Descendants of William Carpenter of Rehoboth, Plymouth Colony, now part of Bristol County, MA

Notes


22344. John Carpenter

DEAT PLAC ,Fayette, TN or Marshall , MS

BURI DATE BFRE JUNE COURT

1840census between 20-30


Martha "Patsy" Parker

BIRT DATE CA 1814


27891. Henry Lawrence Carpenter

Killed by slave with an axe at wood pile. From ,Fayette, June term 1847 minutes
of Circuit Court.


22346. James Carpenter

BIRT DATE CA 1814


Levina Ceena Simma

BIRTH: Maybe in NC.


22347. Shelby Carpenter

BIRT DATE CA 1815
DEAT SOUR B.W. Simpson bible


Mariah Woodruff

B.W. Simpson Bible


27904. Wilson W. Carpenter

Per G. Murray.


27906. Robert W. Carpenter

Per G. Murray.


22349. William "Doc" Carpenter

Living at 1900 census


27909. Atlas Carpenter

1880 census - Atlas "Hap" Carpenter


27914. Ellen Carpenter

a maybe - shown in 1880 census


27916. Mattie Carpenter

a maybe - shown in 1880 census


22350. Allen Carpenter

BURI PLAC Rehebeth M.B. Church

Allen Carpenter

Civil War veteran - On 07/29/1861 in Stanley , NC enlisted as private.
from American Civil War Research Database, Soldiers from Ancestry.com 12/28/99.
** See file - from Divission of Archives - shows Company D-Twenty Eigth
Regiment -Infantry.

From the Stanly  Herald - 07/17/1923

Old Veteran 80 Years Old Run Down by Auto, Sunday

A most deplorable accident happened on Sunday afternoon near the Efird Graded
Scholl building in West Ablemarle when an auotmobile driven by Miss Mary
Milton, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. D. Milton of Eastern Stanly, ran down Mr Allen
Carpenter of this
place, an old Confederate Veteran about eighty years old, inflicting injuries
which resulted in his death shortly after noon today. Medical aid was summoned
as quickly as possible after the accident and everything possible was done for
thinjured man's
relief. One of his legs was completely crushed and one arm sustained a badly
shattered bone. Mr Carpenter was also injured internally aand sustained several
bad bruises about his face. From the beginning Dr. C.M.Lentz who attended Mr.
Carpenter, held
out very little encouragement for his recovery but the olf veteran was a better
fighter in his last fight than his physician expected, holding ht "Grim Reaper"
at bay for nearly 48 hours before the end came.

Just how the accident happened no one seems to be able to tell. Another young
lady was riding with Miss Morton at the time of the occurence and it is
understood that they both claim the deplorable crash was entirely unavoidable.
Near the point where
the deplorable crash came the street which is the one used for main travel from
Albemarle to Saulsbury, is intersected by another street running dowwn from in
front of Efird Graded School and the embankment is so high that travelers on
either of these
streets cannot see cars on the other until within a very few feet of each other.
It is reported however, that witnesses will be produced  tending to show some
degree of recklessness of the driver of the automobile on this occasion. At any
rate circumstances are such as to lead the officers of the law to give the
matter a thorough
investigation. A warrant has been issued against Miss Morton and she has been
placed under bond of $1,000 which, since the death of Mr. Carpenter, will
possibly be increased to a larger amount. She will be given a preliminary
hearing possibly one day
this week. The young lady will no doubt be required to defend herself against a
charge of manslaughter.

As we go to press no arrangements have been made as to the funeral servives,
which will probably be held sometime tomorrow.


Cornelia Ann Henry

BURI PLAC Rreheboth Methodist Church Cemetary


27918. Reuben Henry

BURI PLAC St. Martin's Lutheran Ch. Cem.


27920. Simeon Carpenter

DEAT DATE DIED YOUNG. No other record.


27923. Nancy Lou Carpenter

BURI PLAC Locust Preb. Church Cemetary


Daisy Poplin

Per G. Murray.


27926. Viney C. Brown

Per G. Murray.


27927. Permella Brown

Per G. Murray.


22356. Thomas J. Carpenter

EMAIL:
From: Donna Cuzze
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 11:14 PM
To: John R. Carpenter 2
Subject: Re: Limestone Carps #1
First thing I see is this error:
4) Albert L. Carpenter-73496 of
Allen Richardson Carpenter-73481 of
Thomas J. Carpenter-73418 of
Simeon Carpenter-73148 of
John Carpenter-5351 b. abt 1764 Nash, NC M. abt 1790 , Greene, AL ****d. 1824 Newman,, GA*** Spouses: Elizabeth UpChurch, Mary ? and Mary Lee ?. AND way to many children!!! of Thomas “Jack” Carpenter-5337 b. 1740 Botetourt, VA d. 6 Aug 1803 ,, NC - See Group 13.

This line was supposed to be members of Group 2, but ...
Genetically tested descendants of Thomas "Jack" Carpenter-5337 are in Group 13 and Group 16. We do not know if this was an adoption situation or what. This line went from VA through Nash County, NC, to Greene County, AL (some alternating between NC & AL and one dying in Newman, GA - note this last one wrong - see below)) then Albert born in LA before winding up in TX.
Someone got that all messed up. This was one of those "somebody said" and everyone copied it, including me at one point. However, now we know the John who died 1824 in Newman, COWETA, GA was John Carpenter the son of Abigail Jordan. He was definitely not the John of NC. Anson Co NC had both an Allen & a Thomas Carpenter listed in 1840 Anson Co but that Thomas was still there in 1860.

There was also a Thomas Carpenter in Wake Co NC in 1840 that was of right age to be Allen's father. Some folks on Ancestry show Simeon of Franklin Co NC as his father but no one has any sources. Thomas was in Sumter Co AL by 1850 where Allen b.1832 is in household. Then Allen is found in MS then LA with son Albert. Then Albert is found in Limestone. So, the latter part was pretty simple to piece together.

Here is what I show for the Greene Co AL Carpenters (Sumter is next to Greene, Montgomery & Washington. BLM shows no old deeds for Carpenters in Sumter):

1. Jubal, Benjamin & Churchwell Carpenters "all" deeded Greene Co in 1823. Records show them born in NC.
2. John Carpenter deeded land in Greene Co in 1828 & 1831 which is hard to do if he died in 1824. He is said to have married Elizabeth Upchurch.
John is said to be older than the other 3 and presumably their father.
John is said to be the son of Thomas Jack Carpenter. This info from others, I've not researched it.
3. Thomas Jack Carpenter d.circa 1803 in Nash Co NC.
4. I found the following land patents for Carpenters in 1830s Greene Co AL:
SIMEON (1830 1837) THOMAS (1834 1837) BENJAMIN (1835) CHURCHWELL M. (1832 1833)
FURNEY L. (1833 1834) JOHN R. (1834) JOHN (1831 1837) JUBAL Jubill? (1837)
KENNITH (1837) PHILLIP (1837) LEE (1834) LEROY (1837)
and SHADRACH (1834)

Thomas Carpenter (1811 or Feb 1908) might be the one listed in the 1830 Greene Co AL census (of right age with a wife and one young daughter). His son Allen stated he was born in AL so Thomas had to be there by 1832.

The Thomas in question (1811 - Feb 1809) was in Sumter in 1850 with Allen in hshold and then still in Sumter Co in 1860 and Allen was not (Allen was in Lauderdale MS). So it is very possible that Allen (1832) 's father Thomas (1811) was of the Greene Co Carpenter line. But if Thomas's father was John of Greene Co, his father did not die in 1824 GA. John of Greene Co was alive in the 1830 census, age 60-69.
Donna

MORE:
Re: Albert L. Carpenter c.1878 LA to Limestone
If you want a descendant of Albert, you might try contacting the owner of this tree:

The screen name is jackiepassey40 and has lots of family details.
However, I don't think this person is related to Group 16. As noted in my previous email, I think Albert descends from the Greene Co AL Carpenters who were all from NC.
Donna

MARRIAGE:
North Carolina, Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868
Groom: Thomas Carpenter
Bride: Jane Richardson
Bond date: 12 Sep 1831
Bond #: 000047016
Level Info: North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868
ImageNum: 006723
County: Franklin
Record #: 02 029
Bondsman: Willie X Chamle
Witness: S Patterson
Source Information:
Ancestry.com. North Carolina, Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000.
Original data: State of North Carolina. An Index to Marriage Bonds Filed in the North Carolina State Archives. Raleigh, NC, USA: North Carolina Division of Archives and History, 1977.

CENSUS: 1850 US Census - See image: RIN 73418 Thomas Carpenter 1850.jpg
1850 United States Federal Census
Name: Thomas Carpenter
Age: 39
Birth Year: abt 1811
Birthplace: North Carolina
Home in 1850: Warsaw, Sumter, Alabama
Gender: Male
Family Number: 1120
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Carpenter 39
Jane Carpenter 34
Allen Carpenter 19
Lucinda Carpenter 16
George Carpenter 13
Sarah Carpenter 11
James Carpenter 6
Jefferson Carpenter 4
Virginia Carpenter 1
Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: Warsaw, Sumter, Alabama; Roll: M432_15; Page: 329A; Image: 148.

CENSUS: 1860 US Census - See image: RIN 73418 Thomas Carpenter 1860.jpg
1860 United States Federal Census
Name: Thomas Carpenter
Age in 1860: 51
Birth Year: abt 1809
Birthplace: North Carolina
Home in 1860: Northern Division, Sumter, Alabama
Gender: Male
Post Office: Warsaw
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Carpenter 51
Jane Carpenter 44
G W Carpenter 23
James Carpenter 17
Gennie Carpenter 11
Priscilla Carpenter 9
Theodore Carpenter 15
Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: Northern Division, Sumter, Alabama; Roll: M653_24; Page: 569; Image: 108; Family History Library Film: 803024.


Jane Richardson

executor to Thomas' estate after his death in 1860.


27929. Lucinda Carpenter

Line 5702
 BIRT DATE CA 1834


27930. George W. Carpenter

Line 5708
 BIRT DATE CA 1837


27931. Louisa Carpenter

Resided in Lauderdale , MS.


27932. Sarah Carpenter

Line 5714
 BIRT DATE CA 1839


27933. William H. Carpenter

Line 5435
 BURI PLAC Pleasant Hill Cem., Greene , AL


27934. James M. Carpenter

Line 5728
 BIRT DATE CA 1843

resided w/ brother Allen in Cameron Parris, LA at time of 1870 census.
unmarried, nothing further.


27935. Jefferson Carpenter

Line 5736
 BIRT DATE CA 1846


27936. Virginia Carpenter

Line 5742
 BIRT DATE CA 1850


27937. Priscella Carpenter

Line 5748
 BIRT DATE CA 1853


27938. Christopher Columbus Carpenter

Line 5446
 BURI PLAC Pleasant Hill Cem., Greene  ,AL


22357. Furney Lee Carpenter

Resided in Chickasaw , MS in 1850.


22358. Rawena Carpenter

Most likely died from childbirth.


27945. 1 Brasfield

NAME: Infant son.


27950. 6 Brasfield

NAME: Infant son.