Descendants of Thomas Carpenter-124328
A sub-group of Group 15 - dated 6 March 2026

Notes


2. James Carpenter

BIRTH:
"He was a son of Thomas Carpenter, a native of Nottingham, England, who came to America during the Revolution ... per the book written by Meginness; ©1892. See below.
The assumption is that this Thomas was born about 1750/1760 in England.

COMPARE:  Warminister is about 5.5 miles NE of Horningsham,
NOTE:  Probably not - See: Thomas Carpenter-197688. This line does not track to Horningsham.
Name: James Carpenter
Residence Place: Warminster, Wiltshire, England
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 10 Jan 1742
Christening Date (Original): 10 Jan 1742
Christening Place: St. Denys, Warminster, Wiltshire, England
Birthplace:
Birth Date:
Name Note:
Death Date:
Father's Name: Thomas Carpenter
Race:
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01841-5
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1279363
Reference ID: item 15
Citing this Record:
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N69C-G99 : 10 February 2018, James Carpenter, ); citing St. Denys, Warminster, Wiltshire, England, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,279,363.

IMMIGRATION:  1774 - Same person?
Name James Carpenter
Age 18
Birth Year abt 1756
Arrival Year 1774
Arrival Place New York, New York
Primary Immigrant Carpenter, James
Source Publication Code 9151
Annotation Contains 35 articles excerpted from The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 1847-1961. About 17,000 names. Similar lists in Boyer, nos. 0702, 0714, 0717, 0720.
Source Bibliography TEPPER, MICHAEL, editor. Passengers to America: A Consolidation of Ship Passenger Lists from "The New England Historical and Genealogical Register." Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1977. 554p. Reprinted with new introduction and indexes, 1978. Repr. 1980.
Household Members (Name) Age
James Carpenter 18
Source Citation
Place: New York, New York; Year: 1774; Page Number: 270
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc, 2010.
Original data: Filby, P. William, ed. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI, USA: Gale Research, 2012.

MILITARY:
Pennsylvania, Published Archives Series, 1664–1902
Series 6 - Rev. War to War of 1812 Military Lists
Vol. 05, Muster and Pay Rolls Pennsylvania Militia, 1790 - 1800
Pennsylvania Militia - Page 203
525 James Carpenter
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, Published Archives Series, 1664–1902 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data: Pennsylvania Archives. Harrisburg, Pennsylvania: Pennsylvania State Archives.
NOTE:  Per page 196
A true and exact lists of the names and sirnames of each and every free able bodied white male citizen of the age of eighteen years and under the age of forty five years ...  This means in 1790 - 45 = b. abt 1745 this means the age range in correct.

CENSUS: 1793 - image - same person
Name James Carpenter
Residence Year 1793
Residence Place East Pennsboro, Cumberland, Pennsylvania, USA
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, U.S., Septennial Census, 1779-1863 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012.
Original data:
Septennial Census Returns, 1779–1863. Box 1026, microfilm, 14 rolls. Records of the House of Representatives. Records of the General Assembly, Record Group 7. Pennsylvania Historical and Museum Commission, Harrisburg, PA.

CENSUS: 1800 US Census - Same person?
Name Jas Carpenter
Home in 1800 (City, County, State) East Pennsboro, Cumberland, Pennsylvania
Free White Persons - Males - Under 10 1
Free White Persons - Males -10 thru 15 1
Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25 2
Free White Persons - Males - 45 and over 1  <------------
Free White Persons - Females - Under 10 1
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15 2
Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25 1
Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44 1
Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over 1
Number of Household Members Under 16 5
Number of Household Members Over 25 3
Number of Household Members 11
Source Citation
Year: 1800; Census Place: East Pennsboro, Cumberland, Pennsylvania; Series: M32; Roll: 38; Page: 109; Image: 62; Family History Library Film: 363341
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1800 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: Second Census of the United States, 1800. NARA microfilm publication M32 (52 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
Second Census of the United States, 1800: Population Schedules, Washington County, Territory Northwest of the River Ohio; and Population Census, 1803: Washington County, Ohio. NARA microfilm publication M1804 (1 roll).

PRF:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:94HJ-DNQ
James Carpenter Compact Disc #15 Pin #289047 Pedigree  Sex: M
Event(s)
Birth: Nottingham, England
Death: UNKNOWN
Father: Thomas Carpenter Disc #15 Pin #289068
Other Event(s)
MILI: Served in War for Independence.
Emigration: During American Revolution
Personal Information Possesions: Never obtained patent for his land but grandsons Jessie B. and David J. did Residence: 700 acres on line of Anthony & Woodward Townships Occupation: Pioneer farmer in Lycoming County, Pennsylvania
PRF Submitter
Jeff DEBES
814 3rd Ave. SE Apt. 3, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, 52403, United States of America
COMPARE to:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:3WNT-3NY
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:939F-Y6M

E-MAIL:
From: "Jesse Carpenter" carpentersoftware@mac.com mailto:carpentersoftware@mac.com
To: "John R. Carpenter" jrcrin001@cox.net mailto:jrcrin001@cox.ne
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 3:18 AM
Subject: Found new book
> Hello John: > I found a new book that verifies that John Carpenter is the third son > of James Carpenter according to Lycoming County Genealogical Society. > They quote the following: > Per Meginness's History of Lycoming County (available online) published > in 1892, John Carpenter was the third son of James born in 1788. He > married Mary ,daughter of John and Elizabeth Campbell on March 4,1806. > She died 8/4/1847 and he died in 1865.The article goes on to list the > eleven children.The census has them in Lycoming twp in 1840, and > living in anthony twp in 1850 and 1860. > The web site is located at: > < http://www.usgennet.org/usa/pa/county/lycoming/history/lyco-history-01.html > > > If you can add this book to your collection it would tie this book > with DJEC confirming any doubt of John's ancestors.> > Thanks > Jesse Carpenter

BOOK:
http://www.usgennet.org/usa/pa/county/lycoming/history/Chapter-09.html
History of Lycoming County Pennsylvania edited by John F. Meginness; ©1892
CHAPTER IX. ARRIVAL OF COLONEL BRODHEAD.
MUNCY TOWNSHIP ASSESSMENT LIST FOR 1778.
The stirring events of the year now drawing to a close were a terrible set-back to the people of this valley, both in the development of wealth and increase of population. The assessment list of Muncy township for 1778, which has been preserved, shows the following taxables, as compared with the list for 1774: David Austin, Nathaniel Barber, Michael Baker, John Brady, Charles Brignal, Peter Burns, Benjamin Bizart, David Berry, Mathew Blaney, Elwood Biddle, Jonathan Benjamin, David Benjamin, George Bartley, Daniel Brown, John Buckalow, Elizabeth Bonser, William Bonham, James Chambers, Michael Coon, Peter Cool, Henry Cooper, Henry Carmer, Joseph Craft, Peter Courter, Albert Covenhoven, James Clark, John Carpenter, James Carpenter.


History of Lycoming County Pennsylvania edited by John F. Meginness; ©1892
Please note: This book was written more than 115 years ago and was reproduced exactly as published.  Printed and on CD-ROM copies of this book are available from the from the Lycoming County Genealogy Society.


CHAPTER LII.
BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCHES.
BOROUGH OF JERSEY SHORE, AND PORTER, WATSON, MIFFLIN (INCLUDING SALLADASBURG), AND PIATT TOWNSHIPS.
Newton Carpenter who married a Melinda Gulden (daughter of J. L. GULDIN, miller ...).

JAMES CARPENTER was one of the pioneers of Lycoming county. He was a son of Thomas Carpenter, a native of Nottingham, England, who came to America during the Revolution and served in that war for Independence. Soon after the close of that struggle for liberty, James Carpenter came to the West Branch valley and took up 700 acres of land on what is now the line of Anthony and Woodward townships, Lycoming county, upon which he spent the balance of his life. He never obtained his patent for this land, but it was afterwards obtained by his grandsons, Jesse B. and David J. Carpenter. His children were: William, and Samuel, both of whom removed to Indiana; John; James; Polly, who married John Cohick; and Mary, who married George Bennett, all of whom are dead.

JOHN CARPENTER, third son of James Carpenter, was born on the homestead farm .in this county in 1788. He grow to manhood and cleared up a portion of the land upon which he afterward resided. He married Mary, daughter of John and Elizabeth Campbell, of Northumberland county, Pennsylvania, March 4, 1806. She died August 6, 1847; he Survived her until 1865. Their family consisted of the following children: Elizabeth, deceased wife of Andrew Marshall; David, of Jersey Shore, who was twice married, first to Mary Ware, and afterwards to Rachael Mitcheltree; Priscilla, deceased wife of John Pepperman, deceased; Jesse B.; Nancy, who died in infancy; Susan A., deceased wife of Levi Tate, deceased; Sophia, wife of Jonas Newcome; Mary A., deceased wife of J. L. Rank; John J., of Iowa, who married Mary Marshall; William, who died in infancy, and Rebecca, deceased. In early life Mr. Carpenter was a Whig, and subsequently a Republican.

JESSE B. CARPENTER, second son of John and Mary Carpenter, was born October 10, 1813, in Woodward township, Lycoming county. He was reared upon the old homestead, and received such an education as the common schools of that period afforded. After he grew to manhood he and his brother secured the patent for the tract entered by his grandfather, a portion of which is still owned by members of the family. In 1866 he purchased his present home of 125 acres in Piatt township, where he has since resided. Mr. Carpenter was married May 20, 1847, to Phebe Ann, daughter of Joseph and Hannah Carpenter of Eldred township. Four children are the fruits of this union: Joseph R.; William B., deceased; John W., and Asher M. Mr. Carpenter is one of the leading farmers of his township, and is a trustee and steward of the Methodist Episcopal church of his neighborhood. Throughout his life-long residence in Lycoming county he has been recognized as an industrious and honorable citizen, a man whose character is above reproach, and whose success has been attained by a conscientious performance of duty. He is a kind and charitable neighbor, and ever ready to help the needy and afflicted. Politically, he has always been a stanch Democrat, and is also a firm advocate of the temperance cause. Both he and wife are now spending their declining years in the mutual love and respect of home and family, and in the enjoyment of the comforts which their industrious and economical habits have won.

See also:
http://www.carpentersoftware.com/american-born
By Jessie Carpenter

ANCESTRY: Compare - there are about 7 copies of this same family on Ancestry!
The following is such as good as any.
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/2056478/person/102240788
James Carpenter
Birth 1752 in , Nottinghamshire,, England
Death in Anthony, Lycoming, Pennsylvania, United States

Parents
Thomas Carpenter 1730 -
No Mother

Spouse
Mary McNeill 1755 -
Children:
William Carpenter - 1872
Martha Jane Carpenter1766 - 1836
Elizabeth Carpenter1775 - 1839
Elizabeth Polly Carpenter1781 - 1866
James P Carpenter1781 - 1840
James P Carpenter1781 - 1840
James P Carpenter1781 - 1840
James P Carpenter1781 - 1840
Nathan Carpenter1782 -
William Carpenter1782 -
Samuel Carpenter1785 -
John Carpenter1788 - 1865
Joseph Carpenter1790 -
Mary Carpenter1790 -
James Carpenter1794 - 1870

Children of Unknown Spouse
Samuel Carpenter

Source Information
@Ancestry Family Trees This citation provides evidence for James Carpenter

NOTE:  The Ancestry Family Tree at:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/25228842/person/12604807727
Mary McNeil b. 1756 d. 1815 Anthony, Lycoming, PA - listed as spouse.

DESCENDANT PROJECT:   "Jesse Carpenter" carpentersoftware@mac.com
Carpenter Family Project
The Carpenter Family Project (CFP) is the genealogical compilation. It is more than a mere list of
individuals sequentially cataloged in numerical order but a record on the history of the family.
The Ancestor
The ancestor, James Carpenter, was the British soldier who came from England during the American
Revolutionary War in the Army of Cornwallis, and soon after the end of the war, he settled north of the
West Branch of the Susquehanna River of Pennsylvania. The Meginness citations and the Y-DNA testing
on living descendants shows that James Carpenter was the direct ancestor of the Carpenter Family.1,2
The Author
Jesse Carpenter is the author of the Project. The time spent on the project has been long, over a decade,
his manuscript constantly recapitulating along with his thoughts, his frustrations, constantly editing its
content and reexamining its relevancy. He lives with a fixed income , yet the project is important enough
to use what little he has to include it on the Carpenter Software website at: carpentersoftware.com.
Roger Carpenter once said, I need to get away from working with dead people. Roger by the way was the
family genealogist who is now retired from genealogy. Like Roger the author too after so many years has a
need to take a break.


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COMMENT AND CONCERN:
We have a descendant named Joseph who cites his great grandfather as William Carpenter a Loyalist who fought with Conwallis. This is a stark contrast to this James Carpenter who came to America during the Revolution and served in that war for Independence. Either the genealogy is wrong or the William cited is wrong in the bio. Loyalist or Patriot? DO NOT CONFUSE or make these two people the same person.
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History of Lycoming County Pennsylvania
edited by John Franklin Meginness; ©1892
Please note: This book was written more than 115 years ago and was reproduced exactly as published. Printed and on CD-ROM copies of this book are available from the from the Lycoming County Genealogy Society. <>
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CHAPTER XLVIII.
BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCHES.
Page 903 of 1365 pages.
CITY OF WILLIAMSPORT AND BOROUGH OF SOUTH WILLIAMSPORT.
JOSEPH R. CARPENTER, of the firm of Carpenter Brothers Manufacturers of emery and corundum wheels, was born in Anthony township, Lycoming county, Pennsylvania, April 4, 1849. He is a son of Jesse B. and Phoebe (Carpenter) Carpenter of Piatt township, Lycoming county, and grandson of John Carpenter, a native of this county, and great-grandson of William Carpenter, who came from England during the Revolutionary war as a soldier in the army of Cornwallis, and subsequently settled in Lycoming county. The subject of this sketch was educated in the schools ,of Anthony township, where his father and grandfather lived, and subsequently took a course at the Montoursville Normal School. He followed agriculture until 1884, .and then engaged in the manufacture of emery wheels at Linden, under the firm name of Stone & Carpenter. At the end of two years Mr. Stone retired, and the present firm of Carpenter Brothers was organized. They moved their plant to Williamsport in 1891, and it is the only firm of the kind in this part of the State. Mr. ,Carpenter was married in 1873 to Emma E., daughter of John McLaughlin of Piatt township, and has three children: Jessie V.; Mack B., and J. Craig. He is a Democrat, and is a member of the Methodist Episcopal church.


Mary McNeill

ANCESTRY:
NOTE:  The Ancestry Family Tree at:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/25228842/person/12604807727
Mary McNeil b. 1756 d. 1815 Anthony, Lycoming, PA - listed as spouse.

No evidence has been found linking her to James Carpenter. No marriage  record or grave record found.
Indeed no evidence that she has existed has been found other than "Ancestry Trees."
The addition of Mary McNeil-178739  to James Carpenter-124327 was due to Ancestry Family trees pending any evidence to collaborate such. No far nothing has been found to prove her as the spouse. At some given point, we will need to modify or remove her data.


9. Mary Carpenter

Mary Carpenter    Compact Disc #55     Pin #596315

From: Carpenter Software
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:46 PM
To: John R. Carpenter 2
Subject: Re: GEDCOM on James
Dear John
I do have evidence that at least one child of James Carpenter-124327 indicated by the biographies of the Bennett Family of Mary Carpenter-596315 (unknown ID number!), daughter of James Carpenter….
First about her age when she passed away:
Under the section Died, in the Gazette & Bulletin (Williamsport, Pa) dated on 23 March 1831 on page 3.
On Thursday last, Mrs. Mary Bennett, consort of George Bennett, Esq. of Nippenose township, in the 48th year of her age.
Mary was born about 1783. Consort here means spouse. The term Esquire (Esq) as used in American law was applied to justices of the peace and other inferior judicial officers (Black’s Law Dict revised 4th Ed). You may not remember, but I wrote an article about her...
It is unclear where Mary Carpenter-596315 was born…but it was about the time the war was officially ended… Think about this...
Evidence that conveys her parents were from…
Genealogical and Personal History of Lycoming County, Pennsylvania under the Editorial Supervision of Emerson Collins, of Williamsport, Pennsylvania, and John W. Jordan, LL.D. of the Historical Society of Pennsylvania. Illustrated volume II. New York - Chicago, The Lewis Publishing Co. 1906.
“Mary Carpenter, a native of Pennsylvania, of English parentage...” (Collins & Jordan 1906)
I hope this will suffice to the contrary of the 1870 US Census you had mentioned earlier.
I briefly looked over the GEDCOM you had sent me… Thanks by the way.
Please tell me there is evidence (sources) for the Wife of James Carpenter-124327, Mary McNeil. AND his siblings…
In the Meginness Text, the name William Carpenter for James Carpenter-124327 is discussed under the biographies of the sons of Jesse Bowman Carpenter… which by the way I fully explained in the James Carpenter article still posted at the website…
Please keep in touch… Again thank you for your help.
Jesse Carpenter


3. Samuel Carpenter


http://www.usgennet.org/usa/pa/county/lycoming/history/Chapter-05.html
History of Lycoming County Pennsylvania edited by John F. Meginness; ©1892
CHAPTER V.
The second public road of which we have any account, was from John Scudder's place, on the east bank of the river, to the crossing of Muncy creek by the Wyalusing path. This order was made by the court in August, 1773, and Samuel Carpenter, Robert Robb, John Scudder, John Micheltree, John Alward, and James Robb were designated as viewers. As the distance was not very great, it is supposed the road was promptly laid out and built.

http://www.usgennet.org/usa/pa/county/lycoming/history/Chapter-08.html
History of Lycoming County Pennsylvania edited by John F. Meginness; ©1892
CHAPTER VIII. STORY OF THE "BIG RUNAWAY."
Muncy, June 10, 1778.
...
Therefore in consideration of the premises, we beg leave to submit ourselves and families to your care and protection, not doubting but you will order us such relief as to you in your wisdom may seem meet.
The petition was signed by Nimrod Pennington, Samuel Gordon, Joseph Arbour, Joseph Hogeland, Joseph Webster, John Hollingsworth, Benjamin Burt, Peter Jones, Charles Bignall, Nathaniel Barber, Albert Polhamus, John Stryker, Samuel Carpenter, Samuel Wallis, Mordecai McKinney, Andrew Culbertson, Robert Robb, James White, Henry Scott, Joseph J. Wallis, Amariah Sutton, William Hall, Richard Sutton, Joseph Carpenter, Amos Hogeland, Erasmus Persh, Adam Weaver, Zachariah Jeig, Andrew Platt, John Sutton, Thomas McWhorter, Henry McWhorter, Israel Parshall, David Wortman, Andrew Ross, Abraham Lafever, Albert Covenhoven, Matthew Bleakley, William Ellis, Samuel Harris, Jr., John Carpenter,