Group 7 Descendants of Anthony Carpenter - THE VERY SPECULATED Progenitor of Group 7 of the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project.
Notes
9.
John Carpenter
Many have only confirmed to this John with birth ranges from 1760 to 1765.
SPOUSE-DAUGHTER: Information from Taylor County's County Clerk in a letter to Janet Gesas, Salt Lake City, received 23 January 1974. It stated that "Lusanah" or "Susanah" Harr was the daughter of John and Ann Carpenter and was born in Monongalia County, Virginia. (See files of 4th great grand daughter Janet Gesas Hornick, 5594 So. Lansing Ct., Englewood, Colorado 80111. H-6, item #7).
SPOUSE-CHILDREN: "Carpenters of the South," by Terry L. Carpenter, e-mail 1999: diluvius@flash.net, FHL 929.273 C225 ctl, chapter entitled "John Carpenter of Monongalia and Marion Counties, West Virginia", pages 1-4, published in 1990: "John Carpenter was born c1765 in NY or NJ and died c1827 in VA (DARM: 63, 560). He was possibly descended from John....... This John Carpenter's father, John Carpenter, was born c1710-1750 (probably around 1740), married Anna ---, and was a native of NY according to GSM (Goldie Sweet Martin, "Those Martins of Ours, and Some Related Families," Portland, Oregon 1979.) He could be a son of John and Mary (Drivers) Carpenter. There is strong evidence of some type of connection in the family names of descendants, but more research is needed. John Carpenter of Monongalia Cny VA married Nancy Miller c 1785 (GSM)." Their children listed. See C-3, #1, pages 1-4.
PARENTS-SPOUSE-SOME CHILDREN: "Some Martin Cousins", Goldie Sweet Martin and Dorothy Martin Bayless, 1979, pages 222-224: "Carpenter, John, Sr. (John 1 to Long Island 1700 and Anna) married Nancy Miller." Eight of their children and their spouses given. See M-17. NOTE: Data submitted 19 Jun 1979 from Mary B. Carpenter, Star Route 6, Box 198, Lewisburg, W.Va, 24901.
PARENTS-BIRTH-SPOUSE-CHILDREN-DEATH: Ancestral File, 1998 Edition submitted in 1997 by Donald and Judith Brothers, HC33, Box 1176, Boise, ID 83706. "John Carpenter, b. 1765, NY, fa. John Carpenter, mo. Anna, sp. Nancy Miller" Children given as: "John M., Prudence Lucy, Ashman, Mary, David G., Jane, Lorenna, Rowena, Elizabeth, Nancy Ann and Elmira." Only John M. has spouses given. [In 1999 Jan wrote to the Brothers, but did not hear back.]
DEED: Descendant Gary Baker, garyb@strategic.com, wrote 26 Apr 2002: "Also found a Monongalia Co. deed dated March 1830 from John Carpenter heirs (11 of them) including William Baker and wife Elizabeth selling Pricket Creek property to Ebenezer Graham. There were other parcels sold by John Carpenter heirs in 1839 as well. I think this resolves my question about where William's sons got money to buy 150 Ac. while in their 20's. in the 1840's - [from] mom [of] Elizabeth (Carpenter)."
QUESTION/CONFLICT: Was John married twice, first to Nancy Miller and second to Ann ---? If so, it would appear that the first children are Nancy's and the later children Ann's. See notes of the children, especially Lucy Prudence, Lorenna/Lurana, etc. See also C-3, #3, a copy of the 1993 Ancestral File submission of John Carpenter and Sarah Mary Driver. It would appear that their son John was born in 1747 in Gloucester, NJ. Further, it would seem unlikely, based on his birth date, that he could be this John.
INVENTORY: See Notebook II, page 40 - Information on a John Carpenter, Inv. 7-13-1826 and Sale Bill 10-21-1826. ACTION: Check original record.
MIGRATION PATTERNS: Robert M. Hershman reported via e-mail on 28 Apr 1998 that many of the lines he has researched "came to central WV from either NY or NJ. The migration pattern included their stopping for a period in Hampshire, Hardy County, WV or Frederick Co., MD."
POSSIBLE SON: The 1810 Census indicates another son, probably born in the late 1700's, according to information found in that census by Patty Helms, April 1998. This would explain the gap around 1790-1793.
PROBABLE DAUGHTER: Patty reported on May 10, 1998 that Phoebe Carpenter who married a John Stouffer (?sp.) signed off on the settlement of the estate. Thus, it appears that she may have been the youngest daughter of John and Ann. See C-9.
HISTORICAL NOTES: Gary Baker sent a Carpenter Family History written in 1984 by an unknown author, possibly Carl Carpenter: "During the early 1700's, three brothers by the names of John, Ashman and David Carpenter lived on Long Island, New York. The three were of Scotch-Irish extraction and it was not clear if the young men's parents were of Scottish and Irish ancestry or whether they were Scottish settlers sent to Northern Ireland to help colonize the land for Great Britain. In any case John traveled to Fort Pitt, Ashman moved to North Carolina and David moved to Philadelphia."
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The following notes are from Patty Carpenter Helms, 1998: "John died in 1827 believed to be in Monongalia County, VA. His daughters were married in Monongalia County, and he is listed in the 1810, 1820 Monongalia census. He is also listed in the Virginia Tax records. NOTE: John bought property with William Miller on Siscoe's Run. Is William Miller a brother-in-law? NOTE: Listed in 1810 census as John Carpenter, John Carpenter Jr. Is his middle name S.?
CENSUS: In 1810 there were 9 children listed as living in the household; it lists 2 males under the age of 10 which would account for David born 1803, Ashman born 1801; 1 male age 16-26 not sure of who this could. Is there another brother not accounted for? 2 males age 45 & up, one is John the father, who is the other? 2 females under the age of 10 which is probably Rhoanna and Lurenna and Phoebe; 4 females ages 10-16.
POSSIBLE ANCESTORS: On 9 July 2000, Paul Shroyer sent a five page report with Carpenter descendants. John Carpenter, below, was given as "Generation No. 16", with the following ancestors. See Jan Hornick's "Gen - Carpenter Descendants - Paul Shroyer - July 2000" in her Word file, along with a Gen Forum discussion of William Carpenter, born 1605, Generation 11.
"JOHN16 CARPENTER II (JOHN15, JOHN14, CAPT. HOPE13, CAPT. JOHN12, WILLIAM BATT11, WILLIAM10, WILLIAM9, WILLIAM8, JOHN7, JAMES6, WILLIAM5, JOHN4, JOHN3, RICHARD2, JOHN1) was born Abt. 1762 in Long Island N.Y., and died Bef. 1827 in Marion Co. W.Va.. He married NANCY ANNA MILLER Abt. 1785. She was born Abt. 1767 in Marion Co. W.Va.."
Anna
SPOUSE-CHILDREN: See notes on husband, John Carpenter. QUESTION: Are Nancy Miller and Ann or Anna the same person? Or did John marry first Nancy Miller, the mother of his first several children, then subsequently marry an Ann who was the mother of his later children? Marriage and other records of the younger children report an "Ann."
NAME: We know the name Anna but no surname as Ann or Nancy Miller. It appears 3 women merged together.
17.
Fielding Felix Carpenter
This line submitted by John & Peggy Chears lawdog34@lycos.com
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 6:52 AM
Also it was submitted by two members of the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project with connection to son Joseph as unproven.
DEATH: 25 June 1853 & 25 Apr 1853 (listed) given as death date. The record needs to be checked to determine which one is correct.
Delphia Bragg Ward
Most people I have talked to say surname is Bragg.
Surname Bragg Ward in the following PRF.
Mother: Delphia Bragg Ward Disc #142 Pin #3989742
Delphia (Duplicate of 107883) Ward or Bragg
Duplicate of RIN 107883.
19.
Yelverton Carpenter
WILL Proven 1848) North Carolina to Hawkins County, Tennessee Occup: War of 1812, Jan 1814 Co C.
Pedigree Resource File (PRF) has:
Yelverton Carpenter Compact Disc #38 Pin #9037 Sex: M
Birth: 1780 Place: , Pendleton, North Carolina, Usa
Death: 27 Jun 1848 Place: , Hawkin, Tenneesse, Usa
Parents:
Father: Stephen Carpenter Disc #38 Pin #5647
Mother: Rebecca Sprague Disc #38 Pin #7070
Marriage(s):
Spouse: Hannah Allen Disc #38 Pin #17378
Marriage: 26 Mar 1793 Place: ,Penelton, Tennessee, USA
Yelberton Carpenter , (Militia) Compact Disc #116 Pin #90043
WILL Proven 1848
North Carolina to Hawkins County, Tennessee
Occup: War of 1812, Jan 1814 Co C. B
Submitter: Peggy LEYVA-CONLEY
1011 Cherry Court, Hollister, California, 95023, United States of America
NAME: "Yelberton" is really just Yelverton, the name "Yelverton" comes from a surname which comes from a town name, and the "v" is correct. I have a whole string of forename Yelvertons in Rhode Island, and the interesting thing is that not even one of them named a son after himself, but their sisters seemed fond of the name. John F. Chandler
In Group 7 in the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project.
Reference: 15771
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Husband
James M. Carpenter Pedigree
Birth: About 1804 , Claiborne, Tennessee
Christening:
Marriage: About 1820 , , Tennessee
Death:
Burial:
Father: Yelberton Carpenter Family
Mother: Hannah Allen
Wife
Elizabeth Pedigree
Birth: 1807 , Claiborne, Tennessee
Christening:
Marriage: About 1820 , , Tennessee
Death:
Burial:
Children
1. Hannah Carpenter Pedigree
Female
Birth: 1834 , Claiborne, Tennessee
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
2. William H. Carpenter Pedigree
Male
Birth: 1843 , Claiborne, Tennessee
Christening:
Death:
21.
John Carpenter Sgt.
AFN: 1SGW-2KP & 112M-MRX
PENSION: See Books, Articles, Wills & such ... RIN 20121 John Carpenter AMREV Pension.pdf
SEE: Carpenter and Related Family Historical Journal, Vol. 5, Winter
1994/1995, Number 8, page 519, documents his service in the Revolutiion.
John Carpenter served under Capt. Samuel Jordan Cabell, 6th Virginia
Battalion, Lt. Col. Hendricks on 17 Feb. 1776 with pay in 1777 and 1778 with
Rifleman Col. Van Morgan (53581). Sergeant John Carpenter in 1777 enlisted in
Amherst County, Virginia for three years in Capt. Samuel Lapsley's Company of
the 12th Continental Line (army) of Col. Daniel Morgan's Virginia Unit.
John Carpenter also enlisted in a Company that was from Botetourt County of
Covington, VA and two of his first cousins also served earlier or were serving
with John, them being Amos Carpenter and Solomon Carpenter, descendants of
Joseph Carpenter.
In 1784 Sgt. John Carpenter of Amherst County, VA was granted hundreds of acres
of land in Kentucky for his service in the Continental Line in the
Revolutionary War. He moved with his wife and family to Green County, KY
by 1802.
Sgt. John Carpenter in 1827 moved to Monroe County, Indiana to be under the
immediate care and protection of his children. He then resided in 1830 in
Owen County with six of his sons.
From the Journal of Illinois State Historical Society, Vol. 8, Number 3, Oct.
1915, page 441, as reported by Richard Charles Carpenter, tells of Sgt. John
Carpenter's brothers Benjamin.
John was a Sgt in French and Indian War and was in the war of 1812.
John, Enlisted for three years in 1777 in Col. Nathan Gist's 12 th
Regiment of the Virginia Continental Line, in the company commanded
by Captain Samuel Lapsly as a Private , (Pens Appl # S3581)
John , was in the Battles of Monmouth, Stony Point, and Charlestown,
South Carolina, where he was taken prisoner May 12, 1780. He recieved a
pension for his services, and in 1784 was granted 400 acres of land in
Kentucky for his services in the Continental Line. He is listed on the
census of Amherst County, Virginia in 1783 & 1785, he was a witness to a
deed from his father Thomas to his brothers James & George Carpenter on
Aug. 11, 1792.
John removed to Knox County, Kentucky where he was living in 1821, and the
removed to Monroe County, Indiana, "for care and protection of his children."
E-MAIL: From: Tony Tolley
To: John L. Carpenter
Date: 13 April, 2000
Subject: Detail Information about The Revolutionary War Warrants
Detailed Information About Carpenter, John.
Warrant ID 1428.0 Veteran Name Carpenter, John.
Assignee Acres 200 Years 3 Rank Sergeant.
Unit Virginia State Line Branch Unknown Date 07/26/1783.
Authorized WTRM 217* Note WTRM 217 (CURRIE, James).
SEE Misc Pic files.
The PRF has slightly different info:
Birth: 1740 VA.
Birth: 1740
Death: 12 Dec 1822 VA.
CHILD: Is Jesse his son or his brother Benjamin's son? My guess is that he belongs to Benjamin. Why? Sgt. John Carpenter-20121 has a documented family. Benjamin does not.
CENSUS: 1810 US Census
From: "Donna Cuzze"
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010
To:
Subject: [CARPENTER] Fleming KY Census
If Thomas Carpenter was born circa 1808 in Fleming KY, then his parents should be in the census of > 1810. Here is what pops up for Fleming County census records on Carpenters:
1810 CENSUS
Kids -Adults -Total
Hary [Henry] Carpenter Flemingsburg, Fleming, Kentucky 4 2 6
John Carpenter Flemingsburg, Fleming, Kentucky 5 2 7
Richard Carpenter Flemingsburg, Fleming, Kentucky 1 2 3
William Carpenter Flemingsburg, Fleming, Kentucky 4 1 6
Unfortunately, all earlier census records were burned. But this should give you a good starting point for research.
By the way, on Ancestry.com there are many family files submitted for the Thomas who married Nancy Connard/Conrad.
Almost all of them reflect a birth date for Thomas of Feb 25, 1808 in KY but don't specify Fleming.
Donna
76.
Nathaniel Carpenter
E-MAIL: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 From: "Gerald Lowe"
Gerald Lowe of Seneca, Illinois.
Descendants of Nathaniel Carpenter
Generation No. 1
1. NATHANIEL1 CARPENTER. He married REBECCA.
Child of NATHANIEL CARPENTER and REBECCA is:
2. i. Elizabeth2 Carpenter, b. Abt. 1813, Green Co., ky.; d. June 15, 1857.
Generation No. 2
2. ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER (NATHANIEL1) was born Abt. 1813 in Green Co., ky., and
died June 15, 1857. She married THOMAS MURRELL Bef. 1839, son of REUBEN
MURRELL and MILDRED.
Children of ELIZABETH CARPENTER and THOMAS MURRELL are:
3. i. William Jefferson3 Murrell, b. August 28, 1839, Green Co., Ky.; d.
February 08, 1913.
4. ii. Eliza Murrell, b. 1841, Green Co., ky..
iii. John F. Murrell, b. 1845, Green Co.,ky.; d.June 30, 1855, Taylor Co.,Ky.
5. iv. Lucinda Murrell, b. February 07, 1847, Green Co., ky.; d. April 11, 1910.
v. Houston Murrell, b. March 07, 1848, Green Co., ky.; d. April 22, 1922; m.
Cordelia Hogan, November 22, 1871.
Generation No. 3
3. WILLIAM JEFFERSON3 MURRELL (ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born
August 28, 1839 in Green Co., Ky., and died February 08, 1913. He married LUCY
ANN HARDEN October 19, 1864 in Taylor Co. Kentucky, daughter of ISACC HARDEN
and MARTHA LOW.
Children of WILLIAM MURRELL and LUCY HARDEN are:
i.John Thomas4 Murrell, b. August 29, 1865, Taylor Co., Ky.; d. January 19,
1920.
ii. James Wesley Murrell, b. June 06, 1868, Taylor Co., Ky.; d. October 19,
1920; m. Hanna Shanklin.
iii.
Moses Houston Murrell, b. May 19, 1871; d. April 30, 1959; m. Ollie Overstreet.
iv. Martha I. Murrell, b. July 29, 1875; d. April 02, 1914.
v.Lizzie Mae Murrell, b. May 01, 1879; d. February 05, 1967; m. W. P. Dickens,
February 07, 1905.
vi. Claudia Emma Murrell, b. December 21, 1885; d. March 25, 1910.
vii. Luther Bell Murrell, b. March 20, 1887; d. February 05, 1967.
4. ELIZA3 MURRELL (ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born 1841 in Green
Co., ky.. She married HENRY LOWE April 10, 1860 in Taylor Co. KY., son of
OBEDIAH LOWE and SARAH SALLEE.
Children of ELIZA MURRELL and HENRY LOWE are:
i. Amanda4 Lowe, b. Abt. 1862.
ii. Loubelle Lowe, b. Abt. 1864.
iii. William G. Lowe, b. Abt. 1866.
iv. Elizabeth Lowe, b. Abt. 1868.
v. Sallie B. Lowe, b. June 15, 1870.
vi. Ellan L. Lowe, b. Abt. 1873.
vii. Ollie M. Lowe, b. Abt. 1879.
5. LUCINDA3 MURRELL (ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born February 07,
1847 in Green Co., ky., and died April 11, 1910. She married FRANKLIN LOWE
January 11, 1866 in Taylor Co. Kentucky, son of OBEDIAH LOWE and SARAH SALLEE.
Children of LUCINDA MURRELL and FRANKLIN LOWE are:
6. i. Fidella4 Lowe, b. Abt. 1867; d. January 10, 1953, Taylor Co., Ky..
7. ii. Ellen Lowe, b. Abt. 1870.
iii. Marett Lowe, b. Abt. 1878; m. Martha Ellen Noel.
8. iv. William Cleveland Lowe, b. February 17, 1885, Taylor Co. Ky.; d.
March 08, 1946, Marseilles, Il..
9. v. Alvin Lowe, b. July 15, 1889, Taylor Co. Kentucky; d. April 1970.
Generation No. 4
6. FIDELLA4 LOWE (LUCINDA3 MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born
Abt. 1867, and died January 10, 1953 in Taylor Co., Ky.. She married PRESTON
STAMP.
Child of FIDELLA LOWE and PRESTON STAMP is:
i. Clem5 Stamp, d. March 20, 1960, Taylor Co., Ky..
7. ELLEN4 LOWE (LUCINDA3 MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born
Abt. 1870. She married JOHN L. CORNEILSON, son of GARLAND CORNEILSON and
CATHARINE HELM.
Children of ELLEN LOWE and JOHN CORNEILSON are:
i. Edna5 Corneilson.
ii. Ora Corneilson.
8. WILLIAM CLEVELAND4 LOWE (LUCINDA3 MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER,
NATHANIEL1) was born February 17, 1885 in Taylor Co. Ky., and died March 08,
1946 in Marseilles, Il.. He married BETTY ANN ELLIS January 22, 1906 in
Mannsville Ky., daughter of JOSHUA ELLIS and MARTHA WEDDLE.
Children of WILLIAM LOWE and BETTY ELLIS are:
10. i. Bernice5 Lowe, b. April 12, 1907; d. October 15, 1994, Marseilles, Il..
11.ii. Luease Lowe, b.December 31, 1909; d.February 23, 1986, Marseilles,Il..
12. iii. Sinda Lowe, b. February 06, 1914; d. May 30, 1935, Kentucky.
13. iv. Cleo Lowe, b. October 09, 1916, Talulla Il..
v. William Lowe, b. September 03, 1918, Marseilles, Il.; d. October 27, 1981,
Madison, Wisc.; m. Irene Kuehn, December 08, 1939, Marseilles Il..
Notes for William Lowe: Fought in WW2 in Europe. Buried Greenwood Cemetery,
Tomahawk, Wisc. He loved to hunt.
14. vi. Edward Lowe, b. May 16, 1921, Marseilles, Il..
9. ALVIN4 LOWE (LUCINDA3 MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born
July 15, 1889 in Taylor Co. Kentucky1, and died April 19701. He married PEARL
EDWARDS.
Children of ALVIN LOWE and PEARL EDWARDS are:
15. i. Velma5 Lowe, b. 1909, Taylor Co., Ky.; d. April 1970, Marseilles,Ill..
ii. Clarence Lowe, b. July 18, 1913; d. September 1975.
iii. Howard Lowe.
iv. Thomas Lowe.
v. Alvin Lowe.
vi. Rose Lowe.
vii. Iva Lowe.
viii. Tedy Lowe.
ix. Ronnie Lowe.
Generation No. 5
10. BERNICE5 LOWE (WILLIAM CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3 MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER,
NATHANIEL1) was born April 12, 1907, and died October 15, 1994 in Marseilles,
Il.. She married FRANCIS CARL SIGLER 1924.
Children of BERNICE LOWE and FRANCIS SIGLER are:
16. i. John Carl6 Sigler, b. October 07, 1925, Marseilles, Il..
17. ii. William Francis Sigler, b. August 23, 1927, Chicago , Ill..
iii. Robert Edward Sigler, b. August 17, 1929, Marseilles, Il.; d. August 14,
1995, Carmel, Calif.; m. Leonie Gunther, February 02, 1965, San Jose, Calif..
18. iv. Carl Francis Sigler, b. November 29, 1931, Marseilles, Il..
19. v. Bertha Ann Sigler, b. September 24, 1938, Marseilles, Il..
20. vi. Charles Cleo Sigler, b. August 16, 1940, Marseilles, Il..
11. LUEASE5 LOWE (WILLIAM CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3 MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER,
NATHANIEL1) was born December 31, 1909, and died February 23, 1986 in
Marseilles, Il.. She married WILMER BROCKMAN 1923 in Kentucky.
Children of LUEASE LOWE and WILMER BROCKMAN are:
i. Leonard6 Brockman, m. Lorraine Sauers.
ii. Robert Brockman, m. Lucille Underwood.
iii. Wanda Brockman.
21. iv. Wilmer Brockman.
v. Jewel Brockman, m. Lory.
vi. Joyce Brockman, m. Farero.
vii. Betty Lou Brockman, m. Reimann.
viii. Delores Brockman, m. Robert England.
ix. Wilma Brockman, m. Albert Perkins.
x. Douglas Brockman, m. Susan Pitts.
xi. Dennis Brockman.
xii. Donny Brockman, b. 1946; d. 1967.
12. SINDA5 LOWE (WILLIAM CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3 MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER,
NATHANIEL1) was born February 06, 1914, and died May 30, 1935 in Kentucky. She
married FRED EDWARDS in Kentucky.
Child of SINDA LOWE and FRED EDWARDS is:
i. Babyboy6 Edwards, b. May 30, 1935; d. May 30, 1935.
13. CLEO5 LOWE (WILLIAM CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3 MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER,
NATHANIEL1) was born October 09, 1916 in Talulla Il.. He married DOROTHY AGNES
SCHOMAS June 15, 1937 in Seneca, Il., daughter of CHARLES SCHOMAS and SUSAN
HICKEY.
Children of CLEO LOWE and DOROTHY SCHOMAS are:
22. i. Donald Raphael6 Lowe, b. April 28, 1938, Seneca , Il.
23. ii. Gerald Edward Lowe, b. October 28, 1940, Seneca, Il..
24. iii. Roland Charles Lowe, b. August 24, 1943, Ottawa Il..
25. iv. James Ellis Lowe, b. April 24, 1949, Ottawa Il..
14. EDWARD5 LOWE (WILLIAM CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3 MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER,
NATHANIEL1) was born May 16, 1921 in Marseilles, Il.. He met (1) STELLA MAE
COX. He married (2) LISSIE WILLOW ELLIOTT August 19, 1958 in Ottawa, Il..
Notes for EDWARD LOWE: Fought in WW2 in the Pacific.
Child of EDWARD LOWE and STELLA COX is:
26. i. Michael R.6 Cox, b. May 10, 1947.
15. VELMA5 LOWE (ALVIN4, LUCINDA3 MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1)
was born 1909 in Taylor Co., Ky., and died April 1970 in Marseilles,Ill.. She
married LEON LEWIS MOREL 1926, son of MERIMACK MOREL.
Children of VELMA LOWE and LEON MOREL are:
i. Ruth6 Morel, b. Abt. 1926.
27. ii. Doris Morel, b. March 07, 1928, Marseilles,Ill..
Generation No. 6
16. JOHN CARL6 SIGLER (BERNICE5 LOWE, WILLIAM CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3 MURRELL,
ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born October 07, 1925 in Marseilles, Il..
He married GLORIA ANTOINETTE VITTONE August 19, 1944 in Pleasantville, New
Jersey, daughter of JOSEPH VITTONE and MARY DE BERHARDI.
Children of JOHN SIGLER and GLORIA VITTONE are:
28. i. Nancy Marie7 Sigler, b. October 21, 1947, Ottawa Il..
ii. Richard John Sigler, b. March 10, 1953.
17. WILLIAM FRANCIS6 SIGLER (BERNICE5 LOWE, WILLIAM CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3
MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born August 23, 1927 in Chicago
, Ill.. He married DELORES REHLING.
Children of WILLIAM SIGLER and DELORES REHLING are:
29. i. William Francis7 Sigler, b. July 28, 1948.
30. ii. Timothy Stephen Sigler, b. September 08, 1952, Ottawa Il..
31. iii. Barry Edwin Sigler, b. January 16, 1957, Ottawa Il..
18. CARL FRANCIS6 SIGLER (BERNICE5 LOWE, WILLIAM CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3 MURRELL,
ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born November 29, 1931 in Marseilles,
Il.. He married ELLA MAE BALDRIDGE April 03, 1953 in Waukegan, Ill..
Children of CARL SIGLER and ELLA BALDRIDGE are:
32. i. Dean Curtis7 Sigler, b. January 24, 1955, Quantico, Virginia.
33. ii. Diane Louise Sigler, b. March 25, 1956.
iii. Dale Michael Sigler, b. March 04, 1957.
iv. Donald Francis Sigler, b. December 28, 1958.
19. BERTHA ANN6 SIGLER (BERNICE5 LOWE, WILLIAM CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3 MURRELL,
ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born September 24, 1938 in Marseilles,
Il.. She married EDGAR EMMETT July 04, 1957 in Springfield, Ill., son of
GEORGE EMMETT and WILMA BRADLEY.
Children of BERTHA SIGLER and EDGAR EMMETT are:
34. i. Craig Eugene7 Emmett, b. October 05, 1958, Ottawa Il..
35. ii. Connie Jo Emmett, b. October 22, 1959, Ottawa Il..
36. iii. Cheryl Ann Emmett, b. March 29, 1961.
37. iv. Robert Matthew Emmett, b. July 06, 1964, Ottawa Il..
20. CHARLES CLEO6 SIGLER (BERNICE5 LOWE, WILLIAM CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3 MURRELL,
ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born August 16, 1940 in Marseilles, Il..
He married SHIRLEY O'CONNELL.
Children of CHARLES SIGLER and SHIRLEY O'CONNELL are:
i. Charles Scott7 Sigler.
ii. Debra Sigler.
iii. Brenda Sigler.
iv. Tammy Sigler.
21. WILMER6 BROCKMAN (LUEASE5 LOWE, WILLIAM CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3 MURRELL,
ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1). He married EDITH SAMPSON August 07, 1949 in
Marseilles Il..
Children of WILMER BROCKMAN and EDITH SAMPSON are:
i. Janet7 Brockman, m. Steve Rexroat.
ii. Linda Brockman, m. Bryan Winchell.
iii. Judy Brockman, m. Randall Farris.
iv. Bruce Brockman, m. Cheryl.
22. DONALD RAPHAEL6 LOWE (CLEO5, WILLIAM CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3 MURRELL,
ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born April 28, 1938 in Seneca , Il. He
married JOAN MARIE DIEDERICH February 09, 1963 in Morris , Il., daughter of
JOHN DIEDERICH and MARY RIELAND.
Notes for DONALD RAPHAEL LOWE:
Children of DONALD LOWE and JOAN DIEDERICH are:
38. i. Donald Raphael Lowe7 Jr., b. November 29, 1963, Morris , Il..
39. ii. Patricia Ann Lowe, b. June 10, 1965, Morris , Il..
40. iii. Kathleen Marie Lowe, b. July 13, 1966, Morris , Il..
41. iv. Robert John Lowe, b. July 03, 1968, Morris , Il..
v. Rebecca Lynn Lowe, b. July 08, 1970, Morris , Il..
23. GERALD EDWARD6 LOWE (CLEO5, WILLIAM CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3 MURRELL,
ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born October 28, 1940 in Seneca, Il.. He
married MARY LOU MCALLESTER May 29, 1965 in Marseilles Il., daughter of CHARLES
MCALLESTER and SHIRLEY ANDERSON.
Children of GERALD LOWE and MARY MCALLESTER are:
i. Stephen Gerald7 Lowe, b. December 24, 1965, Ottawa Il.; d. December 31,
1986, Lincoln, Il.; m. Nancy Page, November 15, 1985, Ottawa, Il..
42. ii. Angela Janine Lowe, b. June 08, 1968, Ottawa Il..
iii. Sarah Nicole Lowe, b. September 28, 1974, Ottawa Il..
iv. Karie Susanne Lowe, b. February 11, 1977, Ottawa Il..
24. ROLAND CHARLES6 LOWE (CLEO5, WILLIAM CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3 MURRELL,
ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born August 24, 1943 in Ottawa Il.. He
married SANDRA LYNN SMITH September 10, 1966 in Marseilles Il., daughter of
THEODORE SMITH and ISABELLE BUFORD.
Children of ROLAND LOWE and SANDRA SMITH are:
i. Roland Charles Lowe7 Jr., b. September 05, 1970, Ottawa Il.; m. Pamela Jo
Phillips, August 24, 1997, Wheaton, Il..
ii. Emily Catherine Lowe, b. August 27, 1972.
25. JAMES ELLIS6 LOWE (CLEO5, WILLIAM CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3 MURRELL, ELIZABETH2
CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born April 24, 1949 in Ottawa Il.. He married
ROSALYN SUE EIBEN September 21, 1970 in Honolulu, Hawaii, daughter of PAUL
EIBEN and PEARL HIGGINS.
He Served in the Viet Nam War.
Children of JAMES LOWE and ROSALYN EIBEN are:
43. i. James Ellis Lowe7 Jr., b. March 25, 1972, Ottawa Il..
44. ii. David Aaron Lowe, b. July 09, 1974, Ottawa Il..
iii. Phillip Michael Lowe, b. February 07, 1979, Ottawa Il..
26. MICHAEL R.6 COX (EDWARD5 LOWE, WILLIAM CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3 MURRELL,
ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born May 10, 1947. He married SHIRLEY
LOCK.
Child of MICHAEL COX and SHIRLEY LOCK is:
i. Jenna Michelle7 Cox, b. December 08, 1984.
27. DORIS6 MOREL (VELMA5 LOWE, ALVIN4, LUCINDA3 MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER,
NATHANIEL1) was born March 07, 1928 in Marseilles,Ill.. She married GLENN
ALDRICH.
Children of DORIS MOREL and GLENN ALDRICH are:
i. Carol Ann7 Aldrich, b. April 28, 1946; d. 1973, Columbus, Ne.;
m. Philip Eggli, Abt. 1962.
ii. David Glenn Aldrich, b. August 12, 1948, Columbus, Ne.; m. Virginia Lousie
Yanders, January 19, 1966, Columbus, Ne..
Generation No. 7
28. NANCY MARIE7 SIGLER (JOHN CARL6, BERNICE5 LOWE, WILLIAM CLEVELAND4,
LUCINDA3 MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born October 21, 1947
in Ottawa Il.. She married MICHAEL JON CAPSEL April 20, 1968 in Ottawa, Il..
Children of NANCY SIGLER and MICHAEL CAPSEL are:
i.
Jason Michael8 Capsel, b. April 25, 1969, Ottawa Il.; m. Brandy.
ii.
Aaron Christopher Capsel, b. January 05, 1975, Ottawa Il..
29. WILLIAM FRANCIS7 SIGLER (WILLIAM FRANCIS6, BERNICE5 LOWE, WILLIAM
CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3 MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born July
28, 1948. He married (1) LUCY HOLDEN. He married (2) INAS MAE MILLER December
19, 1971 in Lakeland ,Fla..
Children of WILLIAM SIGLER and LUCY HOLDEN are:
i.
Charles Francis8 Sigler.
ii.
Cindy Francis Sigler.
30. TIMOTHY STEPHEN7 SIGLER (WILLIAM FRANCIS6, BERNICE5 LOWE, WILLIAM
CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3 MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born
September 08, 1952 in Ottawa Il.. He married (1) TAMMY TAROCHIONE November 29,
1975 in Marseilles Il.. He married (2) BRENDA KAYE BERRY June 08, 1979 in
Lakeland, Fla..
Child of TIMOTHY SIGLER and TAMMY TAROCHIONE is:
i.
Nicoli Marie8 Sigler, b. June 11, 1976, Ottawa Il..
Children of TIMOTHY SIGLER and BRENDA BERRY are:
ii.
Tonya Navaline8 Sigler.
iii.
Timothy Stephen Sigler Jr..
31. BARRY EDWIN7 SIGLER (WILLIAM FRANCIS6, BERNICE5 LOWE, WILLIAM CLEVELAND4,
LUCINDA3 MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born January 16, 1957
in Ottawa Il.. He married MARION MC CONNELL August 26, 1989 in Buffalo Rock
State Park, LaSalle Co. Ill., daughter of JOHN MC CONNELL and SHARON ADDIS.
Children of BARRY SIGLER and MARION MC CONNELL are:
i.
Ashley Ann8 Sigler, b. November 14, 1989, Ottawa Il..
ii.
Brieanne Delores Sigler, b. August 27, 1991, Ottawa Il..
32. DEAN CURTIS7 SIGLER (CARL FRANCIS6, BERNICE5 LOWE, WILLIAM CLEVELAND4,
LUCINDA3 MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born January 24, 1955
in Quantico, Virginia. He married THERESA DIANE EDWARDS December 15, 1979 in
Charleston, S.C..
Children of DEAN SIGLER and THERESA EDWARDS are:
i.
Sandra Lynn8 Sigler, b. May 17, 1981, Portsmouth, Virginia.
ii.
ShawnLee Sigler, b. February 01, 1983, Portsmouth, Virginia.
33. DIANE LOUISE7 SIGLER (CARL FRANCIS6, BERNICE5 LOWE, WILLIAM CLEVELAND4,
LUCINDA3 MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born March 25, 1956.
She married DELVAN DYE.
Child of DIANE SIGLER and DELVAN DYE is:
i.
Carl Lawrence8 Dye, b. September 27, 1981, Indianapolis, Ind..
34. CRAIG EUGENE7 EMMETT (BERTHA ANN6 SIGLER, BERNICE5 LOWE, WILLIAM
CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3 MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born
October 05, 1958 in Ottawa Il.. He married LOUISE KIM NEWTSON September 22,
1979 in Marseilles Il., daughter of KENNETH NEWTSON and LOIS SALTZMAN.
Children of CRAIG EMMETT and LOUISE NEWTSON are:
i.
Heidi Marie8 Emmett, b. March 04, 1981, Ottawa Il..
ii.
Amber Lynn Emmett, b. January 17, 1986, Ottawa Il..
35. CONNIE JO7 EMMETT (BERTHA ANN6 SIGLER, BERNICE5 LOWE, WILLIAM CLEVELAND4,
LUCINDA3 MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born October 22, 1959
in Ottawa Il.. She married KIM ROBERT JACKSON October 28, 1978 in Stavanger,
Ill., son of ROBERT JACKSON and MARY ERICKSON.
Children of CONNIE EMMETT and KIM JACKSON are:
i.
Heather Dawn8 Jackson, b. April 13, 1979, Ottawa Il..
ii.
Matthew Robert Jackson, b. November 04, 1982, Ottawa Il..
36. CHERYL ANN7 EMMETT (BERTHA ANN6 SIGLER, BERNICE5 LOWE, WILLIAM CLEVELAND4,
LUCINDA3 MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born March 29, 1961.
She married JOSEPH RICHARD KAUFMANN March 14, 1986 in Marseilles Il..
Children of CHERYL EMMETT and JOSEPH KAUFMANN are:
i.
Ryan Joseph8 Kaufmann, b. September 04, 1986, Ottawa Il..
ii.
Sarah Christine Kaufmann, b. November 20, 1987, Ottawa Il..
iii.
Emily Ann Kaufmann, b. June 08, 1981, Ottawa Il..
37. ROBERT MATTHEW7 EMMETT (BERTHA ANN6 SIGLER, BERNICE5 LOWE, WILLIAM
CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3 MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born July
06, 1964 in Ottawa Il.. He married SUSAN ANN SIZEMORE May 17, 1994 in
Elizabeth, Ill..
Child of ROBERT EMMETT and SUSAN SIZEMORE is:
i.
Joshua Matthew8 Emmett, b. July 04, 1995, Joliet, Ill..
38. DONALD RAPHAEL LOWE7 JR. (DONALD RAPHAEL6 LOWE, CLEO5, WILLIAM CLEVELAND4,
LUCINDA3 MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born November 29, 1963
in Morris , Il.. He married KAREN L. LANTZ November 13, 1993 in Wheaton,
Il., daughter of JOHN F.LANTZ and HELEN MC CULLEN.
Children of DONALD JR. and KAREN LANTZ are:
i.
Nicholas John8 Lowe, b. January 31, 1997.
ii.
Matthew Eric Lowe, b. February 11, 1999.
39. PATRICIA ANN7 LOWE (DONALD RAPHAEL6, CLEO5, WILLIAM CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3
MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born June 10, 1965 in Morris ,
Il.. She married GREGORY ALLEN OWEN July 24, 1993 in Kankakee,Il., son of
RICHARD OWEN and MARLENE DUCHENE.
Children of PATRICIA LOWE and GREGORY OWEN are:
i. Jennifer Marie8 Owen, b. March 18, 1997.
ii. Allison Nicole Owen, b. June 11, 1999.
40. KATHLEEN MARIE7 LOWE (DONALD RAPHAEL6, CLEO5, WILLIAM CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3
MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born July 13, 1966 in Morris ,
Il.. She married ANDREW JOSEPH MATEJCAK JR. June 24, 1989 in Joliet, Il., son
of ANDREW SR. and MARY ORENIC.
Children of KATHLEEN LOWE and ANDREW JR. are:
i. Andrew8 Matejcak III, b. March 19, 1993.
ii. Eric Michael Matejcak, b. March 19, 1993.
iii. Brian Matthew Matejcak, b. May 26, 1995.
41. ROBERT JOHN7 LOWE (DONALD RAPHAEL6, CLEO5, WILLIAM CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3
MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born July 03, 1968 in Morris ,
Il.. He married ROSE MARIE KELLY June 08, 1991 in Will Co. Illinois, daughter
of MICHAEL KELLY and NANCY WEBER.
Children of ROBERT LOWE and ROSE KELLY are:
i. Laura Marie8 Lowe, b. February 22, 1994, Ottawa Il..
ii. Elizabeth Ann Lowe, b. October 21, 1996, Ottawa Il..
42. ANGELA JANINE7 LOWE (GERALD EDWARD6, CLEO5, WILLIAM CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3
MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born June 08, 1968 in Ottawa
Il.. She married TODD RICHARD VONDEROHE September 29, 1990 in Marseilles Il.,
son of KENNETH VONDEROHE and NANCY LAUER.
Children of ANGELA LOWE and TODD VONDEROHE are:
i. Ryan Christopher8 Vonderohe, b. December 04, 1993, Indianapolis,Ind..
ii. Kelsey Elizabeth Vonderohe, b. December 16, 1996, Indianapolis, Ind..
iii. Kate Alexandra Vonderohe, b. June 01, 1999, Indianapolis, Ind..
43. JAMES ELLIS LOWE7 JR. (JAMES ELLIS6 LOWE, CLEO5, WILLIAM CLEVELAND4,
LUCINDA3 MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born March 25, 1972 in
Ottawa Il.. He married MELISSA ANN SINCLAIR November 25, 1998 in Ottawa, Il.,
daughter of DONALD SINCLAIR and PAM DECKER.
Child of JAMES JR. and MELISSA SINCLAIR is:
i. Madison Lee8 Lowe, b. January 19, 1998, Ottawa Il..
44. DAVID AARON7 LOWE (JAMES ELLIS6, CLEO5, WILLIAM CLEVELAND4, LUCINDA3
MURRELL, ELIZABETH2 CARPENTER, NATHANIEL1) was born July 09, 1974 in Ottawa
Il.. He married (1) CANDICE LYNN KENNEDY March 26, 1994 in Utica, Il.. He
married (2) MONICA LYNN ALVARADO June 04, 1999 in Ottawa, Illinois, daughter of
RANDALL ALVARADO and SUSAN MCNAMARA.
Child of DAVID LOWE and CANDICE KENNEDY is:
i. Mackenzie Rae8 Lowe, b. July 15, 1994, Ottawa Il..
Endnotes
1. Broderbund Family Archive #110, Vol. 1, Ed. 6, Social Security Death Index:
U.S., Date of Import: Jan 10, 1999, Internal Ref. #1.111.6.152686.31
77.
Moses Carpenter
Moses Carpenter was fishing on the Rolling Fork River in Green County, KY with
Moses Mann's son, Asa when they were attacked by indians. Moses
Carpenter was scalped and left for dead but was able to make his way back to
Moses Mann's stockade and recovered from his wounds.
(This had to be after 1802)
Date:
8/19/98 8:24:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From:
clong77641@aol.com (CLong77641)
To:
jrcrin001@aol.com (JRCRIN001)
I also am researching the CARPENTER line. Mine start with :
JOHN CARPENTER b. ca.1772 spouse UNK d. AL
ch:
Moses b. 1793 KY m Lavinia WEST d. AL 26Feb1826
ch:
Susannah b. ca1826 Jackson Co.AL m. HICKMAN LAMBERT 18Jun1845 d. Tishomingo
Co., MS.
CHERYL LONG
CLong77641@aol.com
http://members.aol.com/clong77641/index.html1
78.
John Carpenter Jr.
Possible descendant info: Per Ann at clem@sonic.net per E-Mail message on
5-11-10-98.
Jessie Carpenter is the son of John Carpenter (B. 1786 VA) and Sarah Foster
(B. 1790 TN) son of John Carpenter SR. (b. Amherst Co. VA), son of Thomas
Carpenter II (B 1750 VA)and Sarah, son of (?) John Carpenter and Francis Brown.
Jessie was married twice. His first wife and he had 3 children:
John Carpenter (b. 1843 AK)
Nancy Carpenter (b. 1844 Ak)
Amanda Carpenter (b. 1848 AK)
His second wife was named Sarah McClendon (b. 1833). They had the
following children:
James (b. 1854)
Talina Carpenter (b. 1869)
Thomas Jefferson Carpenter (b. 1855)
Josephine Joshie Carpenter (b. 1860)
Robert Carpenter (b. 1867 )
Elijah Carpenter (b. 1857)
Marion Carpenter (?)
Got a possible lead on Sarah McClendon (Jessie Carpenter's wife). She may
connect to a Sarah McLendon (born in the same year, 1833) born in GA. The
daughter of Joel Mclendon (b.@ 1785 NC_and d. Oct.9 1866) and Sarah or
Sally White (b. 1794 and d. Apr.30, 1874. They were married Mar 3, 1814 in
Jasper Co, GA They had 7 Children:
William Victor White Mclendon (b. 1816 in Jasper C., Married on Nov 17,
1839 to Emalina Key)
Elizabeth Ann McLendon
Jacob McLendon
Joel McLendon
Moses T. McLendon
Sarah McLendon (b. 1833 in GA - also in the 1860 Chickasaw C. MS census)
Synthia McLendon
23.
George Carpenter
FATHER: Is the father Thomas b. abt 1724/1729 of ,, VA
or Thomas b. abt 1750 ,, VA, the son of the Thomas above.
Descendants of George Carpenter supplied by Charlotte Smith via email on 22 Jan 2009.
Notes for GEORGE CARPENTER:
Moved to Knox Co Tenn by 1800, Lived in Blount, Franklin, Coffeee Co , Tenn then to Anderson co Texas 1845. He died in Arkansas while on a visit there probably to brothers abt 1850. Had 5 sons and 3 daughters.
CENSUS: 1850 US Census - living with son George.
Jane Phillips
CENSUS: 1850 US Census - living with son George.
89.
John W. Carpenter
Removed in Jan 1836 to Fort Houston, Texas, Joined the Nacagoches
Volunteers and fought at Battle of San Jacinto, Killed by a Comanche Indian at Houston, Texas.
Is this the same person as refernced below?
From: wrprice
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 5:07 AM
...
Thomas Bedford Carpenter was born in 1835 and we have fairly strong linkage for him to John Wesley Carpenter. Thomas Bedford Carpenter married Nicey Bell Sharp whose family also lived at Thompson’s Creek, less than a mile from T. S. Carpenter’s 1878 home. The DNA is inconclusive in this as we had no solid DNA linkages to John Wesley Carpenter or Thomas Bedford. T. S. Carpenter’s first born son was named Thomas Bedford Carpenter adding to the circumstantial evidence that John Carpenter you mention may well have been Temple’s brother. ...
27.
Thomas Carpenter II
Y-DNA: See Group 7 of the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project.
Ann at Clem@sonic.net provided information on the Descendants of Thomas II
Carpenter. His ancestry is still of debate however.
Charlotte Smith reports that Thomas died of wounds received in the
Revolutionary War while he had returned home. Those wounds must have took over
45 years to kill him, if the information is for this Thomas.
E-MAIL: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 From: Sandy theblums@pacbell.net
I found the Land Grant concerning Thomas Carpenter that I mentioned to
you.
1) Thomas Carpenter 3 Aug 1771 Augusta Co., VA 115 acres on Potts Creek a
branch of James River.
also:
2) Thomas Carpenter 1 Aug 1772 Augusta Co. 50 acres on South side of James
River.
I believe that you asked where Potts Creek is located. Patsy had the
information available to her and she has identified the place as being
in Alleghany Co., VA . This puts Thomas in close proximity to where
John F. owned land in Greenbrier and his son Joseph married Anna Miller
in Monroe. Allegheny Co. borders both Greenbrier and Monroe Cos of
today. It would be very interesting to me to know exactly where it is
to see just how close they were.
Also of note:
Jeremiah Carpenter 1789 owns land on Elk River; additional land on
Holly Creek,of Elk R. or Halley Creek
1822 he owns land , 50 acres on Elks R. on which he has a house and
orchard 1826 land on Camp Run; ; 1833 Preston Co. Squirrrel Run (close
to Harrison); 1796 Holly Fork of Elk R. on Burton's Bottom; 1796
Randolph Co. on Holly Call;ed Potato Patch.
* I do not know if these are all the same Jeremiah or if one or more
occurances are a son.
John Carpenter (I assume John F CARPENTER)
1787 head water of HANDS CREEK Branch of NEW R. adjoining Tim Sullivan
in Greenbrier Co.,
1792 Swobe's Knob, Greenbrier
1799 ELK RIVER, Greenbrier
The Elk River covers a lot of territory , as it is mentioned in grants
as far away as Randolph Co. Where Jeremiah is. It will take a bit more
work before I can say for certain, if ever, who John F. belongs to. If
Patsy has Potts Creek position correct, Thomas is the closest to John F.
Thank you so very much for helping me, Sandy.
SEE: Logbokk M0101.
94.
Thomas O. See Notes Carpenter III
NAME: O. for Owen?
NOTE: This is not Thomas Owen Carpenter!
E-MAIL:
From: Terry Carpenter
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 5:20 PM
To: John R. Carpenter
Subject: Re: desc of Owen Carpenter b. abt 1765 of NC
Hi John,
Thomas Carpenter III of Amherst Co. VA and Greene Co. IN didn't marry Catherine Shamburger -- his wife was named Sarah. The marriage of a Thomas Carpenter, or an Owen Carpenter (both are claimed at times), to a Catherine Shamberger also isn't correct -- someone, years ago, stated that Owen Carpenter's wife was a Shamburger but when questioned for proof, stated it was because Owen was buried in the Shamburger Cemetery. As you know that isn't proof of anything, especially if the Shamburgers came along later -- the cemetery most likely started out as the Carpenter Cemetery. Nevertheless, many people repeat it as fact and it's all over the internet as though it's truth.http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=62167424
Birth: 1740 North Carolina, USA
Death: 1780 North Carolina, USA
Thomas Owen Carpenter was born 1740 in North Carolina, and died 1780 in Moore County, North Carolina. He married Catherine Shamberger. She was born 1743 in North Carolina. Notes for Thomas Owen Carpenter: While home on leave from fighting in the Revolutionary War, British Soldiers came to his home on Bear Creek, N.C., and when he came to the door, with his newly born son in his arms, the soldiers fired on him and killed he and his infant son. Both buried in same grave in Shamburger Cemetery, Moore Co., North Carolina. Fact 1: Revolutionary Soldier, buried with honors Children of Thomas Carpenter and Catherine Shamberger are: i. Jonathan Carpenter, born Abt. 1760; died Abt. 1832. ii.Solomon Carpenter, born Abt. 1760. iii. Dennis Carpenter, born Abt. 1765 in North Carolina; died Abt. 1837 in Montgomery, Alabama. He married Margaret Hahm. iv. Owen Carpenter, born 1765 in North Carolina; died Abt. 1828 in Lawrence Co., MS. v. Temple Carpenter, born 1769 in Moore County, North Carolina; died September 12, 1839 in Copiah Co., Mississippi. vi. Adam Carpenter, born July 02, 1771. vii.Infant Carpenter, born Abt. 1780.
Family links: Spouse: Catherine Shamberger Carpenter (1743 - ____) Children: Owen Carpenter (1765 - 1828)* Infant Carpenter (1780 - ____) * * Reverse Relationships:] body=[This relationship was not directly added to this memorial. Rather, it is calculated based on information added to the related person's memorial. For example: if Joe Public is linked to Jane Public as a spouse, a reciprocal link will automatically be added to Jane Public's memorial.
Burial: Shamburger Cemetery Moore County North Carolina, USA Created by: John Andrew Meyer Record added: Nov 26, 2010 Find A Grave Memorial# 62167424
Catherine Shamberger
This is probably the wrong person as spouse.
Catherine Shamberger b. 1743 NC and d. in Montgomery County, AL. At age 17 she married Thomas Owen Carpenter (b. 1740 NC d. 1780 Moore County, NC b. Buried in Shamburger Cemetery, near the town of Star, Moore County, North Carolina) in 1760 in NC.
Death of Thomas Owen Carpenter and infant son.
lioneljudy55added this on 1 Mar 2010
This is a true story. I have researched this and found that there is a Shamburger family cemetery located in Moore County, North Carolina. It is not far from Dover Baptist Church in Star, North Carolina. It is on private land and has never been recognized or added to the state cemetery lists. It is old and overgrown now with a stone fence all around it that was built about 1927. It covers about 1/2 acre with about 50-75 graves in it. There is now no road to it as it was done away with many years ago. Only a trail now to it. Not far from it is a plaque in the ground stating that on this spot Thomas Owen Carpenter and his infant son were killed by Cornwallace's soldiers. Supposedly this is where his home stood too. I spoke to the family that ownes the land now and they have validated all this to me. The cemetery was on the land when they purchased it many years ago. They used to keep it up, but as they are now up in years, are unable to do so.
Subject
Comment
This is a true story. I have researched this and found that there is a Shamburger family cemetery located in Moore County, North Carolina. It is not far from Dover Baptist Church in Star, North Carolina. It is on private land and has never been recognized or added to the state cemetery lists. It is old and overgrown now with a stone fence all around it that was built about 1927. It covers about 1/2 acre with about 50-75 graves in it. There is now no road to it as it was done away with many years ago. Only a trail now to it. Not far from it is a plaque in the ground stating that on this spot Thomas Owen Carpenter and his infant son were killed by Cornwallace's soldiers. Supposedly this is where his home stood too. I spoke to the family that ownes the land now and they have validated all this to me. The cemetery was on the land when they purchased it many years ago. They used to keep it up, but as they are now up in years, are unable to do so.
Revolutionary Soldier, buried with honors.
lioneljudy55added this on 12 Feb 2008
While home on leave from fighting in the Revolutionary War, British Soldiers came to his home on Bear Creek, N. C., and, when he came to the door with his newlyborn son in his arms, the soldiers fired on him and killed he and his infant son. Both buried in same grave in Shamburger Cemetery, montgomery Co., North Carolina.
FYI:
lioneljudy55 is active on Ancestry.com (USA & AU) and Mudia (Ancestry variant). See:
96.
Rebecca Carpenter
MARRIAGE:
http://genealogy-by-anne.com/gen/history/amherst-history/amherst-marriage-records.html
Genealogy by Ann
Marriage Records from Amherst, Virginia through 1850
Marriage Dates for marriages recorded in Amherst County up until and through 1850. This list probably does not have all of the marriages recorded in Amherst Count, but it has quite a few. This list is order by groom last name.
Groom: JAMES PRATT ; Bride: REBECCA CARPENTER ; Date: 11 Jun 1803
28.
Benjamin Carpenter
SEE: Carpenter and Related Family Historical Journal, Vol. 5, Winter
1994/1995, Number 8, page 519, documents his service in the Revolutiion.
BIRTH: Either VA or England
PENSION: See Books, Articles, Wills & such: RIN 20122 Benjamin Carpenter Pension Application.pdf
From the Journal of Illinois State Historical Society, Vol. 8, Number 3, Oct.
1915, page 441, as reported by Richard Charles Carpenter, tells of Sgt. John
Carpenter's brothers Benjamin Carpenter's service. "Benjamin Carpenter was a
native of Virginia, born in 1753. He enlisted for four years in Amherst
County, Virginia. His Company joined the Army of Lafayette and he was present
at the surrender of Cornwallis. He came to Illinois and resided in Schuyler
County where he died." (532156) Illinois Certificate #22315.
John L. Carpenter of New Hampshire indicates that this BENJAMIN CARPENTER,
born Abt. 1756; died September 18, 1829, Kingston,RI; m. THANKFUL THOMPSON.
However the death date listed above is the one I have for Thankful Thompson who
was born abt. 1756. Abit of confusion which needs clarification.
E-MAIL: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 From: "Gene Westover"
Hello,
I have 12 more pages of this family from Hezekiah Carpenter to today.
1. Is this the kind of info you could/would use in your CD, do you want it?
2. Does this family fit into any Carpenter line?
3. Can you send me any info or contact that can help me make a connection?
Thank you. Gene Westover
*Benjamin Carpenter Born 1/Mar/1755 Rockfish River, Amherst Co. VA Died
12/Jun/1840 Knox Co. IL (Rev War soldier) in Abt 1781 in Amherst Co.VA Married Sarah ?
*Benjamin Carpenter Born 1785 VA Died Before 1820 in a Mississippi River Boating Accident.
Married Melea Shook Born 5/Jan/1786 TN Died 19/Apr/1853 Jefferson Co. IL
*Abner Carpenter Born 1781 VA Died 22/Apr/1853 Snicarte,Macon Co. IL. Buried in Mason Co. IL
Died of Diarrhoea (Diarrhea) IN 1840 Abner bought land in Snicarte Cass Co. IL. About 1798 Married ?
In Abt.1816 probably in Overton Co. TN Married Mary Marshall Born 1813 NC Died 9/Sep/1855 Snicarte,Mason Co. IL Died of Pneumonia (Lived to 50 years of age (fron John Abner (Benefit Certifigate))
*John Carpenter Born Abt.1800 TN In Abt.1830 in Overton Co. TN Married Sarah ?
Born to them 8 Children:
*George W. Carpenter Born Abt. 1805 TN In Abt. 1824 Married Anna ? probably in IL
Born Abner and Mary ?(12) Children:
*Nancy Jane Carpenter Born Nov/1817 in Jackson Co. TN Died 18/Jul/1858 Brownville, Nemaha Co NE Territory
On 13/Jul/1934 probably in Overton Co.TN Married George Nettles Smith Born 25/Jan/1817 Barren Co. TN
Died 1879/80 Sonora Atchison Co. MO
*Benjamin Carpenter Born Abt. 1820 Jackson Co. TN In Abt. 1835 Married Lucinda Busby
*Caherine Carpenter Born Abt.1822 Jackson Co. TN
*Elizabeth Carpenter Born 8/Jul/1824 Jackson Co. TN Died 27/Nov/1908 Humboldt Richardson Co. NE Married W. C. Vaughn
*Willian T. Carpenter Born Abt.1826 Overton Co. TN In Abt. 1844 Married Emeline
*Ludica Carpenter Born About 1830 Overton Co. TN Married Hiram Ray
*Hezekiah (Hesicar) Carpenter Born 16/Sept/1834 Overton Co. TN (Farmer) Died 14/Jan/1908 Humboldt NE Buried Lynchburg Cemetery. Hezekiah Carpenter moved to IL in 1844 with his parents.
On 16/Jun/1859 in Candlersville Illinois Married Susan Hickman Born 4/Mar/1841 Overton Co. TN Died 10/Jun/1914 Humboldt NE Buried Lynchburg Cemetery
*Elisha Carpenter Born Abt. 1836 On 31/Jul/1836 in Masom Co. IL Married Shrah Ann E. Whitley
SEE: Web Page at:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~adcarpenter/users/problems.htm
Nov 09, 2000
Some Problems of our Family descent from the William Carpenters of New York.
Some of the problems stem from there being two Benjamin Carpenters from the region of Amherst Co., Va. around 1780.
Early records are indeed scant and early regional historians confused the two. It appears as though geographical and chronological proximity constituted a degree of proof sufficient to support a possible family relationship. For the sake of clarity, let me distinguish them as Benjamin #1 and Benjamin #2.
What is known about Benjamin #1 (Not our ancestor):
Born: March 01, 1755 Rockfish River, Amherst Co., VA
Died: 1840 Knox County, IL
Wife: Sarah ?
Known service: From the Journal of Illinois State Historical
Society, Vol. 8, Number 3, Oct. 1915, page 441, as reported by Richard Charles Carpenter, tells of Sgt. John
Carpenter's brothers Benjamin Carpenter's service. "Benjamin Carpenter was a native of Virginia, born in 1753.
He enlisted for four years in Amherst County, Virginia. His Company joined the Army of Lafayette and he
was present at the surrender of Cornwallis. He came to Illinois and resided in Schuyler County where
he died." (532156) Illinois Certificate #22315.
What is known about Benjamin #2...our ancestor
Born: 1730-1750 Probably in England
Died: 1832 Amherst Co., Va.
Wife: Mary (?)
Known service:
From "Amherst County , Virginia in the Revolution", by Lenora H. Sweeny, Clearfield Co., 1998 comes the following:
In the same publication, under TYLER, JOHN -- .... Eaton Carpenter, son of Benjamin Carpenter, testified that his father was drafted in the Amherst Militia, Siege of York & Capture of Cornwallis. He heard his father say that John Tyler was in the same service. .... May 19, 1846, Col. George W. Higginbotham, Amherst co., Va., aged 63, "Recollects distinctly that in looking over his father's Revolutionary papers, he came across several muster
rolls containing the names of soldiers that composed the several companies that were in service under deponents father Col. or major Higginbotham, who was an officer in the Revolutionary War of the above grades; deponent has heard his father say that he was in service against the Indians at Charlottesville, Williamsburg, & Yorktown. Deponent say that the Captain's name whose roll the name of John Tyler was on, but it is very clear in his recollection of having seen the names of John Tyler & Benj. Carpenter on the above rolls that were in possession of his father, Col. James Higginbotham. The muster rolls are at the court house or in Kentucky."
Additional proofs:
Ref.: Amherst Co., VA 9293755496.029ab ... an abstract of all items in wills from 1761-1919, Vol. 1 108 Benj. Carpenter 8:208 June 24, 1825; May 21, 1832. Wits.: Geo. W. and Absalom Higginbotham and L. Cash. Eaton Carpenter and Cornl. Sale qualified Bdm.: Dabney Sandidge and Wiley Campbell. Ux, Mary; son, Austin--Piney Mt. tract; son Eaton. My four children Jas., Hensley; Austin; and Mary Rogers ux of Wm. Rogers, Exrs.:
Cornl. Sale and my son, Eaton Carpenter.
8:226 Inv., June 2, 1832. Geo. W. Higginbotham; Absalom Higginbotham; Chas. &
Wm. Tucker. Total $2381.75 [ Geo. W. Higgingotham's signature is quite clear on the will as a witness.]
Some of our family historians think that perhaps the militia rosters were subsequently taken to Kentucky. A recent paid search of the W. Va. State Library turned up nothing new. As far as I can determine our Benjamin, of yet unidentified father, cannot be proved to be a participant in The Revolutionary War although, based
upon testimony of his son Eaton, he did serve. My information is that records for the county militiamen/women were not well kept. This was a free-for-all and anyone who wanted to could fire a few shots at the British_it was open season.
It is not my purpose to discredit any of our family historians. Rather, it is to their credit that they spent a great deal of time and money in diligent efforts to uncover facts as they might exist. If I did not have a computer and unlimited access to Internet resources and contacts, I too would have been somewhat forced to accept the
prior history used by James and Raymond. I can appreciate the frustration Raymond must have had in accumulating his information, even though he took a calculated guess (in my opinion) by making the N.Y. connection. Genealogy is not an exact science nor is the solution of jigsaw puzzles.
Haven't we all had a piece that looked so much like a fit that with a little forcing it would work? As in cards, it is not possible to play our best game with a few cards missing.
No proof has been produced to support the linkage of our Benjamin to the N.Y. Carpenters. That linkage requires a disregarded of some anecdotal evidence supplied by Elsie (Drummond) Carpenter who related that the grandsons of Austin Carpenter said Austin told them that his father, Benjamin, was born in England, came to America when in his teens, and he, Austin, was born in Queen and King Co., Va.. Although his writing is rife with prior history confusing the two Benjamin's, similar statements were related by Col. William Carpenter. Although the Col.
repeated some of the prior errors, he did relate a conversation, which must be taken as supportive of the information related by Elsie Drummond.
Looking at the geography, timing, and distances involved, it appears highly unlikely that our Benjamin was born in Musketa Cove, N.Y. as some have it. If the birth date attributed to Joseph Sr. is correct, then he was in his mid-sixties when Benjamin was born. Why would he and his then wife have traveled all the way back to
N.Y. to have a baby? Possible, yes...probable, no. Some of the numbers indicate that Joseph became a father at age 16. No proof has ever been produced that the supposed Francis Elizabeth Dames, as a wife of Joseph, ever existed. The biggest problem I have is that I can find no hard evidence that our Benjamin was the son of Joseph. In fact, Benjamin appears to be tacked on to the end of the list of Joseph and (?)'s children. Truly a child born out of season if those figures are correct.
Early genealogists mixed our Benjamin with Benjamin s/o Thomas and assigned a first wife, Sarah, to him who in truth was the daughter-in-law of Thomas and the spouse of Benjamin s/o Thomas. There is no evidence that my Benjamin ever had any wife except Mary as proved in his will. Raymond George accepted some of the
early works reflecting Sarah as a first wife. A first wife would have made Eaton and Enoch half brothers to Austin who passed the name of Eaton to his children. It seems unlikely, though certainly possible, that one would name his children after a half brother. I'm going with Mary as his only proven wife.
In view of somewhat sketchy information, I am concluding that our Benjamin came from England when he was in his teens and settled in Queen and King County, Va. and migrated to Amherst County after Austin was born. Unfortunately, records may never have existed and if the did, they were probably destroyed. That position is taken in view of the following historical note.
"1864 March Co1one1 Uric Dahlgren and 120 Union troops enter King and Queen County and skirmish with the 9th Virginia Cavalry and Home Guard units at Bruirigton. As Dahlgren's troops move down the River Road, they are ambushed near Stevensville and Mantapilce and Colonel Dahlgren is killed. In retaliation, the King and Queen Court House, Clerk's Office, jail, several stores and homes belonging to Robert Pollard, County Clerk, and William Martin, are burned by Union troops stationed at Gloucester Point. Tradition holds that the tavern was spared because the troops were told someone was lying ill upstairs with smallpox causing them to flee the area, but that in reality no one with smallpox had been in the building."
So_we may never know!
Alton Carpenter.
E-MAIL: From: "Jack Frosty" 10/11/2001 10:49 AM
Thanks for the file. Here is a little bit more info that I didn't see in your files that you might like to have. I'm still trying to find Benjamin's father for real and not a guess. Has any progress been made there? Benjamin and Mary had 8 children of whom I am a descendant of their son Richard. Sara and Benjamin only had the two sons, Enoch and Eaton Benjamin Carpenter. JLC
HEAD OF FAMILIES IN VIRGINIA, 1783 - AMHERST COUNTY
File submitted for use in the USGenWeb Archives by:
Sharon Barrett Kennedy
Transcriber's Note: This document has been transcribed as accurately as possible;
the apparent errors in spelling were on the record I copied from--SBK.
NAME OF HEAD OF FAMILY WHITE BLACK
Carpenter, Benjamin 5 -
Carpenter, Sarah 6 -
Carpenter, John 4 -
Carpenter, Thomas 6 2
Mays, Joseph 7 11
Mays, James 6 4
Mays, John 10 2
Mays, Benjamin 4 -
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Carpenters of Virginia
What happened to Amherst Co.? Was it merged with Augusta
County?
Thanks! Alton
Subject: Botetourt Co VAGenWeb QueryPage
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 05:19:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Freddie Spradlin
To: adcarpenter@earthlink.net
Amherst Co is still in existence, north of the James River and Bedford/Appomattox Counties. It was formed in 1761 from Albemarle County, and was divided in 1808 to form Nelson County.
Regards, Freddie S.
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From "Amherst County , Virginia in the Revolution", by Lenora H. Sweeny, Clearfield Co., 1998 comes the following:
(( See note on Benjamin
In the same publication, under TYLER, JOHN -- .... Eaton Carpenter, son of Benjamin Carpenter, testified that his father was drafted in the Amherst Militia, Siege of York & Capture of Cornwallis. He heard his father say that
John Tyler was in the same service.
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Ref.: Tennessee Genealogical Records
Carpenter, Benjamine, revolutionary soldier; 428 acres; 14 July, 1820. No. 440
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Ref.: Amherst Co., VA 9293755496.029ab ... an abstract of all items in wills from 1761-1919, Vol. 1
108 Benj. Carpenter
8:208 June 24, 1825; May 21, 1832. Wits.: Geo. W. and Absalom Higginbotham and L. Cash.
Eaton Carpenter and Cornl. Sale qualified Bdm.: Dabney Sandidge and Wiley Campbell. Ux, Mary; son,
Austin--Piney Mt. tract; son Eaton. My four children Jas., Hensley; Austin; and Mary Rogers ux of Wm. Rogers,
Exrs.: Cornl. Sale and my son, Eaton Carpenter.
8:226 Inv., June 2, 1832. Geo. W. Higginbotham; Absalom Higginbotham; Chas. & Wm. Tucker. Total $2381.75
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Ref.: DAR Patriot Index, Centennial Edition, Part 1,
Carpenter: Benjamin: b ---d a 5-21-1832 Va. M (1) Sarah ---- (2) Mary Sol VA
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Ref.: MARRIAGE BONDS AND OTHER MARRIAGE RECORDS OF AMHERST CO., VIRGINIA 1763-1800 929.3755 A515 Sw
P. 16 Nov 3, 1791 - Hensley CARPENTER to Rhody Mays, spinster, Benjamin Carpenter and Robert
Mays sureties. certificate of marriage by the Rev. Charles Crawford (MR)
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MARRIAGES OF AMHERST COUNTY, VIRGINIA IN REGISTER FORM 1801-1854 929.3755 A515
P. 9C 23 Dec., - Polly Carpenter to Wm. Rogers; Surety Benjamin Carpenter
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See: Deeds, Amherst County, VA. Courthouse, page 318, BKE 1778-1785, Benjamin Carpenter and Ux, Sarey, AC, to James Littrell £40, 70 acres on branch of Short Creek and joining Littrell lines: Chiswell Witt: Abner Witt,
Charles Endes, John Witt, Jr. in March of 1789 Benjamin Carpenter owned property near branches of Thresher's
Creek and near land of JOHN T. WILSFORD.
Wills, Amherst County, Virginia, pg 50 - 51
Benj. Carpenter -- Book 8 page 208 -- June 24, 1825, written; May 21, 1832, probated. Witnesses: Geo. W. and
Absalom Higginbotham; Stephen P. and Lewellen T. (?) Cash. Proved by Absalom Higginbotham and L.
Sandridge and Wiley Campbell. Ux, Mary; son, Austin -- Piney Mountain track; son, Eaton. My 4 children; Jas.,
Hensley, Austin, and Mary Rogers, uxc of Wm. Rogers. Executors: Cornl. Sale and my son, Eaton Carpenter.
Book 8, page 226 -- Inventory -- June 2, 1832. Geo. W. Higginbotham, Absalom Higginbotham, Chas. and Wm.
Tucker. Total: $2,381.75.
Wills of Amherst County Virginia, page 50 - 51
Eaton Carpenter -- Book 12, page 65 -- April 1, 1848, written; September 1, 1848. Witnesses; J. Powell, Chas.
Tucker, Cornl. Sale and proved by them. Slaves to be freed and estate sold to pay expenses to some free state
and division among them. Executor; friend, Edmd. P. Tucker. Administrator's Bond is on Page 143 for Tucker.
Book 12, page 195 - Inventory -- September 26, 1848 -- $2, 430 -- 1,215 acres Cornl. Sale; Absalom Higginbotham,
Dabney Sandridge; Geo,. W. Higginbotham.
Book 12, page 298 -- Administrator's account by Tucker, September 29, 1848. Recorded: June 1, 1850. Total:
$431.88.
Book 13, page 14 -- Administrator's account by Tucker from August 5, 1850. Total: $1,920.00. Recorded:
September 20, 1852
Eaton died 2848 in Amhurst, Amhurst County, Va.
Enoch Carpenter
1810 Census record of Amherst County, Virginia list Enoch Carpenter, head of household, 1 male under 10 years
of age, 1 male of sixteen and under 26, 1 male of 45 and upwards, 2 females under 10 years of age, 1 female of 26
and under 25.
Enoch Carpenter headed a caravan of thirteen wagons to Franklin County Alabama after 1812.
Thanks again
Lee
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CHILD: Is Jesse his son or his brother John's son? My guess is that he belongs to Benjamin. Why? Sgt. John Carpenter-20121 has a documented family. Benjamin does not.
PRF
Benjamin CARPENTER Compact Disc #35 Pin #76602
Benjamin CARPENTER Compact Disc #105 Pin #985544
Benjamin Carpenter Compact Disc #135 Pin #3302316
29.
Benjamin Carpenter
FAMILY: Possibly 2 families merged together? Both with a father named Benjamin?
FAMILIES SPLIT - See RIN 5457 and RIN 127830
BOOK: UPDATE OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE NEW ENGLAND CARPENTER FAMILY OF ENGLISH ORIGIN - THE VIRGINIA / WEST VIRGINIA BRANCH - SOME DESCENDANTS OF JOSEPH CARPENTER - PIONEER OF THE JACKSON RIVER - MOWREY"S VERSION.
BY TERRY LEE CARPENTER AND PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
PRO BONO PUBLICO - PRIVATELY PUBLISHED, DOVER, OHIO, 1997.
BY PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
Page 35; "Researching the Virginia / West Virginia Carpenters is a frustrating
undertaking." And Y-DNA research is reporting some are Group 2 and many are Group 7. See the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project.
http://carpentercousins.com/
Benjamin was married twice. Once in 1770 to Mary then to Sarah. Sarah was
the second. AF lists Sarah with 8 children (b. 1770 to 1780).
AF lists Mary with 2 children (1776 & 1778). Children are duplicative.
"The Carpenter and Related Family Historical Journal" Vol. 5, Winter
1994/1995, Number 8, page 535-536, Article by Frank Masterson Carpenter
(born 1931) were used to clarify which child went to which family.
WILL: Will of Benjamin Carpenter, 1825, did not contain names of several
children, who probably were died before 1825.
On March 1, 1779 Benjamin Carpenter bought 140 acres from Samuel Woods and his
wife Mary Woods. Was his wife Mary a Woods?
He was a Patriot. He was drafted in 1781 and served in Amherst County, VA
Militia at Yorktown surrender of Cornwallis.
SEE: Shenandoah Valley in the Revolution by Boutwell Dunlap which puts this
Benjamin and Thomas in this family. See: Deeds, Amherst County, VA,
Courthouse, page 318, BKE 1778-1785, Benjamin Carpenter and Ux, Sarey, A.C. to
James Littrell L40 70 acres on branch of Short Creek and joining Littrill
lines: Chiswell Witt: Abner Witt, Charles Endes, John Witt, Jr., in March of
1789 Benjamin Carpenter owned property near branches of Thresher's Creek and
near land of John T. Wilsford.
BOOK: See page 36-37 of the Mowrey 1997 book. See book information
below: This Benjamin is not listed as child in that record.
UPDATE OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE NEW ENGLAND CARPENTER FAMILY OF ENGLISH
ORIGIN - THE VIRGINIA / WEST VIRGINIA BRANCH - SOME DESCENDANTS OF JOSEPH
CARPENTER - PIONEER OF THE JACKSON RIVER - MOWREY"S VERSION.
BY TERRY LEE CARPENTER AND PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
PRO BONO PUBLICO - PRIVATELY PUBLISHED, DOVER, OHIO, 1997.
BY PAUL THOMAS MOWREY.
WARNING:
E-MAIL: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 From: Alton Carpenter
To: John Carpenter Hi John:
I have unwittingly published what I now believe to be
erroneous information concerning the origins of my ancestor Benjamin
Carpenter, of Amherst Co., Va.. I used information which I have traced
back to Raymond Carpenter in an article which was published in the
Carpenter and Related Family Journal. I have examined all of the
available evidence and am in agreement with Terry L. Carpenter that
there is more information to declaim than to support the premise that
Benjamin was a member of the Joseph Carpenter family from New York.
Also, I believe, based upon his will, that my Benjamin had only one
wife, Mary (?), as his will states. The first wife, Sarah, attributed
to him by prior historians was in truth the wife of the Benjamin who
died in Ill.. Eaton and Enoch were full brothers to my Hensley Sr..
As far as I can determine, my Benjamin arrived in America from England
while he was in his teens, resided in Queen and King Co., Va., and later
moved to Amherst Co. Recollections of near kin of Austin Carpenter
recorded by Elsie (Drummond) Carpenter and other descendants of James,
although anecdotal, are weighted heavier than the unsupported
connections to the N.Y. Carpenters.
As soon as I correct a few dates, I will put revised files on my web
sites. I wanted to let you know this as early as possible so you can
consider changes in Carpenters 2000 release. Please accept my apology
for any inconvenience this may have caused. Again, thanks for your
help and participation.
Best Regards, Alton D. Carpenter
MARRIAGE: The above E-MAIL indicates two Benjamin Carpenter families merged
together. When further information comes forth they will be split.
JRC 9/2000. FAMILIES SPLIT - See RIN 5457 and RIN 127830
Sarah
NAME: unknown if CARPENTER was a married name, maiden name or what. It was removing assumed it was married name.
110.
Eaton Carpenter
AFN MTLF-9K (B. ABT 1773) and AFN T7KJ-MK (B. ABT 1776) appear to be
the same person.
He reportedly never married, but lived to be an old man and left Enoch
Carpenter and his other half brothers and half sisters in his Final Will and
Testament recorded in the Court House of Amherst County, VA. Per Frank
Masterson Carpenter in the "Carpenter and Related Family Historical Journal"
Vol. 5, Winter 1994/1995, Number 8, page 535.
112.
Mary Polly Carpenter
AFN MTLD-KS (B. 1776 to Mary) and AFN T7KP-5T (B. 1776 to Sarah) appear to be
the same person. See Father's note.
She migrated after 1812 with her husband to Franklin County, Alabama in
a caravan of thirteen wagons headed by Enoch Carpenter. She and her husband
then moved on to Livingston County, Tennessee where numerous kin of the name of
Rogers reside to this day.
Bailey Rollins
NAME: AF has BOLLING. Frank Masterson Carpenter (b. 1931) reports the name
as ROLLINS.
!MARRIAGE: AF has 17 Jan 1797 and Frank Masterson reports 7 Jan 1797.
116.
Benjamin Carpenter
Subject: Benjamin CARPENTER - SC (maybe NC?) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999
From: "J. R. Carpenter"
I am looking for any information on Benjamin CARPENTER (born ca 1770-80,
died ca 1836-1840 Dale Co. AL). According to oral tradition in one branch of
descendants, his name was Samson (perhaps Samson was his middle name?).
Benjamin Carpenter married ca 1806 to Milly --?--. They resided in SC ca
1808-1816, in Dale Co. AL in 1830, and bought land on 5 Jan 1836 in Dale Co.
AL. Milly and children resided in Dale Co. AL in 1840 and in Coffee Co. AL
in 1850. No further mention of Benjamin after the land sale that I've seen.
His son, my ancestor, Sampson A. CARPENTER (born ca 1816 in SC), married ca
1838 to Nancy MAYBERRY (born ca 1817 AL). They resided in Coffee Co. AL in
1850 and 1860. There is an established MABRY line in Union Co SC, coming
from Surry Co VA but through the Warren Co area of NC (near Nash Co). My
Nancy may be from a Franklin Co GA branch of the Mabrys.
Benjamin's family may have been in NC before SC, but that is unproven. I
thought at one time that his father was Thomas "Jack" of Nash Co NC, but I
have not been able to prove it. There were some PA Dutch Zimmermans who came
to middle NC in the 1750s, eventually moving south until in Old Tryon Co,
with some of this line being buried as Carpenters in Blacksburg SC. I have
been unable to prove any descent from these people as well.
I have info on Benjamin's descendents, if anyone is interested.
Thanks, Rick Carpenter.E-MAIL: Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 From: "Tiffany Shoop"
Organization: Tiffany's International Web Designs, Inc.
Hi Carpenter Cousins,
I'm new to this list and start by telling you who were my Carpenters. My
gggrandmother was Sarah Elizabeth CARPENTER b. Nov 13, 1838 AL d. Oct 01, 1912
daughter of William Bailey CARPENTER and Rebecca Savannah DONALDSON. Sarah
married George Washington NELSON b. Feb 08, 1824 AL d. May 19, 1892 AL. Both
are buried in the Antioch Cem. Coffee Co., AL. I'm listing more info below. I
probably have cousins on this list, I haven't even met yet, looking forward to
that.
I'm trying to find who were the parents of Benjamin Samson CARPENTER and what
was the last name of Milly C. ? his wife., Sarah's grandparents;
Please see below and let me know if you recognize any links in your
genealogical lines...
Please feel free to contact me directly too if you wish at shoops@bigsky.net
Thanks, Tiffany.
HERE'S MY CARPENTER INFO BELOW:
The Carpenters:
Benjamin Samson Carpenter was born 1771, and died in Dale County Alabama in
1836. He married Milly C abt 1800 probably in South Carolina. She was born
1780 in South Carolina, and died after 1850. Their children were,
i. William Bailey Carpenter b 1808 South Carolina; d October 30, 1883 in
Alabama.
ii. John G Carpenter b 1810 South Carolina, Settled near Pine Level Alabama
iii. Samson A Carpenter b 1816 South Carolina
iv. Nancy Carpenter b 1821 Alabama ( Alabama was carved from the Mississippi
territory, and became a state in 1819, and Govenor William Wyatt Bibb
commissioned its first census in 1820). Nancy would have been one of the
first members of our family to be born in the state.
v. Benjamin Carpenter b 1824 Covington County Alabama m Emily Trenatham Trever
abt 1844, in Alabama.
vi Holley Carpenter b 1826. Alabama
William Bailey Carpenter was my gg grandfather born 1808 in South Carolina,
died October 30 1883 in Alabama. He married Rebecca Savannah Donaldson abt
1835. She was born abt 1815 in South Carolina, died April 1884 in Alabama.
their children were:
i. Samson Harmon Carpender b May 26, 1833 Alabama; d Unknown
ii. Benjamin David Carpenter b November 25, 1834 Coffee County Alabama; d
October 13, 1919
iii. Emily Carpenter b February 28, 1836, Alabama
iv. Sarah Elizabeth Carpenter b October 28, 1838, Alabama; d October 1, 1912
Alabama
v. Nancy Carpenter b December 6, 1841 Alabama m Bill Bracken
vi. Susan R Carpenter b March 04, 1843 Alabama
vii. William Carpenter b January 18, 1845 Alabama
viii. Suffronia Carpenter b January 19, 1847 Alabama
ix. Martha Carpenter b March 8, 1849 Alabama m Eabin E Baldwin
x. Giles B Carpenter b February 22, 1853, Alabama d October 10, 1929 Butler
County Alabama
xi. Daniel Dozier "Dosh" Carpenter b October 31, 1854 Alabama m Ophelia
Stewart
xii. Carey C Carpenter b November 7, 1856
Note:
John J Carpenter son of John G Carpenter was a member of the 33rd Alabama
Infantry Regiment, who survived the Civil War. His brother Benjamin R
Carpenter was also a member of the 33rd Alabama, and died September 2, 1862 in
Enterprise Mississippi Hospital. Benjamin's wife was Armanda. Samson Harmon
Carpenter was the brother of Sarah Elizabeth Carpenter my ggrandmother. Samson
H was in the 33rd Alabama Infantry, his wife Eliza claimed his body on the 16th
of March 1863. Sarah Elizabeth's Husband was George Washington Nelson, he was
also a member of the 33rd Alabama Infantry Company F. G W lost his arm in the
Battle of Atlanta July 22, 1864 and recovered in the Floyd House, a Hotel in
Macon Ga that was converted into a Confederate Hospital.
Sarah Elizabeth Carpenter b October 28, 1838 Alabama d October 1, 1912 Coffee
County Alabama m George Washington Nelson abt 1855 . G W was born February 8,
1824 d May 19, 1892 Coffee County Alabama.
Note: G W and Sarah are both burried antioch Cemetery
Children of Sarah and G W Nelson are;
i. William C Hall b 1855 Rose Hill Alabama d ? Kinston Alabama. ( why did he
go by the name of Hall. the 1860 Census has an (m) designation by his name.
The (m) designation indicates milato which could be according to the census
taker Indian or African American blood. According to some people the wife of
William Bailey Carpenter, Rebecca Savanah Donaldson, my gg grandmother was
Cherokee Indian. I have a picture of their daughter,Sarah Elizabeth my g
grandmother who would have been half indian if this is true. She certainly
looks like a half indian.
(continued)
ii Emily M Nelson b 1858
iii. James M "Jim" Nelson b December 27, 1860 d December 7, 1950 Coffee County
Alabama
iv. Mary Nelson b December 27, 1860
v. Zilpha Nelson b June 1864 d 1946
vi. Benjamin David "Buck" Nelson November 8, 1867 d April 25, 1944 ( your
ggrandfather)
vii. Joannah "Bama" Nelson b November 19, 1880 d January 1, 1964
viii.Savannah "Nancy" Nelson b 1869 d 1946
ix. Aquilla "Qullie" Nelson b January 8, 1871 d March 11, 1960 ( my
grandfather)
x. Georgiann Nelson b November 18, 1873 d February 6, 1957
xi. Victoria "Babe" Nelson b 1876 d January 1962
xii. Elwood Nelson b November 8, 1878 d March 25, 1958
xiii.Mannie B Nelson b November 8, 1878 d December 4, 1960
117.
Clarkey Carpenter
Frank Masterson Carpenter (b. 1931) reports that Clarkey belongs in this
family.
http://genealogy-by-anne.com/gen/history/amherst-history/amherst-marriage-records.html
Genealogy by Ann
Marriage Records from Amherst, Virginia through 1850
Marriage Dates for marriages recorded in Amherst County up until and through 1850. This list probably does not have all of the marriages recorded in Amherst Count, but it has quite a few. This list is order by groom last name.
Groom: WILLIAM BALL ; Bride: CLARKY CARPENTER ; Date: 22 Jul 1806