Descendants of William Carpenter of Providence (Pawtuxet section, now in Cranston), Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, now part of Providence County, RI

Notes


Halsey M. Tillinghast

Resided in Coventry, ,CT

CENSUS: 1880 United States Census
Household:
Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
Halsey M. TILLINGHAST   Self   M   Male   W   26   RI   Farmer   RI   RI
Evelyn F. TILLINGHAST   Wife   M   Female   W   24   RI   Keeping House   RI   RI
Susan A. TILLINGHAST   Dau   S   Female   W   4   RI   At Home   RI   RI
Nellie TILLINGHAST   Dau   S   Female   W   2   RI   At Home   RI   RI
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Source Information:
 Census Place West Greenwich, Kent, Rhode Island
 Family History Library Film   1255209
 NA Film Number   T9-1209
 Page Number   199D


6017. Job S. or Job L. Carpenter

P.O. address, Summit, RI
NAME:  Job S. in AF and Job L. in 1880 US Census.


6052. Amos L. Carpenter

NOTES: From Barbara Martin:
OK, I did say I had something else on Timothy's son, Amos L. I had forgotten that I had found a slight possibility of a connection. The last census and for that matter, the last record I found for him was the 1880 census. Here, from my database notes:
1880 census: Keokuk, Lee, Iowa, HH#190
Amos Carpenter, age 30, Oil business, b. Ohio
Nellie, wife, age 24, keeping house, b. Ohio, both parents Scotland
Flora, 1, daughter, b. Illinois
Flora Frazer, age 50, mother, b. Scotland
Bridget Lacy, age 22, servant, b. Iowa, both parents Ireland
After that, no more Amos L. Carpenter b. in 1820. In 1900, I found his ex-wife, divorced and professing to having had only one child, and she and the daughter living with his wife's mother. Where was Amos?
1900 census: South Township, Chicgo, Cook, Illinois, p. 112, HH#3226
Flora Fraser, head, May 1829, age 71, wd., mother of 4, 1 living, b. in Scotland as were both parents, immigrated 1850
Nellie F. Carpenter, daughter, Mar 1856, 44, div. 1 child, b. Ohio, both parents Scotland
Flora M. Carpenter, G. daughter, Sept 1878, 21, b. Illinois, both parents Ohio
Here's where it gets tricky. I found the following Amos F. in 1900 and 1910. This person sports an F. middle initial, and is 10 years younger than our son of Timothy, but note his occupation and compare it to above. Also note he has male children. However, he says he has been married just 2 times, and this wife says she has had no babies. Nellie. divorced first wife, reported she had had only 1 child. So., this Amos would have had to marry 3 times. So that's 3 strikes against him being Timothy's Amos - the name, the age, the no. of marriages. For those reasons, I've not traced him further. Should I perhaps look more into this? [ ANSWER: NO. THIS AMOS IS FROM ANOTHER LINE. SEE: Amos F. Carpenter-132529  PER JRC]
1900 census: Ames twp., Athens Co., Ohio, HH#152
Amos F. Carpenter, b. Feb. 1860, age 40, b. Ohio as were both parents, Contrator of oil wells, could r&w, renting house, newly married
Lillian R., wife, b. Octo 1859, age 40, had not had any children, b. Ohio as werre both parents, could r&W
Bertha, daughter, May 1887, age 13, b. Ohio as were both parents, at school
Lena, daughter, Dec 1892, age 7, ditto
Thomas E., Feb 1890, age 10, ditto
Charles, Nov 1895, age 4, ditto
(These children were not born to Lillian, so this Amos had been previously married. Our Amos’s first wife was Nellie, and she is listed in 1900 in Chicago, divorced, living with her mother. If this is our Amos, he has married for the third time).
1910 census: Wesley twp., Washington Co., Ohio, HH# 96
Amos F. Carpenter, age 50, m. 2, presently 11 years, b. Ohio as were both parents, farmer, mortgage farm
Lilliam R., 50, m1, never gave birth
Edward T. age 19, teacher-common schools
Lenna, age 18, home
Chares, 16, farm laborer


6053. Van Rensselaer Carpenter

MARRIAGE: Married twice.  First before 1910, but no information available.
!NAME: Was his first name Van or Steven?

CENSUS: 1880 US Census - with parents - see father's notes.
Name: Van R. Carpenter
Residence: Piqua, Miami, Ohio
Birthdate: 1862
Birthplace: Ohio, United States
Relationship to Head: Son
Spouse's Name:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Father's Name: Stephen V.R. Carpenter
Father's Birthplace: Ohio, United States
Mother's Name: Naomi J. Carpenter
Mother's Birthplace: Ohio, United States
Race or Color (Expanded): White
Ethnicity (Standardized): American
Gender: Male
Martial Status: Single
Age (Expanded): 18 years
Occupation: At Home
NARA Film Number: T9-1049
Page: 288
Page Character: A
Entry Number: 1823
Film number: 1255049
Collection: United States Census, 1880

CENSUS: 1880 US Census
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
van R. CARPENTER Self S Male W 21 OH Mining OH OH
Charls H. MILLER Other M Male W 36 IN Mining IN IN
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Source Information:
Census Place Silver Cliff, Custer, Colorado
Family History Library Film 1254089
NA Film Number T9-0089
Page Number 311D


From: Barbara C. Martin
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 1:51 PM
To: Barbara C. Martin
Subject: Carpenter history
Hey, Carpenter Family,
I've made a find concerning our Grandpa Van R. Carpenter that I'm excited about. It provides partial answers to at least two questions that I've had: We know that our grandfather was away from his family for about 20 years, from about early 1880 to about 1900. Where did he first go? Then, Aunt Hattie told us in one of her articles (I report it on p. 37 of my Carpenter book: "My father, who had been a very wealthy man, had been sick two or three years when he died and his affairs were in a dreadful state. In our attic we had a box of stock that wasn’t worth a cent. Mother said once we could paper our house with it."") That was late 1899. So, what kind of stock did he hold and then lose?
I had found Grandpa Van listed in the 1880 census, fresh out of high school, still living in the household with his parents, Stephen and Naomi. They were not in Columbus, Ohio where their home was, but Piqua, Miami Co., Ohio and G-Gp Stephen was "in silver mining". Later, they moved back to Columbus.
Well, here goes my newest discovery: Thanks to a new search engine, I have found Grandpa Van in another place also in 1880, perhaps a quick move from the family, in Silver Cliff, Colorado. When I looked for him on the census there, I was amazed that everybody listed were from other states, and 90% of them were engaged in prospecting or mining. Van was in the mining group and living on Main Street, perhaps a hotel. He also returned to Columbus for awhile after that.
It would appear, then, that great-gp Stephen had somehow lined up with the mining company in Silver Cliff, and had sent gp Van out there, perhaps to represent him? That's answer #1, and while Stephen had invested heavily in the company, in time it went bankrupt and his stock became worthless. That's answer #2
Of course, that find meant I had to learn about silver mining in Silver Cliff, Custer Co, Colorado. You can google those words and learn all you want to about the town, even the mysterious lights in the cemetery. This is a gist of it:
Silver Cliff was a famous silver-mining camp in central Custer County. The silver strike here was so rich that the population boomed and
Silver Cliff became the third largest town in Colorado Territory (after Denver and Leadville) for a while. Around the time of statehood, the
politicos even entertained the idea of making Silver Cliff the state capitol. Silver Cliff took the county seat from Rosita in 1886 but lost it to
Westcliffe in 1928.
This was a rough and rowdy town in those early days. The big mine was the Silver Cliff Mine, later known as the Geyser Mine. The mine
might have been profitable except for the actions of certain East Coast stock manipulators. Shares in the mine were first promoted and
sold by a James R. Keene of New York. Keene was reasonably famous as a scam operator and he took the company into bankruptcy
within a few years. Then the property was sold to the Julianna Mining Company, run by a Dr. Richard C. Flower of Boston. Flower was even
more unscrupulous in his stock promotions and sales and he also took the company into bankruptcy, in 1888. Shareholders then rescued
the company and renamed it the Geyser Mining Company, but the primary operators were more of Flower's cronies. In the end, the mine
never turned an official profit. At one time, though, it was the deepest mine in the state of Colorado.

Another source:
The Geyser Mine started the silver mining rush of Silver Cliff. Mining started in July of 1877 and continued for 23 years until July 1900. The Geyser Mine is located Northeast of the Silver Cliff Museum. (Note how that time period compares with Van's presence there and the death of his father in 1899).
If you are interested at all in this little town that was a part of our family history for awhile, and then a great part in our financial history, you might want to explore these sites:



www.sangre-de-cristo.com
www.custercountyco.com/index.htm
www.colorado.com/SilverCliff.aspx