseholder in Niederemmendingen. Jacob Zimmermann, born 16 December 1735; grew up in Denzlingen. Michael Zimmerman, in 1778 living in Denzlingen (likely born after the death of [Michael buried in 1741]). Possible daughter of Christian Zimmermann: Barbara (Barbe) Zimmermann, born about 1752; died 26 November 1819 in Kingersheim, Haut-Rhin, France. She was married to Abraham Lauber. They resided in Denzlingen starting about 1793."
28. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Children of Christian Zimmermann [and his wife, the unknown Rupp]: Andreas Zimmermann, who followed his father as leaseholder of the Zenthof in Denzlingen. Anna Maria Zimmermann, born about 1738; died 21 October 1755 in Denzlingen at the age of seventeen. Michael Zimmermann, buried in Denzlingen 20 February 1741, as a small child. Heinrich Zimmermann, born about 1759; died 29 October 1761 in Denzlingen, at the age of two. Probable further sons of Christian Zimmermann: Johannes (Hans) Zimmermann, resident in Denzlingen, later a leaseholder in Niederemmendingen. Jacob Zimmermann, born 16 December 1735; grew up in Denzlingen. Michael Zimmerman, in 1778 living in Denzlingen (likely born after the death of [Michael buried in 1741]). Possible daughter of Christian Zimmermann: Barbara (Barbe) Zimmermann, born about 1752; died 26 November 1819 in Kingersheim, Haut-Rhin, France. She was married to Abraham Lauber. They resided in Denzlingen starting about 1793."
29. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Children of Christian Zimmermann [and his wife, the unknown Rupp]: Andreas Zimmermann, who followed his father as leaseholder of the Zenthof in Denzlingen. Anna Maria Zimmermann, born about 1738; died 21
October 1755 in Denzlingen at the age of seventeen. Michael Zimmermann, buried in Denzlingen 20 February 1741, as a small child. Heinrich Zimmermann, born about 1759; died 29 October 1761 in Denzlingen, at the age of two. Probable further sons of Christian Zimmermann: Johannes (Hans) Zimmermann, resident in Denzlingen, later a leaseholder in Niederemmendingen. Jacob Zimmermann, born 16 December 1735; grew up in Denzlingen. Michael Zimmerman, in 1778 living in Denzlingen (likely born after the death of [Michael buried in 1741]). Possible daughter of Christian Zimmermann: Barbara (Barbe) Zimmermann, born about 1752; died 26 November 1819 in Kingersheim, Haut-Rhin, France. She was married to Abraham Lauber. They resided in Denzlingen starting about 1793."
544.
Michael Zimmerman
A small child when he died.
Larry Zimmerman notes and sources:
45. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Children of Christian Zimmermann [and his wife, the unknown Rupp]: Andreas Zimmermann, who followed his father as leaseholder of the Zenthof in Denzlingen. Anna Maria Zimmermann, born about 1738; died 21 October 1755 in Denzlingen at the age of seventeen. Michael Zimmermann, buried in Denzlingen 20 February 1741, as a small child. Heinrich Zimmermann, born about 1759; died 29 October 1761 in Denzlingen, at the age of two. Probable further sons of Christian Zimmermann: Johannes (Hans) Zimmermann, resident in Denzlingen, later a leaseholder in Niederemmendingen. Jacob Zimmermann, born 16 December 1735; grew up in Denzlingen. Michael Zimmerman, in 1778 living in Denzlingen (likely born after the death of [Michael buried in 1741]). Possible daughter of Christian Zimmermann: Barbara (Barbe) Zimmermann, born about 1752; died 26 November 1819 in Kingersheim, Haut-Rhin, France. She was married to Abraham Lauber. They resided in Denzlingen starting about 1793."
46. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey
of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Children of Christian Zimmermann [and his wife, the unknown Rupp]: Andreas Zimmermann, who followed his father as leaseholder of the Zenthof in Denzlingen. Anna Maria Zimmermann, born about 1738; died 21 October 1755 in Denzlingen at the age of seventeen. Michael Zimmermann, buried in Denzlingen 20 February 1741, as a small child. Heinrich Zimmermann, born about 1759; died 29 October 1761 in Denzlingen, at the age of two. Probable further sons of Christian Zimmermann: Johannes (Hans) Zimmermann, resident in Denzlingen, later a leaseholder in Niederemmendingen. Jacob Zimmermann, born 16 December 1735; grew up in Denzlingen. Michael Zimmerman, in 1778 living in Denzlingen (likely born after the death of [Michael buried in 1741]). Possible daughter of Christian Zimmermann: Barbara (Barbe) Zimmermann, born about 1752; died 26 November 1819 in Kingersheim, Haut-Rhin, France. She was married to Abraham Lauber. They resided in Denzlingen starting about 1793."
47. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Children of Christian Zimmermann [and his wife, the unknown Rupp]: Andreas Zimmermann, who followed his father as leaseholder of the Zenthof in Denzlingen. Anna Maria Zimmermann, born about 1738; died 21 October 1755 in Denzlingen at the age of seventeen. Michael Zimmermann, buried in Denzlingen 20 February 1741, as a small child. Heinrich Zimmermann, born about 1759; died 29 October 1761 in Denzlingen, at the age of two. Probable further sons of Christian Zimmermann: Johannes (Hans) Zimmermann, resident in Denzlingen, later a leaseholder in Niederemmendingen. Jacob Zimmermann, born 16 December 1735; grew up in Denzlingen. Michael Zimmerman, in 1778 living in Denzlingen (likely born after the death of [Michael buried in 1741]). Possible daughter of Christian Zimmermann: Barbara (Barbe) Zimmermann, born about 1752; died 26 November 1819 in Kingersheim, Haut-Rhin, France. She was married to Abraham Lauber. They resided in Denzlingen starting about 1793."
548.
Heinrich Zimmerman
Died young at age 2.
Larry Zimmerman Notes and sources:
40. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Children of Christian Zimmermann [and his wife, the unknown Rupp]: Andreas Zimmermann, who followed his father as leaseholder of the Zenthof in Denzlingen. Anna Maria Zimmermann, born about 1738; died 21 October 1755 in Denzlingen at the age of seventeen. Michael Zimmermann, buried in Denzlingen 20 February 1741, as a small child. Heinrich Zimmermann, born about 1759; died 29 October 1761 in Denzlingen, at the age of two. Probable further sons of Christian Zimmermann: Johannes (Hans) Zimmermann, resident in Denzlingen, later a leaseholder in Niederemmendingen. Jacob Zimmermann, born 16 December 1735; grew up in Denzlingen. Michael Zimmerman, in 1778 living in Denzlingen (likely born after the death of [Michael buried in 1741]). Possible daughter of Christian Zimmermann: Barbara (Barbe) Zimmermann, born about 1752; died 26 November 1819 in Kingersheim, Haut-Rhin, France. She was married to Abraham Lauber. They resided in Denzlingen starting about 1793."
41. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Children of Christian Zimmermann [and his wife, the unknown Rupp]: Andreas Zimmermann, who followed his father as leaseholder of the Zenthof in Denzlingen. Anna Maria Zimmermann, born about 1738; died 21 October 1755 in Denzlingen at the age of seventeen. Michael Zimmermann, buried in Denzlingen 20 February 1741, as a small child. Heinrich Zimmermann, born about 1759; died 29 October 1761 in Denzlingen, at the age of two. Probable further sons of Christian Zimmermann: Johannes (Hans) Zimmermann, resident in Denzlingen, later a leaseholder in Niederemmendingen. Jacob Zimmermann, born 16 December 1735; grew up in Denzlingen. Michael Zimmerman, in 1778 living in Denzlingen (likely born after the death of [Michael buried in 1741]). Possible daughter of Christian Zimmermann: Barbara (Barbe) Zimmermann, born about 1752; died 26 November 1819 in Kingersheim, Haut-Rhin, France. She was married to Abraham Lauber. They resided in Denzlingen starting about 1793."
42. Diane VanSkiver Gagel, Thomas R. Lauber, John Huppi, David J. Rempel Smucker, The Laubers: A Journey of Faith, Appendix A (Anabaptist Zimmermanns in Baden), p. 280, 2008."Children of Christian Zimmermann [and his wife, the unknown Rupp]: Andreas Zimmermann, who followed his father as leaseholder of the Zenthof in Denzlingen. Anna Maria Zimmermann, born about 1738; died 21 October 1755 in Denzlingen at the age of seventeen. Michael Zimmermann, buried in Denzlingen 20 February 1741, as a small child. Heinrich Zimmermann, born about 1759; died 29 October 1761 in Denzlingen, at the age of two. Probable further sons of Christian Zimmermann: Johannes (Hans) Zimmermann, resident in Denzlingen, later a leaseholder in Niederemmendingen. Jacob Zimmermann, born 16 December 1735; grew up in Denzlingen. Michael Zimmerman, in 1778 living in Denzlingen (likely born after the death of [Michael buried in 1741]). Possible daughter of Christian Zimmermann: Barbara (Barbe) Zimmermann, born about 1752; died 26 November 1819 in Kingersheim, Haut-Rhin, France. She was married to Abraham Lauber. They resided in Denzlingen starting about 1793."
281.
Hans Adam Zimmerman
NAME: Hans is John in English. So Hans John is John John. I just use John.
He wrote his will on 9 January 1780 and it was proved 2 February 1786.the executors were Peter Zimmerman and Henry Martin. He was taxed at Earl Township in 1750. He was a Mennonite.
CHILDREN: All children have Weber or was this one researcher just adding a mother's maiden name for reference? Not a good idea. I went through and removed the Weber as a middle name for all the children. JRC 2014
BOOK:
Zimmerman, Ezra and Maria, compilers. A Branch of the Zimmerman OFF SPRING of Glause Zimmerman in Europe and His Children Who Came from Europe: Records of 12 Generations, Records of Births of over 325 Years, over 12,000 Families. Second Edition., Printed in 1988 by Gordonville, Penna. Print Shop 17529.
SEE: Page 3, Family No. 1 and continued on Family No. 2 Second Generation.
NOTE: This book propagates the error of using the wife's maiden name as the middle name for each child. This is wrong and without documentation. Where all initials are the same in the family, they should be ignored.
NOTE: The index uses family numbers and not page numbers.
No sources or documentation provided. This is a family listing by family numbers and with minimal location information. It shows DOB & DOD when known.
Anna Weber
Daughter of Henry Weber and Magdalena "Maudlin" Kendig.
NOTE: If her mother's maiden name is Kendig, then the middle name should be removed. Without proof and it appears for ID purposes a researcher added mother's maiden names to the record. Unfortunately, this has caused all sort of problems.
560.
Esther Zimmerman
She was married to George Stauffer (1760-1832), A mENNONITE MINISTEROF eARL tOWNSHIP. THEY HAD NO ISSUE.
George Stauffer
George Stauffer was a Menn onite Minister of Earl Township. They hadno issue.
Peter Lantz
They moved to Virginia.
282.
Christian Zimmerman
Christian was married to Barbara Stauffer, probably the sister of Mathias Stauffer of Earl Township, Lancaster Co., PA. Her father was Christian Stauffer of Manheim, Germany who died at Salford Township, Montgomery Co., PA.
Christian was a Minnonite.
GRAVE: images
Christian Zimmerman
Birth: 3 Aug 1721 Switzerland
Death: 5 Dec 1787 (aged 66)
Burial: Lichty CemeteryLancaster County, Pennsylvania, USA
Memorial #: 38026696
Family Members
Spouse
Barbara Martin Zimmerman 1730-1789
Children
Elizabeth Martin Zimmerman Martin Unknown-1822
Esther Zimmerman Neuschwanger 1751-1827
Christian Zimmerman 1755-1826
Maria Zimmerman Scherckin 1760-1813
Catherine Zimmerman Weber 1762-1838
Magdalena Zimmerman Lichty 1765-1842
Created by: curlyseux (47137588)
Added: 7 Jun 2009
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/38026696/christian-zimmerman
Citation: Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 17 May 2019), memorial page for Christian Zimmerman (3 Aug 1721–5 Dec 1787), Find A Grave Memorial no. 38026696, citing Lichty Cemetery, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, USA ; Maintained by curlyseux (contributor 47137588) .
Barbara Stauffer
SAME PERSON?
GRAVE: images
Barbara Martin Zimmerman
Birth: 15 Feb 1730 Germany
Death: 18 Dec 1789 (aged 59) Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, USA
Burial: Lichty CemeteryLancaster County, Pennsylvania, USA
Memorial #: 38026763
Bio: Birth: in Biegelhof, Sinsheim, North Kaichgau, Germany
Family Members
Spouse
Christian Zimmerman 1721-1787
Children
Elizabeth Martin Zimmerman Martin Unknown-1822
Esther Zimmerman Neuschwanger 1751-1827
Christian Zimmerman 1755-1826
Maria Zimmerman Scherckin 1760-1813
Catherine Zimmerman Weber 1762-1838
Magdalena Zimmerman Lichty 1765-1842
Created by: curlyseux (47137588)
Added: 7 Jun 2009
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Carmen L. Pereida
The surname is Portuguese, although both her parents were born in Northern Mexico.
306.
Leonidas Lafayette Carpenter
CENSUS: 1850 US Census - - with father and step-mother.
Is he listed twice in this census? Same person? Probably not ...
Name: Leonidas Carpenter
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1850
Event Place: Blount county, Blount, Tennessee, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 3
Race: White
Race (Original):
Birth Year (Estimated): 1847
Birthplace: Tennessee
Household ID: 832
House Number: 832
Line Number: 21
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: M432
Affiliate Film Number: 871
GS Film Number: 24562
Digital Folder Number: 004191097
Image Number: 00123
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Elisha Murray M 32 Tennessee
Eliza Carpenter F 30 Tennessee ---- Aunt?
Nancy Carpenter F 9 Tennessee
Saml Carpenter M 7 Tennessee
John Carpenter M 6 Tennessee
Leonidas Carpenter M 3 Tennessee
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1850," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCD7-GBB : accessed 3 May 2015), Leonidas Carpenter in household of Elisha Murray, Blount county, Blount, Tennessee, United States; citing family 832, NARA microfilm publication M432 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
CENSUS: 1860 US Census - with father and step mother
CENSUS: 1870 US Census
Name: Leonidas L Carpenter
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1870
Event Place: Tennessee, United States ---- Shelbyville, Bedford, Tennessee, USA
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Race: White
Race (Original): W
Birth Year (Estimated): 1845-1846
Birthplace: Tennessee
Page Number: 1
Household ID: 7
Line Number: 36
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: M593
GS Film number: 000553013
Digital Folder Number: 004275996
Image Number: 00309
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Caroline J Carpenter F 42 Tennessee <------- Who is this? Aunt, Step-mother or ?
Leonidas L Carpenter M 24 Tennessee <--------- match
John W S Carpenter M 21 Tennessee - brother
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1870," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MD8F-WCM : accessed 3 May 2015), Leonidas L Carpenter in household of Caroline J Carpenter, Tennessee, United States; citing p. 1, family 7, NARA microfilm publication M593 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 553,013.
MARRIAGE: 1870
Name: Leonidas L Carpenter
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 01 Oct 1870
Event Place: Bedford, Tennessee, United States
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Father's Name:
Father's Titles and Terms:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Name: Mary F Warner
Spouse's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Age:
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated):
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Father's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Titles and Terms:
Reference ID:
GS Film number: 1572747
Digital Folder Number: 004485933
Image Number: 03125
Citing this Record:
"Tennessee, County Marriages, 1790-1950," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KHDG-L11 : accessed 3 May 2015), Leonidas L Carpenter and Mary F Warner, 01 Oct 1870; citing Bedford, Tennessee, United States, county courthouses, Tennessee; FHL microfilm 1,572,747.
SEE ALSO:
GS Film number: 1572747
Digital Folder Number: 004485933
Image Number: 03039
Citing this Record:
"Tennessee, County Marriages, 1790-1950," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KHDG-1JL : accessed 3 May 2015), Leonadas L Carpenter and Mary F Worner, 01 Oct 1870; citing Bedford, Tennessee, United States, county courthouses, Tennessee; FHL microfilm 1,572,747.
CENSUS: 1880 US Census
Name: Lafayette Carpenter
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1880
Event Place: District 6, Marshall, Tennessee, United States
District: 137
Gender: Male
Age: 34
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): W
Occupation: Clerk In Store
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Self
Birth Year (Estimated): 1846
Birthplace: Tennessee, United States
Father's Birthplace: Tennessee, United States
Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee, United States
Sheet Number and Letter: 369B
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: T9
Affiliate Film Number: 1269
GS Film Number: 1255269
Digital Folder Number: 004244649
Image Number: 00341
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Lafayette Carpenter Self M 34 Tennessee, United States
Mary A Carpenter Wife F 27 Tennessee, United States
Nancy A Carpenter Daughter F 8 Tennessee, United States
Lena W Carpenter Daughter F 6 Tennessee, United States
Warner L Carpenter Son M 4 Tennessee, United States
Sarah Tenison Other F 41 Tennessee, United States
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1880," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MD7T-SHB : accessed 2 May 2015), Lafayette Carpenter, District 6, Marshall, Tennessee, United States; citing enumeration district 137, sheet 369B, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 1269; FHL microfilm 1,255,269.
CENSUS: 1890 US Census - burned
CENSUS: 1900 US Census
Name: S L Carpenter ----> L. L. on census image
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1900
Event Place: Shellyville town, Bedford, Tennessee, United States
District: 10
Gender: Male
Age: 54
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): W
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Number of Living Children:
Years Married: 13
Birth Date: Jan 1846
Birthplace: Tennessee
Marriage Year (Estimated): 1887
Immigration Year:
Father's Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother of how many children:
Sheet Number and Letter: 9B
Household ID: 201
Line Number: 87
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: T623
GS Film Number: 1241558
Digital Folder Number: 004118945
Image Number: 00238
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
S L Carpenter Head M 54 Tennessee
Fennie Carpenter Wife F 44 Tennessee
Sarah Carpenter Daughter F 8 Tennessee
Sybl Carpenter Daughter F 5 Tennessee
Warner L Carpenter Son M 24 Tennessee
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1900," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MSZ5-KJL : accessed 2 May 2015), S L Carpenter, Shellyville town, Bedford, Tennessee, United States; citing sheet 9B, family 201, NARA microfilm publication T623 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 1,241,558.
CENSUS: 1910 US Census
Name: Laffatte L Carpenter
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1910
Event Place: Shelbyville, Bedford, Tennessee, United States
District: 11
Gender: Male
Age: 64
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1846
Birthplace: Tennessee
Immigration Year:
Father's Birthplace: United States
Mother's Birthplace: United States
Sheet Number and Letter: 9A
Household ID: 197
Line Number:
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: M1283
GS Film number: 1375503
Digital Folder Number: 004449669
Image Number: 00653
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Laffatte L Carpenter Head M 64 Tennessee
Ternice Carpenter Wife F 54 Tennessee
Fred Williams Son-in-law M 18 Tennessee
Sarrah Williams Daughter F 18 Tennessee
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1910," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MGX2-ZHC : accessed 3 May 2015), Laffatte L Carpenter, Shelbyville, Bedford, Tennessee, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 11, sheet 9A, family 197, NARA microfilm publication T624 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 1,375,503.
DEATH: See image: RIN 72571 Leonidas Carpenter DEATH.jpg
Name: Leonidas Lafayette Carpenter
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 14 Jun 1915
Event Place: Shelbyville, Bedford, Tennessee
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Age: 69
Birth Year (Estimated):
Birth Date: 18 Feb 1846
Birthplace: Tennessee
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name: Joseph Carpenter
Father's Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother's Name: Nannie Stegall
Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee
Occupation: Hardware Salesman
Address:
Residence Place:
Cemetery: Willow Mt.
Burial Place:
Burial Date: 16 Jun 1915
Informant's Name:
Additional Relatives:
Digital Folder Number: 004183029
Image Number: 00411
GS Film number: 1299633
Reference ID: v 1 cn 399
Citing this Record:
"Tennessee, Death Records, 1914-1955," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NS3S-94D : accessed 3 May 2015), Leonidas Lafayette Carpenter, 14 Jun 1915; citing Willow Mt. Cemetery, Shelbyville, Bedford, Tennessee, v 1 cn 399, State Library and Archives, Nashville; FHL microfilm 1,299,633.
Mary Frances Warner
NAME:
Mary A. and Mary F. and Mary Frances given.
Ternice S."Tennie"
CENSUS: 1900 US Census - EXTRACT
Name: Fennie Carpenter
Number of Living Children: 2
Years Married: 13
Birth Date: May 1856
Birthplace: Tennessee
Marriage Year (Estimated): 1887
Immigration Year:
Father's Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother of how many children: 3
GRAVE:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=95516208
Tennie S. Carpenter
Birth: Oct. 21, 1855
Death: Aug. 28, 1942
Burial:
Willow Mount Cemetery
Shelbyville
Bedford County
Tennessee, USA
Created by: Brian Roebuck
Record added: Aug 17, 2012
Find A Grave Memorial# 95516208
579.
Effie Lee Carpenter
Died in infancy. Or did she die as a toddler?
580.
Sybl Carpenter
Died in infancy.
581.
Bell Carpenter
PARENT: Is she the daughter of Leonidas Lafayette Carpenter?
DEATH:
Name: Bell Wade
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 07 Mar 1943
Event Place: Memphis, Shelby Co, Tennessee
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Widowed
Race: White
Age: 74
Birth Year (Estimated):
Birth Date: 28 May 1868
Birthplace: Tennessee
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name: Lafayette Carpenter
Father's Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace:
Occupation: Domestic
Address: 598 Berclair
Residence Place: Memphis, Shelby Co, Tennessee
Cemetery: Memorial Park Cemetery
Burial Place: Memphis, Tennessee
Burial Date: 09 Mar 1943
Informant's Name:
Additional Relatives: X
Digital Folder Number: 004184875
Image Number: 01042
GS Film number: 2137333
Reference ID: cn 5940
Citing this Record:
"Tennessee, Death Records, 1914-1955," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NSXQ-R4S : accessed 3 May 2015), Bell Wade, 07 Mar 1943; citing Memorial Park Cemetery Cemetery, Memphis, Shelby Co, Tennessee, cn 5940, State Library and Archives, Nashville; FHL microfilm 2,137,333.
307.
John Winfield Scott Carpenter
BIRTH:
In the census records his birth is always different from his brother at about 3 years.
Is the birth date given - same as brother - in error? Likely.
Need correct birth dates!
309.
Robert Peter Carpenter
In 1885 he was engaged in the banking business, in addition he
is now in the natural gas business.2 SOUR S203
3 TEXT pg 469
Mary W. Elliott
The Elliots trace their ancestry to the Elliots of Beaver,,PA
and to Sir Gilbert Elliot of Minto,, Scotland. Elizabeth is of
the Wilson's of Bellefont,,PA, and is a sister-in-law of
ex-Governor Curtin of PA. They moved from Oswego to
Neodesha in Wilson, Kansas. 2 SOUR S203
3 TEXT pg 469
310.
Charles Thomas Carpenter
After graduation he went to Oswego,,KS, thence to Coffeyville, Montgomery , KS in 1886.
All of his children and his spouse were alive in 1912.
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http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/archives/1912/c3/carpenter_charles_t.html">Click here: Charles T. Carpenter - KS-Cyclopedia - 1912
Transcribed from volume III, part 1 of Kansas: a cyclopedia of state history,
embracing events, institutions, industries, counties, cities, towns,
prominent persons, etc. ... / with a supplementary volume devoted to selected personal
history and reminiscence. Standard Pub. Co. Chicago : 1912. 3 v. in 4. :
front., ill., ports.; 28 cm. Vols. I-II edited by Frank W. Blackmar. Transcribed
December 2002 by Carolyn Ward. This volume is identified at the Kansas State
Historical Society as microfilm LM195. It is a two-part volume 3.
Charles T. Carpenter, of Coffeyville, Kan., is the son of Samuel and Sarah (Montgomery)
Carpenter, the former of whom was a native of Bedford county, Tennessee, born in
1827, and the latter was born in Charleston, S. C., a daughter of Thomas
Montgomery, who was a large slave owner and well-to-do planter. He left Charleston
when a young man and located at Palmetto, Tenn. The Montgomerys were of
Scotch-Irish extraction and came to America in the Eighteenth century. The first
American immigrant of the Carpenter family came to American from London, England,
in 1630, and located at Rehoboth, in Bristol county, Massachusetts. His name
was William Carpenter, and upon his migration to America he was accompanied by
his three sons, from whom over 2,000 of the family name now in America have
descended. Samuel Carpenter, the father of Charles T., came to Kansas in 1874
and located at Oswego, where he engaged in the mercantile business and resided
until his death, which occurred in 1903, the last fifteen years of his life
being spent in retirement. His father, Peter Carpenter, was a native of North
Carolina and by occupation was a farmer. He was a Union man in sentiment and was
compelled to leave the South on account of his political views. He went to
Iowa, in which state he died some time during the Civil war. Of the union of
Samuel and Sarah (Montgomery) Carpenter there were born six children—three sons
and three daughters—and they are all living at this writing, Charles T. being
the third child and second son in the order of birth. Charles T. Carpenter was
born at Palmetto, Bedford county, Tennessee, Dec. 9, 1858. He received his
education in the schools of his native town, in the old academy at Palmetto, and
at Indiana University, where he graduated in 1876. He then came to Oswego,
Kan., and was with his father in the mercantile business for six years, at the end
of which period he engaged in the banking business at Oswego. He began his
career in this endeavor as a bookkeeper, but later became cashier of the C. M.
London Bank, in which position he remained until 1886, when he removed to
Coffeyville and became one of the organizers of the London National Bank, of which
he was elected vice-president, a position he has held up to the present time.
At the beginning this institution was organized as a private bank, but it
later became a state bank, and in 1903 was reorganized under the national banking
laws. There has been no change in the personnel of the officers, however, as
at the time of the original organization C. M. Condon was elected president,
Mr. Carpenter vice-president, and Charles M. Ball cashier, and they have
continued incumbents of the respective positions. The bank has a capital stock of
$100,000, with a surplus of $50,000. This bank and the First National Bank of
Coffeyville the Dalton bandits undertook to rob on Oct. 5, 1892. The attempt was
unsuccessful, but four citizens and four of the bandits were killed. Three
bandits undertook to rob the London bank, and all of them were killed. Mr.
Carpenter was on duty in the bank at the time. In addition to his interest in this
concern Mr. Carpenter has other investments that demand a portion of his
attention, among which is the largest insurance agency in the county. Mr. Carpenter
is a Republican. He has never had any aspiration for political honors,
preferring to devote his entire time and attention to his business, in which he
occupies a prominent and well deserved position. However, he has taken considerable
interest in the prohibition movement in Kansas. He takes quite an interest in
fraternal societies, is a Royal Arch Mason, and has membership in other
fraternal and insurance organizations. He has been a resident of Kansas for
thirty-five years, and, as will be seen by the foregoing, has been prominently
identified with its interests. In 1892 he was married to Miss Temple West, daughter
of Joshua West, of Rockford, Ind., and of this union have been born five sons
and two daughters—Walter, Samuel, Charles, Hugh, Marjorie, William, and Sarah.
Pages 252-253 from volume III, part 1 of Kansas: a cyclopedia of state
history, embracing events, institutions, industries, counties, cities, towns,
prominent persons, etc. ... / with a supplementary volume devoted to selected
personal history and reminiscence. Standard Pub. Co. Chicago : 1912. 3 v. in 4. :
front., ill., ports.; 28 cm. Vols. I-II edited by Frank W. Blackmar. Transcribed
December 2002 by Carolyn Ward. This volume is identified at the Kansas State
Historical Society as microfilm LM195. It is a two-part volume 3.
See also:
http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/archives/1912/c3/carpenter_charles_t.html
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/scripts/data/database.cgi?file=Data&report=SingleArticle&ArticleID=0022294
Carpenter, Charles T.
Released 26 March 2004
A Standard History of Kansas and Kansans
Charles T. Carpenter is one of the pioneer bankers of Coffcyville, and for thirty years has been closely identified with what is now known as the Condon National Bank, being vice president of that institution. Mrs. Temple W. Carpenter, his wife, is one of the prominent women of Southern Kansas, has been a leader in religious, social and public affairs, and is president of the Carnegie Library of Coffeyville, and is the only woman who has ever been honored with a place on the school board of that city.
The Carpenter family is a very old one in America, having been transplanted from England to Rehoboth, Massachusetts, as early as 1632. From there its descendants moved to Pennsylvania, and into North Carolina and Kentucky. Mr. Carpenter has ancestors who fought in the Revolution.
Charles T. Carpenter was born at Palmetto, Tennessee, December 9, 1858, and belongs to a substantial stock of people who were extensive planters in early Tennessee, but were stanchly aligned with the Union cause and in the difficulties that grew out of the Civil war moved north of the Ohio River. Peter Carpenter, grandfather of the Coffeyville banker, was born in North Carolina in 1790. He was reared and married in his native state, became a planter, and moved his family to Tennessee, establishing a homestead on an eminence long known as Carpenter Hill. He was a stanch whig, and on account of his pronounced advocacy of the Union cause he had to refugee from Tennessee during the war, and lived at Bloomfield, Iowa, where he died in 1865. Peter Carpenter married Margaret Ramsey, who was born in 1805, and died at the old estate at Carpenter Hill in Tennessee in 1845. She was of Scotch-Irish descent and her ancestors had come to America at the beginning of the nineteenth century.
Samuel Carpenter, father of Charles T., was born at Knob Creek, North Carolina, in 1826, and was reared and educated near Palmetto, Tennessee. He became a merchant, and in 1874 moved out to Kansas and locating at Oswego established one of the early general mercantile stores there. He retired from business in 1887 and died at Oswego in 1901. He was a republican, and was practically a lifelong member of the Presbyterian Church, serving as a member for forty years. Samuel Carpenter married Sarah Montgomery, who was born in Tennessee in 1831 and died in Oswego, Kansas, in 1907. Their children were; Laura C., wife of Dr. W. H. Belt, a physician and surgeon at Oswego, Kansas. Robert P., in the real estate and insurance business at Oklahoma City; Charles T.; Mary, wife of L. J. Van Alstyne, who is connected with the Carpenter & Van Alstyne mercantile establishment at Oswego, Kansas; Samuel, Jr., also a member of the firm of Carpenter & Van Alstyne at Oswego; Margaret, a teacher in the Central High School of Kansas City, Missouri.
Charles T. Carpenter had his first schooling in a private institution at Palmetto, Tennessee. After his parents moved to Kansas he continued his education in the State University at Bloomington, Indiana, where he was graduated A. B. in 1876. He then came out to Kansas to join his parents at Oswego, and spent five years in the employ of his father. While at Oswego he became connected with his real work in life, and served two years as cashier of the Condon Bank there. In 1886 he came to Coffeyville as one of the partners in the Condon Bank, which was then a private institution and had been established at Coffeyville that year. The bank took out a state charter in 1898, and since 1903 had been the Condon National Bank. Its present officers are: C. M. Ball, president; Charles T. Carpenter, vice president; C. A. Walker, cashier; and F. S. Mitchell, assistant cashier. This is one of the old and reliable banks of Southern Kansas, and had a capital of $100,000 and surplus and profits of $50,000. In September, 1916, the bank completed its handsome new home, a two-story terra cotta building at 814 Walnut Street in Coffeyville.
Mr. Carpenter is also senior partner in the Charles T. Carpenter Insurance Agency, the largest agency of the kind in Montgomery County, and handling life, fire, hail, cyclone, accident, plate glass, and practically every line of insurance. For twelve years Mr. Carpenter served as president of the Coffeyville Board of Education and is still a member of the board. He is trustee of the Montgomery County High School at Independence. Politically he is independent, is a member of the Presbyterian Church, which he had served as trustee and elder, and had made himself an influential factor in everything that concerns the better life and progress of his home city.
In 1892 at Bockport, Indiana, Charles T. Carpenter and Miss Temple West were united in marriage. Mrs. Carpenter was born in Pike County, Indiana. Her ancestors, the Wests, came from England to Virginia in colonial times. Her grandfather, Hugh West, a native of Virginia, saw active service in the Mexican war, and spent his life as a farmer in Kentucky and Ohio. He died in Clermont County, Ohio. He was a whig in politics. Hugh West married Rosanna Boyd, who was born in South Carolina and died in Indiana about 1867.
J. D. West, father of Mrs. Carpenter, was born in Clermont County, Ohio, in 1828, grew up there, but when quite young went to Pike County, Indiana, where he was a successful farmer and stockman, and where he died in 1900. He was a republican. In 1861 he enlisted with an Indiana regiment and served all through the war, first under the command of Grant and later under Sherman. In one battle he was taken prisoner, and was confined at Andersonville until exchanged. J. D. West married Sophronia Brock, who was born in Virginia in 1834 and died in Pike County, Indiana, in 1870. Their children were: Joshua, who was a farmer and died in Pike County, Indiana; Mrs. Carpenter; Leander, who is employed in an elevator at Mount Carmel, Illinois; Eva, who died at Rockport, Indiana, in 1875, unmarried.
Mrs. Carpenter received her early education in Rockport, Indiana, graduating from the high school there in 1882, and in the same year entering the State University at Bloomington, where she completed the course and received the degree Ph. B. in 1886. She is a member of the college sorority, Kappa Alpha Theta. For several years before her marriage Mrs. Carpenter taught at Rockport and also at Minneapolis, Minnesota. In addition to the conscientious care of her home and family, Mrs. Carpenter had accomplished a great deal in the sphere of woman's activities. Since early girlhood she had been a worker in the Presbyterian Church. For a number of years she had served as treasurer of Chapter No. 112 of the Eastern Star at Coffeyville. Mrs. Carpenter is one of the charter members of the Searchlight Club, the original woman's club of Coffeyville, and was its president for a long time. She had been closely associated with local affairs, particularly those affecting the educational progress of the city, and is president of the Carnegie Library Board. Reference had already been made to the fact that she is the only woman who ever served on the board of education, and she filled that important post in local affairs four years.
To the marriage of Mr. and Mrs. Carpenter were born seven children: Walter Thomas is a director and bookkeeper in the Condon National Bank, being a graduate of the Coffeyville High School, as are all the other older children; Samuel is in his father's insurance office; Charles T. is also learning the insurance business under his father's direction; Hugh is now in the junior class of the Kansas University at Lawrence; Margery, after finishing the high school course in 1916, entered Oswego College for Women; William is a freshman in the Coffeyville High School; Sarah is in the seventh grade of the public schools.
Source: A Standard History of Kansas and Kansans
591.
Walter Carpenter
SOCIAL SECURITY DEATH INDEX:
http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi
Name Birth Death Last Residence Last Benefit SSN Issued
WALTER CARPENTER 30 Aug 1893 Sep 1979 67337 (Coffeyville, Montgomery, KS) (none specified) 511-46-0138 Kansas
592.
Samuel Carpenter
SOCIAL SECURITY DEATH INDEX:
http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi
Name Birth Death Last Residence Last Benefit SSN Issued
SAMUEL CARPENTER 04 Jul 1894 Oct 1970 67337 (Coffeyville, Montgomery, KS) (none specified) 510-32-0497 Kansas
593.
Charles Theodore Carpenter
SOCIAL SECURITY DEATH INDEX:
http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi
Many possibilities ...
Issued in Kansas ...
Name Birth Death Last Residence Last Benefit SSN Issued
CHARLES CARPENTER 22 Apr 1902 May 1977 66783 (Yates Center, Woodson, KS) (none specified) 509-40-0323 Kansas
CHARLES CARPENTER 09 Mar 1894 Mar 1971 66102 (Kansas City, Wyandotte, KS) (none specified) 510-07-3247 Kansas
CHARLES E CARPENTER 09 Jan 1928 22 Nov 1998 (P) (72) (none specified) 510-24-6844 Kansas
CHARLES CARPENTER 19 Feb 1913 Mar 1982 65737 (Reeds Spring, Stone, MO) 65737 (Reeds Spring, Stone, MO) 511-01-4320 Kansas
CHARLES CARPENTER 28 Dec 1901 Nov 1957 (not specified) (none specified) 511-01-5365 Kansas
CHARLES CARPENTER 01 May 1887 Jun 1968 66002 (Atchison, Atchison, KS) (none specified) 512-05-1017 Kansas
CHARLES E CARPENTER 07 Feb 1917 29 Jan 1990 99114 (Colville, Stevens, WA) 99114 (Colville, Stevens, WA) 512-09-6759 Kansas
CHARLES E CARPENTER 24 Feb 1911 18 Sep 1994 67217 (Wichita, Sedgwick, KS) (none specified) 514-03-6801 Kansas
CHARLES CARPENTER 04 Jul 1883 Aug 1963 (Kansas) (none specified) 515-03-0108 Kansas
CHARLES A CARPENTER 07 Nov 1929 22 Dec 1994 64083 (Raymore, Cass, MO) (none specified) 515-22-8001 Kansas
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Name Birth Death Last Residence Last Benefit SSN Issued
CHARLES T CARPENTER 02 Jan 1912 29 Jan 1999 (P) (72) (none specified) 166-32-9058 Pennsylvania SS-5
CHARLES T CARPENTER 12 Mar 1922 08 Mar 2000 (V) 28133 (Peachland, Anson, NC) (none specified) 242-26-7327 North Carolina
CHARLES T CARPENTER 13 Jun 1953 13 Mar 1993 74108 (Tulsa, Tulsa, OK) (none specified) 448-56-5348 Oklahoma
CHARLES T CARPENTER 21 Feb 1911 16 Dec 1995 30311 (Atlanta, Fulton, GA) (none specified) 555-16-6501 California
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10 possibles born in 1895...
14 possibles born in 1896...
12 possibles born in 1897.
596.
William Carpenter
SOCIAL SECURITY DEATH INDEX:
http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi
Many Many possibilities ...
Issued in Kansas ... cloesest possibilities ...
Name Birth Death Last Residence Last Benefit SSN Issued
WILLIAM CARPENTER 13 Jun 1908 Sep 1986 92330 (California) (none specified) 511-05-9055 Kansas
WILLIAM R CARPENTER 22 Jan 1903 07 Apr 1997 (V) 65301 (Sedalia, Pettis, MO) (none specified) 511-12-0008 Kansas
WILLIAM CARPENTER 12 Apr 1900 Nov 1983 67052 (Goddard, Sedgwick, KS) (none specified) 512-18-4757 Kansas
WILLIAM J CARPENTER 05 Apr 1907 08 May 1995 89432 (Sparks, Washoe, NV) (none specified) 514-26-1370 Kansas
L. J. van Alstine
Resided in Oswego,,KS