Descendants of Group 5 - Zimmermans / Carpenters
Notes
482.
Johannes "John" Zimmerman
From: "Terry Carpenter"
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 8:18 AM
Neither of the attachments is of the Carpenters A'Plenty book -- both are of the Germanna VA line.
There is a small book on the Germanna line, actually an issue of the Germanna Memorial Foundation's journal
in 1968, that covers the early line well. Terry Lee Carpenter
QUESTION: Group 5 or Group 9?
BAPTISM:
Name: Johannes Zimmermann [John Zimmermann]
Event Type: Taufe (Baptism)
Birth Date: 11. Apr 1711 (11 Apr 1711)
Baptism Date: 12. Apr 1711 (12 Apr 1711)
Baptism Place: Sulzfeld, Preußen, Baden
Father: Christoph Zimmermann
Mother: Dorothea Zimmermann
Parish as it Appears: Sulzfeld
Page number: 98
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Baden and Hesse Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1502-1985 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
Original data:
Mikrofilm Sammlung. Familysearch.org
Originale: Lutherische Kirchenbücher, 1502-1985.
BOOK: EXTRACT
Clasping Hands With Generations Past - by Emma Rouse Lloyd, G929.2 R 863L pages 4, 48-57. Located at the Indianapolis, Indiana Library. Published in 1932. Includes Carpenters and Zimmermans.
SEE ALSO: FamilySearch.org Books
Clasping hands with generations past MCMXXXII (1932)
Title No 8689
Creator Lloyd, Emma Rouse, b. 1858
Extent 228 p.
Language English
Access Level Public
NOTE:
Book data OCRed and cleanup efforts were made, some transition errors may remain. Please compare to original work. JRC 29 Aug 2021
COMMENT:
This report is of data extraction citing related pages for Carpenters and Zimmermans in the above book.
- The Zimmerman Family section runs from book page 41 (Digital page 52 - aka +11) to page 57. Please take this in account with the following book index.
- The Allied Families section runs from book page 153 to 156 regarding Zimmermans.
- The Carpenter Family section runs from book page 158 to 161.
NOTE:
See father's notes for more details.
THE FOLLOWING IS FROM THE ABOVE IN RELATION TO THIS JOHANNES "JOHN" ZIMMERMAN.
Page 47 (Digital page 58)
...
Children:
a John, m. Ursuly or Ursula
Page 46 (Digital page 57)
...
a JOHN ZIMMERMAN (Christopher) a Revolutionary patriot, was born in Germany. He took out his naturalization papers in Virginia in 1742.
In 1748 he patented land which he later deeded to his children as deeds of gift as follows:
Oct. 18, 1759, 200 acres-son John Zimmerman, Jr. (C-226)
Sept. 16, 1776, 150 acres-dau. Mary Zimmerman (H-243)
Sept. 16, 1776, 150 acres-son Christopher Zimmerman (H-242)
Sept. 16, 1776, 156 acres-dau. Margaret Zimmerman (H-239)
Sept. 16, 1776, 300 acres-dau. Rosanna Zimmerman (H-245)
Sept. 16, 1776, 200 acres-dau. Dorothy Tanner and Jacob Tanner her husband (H-240)
Sept. 16, 1776, 200 acres-dau. Elizabeth Holtzclaw & Jacob Holtzclaw her husband
John Zimmerman’s wife was Ursuly or Ursula -.
----- no footnotes ----
Page 47 (Digital page 58)
Children:
aa John II
ab Margaret tn. Jan. 26, 1787, Jacob Lipp
ac Christopher III
ad Mary
ae Rosanna 111.Oct. 16, 1788, Moses Samueal
af Dorothy, m. Iacola Tanner
ag Elizabeth, m. Jacola Holtzclaw
John Zimmerman died about 1787, as in that year he communed
in the church for the last time. There is a record that a deed bearing
his name was made in 1799 but "on careful investigation, it is
certain that this was the settlement of his estate several years after his
death." (Yowell.) One tract of land was not given to his children
which, after his death, went to his daughter Mary, who evidently never
married. “Oct. 19, 1824, Jacob Lipp made agreement with Mary Zimmerman,
of which the following is an abstract; Witnesseth, That the
said Zimmerman gave to said Lipp 3 negroes to maintain her during
life, and the said Lipp hath sold and parted with said negroes 8: for
the maintenance of said Zimmerman for her support during life sells
her two tracts of land. One I now live on which was conveyed to my
wife by John Zimmerman, deed dated Sep. 16, 1776, for 150 acres and
recorded in Culpepper Co., except 33 acres sold to Mr. Huffman, the
other tract purchased of William Batten, 38 acres. (Madison Co. Deed
Book 8-321)”
Extracted from papers sent by Mrs. J. S. Bellamy, Knoxville, Iowa.
GRAVE: no image
Johann “"John"” Zimmerman Sr.
Birth: 11 Apr 1711 Baden-Württemberg, Germany
Death: 1796 (aged 84–85) Madison County, Virginia, USA <---- 1796 was a Probate cite!
Burial: Hebron Lutheran Church Cemetery, Madison, Madison County, Virginia, USA
Memorial #: 102864735
Bio:
Baptised on Ap.12,1711 Sulzfield, Germany
Mother:
Dorothy Rottle Zimmerman
b.1687 Horndorff, Germany
d.Jan.16,1714 Sulzfeld,Germany
Married abt: 1736 Orange,Va.
Had seven children:
1. John (1737-1819) Married: Susanna ?
2. Dorothy (1742-) Married Jacob Tanner
Jacob died in 1794 and Dorothy was
granted his pension.
Jacob Tanners' parents were Christopher
and Elizabeth Ayler Tanner
3.Christopher (1745-1832),He died in
Boone,Ky. Married: 1766 Culpeper,Va
Maria Magdelena Tanner (1747-1824)Boone,Ky.
4. Elizabeth (1747-1840) Married:
Joseph Jacob Holtzcaw, She was his second
wife and only had one child.
5. Mary (1752-?)
6. Margaret (1755-?)
Married: Jan.26,1789 Culpeper,Va. To
Jacob Lipp
7. Rosanna (1757-?)
Married: Oct.16,1788 Culpeper,Va.
Moses Samuel
Of these seven children,
four born in Orange,Va., three Culpeper,Va.
Family Members
Parents
Johann Christopher Zimmerman 1692-1748
Dorothea Rottle Zimmerman 1687-1714
Spouse
Ursula Blankenbaker Zimmerman 1718-1787
Half Siblings
Barbara Zimmerman Edwards 1718-1786
Christopher Zimmerman 1719-1781
Children
John Zimmerman 1737-1819
Created by: Ninnette Zeigler (47299405)
Added: 31 Dec 2012
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/102864735/johann-zimmerman
Citation: Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/102864735/johann-zimmerman : accessed 29 August 2021), memorial page for Johann “"John"” Zimmerman Sr. (11 Apr 1711–1796), Find a Grave Memorial ID 102864735, citing Hebron Lutheran Church Cemetery, Madison, Madison County, Virginia, USA ; Maintained by Ninnette Zeigler (contributor 47299405) .
488.
Barbara Zimmerman
GRAVE:
Barbara “Barbary” Zimmerman Edwards
Birth: 1718 Spotsylvania County, Virginia, USA
Death: 1786 (aged 67–68) Culpeper County, Virginia, USA
Burial: Hebron Lutheran Church Cemetery, Madison, Madison County, Virginia, USA
Memorial #: 75153536
Bio: Parents:
Johann Christopher Zimmerman (1692-1749)
Anna Elizabeth Albrecht Zimmerman (1687-1757)
1st. marriage: Aug.23,1737 Orange Co.,Va.
to John Leonard Zeigler
aka: Johann Leonardt Zeigler
2nd marriage to John Edwards d.1783
No children to this marriage.
Barbara's: Will dated: Ap.05,1786
Probated: June 19,1786
She mentions her daughter, Nancy
Ann Zeigler Rice and grandson, James
Barbary Zeigler.
Deeded 200 acres of land that her father
gave her to her daughter Elizabeth.
Aug.23,1737: Christopher Zimmerman received
ordinary license allowing him to keep
ordinary at his home.
Aug.24,1737 Orange Co.,Va.
Christopher Zimmermam deeded as a gift,
200 acres of land to Barbara Zeigler
Family Members
Parents
Johann Christopher Zimmerman 1692-1748
Anna Elisabetha Albrecht Zimmerman 1687-1757
Spouse
Johann Leonhardt Zeigler 1712-1757
Siblings
Christopher Zimmerman 1719-1781
Half Siblings
Johann Zimmerman 1711-1796
Children
Christopher Zeigler 1738-1818
Leonard Zeigler 1740-1772
Susannah Ziegler Tillery 1746-1839
Created by: Ninnette Zeigler (47299405)
Added: 19 Aug 2011
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/75153536/barbara-edwards
Citation: Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/75153536/barbara-edwards : accessed 29 August 2021), memorial page for Barbara “Barbary” Zimmerman Edwards (1718–1786), Find a Grave Memorial ID 75153536, citing Hebron Lutheran Church Cemetery, Madison, Madison County, Virginia, USA ; Maintained by Ninnette Zeigler (contributor 47299405) .
Johann Leonhart "John" Ziegler
GRAVE:
Johann Leonhardt Zeigler
Birth: 19 May 1712 Baden-Württemberg, Germany
Death: Dec 1757 (aged 45) Culpeper County, Virginia, USA
Burial: Hebron Lutheran Church Cemetery, Madison, Madison County, Virginia, USA
Memorial #: 75124227
Bio: Christened: May 19,1712 in Wallhausen, Jagstkreis,Wuettemberg,Germany
This is where the family lived.
His father was born, married and
died here.
Ship:Aug.11,1732 Samuel of London,
Captain Hugh Percy,
Ship from Rotterdam by way of Crows
Arrival: Philadelphia, Aug.11,1732
Oath of Alleigance and
anglicized name to Leonard same day.
This made his name John Leonard Zigler
The spelling of the name Zeigler was changed
on his voyage logs to Zigler. So being
German,he went along with the English way
of writing it. Through time the name was
also changed to Ziglar. I have seen
various ways of spelling it, such as
Zegler,Zeagler,Zeaglar,Zagler,and numerious
other ways. But it should all come back
to either Ziegler,Ziglar,Zigler or Zeigler,
some have never changed it. When he died he may
have been using one of these names.
Marriage: Aug.23,1737 Orange Co.,Va.
Spouse: Barbara "Barbary" Zimmerman
Barbara was given 200 acres of land by
her father, when she got married.
Will dated: Dec.03,1757
Probated in spring 1758.
Owned land on Stony Run adjacent to
brother-in-law, Frederick Zimmerman
Land that was given to Barbara, by her
father,Christopher Zimmerman. All this
means is that Christopher owned a lot of
land at one point in time. Leonard
also bought land and his will states he
divided it up between his children and wife.
Parents:
George Friderich Albrecht Zeigler
Apolonia Meckler Zeigler
They married: March 7,1693 Michelbach
ADL, Wallhausen,Wuettemberg,Germany
Children: Five
1.Johann Christopher b.1738 Orange Co.,Va.
2.Leonard b.1740 Orange Co.,Va.
3.Elizabeth (1744 Orange Co.Va.-1842 Stokes Co.,N.C.)
Never married.
Elizabeth was willed 200 acres of land by
her mother, after her mother died. Land that
was given to her mother, by Elizabeth's grandfather.
4.Nancy Ann b.1744 Orange Co.,Va.,d.(1805-1809) Harrison Co.,Va.
married about 1769, Culpeper Co.,Va.to
Amon Bohannon Rice and moved to Harrison Co.,Va. in 1805.
5.Susanna b.abt.1746-1750 Orange Co.,Va., married
Joshua Tilley about 1770, Culpeper Co.,Va.
They moved and lived in Stokes Co.,N.C.
There they owned a 630 acre tract of land.
almost one squire mile entered for Joshua
Tillery on October 5,1778.
Land granted to them by the State of Penn.
A second grant of 300 acres along the North
side of this grant was entered April,1780.
Land was along Hewins Creek.
By 1789, all was paid for and
nothing owed on land.
On,March 8,1789, they sold Leanna and Elisha
Thomas,157 1/2 acres of land, beginning
1/4 part of land tract of 630 acres,
for five lbs. Leanna and Elisha had been tenants.
(Leanna is Susanna's neice.)
Witnesses: A. Bostick,a tenant, Reuben Southern,Jr.,
a tenant.
On,March 8,1789. Joshua Tillery and wife,Susanna Zeigler
Tillery sold 300 acres on the Waters of
Hewins Creek, together with 1/4 of the 630 acres to Rueben Southern,Jr., a tenant on property, total of 457 1/2 acres. All for 100 lbs, current money.
Witnesses: A. Bostick, tenant, Elisha Thomas,
Joseph Reed.
Joshua Tillery and family moved to Morgan Co.,Ga.
Bought land in Oglethorpe Co.,Ga. 1797.
Joshua was b.abt.1746 Orange Co.,Va. Died Sept.23,1822 Morgan Co.,Ga.
his will was probated Jan.6,1823. His parents are:
Henry Tillery and Catherine Proctor of Orange Co.,Va.
Note:If you should link up (Please Do Better Research
on your page.)
Family Members
Spouse
Barbara Zimmerman Edwards 1718-1786
Children
Christopher Zeigler 1738-1818
Leonard Zeigler 1740-1772
Susannah Ziegler Tillery 1746-1839
Created by: Ninnette Zeigler (47299405)
Added: 18 Aug 2011
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/75124227/johann-leonhardt-zeigler
Citation: Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/75124227/johann-leonhardt-zeigler : accessed 29 August 2021), memorial page for Johann Leonhardt Zeigler (19 May 1712–Dec 1757), Find a Grave Memorial ID 75124227, citing Hebron Lutheran Church Cemetery, Madison, Madison County, Virginia, USA ; Maintained by Ninnette Zeigler (contributor 47299405) .
489.
Frederick Zimmerman
BOOK:
Clasping Hands With Generations Past by --Emma Rouse Lloyd, G929.2 R 863L pages 4, 48-57. Located at the Indianapolis, Indiana Library.
ALLIED FAMILIES
...
Page 155 (Digital page 166)
...
ZIMMERMAN
d FREDERICK 2 ZIMMERMAN (Christopher 1 and Elizabeth), wife Sarah.
Son:
da Reuben
Doubtless there were other children.
da REUBEN ZIMMERMAN m. Mary Catlett Yates.
Son:
daa WILLIAM GIBSON ZIMMERMAN m. Matilda Somersall.
Son:
daaa REUBEN ZIMMERMAN m. Mary A. E. Waters.
Children:
daaaa Elizabeth (died young)
daaab Mary Robbins m. ]ames Waters Allison
daaac William W. m. Virginia P. John son
daaad Adelaide m. William Conard
daaae Benjamin W. m. Ellen P. Carr
daaaf Dorothy Edmonstone rn. Robert Wright Allen (Pay Inspector U. S. N.)
daaag Alice Catlett In. Henry C. Carr
Page 156 (Digital page 167) - partial page only!
daaah Reuben (died young)
daaai Thomas W. (died young)
492.
Michael Carpenter
SPECULATED link to parent.
493.
Johann Paul Zimmermann
ANCESTRY:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/39109691/person/19326249335
Parents
Johannes Paul ZIMMERMANN 1738 – 1805
Maria Catharina STEIN 1749 – 1786
Spouse & Children▼
Anna Margaretha Mucklin 1783 – 1853
Philipp Zimmermann 1807 – 1874
Johannes ZIMMERMANN 1810 – 1861
Paul ZIMMERMANN 1813 – 1866
496.
Johann Paul Zimmermann
ANCESTRY:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/39109691/person/19326249334
507.
Margaretha Elisabetha Zimmermann
FSFTID # L8BC-WY2
Franz Ludwig Kräh
FSFTID # L8BC-WK7
897.
Catherina Krah
FSFTID # L143-2Q1
898.
Johann Christoph Krah
FSFTID # L143-6V2
899.
Franz Krah
FSFTID # L143-L2L
Barbara Ehrhard
FSFTID # L14S-183
900.
Eva Barbara Krah
FSFTID # L143-J67
901.
Johann Ludwig Kräh
FSFTID # L8BC-WDX
Dorothea Laubscher
FSFTID # L8BC-WND
513.
Catharina Zimmermann
FSFTID # LB9W-FKS
Hans Georg Gretz
FSFTID # MRFX-RLJ
902.
Catharina Gretz
FSFTID # LB9W-8Z2
903.
Georg Adam Gretz
FSFTID # LB9W-ZR1
OCCUPATION:
Bauer und Taglöhner (farmer and day laborer)
Ernestina Scharpf
FSFTID # LB9W-CG7
904.
Maria Barbara Gretz
FSFTID # LB97-L7Q
Adam Rau
FSFTID # LB97-627
905.
Maria Catharina Gretz
FSFTID # LB2M-6TX
516.
Jacob Zimmermann
FSFTID # LDQV-7VG
Barbara Schneider
FSFTID # LDQV-7KL
907.
Jacques Zimmerman
FSFTID # GH2V-8H7
Anne Marie Stucky
FSFTID # GHGX-8BD
909.
Johannes Zimmerman
FSFTID # GHGX-DZ4
Elisabetha Roggi
FSFTID # GHGX-MCR
518.
Magdalena Zimmermann
FSFTID # LTW3-TXF
Johannes Neffzer
FSFTID # LLQ7-JBF
910.
Johannes Nefzger
FSFTID # LL36-ZMT