Descendants of William Carpenter of Rehoboth, Plymouth Colony, now part of Bristol County, MA

Notes


401. Increase Carpenter

The Carpenter and Related Family Historical Journal, Vol 5, Winter 1994,
Number 7, page 416 indicates Increase's spouse as Evelyn Bergen with a child
that is different from the Carpenter Memorial.  IE "Mary Carpenter" born
April 12, 1719.  Also listed is two children (Increase b. abt. 1718 and Jacob
no bd listed.)

SEE: The Ancestry and Descendants of Solomon Carpenter of Goshen, New York.
The News Journal of Machias, Maine and Colonial Families of Long Island by
Seversmith.

CHILDREN: It appears that several famalies are jammed together.  Research
concludes a different arrangement from Amos Carpenter.


Evelyn Bergen

Evelyn was a descendant of Hans Bergen of Long Island.  But by which son is
unknown.


402. Jacob Carpenter

Number 311 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 85
Family on page on page 157 (#136).
He bought land in Jamacia  and was a farmer.
!His will was dated March 20, 1815 and proved Aug. 28, 1819.
Jacob gives to his son Jacob and also his three sons, Nathaniel, Daniel, and
Increase to his daughter Catherine, to daughter Deborah and to son Benjamin a
farm belonging to his son Increase.


Jane Baylis

Jane was a widow and her first husband was a Smith.
Jane was probably a brother to Ephraim Baylis, a captain in charge of the
militia company on March 27, 1776 in the Battle of Long Island.  See notes to
Increase Carpenter (310).


1363. Benjamin Carpenter

Number 937 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 157.
No family listed. He went to Troy, NY.

The following is an abstract of his will.  He mentions his brothers, Jacob and
Increase, and also Benjamin, Everett, his nephew Jacob Carpenter, Benjamin, the
son of Nathaniel deceased, and to his niece, Mary Hendrickson, widow of Stephen
Hendrickson, to his niece Catherine Bergin, widow of Jacob Bergin, his niece
Jane Carpenter, his niece Elizabeth Jones and his nephew, Melanthion Carpenter.
Dated Sept. 13, 1834.  Proved April 5, 1837.


1364. Deborah Carpenter

Number 938 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 157.


1365. Catherine Carpenter

Number 939 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 157.


403. Luke Carpenter

Number 315 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 85.  No family listed.
Buried on the Carpenter Homestead, as most of his children. AF has birth bef
1768. Some records has his death as 12 November 1827 in Hoosick, NY.

NAME: Luke but once seen as Lucas.


Lanah Rhymus

NAME: Rhymus or Rines. Pronounced RINES.  Buried on the Carpenter Homestead.
Death Date 31 JUL 1831 (AE 79).  AF has birth bef 1768.
Per one record she joined the Mormon Church and could not read or write
english.


405. Ruth Carpenter

Number 295 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 82
BIRTH: CM has about 1720 but should read born after 1721 in Goshen, NY.
This may indicate her birth some time between 1721 and 1760 but more likely
circa 1735/45.
The Coleman's history of Thomas Coleman pg 74 indicates that Benjamin
Coleman's son GABRIEL married 5 Feb 1811 SALLY b 1788, dau of PETER STAGG and
RUTH CARPENTER, widow of Ephraim Marston.
Gabriel and Sally's children were:
James Milton b 1808 m Mary Ann Timlow
Bradner b 1810 m Prudence Sayer
Susan b 1812 m Lewis Parkhurst
Garbiel's father, Benjamin (son of Benjamin) b 1755 Goshen, OR CO, NY, d.
1832 married HANNAH FINCH, dau of JOHN and CHRISTIAN (CARPENTER) FINCH.


Ephraim Marston

A Patriot who died at the Battle of Menesiak (Minisink) during the
Revolutionary War with one of his wife's cousins (a Carpenter).


Peter Stagg

PETER STAGG PROBATE DATED 1 APRIL 1843, LATE OF STAFFORD, COUNTY OF
GENESEE, DECEASED.  HEIRS AND NEXT OF KIN LISTED:
MAHALA STAGE, JAMES STAGE, ISSAC N. STAGE, ROBERT F. STAGE AND HARRIET E.
BURDEN ALL OF STAFFORD, GENESEE CO AND SALLY COLMAN OF AMITY IN THE COUNTY OF
ORANGE AND ISAAC N. STAGE SPECIAL GUARDIAN OF HARRIET E. STAGE.


406. Daniel Carpenter

Number 296 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 82
Possible twin to Ruth.  A farmer and hatter.
Family on page 150 (#126)

BIRTH: CM lists birth abt 1720 but the Carpenter and Related Family
Historical Journal, Winter 1994, Vol. 5, No. 7, page 415, indicates he was
born on 10 Oct. 1730 in New York.

Daniel's will dated at Goshen, hatter, Jan. 8, 1789, proved May 9, 1791,
mentions wife Susannah, brother John, eldest son Daniel, second son John,
youngest son Robert, none yet of age, daughters Elinor, Susannah, Sarah, and
Ruth.  Per page 150 of the CM.

A Patriot who signed the "Revolutionary War Pledge" in Goshen, New York in
1775.  He served as a private in a New York Unit.  DAR PATRIOT INDEX.  Served
in the 3rd Regiment of Orange County, New York, New York Militia.
SOURCE: Roberts, NEW YORK IN THE REVOLUTION AND COLONY AND STATE.

RECORDS: All the following from Hempstead Town Records of LI, NY.
Vol. IV - Daniel Carpenter reference.
Aug 31 1750 Earmarks
Submitted by Phoebe Cortesis of CA via E-Mail on 6-8-98.


Susan or Susannah Thompson

Died age 65.

E-MAIL: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 From: Robin Carpenter
Hello All:
Re-studying the 1790 census in Orange County, I note a Susanna Carpenter
listed as a head of household in Town of Goshen, with 3 males over 16, 2
males under 16, and 4 females.  Susanna is listed 2 line below Isaac, 7
lines above Increase, so pretty clearly right in the same neighborhood.
Does anybody know (or strongly surmise) who this Susanna was?  she could
conceiveably be the daughter of John #24...but only if she never married
(else she wouldn't still be named Carpenter).  She could be the widow of
Isaac... but Isaac is still alive! what's up? Robin.
She was the widow of Daniel - This Susannah Thompson! JRC

E-MAIL: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 From: Robin Carpenter
Thanks, John, for the answer w/r Susannah Carpenter in the 1790 Orange
County census (being widow of Daniel #296).  As soon as I saw your answer I
looked her up, and kicked myself for not having spotted it.
Here are three further notes on that info:
       1.  I am a little skeptical of ABC's CM assertion that Daniel's wife
was Susan Thompson of CT.  The reference in the will is clearly to
"Susannah."  That's quite possibly just a usage change, but also quite
possibly one of ABC's lookarounds for someone with similar name to fit into
a slot.
       2.  It is interesting to note the 1790 OC census tabulation says
this household had 3 males aged 16+, 2 males aged 15-, and 4  females.  Your
listing of Family 4580 shows one extra female and two too few males.  I
suppose maybe daughter Susannah #863 might have been living there and
counted in the census with her husband, and maybe a son too.
       3.  The daughter Charity is strangely missing from mention in
Daniel's will, although she would be 9 years at the time.  Do you have any
knowledge (or guess) of where the info for daughter Charity came from?
Robin.

E-MAIL: To Robin from John R. Carpenter.
Dear Robin,
1) First female child named Susannah.  It was not uncommon to call one Susannah
Susan or vice versa.  We need to take everything with a grain of salt until
proven.
2) The extra female may be the spouse of one of the sons. Daniel was probably
married by then, even though not mentioned in the CM!  He is listed as being
married 1808.
The two missing males over 16 may have been the spouses of Sussanah and Sarah.
I assume Elinor at age 30 already had her household.
Daniel's will (per the CM) does not mention grandchildren.
It does make sense that the eldest son is staying at home to help a ailing
father.  The sons-in-law helping out is possible too.
3) The easiest explanation is that Charity died before the will was written in
Jan 1789.
In 1790 the children were about ...
Elinor age 30*
Sussannah age 28* married 1781 but no grandchildren mentioned in will.
Daniel age 27* eldest son
Sarah age 25*
Ruth age 19*
John age 15* second son
Robert age 14* youngest son
Charity was deceased - not mentioned in will.
* = mentioned in will.
Now a question for you!
**** = question about the birth or is it CHR date or were they twins?
Or one adopted, or from a previous marriage of spouse?  OR???
1. Eleanor OR Elinor CARPENTER-20893  17 Apr 1761
2. Susannah CARPENTER-20891           30 Jun 1763****
3. Daniel CARPENTER-20895              7 Aug 1763****
4. Sarah CARPENTER-20894              27 Sep 1765
5. Ruth CARPENTER-20892                5 Mar 1771
6. John CARPENTER-20896                6 Apr 1776
7. Robert CARPENTER-20897             18 Jan 1777
8. Charity CARPENTER-20898            20 Jun 1781
************
E-MAIL: 20 Mr 2000
Well, well, well...
  Very unusual to bear a child just barely over a month after having borne
a prior.  My first notion is to question the data.  What is the source of
these birth dates?  Knowing the source would bear great weight with me.
  Next thought...suppose for a moment that my skepticism (about
Susan/Susannah being the same person is) is a valid doubt.  If ABC nabbed
the wrong person, and if that person had a known birthdate, it would/could
be in conflict with alleged siblings.  This is exactly the kind of detail
about which ABC was notoriously cavalier.
  Next possibility--and I guess the "simplest"--is that the year was
somehow mis-transcribed somewhere along the line.  One of the 1763s might be
1762 or some other year.  Again...makes me wonder what are the sources?
Robin.
*****************
Dear Robin,
Of all the possibilities ... all are valid.  Unfortunately, Amos B. Carpenter
failed to cite his sources.
But what sources did he use?  This would take tracking down the original
records and do a full investigation.
We can do 2 things.  1) Cite the discrepancy or 2) Do something about it.
Since I am working on the Carpenter CD Project, I am going to cite the
discrepancy - like the hundreds of others found!
I like your style.  Question and make logical conclusions based on the
reasonable.  Keep up the good work!
Let me know what you find!
Sincerely, John R. Carpenter.


1376. Eleanor or Elinor Carpenter

Number 865 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 151.
She married a farmer.


1377. Susannah Carpenter

Number 863 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 150.
She married a farmer.

DEATH: Susanna # 303 (b. abt 1743) has the same Death date of 17 March 1790
as another Susanna Carpenter #863 (b. 30 June 1763) in the Carpenter Memorial.
both married a Howell.  Number 863 has more detail which may indicate the
correct data.


1380. Ruth Carpenter

Number 864 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 150.
She married a farmer.


1382. Robert Carpenter

Number 869 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 151. No family listed.


1383. Charity Carpenter

Number 869a in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 151.


408. Increase Carpenter

Number 297 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 83
Family on page 151 (#127).  Resided in Minisink per the CM.
BURIAL: At the Web Page;
http://raims.com/historian/burials.html
Regarding Revolutionary Patriot Burials in and around Ontario County, New York
is found: Carpenter, Increase 1736-1807 [1817?].
Buried in Mendon Cemetery, Town of Mendon, Monroe Co., NY.

E-MAIL: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 From: Robin Carpenter
Hi John:
Thanks for your response(s)re Increase #297.  Maybe we'll turn up
something new to understand this family.  We'll see.
As for my query about Increase as a Patriot, I was referring to some
prior email message...not suggesting any new info of my own.  In fact,
that's why I was asking; I wondered whether you had info on it.  So no, I
can't cite on it.  I guess the only source is the Mendon burial info... which
begs the question as to whether this is the same Increase.  I'm thinking not.
Back in Orange county, I note that Increase #297's wife Jane is said to
be Jane Allison.  I don't take that as certain, but one source is RGC's
notes in OCGS files.  In my view it deserves a note in your compilation as
"likely" or "said to be" or something like that.
Robin.

E-MAIL:
----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:02 PM
Subject: [CARPENTER] Carpenters: Increase, Jacob, Daniel, OR Co/Qu Co NY
> Folks,
> Going thru some old stuff I note with interest that I have a mort. record Vol
> B pg 59 Or. Co. Mortgages 21 8 1786 from INCREASE CARPENTER  of Pre of
> Goshen, yeoman to JACOB CARPENTER of Queen Co LI, aforesaid yeoman .....Wawayanda
> pat 120 acres conveyed by David Shepherd unto Joseph Allison border lands of
> Increase Carpenter which he purchased of Joseph Allison and the lands of Wm
> thompson,.....wit: Daniel Carpenter and John Conner
>
> Mort vol A pg 510 July 4, 1766  Joseph Allison to INCREASE CARPENTER pre.
> Goshen  previous owner ships Wm Allison,
>
> Mort vol A pg 408 May 10, 1784  Daniel Carpenter, Goshen Hateer from Jacob
> Carpenter Jamaica  lots border Mathew Howell and heirs of Samuel Jones.
>
> * Deed D 100  May  1783 John Carpenter Goshen, Distill and w Abigail to
> Daniel Carpenter Hatter border Danil Carpenter Wm Thompson's land, John Carpener .
> Witnesses: Usher H. More and Increase Carpenter
>
> * Deed Vol D page 104 1777 Jonathan Cory Goshen to Daniel Carpenter hatter,
> wit: Mathew Howell, Jr., Edward Davidson, Benjamin Gale
>
> * Vol D 107 1784  Jonathan Smith, blacksmith and w Abigail to Daniel
> Carpenter, hatter, Goshen borders Mathew Howell, heairs of Samuel Jones  Wit: John
> Conner and Sarah Carpenter
>
> First I would like to say that the films I read, several years ago, were dark
> and I couldn't abstract everything.  * I have photocopies.  Mortgages just
> the abstract.
>
> Anyone shed an light on Increase - was he the brother of Jacob or cousin?
>
> Anyone know anything about John Conner - in the Or Will book he seems to have
> witnessed quite a few Allison and Carpenter papers.  Anyone like a copy of
> the deeds?
>
> Phoebe in Ca


1386. Sophia Carpenter

Number 874 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 151.
No family listed.


1387. Elizabeth Carpenter

Number 872 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 151.


1388. Amelia Carpenter

Number 871 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 151.
Died age 29.


411. John Carpenter Judge

Number 300 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 83.  Birth is 1745 not 1730.
Family on page 152 (#129)  John Carpenter, Jr.
George B. Carpenter of Chicago made a corrective note on page 834 of the
Carpenter Memorial (1898) that the 23 Feb. 1745 birth date was correct.  The CM
gives 3 June 1730 and Feb. 1745 on page 83 for this John.  The 3 June 1730 date
is speculated as an earlier John Carpenter in that family who died as a child.

NOTE: Also known as "John the Distiller"  John of Havertraw, NY represented
Orange county in the Colonial Assembly in 1778 and he was also a Judge at one
time in Orange county.  He moved to Washington Town, north of Albany, NY and
went into the distillery business and accumulated much property.  He was a
man of note and held many important offices.   He was approved to make
gunpowder with a partner for the Colonial Congress (27 April 1776 (Journel of
Provincial Congress, Vol. 1, page 223).  The powder mill was in Salisbury
in the precinct of Cromwall, a part of the orginal precinct of Goshen.
Page 309 of the same record (19 Feb 1776) the congress was advised that someone
on the ship "Asia" was indebited to John Carpenter for a slave bill of sale or
some security for said debt.  John was given permission to go secure the debt.
Among the citizens of Goshen who signed a pledge to fight against the Britsh
were John, John Jr., Elijah, Benjamin, Timothy, Noah, and William Carpenter.
A letter dated Cumberland County, Westminister, NY, 1 Feb 1776 to Provincial
Congress from Benjamin Carpenter, Chairman of County Committee, announces
nomination of field officers, among whom was Benjamin Carpenter, Esq., Second
Colonel (prob. #309).
He was also into the manufacturer business with Henry Van Rensselaer.
Grandson Sands Coe Carpenter wrote that this John Carpenter built and
apporopiated for the Hall at Philadelphia historically known as CARPENTER'S
HALL for the use of the Convention that formed our Nation.
SOURCE: Letter of Sands Coe Carpenter to his cousin George B. Carpenter.
A Patriot in New York State, DAR PATRIOT INDEX.
(In case you fuss with such things, the Orange County town "Haverstraw"
has a typo (missing S), and "Cromwall" should be Cornwall. The spellings
above are from the Carpenter Memorial.)

Cayuga County, New York Guardianships
http://www.sampubco.com/guard/ny/nycayuga01.htm
CARPENTER, ELIZABETH         CARPENTER, JOHN          WOODRUFF, ABIGAL         MANLIUS, ONONDAGA, NY         6-A-32
CARPENTER, ISAAC             CARPENTER, JOHN          WOODRUFF, ABIGAL         MANLIUS, ONONDAGA, NY         6-A-33
CARPENTER, JEMIMA            CARPENTER, CYRIL         .                        GRANVILLE, WASHINGTON, NY     6-A-127
CARPENTER, JOHN              CARPENTER, CYRIL         CARPENTER, ELIZABETH G.  GRANVILLE, WASHINGTON, NY     6-A-125
CARPENTER, MARIA             CARPENTER, CYRIL         CARPENTER, ELIZABETH G.  GRANVILLE, WASHINGTON, NY     6-A-126
CARPENTER, SUSANNAH          CARPENTER, JOHN          WOODRUFF, ABIGAL         MANLIUS, ONONDAGA, NY         6-A-31
CARPENTER, TEMPERANCE        CARPENTER, JOHN          .                        MANLIUS                       6-A-15
Column 1 = Name of Minor
Column 2 = Deceased Father or Mother (^ = parents living, other relatives may be reason)
Column 3 = Petitioner
Column 4 = Residence of Deceased
Column 5 = County, Volume, Page #

MORE:
http://www.newenglandancestors.org:80/research/database/ny_probate/default.asp?f=g:\nehgs_db_images\Ny_probate\Cayuga_1310.gif&cnt=55&ffile=Cayuga_1309.gif
Guardians Auburn NY Surrogate
page 81 Albany NY Surrogate
Adm on John I carpenter of Washington Co Albany merchant dec'd date 22 Apr 1800 granted to Abigal Carpenter widow and relict of John I Carpenter.
Supplied by:  Phebe Cortez  MzCortez@aol.com
Thursday, June 21, 2007

BOOK:
http://books.google.com/books?id=FZE-AAAAYAAJ&pg=PA169&dq=benjamin+moore,+Coe,+Carpenter++-paint&hl=en&ei=5rnNTo_-Ae7SiAKums3OCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CEEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=benjamin%20moore%2C%20Coe%2C%20Carpenter%20%20-paint&f=false
Genealogical and memorial history of the state of New Jersey ... edited by Francis Bazley Lee - Page 169.
See: BOOK section.


MORE:
----- Original Message -----
From: "L. J. Masters"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 5:22 PM
Subject: [NYORANGE] Revolutionary Soldiers-Orange Co
The following is from a National Archives microfilm of Revolutionary War
militia lists, payroll, depositions, etc from the colony/state of New York.
Account of Money Due to Lt. Joseph Conklings Company for rations in
General George Clinton's Brigade of Col. Jess Woodhulls Regiment ordered
in service to guard John Carpenter's powder mill pursuant to a resolve of
the committee of safety in Orange County, New York.  Entered into service
May 4 ending July 1777.
Joseph Concklin, Lt
Peter Hobart, Sergeant
Joseph Carpenter, Sergeant
William Ayres, Sergeant
Abraham Youngs
William Budd
Tuthill Horton
Silas Haull
Joseph Goble
Benjamin McCaugh
Howel Pierson
Jeremiah Brown
James Haull
Nicholas Night
Barnabas Manna
Jesse Carpenter
Silas Benjamin Sr.
Silas Benjamin Jr.
John Benjamin
Herghah Gragge
Paul Howell
Jedediah Fuller
William Thompson
David Halliocke
William Horton
Thomas Horton
Benjamin Goble
John Carpenter.
Elihu Marvin was chairman of the Committee of the Precinct of Cornwall and
signed off on this document on 16 July 1777.

E-MAIL:
From: Phoebe Cortez  
To:
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 12:02 PM
Subject: NY John CARPENTER died Jan 15, 1800
> Dear Folks,
> I am still working on the Goshen, NY Carpenters -
> I just found this reference in the New York State Library archives:
> (http://unix2.nysed.gov/msscfa/sc7006.htm)
> ABRAHAM VAN VECHTEN PAPERS 1686 - 1867
> (Apparently he was an early attorney up near Albany and his papers were
> donated to the state library or archives - to find this reference Google
> "Bergen's Patent" and "Carpenter."
> Anyway, here is what it said:
> Box 30  127
> SC7006
> ".................Carpenter family - January 15, 1800 - Petition for
> division of estate in Town of Goshen and counties of Green and Montgomery  (Bergen's
> Patent) of John Carpenter, who died on the above date...."
> I believe this is probably the John Carpenter described in AB Carpenter
> book, believed to be the son of John of Jamaica and Ruth Coe.  Also  believed to
> be the brother of my Moses.  When I can get to my records I  will send further
> information.  As I recall this John married a Lois Cory  and his widow married
> a Woodruff in Onondaga Co.
> I have further information, but cannot reach it now.
> QUESTIONS:
> 1.  Has anyone ever seen these papers?
> 2.  Does anyone on this list live near Albany, NY and know how to  access
> these papers?  (I have e-mailed the Library to ask if they have this  service
> available. and as yet have not answered.
> Phoebe in CA

E-MAIL:
From:
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 12:05 AM
Subject: John Carpenter NY d. Feb 15 1800
>I got a copy of a "Citation of John C. Carpenter and others" from the state
> library today.
>
> John C. Carpenter is apparently living the Goshen, Orange ...hard to
> read...and his wife was Cynthia..................
>
> it lists the properties: many separate ones and apparently thousands...in
> Orange and Green, and Tioga  Co. Montgomery Co., etc.  also lists a  property he
> owned as tenants in common with Henry Wisner and a lot sold to Moses
> Carpenter. and his children..........many under age and needing
> guardianships..........
>
> other brothers and sisters listed: Benjamin, Abigail, Mary, Temperance,
> Isaac, Susannah and Elizabeth who are the only surviving children and  heirs.
> (Also they are all under 21 and need guardians)
>
> The hand writing is awful - there must be some court records for  this?  Will
> be happy to make a xerox copy of this doc - about 10 pages -  for any one
> interested in this document.
>
> Phoebe in CA


Francis Johnson

NAME: Last name most likely "Johnson."


1389. Margaret Carpenter

Number 876a in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 152.


1390. Elinor Carpenter

Number 876b in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 152.


1391. James Carpenter

Number 876c in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 152.
He was born about the time his mother died.


Abigail Moore

NAME: Also known as Abigail or Abigal Woodruff, widow.

DEATH: Oct 1806 - Her 15 year daughter Temperance given a guardian after mother's death or inability to continue to care for her younger daughters.


1392. Cynthia Carpenter

Number 877 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 152.
Residence: near Utica, NY.

E-MAIL: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 From: "Marcia Buffett"
Dear John:
I recently came by the following information:
Philip Schuyler of the Town of Carlisle, Schoharie Co., NY together with
his son, William, settled in the Town of Lake Pleasant around 1836. Philip
was perhaps son of Philip S. and Cynthia Carpenter Schuyler, daughter of
John Carpenter who owned extensive Adirondack lands aquired from Jonathan
Lawrence on Dec. 21, 1790. The greater part of these lands were released to
the heirs of Timothy Green on April 8, 1827.
On March 10, 1834 Philip and Hanna Schuyler then of Carlisle, sold to their
son, William Schuyler, 155 acres of land in lots 119 and 121 of the Oxbow
Tract on the south side of Oxbow Lake. On Aug 23, 1837, William and Betsey
Ann Schuyler returned the land to his father.
Marcia Buffett.
Descendants of Philip Schuyler
Generation No. 1
1.  PHILIP1 SCHUYLER was born 1777.  He married HANNAH.
Children of PHILIP SCHUYLER and HANNAH are:
2.      i.      WILLIAM2 SCHUYLER, b. 1816, Schoharie, NY; d. November 8, 1860.
       ii.     JAMES SCHUYLER, b. 1817.
       iii.    BETSEY ANN SCHUYLER, b. 1818; m. ISAAC MONK.
       iv.     SARAH SCHUYLER, b. 1829.
       v.      ALICE SCHUYLER, b. 1833.
Generation No. 2
2.  WILLIAM2 SCHUYLER (PHILIP1) was born 1816 in Schoharie, NY, and died
November 8, 1860.  He married BETSEY ANN ORCUTT, daughter of WILLIAM ORCUTT
and HARRIET DAVIS.
Children of WILLIAM SCHUYLER and BETSEY ORCUTT are:
       i.      PHILANDA3 SCHUYLER, b. May 11, 1841, Lake Pleasant, Hamilton
Co., NY;
d. December 16, 1907; m. JAMES MARTIN RUDES.
       ii.     DANIEL H. SCHUYLER, b. 1838; d. August 20, 1908, Benson, NY.
       iii.    JULIA SCHUYLER, b. 1838; m. EZEKIAL PERRY DUNNING.
       iv.     WILLIAM HENRY SCHUYLER, b. 1840; m. LUCY November 1869.
E-MAIL: ADD ON ...
I think I should have sent this one generation further back.
It goes Philip S. (abt 1750) married to Cynthia Carpenter, had a son Philip
(1777) married to Hannah, had a son William (1816)married to Betsey.
I guess what I am asking is: Do you have a Cynthia Carpenter, dua. of John
Carpenter??? And did she marry a Philip S. Schuyler.
Marcia.  (Answer - Yes.  JRC)


1397. Mary Carpenter

Number 882 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 153.


412. Isaac Carpenter

Number 298 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 83
Family on page 151 (#128)
He was a soldier in the Revolution: was in Capt. Casey's company, 3rd Regiment
in the New York Militia.  SEE: DAR PATRIOT INDEX.  Also SEE: Roberts.  He was
assessed in Chester, in 1775.  His son Daniel was the executor of his will.  At
his decease he was the owner of 3500 acres of land in Orange county and in New
Jersey: a part of which is still in the family.  In letters found among his
papers is mentioned a Jonathan Carpenter: they also mention the fact of going
west and visiting a brother Moses in Onondaga county.

Only children of his second marriage is listed in the Carpenter Memorial.
His son Daniel is not listed in that record except as a note.
His son (likely) Jonathan is not listed except as listed above.

Will proved 28 April 1818, but written in 1811 with a codicil. See WILL: below.

E-MAIL: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 From: Robin Carpenter
My favorite and most intriguing cemetery find (of my recent Orange County
NY visit) was in the Pine Hill Cemetery.  There, at the top of the piney
knoll of the oldest section, stands the smallish stone of Gabriel Van Cleft.
A primitive design is inscribed at the top, forming a semi-circle of seven
"spokes" suggestive of a sunrise or sunset.  Below that, roughly hewn it
says "Died Gabriel; Van Cleft; November 22; 28 of his age; 1825.
Gabriel was a son of Benjamin Van Cleft and Abigail (Carpenter) Van
Cleft. Gabriel's father Benjamin died young (1806), probably about 25-30
years old.  Gabriel's mother Abigail was a daughter of Carman Carpenter and
Mary (Webb) Carpenter.  Carman Carpenter names Abigail (remarried to a
Young) and her minor children (including Gabriel Van Cleft) in his 1811 will.
Now here's the intrigue: Immediately next to Gabriel's stone are these:
        Levi S. Young (1810? aged 28?)
        Susan Jane Young (1813? aged 26?)
        then a space
        then a stone far too worn to read.
Now, Abigail's remarriage to a Young couldn't have been before she was
widowed in 1806, so what was this "other" connection between Young and Van
Cleft?  And where are the other Youngs (including Abigail) buried?
Further intrigue is the finding that the immediately adjacent row of
stones in this little section of the old piney knoll has:
        Isaac Carpenter (1818, aged 70)
        Susannah Carpenter (1860, aged 84)
        Moses Webb (1805, aged 25)
        Jonathan Webb (1801, aged 7_)
        Penelope Webb (1801, aged 67)
This Isaac is clearly the Isaac Carpenter #298 in ABC's Carpenter
Memorial (p.83), and Susannah his wife.  (Names and dates all match.)
Jonathan and Penelope Webb are parents of Carman Carpenter's wife, Mary
Webb.  With Carman's grandson Gabriel Van Cleft and the youthful Youngs
buried together with Isaac and Susannah Carpenter, and also with Carman's
in-law Webbs, the implied connection between Carman and Isaac Carpenter
grows.  They cannot be supposed merely as Minisink neighbors.  But just what
connection was it?
If anyone here can fill-in more on any of this, I'm all ears....
Robin.
MORE:
Mon, 1 May 2000 From: Robin Carpenter
I've been muddling over the Carpenter-Webb thing ever since finding Isaac
Carpenter (ABC #298) and Jonathan Webb (d. 1801) buried together at Pine
Hill.  The only family linkage I find (other than the previously known
Carman Carpenter-Mary Webb marriage) is via the Steward/Stewart family.
Here it is:
   1. Jonathan Webb's 1792 will names Margaret Steward as a daughter (EWOC).
   2. Isaac (#298) Carpenter's 1811 will has witnesses Asa Steward and
Lewis D. Steward.
   3. Isaac's Brother Benjamin Carpenter (#301) was married to Eunice
"Stewart" (per ABC) and his 1811 will names John "Steward" executor and
Silas "Stewart" witness (per EWOC).
Another possible connection is that Jonathan Webb's will has Isaac
"Kinny" for a witness (per EWOC), and Isaac Carpenter's (2nd) wife was
Susanna "McKinney" (per ABC).
All this may simply indicate they all lived nearby and used each other
for witnesses etc...but that usualy doesn't cause people to be buried
together (given that Pine Hill isn't some little neighborhood cemetery).  I
don't remember seeing Steward's buried nearby...but I was not tuned-in to
the Steward name at the time, so I would probably not have noticed.
Does anyone know where Benjamin Carpenter #301 is buried?  Anyone know
whethr Isaac Kinny and Susanna McKinney are of the same family?
Robin.

WILL:
From: "Dennis Carpenter" >
To: >
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 5:49 PM
Subject: [CARPENTER] 1811 Will of Isaac Carpenter of Minisink, Orange Co., NY
1811 Will of Isaac Carpenter of Minisink, Orange Co., NY page 1 211 The People of the State of New York by the Grace of God Free and Independent To all to whom these persents shall come or may concern send greeting. Know ye that at Goshen in the County of Orange on the Twenty eighth day of April in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and eighteen before Edward Ely Esq. Surrogate of our said County the last will and Testament of Isaac Carpenter deceased (a copy whereof is hereunto annexed) was proved and is now approved and allowed of by us and the said deceased having whilst he lived and at the time of his death goods chattels or credits within this State by means whereof the proving and registering the said will, and the granting administration, of all and singular the said goods chattels and credits, and also the auditing allowing, and final discharging the account thereof doth belong unto us. The administration of all and singular the goods chattels and credits of the said deceased and any way concerning his will is granted unto Susannah Carpenter the Executrix, and Daniel Carpenter the Executor in the said Will named they being first duly sworn well and faithfully to administer the same and to make and exhibit a true and perfect Inventory of all and singular the said goods chattels and credits and also to render a just and true account thereof when thereunto required. In Testimony whereof we have caused the seal of office of our said Surrogate to be hereinto affixed. Witness Edward Ely Esqr Surrogate of the said County at Goshen the Twenty eighth day of April in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and eighteen and of our Independence the forty second - - - In the name of God Amen. I Isaac Carpenter of the Town of Minisink in the County of Orange and State of New York being in health and of sound mind and memory blessed be the Lord, Do this eighteenth day of September in the year of our Lord Christ one Thousand eight hundred and eleven, make and publish this my last will and Testament in manner following. Imprimis I order all my just debts and funeral expenses to be paid out of my personal property, Also I order and impower my executors herein after named to sell my farm in warwick Mountain in New Jersey if not sold ay my decease and to execute a deed to the page 2 212 pirchasor or pirchasors also I give unto my beloved wife Susannah one horse saddle and bridle, one bed bedding and beuro, also I give and bequeath all my real estate unto my daughters Susan and Ruthan for and during their natural life time to be equally divided, and at and after there deceas to the heirs of their bodys also all my personal estate as heretofore given to my two daughters, and that they be allowed to take possession on their marrying or as they severally arrive to full age, and I wish my wife Sussannah to advise with my Executors, and to live on and use the farm and take good care of it and the Children, and bring them up well for and in consideration of the use of said farm and when the children take possession they must maintain and take good care of their mother and if not it is my will that she shall have the use of one third of my Real Estate or farm on which I now live and the best room in my house and as much of the sellor as she may need, also I give to my wife meat and grain sufficient for the famely, for one year, also I wish my wife Susanna to keep the household furniture for the use of the famely untill the children marry or come of age and as mush stock and farming utentials as shall be that necessary to carry n the farm, also if there is any more money than will pay my just debts, I wish my Executors to put it at Interest on land security at their discretion, And Lastly I do hereby make ordain constitute and appoint my beloved wife Susanna exectrise and Daniel Carpenter of Goshen my Executor, of this my last will and Testament. In Witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal the day and year above written. Signed sealed published and declared, by the testator as his last will and Testament, in the presance of us who signed our names, Hereunto as witnesses, in the Testators presance, and of each other Asa Steward Lewis B. Steward Abraham Neely ..................Isaac Carpenter LS ..... Codicil In explanation of my above will I hereby declare it as my Intention that in case of the death of either of my said daughters without heirs of their body the said Estate by my said will devised shall go to the survivor and the heirs of her body. In Witness whereof I the said Isaac Carpenter have to this Codicil set my hand and seal this ninth day of January one thousand eight hundred & eighteen. Signed sealed & published by the said Isaac Carpenter as for a Codicil, to his last will & Testament In he presence of us who have subscribed our names in his presence. Nathaniel Cooley James Rooney Ezuba hir X mark Bennet .............. Isaac Carpenter LS page 3 213 Orange County ss Be it remembered that on the sixteenth day of April Instant personally appeared before me Edward Ely Surrogate of the County of Orange James Rooney and beig duly sworn he did declare and say that he did see Isaac Carpenter deceased sign and seal the paper writing then shewn un to him purporting to be a Codicil annexed to the last will and Testament of the said deceased of which the last preceeding is a copy and heard him publish and declare the same as and for a Codicil to be annexed to his last will and Testament and to be taken as a part thereof, that the same is as then annexed to the paper writing purporting to be the last will and Testament of the said deceased, in the same manner as it now appears of which the first preceeding is a copy and that the said deceased then declared the same to be his last will and Testament, and that at the time thereof he the said deceased was of sound and disposing mind and memory to the best of his knowledge and belief and that he together with Nathaniel Cooley and Ezubia Bennet subscribed their names thereto as witnesses in the presence of the Testator and in the presence of each other, And on the Twenty eighth day of April in the year of our Lord one thousand eight Hundred and eighteen personally appeared before me the said Surrogate Nathaniel Cooley and Apollos Jessup, and being duly sworn the said Nathaniel Cooley did declare and say that he did see Isaac Carpenter deceased sign and seal the paper writing then shewn unto him purporting to be a Codicil to the last will and Testament of the said deceased,of which the last preceeding is a True copy and heard him publish and declare the same as and for a Codicil to is last will and testament and to be taken as a part thereof, that the said Codicil was then annexed to the paper writing purporting to be the last will and Testament of the said deceased, of which the first preceeding is a copy, and the said deceased then published and declared the same to be his last will and Testament that at the time thereof he the said deceased was of sound and disposing mind and memory to the best of his knowledge and belief and that he Together with James Rooney and Ezubia Bennet subscribed their names to the said Codicil as witnesses in the presence of the Testator and in the presence of each other, And the said Nathaniel Cooley did further say that the said Abraham Neely was not in this Country to the best of his knowledge and belief and that it was reported and believed that he had ?????? to some part of the western Country but the place of his Residence was uknown, and the said Apollas Jessup upon his oath aforesaid did declare and say, that the said Asa Steward and Lewis Steward, two of the subscribing witnesses to the last will and Testament of the said deceased subscribed to the first preceeding writing are both dead, that he is well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Asa Steward deceased, and had frequently seen him write, and from his knowledge of his hand writing, he believes the signiture to the said first mentioned writing to be the hand writing of the said Asa Steward deceased . The Preceeding is a True Copy of the last will and Testament of Isaac page 4 214 Carpenter deceased of the Certificate of the proof thereof of the Codicil thereunto annexed, and the Letters Tetamentary thereon By Edward Ely Surrogate ***** Transcribed by Dennis F. Carpenter, July 2009

E-MAIL:
From: "Gene Zubrinsky" >
To: >
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:32 AM
Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] 1811 Will of Isaac Carpenter - Family
> On Aug 12, 2009, Margaret wrote: > > << My question about the birth place for Isaac Carpenter has not been > addressed so I am asking again if anyone knows where he was born. I > have been told that he was born in Jamaica, Queens, NY, not Goshen. > Is there any evidence? >> > > Amos B. Carpenter lists Isaac as the son of John5 Carpenter of Jamaica > and Goshen (John4-3, William2 of Rehoboth) and claims that all the > latter man's children, including Isaac, were born at Jamaica > (Carpenter, _A Genealogical History of the Rehoboth Branch of the > Carpenter Family in America_ [Amherst, Mass., 1898], 82-83). But > Herbert F. Seversmith, one of the finest genealogists of his time, > says the following: "From the will of his father it is known that > [John5] was of Goshen, Orange County, New York, 10 June 1732. . . . > [T]his John Carpenter was continuously at Goshen [from > 1721]" (Seversmith, _Colonial Families of Long Island, New York and > Connecticut . . ._ , 5 vols. [Washington, D.C., 1939-1958], > 2:536-37). If John5 was in fact Isaac's father (see below), he thus > would probably have been born at Goshen. > > But Seversmith raises other relevant issues: "[A]s there were three > John Carpenters of age at this time, and as one of them cannot be > shown to have left Jamaica [in 1723, when a John Carpenter of Jamaica > exchanged land with Benjamin Coe], it is _not_ safe to state that the > present John Carpenter married Ruth Coe. . . . [T]he names of > [John5's] children remain _unproved_. It must be pointed out, > however, that chronology will permit the following to have been > children of this John Carpenter: i. _Daniel_, said to have been born > about 1720 . . . ii. _Increase_, of Minisink, New York, . . . Perhaps > other children. It is difficult to believe, however, that this John > Carpenter, born about 1683, was the father of Ruth who married Ephraim > Marston 15 January, 1781; or of Isaac, born at Jamaica (!) 31 March > 1747; John, born at the same place, 23 February 1745; Benjamin, born > about 1750; Moses, who died at the battle of Oriskany, and Susanna, > who died 17 March 1790, as the wife of a Howell. It remains for some > interested researcher to establish the correct listing of the > descendants of this John Carpenter" (Seversmith, 2:537-38). > > I don't think Seversmith necessarily accepts Amos Carpenter's > assertion that Isaac was born at Jamaica. He's simply arguing that > both the date and place of birth that the latter compiler claims for > him fail to comport with the age (about 64) and place of residence > (Goshen) of John5 Carpenter in 1747. With Isaac's parentage in > serious doubt, it doesn't appear possible to establish his birthplace > with certainty at this time. > > Gene Z.


Susanna Horton

NAME: Some records list her as Susanna Little.  However her maiden name was
HORTON.


1401. Daniel Carpenter

This Daniel is not in the CM except as a note under his father (298).
"His son Daniel was the executor of his will."
See Number 298 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 83.


E-MAIL:  Mon, 18 Dec 2000  From:  Robin Carpenter
... The 1790 U.S. Census lists three Carpenters in the town of Minisink in
Orange County NY:
Daniel          1-2-2-0-0
Benjamin        2-0-3-0-0
William         1-3-2-0-0
Benjamin and William are listed near each other, probably indicating
they were close neighbors.
(NOTE: Benjamin and William were sons of Benjamin & Eunice Carpenter. JRC)


1402. Jonathan Carpenter

This Jonathan is not in the CM except as a note under his father (298).
"in letters found among his (father's) papers is mentioned a Jonathan . . ."
See Number 298 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 83


Susanna McKinney

Susanna was the youngest of 4 daughters born to Edward and Mary DeKay
McKinney.  They were living near Omagh in the northern part of Ireland.
They were of Scotch descent and they were Presbyterians.
At age 15, she came in company of 14 families to the city of NY in May
1792.  She came over the the ship called "Ann and Susan".
After marriage to Isaac they lived on their home farm in the town of Wawaganda,
two and one half miles from Middletown, NY, where two of their grandchildren
now reside.  Susanna was a woman of strong and noble character greatly beloved
by all who knew her.


413. Moses Carpenter

Number 302 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 83
Family on page 154 (#130 1/2)
A Moses Carpenter was killed in the Battle of Minisink . 20 Jul 1799 Battle of, Minisink, Orange, NY
Moses, his Wife Hannah sold land in 1779.  Death maybe later?
MAYBE not killed?   Moses was probably married twice.

A Patriot who in 1775 signed "The Revolutionary War Pledge" at Goshen, Orange county, New York.  A Private in a New York Unit. DAR PATRIOT INDEX.  He served in the 3rd Regiment of the Line, See: Roberts, NEW YORK IN THE REVOLUTION AS COLONY AND STATE.  Updated by the Carpenter & Related Family Historical Journal, article by Raymond George Carpenter.

WILL: Posted by Phoebe on Tue, 01 Feb 2000
The people of the State of New York, by the Grace of God free and independent: To all to whom there present shall come, or may concern, Greeting: Know ye, that at Skaneatele in the County of Onondaga on the third day of March in the year one thousand Eight hundred and twenty nine, before Freeborn G Jewett Surrogate of our said county the last will and testament of Moses Carpenter deceased (a copy whereof is hereunto annexed) was proven and is now approved and allowed of by us, and the said deceased having whilst he lives and at the time of his death, goods, chattels or credit within this State, by means which the pro ing and registering the said will and granting administration of all and singular the said goods, chattels and credits and also the auditing, allowing and final discharging the account thereof doth belong unto us, the administration of all and singular the good, chattels and credits of the said deceased and any way concerning his will is granted unto Timothy Brown and David Munro, Executors in the said will named they being duly sworn well and faithfully to administer the same and to make and exhibit a true and perfect inventory of all and singular the said goods chattels and credits, and also to render a just and true account thereof when there unto required In testimony whereof, we have caused the seal of office of our said surrogate to be hereunto affixed. Witness Freeborn G. Jewett Surrogate of the said County at Skaneatele the third day of March in the year one thousand eight hundred and twenty nine. F. G. Jewett
The last will and testament of MOSES CARPENTER of the town of Camillus in the county of Onondaga and state of New York considering the uncertainty of the mortal life and being of sound mind and memory, Blessed be Almighty God for the Same, I do make and publish this my last will and testament in name and form following (that is to say) First I give and bequeath unto my blooded wife HANNAH CARPENTER one bed and
bedding appertenant to the same and one cow all of which shall be such of the kind as she shall choose and select for herself from the beds bedding and stock which I may leave at my death -
Item I give and bequeath to my daughter JOANNAH REED wife of JESSE REED of the town of Aurelius in the county of Cayuga and to certain of her children (to wit) JULYA, ANN PERRY, ELISA ANN MOREDOCK, JAMES C. REED, ABIGAIL MARIAH REED all my right title interest claim and property of in and to Lots Numbers Seventy three, Seventy four, Eighty four and Eighty five in the Town of Camillus aforesaid Supposed to contain and extend to two hundred and eighty one acres on said lots to have and to hold the same unto her the said JOANNAH REED and the aforementioned children and to their heirs and assigns forever as tenants in common in equal proportions subject nevertheless to a certain charge and bequest to the said JOANNAH and the above named children on the express condition that she and they in order to enjoy the same after my decease shall maintain and support my said beloved wife HANNAH in a suitable and proper manner for and during the term of her natural life it is however expressly declared that the aforesaid bequest of bed and bedding and cow and her maintenance and support thus charged up the lands described to the said JOANNAH and the aforementioned children, I do hereby declare that the said maintenance and support of my said wife shall be and is hereby charged upon the lands so to the said JOANNAH and the aforementioned children devised is and shall be in lieu of the said HANNAH's wright of Dower of in and to any part of my estate,
Item I do give and bequeath to my grand daughter JOANNAH FAY, five dollars
Item I do give and bequeath unto my grand daughter BETSY GARDNER five dollars
Item I do give and bequeath unto my grand children (to wit) SALLY PARDY,
MOSES CARPENTER WEASNOR, JOHN WEASNOR, JELINE WEASNOR, ELISA MALVIN, HENRY
WEASNOR and JAMES WEASNOR JUNIOR one dollar each,
Item I do hereby nominate and appoint TIMOTHY BROWN and DAVID MUNRO of Camillus aforesaid executors of this my last will and testament
Item I do order that after my decease my said executors shall sell and dispose of all and singular my good, chattels and personal estate of every description first however suffering my said wife to select her bed and bedding and cow, and from the available of such sales they shall pay all and singular my debts wheresoever and whomsoever due and owing and whatsoever sum if any shall be left after paying said legacies and said debts they shall
divide into equal parts one of which they shall pay to JOANNAH REED and the aforementioned children of the said JOANNAH REED and one of which to SUSANNAH REDMAN and her children and one of which to ABIGAIL MUNRO and her children in equal proportion In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal the thirty first day of March in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and twenty eight.
Moses Carpenter Signed, Sealed published and declared by the above named Moses Carpenter to be his last Will and testament in the presence of us who have hereunto subscribed our names as witnesses in the presence of the testator Jacob Gunsalus Reuben Spalding Rachel Ann Taylor
Moses Carpenter first married Elizabeth Runyon b. 14 December 1751 of Morris Co., N.J., daughter of Richard and Jane (Van Court) Runyon. She died ab. 1775 after the birth of their daughter Elizabeth Runyon Carpenter who married James Wisner son of John Wisner, Jr. and Mary Thompson of Orange Co. N.Y.
Moses Carpenter married June 26, 1777 Hannah Smith daughter of Henry and Joanna Smith. Their daughters were Susannah m. Michael Redman; Joanna m. Jesse Read, and Abigail m. David Munro.
Moses tombstone in the Elbridge Rural Cemetery reads d. Feb 23, 1829 in the 78th year and Hannah tombstone in the Elbridge Rural Cemeter reads d. Aug. 30, 1838 ae 83 year.
Many of their descendants are also listed in the Elbridge Rural Cemetery.
My line was thru his daughter Elizabeth Runyon (her middle name) Carpenter and James Wisner who apparently went to Onondaga Co. with Moses. My Wisner line was thru James daughter Eliza Wisner who married Joel Melvin, who was from the Jonathan Melvin family that had come down from Conway, MA to Wayne/Ontario Co. after the Rev. War.

E-MAIL: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 From: Phoebe Cortez MzCortez@aol.com
Moses Carpenter first married Elizabeth Runyon b. 14 December 1751 of Morris Co., N.J., daughter of Richard and Jane (Van Court) Runyon.  She died ab. 1775 after the birth of their daughter Elizabeth Runyon Carpenter who
married James Wisner son of  John Wisner, Jr. and Mary Thompson of Orange Co. N.Y.
Moses Carpenter married June 26, 1777 Hannah Smith daughter of Henry and Joanna Smith. Their daughters were Susannah m. Michael Redman; Joanna m. Jesse Read, and Abigail m. David Munro.
Moses tombstone in the Elbridge Rural Cemetery reads d. Feb 23, 1829 in the 78th year and Hannah tombstone in the Elbridge Rural Cemeter reads d. Aug. 30, 1838 ae 83 year.
Many of their descendants are also listed in the Elbridge Rural Cemetery.
My line was thru his daughter Elizabeth Runyon (her middle name) Carpenter and James Wisner who apparently went to Onondaga Co. with Moses.  My Wisner line was thru James daughter Eliza Wisner who married Joel Melvin, who was from the Jonathan Melvin family that had come down from Conway, MA to Wayne/Ontario Co. after the Rev. War.

SEE: WEB PAGE:
http://users.itsnet.com/~pauld/cgi-bin/nymnd?query=Carpenter
ORANGE CO, NY: Moses Carpenter, b.1751, son of John and Ruth (Coe) CARPENTER
m.   1st.  Elizabeth Runyon from Morris Co., NJ,
    2 nd. Hannah Smith from Or. Co., NY

E-MAIL:
From: "Terry Carpenter"
To:
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 3:07 AM
Subject: Carpenter Marriages from Goshen, Orange Co. NY Presbyterian Church 1777
> These are probably in DAR records, posting them
> here for the list archives.  From the Washington
> Post issue of 20 May 1934 p. A8:
>
> "Genealogists Trace Families By Marriages / Old
> New York Records Industriously Copied by D.A.R. /
> The following marriages were recorded on the
> register of the Presbyterian Church at Goshen,
> Orange County, N.Y., and were copied for the
> Daughters of the American Revolution Magazine by
> Lila James Roney.
> Jan. 12, 1777 - James Carpenter and Mary Wells
> Jan. 26, 1777 - Moses Carpenter and Hannah Smith
> March 2, 1777 - William Carpenter and Hannah Vail
> March 15, 1777 - Samuel Carpenter and Sarah Smith
> Dec. 28, 1777 - Michael Carpenter and Dolly
> Smith"

E-MAIL: Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 From: Mzzcortezz@aol.com Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] 1811 Will of Isaac Carpenter - Family To: carpenter@rootsweb.com Moses did not die, but moved to Onondaga Co., NY. His will has been published and grave located. He married first Elizabeth Runyon of Morris Co. NJ and had a daughter, Elizabeth Runyon Carpenter who married James Wisner of Orange Co. Married second a Smith from Orange Co. Elizabeth Runyon Carpenter and James Wisner had several children, including my ancestor, Elizabeth who married Joel Melvin, their son, Milan Morrel Melvin was my ancestor. Phoebe in CA


Elizabeth Bunyan Runyon

NAME: Runyon not Bunyan.  She was of NJ.


1407. Susan Carpenter

Number 892 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 154.
She and her husband went west.


414. Benjamin Carpenter

Number 301 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 83
Family on page 153 (#130).  A Farmer.

Will dated 8 Oct. 1804 and proved 24 Nov. 1804.  It it she mentions sons
Benjamin and William, both under age, and daughters Sarah and Susannah,
wife Eunice and a brother John deceased.
The compiler of the CM, Amos B. Carpenter was unable to reconcile dates of
births of children with the date of will and death of Benjamin.

A Patriot who in 1775 signed "The Revolutionary War Pledge" at Goshen, Ornage
county, New York.


Eunice Steward

She died age 90.  She was a sister to Judge Stewart.
NAME:  Stewart in most records but Steward in others.

E-MAIL: From: "frank bradner"
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002.
... Eunice Steward - b. Oct 7, 1762 at Goshen, Orange Co, NY
marr Benjamin Carpenter, son of Benjamin Carpenter on Jan 15, 1781.
Parents of Eunice were John Steward (b. ca 1718 ; d. 1779) and Elizabeth
Bradner (b. ca 1728), both of Goshen, NY. Elizabeth was the dau of Rev
John Bradner & Christian Colville, of Goshen. The Stewards of that time
insisted on substituting a "D" for the original "T" in the name (Stewart).

E-MAIL: From: "Analytix: RobinC"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 7:45 AM
Subject: [CARPENTER] Early Wills; Eunice Stewart
Hello Carpenter Researchers:
I've just discovered a mis-transcribed name in the OCGS "Early
Wills of Orange County."  Abstract of the 1770 will of John Stewart of
Goshen (EWOC volume 1, page 17) names a daughter "Runis Stewart" but
should say "Eunis Stewart."  This is the Eunis (Eunice) Stewart who later
married Benjamin Carpenter (ABC's #301).  That this "Runis" is the same
Eunice is plain (for instance) in "The Descendants of John Stewart" by
Ronald Lee Stewart, Ph.D.
> >         Perhaps many Stewart and Carpenter researchers have already
> > discovered this error, but here is my late discovery of it...just in case
> > some hadn't noticed.
---------------------------------------------------
From: "Analytix: RobinC"
To:
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 8:45 AM
Subject: Benjamin Carpenter & Eunice Stewart
> Hello Feeb:
>          I don't know if I've noticed previously your reference to Eunice
> Steward/Stewart.  I have info from Descendants of John Stewart (1997, by
> Ronald Lee Stewart, Ph.D.), pp27-28, that Eunice(3) of John(2) of John(1)
> was born in Goshen 7 October 1762, and died 1846 in Minisink.  Stewart says
> she married Benjamin Carpenter 15 January 1781.  This Benjamin appears to
> be ABC's Benjamin #301 (of John #74, of John #24).
>
>          Stewart cites SIX children of Benjamin and Eunice Carpenter (two
> of whom are not given in ABC's Carpenter Memorial): William b.1782, Sarah
> b.1784, Gilbert b. c1785, Gabriel b. c1786, Benjamin Jr b.1794, Susannah
> b.1796.  Gilbert and Gabriel are the two not cited by ABC.
>
>          I realize the Stewart info is tangential to your interest, but
> thought you'd be interested in the secondary confirmation (and perhaps a
> few tidbits new to you).
>          Robin


1411. Sarah Carpenter

Number 888 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 153.
Her husband was a farmer and they resided in Middletown, Orange, NY.


1412. Susannah Carpenter

Number 889 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 154.


415. Ens. Solomon Carpenter

Number 366 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 91
It was probably this Solomon, with others, who purchased land for a parsonage
at Warick, NY, paying 450 pounds lawful money of the state of NY, 1779.
Solomon makes an exchange of land with William Finn of Goshen on 25 Mar 1738.
BIRTH: 1712 to 1716 in most records.  See E-MAIL below that lists age at death.
Born about 1716 per the Carpenter Memorial.
An Ensign in the Goshen Colonials in 1738.  A Patriot who signed "The
Revolutionary Pledge" in 1775 in Goshen, New York.  He did Patriotic service in
New York, SEE: DAR PATRIOT INDEX.
WILL: Goshen Libene p. 241, made March 20, 1783, probated July 30, 1794.
Executor Michael Carpenter.  Witnesses: Albert Foster, Henry Conkling, Nehemiah
Carpenter 2nd.  See E-Mail for death date.

E-MAIL: Submitted Tue, 4 Apr 2000 From: Phoebe Cortez at  MzCortez@aol.com.
She cites:   http://www.interment.net/data/us/ny/orange/cemetery_hill.htm .
Cemetery Hill Road Cemetery Middletown, Orange County, New York.
Contributed by Maude Conklin [mec@warwick.net].
Rte 17, to Orange County Fair grounds exit, make left at light, under next
light and make left on Cemetery road.  Large well maintained cemetery on your
right.  Recorded by Maude Conklin.  (partial listing)
Carpenter, Caroline J., w/o Nelson B. Carpenter 125/9/1883 - 56 yrs 2 mos 1 ds
Carpenter, Nehemia, 7/9/1790 - 40 yrs
Carpenter, Solomon, 6/24/1794 - 82 yrs

NOTE: There are two similar or duplicate lines involving the descendants of Solomon Carpenter.  Either the Ensign (RIN 13186) or the Colonel (RIN 4738) - Solomon Carpenter that is.  Notes have been made where duplication has been noted.  Until further research proves which descendants went with which Solomon, I will keep such markers.  JRC 1/2004  Resolved by adjustments and merging. JRC 2/2013 - See below.

From: Gene Zubrinsky
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 4:53 PM
To: John R. Carpenter 2
Cc: John F. Chandler ; Terry Carpenter
Subject: Re: Your Online Descendants Material - a reply

John,

Upon further examination of Seversmith's corrections of his own work, I see that the following passage contains an error:

You have a "Solomon problem": . . .Hannah, Michael, William, Nehemiah, James, and Benjamin (nos. 436–441)—skip a generation; they are actually the children of that Solomon's son Ens. Solomon and the latter's wife, Elinor.  In addition to this last Solomon (b. 1712, d. Goshen 24 June 1791) . . ."

Seversmith originally gave the date of death of Ens. Solomon6 Carpenter (Solomon5, John4, John3, William2 of Rehoboth) as 1722 (2:540).  That this is a typo—he had a wife and children—is confirmed in the Supplemental Information section of the same volume, where the author says the following: "Solomon, born in 1712, died 24 June 1791 (not 1722), aged 82 years, and was buried at Phillipsburgh.  His will, dated 30 September 1779, was proved 20 March 1783 (Liber A, p. 24 of Wills, filed at Goshen, New York)" (2:1011).  Then, in the Supplemental Information section of a subsequent volume, Seversmith says (about the previous correction), "Delete the date of death" (4:2048).  Find A Grave, however, lists a Solomon Carpenter as buried in Wallkill Cemetery, Pillipsburgh; an accompanying photograph of the gravestone indicates that he "departed this life June 24th 1794 in the 82nd year of his age" (Solomon Carpenter (1712 - 1794) - Find A Grave Memorial).  He was thus not 82 but 81 and born about 1713.  Who, then, is the Solomon Carpenter depicted in the aforementioned probate record, and which of these two men was the son of Solomon5?

The Solomon thought to have been the son of Solomon5, incidentally, was an Ensign at Goshen in 1738, not a Lt. Colonel.

Gene


Eleanor Dunning?

NAME: Per will name was Elinor not Hannah. Maiden name believed to be Dunning.


1413. Hannah Carpenter

Number 304 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 84


John Wood

He was a major in the Revolutionary war.  He was taken prisoner by the indians
and suffered very much.


416. Anthony Carpenter

Number 367 in the Carpenter Memorial.  Page 91
Family on page 166 (#160)  A weaver.
Daughter Helena was a minor in 1760 and Seth Benedict was appointed guardian.  She was under 4 years of age in 1762.  Children Anthony and Elizabeth were also minors, and Arthur Rogers was appointed guardian.
The court of New Haven, 4 July 1760, states that Anthony Carpenter late of New Haven did guarantee to Abigail, his widow a bond of 1,000 pounds surety.
Anthony had land deeded to him by his father, Solomon, on 8 May 1746 but not recorded until 3 May 1749.  In these deeds he called a Weaver.

GRAVE:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=8644105
Anthony Carpenter
Birth: 1721 Death: Jun. 29, 1760
Inscription:
Here Lies the Body
of Mr. ANTHONY
~CARPENTER~
who died June 29th
AD 1760 in the
39th year of his
Age.
Burial:
Grove Street Cemetery
New Haven
New Haven County
Connecticut, USA
Plot: Buried in the Green -- tombstone along the West Wall.
Created by: Nareen, et al
Record added: Apr 16, 2004
Find A Grave Memorial# 8644105


Abigail Willis

NAME: Last Name believed to be WILLIS.

GRAVE:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=8644148
Abigail Carpenter
Birth: 1727 Death: Jul. 23, 1760
According to "Inscriptions on Tombstones erected prior to 1800," this is Abigail.
Inscription:
Here lies the Body
of ______ the
wife of Mr ANTHONY
~CARPENTER~
who died July
23d A.D. 1760
Aged 33 years.
Burial:
Grove Street Cemetery
New Haven
New Haven County
Connecticut, USA
Plot: Buried in the Green -- tombstone along the West Wall
Created by: Nareen, et al
Record added: Apr 16, 2004
Find A Grave Memorial# 8644148
NOTE:  Where the stone has been damaged, you can still see the last letters of her name. "____ail"


1420. Elizabeth Carpenter

Number 1043 in the CM.


Nathaniel Rogers

Per the Carpenter Memorial page 166 under number 1043.
Nathaniel was the only son of Nathaniel and Dorothy (Sherman) Rogers, and was born 9 days after his father died.
He graduated at Harvard. He was stigmatized as a Tory in the time of the Revolution.  At the close of the war he became a member of the Legislature.  He continued as a Senator or councilor until appointed by President Washington as Marshall of the State of New Hampshire.  He was appointed by President Adams to the office of supervisor of the Revenue of the state of New Hampshire and held it until the office was abolished by President Jefferson.  He was afterwards a Judge of probate for Rockingham county, NH.
Married in Boston, MA.. They had 12 children.


1421. Mary Carpenter

Number 1044 in the CM.  Not living in 1762.


1422. Helena Carpenter

Number 1041 in the CM.
Less than 4 years old in 1762!  See father's notes.