Nelson was evidently in a lot of trouble, but was rarely convicted.
1. Shot at Schuyler Lakes on or about 14 Jul 1874 in Madison Co., KY. Hewas found not guilty in Sep 1877.
2. On 20 Sep 1882, supposedly gave liquor to John Bailey. Sep 1883 foundnot guilty.
3. On 20 Sep 1882, supposedly was carrying a concealed weapon. Sep 1883was found not guilty.
4. In Aug of 1883, Nelson and Joe Carpenter (Joe is either his nephew orcousin), Wm Isaacs, and Wallace Hunter accused and found guilty in 1885 offiring off guns and pistols on and near a public highway. John Alcorn was a surety when bond posted.
5. On 23 Nov 1869, Nelson fined $50 on weapons charge in Jackson Co., KY.
6. On 2 Sep 1884, Nelson was charged with murder in Jackson Co., KY.1850 North District, Rockcastle Co, KY census Pg 192B has 1848/49.
CENSUS: 1880 US Census
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
Nelson CARPENTER Self M Male W 32 KY Farmer KY KY
Jane CARPENTER Wife M Female W 25 KY Keeps House KY KY
Nancy CARPENTER Dau S Female W 10 KY At Home KY KY
Joseph CARPENTER Son S Male W 8 KY At Home KY KY
Sarah CARPENTER Dau S Female W 6 KY At Home KY KY
Ann CARPENTER Dau S Female W 3 KY At Home KY KY
Margaret CARPENTER Dau S Female W 4M KY At Home KY KY
Source Information:
Census Place E.D. 75, Madison, Kentucky
Family History Library Film 1254431
NA Film Number T9-0431
Page Number 471C
1870 Estill Co., KY Census Pg 604B is possibly her father Albert andherself.
1910 Jackson Co., KY census ED 98-8-B has middle initial as B.
Marriage record to Jack Carpenter said father born in Jackson Co., KY andmother in VA.
Had total of 5 kids as of 1900. Only 2 were still alive. Possibly marriedonce before Sallie.
Death cert had 1849 as birth year but he was not on 1850 census. 1900census has year as 1851, so I went with this.
Died of tuberculosis which he had for 2 years.
Obviously in an unmarked grave.
CENSUS: 1880 US Census
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
Martin CARPENTER Self M Male W 31 KY Farmer KY KY
Salie CARPENTER Wife M Female W 23 MO Keeping House KY KY
Paulina CARPENTER Dau S Female W 7 KY KY MO
Elizabeth CARPENTER Dau S Female W 5 KY KY MO
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Source Information:
Census Place E.D. 49, Coyle, Jackson, Kentucky
Family History Library Film 1254421
NA Film Number T9-0421
Page Number 504D
1910 Madison Co., KY census ED 71-5-B has year at 1850.
1920 Bear Wallow Madison Co., KY census Pg 136A has year as 1857.
1870 Madison Co., KY census Pg 144 has year as 1849.
CENSUS: 1880 US Census
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
Mack WILLIS Self M Male W 35 KY Works On Farm KY KY
Caroline WILLIS Wife M Female W 25 KY Keeps House KY KY
James WILLIS Son S Male W 2 KY At Home KY KY
Edward WILLIS Son S Male W 2M KY At Home KY KY
Nancy CARPENTER MotherL W Female W 74 KY At Home KY KY (wife's step-mother!)
Source Information:
Census Place E.D. 75, Madison, Kentucky
Family History Library Film 1254431
NA Film Number T9-0431
Page Number 471C
In Madison Co., KY March 1885, James was accused of carry a concealedweopon.
1900 census said had a total of 9 kids, 8 still living. Matt Lakes calledone of the girls Alma.1880 Madison Co., KY census Pg 470A has year as 1858.
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
James CARPENTER Self M Male W 22 KY Farmer KY KY
Jane CARPENTER Wife M Female W 22 KY Keeps House KY KY
Edward CARPENTER Son S Male W 6 KY At Home KY KY
Nancy CARPENTER Dau S Female W 4 KY At Home KY KY
Sarah CARPENTER Dau S Female W 2 KY At Home KY KY
Source Information:
Census Place E.D. 75, Madison, Kentucky
Family History Library Film 1254431
NA Film Number T9-0431
Page Number 470A1900 Madison Co., KY census Pg 147A has Mar of 1854.
1870 Madison Co., KY census Pg 314 has year as 1856.
1900 Madison Co., KY census Pg 147A has year as 1860.
Father not proved, but by process of elimination, the best fit.
CENSUS: 1880 US Census
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
Cyrus CARPENTER Self M Male W 35 KY Laborer KY KY
Mariah CARPENTER Wife M Female W 40 KY Keeping House KY KY
Alvin CARPENTER Son S Male W 18 KY Laborer KY KY
Joseph CARPENTER Son S Male W 17 KY Laborer KY KY
Lucy CARPENTER Dau S Female W 13 KY At Home KY KY
Liberty Son S Male W 11 KY Laborer KY KY
Captain Son S Male W 8 KY KY KY
Milton Son S Male W 7 KY KY KY
Misoura Dau S Female W 3 KY KY KY
Margaret Dau S Female W 1 KY KY KY
Martha MARTIN Other D Female W 48 KY KY KY
George SMITH Other S Male W 25 KY Laborer TN TN
Samuel HANSE Other S Male W 45 KY Laborer TN TN
Jackson MC QUEEN Other S Male W 23 KY Laborer KY KY
George PARKER Other S Male W 22 KY Laborer KY KY
John G. NICHOLS Other S Male W 21 KY Laborer NC KY
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Source Information:
Census Place E.D. 50, River, Jackson, Kentucky
Family History Library Film 1254421
NA Film Number T9-0421
Page Number 536C
BIRTH: Conflicting birth years. 1836 (as below) or 1846 (as noted prior)?
CENSUS: 1880 US Census
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
Emaline CARPENTER Self W Female W 44 KY Keeping House KY KY
Louis CARPENTER Son S Male W 14 KY At Home KY KY
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Source Information:
Census Place E.D. 49, Horse Lick, Jackson, Kentucky
Family History Library Film 1254421
NA Film Number T9-0421
Page Number 496DCENSUS: 1880 US Census - I found 2 granddaughters Mandy and Rosa (7 & 4)
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
John LEDBEDERR Self M Male W 62 NC Farmer NC NC
Scharity LEDBEDERR Wife M Female W 46 VA Keeping House VA VA
William LEDBEDERR Son S Male W 15 KY At Home NC VA
Elander LEDBEDERR Dau S Female W 12 KY At Home NC VA
Mandy CARPENTER GDau S Female W 7 KY KY KY
Rosa CARPENTER GDau S Female W 4 KY KY KY
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Source Information:
Census Place E.D. 49, Horse Lick, Jackson, Kentucky
Family History Library Film 1254421
NA Film Number T9-0421
Page Number 495B
286. John or Jack or Jake Carpenter
Jack was living with Fielding Carpenter in 1870.
1910 Jackson Co., KY census ED 98-8-B has year as 1860.
1870 Estill Co., KY Census Pg 604B is possibly her father Albert andherself.
1910 Jackson Co., KY census ED 98-8-B has middle initial as B.
Marriage record to Jack Carpenter said father born in Jackson Co., KY andmother in VA.
Marriage Notes for John or Jack or Jake Carpenter and Mary A. "Dovie" Alcorn
Surety was Arthur Alcorn.
Living in Falcon, Magoffin Co., KY in 1907.
Eastern Cherokee Pension App. shows year as 1855.
This line submitted by John & Peggy Chears lawdog34@lycos.com
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 6:52 AMLiving near Morehead, KY in 1907 per Cherokee Pension App.
Living in Bloomington, KY in 1907 per Cherokee Pension App.
Also known as Samuel Irvin Cem.
Patricia Hopkins Baldwin has it as about 1945.
Also known as Samuel Irvin Cem.
Marriage Notes for William Carpenter and Malinda Carpenter
Patricia Hopkins Baldwin has date as 23 Jun 1868 in Breathitt.
290. Jeremiah "Babe" Carpenter
Patricia Hopkins Baldwin had 1847 on Easter Cherokee Pension App. also.
Stella Fugate Massey has 4 May 1872.
Informant is Linville Carpenter.
Not sure of month and day.
Patricia Hopkins Baldwin said tombstone reads 9 Sep 1852.
Patricia Hopkins Baldwin said tombstone shows 21 Apr 1856.
Iva Baker had date as 22nd.
Died of TB.